ULEZ: The battle for Britain's roads

Clean air zones aim to reduce air pollution by charging drivers of the most polluting vehicles - but with the public already feeling the financial pinch during a cost of living crisis, many feel ULEZ is just a money making scheme.
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has been given the green light to go ahead with the expansion across the capital at the end of August and many commuters are outraged about digging deeper into their pockets to get from A to B.
When the zone expands, around 700,000 cars in London will not be compliant, according to the RAC.
But the aim of ULEZ is cleaner air and better health for all - so what should take priority?

[@robpumfrey667]

When the air quality was checked in the underground railway it was found to be hundreds of times dirtier than outside, but that's fine to force people down there to get around London.

[@trebo2348]

100% true.

[@st200ol]

True however I don’t have to use the underground but I do have to breathe the air in London.

[@trebo2348]

@@st200ol and if you look at the data it's going to make very little difference. not enough to warrant that amount of disruption and pollution smelting perfectly good cars to make way for more debt.

[@st200ol]

@@trebo2348Your definition of perfectly good cars is slightly different to mine considering 22+ year old cars in many cases still meet the required standards.

[@trebo2348]

@@st200ol were done here I guess you can't see its going to create more pollution than it will save look at the data yourself. and then factor in production pollution, debt so the need to work more and travel more etc... look past the end of your nose.

[@ljt3084]

6 airports in greater London. 2 of which are transcontinental airports. One of which has the highest number of daily flights in the world. 1300 combined flights (take off/landing daily. Jet turbines do NOT have emissions control. One airliner can carry 383'000 ltrs of fuel per flight. One car carries 45 ltrs per tank. 200 privately owned helicopters reside in Britain. London city airport is a helicopter hub. Mostly transporting one passenger per journey. No emissions control on a twin jet engined helicopter. Aircraft are least full efficient at take off burning far more fuel that at altitude. But lets just focus on the cars shall we when demanding cleaner air for London.

[@hippo319]

Dont go anywhere, don't do anything.

[@P-qk2tz]

​@@hippo319pretty weak and pathetic of you that you can't go anywhere or do anything without a car or plane. Don't you know the majority have legs and that trains exist? That at least leaves our streets free for those who are less abled to use cars. Not for weaselly pathetic people who can't be arsed to cycle even if they are full abled.

[@davidkavanagh189]

I get your point but almost all of your quoted facts are completely wrong.

[@joachimogereau4531]

when China and India can pollute however they like...

[@timetowaketheheckup123]

all in the name of freedom!@@hippo319

[@terrybritcliffe9345]

The problem is, if everyone buys a complaint car, they will loose a lot of revenue, so they will bring something else in like pay per mile.

[@griffinemerson8475]

It's not about the money it's about control.

[@itslike123]

​@griffinemerson8475 😂 no one wants to control you relax. Just a more revenue for the gov, some people think the whole world is against them

[@Hey_Steve]

​@@itslike123 they sure do want to control you. look at how much you're taxed. why did they take away everyone's right to own a firearm and ban every other weapon? you do as they say and ain't nothing you can do about it.

[@CarlBland-tn1jo]

​@@itslike123never heard of the wef?

[@evanfinch4987]

lol what lever does this give to "control" you? its about the money

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

"He's been rushed to hospital 27 times". FFS What a selfish uncaring parent. If my child suffered like that and I truly believed it was a result of the quality of the air I am damned certain I would have moved to a more rural location.

[@priscillaroberts7945]

And where do they get the money? Costs money to move and in rural areas there aren't the jobs. Ditch the cars ,walk cycle use the public transport . Put tax on aircraft fuel and ban short haul flights that can be reached by train.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@priscillaroberts7945 You feel free to ditch your car. Will make the roads clearer for my Rolls Royce to glide down.

[@priscillaroberts7945]

@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne well actually as 90% + of rollers built are still in working order and the most polluting time in a cars life is during it's manufacture that isn't as selfish and nasty a proposition as you probably meant it to be.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@priscillaroberts7945 My RR Ghost is very efficient. It regularly returns 28mpg on a run. Alas only 9mpg around town, but hey ho.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@priscillaroberts7945 If global warming truly is killing us, then there is no excuse for not banning all private cars and making public transport free. But they don't, so I am left with no choice but to believe it's all a load of roblox. A money grabbing, 'control the people' exercise. I won't conform. Just like I refused a vaccine....

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

ULEZ is the first step. Once more cameras are installed under ULEZ they will introduce Pay Per Mile.

[@ScottyDog345]

They need choosing down then

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@Craig121000 Why? We use our cars to get to work and once in a while for a holiday. Cars are already expensive to own. Why force more people into unemployment and benefits?

[@ATRenault]

shut up green party tw@@@Craig121000

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@Craig121000 good trolling mate

[@Davserban]

​@grimgoreironhide9985 take public transport. There are too many cars on the road it's not hard to see there is a lot of sense to this policy which aims to stop the environment from being ruined rapidly by some fat yobs who want to drive a car.

[@mr.rodriguez5099]

Millions of Londoners travel every day by tube which is a proven gas chamber...but TFL is worried about your health only above the ground 😂

[@davidcolin6519]

"A proven gas chamber" If you say so. So prove it. PROVide the evidence.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Tfl also allow hundreds of people to stand up on their vehicles while everyone else has to sit down and strap in. If the uk stand by seat belts then it should be for everyone. How dare they break the rules to suit their pockets. It's all about money.

[@Mimix476]

People don’t live on the tube. You might spend one hour per day or less, unlike when you are on the street, or even at home. What a stupid “argument”.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

@MM-zj6cr I don't think you understood the argument. The air quality is OK and has been getting better consistently since the 60s. Modern cars ad little to air pollution. The same government using us as cash cows are allowing a 5th runway at Heathrow. How much air pollution do planes produce compared to cars?

[@davidcolin6519]

@@motorcyclerescuer Unfortunately, although modern cars do produce far less pollution, they do still produce a lot. That is why EVs are still, even when you take into account the increased pollution during production, far, far better for the the planet, for your environment and for you. Also worth pointing out that, in spite of motorbikes being pretty terrible at polluting, they're still way better than any car because they don't get stuck in traffic jams.

[@samdavidson6483]

The lady and her son need to move out of london. There's only been 1 death that was caused by air pollution. If she's expecting all of the capital city to change for her kids needs. I'm sorry she's being completely unrealistic. You chose to live in London, madam. You should be have your child removed by social services. Plus you should be prosecuted for neglect !

[@gilliandavies2142]

I'm sorry but that's unlikely to help. My mother lived in London all her life & only developed asthma on a trip to Devon due to rapeseed harvesting. I've had severe asthma for 40yrs & that poor little boy is almost certainly triggered by lots of different things. I've checked air quality regularly since before all this and it's consistently Good except occasional spikes round incinerators, but tackling them costs money instead of raking it in from the same source all the time

[@samdavidson6483]

@@gilliandavies2142 Well in that case the mother of this child needs to shut up and deal with it. She needs to except the fate of her child sorry the whole country can't grind to a halt for a small group of people, only 1 person has been proven to die as a result of air pollution !

[@garnhamr]

just seems to be an obsession for crushing people financially

[@ishanperusinghe]

It’s like they know people are finding it tough . So let’s give out the boot in while they down also . This government have lost touch with the people

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

The (fake) royal family despises 'commoners' and the new (fake) king has vowed to rule with an iron fist over a poorly educated population.

[@quackcement]

@@ishanperusinghe banning the sale of New diesel passenger cars makes more sense.

[@chevchelios8582]

They weren’t joking when they said ‘you will own nothing and be happy’.

[@DEVRIMCI2007]

So asthma is increasing in London, and you think this is a good thing?

[@belkentens]

Quick… Roll out the asthmatic kid to ramp up the emotion and sell the message

[@chrissilver7719]

Could have used some oldie with COPD but then you would have dismissed them as well.

[@SlayerEddyTV]

And why not. Air pollution isn't just the cause behind children having difficulty breathing, its also linked to cancer and many other health conditions. Air pollution is a very important issue that needs to sorted. Admittedly ULEZ isn't very well thought out policy, and more help should be offered to those who need to get a cleaner vehicle.

[@davidbarlow350]

@@chrissilver7719 Take a look at how many died from the smog in the 1950s,and then try telling me how you can justify ULEX with the air quality now better than ever.

[@davidcolin6519]

@@davidbarlow350 Air quality in central London has improved by 50%... since the introduction of the ULEZ, you numbnuts. What? you think that pollution is only what you can see? I remember working outside in the middle of London in the 90s, long after the Clean Air Acts. I didn't use cotton hankies at that time because I'd have had to throw every single one of them away. I can spend a whole day in the centre of London these days and don't have that problem. OTOH, I recently spent a day in a friend's GARDEN, at least 500m from a major road outside of London's ULEZ. It brought all those memories flooding back.

[@chrissilver7719]

@@davidbarlow350 the air quality isn't better and there are more issues from pollution than ever . Where do you get this nonsense from ?

[@matthewjenkins1161]

How can a mother blame traffic for her son's 27 hospital admissions, and still be resident in the same place? And when her son carries on with medical issues after the ULEZ fails to alter air quality, will she admit she was wrong and start acting in her son's best interests?

[@1gerard47]

She should move if she cares about her son.

[@Cloppa2000]

And she probably takes him to hospital on the underground.. because as we all know, the air quality pollution down there doesn't affect anyone at all according to The Khant!

[@keanuregan4525]

I agree

[@caeroeth-anoeth2222]

The previous extension didn't improve air quality. Sad for the mother, but the likelihood is that she's blaming her son's asthma on the wrong thing.

[@lukemorgan6166]

Sounds like a parasite of the benefits system

[@garrybowers414]

How can they push ULEZ when there are six airports close to London ??

[@P-qk2tz]

We'll get around to those as well.

[@jimp1646]

An independent report has already shown that the air above ground level in outer London is already clean. Journalists should be asking how does the polluted air on the London Underground affect peoples health and why isn't the Mayor making it a priority to clean the air on the London Underground?

[@NordicHebrew]

Obviously because this is only about taking away freedom of movement while collecting more taxes/theft

[@Colin623]

If that lady was so concerned about her son's health why doesn't she do the right thing for his health and move out of London ! How many Taxi's and buses spew diesel fumes in the greater london area ? these vehicles are running 24/7 spewing poisons out, far more than the average commuter would ever do !

[@Ukamb]

its all about making monies

[@fatherprincipal]

Help me understand so if this kid who is dying because of air pollution how will ulez stop him from dying. We are still going to pay the £12.50 and he will still die the only difference now is we are paying £12.50.

[@davidcolin6519]

If your car is old enough for you to pay the charge (BTW, check the actual age of cars that come under the scheme) and you insist on still paying the charge rather than replacing your pre-2007 petrol of pre-2016 diesel, then the charge will go towards improving the infrastructure for others who aren't completely psychotic Jeremy Hunts. And if the kid dies, it'll still make the RotW feel better because completely psychotic Jeremy Hunts like you, and while still being incurably stupid, will be paying to improve life for people who aren't Jeremy Hunts.

[@jonflude3451]

Agree. Surely if it’s that bad as a responsible parent you’d simply move away. Or am I delusional.

[@bobrail733]

Just another C**T KHAN plot to make even more MONEY for himself and CRONIES ,Bleeding London dry , 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@davidcolin6519]

@@jonflude3451 Not everybody has the luxury of being able to move away. And you also prove an equally valid point; that rich people should never be in positions of power because they are incapable of understanding the pressures of being poor are. It's not that you are psychotic (though I don't rule that option out) it is simply that you are incapable of understanding.

[@fatherprincipal]

@@jonflude3451 because I do have the £12.50 not the thousands to pay for complaint car. so if I really have to drive to Ealing the option for me is to pay £12.50 and not to spend thousands of pounds to pay for another car.

[@uttomnandi9064]

Ulez is a business propositions. New diesel cars are much safer now, this system is totally corrupted.

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

It is a climate change ideological measure which has an incidental effect on air pollution. If they really wanted to improve air quality diesels would be banned outright

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Any Diesel car from 2015 or newer doesn't have to pay because they meet the standards. It's only old vehicles that have to pay.

[@krob2327]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 yes. But what about pensioners who live in Kent who are now housebound as they can’t get to shops?

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

@@krob2327 Kent isn't in ulez. Some bits of Bromley near the border aren't even in it. If they live right near the border and drive a non compliant car they might have to drive to shops in Kent instead of shops in Bromley. Or they can take the bus. Or pay the charge. No one is housebound.

[@krob2327]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 so you want to socially cleanse London of people who can’t afford a new car or the charge. How very left wing. Whilst millionaires aren’t taxed more to cover scrap schemes. Fascinating Adrian. What a piece of work you are. And you always want to destroy the hairdressing business of the lady who’s now lost a customer. As sturgeon said labour used to be left wing. What’s the insult you want to hurl at me? As so many labour activists now understand your party despises lower income whites. One of khans main supported referred to those who use the tube as cattle and the rich are all that matter. They just didn’t realise they were filmed saying it. More to come on this

[@fredfred2363]

What's going to happen in a few years time once all the non-compliant cars have gone? TFL will need a new scheme to raise money...

[@Browndigs69]

Pay per mile coming to a town near you.

[@matthewjenkins1161]

Pay per mile is the probable future, though as a stop gap the goalposts may move. Today's compliant Euro 4 petrol and Euro 6 diesel become non-compliant.

[@kevinglennon2370]

It is called pay per mile Fred! It is why we have these cameras going up now under the ULEZ banner, it is just a blind so they have everything in place. Which is why we must encourage The Blade Runners to continue to do such a wonderful job!

[@hendrixinfinity3992]

What it's actually called is a healthier population. A healthier population is a more productive one and that stimulates the economy.

[@TROJANP]

Stop the ulez , do not vote labour and do not vote for khan as mayor

[@davidcolin6519]

ULEZ was BoJo's baby, you bozo. Get your facts straight before you make yourself look even more stupid.

[@stevejones2310]

I'm gonna be voting for clean air, so Khan's the man

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

Stop voting for asthma, heart attacks and strokes and especially stop imposing asthma on children. Such toxic entitlement.

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

Boris and Khan were not elected and they both work for the World Economic Forum.

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

It was Conservatives who introduced ULEZ. All political parties want this easy money grab.

[@mikecollins8936]

The obvious first step is to turn off the air con in the houses of parliament, followed by the cookers. MP's can eat raw veg and fruit. No MP shall be allowed to arrive at H of P by car. MP's primary place of employment is their constituency office and if they are unable to settle issues via the internet they may travel to London by std class rail and stay in a bunk room. No alcohol will be served in H of P because the fermentation process produces CO2.

[@boblordylordyhowie]

When the council puts a pollution monitor next to a junction with traffic lights they are in essence blaming themselves for higher taxes. Of course the pollution monitors will hum next to a place where vehicles are stuck putting out fumes, but that is not to say the rest of the area isn't clean, in fact they probably are. It is a con at the highest level, a way to get high numbers to allow them to tax us further. It' s bit like the plastic pollution problem, it isn't the plastics industry fault, it is our fault for being lazy and irresponsible.

[@P-qk2tz]

Well they probably put pollution monitors everywhere. You only notice the ones by the junctions because you're stood still, looking around.

[@liamp1994]

So a place where the pollution monitor is recording a max figure is not realistic? This seems like a bit of silly thing to say, the maximum pollution will correspond to places where lots of vehicles are located and stood still, therefore a junctions monitor would be very useful. That pollution level will cause health effects corresponding to the levels in that place. Soooo yeah , measuring locations with higher than average pollution is going to tell you where and how severe it is. Pollution is generated and spreads about due to weather, geography and how much is emitted at a time. Somewhere like oxford street will always be higher than usual, therefore pedestrians, residents and employees based there will be subject to harmful air constantly.

[@gareth449]

If you can`t drive your car in The ULEZ zone , you should not have to pay your road tax

[@davidcolin6519]

Why? Because you're not going to use any other roads in the UK? THAT makes sense! Just like all the rest of the ICE BS I read, all the f*cking time.

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

Road tax has always been unlawful.

[@ne-ht4zx]

@@JohnSmith-fz1wh 🤡

[@guymtbski]

Just like the temporary dartford tunnel charge that never ended - this is a great scheme to make 1bn for TFL. Tesla drivers you will pay for this eventually just like the 165 road tax charge starting in 2025. Dystopia is coming but that's okay, it's green.

[@gth1985]

They pay in car insurance 😂

[@davidcolin6519]

@@gth1985 And save far more on maintenance🤣🤣🤣🤣. No great fan of Teslas, but the argument is truly rubbish.

[@davidcolin6519]

If you insist on voting for governments that con you into selling off every public service... and that those public services then MUST, legally, make money, then you really have only yourselves to blame.

[@hylily3661]

TfL does not collect tolls for the Dartford Crossing - please try and get your facts straight before you make these claims.

[@guymtbski]

@@hylily3661 didn't claim that you dummy. The point being Dartford charges was meant to be just to fund the bridge but now where does the money actually go - Department for Transport. This is nothing to do with pollution, like a bridge, it's to do with funding TFL.

[@SupramanTRD]

Here's the thing, ULEZ doesn't reduce emissions, or provide cleaner air. Current drivers still have to drive the same routes regardless. So nothing will change aside from their bank accounts. Making this a tax.

[@b0rg1010]

It'll end up in utter chaos and corruption. The government is completely responsible and needs to be held accountable. This is all by design but lets be honest here, since when have they ever listened, they'll do what they always do and line their own pockets.

[@AndreMonthy]

I have asthma, was hospitalized when I was younger. Often times my asthma would get worse in the countryside, not in london. There is no proof that london "pollution" makes asthma worse. If you have severe asthma you could get an attack regarldless of the "pollution". ULEZ is a regressive tax on the poorest instituted by Labour, who are apparently meant to care about the poorest.

[@KyrilPG]

Pollution impacts asthma a lot. You're simply more sensitive to countryside irritants. Usually the "everyday" pollution is one of the main underlying causes of asthma while "exceptional" pollution acts as trigger for asthma attacks. City people often get their asthma triggered in the countryside but the underlying condition is often caused by everyday pollution. Just like high cholesterol can set the stage for a heart attack while a stress peak can be the trigger. Combustion engines' pollution affects health widely and gravely, from cardiovascular, to skin and lung diseases. The problem with ULEZ in the UK seems to be the way they are implemented, not their existence. In other countries it's a simple ban of most polluting cars (following a stricter and stricter ranking) and motorists that do not comply get fined, not charged. You could be fined and asked to immediately leave the low emission zone. It's not a tax or a fare, it is a fine. It looks very similar but the idea is a lot more egalitarian than the fare or charge system. Those that are wealthy and could easily afford a clean car but chose not to would be treated more harshly. It's not a right to pollute, it's a fine for an offense, the fine does not give you the right to continue driving for the day in the area. And of course in other countries there are a number of "waivers", like for PRM vehicles, emergencies, specific cases or exceptional uses. Combustion engines' pollution kills thousands and thousands of people every year. Health shouldn't even be a matter of debate. Health affecting air pollution must reduce one way or another, and fast. Financial aid and incentives for new clean vehicles should be increased but, above all, good public transportation alternatives should be offered and bike incentives put in place. In certain cities, you can find plumbers or electricians riding cargo e-bikes and no longer their heavily polluting vans. As for the vast majority of their appointments they don't need more than what's in their cargo e-bike. That's an example among many. If you have a better idea to quickly and drastically reduce pollution and toxic particules in cities, feel free to tell us. In the meantime, low emission zones are the only feasible way of reducing local pollution known to date. But I'll agree that UK's implementation is probably the worst in Europe. It feels like a right to pollute for sale.

[@AndreMonthy]

@@KyrilPG the worst air quality is on the tube. taxing cars will have negligible impact on air quality but a huge effect on people freedom. proof -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGGUeJahe6qemc0

[@ascgazz]

Just because by some apparent medical miracle YOU weren’t affected by pollution (what a nutcase), there is overwhelming evidence to show it does affect us. Just because you close your eyes, doesn’t make it go away for the rest of us. Dipstick.

[@ascgazz]

Also, “a tax on the poorest”?? The poorest have cars now? Wow….

[@littlechestnutorchard]

I finally become unemployed At the prime age of 60 due to ULEZ. I used to work as an electrician with my trusty 19 years old VW Transporter which I looked her like apple of my eyes is useless. It is impossible for me to buy an electric van. scrappage scheme is a complete joke £2000 gets you nowhere . I could work another 6-7 years without burden on the society but unfortunately it is near impossible.

[@liamp1994]

The van scrappage scheme is £7000 to scrap, £6000 to retrofit with a newer engine. A 2016 VW transporter goes for about £9000 or £1000 where I live. A 2016 van will do 44pmg vs 2004 van doing about 33mpg. So your yearly fuel cost will go down 25%. Not sure how much you drive but lets say 10,000 miles a year (very low for a commercial van but just for indication), you would spend £2000 roughly at current diesel prices or about £1500 with the 2016 plate. Thats brilliant, if you do the scrap and purchase, you'd be out 2-3k straight away. It would take 6 years to pay it back from the fuel savings (obviously much faster if you actually drive more than 10k miles.) So ultimately Tfl are paying for you to be making profit just from helping to source a newer van. Obviously you said you're unemployed due to ULEZ, so I would pursue the scrappage scheme anyway if you are unemployed, sell the 19 year old van and keep the £7000.

[@HarleyFirestorm]

I am an ex Londoner with Asthma, not being funny but if her child health is so bad, then move out of the city, if that was my child I would, charging drivers £12.50 a day isn't going to solve the problem.

[@alextw1488]

Not being funny but if people love driving toxic cars so bad why don't move out? Bizarre you think cars be given priority over people.

[@HarleyFirestorm]

@@alextw1488 Not being funny but a lot of these cars are not and have only become toxic since Khan wants to tax people. And its not a case of people wanting to drive something toxic its about people who cant afford these ' non ' toxic cars. Any city will have more pollution levels, maybe not the best places to bring up kids with breathing problem eh.

[@DC3Refom]

​@@HarleyFirestormyep squeeze the poorest but they do not protest or kick off at the rich driving their range rovers round london or the pm , or millionaires / billionaires taking many helicopters trips over london. or their private jet flights , tax and charge the rich leave the poorest working class slon , they only trying to survive , these woke ideologists who get psid alot to do and say a group needs them to say needs sone sense knocking into them

[@BaybieK]

First they came for Euro 5 and earlier, next it will be Euro 6 and hybrids...

[@Steven-vo4ee]

EURO 4 petrol cars are compliant. You’re miss informed.

[@chevchelios8582]

For now. Next on the hit list for sure.

[@brasherish]

The lady who has been interviewed, has she noted, how many roads have been closed nearby forcing drivers to use that main road. The councils and in cahoots with TFL are creating the problem through increased congestion.

[@outlaw6421]

Exactly, they want the roads to run slower by putting in cycle lanes that they don't use

[@P-qk2tz]

​@@outlaw6421 Yeah, main roads that are actually designed to move traffic quicker. Locals don't want through traffic on their residential streets. Why do you think people elevate cul-de-sacs? The roads are much quieter and safer.

[@hendrixinfinity3992]

It's insane to me that people like you will support traditionalism but hate the idea of kids playing in the street.

[@hendrixinfinity3992]

@@outlaw6421 Stop driving through people's neighbourhoods and stick to the main roads to get to burger king.

[@brasherish]

@@hendrixinfinity3992 I hate to say this. But if you want kids to play, surely green spaces parks etc. are the answer.

[@cjstubejackofalltrade1551]

How will charging £12.50 clean the air? Ban all the diesel vehicle and show us the graph doctor 😂

[@danielwhyatt3278]

It’s meant to put people off using combustion vehicles as much as possible within these areas, obviously. It’s also meant to act more as an incentive to people who are being too lazy or stubborn and actually finally transition over to NEV. There are so many vehicle options out there now, with many financial and package deals now to make these more affordable or monthly payments that people just haven’t bothered looking up relying on previous assumptions. The money raised will very much go down most likely within the first 5 years according to even the governments own predictions as the eligible vehicles to be charged will go down. The money used is intended to pay for new charging points, as well as more clean infrastructure areas to make it easier for even more electric vehicles and public transport to access areas of the cities.

[@dannyBtech]

it will do nothing for the air , its designed to fund tfl either by people paying ulez or being forced on to public transport , these wankers like khan spout fake and false information about folk dying while cruising about in v8 range rovers its a complete con

[@jonflude3451]

@@danielwhyatt3278😂😂 oh dear. You fell for it didn’t you. Please get a grip on reality.

[@Isleofskye]

@@danielwhyatt3278 My friend is going to Scotland, next week, Daniel. IF he had an electric car then explain to me his filling up process over the 370 miles,please. At the moment he fills his tank up and stops once to refill. Over to you.

[@neilfoster814]

How does paying £12.50 per day turn into clean air? How exactly does that work? Can someone please explain to my uneducated brain please.

[@Jello836]

Money grab same as the LTNs that are completely illogical

[@LordSandwichII]

The scrappage scheme is useless if you live outside of London and have to commute in.

[@jeffrussell488]

Yep, gotta commute using the tube network that has very high levels of pollution.

[@bethanp3453]

​@@jeffrussell488Does it? Higher than overall emissions from every personal road vehicle on London roads. That's one smokey train network.

[@kamranraja9197]

What’s £2000 nothing news cost big money

[@mikeheasman2594]

The scheme just benefits those that can afford a brand new electric vehicle.

[@MPal24]

No-one "has" to commute into London using a car! London's one of the best connected cities in the world! Get the tube, train or bus.

[@guff9567]

Send Khan to oblivion

[@davidcolin6519]

Why? It was BoJo who insisted on the current expansion timetable? And it was Bojo who introduced London's ULEZ. Maybe you should check on who is to blame for this.

[@guff9567]

@@davidcolin6519 PAKISTAN

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

ULEZ is a reverse Robin Hood tax.

[@guronanak9218]

The problem is whether the scheme is prompted by a desire to reduce air pollution or to get poorer people of the road. If the scheme is to be fair, then every car should be tested on their actual emissions, and there should be a quota on how much pollution every car is allowed to emit before being taxed. It is ridiculous to think that an older car which is driven once or twice a week pollutes more tnan a newer car which is driven everyday. The whole thing doesn't make sense. @BrownCarGuy did a test and shows that there is no real need for it in Outer London and that the highest reading occur outside rail stations - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGGUeJahe6qemc0

[@chevchelios8582]

It’s not supposed to make sense. ULEZ is just a ruse to install the cameras and set the precedent for charging to use the roads without a huge backlash.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Why would they want to victimise poor people? That makes no sense. The aim is to encourage people who have very polluting cars to upgrade to a less polluting one, to improve air quality for everyone. The alternative would be to ban those cars completely, but that would be overly harsh for people who only occasionally or even just a one off want to drive into London. If someone only drives once a week then they only have to pay once per week. A perfectly fair scheme would cost too much to implement, and involve monitoring how far you drove which is the kind of invasion of privacy many of the protestors were complaining about with their signs. The scheme is a reasonable compromise, though I think there should be more help for people to upgrade to a less polluting car. Perhaps an interest free loan to pay for it so there is no upfront cost.

[@ChangesOneTim]

For vehicles three years old and over, the MoT test includes measuring emissions and checking that all as-built emission controls are still present.

[@ChangesOneTim]

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 You're right that victimising one in six Outer Londoners (many of whom no doubt inhabit the poorest households) "makes no sense", but that's exactly the outcome. No matter how well-meaning the scheme's aim may be, TfL/ Khan knew full well that alternative implementation options were available to soften the blow but chose not to. I can only assume that the choice was driven by a) earliest and largest possible revenue grab, b) scheme equipment and running costs paid back sooner, c) the need to get the thing in long enough before the next Mayoral election, and d) hope the howls of protest die down sufficiently so as not to damage Khan's reelection chances.

[@janechanning984]

​@@adrianthoroughgood1191You should be a politician....jokes aside, you have been watching and listening to the lying press. Media brain training makes you think you know it all. The truth will out soon enough. When your ability to go outside is curtailed by digital eyes watching you and shooting you down when people in power decide you can not go out and food is limited according to how high you will jump according to the nefarious wishes of the most evil people your dreams disable you from viewing. All the road works are not for pipelines etc. Nor are they for infrastructure. This is simply to let you know to look elsewhere for what is really going on.

[@Hipnosis65]

“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.” • Thomas Jefferson

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

Sure, asthmatics should join Just Stop Oil against the tyranny of air pollution.

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

@@JugglinJellyTake01 Just Stop Oil are a communist group committing crimes against the people.

[@nasally23]

Ulez =Pay to Pollute not clean air.

[@ne-ht4zx]

Christ. Do you even know what ULEZ is?

[@user-yi7pd6qz4q]

I mentioned this elsewhere, I cannot believe people votes the party who made them so poor they cannot afford a new car, or rent, or food....

[@Cactuspractice12]

brain rot largely due to years of murdoch press influence

[@LunchSays]

no one voted for this

[@user-yi7pd6qz4q]

@@licheong well... voting conservative so far did not do any good, did it??? In total fairness, labour is really not doing much, they don't have to, as Tories seem to do all the work digging themselves deeper and deeper....

[@alansalter1836]

This fool thinks that if everyone pays £12.50 it will clean the air

[@BrownCarGuy]

Thanks for featuring me in this video! And glad you got across some of the voices, thoughts and concerns of those affected by it.

[@davidbarlow350]

Yet they failed to mention your testing of the air quality.or the fact it was well within safety limits.

[@davidcolin6519]

@AmysHandDryers But how many people in those parts of London actually drive petrol engined cars that are more than 16 years old? How many people with diesel cars that are older than 7? You can even Sell your 8 y.o. diesel and get a 10 y.o. petrol and make some money AND you'll be saving on fuel prices. Which makes me wonder how many diesels there are in London nowadays that are more than 7 years old. I wouldn't mind betting that it is an incredibly small number. And if your car is that old, sell it. Get something a bit newer. Because ULEZs mean that your air quality will be 50% better. And with UK car prices as they are, you're really, really not going to be much worse off. I mean, seriously, how much is a 15 year old petrol car? £300? £200? And you think this is the sort of thing that will persuade people to vote Tory? When it was BORIS JOHNSON who introduced the London ULEZ and it was, would you believe BORIS JOHNSON who insisted that Sadiq Kahn roll it out faster than he wanted to? Don't get me wrong, Labour is in full support of ULEZs, but they are very definitely a f*cking TORY POLICY.

[@RankinMsP]

Sadly your views won't matter to kids who will suffer long after you have gone.

[@bugsygoo]

@@RankinMsPIf you just go about taxing the poor, you won't ever get a solution.

[@ludovician]

Out of curiosity, what is the vehicle you are so enamored with?

[@ChangesOneTim]

The outrage is not the principle of this scheme but the way that Khan chose to implement it. Even if there were no cost of living crisis, for a change of such magnitude to be fair there must be a couple of years' grace for those directly affected residents to change their vehicles, even if non-residents' polluting vehicles are charged straightaway. Instead, Khan chose to screw over 1 in 6 Outer London vehicle owners as from Day One. The Crappage scheme doesn't go nearly far enough and all it's done is distort the used car market with compliant vehicle prices made even less affordable. As it stands it's tantamount to a Poll Tax. Disgraceful behaviour.

[@mattmunds5973]

The stupid woman with the kids with Asthma she could move her child out of the city but no she won't do that she won't help her child who suffers with breathing she's part of the problem lieing on TV letshope social services get her kid away from his abusive mum forcing him to live in London

[@Fraz725]

Check your facts. The tory government insisted on these measures. It was a Tory scheme started by Boris Johnson and now successfully blamed on Labour.

[@amazer747]

The principle is that it was either in no election manifesto or hidden in the small print. The aim is not pollution control but people control as it will eventually be a pay per mile scheme whatever vehicle you use.

[@mrg-ghx8052]

Even my dog knows fhe score: 🐶 WEF WEF 🏴‍☠️👑💰

[@krob2327]

Khan let’s his hatred of lower income whites in Essex and Kent blind him on this one. He’s happy to hurt others to ‘get at’ them. I have the evidence. He’s overheard saying well nobody from Surrey drives a car that old the cameras are just window dressing.

[@MCorrigan]

I'm not going to be paying the ULEZ. There is a war in London against the motorist. Why? Because TfL has lost and continues to lose so much money, so they make driving in London very difficult. They close roads that don't need to he closed, they close lanes on A roads that don't need to he closed, causing more traffic to build up. This, they hope will make people think it's easier to use the tube than to drive. Lastly, when that doesn't work, they extend the ULEZ. Wake up. They want everyone in London using public transport and not driving so TfL can regain some sort of profit, so this ULEZ extension is just the beginning. The next targets are people who have ULEZ compliant cars.

[@MartynDuerden]

There are several answers. 1, Disable / damage the cameras 2, Refuse to pay 3, Stealth plates

[@Steven-vo4ee]

I drive a 20 year old petrol car, despite predating the standard its emissions are EURO 4 compliant and is free from the ULEZ charge. Anyone who can afford to drive, can afford a car like mine. People are misinformed and don’t bother using the website to see if their car is compliant or not, just jump on the anti ULEZ bandwagon.

[@AvidBeats]

Same here, our car is nearly 20 years old and is ULEZ compliant.

[@HarleyFirestorm]

Wait till its in full swing, they wont push the goal posts will they?....will they?.

[@martineyles]

My car is much newer and isn't compliant. Compliant diesel cars of the same size need to be less than about 10 years old (Euro 6, with Adblue) and cost at least £6000. I am dissapointed that the economy of my diesel appears no better than petrol. Perhaps I would have been better off getting a petrol car. Still, I live well outside Birmingham and don't qualify for scrappage, so I'll just keep my old diesel until it's too expensive to maintain. I do wish they would make it easier to pay and harder to forget to pay (adding toll booths might help) on theose rare occasions that I want to drive into Birmingham. I did forget once and am now petrified to drive into Birmingham again in case I forget. I got the train last time, but it was a real hassle and involved 2 taxis to my local station, took longer and probably cost more than paying the ULEZ at the normal rate, but I know that I will forget, as I have done it before. Still, new street station is horrid, and the cross country trains have a bit of a whiff to them, but the chiltern trains stop at moor street which is further from the centre.

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

ULEZ is a disguise to install more cameras for a far more financially destructive move against the motorists. Once the cameras are installed Pay Per Mile will be introduced on every car. Green or otherwise.

[@ljt3084]

You have 6 years of motoring before the legislation moves to Euro 6 rating.

[@FAS1948]

Most people have still not realised that the days of private cars are limited regardless of government policy because no-one can legislate against the laws of physics. I do not expect anyone to believe that, but all we need to do is wait to find out who was right.

[@Isleofskye]

Same Time.Same KZbin Channel, in around 200 years, then. I will diarise it for 3rd September 2223 ..

[@renevandam2757]

Bollox mate

[@autisticrebel1253]

The thing about cars being more than objects is true, my mum and dad's Volkswagen Beetle from 1999 is about 23 or 24 years old and the car is part of the family.

[@imopman]

Well done to the Blade Runners, serving the community one camera at a time!

[@greenhornet5186]

I recently visited London from America. I was there 20 years ago. The air quality is very clean, except for The Tube. Tell Sadistic Kahn to clean the underground, and tell him and his cronies to pay the ULEZ fee and omit it from the general public.

[@britbazza3568]

Funny thing is what your saying is absolutely correct. Not sure if you know this especially if your American. But all USA Embassy cars in the UK do not pay a penny in connjestion or Ulez charges at the moment. The reason being all these vehicles claim they don't have to pay a penny in tax because they have Diplomatic Immunity. I presume it's the same with all other Embassy staff of energy other Embassy in London

[@ne-ht4zx]

@@britbazza3568 The US embassy is particularly scummy when it comes to paying their way in London

[@jasonannesley5889]

Sadiq's in cloud cuckoo land. He's absolutely off his rocker.

[@georgerubypoppy1063]

Does that mean that Boris Johnson who, when Mayor of London, first approved ULEZ is off his rocker too?

[@georgerubypoppy1063]

@@Ilovetohaveachangenowandagain Yes, you and I recognise this, many don`t.

[@lukemorgan6166]

You will comply You will pay the fines You will change to electrical vehicles You will do nothing about it You will be happy

[@stevesmith3990]

The air pollution from cars must be the cleanest its ever been. This is madness and a war on the less well off by the Labour Party who no longer stands up for them but looks down on and belittles them.

[@SeanBainbridge-ky1mw]

Get Khan out!

[@davidbarlow350]

Very selective reporting,i also noticed the cartoon car going from London to Manchester spewing out smoke. Also not reported was Brown Car Guy's testing of the air quality and finding it well within safety limits both inside and outside the existing ULEZ zone. One sided reporting ,so no surprise there.

[@grahambell4298]

Indeed. Brown Car Guy's measurements showed the only dangerous levels came from London Underground. And who's responsible for that? Khan!

[@az..0N3]

So true 👍 air quality in London Underground (tube) is for worse - so when is the mayor going to start paying the commuters a subsidy each it is used?

[@spanishjohn420]

the only people that love them are people that dont drive

[@stevenginnever5343]

The government can stop Scotland voting for independence, but can't stop a London mayor from implementing a extortionate fee. ?

[@nickybrooks6942]

I went and spent 5 days in london with a freind 40 years ago , I lived in a small town in north devon. I totally passed out and was taken to hospital after spending just 30 minutes waiting at a bus station. Compared to the air quality off rural places london is toxic but because the people there live with it daily they dont realise it.

[@guronanak9218]

You said a bus station, which means diesel particulates in poorly vented stations with lots of buses, with some idling. The particulate emissions of buses have dropped from 40 years ago and diesel is being phased out in London buses if it hasn't been already. You should also realize that outer London is not the same as Inner London and many of these areas have a lower density of traffic as well. Some of these areas can be quite rural.

[@SaulidSnake]

Imagine if you used the underground…

[@clubsport_46330]

40 years ago, not today

[@dannyhouse5630]

Pollution is because of few Plant-life + trees 🌳? All car's built in 5-10year's are eco friendly? I against net zero regulations 100% because it's does not stop climate change + only a pointless taxes. Alot people need to look up the information. Alot bad health is are down lifestyle + bad building designed for Kid's + older people + fitness + bad foundation for uk cities people.

[@easyonenow]

Its amazing there are any people left in London. 😂😂😂

[@Hambo04]

Words fail me when it comes to Sadiq Khan, absolutely beggers belief. Labour used to be for the working class, but i can't believe the misery he will cause to ordinary Londoners as well as local businesses all under the guise of "clean air". Money grab pure and simple.

[@davidcolin6519]

Well, it beggArs belief that you wouldn't even bother to check how many cars in London are not compliant (1%), or even bother to check how many of the media's absurd claims are true (seriously? the only cars that will be compliant cost over £6k they don-t seem to be aware that normal people don-t tend to drive around in Beemers). But if it makes you feel better; I really hope that the Tories are doing you proud. That ULEZs were a Tory policy, and Sadiq Kahn's rollout of the policy was forced by those Tories seems to have gone unnoticed by the Tory press... and completely unchecked by you.

[@Hambo04]

@@davidcolin6519 your completely deluded. You need to check your facts.

[@MeWantHoneycomb]

a couple of these vans got bombed lol. keep up the good fight people. your goal is to eventually kick out the people in govt and form a new one, devoid of anyone associated with freemasonry or the old system. no more small hats!

[@benconnolly4258]

How can the air in London be dirtier now than 2003, car engines have never been cleaner, most have stop start technology or have mild hybrid technology. Absolutely disgusting and I don’t even live in London.✌

[@stephenbanyar1874]

The hybrid technology just pollutes somewhere else, far away from your home.

[@motorcyclerescuer]

Its shocking really. Fine after fine after fine. So many sneaky tactics to take our money. If roads aren't allowed to be driven down then block them of. Dont leave them open and put a camera up. The 20 mph speed limits are terrible. Why stop freedom of movement because a few people can't cross the road safely. Why not educate about road crossings or implement J walking. Ulez Congestion charge £9 a hour to park in local Boroughs We have to sit down and wear seat belts in vehicals yet TFL allow you to stand up with no belts because it suits their pockets. Bus lanes are now no drive zones even outside of peak hours. Cycle lanes the size of bus lanes I can go on and on. But i will only be voting the people who will be minimising this rubbish.

[@mesfindave6232]

Spot on

[@mosaloquendo]

How about getting a train, a bus or cycling? More efficient than driving above the speed limit without wearing a seat belt

[@motorcyclerescuer]

@@mosaloquendo I love personal vehicles, cars, motorcycles etc. I love the freedom, the control, the personal space. This is what's being taken away.

[@mypradasatthecleanerss]

So you could cycle?

[@motorcyclerescuer]

@cormacedauty I don't want to cycle, i want to access my right to use a powered vehicle which has been my right for 38 years.

[@s.wilson5675]

"My son is so sick, BUT I insist on living in an area that causes it!" You couldn't make it up!

[@hawky2k215]

Then move it not hard! Go and live in an countryside for a change as it'll be less dirty air there

[@HappySlapperKid]

I know right.. what a terrible mother

[@danielcollinson4456]

​@hawky2k215 yes just move to the country. Like its that simple you muppet

[@wavydavy9816]

It's not a war against motorists, it's an effort to exclude _non-rich_ people from driving their own vehicles. They should all use the cattle transportation services provided instead.

[@krob2327]

Wow. Are you being sarcastic? Or jewish?

[@thomHD]

There's scarcely a city in Britain that wouldn't benefit from having fewer cars, while public transport is stuck in a self fulfilling prophecy. Those who disagree need to book a week in Singapore or Tokyo to see what the alternative reality can be.

[@stevenwreyford4570]

ULEZ is not going to fix our filthy, crappy, overpriced stuck public transport, nor is it going to reduce number of cars. Cities in UK are not Singapore or Tokyo - what on earth is the relevance? The discussion you want to have is not related to ULEZ at all.

[@thomHD]

@@stevenwreyford4570 The relevance is that better public transport is possible - take your pick almost any developed nation besides the USA. And the point is that it tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy - those with the most disdain for trains and buses tend to turn their back on it and vote Tory so that, sure, things never change.

[@stevenwreyford4570]

@@thomHD Better public transport would be nice, but just using your Singapore and Tokyo example, look at what the value they get in relation to us. Ours is filthy, overpriced and in some instances downright dangerous. Have you seen the traffic jams in Singapore and Tokyo in spite of having better transport? I appreciate your positivity, but UK really should be focusing on crime, illegal immigration, government waste - ridiculous projects HS2. Our car problems in cities is the least of our problems and I get frustrated that a non problem like the 'toxic air' takes priority in everyone's minds...

[@thomHD]

@stevenwreyford4570 You have sort of crystallised what I am saying. On the one hand, you disdain the state of our old underfunded public transport, while on the other hand you are against projects like HS2. The Elizabeth Line has been a huge improvement, also. In terms of illegal immigration, those obsessed with this topic ought to spend more time considering *emigration* - how many British born citizens have left the country over the decades each year to go to the the EU, commonwealth nations, HK or Singapore etc precisely because they seek better metropolitan living. Crumbling Victorian infrastructure drives emigration; immigration plugs the gap.

[@britbazza3568]

This ULEZ zone and all road Chrging is actually illegal under the UK's Right to Roam Act and under the Drovers Act of Parliament. The Right to Roam and Drovers laws also date back to pre Roman times within the uk. This was because everyone has the right to access all public highway without levy or interference from anyone hence why Ramblers can walk any public path or highway without molestation from authorities. So the Great British Public need to vote with their feet so to speak and not pay these illegal charges on mass The exact same thing was done to Maggie Thatcher when she pushed through the poll tax in the early 1990s there were the poll tax riots.. within weeks the poll tax was scrapped

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Keep dreaming

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@Steven-vo4eeWhy?

[@britbazza3568]

@@Ilovetohaveachangenowandagain they can't change them those laws are all enshrined in Common Law. Parliament works under Admiralty Law or otherwise known as Statute Law effectively stopping it from Changing Common Law because Parliament doesn't have the authority to change Common Law that is the job of the Monarchy and the people

[@jamessmith84240]

4:02 If your kid has such serious asthma he needed to be rushed to hospital 27 times don't you think you should have moved house away from the pollution by now?

[@Brrain95]

Why would you trade in a £20k car for what's offered on the Scrappage Scheme?

[@MemesnShet]

If they take such drastic measures they should at least give significant discounts on less polluting more modern vehicles at the same time,not just push more fines in the middle of the cost of living crisis

[@nowsheenanwar291]

These protesters do know that if there was a conservative mayor of London, they had plans to introduce this as well

[@simonelsey]

would have had the same protests

[@nowsheenanwar291]

@@simonelsey only difference would be that the conservatives would try to ban it

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

All politicians are "in it together" and people who vote are laughed at by these parasites.

[@ne-ht4zx]

These protesters are clowns. Many don't actually know what ULEZ is, they've just been whipped into a frenzy by the media

[@glitteryball]

Susan Hall the mayoral Tory candidate will stop the Ulez expansion on day 1 of her appointment and will not introduce pay per mile either.

[@paulhewitt5198]

Its all about effing money!!!

[@jamesmcardle1494]

The rich whant the roads for them,, we can't afford to live in London, or drive in it.

[@emsik185]

is UK's high court CORRUPTED? 😮

[@bentullett6068]

How much money is TFL paying to run tube trains as they seem to be the largest polluters emissions wise judging by many tests of air quality. The black grime you see in parts of the tube is what is going into peoples respiratory systems on a daily basis and what is in that black dust is worse than what is coming out of a exhaust system on a vehicle. Asbestos is one of those particulates usually from the brake pads on the train. Also are the airline companies going to be paying £12.50 each time they fly aircraft over london to city airport or into Heathrow.

[@ThePolaroid669]

Rubbish. The black dust is carbon dust from the electric brush motors. Asbestos hasn't been used in brake linings for at least 20 years.

[@fredfred2363]

700,000 non compliant vehicles in London? Is it really that many?

[@Steven-vo4ee]

No

[@HdHd-hp6qz]

That 700000 are poor working class and elderly. That’s the problem. Sadiq is kicking the working class while they are already down with the cost of living crisis mortgage interest rises wages staying the same. It’s a very big problem.

[@markrainford1219]

If my child had severe asthma, I would move away from main roads.

[@paulshillito7162]

Remember the torys started this 16 year war on cars

[@davidcolin6519]

Seriously, it is difficult to find such a set of unintelligent, ill-educated and misinformed set of comments on any given subject outside of the English speaking developed world. I am seriously depressed at the level of public discourse being used in UK politics these days.

[@tobefree3718]

Agreed. Both in the video and here. The self centred positions those interviewed hold regarding a collective issue was Staggering.

[@belkentens]

Hmm… yes We’re so clever aren’t we… Yes.. I love you

[@Truthseeker1515]

Cattle ovens.

[@nothingmuch.3014]

The aim of all of this is to restrict the free movement of the public.

[@AG-kb7yb]

So you can only find it inside the English speaking developed world? 🤡

[@patdarby2705]

People who are against ULEZ will still vote in parties that will impose it on them, if not now, then certainly after the next election. These parties being Conservative, Labour, Liberal, Greens etc. They are all on.the same side, the only difference being the lies and extremes they go to to deceive you into believing they're not.

[@steve5022]

Great job Kahn, no chance now of a Labour government for at least 10 years.

[@alancheng9021]

Wilko , Debenhams , Topshop ,Home base , bank and many many shops gone ....due to this radiculose Ullezz!!!

[@SCP--ck5ip]

The people who hate ULEZ seem mostly middle class pensioners And that disabled person in a wheelchair clearly hasnt heard of a bus, or a train, or a tram, or a metro It's not rich kids dying from asthma because of pollution, it's the poor.

[@martineyles]

Not everywhere has good public transport.

[@SCP--ck5ip]

@@martineyles Then why doesn't it? Why don't we address that instead of allowing children to die? You think ULEZ is terrible, then tell me that those suffering children are worth it so Sarah can drive her SUV, tell me those choking on emissions are not worthy of help because one person who won't take a bus complained.

[@belkentens]

@@SCP--ck5ip Congratulations You’ve really swallowed everything they spoon fed you in this ‘story’

[@stoicpoetry]

@@SCP--ck5ip uh huh Yeah again not everywhere has good public transportation

[@SlayerEddyTV]

I don't know what its like where that man in a wheelchair lives but where I live I have never seen someone who uses a wheelchair go on a bus, yes on a train but never on bus.

[@lint8391]

As for that GP saying that there's a link between higher levels of pollution and A&E and GP appointments - surely it's possible that it's a conicidental link and not a causal link. EG higher pollution in poorer areas. With poverty being linked to worse health on average. Or weather conditions being hot at times of higher pollution. With it being the heat that's the cause of higher admissions. ....And the most polluted place in London is in the Underground. Run by TFL, the same organisation responsible for ULEZ. How about TFL addressing the pollution in its' own house first. And surely the Mayor of London should be a servant of the people and the people shouldn't be a servant to him?

[@Tialano]

Yes exactly. In the same way that the is a clear link between the amount of sun cream sold in an area and the amount of shark attacks there are in an area. Just because you see a correlation does not automatically mean they are cause and effect. Khan's analysis has been commissioned purely to support the ULEZ expansion. The expectation of results has already been set and they will now look for ANYTHING to corroborate the hypothesis.

[@gamezdude5544]

Hello, social economic peasant here. I am on minimum wage and have a non-compliant car I got for cheap. It is a very old model, but it is all I can afford. I am now having to work around 1.5hrs, just to pay the tax to get to work. Minimum hourly wage after tax is around £8/hr. Effectively, I am being punished because I am poor. I cannot afford a new car, and now I need to work 1.5hrs for the privilege of earning the rest of my daily wage.

[@DrPizza-mn6kk]

"In the face of oppressive laws, resistance becomes our moral obligation."

[@tobyjackman3212]

My partner & I are both proud to drive decent, well maintained petrol cars over 20 years old. Whilst I sympathise with the notion of these schemes, I'm never convinced of the science. Presumably the objective of them is to brow beat us into scrapping both cars (clearly resulting in huge carbon emissions) & buying brand new electric vehicles - once again coming with their own reasonably hefty carbon emission tags (& incidentally way out of our financial reach). Also nobody seems to mention the ticking environmental timebomb that involves disposal of the batteries (each containing poisonous substances) that... nobody's figured out yet. So really the only impact ULEZ has on us is that we no longer spend any tourism pounds in cities like Bath & Bristol (both of which we love) because we are simply not welcome any more. In my opinion all of the time, money & effort spent on ULEZ schemes would be better spent on renationalising Britain's god awful rail network so that we could afford train travel. But the respective city councils wouldn't be on the take then, would they?

[@hylily3661]

You can provide carrots e.g. investing in public transport, which needs to be done. However, you also need the stick at some point to stop people driving. The only way to reduce the number of cars is by making it more convenient to use other modes.

[@Adam-oc6pq]

Batteries can be recycled, the future of your kids cannot.

[@tobyjackman3212]

@@Adam-oc6pq If you want to read my comment then kind of part of my point is that these batteries _can't_ be recycled

[@martineyles]

Residents need to be able to afford a compiant vehicle of a similar size to their own. A compliant family car costs about £6,000, so the scrappage scheme needs to offer about £6,000. The signs are not sufficient to warn non-residents, so their needs to be a way of making it clearer and easier to pay the charge. I would suggest making it possible to pay in all car parks within the zone, and some just outside (where you're likely to have driven through the zone), with the machines being able to check whether you need to pay. Alternatively, toll booths could be placed on entry or exit to the zone. If these aren't deemed practical, an invoice should be posted out, with a reasonable 28 day payment term to those who drive in the zone. Only after this should fines be applied. ULEZ can be a good thing, but only if it's implemented properly.

[@davidbarlow350]

Line up with the rest of the sheep,why don't you,

[@dannyBtech]

can you explain how ulez can be a good thing ?? i dont see how charging an unfair tax on motorists is fair at all ... all combustion engines emit fumes ... a compliant car if driven more can be worse then a non compliant car thats driven less . by the way hes using a made up statstic from emporal college study that said 4000 people could be dying prematurely by around 2 weeks , its a con

[@davidcolin6519]

WTF are you talking about? A compliant vehicle is a petrol vehicle registered after 2005, or a diesel registered after 2015. Maybe I am a bit off with the dates, I don't live in the UK, but I am VERY familiar with the BS and lies being spread by the party that introduced London's ULEZ, which was the TORIES. Isn't it curious that those same Tories help fund scrapple schemes in other ULEZs, but make absolutely no contribution to London's? So, what's the lesson to be learnt here? Is it that London doesn't want or need an expansion of the ULEZ scheme? Or is it that the Tories lie about absolutely EVERYTHING, and end up blaming everybody and anybody for their own f*ckups? If the above question is difficult for you, you haven't been paying attention to the UK government since... oh, I don't know...2011?

[@martineyles]

@@dannyBtech Nitrous Oxide is know to be toxic. The way I suggest running the scheme would not be a tax on local residents who need to drive by virtue of allowing those with non-compliant vehicles to afford newer compliant vehicles. It's probable that this would need higher general taxation, but that can be targeted at people on similar wages to the Mayors, MPs and others bringing in these changes rather than on ordinary people.

[@dannyBtech]

@@martineyles can you read my comment again and tell me how ulez can be a good thing .... what proof do you have that there is problems with the air quality

[@amazer747]

The guy's right: Forget voting Labour or Lib Dem ever again. Actually, don't vote Tory either. Be brave, be bold, vote for independents or one of the minor parties like Reform. They can't make any more of a mess than we are in today.

[@lillianmayne]

They're talking rubbish children were dieing before oil came out with chest infections tubercles and older people they've still dieing because houses damp mould and other stuff inside the walls It's not all to do with oil this rubbish

[@Secretsanta182]

How would this work if you run your diesel car on HVO which is 90% cleaner than regular. Your vehicle would still show as non compliant…

[@matthewjenkins1161]

Yes it would.

[@trebo2348]

don't worry kahn goes round in a v8 etc.. flys in private jets... its all a scam for another tax.

[@TruthTortoise81]

why does everyone against ULEZ sound like a mong?

[@SCP--ck5ip]

Because they probably are, the only reason to go against it is it costs those with child murdering SUVs more

[@belkentens]

Yes Like they cherry picked who they featured to make it look like people who are against ulez are stupid and people who support it are loving parents with asthmatic kids

[@donaldduck5731]

Mongs need to drive big polluting SUV’s, it makes them feel successful and important in a world where they’ve failed at most things, have low skill jobs and done nothing of value in society.

[@DreamTheSpirits]

yet again this is how you peacefully protest! nobody's day ruined and still get media coverage.

[@Iranian.Shia-kurd]

Is the PM an Indian?

[@cetGT3]

Yes

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

He is an unlawful PM.

[@cjreeve79]

Make polluters pay

[@danielwhyatt3278]

Exactly

[@jonflude3451]

Keeping me dirty diesel. Didn’t they tell us to buy diesel??

[@cjreeve79]

@@jonflude3451 you should have asked me. I would have told you to go electric or transition to a car free life as I have done. We've known for years about pollution. How old is your vehicle?

[@cjreeve79]

@@jonflude3451 polluting diesel vehicles have been making the news for at least 15 years. It was a hot topic during the run-up to the Olympics. How old is your smoke machine?

[@airingcupboard]

Last I came to London, the air quality was appalling. I remember when I lived there, the first time the congestion charge was brought in and it was super quiet and then numbers just recovered. The problem with the UK is that it needs to change, but never does. Good on Sadiq. The traffic issues are a blight on the city.

[@alfieaolomons6560]

Please take your half-hearted opinion and gently shovel it up your back side and go away.

[@SaulidSnake]

Central London is mostly commercial traffic now hence why from the outside the congestion charge looks like failure.

[@airingcupboard]

@@SaulidSnake There were plenty of private cars.

[@SaulidSnake]

@@airingcupboard not according to TFL.

[@bigdogcash]

Use pellet guns, BB guns, paintball guns, slingshots, throw rocks, use lasers, stickers, spray foam. Yeah, use extender poles. Use those long limb saws, they have clippers on them which you can use to cut cables. Duct tape a hammer to a pole and smash it. Stay creative people! We can always find another counter tactic for whatever they do.

[@CrazyWabbit]

If everyone just stopped paying their taxes, rates and so on, the point would get across very quickly. The UK public are being held to ransom at every turn and there will be a breaking point which may not be that far away. Not everyone is getting over £100k/year and it seems like the lower wage earners are in an almost modern day slavery situation. Many people work long hours for a rubbish wage or they need to work 2 or 3 jobs just to scrape by and they dont get a chance to train up on anything because they either dont have the time or they still cant afford it and yet we have illegal immigrants getting everything handed to them. ULEZ is just a small part of a bigger problem that is just getting worse everyday.

[@HdHd-hp6qz]

The vaccine jabs proved that there are too many sheep willing to listen to daddy government still.

[@petertownley7296]

sadiq khan has no choice ulez is important

[@bugsygoo]

This is very English. Make the poor pay and make sure the middle classes reap the benefits.

[@stevejones2310]

The poor don't own a car

[@bugsygoo]

@@stevejones2310 Stupid comment.

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

Khan is obviously not English.

[@stevejones2310]

@@JohnSmith-fz1wh born in London. Same as me. How is he not English.?

[@JohnSmith-fz1wh]

@@stevejones2310 Under our law and constitution he is not eligible to have any position of authority. He is a foreign agent.

[@Richie-vu4we]

Sadiq Khan and TFL need to be taken to court for knowingly causing pollution by design… Maybe a crowd fund would work

[@Mass-jab-death-2025]

The solution is already in place. They are called blade runners.