"UGLY" RUSSIAN JUDO

[@muhammadnada9433]

It is not ugly .It is breath taking ,brilliant and efficient

[@BURGAWMMA]

Yes it actually is but the ijf and ioc hates it

[@wsd1984]

@@BURGAWMMA it is more like wrestling?

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@wsd1984 yes Russian Judo is famously heavy on wrestling techniques just like it's sisters sport Cambo AKA Sambo

[@mathiaswerren2798]

What are you talking about?!?! This is beautiful! This is what works!!!

[@BURGAWMMA]

You didn't notice the quotation marks?

[@ByronC900]

Sadly, Judo banned every single one of these takedowns. Americans and Russians started winning, so they changed the rules. This is why I hope BJJ never ends up in the Olympics.

[@BURGAWMMA]

🌟💥Russians and Mongolians ESPECIALLY were beating the Japanese and French so the IJF PANICKED

[@henmont6108]

​@BURGAWMMA if Russians would be better judokas they could still beat the Japanese also without leg grabbling. That's a bad excuse

[@BURGAWMMA]

@henmont6108 Russians are specialists at grabbing legs... if you take that away you disadvantaged Russian Judo!

[@m5a1stuart83]

The Japanese dont involved in IJF in new ruleset. In fact, Japanese follow Kodokan now.

[@dhimankalita1690]

This myth of wrestling dominating is geeting cringe now. During the leg grab era jaoanese wrre dominating and had the most number of medals.In the history of judo with leg grabs NO wrestlers clild achieve anything and no european xlcoubtries could get close to the domination of japan in judo. If anything japan were killing it in the leg grab era Usa couldn't win anything in judo they were bottom.of the barrel and Russians couldn't even surpass france in medal tally in judo. Stop.makimg ups things to feel better the medals speaks for itself

[@lityerambidextrous3668]

Wrestling so effective Judo had to change its Olympic rules lol

[@BURGAWMMA]

They panicked when they heard it was about to be eliminated from the Olympic schedule

[@danielyoung9403]

Load of bollocks

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@danielyoung9403 the ioc in ijf understood wrestling was about to be eliminated from the schedule and worried about getting besieged with a bunch of hairy Muslims who would snatch the legs out from underneath their more marketable athletes

[@danielyoung9403]

Judo was the one going to get kicked off the Olympics, they removed leg grabs so they could better distinguish themselves from wrestling, in the old rules plenty of Russians were in there anyway nobody was 'frightend of the wrestlers' cause a lot of athletes did both

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@danielyoung9403 nope wrestling was and still is on the Olympic chopping bloc because marketable athletes don't win... these days it's more about marketing and swag than sport

[@Gaston-G7]

This in my book is real Judo. Judo has to be effective, if a technique drives your opponent to the ground then it should be allowed! Imagine getting involved in a street fight and not grabbing the legs, ffs.

[@BURGAWMMA]

yes I agree

[@hendrikmoons8218]

Ah, the era of beautiful, powerfull Judo. Leg grabs befor the Kodokan forbade them because they could not handle too many non-Japanese to be champion. It is great that leg grabs are back in the curiculum.

[@BURGAWMMA]

Some contextual leg attacks might return but it'll be a far cry from the original version of Judo

[@hendrikmoons8218]

@@BURGAWMMA Lets hope it keeps evolving back to bassics... I may be getting old now, lol at me, but when i started in 1980 tai o toshi and kata guruma were 2 of my favorites... I started then, just under 5 years, the second throw is more to when I was ten, 1985, loved it. Both as uke and tori. It was taught in a very safe way with being on both knees as the one that executes the throw, alowing the lead free hand of the one being thrown to contact the ground firtst and initiate a safe roll.

[@BURGAWMMA]

@hendrikmoons8218 I started judo in 1985 ALSO...it was PERFECT

[@SuperSneakySteve]

This is why the Japanese banned leg attacks.

[@BURGAWMMA]

exactly!

[@dhimankalita1690]

This myth of wrestling dominating is geeting cringe now. During the leg grab era jaoanese wrre dominating and had the most number of medals.In the history of judo with leg grabs NO wrestlers clild achieve anything and no european xlcoubtries could get close to the domination of japan in judo. If anything japan were killing it in the leg grab era

[@Leksuttaja149]

seriously is doing research forbidden nowadays? leg grabs arent even banned in judo competitions in japan nowadays and japanese are the biggest porponents of keeping judo as it was before. Leg grabs were banned (with a big list of other rule changes) to make it more different from wrestling on the olympic stage

[@europeleeds]

Looks more like wrestling.

[@BURGAWMMA]

I think you're onto something ❤👈💥

[@pyramidal_ancestors]

There really is only grappling!

[@lelouerec]

This is judo !

[@BURGAWMMA]

REAL judo

[@enmo5924]

first guy is Lithuanian not Russian

[@BURGAWMMA]

Russian "style" Judo

[@enmo5924]

@@BURGAWMMA Oh sorry about that missunderstud the title of the vid

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@enmo5924 no you're right I didn't say Russian style Judo in the OP

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

Why do you title it 'Ugly'?

[@Swingitan]

Le dernier est ukrainien. Gloire à l'Ukraine et à ses héros contre l'envahisseur ruSSe.

[@quidautu]

why said "ugly" when it was legal for a while (not now). They are so strong for leg grab tks for Sambo techniques.

[@BURGAWMMA]

IJF banned the techniques claiming they were "ugly" and not "proper judo" however the truth is they knew wrestling was about to be cut so Judo would soon be besieged by thousands of wrestlers who would take over JUDO... the ijf claimed Russian Judo was ugly and not proper but it was actually very effective and they were afraid of it

[@ryanwilliams9984]

Why would freestyle wrestlers enter judo after wrestling being cut? The UWW would still hold the world championships and switching to another sport entirely would be a headache for athletes. Do you have any idea how deep the gi game is and how much higher level judo is than wrestling? It's not even a comparison. This myth you're touting is one of the oldest and usually spread by BJJ guys who have too much time on their hands

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@ryanwilliams9984 LOL I didn't make this up, I was told this by a high-level Judo competitor on the largest Judo discussion board on the internet. If wrestling is dropped from the Olympics wrestlers are going to take their wrestling skills into Judo and they've proved they can make it work... It's really funny you guys bought the ijf ioc narrative

[@ryanwilliams9984]

So you're going off some anecdote from a guy on the internet? Also when did "wrestlers" prove that their skills worked in judo? They had several decades to do so and yet Japan has been wracking up medals in the Olympics this entire time. Hold on tight to your false narrative. Hope it keeps you warm at night.

[@isn81]

Японцы переделали правила под себя так как самбисты начали доминировать в дзюдо со своими проходами в ноги. Японцы ограничили дзюдо, пропала красота, целый пласт борцовской техники.

[@BURGAWMMA]

pa Ruskie da?

[@isn81]

@@BURGAWMMA i am not russian, but in fact judo was restricted by new rules and after that disappeared the beauty of Judo. It is my personal opinion.

[@dhimankalita1690]

This myth of wrestling dominating is geeting cringe now. During the leg grab era jaoanese wrre dominating and had the most number of medals.In the history of judo with leg grabs NO wrestlers clild achieve anything and no european xlcoubtries could get close to the domination of japan in judo. If anything japan were killing it in the leg grab era

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@dhimankalita1690 and what do you think would happen if they got rid of Olympic wrestling... where would all those wrestlers go?

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

I trained Judo in the 1980s and early 1990s, and I actually didn't like the Russian style as it was really just wrestling technique influence (I also wrestled) and I much preferred to keep Judo more upright to use it principles as they should.

[@BURGAWMMA]

The only reason upright Judo people fear wrestling is because they never learned complete Judo and focused on the new game...the lapel makes leg shots radically less effective than anatomical grappling and all you have to do is learn a couple basic freestyle counters...besides Judo already has the answer kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWfXl314nMaEe9Usi=xgcC0RLMPjzr0KS2

[@krotekchech2988]

In all 3 episodes: Lithuanian, Georgian (under Russian flag) and Ukrainian. So why the Russian style?)))

[@BURGAWMMA]

Because they all use the Russian style of Judah with leg attacks

[@krotekchech2988]

@BURGAWMMA why russian? It is correct to say "soviet", but not russian. Or do you mean only russians used this technique?

[@BURGAWMMA]

@krotekchech2988 Russian "style" judo is well understood and famous for pissing off the traditional Judo community... it's more like sambo and wrestling where we don't stand straight up and down and use traditional grips, also Russian Judo is famous for leg attacks. The different styles of Judo made the contest very interesting... if the ijf had their way they would sow the jackets together so you couldn't deviate from the traditional grips and they would only allow two or three big throws... that's what they dream of when they're holding their teddy bears at night meanwhile Judo becomes completely irrelevant as a martial art and so complicated it's impossible to introduce to new communities

[@krotekchech2988]

@@BURGAWMMA yeah, it is clear. But for some reason especially western countries make these terms "soviet" and "russian" equal (not only in sports), which is totally incorrect. That is the main confusion about the title.

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@krotekchech2988 I think you could easily call it "Eastern European" Judo because it's all similar more like sambo and wrestling however it's just easier to call it "Russian"

[@kosmosgii2535]

It is not ugly at all

[@BURGAWMMA]

NO...its beautiful 🖒

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

​@@BURGAWMMA??

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv yes, a MMA Club in Burgaw North Carolina

[@time8041]

You should call it . It's not really Russian.

[@BURGAWMMA]

Yes that's true... it's not exclusive to Russia but the Soviet term is not well understood these days

[@nettlecarrier8259]

It's so funny how five years ago everyone in the WEst was thinking that Russia equals USSR, and now there's a new, opposite trend of "It's not Russian it's Soviet", even though Russia was a center of USSR and led the Union in most things, but ok, let's acknowledge Soviet doesn't equal Russian, but it's funny how whenever you guys start talking about something bad regarding the USSR, the USSR instantly becomes equal to Russia again, cause "Russia bad". Like, let's deny Russia credit for all the Soviet achievements, but let's blame them for all the Soviet shortcomings XD

[@BURGAWMMA]

@nettlecarrier8259 what's really funny is the fact that I love Russia that's why I teach Russian style martial arts

[@dhimankalita1690]

This myth of wrestling dominating is geeting cringe now. During the leg grab era jaoanese wrre dominating and had the most number of medals.In the history of judo with leg grabs NO wrestlers clild achieve anything and no european xlcoubtries could get close to the domination of japan in judo. If anything japan were killing it in the leg grab era

[@BURGAWMMA]

The Japanese were still ahead of the game in overall numbers but the Mongolians and Russians were snatching their legs out with increasing frequency and they knew once wrestling got eliminated from the Olympic schedule they would be besieged with unemployed wrestlers who would change the face of Judo forever

[@spartakmayakovski]

No more legs takedowns

[@BURGAWMMA]

its a crime

[@spartakmayakovski]

@@BURGAWMMA lol no it’s much better , takes more skills

[@BURGAWMMA]

@@spartakmayakovski it takes more specialization not "skill" that's why the modern judoka is as helpless as a child in mixed martial arts or Jiu-Jitsu competition end 99% of Americans couldn't name a judo gold medalist to save their life🔥

[@sk8iny0]

@@spartakmayakovski what? have you ever grappled in your life?

[@hirosinoha5873]

凄い腕力。