UK's Challenger 2 triumphs in Nato tank competition

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@JAR98
@JAR98 Жыл бұрын
More than the tank, this is testament to the sheer quality of British tank crewmen. Respect and congrats from a brother across the pond 🇺🇸💪🏻🇬🇧 Oh and also congrats to the Spanish crew that achieved second place!
@hgm8337
@hgm8337 Жыл бұрын
Challengers are the slowest MBTin Nato and without a commander thermal sight, it must be the crew, right..?.
@sequoiafire5349
@sequoiafire5349 Жыл бұрын
@@hgm8337 Slow and strong and accurate with great protection is sometimes best. Ask your partner.
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 Жыл бұрын
Well that's high praise coming from a Yank and sometimes other Yanks don't think to much of us Brits, we may be a small country but we can punch above are weight in this competition .💪💪💪
@bradleycurtis4703
@bradleycurtis4703 Жыл бұрын
​@@itsonlyme9938a bit like our euro fighter beating f22 in a couple of dog fights 💪
@paullakowski2509
@paullakowski2509 Жыл бұрын
; @@sequoiafire5349 : GErman LEO1A5 tankers told me in NATO Exercise that they never worried with Challengers or Chieftain columns , they just pivoted and sped away leaving the Brits in a cloud of dust.
@philchristmas4071
@philchristmas4071 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the Challengers and they've performed exceptional in battle. Well done by the British. 🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil. 🇺🇸 🇬🇧
@Pulsebass
@Pulsebass Жыл бұрын
Cheers Phil :)
@1999driftwood
@1999driftwood Жыл бұрын
US and GB Most Lethal
@seniorslaphead8336
@seniorslaphead8336 Жыл бұрын
👍 Now hurry up with them Abrams.
@98MAzdaMilleniaS
@98MAzdaMilleniaS Жыл бұрын
Except there’s only 200 of them and there’s about 15,000 Abrams and leopard 2s. They use rifled ammo and can’t use modern nato smoothbore munitions like depleted uranium APFSDS.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 Жыл бұрын
one of the most important components of a tank is the crew, which speaks highly of the UK training and overall competency as well as design
@dynamo1796
@dynamo1796 Жыл бұрын
That American General and his 2 cents about the British Army being a second tier force can shove his commentary up his arse lol!
@bobbobinson2649
@bobbobinson2649 Жыл бұрын
The built in tea machine improves combat effectiveness by 1000%
@andreiarama8745
@andreiarama8745 Жыл бұрын
So if you give it to a crew with very low training it will happen what?
@gotohyoshihisa3971
@gotohyoshihisa3971 Жыл бұрын
@@andreiarama8745 The destruction of (Export) Abrams in Yemen is what happens when commanders/crew are incompetent. Nothing is invincible in this world, and if tanks are left unsupported, they are vulnerable to enemy infantry and can be destroyed. So they are more or less a tool, and no matter how much you try and idiot-proof that, misuse can lead to disasters
@notaname1750
@notaname1750 Жыл бұрын
​@@andreiarama8745 Something like doing an important test without studying.
@smartyy86
@smartyy86 Жыл бұрын
This is the best competition, with a deserved win. Crgoatiulations from Germany to you! Push the boundaries and push all to become as good as you, inside nato.
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Thank you Germany, NATO ally. I love Germany!
@Redisia
@Redisia Жыл бұрын
Every improvement by any nation only pushes the boundry of quality for others to strife for. Thus 'better' tanks by different nations that want to ensure peace is only a good thing.
@MrAnthonyfrench
@MrAnthonyfrench Жыл бұрын
@@richardhussey-cq2se yeh, glad they're on our side
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
@@MrAnthonyfrench Yes, they have been 1955.
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Yes, they have been since 1955.
@tesslake6787
@tesslake6787 Жыл бұрын
Congrats British !! From 🇺🇸 !!
@JohnScott-bb2pm
@JohnScott-bb2pm Жыл бұрын
🇬🇧 ❤🇺🇸
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate.
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Thank You United States, NATO ally. I love USA!
@Neptune_369
@Neptune_369 Жыл бұрын
@@richardhussey-cq2se They're one of the founders of NATO and are apart of the NATO defensive pact, allies to NATO will be Japan, South Korea, Philippines's and Australia for example.
@colingregson8653
@colingregson8653 Жыл бұрын
If needs be we all fight together. Down with Putin !!.
@Reticulosis
@Reticulosis Жыл бұрын
What kills me is that the Brit’s actually put a built in kettle in their tank, 😂. Gotta love them
@BlutoandCo
@BlutoandCo Жыл бұрын
So you can have hot brews, hot food and a hot wash! Its why nearly all modern tanks from every country now does the same. If your out in the field for weeks/months, then at least have hot drinks and food.
@davidpowell6098
@davidpowell6098 Жыл бұрын
Priorities, my friend, priorities.
@TaxTheMonkey
@TaxTheMonkey Жыл бұрын
Correction, they actually have 2 not one 🙂
@ScienceChap
@ScienceChap Жыл бұрын
The US Army puts something similar in their Abrams tanks. It's called HWR, for Heater, Water and Rations.
@cryhavoc999
@cryhavoc999 Жыл бұрын
In WW2 the majority of British Tank Crews killed or injured were outside of the tank conducting personal admin such as cooking, making a brew, cleaning and "dropping the kids of at the pool". So for these reasons and the need to survive in a NBCD environment where the crew could not exit the tank sometimes for days, a boiling vessel was built into the tanks and there are facilities for a toilet using the loaders seat (which is not as popular).
@donquixote1502
@donquixote1502 Жыл бұрын
Fantastically well done! I´m not surprised. ❤ from Sweden
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Get Sweden in NATO now!
@ajarnold8444
@ajarnold8444 Жыл бұрын
We love you Sweden. We need you in NATO for sure
@willl7780
@willl7780 7 ай бұрын
NATO = LGBTQ empire
@anthony49812
@anthony49812 Жыл бұрын
Got to be honest all Nato tanks and crews are top tier nowadays. I cant imagine the dread any enemy would feel seeing Challengers, Abrams, Leopards and Leclerc's rolling towards them. Super proud of our lad's and all Nato crews.
@warbrain1053
@warbrain1053 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing : they won't be rolling, exterminating targets from a kilometer away
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Me too. And some ladies as well!
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 Жыл бұрын
So Russia better be aware
@Nowhere2B
@Nowhere2B Жыл бұрын
Give it 3mths and just ask the Russians 😬👍🏼
@exsappermadman25055
@exsappermadman25055 Жыл бұрын
Ask the Ruskies....
@Pincer88
@Pincer88 Жыл бұрын
Well done to both the tank and its crew. Testament to excellent crew training, a solid team and a great tank! A well deserved cheers from the Netherlands!
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Thank you Netherlands. Another NATO ally. Love from UK.
@Pincer88
@Pincer88 Жыл бұрын
@@richardhussey-cq2se The feeling is very much mutual! Cheers mate!
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
@@Pincer88 You are very welcome.
@macvos
@macvos Жыл бұрын
Too bad we can't compete anymore, and have to lease our tanks from our neighbours just to maintain some operational proficiency. Still, congrats to the Brits for a well deserved win!
@JohnDoe-gy3yy
@JohnDoe-gy3yy Жыл бұрын
The UK's army is currently the smallest it has ever been since the Napoleonic Wars. It's good to see a modern army not need millions of men to prove itself to be deadly, effective and well trained. Love from France
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Thank you France. NATO ally.
@hardywatkins7737
@hardywatkins7737 Жыл бұрын
Currently around 100,000 men i hear.
@MatthewOlney
@MatthewOlney Жыл бұрын
@@hardywatkins7737 more like 70,000
@AndrewStead-wv4po
@AndrewStead-wv4po Жыл бұрын
@@hardywatkins7737 , currently 78,060 professional, 4,060 Gurkhas, about 28,000 voluntary reservists, and 4,520 'other personnel, for a total of 114, 210...
@bushiido8494
@bushiido8494 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewStead-wv4po yeah but those 4000 ghurkas probably equate to the same value as 40,000 normal troops. aboslute beasts.
@williamlawrence6190
@williamlawrence6190 Жыл бұрын
just goes to show that the UK has one of the best tanks in the world but you can also chalk it up to the training of the UK tank crews as well.
@baikal627
@baikal627 Жыл бұрын
I bet a few people are upset😂😂
@jboydayz
@jboydayz Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely got the best protection. Not sure about speed and mobility but definitely protection.
@Jan_372
@Jan_372 Жыл бұрын
@@jboydayz unless it's about the lower hull plate, that one gets penetrated by simple RPGs
@NotoriusMaximus
@NotoriusMaximus Жыл бұрын
how many crews and armor they can field?
@jboydayz
@jboydayz Жыл бұрын
@@Jan_372 Pretty sure the challenger was hit by like 67 RPGs or something and came out fine.
@kitersrefuge7353
@kitersrefuge7353 Жыл бұрын
Well done Britain. Proud to be a Brit. Given the cuts to the armed forces, imagine what these lads could do with proper funding! Hazaar!
@Dhouston1125
@Dhouston1125 Жыл бұрын
what could they do exactly? go shoot Palestinians for their jew overlords?
@cj4680-er4tg
@cj4680-er4tg Жыл бұрын
and yet the UK's Challenger 2 burns on the battle field in ukraine
@JustCoNa
@JustCoNa Жыл бұрын
@@cj4680-er4tg i hear a nice cold glass of orange juice pairs well with cope
@gm45_62
@gm45_62 Жыл бұрын
@@cj4680-er4tg Source? Given none have even been deployed yet, dumbass vatnik
@andyp9040
@andyp9040 Жыл бұрын
@@cj4680-er4tg wheres your proof? Another butthurt russian bot! Glory to ukraine!!
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
Can we be clear about this. The British Challenger is a very good tank. The American Abrams is a very good tank. The German Leopard is a very good tank. The French Leclerc is a very good tank. NATO members work alongside each other, not against each other!
@little_lord_tam
@little_lord_tam Жыл бұрын
No. The competition is important, keeps them all so good
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
@@little_lord_tam Yes, but only friendly competition. We are all on the same side.
@Bathtubcrocodile
@Bathtubcrocodile Жыл бұрын
​@@richardhussey-cq2seAll excellent tanks. And we all have brilliant aviation and marine machinery.
@richardhussey-cq2se
@richardhussey-cq2se Жыл бұрын
@@Bathtubcrocodile Indeed.
@paulvarn4712
@paulvarn4712 Жыл бұрын
Competition has always been a part of comradery. Keeps us all sharp and challenged.
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. Жыл бұрын
Well done to our boys! 🇬🇧
@bbrs925
@bbrs925 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to the folks crewing this beast and to the machine itself ! What a great feat 🇬🇧
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 Жыл бұрын
The Brits are the most disciplined, combined with the Challenger 2, is the answer.
@righteousbyfaithinChrist
@righteousbyfaithinChrist Жыл бұрын
Congrats UK👍🇬🇧So glad we are all working together..each with strengths and vulnerabilities...to preserve a righteous rules based order.
@andyrobinson2653
@andyrobinson2653 Жыл бұрын
Rules based order? And you would fight for that? Might need another booster sunshine.
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 Жыл бұрын
They couldn't have done it without their Boiling Vessel. The British Army runs on tea. 🍵
@ScienceChap
@ScienceChap Жыл бұрын
Quite right too.
@jh7589
@jh7589 Жыл бұрын
Gadzooks Darling! i wouldn't lick a German if he was glazed in honey!
@iancomputerscomputerrepair8944
@iancomputerscomputerrepair8944 Жыл бұрын
Quite rightly so - can't beat a cuppa tea
@DenverDiscovery
@DenverDiscovery Жыл бұрын
And biscuits, don't forget the biscuits. 😁Cheers!
@hans2406
@hans2406 Жыл бұрын
You saw that firsthand or are you mouthing platitudes?
@jonrobinson8005
@jonrobinson8005 Жыл бұрын
Winning the competition while in the turret multitasking and having cups of tea, go QRH🇬🇧💪😎
@ericmcquisten
@ericmcquisten Жыл бұрын
The Challenger scored the longest tank-vs-tank kill in history (1991), and another Challenger tank absorbed the most hits from enemy fire = 70 RPGs of various generations + 1 Milan ATGM, without being put out of commission. Since the British invented the "tank", it's only fitting that they'd still have the best tank in the world.
@Louis-ej1lx
@Louis-ej1lx Жыл бұрын
Chally 1 has longest range tank on tank kill in 1991. Chally 2 survived 70+ RPG rounds and a Milan ATGM in Basra.
@ericmcquisten
@ericmcquisten Жыл бұрын
@@Louis-ej1lx Thanks for the correction... I knew it was a British Challenger tank that had the longest kill and absorbed the most damage, but didn't know the long kill was made from a Challenger 1.
@blooflame1846
@blooflame1846 Жыл бұрын
It vindicates the crew training. Never had a lot to do with tanks when I served but reading this has piqued my interest. I thought they could all be knocked out. I stand corrected.
@Tuck-Shop
@Tuck-Shop Жыл бұрын
Challenger 1 also did so bad in tank games the Brits quit them for good with the statement they build tanks for war, not games. I didn't know the Brits went back on this.
@mrcaboosevg6089
@mrcaboosevg6089 Жыл бұрын
The Challenger 2 that survived the hits wasn't in the Gulf War, i do believe it lost a track in the engagement if i recall correctly. That's obviously not a big deal, tracks will always be the weak point to any tank
@paultimms3442
@paultimms3442 Жыл бұрын
I was attached to the Queens Own Hussars, (one of the forerunners of the QRH) in the early '80's when they were equipped with Chieftain. QOH were selected to represent the UK at the bi-annual CAT (Canadian Army Tank shoot), the NATO MBT shooting competition in 1981. The countries involved were, Germany, Belgium, Holland, Canada, USA & UK. Unfortunately the UK came 5th out of six. However there was no slight against the crews, they were very highly trained and equally highly motivated. The chieftain was much lauded at the time but suffered with many defects. Advance 40 years and it just goes to show how technology has progressed since 1981. Well done to the Queens Royal Hussars. As an aside, I consider myself very lucky to have been REME attached to the Queens Own Hussars, the finest cavalry regiment.........EVER!
@MAKDavid-1
@MAKDavid-1 Жыл бұрын
Why are British using a Royal Hungarian Husar light cavalry as a military name?Its doesn’t really make sense since it would as British would all of a sudden call themselves Hun-Han which is used a derogatory term.
@paultimms3442
@paultimms3442 Жыл бұрын
@@MAKDavid-1 I can't see any mention of "Hungarian" anywhere in my text. Many European countries use the term 'Hussar' Hussar is a generic term for light cavalry as dragoon is for heavy cavalry.
@127TROOP
@127TROOP Жыл бұрын
Paul, what Sqn were you attached too? We’re you at Hohne?
@paultimms3442
@paultimms3442 Жыл бұрын
@@127TROOP hello mate, I was in Detmold. Not a mechanic but a metalsmith so I would have been HQ sqn (A2 ech)
@127TROOP
@127TROOP Жыл бұрын
@@paultimms3442 ah….didn’t do Detmold…did my time in Hohne, A sqn Gunner…good to see some of the old mob alive and kicking mate 😉👍
@simonbird1973
@simonbird1973 Жыл бұрын
Proud ex REME gun fitter watching this. I even served with the QRH in 1996 at Bos Petrovic, Bosnia when the troubles were going on down there. We were based in an old scrap car compound. I still remember the grass fires in May & every once in a while it would set a land mine off!
@beibei93
@beibei93 Жыл бұрын
Challenger 2 is a great tank, just not enough of them.
@SCH292
@SCH292 Жыл бұрын
That's what happen when you cut off military budget for a long time.
@davidpowell6098
@davidpowell6098 Жыл бұрын
420, I believe, not enough.
@patsprankcalls
@patsprankcalls Жыл бұрын
@@davidpowell6098 227, dropping to just 148 Challenger 3s. Let's hope we don't have to fight a war anytime soon.
@ppo2424
@ppo2424 Жыл бұрын
@@patsprankcalls They are reviewing that number,and they need to
@adrianlane4256
@adrianlane4256 Жыл бұрын
@@patsprankcallswe won’t be fighting a war alone though. So better us contribute a small amount effectively than a larger amount of inferior stuff.
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Жыл бұрын
as a person from the US; I've always enjoyed UK tank designs, namely the archer and the crusader SP.
@megaaids2653
@megaaids2653 Жыл бұрын
the archer? out of every tank the UK had i would not expect you to choose that
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Жыл бұрын
@@megaaids2653 it makes sense in a way though. the archer shouldn't be moving too much being that it's a tank destroyer. and if it needs to go backwards cannon faced forwards, it can get away.
@xFFSx
@xFFSx Жыл бұрын
there are many reasons why this tank has never been destroyed by enemies, in many battles. great britain. the great says it all.
@scotthenderson292
@scotthenderson292 Жыл бұрын
Didn't one get shot in the Middle East by like 20 RPGs and all it took to repair was a track and a few armor panels?
@crumpetcommandos779
@crumpetcommandos779 Жыл бұрын
@@scotthenderson292 i think thats the one that got penetrated by an rpg-29, itself quite a deadly AT weapon.
@xFFSx
@xFFSx Жыл бұрын
@@scotthenderson292 where's the article. i must check. highlight a link, and i'll get back to you.
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Жыл бұрын
​@@crumpetcommandos779: That was a different scenario. The 1 that got penetrated was cresting a ridge. The 1 that got hit with all them RPGs & a Milan ATM, wasn't penetrated at all. Not only that, it was back in service the same day.
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Жыл бұрын
​@@xFFSx: Type in Battlestaions Challanger 2. It's a documentary & in it there's a 1st hand account from the actual Tank commander of that engagement.
@davidpowell6098
@davidpowell6098 Жыл бұрын
This tank is good, but the crew training, and competence means everything, well done ,fellows.
@Maarten-Nauta
@Maarten-Nauta Жыл бұрын
Always loved the look of the Leopard but the Challenger is a battlehardened monster. Great tank!
@UsudUsud-ly9qr
@UsudUsud-ly9qr Жыл бұрын
Bruh that comment about leopard and challenges aged like milk left in the Sahara desert
@stephenwoodrow9784
@stephenwoodrow9784 Жыл бұрын
As a civilian I can say with my hand on my heart you have my upmost respect and appreciation as do all our boys and girls in our armed forces. Thank you
@cellardoor7108
@cellardoor7108 Жыл бұрын
As an American I have to admit the challenger 2 is an incredibly sexy tank! 😍👍🏻👍🏻
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Жыл бұрын
To me it looks and sounds exactly like how I’d expect a modern tank to be.
@carlanderson7618
@carlanderson7618 Жыл бұрын
If there was pronouns, inclusivity and diversity segment to the competition the US would have done better
@Getoffmytrain_97268
@Getoffmytrain_97268 Жыл бұрын
What's being American have to do with liking a tank ? Strange
@Chris-zi4mo
@Chris-zi4mo Жыл бұрын
​​@@Getoffmytrain_97268 Americans need to tell you they're American because they think it's a brag. They don't realise it just looks arrogant. And isn't a brag.
@NinjaSquirrel30
@NinjaSquirrel30 Жыл бұрын
Next war were in..... No blue on blue US
@leonardskilroy3869
@leonardskilroy3869 Жыл бұрын
Everyone hates it when Britain performs well, the world just can't stand to see it.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын
The Tank didn't Win on its own, the tactics of the crew using the tank won !
@j.1294
@j.1294 Жыл бұрын
This supports my understanding of this competition: The aim hasn't been a ranking of the hardware.
@NibblestheHamster
@NibblestheHamster Жыл бұрын
Best tank and best soldiers
@j.1294
@j.1294 Жыл бұрын
@@NibblestheHamster "Best tank" Source?
@PaxBritannica34563
@PaxBritannica34563 Жыл бұрын
@@j.1294 You've literally just witness it best a Leopard 2... There is your source.
@Steelninja77
@Steelninja77 Жыл бұрын
well they wouldn't have won if they were in a T72 now would they.
@steve-real
@steve-real Жыл бұрын
The Challenger 2 never lost a fight. Except one time. When it was shot by accident from another Challenger 2.
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
By a HESH round
@andrewtadd4373
@andrewtadd4373 Жыл бұрын
​@@Biketunerfy fluke kill. It hit an open hatch and ricocheted into the turret.
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
@@andrewtadd4373 yeah I heard it years ago. Thanks for sharing though other people will see that comment.
@W1CKED__
@W1CKED__ Жыл бұрын
its also never fought a near pear opponent in fairness
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
@@W1CKED__ you mean a near peer opponent. I would not like to be the tank that goes up against a challenger 2 since it’s a tough nut to crack. The Challenger 2 fully kitted out with its Dorchester 3 armour is a fearsome tank. Even with out its add on armour it’s renown for its top secret composite armour and ability to absorb hits like it did in Iraq.
@mickelson8332
@mickelson8332 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see she is still a great piece of kit, 13 years after I left the REME having spent the majority of my career on CR and CR2. Many years spannering and many years in Trials and Development. Cr2 doesn't operate by itself, well done the Hussars. Ex ASM Vehs.
@juanf5391
@juanf5391 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to the Brits!
@RoswellCrash
@RoswellCrash Жыл бұрын
Proud to be British 🇬🇧 Abrams 🇺🇸 & Leopard 🇩🇪 are great tanks too, we’re better together as allies! An old saying “With Europe, but Not of It.”
@Enigmatic..
@Enigmatic.. Жыл бұрын
Its not just the tank, its the fact that we have the best trained soldiers in the world.
@thefinalseries
@thefinalseries Жыл бұрын
Training which multiple other militaries have studied and copied too! The yanks have copied British military doctrine across all branches of their armed forces, even down to traditions! As have many other nations. May have a very very small military these days but still the best trained and equipped. 🇬🇧
@thebeardedastronomer
@thebeardedastronomer Жыл бұрын
@@Aquila. spot the chap who knows nothing when he posts a "😂" to this comment. Go on petal, who are better trained? The americans have been sending their soldiers to Britain for training for decades. a $700billion military budget doesn't mean you're the best
@x66Hawk66x
@x66Hawk66x Жыл бұрын
The Americans are equal to Brits on the field, and are very well trained also. The most experienced are the Ukrainians in warfare. I would not be surprised if our lads will be taking some lessons from Ukrainian veterans when that awful business is said and done.
@Tbm147
@Tbm147 Жыл бұрын
@@x66Hawk66x The Americans are not anywhere near equal. You need only look at the dozens of friendly fire incidents in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well at their so called "special forces" lobbing a grenade into a room that killed the hostage they were meant to be rescuing...
@robertwolf3969
@robertwolf3969 5 ай бұрын
@@Tbm147 Well the Brits are rarely deployed. And if your not deployed, guess what ...you're not going to have friendly fire incidents. Easy to talk smack, when for the most part your not in the game.
@thenny9081
@thenny9081 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the fellas in the UK putting out a solid piece of armor. Also looking forward to the generation of Abrams by GD to stand next to our international allies 🇺🇸
@awatt
@awatt Жыл бұрын
Challenger and Abrams work together.
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Жыл бұрын
The Russian tanks don't stand a chance against the Challenger 2,Abrams and Leopard.
@philonetic321
@philonetic321 Жыл бұрын
@@freethinker-- What Russian tanks? xD They've been getting decimated so badly that Russia rolled out the old T-72's but discovered many were missing their optics because of corruption.
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Жыл бұрын
@@philonetic321 true 😅, they definitely have one,the one at the parade.
@Blackburn6969
@Blackburn6969 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Challenger, Abrams and Leopard series I consider to be the main pillars of MBT history. And the best around the world hands down
@rulebritannia2500
@rulebritannia2500 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@jasoncreamer5747
@jasoncreamer5747 Жыл бұрын
Britain's military has been vastly diminished but they always seem to be top performers in the world when it comes to war games and competitions like this. Very nice to know that the training and standard of equipment has kept up.
@UsudUsud-ly9qr
@UsudUsud-ly9qr Жыл бұрын
Yeah paper challie is being disabled by old Soviet 1950-x mine and then annihilated by cornet is top notch engineering and armor
@garyfilmer382
@garyfilmer382 Жыл бұрын
Well done to the British🇬🇧Army, and everyone involved in the design and creation of the superb Challenger II Main Battle Tank! This tank is going to become legendary!
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
All gone - now housing estates packed with foreigners.
@MargotDobbie
@MargotDobbie Жыл бұрын
Already is mate
@English.Andy1
@English.Andy1 Жыл бұрын
Even better with the upgrades
@mosthaunted2
@mosthaunted2 Жыл бұрын
Just comfirming what the Brits already knew, we've been saying for years that its the best Tank in the World, but people didn't believe it.
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Жыл бұрын
Shame the government hasn’t seen their worth. No upgrades and significant unit numbers. Sometimes I feel the MOD doesn’t deserve the army or its equipment.
@mosthaunted2
@mosthaunted2 Жыл бұрын
@@qasimmir7117 The upgrades will be the Challenger 3, aswel as brand new Challenger 3's.
@sequoiafire5349
@sequoiafire5349 Жыл бұрын
@@qasimmir7117 Challenger 3 is happening now. The UK does not need vast numbers of MTB's.
@Wurstbrot4life
@Wurstbrot4life Жыл бұрын
The last three comps have been won by the Leopard II though...
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Жыл бұрын
​@@Wurstbrot4life: But when it comes to actual combat (& I don't mean "War Thunder" & "World of Tanks") it's combat record has been on par & in some cases better than any other Tank.
@R.Sole88109
@R.Sole88109 Жыл бұрын
Go on the Chally2 and Crew💪🏻🇬🇧🙌🏻
@jamesbeech8643
@jamesbeech8643 7 ай бұрын
We may not have many tanks but what we have ARE very good!
@karlpopewoodcraft
@karlpopewoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Well done guys.
@stewartmackay
@stewartmackay Жыл бұрын
We need to seriously raise the military budget in the UK. We have the brains, the know-how and the ideas, but the UK armed forces need to be properly funded. I'm talking about a 2 or 3 fold increase.
@LookHereMars
@LookHereMars Жыл бұрын
Brains, know-how, and ideas are all well and good, but with an economy on the decline and multiple trillions in debt, it's all for nought.
@Climpus
@Climpus Жыл бұрын
It would be nice, but which budget does the extra money to do this come from?
@1chish
@1chish Жыл бұрын
@@LookHereMars Sorry but the UK economy is not 'in decline' at all. It outgrew the rest of the G7 countries in 2021 and 2022. This year it is well ahead of all the naysayers (ONS, OBR, IMF, BoE) 'forecasts'. Even the IMF are now admitting they got us wrong and we will be nowhere near a recession. Unlike others. As for national debt we are in very good shape. Government debt was equivalent to 99.2% of GDP at the end of April 2023. This puts us below Canada, France, Spain, Italy, Japan (266%), Singapore and the USA (128%) and just ahead of the Euro area. So maybe take off the negativity and have some belief in your country?
@Chris-zi4mo
@Chris-zi4mo Жыл бұрын
​​@@1chish Would be nice if there wasn't such a difference between GDP and GDP per Capita in the UK though. What's the point of having a high GDP if only a few greedy bastards get to enjoy it.
@brian8861
@brian8861 Жыл бұрын
you are wrong, why spend so much money on the military when 1 we are in Nato and 2 most likely wont participate in a war for a very long time to come, money isnt magically grown.
@taqiyasir8086
@taqiyasir8086 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to the Challenger 2 and to the UK.
@FuriousFire898
@FuriousFire898 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤🇬🇧
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate.
@AbdulgamidShruakinov
@AbdulgamidShruakinov Жыл бұрын
Wow Awesome UK, nice work
@DRUMNERD
@DRUMNERD Жыл бұрын
Showing us what we all knew, can we just have about 500+ more of them please!!!
@pgr3290
@pgr3290 Жыл бұрын
It's the machine and the crew. Hopefully Ukraine's crews get as good if not better and Russia will see even if the number of Challenger 2 is low they will be a serious headache
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Жыл бұрын
They will probably be more of a psychological impact than a tactical or strategic impact.
@DraterTTV
@DraterTTV Жыл бұрын
Thank you to everyone who took part and everyone did really well! Well done to my fellow Brits who took home the spear!
@Trojan0304
@Trojan0304 Жыл бұрын
Well trained crew make the difference in combat , always has.
@DrCrabfingers
@DrCrabfingers Жыл бұрын
Well this is good to hear. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons for the huge upgrade from Challenger 1s was that in a similar competition the British came bottom with the original Challengers....at huge embarrassment to the MOD. So it's good to hear that things have been turned around. Since most top level tanks use the same hardware and munitions it's fair to say that it was the crews that were the difference? All that time on the Lulworth ranges has paid off!
@chrisbrown4002
@chrisbrown4002 Жыл бұрын
The Challenger 1 in its first form came from the original tank order from Iran not being completed due to their islamic revolution. That tank was really an improved Chieftan design, improved for British service but not great. Experience showed that a major revamped design was what was really required - hence Challenger II. As around 450 were originally made what have the MOD who are completely useless when it comes to equipment done with them all ???? Oman only had around 40 ... There used to be around 20 on the combat ranges in Canada. I expect its another national disgrace by the MOD who probably scrapped them on the quiet cos we all know main battle tanks were never going to be used in a proper war .... Yeah right
@KangoV
@KangoV Жыл бұрын
Challenger 2 has the only rifled barrel in NATO? Different ammunition. Also, more accurate. But the barrel wears quicker.
@ppo2424
@ppo2424 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrown4002 Er, we still have them
@sequoiafire5349
@sequoiafire5349 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrown4002 Big rant from a small mind.
@jamesmccann531
@jamesmccann531 Жыл бұрын
@@KangoV Rifling doesn't make modern ammunition any more accurate. Rifling was done for gyroscopic stabilisation, now there is Fin Stabilised ammo, so rifling has no accuracy gain anymore.
@Jimmywoodstock
@Jimmywoodstock Жыл бұрын
Well done lads, you done us proud 👏👏👏🇬🇧
@SlaterGator
@SlaterGator Жыл бұрын
Ive lived in AUS and UK 50/50 of my life and one things for sure. We work hard and play harder. So you just know the kettle in the Challenger isnt cold...
@jackevans7665
@jackevans7665 Жыл бұрын
Can it really be British if it didn't have a kettle?
@DontFearTheWolf666
@DontFearTheWolf666 Жыл бұрын
Considering Britain invented the tank, it makes a lot of sense that Britain would have one of the best tanks in the world if not the best.
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim Жыл бұрын
Most of ww2 says otherwise
@BlutoandCo
@BlutoandCo Жыл бұрын
​@@TinyBearTim why would most of WW2 says Britain didnt invente the tank?
@Justprint88
@Justprint88 Жыл бұрын
@@TinyBearTim That’s not true at all is it Tim. The only problem in WW2 is Britain couldn’t produce enough tanks.
@Matheuzu42
@Matheuzu42 Жыл бұрын
They invented football and they suck tho
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim Жыл бұрын
@@BlutoandCo ww2 proves most British tanks are bad
@acediadekay3793
@acediadekay3793 Жыл бұрын
The Tank Competition: 1st = 🇬🇧 2nd = 🇪🇸 3rd = 🇺🇸. The IFV competition: 1st = 🇨🇦 = 2nd = 🇪🇸 3rd = 🇪🇸.
@paulevans7742
@paulevans7742 Жыл бұрын
It makes all the difference when you don't use expiring ammo.
@nmw6674
@nmw6674 Жыл бұрын
I'm from leeds, living 1/2 mile away from the old Barnbow factory in Cross gates, which existed there for at least 50 years. It built the old Chieftain plus the newer, upgraded Challenger. Every so often, a tank carrier would roll up, load a tank, drive it out slowly and the whole place stopped (bearing in mind this is a main street with shops and houses on a 'tiny' little old English road) and the loaders would slowly ride by with these magnificent, brand new, iconic pieces of British Engineering on board and people stopped, mesmerised- from young kids to aged pensioners- in awe of such powerful beauty. Our factory has since gone, lost to another place. We, from East Leeds, were, and still are, extremely proud of our history of our munitions past, and military history. Long live the Barnbow Girls. Respect to all. x
@JWSoul
@JWSoul Жыл бұрын
Amazing maybe some countries should take notice and BUY British.
@seniorslaphead8336
@seniorslaphead8336 Жыл бұрын
Quite apart from the quality of Challenger 2 the Ukrainian crews were already experienced tankers who have been trained on the type by these experts... best of British luck to them, although I suspect they will not need it.
@noobster4779
@noobster4779 Жыл бұрын
According to one of the german trainers of the ukranian crews, their quality varied wildly from experienced tanker to a guy that was mobilized a few days ago and never saw a tank in his life.
@theNeathBoy
@theNeathBoy Жыл бұрын
@@noobster4779 desperate times for them, they are drawing from every walk of life. It’s how it goes. Good luck to them, they’re fighting for survival!
@user-xh3wr1do7k
@user-xh3wr1do7k Жыл бұрын
@@theNeathBoy A Ukrainian who used to be an IT consultant is now a commander of a Panzerhaubitze 2000 because due to his computer background, he learned very quickly how to operate the vehicle to its maximum effectiveness.
@theNeathBoy
@theNeathBoy Жыл бұрын
@@user-xh3wr1do7k I saw that guy being interviewed.
@seniorslaphead8336
@seniorslaphead8336 Жыл бұрын
@@theNeathBoy In terms of learning they just need to stick a vet in every tank. The rest will get a combination of learning from the old hand and whatever training they are getting from the West. They are now a fully conscripted army and just like in WW1 and WW2 civilian skills are bleeding into their capability. This is why the Ukrainians have become so inventive...
@bigboy0625
@bigboy0625 Жыл бұрын
This needs to be in the Olympics get rid of pistol shooting and bring this in. Gold for GB 👍🇬🇧
@wafll8777
@wafll8777 Жыл бұрын
Well done chaps……..not just the tank but the crews that operate them are top of their class.
@Ekstrax
@Ekstrax Жыл бұрын
Well congrats to the winners! Nice achievement
@LordOfLight
@LordOfLight Жыл бұрын
Well ok, but don't forget that one of the reasons the Challenger did so well is undoubtedly the training the crews receive. You can't divorce the vehicle from the driver.
@brian8861
@brian8861 Жыл бұрын
obviously, still one of the most effective tanks in the world which no one doubts, even the Americans
@Q...........-
@Q...........- Жыл бұрын
Ironic that you mention the driver, he's probably cursing the whole time about how slow the challenger 2 is
@Xian109
@Xian109 Жыл бұрын
fortunately, Ukraine's crews have been trained by this winning team
@barryhendry8348
@barryhendry8348 Жыл бұрын
One of the major reasons the UK forces are what they are, we may lack the resources, but the training of our troops have always been of a high standard.
@jacklobb3510
@jacklobb3510 Жыл бұрын
@@Q...........- why would you need to move at speed when you can take a lot of hits and shoot at range with accuracy, demoralising opposition
@ahh980
@ahh980 Жыл бұрын
When we are teamed up with our cousins across the pond we are unstoppable.
@minsapint8007
@minsapint8007 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the team effort involved in the success. Bravo.
@Kishandreth
@Kishandreth Жыл бұрын
Remember, this is a friendly competition. No matter which individual country performs the best all of NATO wins. Pushing crews to be the best they can be benefits everyone, because one day they might be fighting alongside each other. Sure bragging rights are a thing, but at the end of the day every tank crew here would be willing to stand toe to toe with all the others in the competition.
@rmac4612
@rmac4612 Жыл бұрын
Everyone can blatently see it's a friendly competition. The UK and challenger 2 won the friendly competition and they deserve some credit for it. It sounds like you want it to be one of those modern kids sports days where every kid gets a trophy even when they came last.
@colingregson8653
@colingregson8653 Жыл бұрын
To true !!. Brothers in arms !.
@corvanphoenix
@corvanphoenix Жыл бұрын
Great work guys! That's a serious addition to the trophy room!
@hansulrichboning8551
@hansulrichboning8551 Жыл бұрын
With its strong armor and HESH-rounds Challenger 2 will serve Ukraine very well.Larger Tank-to-Tank engagements did not happen often so far, so the advantages of a smoothbore gun are not so important.
@LFX27
@LFX27 Жыл бұрын
Quality tank. Quality crew. Classic British, the very best🫰🏽💯
@Avarent01
@Avarent01 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to them! NATOs strength lies in the unity of its members and competitions like these are good to find common grounds between soldiers on the field.
@UsudUsud-ly9qr
@UsudUsud-ly9qr Жыл бұрын
Lol
@TheGreatCalsby
@TheGreatCalsby Жыл бұрын
Wonderful show of British skill, backed in healthy competition with our friends and allies across NATO and Europe. Proud of everyone.
@Tha_Slick1
@Tha_Slick1 Жыл бұрын
Dude look at the low profile on that thing! It looks like a got damn lowrider! Impressive.
@FuriousFire898
@FuriousFire898 Жыл бұрын
Lets go lads! 🇬🇧
@alwaysbereadym8
@alwaysbereadym8 Жыл бұрын
Best and toughest tank out there, it's a shame their isn't more, but what they lack in numbers, they make up for in hardness, it holds multiple records, and has withstood multiple (60+)RPG hits and a Milan atgms too, plus with its rifled barrel can and has blitzed a tank at over 5km/3miles away, confirmed kill at that distance is outstanding indeed, in fact it's only ever been incapacitated by one of its own In a blue on blue accident, but was up and fighting again 6 hrs after, yep it's a beast indeed
@christopersambeli2823
@christopersambeli2823 Жыл бұрын
this tank got destroyed in russia
@45641560456405640563
@45641560456405640563 Жыл бұрын
Hope typing that out was soothing.
@garyford3533
@garyford3533 8 ай бұрын
Not if there was a British crew, it had a poorly trained Ukrainian crew.
@joncatchpole2757
@joncatchpole2757 8 ай бұрын
Really ...in Russia, I DONT THINK SO. For information 'THE CHALLENGER 11 hit a mine'. Therefore a Challenger 11 still has never been destroyed by enemy fire. Ok if any tank hits a modern anti-tank mine it will be destroyed. If a mine can destroy ships it can certainly kill a tank. The tank was destroyed by a mine, the crew got out and the Russians then took target practice
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 8 ай бұрын
@@joncatchpole2757Roman numerals II = 2. 11 is one more than ten. There are only three Challenger variants. Ship mines rarely cause tanks to explode, as well. It's because ships are usually but not always on water, and tanks usually aren't. A transport ship with a number of Japanese tanks was found at the bottom of Truk lagoon in the Pacific, though.
@karaloca
@karaloca 7 ай бұрын
As a Brit I’m glad they won, but these days the British army consists of around 11 blokes, a part-time chef and a few bicycles. Retention is at an all time low. I left after 11 years as I was disillusioned with our country as a whole. Politicians working against its people. If our next op was to rid parliament of fools you can sign me up again.
@Liam1991
@Liam1991 Жыл бұрын
I've seen some websites that puts the Leopard, K2 Black Panther, and Abrams as the top 3 tanks. The Challenger 2 sits around the number 4 spot. It's great to seen our tanks are punching above its weight, and knocking out the competition 😁
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM Жыл бұрын
A lot these websites haven't got a clue. They never take into account the "Chally's" real world combat record, which is exemplary, especially when compared to every tank they rank above it.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Жыл бұрын
They are all excellent tanks, some excell in some areas over other marginally. The Challenger 2 is probably the most impervious to enemy fire as well as having the longest reach. A good combination but its heavy.
@mortalz9940
@mortalz9940 3 ай бұрын
aged like milk today
@cleoarchwhiza9006
@cleoarchwhiza9006 Ай бұрын
Pics of the turret lying on the ground are out today.
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Жыл бұрын
Wow, wasn’t expecting this considering how lacks the MOD have been in regards to Challenger 2 upgrades. Goes to show how good the initial design of Challenger 2 is and how well dialled in the crews are to their machine. Suppose it also has something to do with the faster loading two-part ammo as I remember seeing in its demonstration video where it stopped eight targets in 58 seconds. Nice surprise since it is my favourite tank. Well done to the Queen’s Royal Hussars, ‘target stopped!’
@MAKDavid-1
@MAKDavid-1 Жыл бұрын
Why calling any British force after Hungarian Hussar Royal cavalry?Its like calling it archers of ETEL.
@domEastCoast
@domEastCoast Жыл бұрын
​@@MAKDavid-1 I would recommend reading up on it to be honest. In a nutshell....Dragoon: heavy cav, Hussar: light cav
@alexalbrecht5768
@alexalbrecht5768 Жыл бұрын
The competition wasn’t evaluating low visibility conditions where thermals would be needed or evaluating armor penetration. The challenger 2 is top tier as long as those two things are overlooked. Thankfully the Challenger 3 is fixing those shortcomings.
@BStuz
@BStuz Жыл бұрын
@@MAKDavid-1 because the hussars have been hussars for a few hundred years. The original British Hussar regiments were light cavalry who adopted a dress uniform modelled on Hungarian Hussars.
@MAKDavid-1
@MAKDavid-1 Жыл бұрын
@@BStuz Well I am aware of past connections and that British monarch have some distant genetic connections to once Hungarian Árpádian dynasty but since monarchy is not a driving force any longer it’s strange to British Army using the Hussar identity which where fundamentally Royal Guards as a Hungarian type of Templars .
@davebetney
@davebetney Жыл бұрын
I'm actually not surprised, but I am proud 🇬🇧 just watch once the Ukrainian counterattack begins...everyone will be talking about the Leopards but Chally will out perform
@maninahole
@maninahole Жыл бұрын
Naturally. We invented the tank.
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus Жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how good CH3 will be!
@Romkosss
@Romkosss Жыл бұрын
A huge thank to Britain for your support to Ukraine !
@darynlowe7002
@darynlowe7002 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I speak on the behalf of many when I say, you're very welcome. I'm sure they'll be put to good use and play their small but significant role in helping bring this attricious war to a quicker conclusion.
@craigriddle-lb4uz
@craigriddle-lb4uz Жыл бұрын
Tony do u want the war to last longer. kids are been killed people are losing everything they have . Anything that can end this war quicker is needed. Bet Ur glad Ur sitting to comfy house not bombs shells exploding all around u. Just let Ukraine join NATO and let them evoke article 5 of the defence treaty. Will soon see the Russians running then. All the russian systems are failing against the west's .
@generalpeeps
@generalpeeps Жыл бұрын
@@tony78uk48 well now you're outnumbered 2 to 1. All of our support goes out to those in Ukraine and may the aid be of as much help as possible. I just hope that when Ukraine is whole again we keep up our efforts to support Ukraine and help them rebuild their beautiful nation.
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here Жыл бұрын
@@generalpeeps Lol, bro NATO and America grossly underestimated Russia with their proxy war. Just wait for the backpedaling which has already started when Bakhmut fell.
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here Жыл бұрын
I've been following this special operation closely since 2014, gotta say it's not looking good for the Stepan Bandera nationalist. It's sad the people suffer on behalf of Zelensky and his administration 😔
@paulantony8148
@paulantony8148 Жыл бұрын
Cracking job lads!!
@turboz6477
@turboz6477 Жыл бұрын
Well done guys, great work. 🇬🇧👍
@danielhopkins2277
@danielhopkins2277 Жыл бұрын
Although (a lot of) tank enthusiasts are saying the american, korean and/or german tanks are the best, the most modern tanks are very similar... so the most important part is the crew. The best crews will make this good tanks better, while bad crews will make this tanks just easy targets.
@bradlavassaur8265
@bradlavassaur8265 Ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Congratulations on the win at the Iron spear competition. Awesome achievement. Thank you for sharing.
@TRUCKERNORBI
@TRUCKERNORBI Жыл бұрын
well done by the British crew ,the leo2 and the abrams has hunter killer also but what matters is how well trained the crew is and not just training its how well the crew work togheter as one whit the tank .i think they work so well that they almost read eachothers mindand everybody knows where to be and what to do so its exeptional team to say at least
@zersky495
@zersky495 Жыл бұрын
British when their Wunderwaffen ACTUALLY have to fight a real enemy
@garyford3533
@garyford3533 8 ай бұрын
We the british have fought in many wars, it's what we do best, that's why we the british have the best armed forces in the world.
@abdellahiehreimo3402
@abdellahiehreimo3402 Жыл бұрын
Not a strange thing for Challenger 2 since it has the longest tank engagement shots over longest distance ever recorded.. UK rocks
@ChopperMeir
@ChopperMeir Жыл бұрын
It doesn't. You're thinking of CR1.
@jamesarmitage8399
@jamesarmitage8399 Жыл бұрын
British #1 Always have been when others especially other countries asking for our help. Why not seing as British army, sas etc are the elite/best on the planet!! *proud to be British!!
@DS-cf1zc
@DS-cf1zc Жыл бұрын
Brilliant bit of kit - but you can see some corners of our wonderful country talking it down. Keep doing what you are doing, and lets hope the next upgrade builds upon the current specification in positive ways.
@SIBUK
@SIBUK Жыл бұрын
And then after winning they got to make a nice cup of tea using their in-built hot water system.
@gunshipzeroone3546
@gunshipzeroone3546 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the tank best weapon, the kettle, to make tea.
@CypressWalker
@CypressWalker Жыл бұрын
Man, I would have loved to have a ring side seat at all of these events. Especially the night runs.
@mhamedshaaban6626
@mhamedshaaban6626 8 ай бұрын
One of them 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💜💜💜✨✨✨🙏
@marcmech1
@marcmech1 Жыл бұрын
Germany is furious right now 😡😡😡😡
@marius-arnoldpeper9228
@marius-arnoldpeper9228 Жыл бұрын
Germany was not present. They win most of the time.
@wezxoo_4071
@wezxoo_4071 Жыл бұрын
They won because france only send AMX10RCR and not LECLERC
@deckdeckard5297
@deckdeckard5297 Жыл бұрын
I just posted a comment asking if the Leclerc had taken part in Iron Spear 2023, and only thereafter I made a search in the comments and found yours. Do you have an explanation why France didn't send the Leclerc MBT, but only an AMX-10 RC, which is neither a MBT, nor an IFV (the other part of the exercise)???
@joncatchpole2757
@joncatchpole2757 8 ай бұрын
Well thats a bit scary, Hopefully France will get it right in a serious situation. National prestige was involved and France sends a second rate tank! Oh dear. oh dear, oh dear
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