Top 5 Quick Bans in OU History

[@joaomacedo5849]

Flutter mane and houndstone were so ridiculous that despite being in OU for 3 days, they were still the most used mons of the entire month

[@TheSteakJustice]

Flutter Mane was like #1 but wasn't Houndstone somewhere in the lower 10-upper 20s?

[@Iris_Descent]

Yeah, it was Mane and Palafin instead. Which is still crazy, lol.

[@StandardSkilledCamp]

houndstone was 18th flutter mane was #1 tho

[@kkrstudios]

Houndstone was or is not ridiculous. He got banned because of its signature move Last Respect. They already stated that they debated over whether to ban just the move because no one can learn the move beside Houndstone. But once home and PLA mons hit the meta, it will be brought back as Basculegion can also learn the move. So most likely they will only ban the move instead of the pokemon

[@MacZephyrZ]

@@kkrstudios Well if we're going to be splitting hairs its "Houndstone is rediculous, but only because of Last Respects". The move is a part of what makes a pokemon. Kygore wouldn't be the beast it is if it only learned Water Gun. I still agree that Last Respects, not Houndstone itself, should have been banned though.

[@ctnc6059]

The quickest ban in UU, and probably in all of competitive Pokemon, was Sun/Moon Gyarados. When the month's usage stats revealed Gyarados and Mega Gyarados they'd drop to UU there was total chaos... for 6 Hours. Which wasn't even enough time for the tiers to get updated.

[@rozisroses1351]

slurpuff lasted 14 minutes in home NU last gen (it's technically cheating because slurpuff only dropped because belly drum was unreleased and then mid feburary home dropped but NU wasn't allowed to quickban it because alpha tiers can't ban anything)

[@kerosblue5609]

Hoopa U lasted like 2

[@abarette_]

gee it's almost as if usage-based tiering is garbage

[@flerpaderp4397]

@@abarette_ What’s your suggestion for tiering then?

[@abarette_]

@@flerpaderp4397 huh maybe the, albeit slow, approach of suspect tests for everything tier shifts just feel kind of random at times, as they don't take into account what role the mon has

[@seanoodles7008]

I remember the panic the ensued when we realized that kyurem-B would be getting dragon dance. Did not get a single day in OU

[@kevinflynn4649]

All fun and games until Kyurem finally takes dance classes

[@nomongosinthaworld]

Yes it was in OU for about a week and it was cancer lol.

[@bdt2002gaming]

The bigger problems with buffed Kyurem-Black imo were Heavy-Duty Boots and the addition of Icicle Spear as a physical Ice-Type STAB, since no one was ever going to be using Freeze Shock in OU.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@bdt2002gaming That's all it was going to take. It's base stats alone are clearly Uber and before it got Dragon Dance and Icicle Spear, it was held back by it's relatively barren movepool (no proper Physical Ice STAB).

[@kingwailord4143]

When ORAS came out, the new tier PU had pokemon like lopunny and bedrill that received new mega evolutions. At the time, the tier was full of pokemon that were not even fully evolved; having just 90 attack was considered godlike. Then out of nowhere, mega pokemon got introduced. It took mere hours for the megas to be quick banned and they would all go on to be great pokemon in competitive tiers; Mega Lopunny for example manged to be the best mega in OU on a few occasions, even if it was just for a while and it was once in PU.

[@silverrey7379]

Also, you forgot to mention that Mega-Metagross was allowed in RU while this happened. Pretty hillarious if you ask me

[@madysonandres9571]

ALSO Mega Camerupt only got out of PU because there wasn’t enough time to test it in PU, thus moving up to NU.

[@grandmastr2602]

Yes we all saw that false swipe video

[@cheryl9809]

Did all megas initially start out in the same tier as their non mega forms and then get quick banned hours later??

[@silverrey7379]

@@cheryl9809 yup

[@FirstLastname604]

I love how for Palafin, the OU community turned the superhero pokemon into their own nefarious supervillain, dubbing it "Nifalap" and celebrated it's departure

[@ThePeasantRock16]

GEEEZ Maybe is because game freak give in every new gen like almost 70% of the new pokemon not only strong moves but also ridiculous stats? Like come on son

[@ATK1734]

That would be a great idea for a branch evolution: Palafin as Hero mode and Nifalap as Villain mode.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

My brain autocorrected this as “Nippleflap” and I’m just gonna call it that now.

[@ojutay8375]

@@ATK1734 have you seen it's Shiny. It's all Black

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

FLIPYAP THE GRUNTY DESTROYE- oh wrong game series

[@beanburrito4405]

If we’re including UU, Espathra was recently banned 38 minutes after the tier entered Beta and bans became possible

[@N12015]

Same for Hydreigon btw.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

We live in a society where a Delibird form got banned from OU

[@MGlBlaze]

The distant future in the Pokemon world must be goddamn terrifying

[@alesguer8651]

Imagine a mechanical Sunflora rampaging through a futuristic wasteland...

[@midend]

Unless you're a ttar form....

[@shawnli4746]

Now here I thought iron bundle and flutter mane were just abilities. Nope, they're just the official names of "Paldean Delibird" and "Paldean Misdreavus" designed with added swag.

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@MGlBlaze Can’t wait to see a future where pre-transformed Ditto is actually viable on its own 😂

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

Fluttermane is like Gamefreak thought to themselves "How can we re-create gen 1 Alakazam, but make it even better?"

[@CoralReaper707]

That is a perfect comparison tbh

[@CannonBallistic]

gen 1 alakazam could at least be run as a twave support mon flutter mane is more like gen 1 mewtwo but replacing amnesia stat boosts with being insanely fast

[@Hyperneosonic97]

To quote Smogon themselves: "It was the night after Thanksgiving, and all was well... but then robot Santa came and brought OU hell."

[@itookthewooockkk5200]

Lol

[@RandalfElVikingo]

They are always salty haha

[@edgyanole9705]

They tried to put as many pun in there as possible

[@grunkleg.2934]

Fitting for its blistering fast base 200 Speed, Regieleki just now set the record for fastest quickban, lasting a bit more than a day in OU. May it BoltBeam in hell

[@skylarfox_bmb]

ubers any%

[@djroscurro9859]

​@@skylarfox_bmbWR baby

[@BlueWolfZero]

Not only that, the ban was unanimous.

[@notapear]

Gen 9 Ubers any% no major glitches world record holder. *Tera gets banned* Drops to UU.

[@user-mr8qe9yt1l]

It didn't have boltbeam tho.....literally learned only normal and electric moves

[@TheBeastJohn]

Never in my life would I ever have thought that Delibird would ever have been so good that it had to have been quick banned. I wish I could go back in time and tell my 8 year old self playing Crystal and see the reaction, a Mon I thought only learned “Present”

[@GravityIsFalling]

Never in your life you thought that a Pokémon with 570, well optimized BST and perfect coverage would be banned?

[@1deeman2]

@@GravityIsFalling the fact it's Drlibird that got optimized to be monstrous

[@GravityIsFalling]

@@1deeman2 So your surprised that a Pokémon who desperately needed some love and attention…got some love and attention

[@1deeman2]

@@GravityIsFalling I expected an evo not a god

[@JustCallTre]

Just ignore ‘em. They’re purposely trying to be a condescending douche.

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

I have my doubts that Houndstone will remain banned. Not because Last Respects + Sand Rush isn't broken, but because Basculegion is coded to be able to have the move when HOME lets it into SV, and he's a better user of it than Houndstone in every way. As such, I suspect that they'll unban Houndstone and ban the move Last Respects itself, as it'll no longer be limited to a single Pokemon.

[@Rarest26]

Oh absolutely. Baculegion makes Houndstone look like a UU mon.

[@bulborb8756]

plus basculegion will be a pretty strong swimmer with male having a strong option in Wave Crash, while the female has Hydro Pump

[@598019001]

100%, as soon as last respects is on anything else, the move will be eating the ban and houndstone will come back. Until then, Houndstone can enjoy the scorn/Praise that comes from being broken enough for force one of the fastest quick bans ever in what seems to be one of the most power creep heavy generations ever.

[@heatran5717]

People were saying that about rising voltage koko and expanding force lele last gen though,they could just make basculegion not get last respects at the last second

[@breloommaster12]

The thing is that in order to ban Last Respects, it needs to be broken on the NFE Basculin-White-Striped as well. If Basculin-W is unable to be busted with Last Respects, they cannot get the go ahead to ban the move, which means both Houndstone and Basculegion may end up banned instead.

[@radjetpack631]

There's just something really interestingly scary about a strategy based around playing a 1v6 w Houndstone AND STILL WINNING

[@Pikacrew1]

Basculigion is going to be a 1-day ban. We all know that swift swim last respect is going to be ridiculous. I hope it can make history.

[@JustCallTre]

No, at that point they’ll ban the move. They made a post talking about it when Houndstone was banned

[@1tsJustKetchup]

adaptability + tera ghost + last respects for out of rain too

[@joekewl7539]

Swift Swim Choice Band Last Respects GG, shake my hand

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

@@JustCallTreThen they should have just banned the move and save the headache.

[@ink3487]

It also gets agility

[@SYKim_94]

Quick bans are the epitome of “well that escalated quickly”

[@Wings_Of_Nightfall]

Think it'd only get as far as "well tha"

[@ryans8081]

More like "Well that's gg already" like you see on Temp6t's compilations.

[@eagletgriff]

@@ryans8081 temp6t is cringe.

[@michaelchristie8329]

Really enjoying these list/explanation videos lately. It’s like a lightning round of ‘How X was Y Actually?’

[@Gyaradosage]

Is it weird the these videos remind me of the “The Most Extreme” videos of old animal planet? Like yesssss, show me the ridiculously broken Pokémon and why they’re so broken.

[@Gironeon]

I’ll never forget the day Mega Salamence was revealed people were talking about how it would be banned to Ubers on day 1 and sure enough, it did 😂

[@megatennepster3833]

And then Mega garchomp was the opposite

[@TraumaCenter13]

I said the same thing about Mega-Kangaskhan when it made its debut. When I read its Parental Bond ability, I knew it was going to get banned eventually.

[@bdt2002gaming]

Mega Salamence kind of feels like Mega Rayquaza in many ways. Flying-Type Double Edge is sort of like having Dragon Ascent, and base Salamence even gets to keep its five points higher base Speed over base Rayquaza after Mega Evolution.

[@M3rtyville]

Mega Salamence was going to be broken the moment it's design was revealed. If it got a speed buff and an attack buff, it is immediate Uber Material. But not only that happened, it got a build in Life Orb to Flying Stab. All it's normal moves became Flying Type and there are a lot of powerful and useful normal moves.

[@Erokingu]

@@M3rtyville it was suspect test from the Cororcoro magazin and this video this video choc me that it wasn't quickban with datamining. A single move can make Salamence Uber and Game Freak give it a Mega and you still have a doubt ? mindbogling !!!

[@t-1156]

When Game Freak showcased Houndstone's pre evolution with a teaser that ends with the death of the PoV character, it was actually downright prophetic

[@aSh-pi1in]

While 300 BP is the most Common base Power for Last Respects, Last Respects BP and Boosted by the amount of times your team fainted, so if someone used revival blessing (or just a revive in game) it can go as High as 5050 BP

[@grandangus5285]

It caps at 350 bp luckily

[@peepoweird]

@@grandangus5285 nah it goes up to 5050

[@alejandrobernard3828]

@@grandangus5285 Rage Fist is the move that caps out at 350 BP.

[@danielhicks1824]

this makes me wonder if you can recycle liechi berries via exeggutor in doubles or something for infinite revival blessings

[@dorkfish1275]

@@alejandrobernard3828 hate to burst your bubble but last respects caps at 350 too if you have revival blessing, since that can only be used once, maybe 400 if you have both pokemon that can learn it, last respects is technically nerfed because to get to 5050 power, you need to knock out your own pokemon 100 times, which is impossible.

[@pilby457]

It wasn't OU, but the Dunsparce quickban in little cup was glorious. Congratulations to the little guy

[@awesometoadultimate8562]

Fun fact: AI Sada's Flutter Mane has Shadow Ball, but not Moonblast. GF probably knew it would be too hard for most people if it had both.

[@thecod2345]

To be fair, they really should have included it. It has no evs to my knowledge.

[@pooppooper9033]

It also doesn’t have Booster Energy. Also, spoilers.

[@dawgtheundying5303]

Should have had both. The harder the better.

[@nishant9289]

That also explains why in the AI Turo battle does Iron Bundle tries for snowscape turn 1 and sometimes keep abusing it uselessly; it'd be too difficult otherwise.

[@lilylilaha]

That battle was tough as is, but even a little more extra challenge I think would’ve been welcomed

[@whomgod420]

Dunsparce got a quickban from Little Cup at around the same time as Flutter Mane and Houndstone - which is not only insanely fast, but absolutely hilarious given that Dunsparce of all things got a quickban from something.

[@RanserSSF4]

If there is one thing we've learned, is that Gen 9/SV has the most insane power-creep in pokemon history. Never thought I'd see the day its power-creep would overshadow Gen 5.

[@GoTELuckyCharms]

Hey FSG crew, thank you for sticking around so long. Y'all got me into smogon singles and I haven't looked back since gen 7. Y'all are the best

[@donkarasu-9644]

Man, the Paradox Pokemon are strong. The team behind Scarlet/Violet definitely made them solely final boss material in mind.

[@rjante2236]

I agree. In that regard, they are well-designed.

[@baxterbruce9827]

Except Brute Bonnet Edit: Except, even the "bad" ones are (mostly) being compared to an original they don't even play the same as

[@yoshi2398]

The only ban quicker than flutter mane in Smogon history was Shedinja in gen 9 nat dex it took only 1 day to get banned with Cyclizar and terra elec it became an unkillable monster

[@bdt2002gaming]

All that just for Shedinja to still die to Sandstorm or Spikes damage 💀 Edit: If I remember right, aren’t Pokémon holding an Air Balloon immune to entry hazards?

[@tetradyne-5602]

@@bdt2002gaming Heavy Duty Boots prevents entry hazard damage. Air Balloon just makes you have the equiv. of Levitate(Ungrounded)

[@jacksonparker6983]

@@bdt2002gaming they’re immune to the entry hazards the flying type would give them, so they would still be effected by stealth rock if I’m correct. Also I think shedinjas in NatDex ran sunny day or rain dance for the sole purpose of handling weather, since the only other moves you needed were swords dance, leech life, and shadow claw. Really the only thing standing in shedinja’s way was iron barbs/rough skin and rocky helmet.

[@pooppooper9033]

@@bdt2002gaming You’d clear the hazards first, or switch in before they get a chance to set hazards at all (if you think they’re gonna use Stealth Rock, you can use Shed Tail for a free switch in, considering Cyclizar’s Speed). As for Sandstorm damage, you can actually run Sunny Day to catch their Ttar switch-in off guard.

[@Schmoseph]

​@@jacksonparker6983Considering that Charizard and Talonflame are known for being utterly ruined by stealth rock, you are correct.

[@asuuki2048]

12:55 There’s actually an extremely plausible theory that Guzzlord is simply a corrupted Zygarde. I just couldn’t help but mention it when you brought both of them up back to back lol

[@AMVS24]

That's actually a really cool theory

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

JESUS CHRIST, in my 20 years of Pokemon, I never noticed how similar they look

[@asuuki2048]

@@Terrified_Dartanyan Well to be fair, Zygarde is only 9 years old, and Guzzlord is 6 lol (wow time flies…….) But yeah, I personally think that Zygarde became a Guzzlord after it succumbed to the power plant exploding and leaking radiation. It also checks out that Zygarde would be near the power plant during its meltdown, as it is the guardian of the ecosystem. After becoming corrupted, it became the destroyer of the ecosystem, Guzzlord……. Hell, you find Guzzlord & Zygarde in the exact same cave lol. There’s just so much to explain… James Turner, who designed Guzzlord, was asked by a fan if there was any significance to Guzzlord’s heavy resemblance to Zygarde. His response was, “Ah… That’s something I don’t think I can really get into. They do look a lot alike though, huh :)” A theory that I *personally* came up with, is that Guzzlord was going to be a major plot point in the scrapped Pokémon Z game, maybe even a form Zygarde took that Team Flare caused it to mutate into, and you had to “purify” it. Since the game was scrapped, it was then saved for Generation 7, and either: A. Made into a completely separate Pokémon, but the similarities from the original concept were unchanged, causing us to think that the two are the same Pokémon (since that was the original intention). B. Kept the original idea of Guzzlord being a corrupted Zygarde, but tweaked it to not be shoved in our faces, made far more discrete, leading to multiple interpretations. Of course, I’ve no MAJOR proof of it originally being in Pokémon Z, but it still seems plausible I think. GameFreak is known to scrap ideas, only to introduce them later, even if slightly tweaked. We would need for the Beta of Pokémon Z to be leaked, if they even began developing it at all before scrapping it… Still, as sad as it is that the game never saw the light of day, that extra time they got to develop Sun & Moon truly, truly payed off. Please, I can wait a year without a main title coming out, like they did in 2015, the year Pokémon Z would have been released……. It’s why they were able to bring back every Pokémon in Sun & Moon, they actually took a breather for a year.

[@asuuki2048]

@@Terrified_Dartanyan Sorry for the novel ;~;

[@Slaking_]

@@asuuki2048 That's a really cool theory about Guzzlord being scrapped from Z, but I don't think it's true. There isn't much evidence to suggest that GF ever worked on Pokemon Z, which is unfortunate because X/Y felt very unfinished, and Z could've been a banger of a game if it fleshed out the Kalos region.

[@sagacious03]

Man, I forgot how hilarious Zygarde-Complete's bulk was. Just tanks a 4x SE STAB Ice Beam coming off of (only) 103 Sp. Atk. ....Yet there's at least 1 glitch Pokemon in Gen 1 that's higher in EVERY base stat. It makes me wonder just how quickly Glitch Pokemon like that would be banned for their POWER, not their glitchyness, if they were in today's meta. Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@henriquepacheco7473]

Bunch of the glitch pokemon had absolutely unusable learnsets, ignoring of course glitch moves that would just break the game.

[@sagacious03]

@@henriquepacheco7473 Yeah, but many of the glitch Pokemon, even among those with high base stats also had good movesets, even by Gen 1 standards.

[@fennecfoxfanatic]

BigYellow has made a couple of vids on this topic :3. Go check them out!

[@sagacious03]

@@fennecfoxfanatic I did & they were great! Thanks for the recommendation!

[@SemiHypercube]

What were they thinking when they added moves that could surpass the power of _Explosion_ that you could actually spam and wouldn't come with any downside

[@nickmiller8386]

Well...they don't balance for singles, generally. Last Respects in VGC is never hitting above 200bp and it's easily swatted away in doubles

[@lorenzoromito7735]

They were thinking "this move would be fun during the story, and almost irrelevant in VGC, so it's okay". Gamefreak balances the game around VGC, not singles.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@nickmiller8386 In BSS, it would tie with Hyper Beam.

[@SeriousStriker]

It all started with Dracovish's Fishious Rend.

[@Futuristic271]

A lot of people have mentioned VGC but also ranked singles is a 3v3 like the anime

[@ethandavis2373]

Flutter Mane is absolutely ridiculous and I love it. By far one of my favorite OU mons in the first days of SV

[@matigamer329]

Regieleki got banned to Ubers just 1 day after Pokemon HOME was updated, thanks to Terablast. Now it can terastalize into an ice type and decimate ground types.

[@14g0t7]

as well as dragon and grass types

[@cursezero1125]

NEW VIDEO IDEA: "POKEMON THAT YOU DIDNT EXPECT TO BE BANNED" (ex: Wynaut, Linoone, and etc.) ( can be in any tier )

[@silverrey7379]

Wynaut being both in LC and Ubers in gen 4 is amazing (just shows how broken Shadow Tag was)

[@bluebaron6811]

**Diglett has joined the chat.** Yes. Diglett was, for a brief time, banned from B2W2 OU. That was before they just decided to ban Arena Trap.

[@Cat-pv6yx]

Imagine having essentially 170x1.5 base attack stat (zacian crowned) but still be Ubers while a bug with 1 health gets banned to natdex AG the moment where bans were released

[@DerpityDerpz1]

Chatot

[@vannoah]

rayquaza being banned from ubers is still one of the funniest things to ever happen

[@rubenduenas5881]

If Houndstone was banned quickly for Last Respects, I'm genuinely terrified for when Basculegion comes to OU, a pokemon with Swift Swim, faster speed, more attack, and STAB LAST RESPECTS

[@samuka6163]

Then Last Respects gets banned and they unban Houndstone, since there's then evidence that the problem is the move.

[@festafunerea]

11:32 I always knew Zygarde 100% reminded me of something, but I couldn't remember what. It was Perfect Cell all these years and I just noticed now.

[@Eric6761]

And remember he needs to absorb/fuse with certain organisms to get his 100%

[@calmuxie4859]

We have a new record holder, with it even outdoing Marshadow. Congrats Regieleki!

[@justinwiebe8327]

Top 5 Quick Bans in UU: 5: Staraptor (Gen 4) 4: Staraptor (Gen 5) 3: Staraptor (Gen 6) 2: Staraptor (Gen 7) 1: Garchomp (Gen 9)

[@rjante2236]

20 years from now Staraptor will still be banned from UU

[@Metaknighttheloneswordsman]

The birds are strong huh?

[@voltingmaster5458]

BREAKING NEWS: Regileki Dethrones Marshadow As Fastest Pokemon Banned From OU, Banned In Less Than A Day!

[@EricKingOfScots]

And now regieleki has beaten the record being banned in less than a day.

[@andytaker3073]

Houndstone's should have have a second signature move called Tombstoner. Just as a callback from gen 1 in Blaine's gym.

[@ManOfUnknownWorth]

Unfortunately, "Tombstoner" was changed to "Tombstony" in FireRed/LeafGreen and beyond.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

You can get the Tombstoner TM in Pokemon Periwinkle. It has the same TM availability as Dig, which gives a lot of pokemon access to a Rock move. It fits nicely on Charmander, and together with Dragon Rage and Charmustard, make Charmeleon a WAY better pokemon for the midgame Actually a lot of mediocre pokemon in gen 1 get nice moves to propel them a bit, which is good to account for the increased difficulty. Like, Pidgy can actually compete with Spearow thanks to its new move, and there's even new pokemon like Jumpeon, the only Jump type pokemon in the game, and Obamatwo.

[@skeetermania3202]

Gym Leader Matt might like that.

[@kikaioshin6700]

Unfortunately this doesn't really work because the Japanese name for Tombstoner is "Die! Die! Beam", which doesn't really fit Hounstone as well as Tombstoner

[@peterholmes7440]

I’m genuently surprised not to see Marshadow in Gen 7 OU. I’m pretty sure it was quickban after 24 hours only.

[@andrewtan8155]

I remember when Mega Venusaur and Mega Diancie were unleashed into UU in mid-2018 and seeing the collective UU community go into full Defcon 4 and panic mode. Mega DIancie was quickbanned in just under a week I believe because obviously what the hell was the council thinking. It took a bit longer for Mega Venusaur to get get fully tested in the waters it now dominated but it was soon also deemed too broken for UU and banned around 2 weeks after Mega Diancie was. I think it's still considered one of the most WTF moments UU ever experienced.

[@yeet8036]

i still think about how people thought that darkrai,skymin and manaphy would be balanced in gen 5 ou

[@HesGotaGun505]

I really appreciate how you have been explaining how the ou council works

[@webbowser8834]

So my memory may be faulty, but I coulda sworn that Mega Salamence was so hilariously busted, it was banned *before ORAS even came out*. IIRC the tier was playable slightly before release due to dataminers doing their thing, and during that time Megamance was banned. *edit Not OU, but I'll never forget about the time in Gen 6 Lando-I fell down to UU for all of 6 hours... and was summarily quick banned alongside Kyurem Black. Was easily my favorite memory of being part of the Smogon community.

[@doomknightsepulchure]

Now Regieleki has become the fastest quickban in OU, even beating Marshadow

[@shadowgallade]

shoutouts to regieleki breaking that record, only taking 1 day

[@igeomagician]

Palafin felt like Gen 2 snorlax for a moment. Best way to beat it was to chip it and then send out your own

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

In the past we have the Tauros war Now we have the dolphin war

[@emmetstanevich2121]

GSC snorlax is at least slow, so you can always at least hit it before it hits you.

[@usernametaken017]

ok but one is fun to fight against

[@ashketchum13579]

FSG, thanks for so many years of releasing high-quality content for the competitive pokemon scene. Always look forward to new videos!

[@awesometoadultimate8562]

Regieleki just got banned from OU after Home's expansion to SV. It took about 25 hours.

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

12:48 I know its just a Pokémon game, but hearing that legitimately terrifies me

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

Houndstone may have been banned, but he won't be forgotten... Basculegion is coming OU, and in a poetic way, he will take revenge for his ghost comrade

[@bulborb8756]

i'd say mostly male basculegion as his atk stat is 112 compared to the females 92, but this will likely be the same story

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@@bulborb8756 they will both be banned

[@JustCallTre]

No, they won’t. I read the smogon entry to Houndstone. They said they’re only banning Houndstone and not the move because ATM, only Houndstone has the move. They said if “the rumor is true and another Pokémon is getting the move” that they will end up banning the move, what means neither basculegion willl be banned, AND Houndstone will be taken out of Uber.

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@@JustCallTre yeah same thing, I just want to have fun with Basculegion, he seems great on rain with that monstrous 120 HP

[@breloommaster12]

@@JustCallTre there is actually a wrench to this plan for freeing Houndstone, and that is Basculin-White-Striped. A move is only banworthy for being OP if it is broken on ALL of its MULTIPLE users, of which there are currently 4 (Houndstone, Basculegion -Male, Basculegion-Female, Basculin-White-Striped). If even one of those users isn't broken with the move, the move ban reasoning would be lost and the other three users will be banned instead. So I hope, for your sake, that Last Respects is enough to break Basculin-White-Striped as well, and bear in mind that Basculin-White-Striped is not only much frailer, but it also lacks a weather speed-boosting ability like its brethren.

[@route1trainer]

Now Regieleki has been banned from Gen 9 OU in 24 hours lol

[@threadmiser4914]

Scarlet & Violet are the most cracked gen in terms of how wild the variance is. There's plenty of perfectly acceptable pokemon in Paldea, but there's also almost enough insane mons to make an entire team of OU quickbans.

[@raysay1818]

Let's go power creep

[@milessmith2248]

Regieleki getting banned in one day: You wanna see some real speed

[@thatonetrainer5818]

Regieleki: and I took this as a challenge

[@kyyourneutralisminekiske7104]

Who ready for the remake 5 years later where we can see the day 1 Regieleki ban

[@droozyyy]

Regieleki wasn’t satisfied outspeeding everything in battle so it outsped everyone in getting quickbanned

[@lurkerlp]

The craziest thing about this video is that it’s Outdated. After only 5 months. Which shouldn’t have been the case.

[@_puduposting]

Palafin in OU was like that scene from the Powerpuff girls movie, where the girls play tag with some kids and destroy the whole city

[@autismandgaming4532]

The fact that misdreavus is technically the fastest quick-banned pokemon is legendary

[@SomeAsian]

Misdreavus and Deliberd in Ubers while Hydreigon and Tyranitar dropped to UU. Paradox indeed.

[@PlatinumStrife]

Wasn't Marshadow the fastest quick ban with 5-6 h after his release in S/M?

[@dabmonstr7403]

That doesn't count because marshadow was added in the middle of the generation (I think I forgot). If that's the case then mega lopunny would be the quickest ban from pu which was an hour

[@PlatinumStrife]

@@dabmonstr7403 I can see it somewhat but they could have mention it as a honorable mention due to his release date hindering his quick ban because let us be real: it wouldn't have last long (I mean it hasn't lastest long to begin with but at the begining of Gen 7 it just wouldn't).

[@noahtaylor1721]

@@dabmonstr7403Nope, he was in the game from the beginning. He was only legally obtained through a mystery gift in the middle of a generation though.

[@Shinxed]

@@dabmonstr7403 wait mega lopunny was pu?? Wish i could play that even if it was for 1 hour

[@hunbi1875]

​@@dabmonstr7403 uh the title says "In OU"

[@tktyga77]

What about cases for the opposite where the bans ironically improved their viability (like how Shedinja turned out decent in Ubers & VGC despite being abysmal in standard play including OU)?

[@juniorkyle8123]

*regieleki casually blitzing the record*

[@Dusxio]

The Cell edit for Zygarde was perfect XD

[@MTT563]

I love how you can hear him almost crack up a bit when talking about the Memento strategy for Houndstone

[@DespairMagic]

That Zygarde abridged Cell edit was amazing! 😂❤️

[@giacomobongrazio]

"You either die a hero or live short enough to see yourself become the villain". Palafin, 2022.

[@mochiman6307]

And now regeleki has not even taken a day

[@XMirrorJoe]

Oh Aegislash, one of my fave mons! Watching the video I remembered the SubToxic set, I think it had King's Shield and Shadow Ball, that was a nasty set. I also remember when it came on 6th Gen, it was physical attacker, then special and finally the better set was the SubToxic, so versatile.

[@backpackerraden6268]

Soooooo anyone else here in awe now that Gen IX led to 3/5 fastest quick bans?

[@jonisuominen7836]

I had no idea that Zygarde complete was OU. That's absurd 😂

[@Sasha-ph9uv]

It's because Zygarde 50% was OU in XY

[@emmetstanevich2121]

I think it's because only newly introduced box art legendaries are Uber by default, hence why pokemon like Kyurem and Necrozma were in the lower tiers for a hot minute. At the same time, the alternate forms of kyurem and necrozma were in ubers right off the bat because they were introduced as box-arts. I think the same rationale could have been applied for Zygarde-C if pokemon Z ever existed, but since it didn't debut in a game that had it plastered on the cover, it wasn't uber by default. Not sure how it works for the DLC legendaries, though.

[@Iris_Descent]

I love Flutter Mane with all my being, but man that thing had to go instantly. I can't wait for Chi-Yu to get banned in 12 hours in Gen 10.

[@unknownartist689]

Flutter Mane has much to be broken, great stats well distributed, an amazingly good typing with few weakness, various immunities, nearly unresisted only with STABs.

[@kwayke9]

Regieleki getting banned from SV at 200 base speed: hi

[@TKnHappyNess]

Players know how powerful Complete Zygarde is, especially those who were trying to get it's shiny form in Dynamax Adventures

[@annaangelic2318]

Zangoose, when it dropped to ZU during a tier shift in SM, was unanimously and immediately banned by the entire council. It’s funny when the stars align, everyone is online, and a completely broken Pokémon drops.

[@TraumaCenter13]

I guess Delibird got so tired of being ridicule that it went cyborgization and proceed to destroy everything.

[@thorveack]

Just to correct that Video, there's an even more ludicrous than all of those : Marshadow from sun and Moon who only stayed OU for 2 days before being quick banned.

[@duncanw5644]

"It's a shame we never got Pokemon Z" Yeah, about that...

[@FryGuy909]

something ironic is that now houndstone is in NU

[@MissinDaSylveon]

Last Respects is probably the most broken Pokemon move EVER. Think about it, if you sacrifice everyone else on your team, the move's base power will be 300, which is stronger than freaking explosion. It doesn’t make the user faint like explosion ethier. The only way to tank it would be being normal type…

[@aSh-pi1in]

While 300 BP is the most Common base Power for Last Respects, Last Respects BP and Boosted by the amount of times your team fainted, so if someone used revival blessing (or just a revive in game) it can go as High as 5050 BP

[@SeriousStriker]

Fishious Rend hits way harder with Dracovish's Strong Jaw doesn't it?

[@MissinDaSylveon]

@@SeriousStriker Yes. Fishous Rend needs to be in rain to possibly have higher power than 5 fainted allies Last Respects though.

[@lunamaster123]

@@aSh-pi1in There's a hard cap of 350.

[@An_Entire_Lime]

@@SeriousStriker In rain yes, but being slightly weaker than god king dracofish still means you're pretty good

[@chrisrose4703]

and here comes regieleki to make a record nobody will top lmao

[@milkandnuts5816]

To complement the disgusting power of Last Respects, it one shoted my 331 defense Ting Lu in a lucky critical hit and it was horrifying

[@nikc101]

F

[@An_Entire_Lime]

300 base power + stab + crit and lets throw in a choice band for good measure Thats a total of 1012.5 BP I would make a comparison but there is nothing else in the game that even comes close to this

[@An_Entire_Lime]

@@calsalitra4689 I guess I was wrong Although it does require you to be in rain, with strong Jaw, and faster But the BP is still there Fishious Rend was one hell of a move

[@msthecommentator2863]

7:09 To put it into perspective, Iron Bundle's base speed stat is so broken, it could outspeed most Pokemon even if the opposing team was under the effects of tailwind 😳

[@norkbork]

TERAPAGOS NEW QUICKBAN RECORD!!!!!

[@Sightnado]

The release of Pokemon HOME compatibility for S/V has brought with it the new fastest OU quickban in history: Regieleki was quickbanned only 25 hours after being made available, in true Regieleki fashion.

[@bluebaron6811]

"We need a counter to Regieleki!" "What Regieleki?" "The one right th-... Wait, where'd he go?" "See, *nothin'* to worry about". That's what it was like to me. He was a darn phantom; you swore he was there, but he was gone so fast you had to double check that he was there to begin with.

[@rangertalksdogsgames7996]

Fun Fact: Last Respects can reach 5050 Base Power if you revive your other party pokemon and they faint again

[@AaronQuadZero]

So Regieleki's been banned in a single day. Mach speed bolt-beam coverage is a hell of a drug.

[@thatssocyrillo]

Damn palafin was banned so quickly UU wasn’t even there 😭

[@thememehead]

Flutter mane was even faster

[@thatssocyrillo]

@@thememehead yea lmao atleast they made the hard to get post-game mons really good

[@amayurubashaka3608]

Honestly I'm fine with all the banned mons because they're all actually pretty good in ubers.

[@naganut9718]

@@amayurubashaka3608 I mean, there's only like 6 mons in ubers lmao

[@Ego-Fiend]

@@amayurubashaka3608 We only have a few in ubers Just wait for the home DLC and nobody would use them lol

[@TheFuriator]

No way Zygarde-Complete was OU, the beast I was using in Ubers for quite some time, that's just hilarious.

[@jonisuominen7836]

Back when ORAS was released, several pokemon in PU got mega evolutions. The most broken were Lopunny, Beedrill and Altaria that got banned after three hours or so. Freezai made a video about it. E: Just realized that this video was about OU. Dumb me.

[@voltingmaster5458]

Magearna comes in being banned faster Than Genesect And Naganadel.

[@unknownartist689]

Why they banned Magearna and Naganadel?

[@attilaszanto2275]

A few things just occured to me. 1. They clearly haven't learned their lesson from Dracovish, whose base stats aren't that great, but has a busted signature move, similar to Houndstone. 2. The base power of Last Respects actually caps at 5050 if pokémon faint 100 times since revived pokémon who faint afterwards also count. I know this is impossible in pvp battles and tournaments, but still. 3. Basculegion can learn Last Respects by breeding, and has Swift Swim and Adaptability. I think, shortly after it becomes available, Basculegion will also be banned.

[@skeetermania3202]

I think it’s obvious that GF doesn’t balance around Smogon’s format. Saying they “haven’t learned their lesson” sounds pretty condescending.

[@Rarest26]

Actually, it’s technically possible. Pawmot and Rabsca get Revival Blessing, literally a revive in the form of a move. It won’t reach the cap, but you can easily get LR to 400 or even 500 with Leppa Berry on both.

[@ElectricSh33ps]

In that case wouldn't it make more sense to ban Last Respects instead of the Pokemon that can use it?

[@midnightemerald]

I think it caps at 300 but im not sure

[@aSh-pi1in]

@@midnightemerald it was tested in game, and the dataminer found that it can reach 5050 BP

[@ctoooc]

Regieleki got banned in just under a day 😂

[@Dynamic256-ORIGINAL]

I remember using flutter mane due to its monstrous stats. For houndstone I actually looked at it, and even found the move last respects, but I didn't understand what will it exactly work until temp6t's video explained everything. However, at that time it was just banned so I went to ubers.

[@unattended_baby]

fluttermane is an insane pokemon. it does everything you want and it crushes everything.

[@joelbrich2538]

Flutter mane makes me mad because it completely invalidates mismagius.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Who would had thought a good doggo and a penguin would be so destructive they had to be banished to the shadowrealm with Groundon, Kyogre and the ninja frog

[@reignis9937]

Its amazing how 1 gen broke so much the meta XD Its also amuzing to see how in VGS the problem isnt quite the same, due to its rules. But Flutter Mane and Iron Bundle really are on a league of their own.

[@lennartstockl5826]

Zygarde in Gen7: 'You sense the presence of the OU council'