UL vs ETL, Understanding Safety Certifications

[@OnLogic]

What topics would you like to see us cover on upcoming Tech Edge videos? Be sure to comment below and let us know!

[@binaryglitch64]

What cert do I need to sell electronics in a given country... say Japan or Australia or China... Personally I'm just a hobbyist who will probably never need that info, but I'm still curious and would watch a video about it to the end.

[@OnLogic]

@@binaryglitch64 Thanks for the input! We actually have a video about safety certifications, which is one element of the regulatory requirements for selling products internationally. You can check that out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJLWeaBja8amqqs The full answer to your question will depend largely on what exactly you're selling, how you're selling it and where. Sadly there's not a single cert to rule them all, but we'll look into expanding the information we're providing on the topic. Thanks again for the feedback!

[@binaryglitch64]

@@OnLogic awesome thanks, will check it out.

[@OnLogic]

@@binaryglitch64 Just updated the link to the correct video :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJLWeaBja8amqqs

[@horrorshowbass]

great video, if my cables are CE rated and installed in a Canadian facility, do they also need to be further UL rated?

[@2009raindrop]

Was hoping to find info about CE markings but good video anyway!

[@OnLogic]

Thanks for the comment! Here are two blog posts that cover certifications. We hope they help you find what you were looking for. www.onlogic.com/company/io-hub/etl-listed-vs-ul-listed-a-guide-to-understanding-safety-certifications/ www.onlogic.com/company/io-hub/going-global-certifications-matter/

[@peterwan816]

Wow thank you! This is really helpful, I have always though that the ETL mark have something to do with intertek as they always appears at the same time, and now I know that they do XDDD

[@globaldon7212]

Thanks for your presentation which compnays in the US Conducts safety compliance tests for phone chargers and how much does it cosf ?

[@phillipmaser132]

How about products that are autonomous in nature, vehicle, space, or other. what standards would this entail? Cars electrical saftey.

[@OnLogic]

That space is certainly expanding quickly and the specific certifications required will depend on the use case. As you mentioned, it's not just self-driving cars, though they still get the bulk of the attention. UL has an extensive list of related certifications and provides a training and advisory service specifically for it: www.ul.com/services/autonomous-vehicle-safety-training-and-advisory OnLogic customers use our hardware for a range of autonomous solutions including warehousing robots, delivery devices and agricultural equipment. The certification and testing needs all vary for both the hardware and the solution.

[@kb3khs]

My mother wanted to know about certifications. I showed her your video. She says you talk too fast, but it's a good video and good information.

[@phillipmaser132]

Can Autonomous Vehicle's be classified as a Class 1 or Class division #; How would I go about this ?

[@henryjx5294]

Hi I’ve gotten an air fryer for my business from overseas, do I have to apply for UL and do they come and check out the product or I have to bring it to their labs to get tested? Please give me a reply 🙏🙏🙏 thank you!!

[@OnLogic]

Thank you for the question. Product manufacturers are the ones that apply for and receive UL certification, not consumers. You'll want to check with the manufacturer to determine if the product has undergone safety certification.

[@karimgeorges8469]

Which category would electrical pvc pipes be in ?

[@ivegotpetercriss]

Tested to UL 651.

[@frederickoparah1669]

How much would UL certification cost for a Hooverboard for example?

[@OnLogic]

Hi Frederick, thanks for watching and for the question. Cost for UL listing includes a wide range of factors. The best way to get an estimate for cost is to contact UL (or your testing lab of choice) directly.

[@abhinnkaushik6534]

Any UL testing labs in India

[@yusip9328]

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[@CHEFMART]

what about NSF? people want to know how ETL got started and is seemly replacing nsf approvals and companies pay more for approvals don't they ? less is ETL and NSF more, better or worse? for a restaurant. alot of companies today in china make everything and they only are putting ETL on not nsf and some like Vevor don't have NSF approvals but still use the word commercial to make u think it's passing the standards, when it's cheaper, cheaply being made and sold more of and excluding the little merchants who cannot compete to sell their goods, when they are being uncut with no good name brands out there, in todays market. companies are passing off lesser quality products and selling them cheaper. no health inspector is looking or checking and customers don't know the difference, alot of them have no training on cooking or cleaning and they don't know what to look for to buy the right item for their place. china is getting rich from their goods, making 1 product and then 10 different tags on that for different lesser quality name brands from 1 creation-slightly different.. all comes from china now days. home products, home appliances do not last long, even commercial ones are breaking down with 290 in them-flammable liquid propane. Even NSF today isn't good quality frankly, beacuse alot of parts that go into it don't come from usa, they change their whole production for cheaply made metals and compressors and nsf isn't meaning much now days, all the big name brands will be swallowed up in the next 25 years.