Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts - H-Class Battleship Designs [Historical Germany 1940 Campaign #6]

[@firewolf2079]

Hey stealth. Keep an eye on your armor thickness. Many times the fore or aft armor will be upwards of 2 inches difference making the ship hard to balance. Your H-class for example had 7.3 on the aft while the fore had 6.2.

[@owenmacrowski]

that heavy cruiser of yours is so fun to watch. Seeing all the secondary guns firing over each other when shooting straight forward is so cool!

[@KINGLOGAN3095]

I love the building episodes, But why did you decide to forgo the secondarys on the H-class, Surely it would be beneficial to have secondarys to engage destroyers or other light ships?

[@leminhquocvinh9486]

I think he want to have it basically always at max range of main batteries

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Secondaries get useful at 15km with 8-inch guns. That means I am well inside their torpedo range. Since that's not where I want to be I'm keeping this ship at max range. No secondaries required.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

@@Stealth17Gaming just keep dishwasher second class leeroy jenkins away from the helm.

[@rebelgaming1.5.14]

@@Stealth17Gaming I feel like Secondaries might still be a grand idea, in case the H-class is alone and has to fight back. 6's at the very least to engage the enemy at close range if the need arises.

[@gangutbayern246]

As Stealth explained, well enough torpedo range. Though, not entirely useless. This is when lighter ships with torps would have to close in since torpedoes are slow. H-klasse goes in a "kiting" position, smaller caliber guns can engage those smaller ships, whilst being able to be outside of their torp range indefinitely.

[@raigarmullerson4838]

Love this series. Cheers from Estonia

[@jonastemme2837]

And from Luxemburg and Germany

[@houraisanproductions5879]

Your heavy cruisers seem absolutely reliable in everything! Excellent work Can't wait to see the Deutschland-class in play The next battle can be revenge for that one torp hell match xD

[@jonastemme2837]

The brits were so anoying that the germans bild a nother "wunderwaffe" .I think the brits are getting flashbacks from Bismarck

[@Heiligesbrot1]

From Historical Campaign to MEME Champaign in no time👍

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

world of warships time

[@tortenschachtel9498]

When you said "Super-Deutschland" i was expecting a 20k ton heavy cruiser with 3x3 11'' guns, not an 18'' battleship ...

[@raymartcarreon6069]

The 20k ton heavy cruiser is the P-class cruiser moustache man told the Kriegsmarine to design. However, adding a third turret instantly turns it into a Scharnhorst class or lookalike, and also probably would put the ship well above the 20k ton displacement. However, when they decided to put diesel engines on the ship, it had to go over the 20K ton limit anyways because it's too small for diesels, and 32knots instead of 28 too... Basically and more historically, the Super-Deutschlands are just Deutschland but 20k tons and 32knots of speed, and probably extra secondaries and armor, still the same armament. Though I think they would atleast give it the SK C/34 version of 11 inch(instead of the C/28s they had.)

[@tortenschachtel9498]

@@raymartcarreon6069 Well, UAD allows for a bit of a different approach. I used the Advanced Cruiser II hull (heavy cruiser), set displacement to 20000t and put on 3x3 11'', 6x2 5'', 6x2 2'', 2x4 21'' standard torps, went with Diesel II, but only with 30 knots (that seems to be about the point where cost and weight start increasing exponentially) and the whole package is protected by a 12.2'' main belt, 8.5 fore and aft belt, 3.5'' main deck and 2.5'' fore and aft deck. I had to compromise with the aft tower and pitch is a bit high, but aside from that i like the result as cruiser killer and raider.

[@PhoenixT70]

Hey, Stealth, I have an idea for a type of ship you could use until your new Big Sticks come down the slipway. Before the Great War, the Royal Navy commissioned several classes of coastal monitors mounting battleships-caliber guns for coastal gunfire support. It seems to me that you need as many big guns in the fight right this second as you can; why not build the smallest (i.e. cheapest) possible hull you can that can mount a couple good-sized battleship guns? They don't need to be that good, they just need to be a force multiplier until the new ships can be launched. Use it or don't, it's just a thought.

[@Davidletter3]

I feel like that Super Deutschland is to fleet battles what Monitors are to port defence. You've basically created a floating gun barge.

[@Hitman-zp5wi]

i think what your forgetting about the H-Class Battleship Design was that one of the turrets was a triple canon so 10 16 inch cannons

[@bread5020]

the Germans never really liked triple guns

[@korosqa]

i just wish they would give us the ability to fire the torpedo tubes manually. point and click to a location and they torps shoot.

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

Would love to see air craft defense in this game

[@glauberglousger6643]

For the Plan Z ships, The Germans were fond of light shells, And they didn’t have any heavy ones in stock The rudder was unbalance (for reasons) (I know you might not want to design, just informing you if you didn’t know) It seems odd to have a campaign called historical, when the ships you design aren’t

[@Bobis32]

it was semi historical also the game balence makes it tricky to use light shells even though they should have higher pen than a heavy shell as velocity scales faster than weight

[@darrellhartanto4428]

Well, he goes kinda historical. Watch the other episodes he made. Quite difficult to match all 100% because this is a game and not a simulator. PS: He got rekt by unhistorical enemy AI so he's done with historical

[@nekomaniac2716]

he was historical to the best that he can. but game balance and AI said no

[@cameronwells82]

When building a ship and you don't add any barbettes do you need to buy the barbette armor? Or does that just add weight and do nothing?

[@leminhquocvinh9486]

6 episodes in and we already have the final solution

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

This is one of the best series you've made!

[@andreasraimov4467]

The Campaign is amazing

[@PresidentBismarck]

If he can build an H-class, why not build the Roon class cruiser?

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

yeah build World of Warships Things, maybe they are better

[@atalaitoktassadar4027]

Don´t forget the ADD CREW Button ;) or else ure running out of ship Crew again

[@DasGrimm66]

For the H series and the Super Deutschland look good but a question is what about secondaries as I didn't see any added

[@williamcote4208]

You confounding your destroyers with Light cruiser is understandable… since German’s Destroyers in WW2 we’re basically small light cruiser

[@DarksidePrime1]

H class I do believe also included torpedo launchers

[@stevelenox152]

They did

[@cobbleturd6978]

Revenge for that first O Class this episode I guess

[@VeteranMercer3426]

I can speak out of experience that the Deutschland design of Battleships and Battlecruisers, has worked wonders for me. Not sure why. But it worked at least in 1.02

[@atwarroyal8770]

Finally some h-klasse stuff.

[@eniolaakande4557]

Your ships all have the same problem of poor torpedo protection and turning rate against an enemy with excellent torpedoing ability... Refits new ships should be focused on that

[@justfun287]

Jolly on you, 2 in a day!

[@magnum6763]

the super Deutschland class isn't stupid, its fucking hilarious. as soon as i heard that i thought you were gonna go full super battleship, max tonnage, 4 18" triple turrets, SPEED, max armor, literally everything but no it smol

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

Now all you need is a super-duper Deutschland class.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

An uber-, hyper- superkalifrqgilistischexpialigetisch- design

[@Tau-5-weeb]

we start with ze 38cm cannons and by the end we get ze 50cm cannons :) (idk inches >->)

[@leminhquocvinh9486]

50cm is uh 20 inches

[@Tau-5-weeb]

@@leminhquocvinh9486 i knew that but 38cm?isnt that 16inch?or still 15 inch?

[@dennisrydell6883]

@@Tau-5-weeb it's 15 inch. 406mm or 40,6 cm is 16 inch :)

[@pit5000]

is it possible to play around with files and get unlimited displacement?

[@ulrichkalber9039]

You can increase a saved designs displacement but that would change the hullsize making the placement of items nonsensical. It might be possible to then refit that... To bild a 1000000 ton ship you also need a 1000000 ton shipyard

[@davidmarkwort9711]

The refit of Bismarck and Tirpitz can be done by removing one main battery, that way you should have room to play with

[@Dawn_Raider]

I just realized, why is Italy on the Allie side?

[@HolgerLovesMusic]

WW1 scenario that goes to the 1940s.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

they would not have called any battleship Deutschland, because of the headline "Deutschland sunk" name it after an important person from german history instead. PS.: that is also the reason why the Deutschland was renamed Lützow.

[@AtlasAS7D]

That would be true if his nation was Nazi Germany, but this game currently works on the premise that the German "Empire" still exists which historically had a Pre-Dreadnought battleship named Deutschland. So using the name Grossedeutchland may have been more accurate for the style of ship created.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

@@AtlasAS7D that changes it. of course the empire might at some point come to the conclusion that great names are dangerous, but we have no evidence for that, as this is a fictional setting.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

I would love to see length with and draft set in measurements instead of % to make it more realistic Creating some verry interesting ships an sizes to real ships.

[@deanoliv2880]

Good seriee

[@lewisvargrson]

"Her Aft is a bit heavy." Sir Mix-a-lot probably.

[@kineuhansen8629]

i asume you are getting the to far from previous messages right ?

[@thirstea06]

Oh ho

[@vermas4654]

While i understand your reasoning, that you didnt place secondaries pains me deeply

[@benanddadmechanical6573]

Your reaction when you saw the build time… Naval strategy is built strategy… what you go to war with are pretty much the ships you will fight with. Unless you are 1930’s USA with 70% of your industrial capacity essentially idle.

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

I feel like the build times need to be overhauled a bit. Building a ship, that takes 33 months to build almost feels pointless, because by that point, the war is likely to be over. Also by that point, the technology and requiremens for the ship could be drastically different. I get the ships take a long time to build in the first place, but I feel like this is one area, where the game doesn't need to be all that realistic.

[@nathanielanderson74]

I do believe that they intend for wars to be won than a section of peace so you can spend 3 years building a ship and it will be ready for the next war. as for changes of technology that did happen a lot with ships. I do wish that you could change a ship mid construction. like is you order a ship and you get new tec instead of having to build the ship then refit it, you could update the ship as its being build.

[@davidmccormick7419]

i mean historical every warship past the age of sail has been outdated since the day the keel was laid down, and during big wars most BB production was halted. its more efficient to build cruisers, destroyers, and submarines unless your the USA and have unlimited dock space and funding.

[@lathanchurch8352]

with how much the ai cheats and uses torps building new ships during campaign is nearly impossible due to the ais ability to to have a large. umber of ships and shurn them out seemingly every month

[@lathanchurch8352]

it's not the light shells, it's that the ai CHEATS

[@toenailmuncher0772]

Maybe Gröber Deutschland would be better name? Nonetheless, these videos are very entertaining