Submitted mine for a surface to air projectile. Any day now.
@petersusia13 жыл бұрын
God speed
@jg_23167 жыл бұрын
imagine if you had to do this level of paperwork to vote, or to hire a lawyer, or publish an article on politics? i still dont understand why this is constitutional. can we place a tax on a fair trial? how about hiring a lawyer? or a "poll tax" on voting?
@Ecosse577 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@ReD_SnOw-ke2hn6 жыл бұрын
jg 102316 it's not that hard 😂😂
@Alan-in-Bama5 жыл бұрын
The NFA IS an infringement of our 2nd Amendment....by definition. It Infringes one of our Guaranteed Rights in the Constitution, making us Pay the Federal government $200 per item and 'Hope they let us' purchase this firearm or part? B.S. The problem is WE ALLOW IT. We foolishly follow any law they put forth.....because we've lost the Balls to stand up 'TOGETHER' and say No. If 10,50 or 100 million of us got together and publicly stated we will no longer acknowledge this unlawful firearms act, AND.....(AND) we completely stood behind each other as they tried to arrest some as examples.... They could not arrest us all, and THAT level of public push back changes things quickly !
@codemiesterbeats5 жыл бұрын
@@Alan-in-Bama Agreed, people are more concerned with paying their rent. People amaze me when you tell them some seriously egregious story you've heard on the news or something. You give them a short run down of WHY it is such a bad thing and they give you THAT LOOK... You know, that look they give you when they basically say " There's nothing I can do about it, besides I'm dead on the inside already" lol
@atrevino19974 жыл бұрын
@@Alan-in-Bama Not only that but registration.... If you have an NFA item, you'll be on a list. Not only unconstitutional but stupid af. Lol
@speedrrracer4 жыл бұрын
Definitely time for an update to this once-excellent-but-now-outdated video!
@trashpanda80714 жыл бұрын
Wow... all this work for having something that is guaranteed in the 2nd Amendment of the constitution... crazy.
@notsojoerogan2 жыл бұрын
That's because if a rifle has a barrel shorter than 16" it automatically can increase your K/D ratio by 1300% and is classed as a super ghost gun killing machine designed by the Nazis. Read up before making such an ignorant post, moron.
@rlcarbo7 жыл бұрын
I loved the "Box of Lawyers" ... great animation!
@TheGunCollective7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noticing the details! Izzy - The Editor
@Brimmlinn7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for providing clear and concise instructions on something like this. I am sure filling out a Form 1 is a cakewalk for many, but everyone started off with no experience. Its efforts like this that truly help the community. Thank you very much Adam! BTW, you should have my vote in your office by now. Good luck in 2018!
@BeyondSeclusion5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I never comment but you earned it. I am university professor and also have a KZbin Channel and business and I have to say well done. A LOT of educators could learn a few things from your presentation. I am looking at getting a SBR and had questions on the from. OUTSTANDING work gentlemen! Thanks Respectfully, Beyond Seclusion
@goodboyk9school7523 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this really helpful and easy to understand. NFA is BS but at least good people like you make it do-able.
@GeauxRussGeaux7 жыл бұрын
I like The Legal Brief more than TGC News, mainly because every episode of TGC News is mostly full of content I've already been discussing ad nauseum on social media. I'm still a fan, I just "get more" from The Legal Brief because it is usually an informative topic that most don't research extensively for themselves.
@DanE-ew1yt7 жыл бұрын
GeauxRussGeaux I have to disagree. At least until there is a rediculous amount of emphasis on "crush". Enough to make people wonder if there's something wrong with Adam.
@TMHonfire1027 жыл бұрын
100% agreed.
@golf-n-guns7 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the _The Legal Brief!_
@capper61004 жыл бұрын
Weird how this is the difference between 15.5" and 16".
@jlsgarage8723 жыл бұрын
If it made sense it wouldn't be a law
@dracofalconis78652 жыл бұрын
Don't know we need to ask a woman that question.
@capper61002 жыл бұрын
@@dracofalconis7865 Maybe.... maybe.
@frankcarvell89357 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Kentucky....W/o fail, TGC and TLB are weekly must sees. Thank you both and thank you in advance for fighting the good fight.
@TheGunCollective7 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching! Izzy - The Editor
@theeasternfront64367 жыл бұрын
Could not have had better time guys! Thanks a bunch!
@danf40377 жыл бұрын
As some one who just had to fill out several emergency form 20s for traveling across state lines with NFA items due to Irma, could you do something like this video covering traveling with NFA items, how to fill out the form 20, and generic language to use?
@Nvdasmth17 жыл бұрын
We need to do away with the1934 Falstead act Under FDR,.the 1968 Gun control act, under LBJ. When Miller was KIA, in a Gun Battle with the Feds, oh how convenient that was, not to show up In Pearson to defend his Suit against the US on SB Shotgun and ever since this Burden is upon us TAX payers.
@Android-qn3ib7 жыл бұрын
Dan F their was abunch of people not filling out any ridiculous paperwork to cross state lines during irma, im 99% they didnt get caught though.
@joshuafeuer55964 жыл бұрын
From your experience with traveling and form 20....is having an SBR worth it? Should I just stay with a brace?
@DeathByCactus4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuafeuer5596 yes...
@jsills784 жыл бұрын
For a suppressor I have a few questions. What do you put for the manufacture name and address if you are building? What do you put as the serial number. Also what all has to be engraved once you are approved and finish building?
@swabbyboy6 жыл бұрын
I just got my form 1 back. It took 7 and a half months. Tax stamp $200, PP photo $15.00, fingerprinting $15.00, engraving $65.00(Rip off). Total: $295
@72cmcinc7 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: That was some awesome info! Thanks!
@craykard83253 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Was beginning the process of doing my SBR paperwork.
@justin61254 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill said that "the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits-not animals." And he said, "There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."
@jamesmichaelwoods29307 жыл бұрын
always a learning experience
@dylanridge-storer24717 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I wish I had had this video a year ago when I filed my first Form 1.
@ethankelso30847 жыл бұрын
The most helpful video ever! I was very confused about my paperwork and y'all cleared it right up!
@davidherbst7 жыл бұрын
That's it!? That's all you have to do to buy an Extra Deadly Weapon!? Fill out a form so arcane it requires direction from an attorney, informs federal and local law enforcement of your activities, and exposes you to potential felony charges with every wrong answer!? THIS IS ANARCHY!!!
@Ecosse577 жыл бұрын
the opposite of anarchy, it's crushing centralized power. but i agree it's outrageous and think it unconstitutional.
@ReD_SnOw-ke2hn6 жыл бұрын
David Herbst how did you survive high school 😂😂😂
@joshhernandez50694 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, no one recognizes sarcasm or has a sense of humor anymore. 🙄
@notme51174 жыл бұрын
It's okay man I understand your sarcasm and enjoyed it. Thank you lol
@noble91404 жыл бұрын
More like tyranny
@GarthKlaus6 жыл бұрын
The question of caliber on suppressors keep coming up. Remember that you are registering the suppressor, not the gun(s) you might use it on. Use the caliber of the suppressor, check with the manufacturer to be most accurate. If you made it yourself, use the diameter of the exit hole or of the largest round you can safely fire thru it.
@awv316 жыл бұрын
How do you measure overall length without assembling the SBR and fully extending the stock?
@HickLif36 жыл бұрын
Maybe use an existing rifle as reference? Measure it and subtract the barrel length difference
@seductivesnake16 жыл бұрын
You caught them there 👍🏻
@CarsFitnessMoney4 жыл бұрын
Maybe build it as a pistol and transfer it to being an SBR
@matteosreisman4 жыл бұрын
@@CarsFitnessMoney to do this youd have to initially purchase the buffer tube because being in posession of a stock than can be readily installed is as illegal as per ATF letters
@padonrishell28014 жыл бұрын
@@matteosreisman so if i had a spare stock and buffer tube laying around and owned an AR pistol thats illegal?
@billangell64783 жыл бұрын
Still great content all these years later.
@dosbox9072 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR YOU WORK BROTHER
@Asdf-wf6en3 жыл бұрын
4:20 can your reason be for silencing the sound of farts? Also is a fart muffler legally considered a silencer. The muffler on a car doesn't need a form 1 so I imagine a fart muffler wouldn't either. I think this might be a highly useful legal loophole.
@countdooku70205 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !!!!! I have trouble reading sometimes and this really help me out thank you 🙏
@2wheeleddemon9994 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I was always discouraged about getting a suppressor until now.
@damoncrowfeather46554 жыл бұрын
Form 1 is for building your own suppressor, not the purchase of a suppressor.. which would require a Form 4.
@chrisbo667 жыл бұрын
I currently have a trust with a few NFA items in it, but that was before the ATF changes. Now, it seems the trust just makes it more difficult. The next NFA item for me will be as an individual... unless we can get some of these rediculous laws changed! REPEAL THE NFA!!
@andrewmamrus22266 жыл бұрын
can you do a sbr and suppressor in one? or would i need to fill out two separate forms?
@FuckThisSiteNow4 жыл бұрын
2 forms $200 each
@utoobrandomness71974 жыл бұрын
If you plan on having the suppressor able to be removed, then yes... (2) tax stamps ($200/ea), if youre going to fusion weld the suppressor to the barrel of a SBR; you can use the additional barrel length of the suppressor to overcome the need to call something a SBR & would just be (1) tax stamp instead
@mrjamiebowman4 жыл бұрын
those are two separate items with two separate serial numbers ... assuming your can attaches to the barrel in some way.
@Tula1940_LB4 жыл бұрын
If the suppressor is permanently attached to the barrel and the total length from the face of the closed bolt to muzzle end is greater than 16" then it would just be a silencer. If it is not permanently attached or if the total length is less than 16" it would be a silencer and a short barrel rifle.
@HandyMan6572 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@arolls223 жыл бұрын
Great video very easy to follow. Thanks for supporting my 2 amendment rights!!
@viper1sniper7697 жыл бұрын
Make sure you print the forms double sided with passport photos attached on page 2.
@hamdog88727 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks so much guys, this by far my favorite (and most useful) youtube subscription
@TheGunCollective7 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching! Izzy - The Editor
@garyh.72827 жыл бұрын
I'm sure glad the feds keep things simple when it comes to being a free citizen oh wait that only applies to undocumented citizens my bad.
@ReD_SnOw-ke2hn6 жыл бұрын
gary this is pretty simple man, if you don't like it, don't buy it ;)
@sdivine135 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Appleseed it just got reintroduced into congress
@stick2dapoint884 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the vid; it was very helpful.. Mind clarifying something for me please? I was under the impression that you cannot (legally) complete the build of a SBR (attach upper to lower) prior to approval of your tax stamp/Form1. If that's the case, how do you accurately get the OAL?
@Tigbead4 жыл бұрын
I want to know to? Do people attach, measure. And then take it apart again??
@TheSkeptic0004 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rawouch7 жыл бұрын
Great info as always.
@01SVTVenom7 жыл бұрын
Great work as always. One quick question. Is there any legal burden of proof necessary for the CLEO notification? Worth sending it certified to the county CLEO?
@mnadamn7 жыл бұрын
Sean Wolff this is a great question, I have always given mine in person, the first time they had no clue what to do, I wouldn't be surprised if it was thrown away. That is also why I had the person at the desk sign a slip stated it was received.
@Marty480347 жыл бұрын
Yep. This. I had the desk stamp and sign my copy received. But as was also mentioned, I took it in person.
@drawsawyer58816 жыл бұрын
I feel way more confident doing this on my own after watching this! Thanks!
@corbin11579 ай бұрын
Thank god that paying $200 finally makes me able to handle a stabilizing brace on my pistol safely.
@shawnmatthews51185 жыл бұрын
Yeesh! 16” barrel it is!
@wassman277 жыл бұрын
Ugghh what a PITA. I wish we had the good Ole days of efile. Perhaps some day I will file another but the hassle isn't worth in my view. However if I didn't already have a number of F1's approved pre 41F I would most likely go through the process.
@vulcan13587 жыл бұрын
Since NFA items use your mailing address for engraving purposes, what happens if you move or have to change address? Do you have to get your firearm engraved again?
@8SiCK0LAKE16 жыл бұрын
Id imagen it not having to change. Like when we buy a firearm, we don't have to change the stampings from where it was made.
@NYRM19743 жыл бұрын
We should form a petition to REPEAL THE FOLLOWING. The NFA of 1934 the 1986 Ban the 1968 Ban push for the UNITED STATES CARRY ACT. To allow you to carry a loaded firearm anywhere in AMERICA without fear of being arrested.
@ReD_SnOw-ke2hn6 жыл бұрын
Honestly if I knew this shit was that easy I would've made an sbr a long time ago , Draco here I come!!
@r0nb0h0ju7 жыл бұрын
Adam, I was wearing the same shirt today. I think you should add an "Expert Tip" for those with their 80% completed. "Manufactured by "ME" Made in the Republic of Texas". (Because God Bless Texas) Would they accept a non-existent place for manufacture? If you need a separate notification to the BATFE for a second caliber, can you submit that with the Form 1? How many signatures have you gotten for the NRA BoD?
@bigdg856 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, this is awesome
@slowhitEJ14 жыл бұрын
For the "serial #.. block- 4g I believe. If we're building a supressor, do we fill in whatever serial we want, will one be assigned? Blank?
@boringoldman4 жыл бұрын
What manufacture do you put if you are the one making a silencer? And where do I get fingerprint cards?
@utoobrandomness71974 жыл бұрын
a lil out in the woods but... #1 Do SBR's not require any additional serializing? (I ask since Im planning on SBR'ing a Kriss vector & theres not really any real estate for this above & beyond whats already in place) #2 What does the typical schema of serials look like as an individual as opposed a trust, or an LLC that does NOT have an FFL?
@cberge82 жыл бұрын
For the two fingerprint cards, should 2 originals be sent or two copies of the same original card?
@knottreel2 жыл бұрын
If you are sending more than one application, can you include both in the same envelope, along with one check for the total?
@DJCOLLIE6 жыл бұрын
You're awesome man! Thanks for this video!
@TBrunoLouis4 жыл бұрын
Here's a question, do you need a picture of your actual passport or a copy of a passport that you can amend on the document? That's what I am having trouble with.
@A48WillyzGuy7 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyway. Since you can't classify a suppressor as "multi" caliber any longer, would it be an issue to use a home built 30 cal can on a 223 cal rifle?
@The_BlackFish4 жыл бұрын
How long does this entire process take nowadays. I wanna get a witness protection 870
@bdwitt667 жыл бұрын
Excellent info for people not in my state 😣
@faithandfarmingtennessee8727 жыл бұрын
KRAUT FOR NRA 2018!
@quinnlandon32543 жыл бұрын
What if I do not have a passport?
@Pk-io6xe2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need one
@fullthrottlewrx5 жыл бұрын
If you want to legalize one of those fuel filter suppressors that come ordered online from China, what should you put in for the manufacturers info?
@danegeeding52104 жыл бұрын
I want to SBR my sam7k-44...But DAMN after watching this, way too much work!
@Iancwilliamson5 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question but What if you recently moved but have no updated your address on your license? Would you have to update your license before filling the form out?
@L1LegoAnimations4 жыл бұрын
So if I wanted to legally manufacture an oil filter or something into a suppressor, how would I go about that?
@shaneadams54563 жыл бұрын
How do you choose a CLEO ? County or town?
@jonesperkins13822 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about turning my hunting shotgun a Mossberg 535 into an SBS. Would I measure the overall length with the full-length stock on it or with the pistol grip stock on it?
@AlphaDad4 жыл бұрын
what about home built silencers? for manufacturer info
@Fl0wtrader774 жыл бұрын
Can you create a silencer with a form 1 under 21 years of age?? Or does the ATF typically not approve those?
@kenithbarron94157 жыл бұрын
The bad said... u have to register your stuff.. so when martial lae comes and the troops and law enforcement comes to disarm you.. they know exactly who to go to first.
@coupledyetivonvanderburg53856 жыл бұрын
So, this is just if you're making an NFA firearm, like an SBR/SBS, but if I were to make a standard, full length shotgun from scratch, no form, right?
@Jetmech10855 жыл бұрын
It’s depressing how this unconstitutional regulation goes unchecked .. this is ridiculous.
@JohnShaw26.27 жыл бұрын
Adam, can we get a video explaining the new form 4?
@TheGunCollective7 жыл бұрын
Mayyyybeee;) Izzy - The Editor
@mitchellfay57254 жыл бұрын
Do you need multiple forms for multiple things like a 200 tax stamp for sbr AND another 200 tax stamp for a silencer?
@davioncooper10013 жыл бұрын
Same question
@x101st Жыл бұрын
Hi! Great info! Question on Box 4b. It said see definition 2.K. I looked on the back of the forms that had definitions, and could not find 2.K. So, in 4.b, do we spell it out (Short Barreled Rifle), or just SBR? Can you clarify this? Thanks!
@ThePriceIsRising10 ай бұрын
Do you need a one tax stamp per gun or silencer?
@Darkhorse19016 жыл бұрын
THANKS GREAT JOB
@SighsInternally3 жыл бұрын
is this still for suppressors? I wouldnt say call a can a "firearm"
@canadian87643 жыл бұрын
Is 4e supposed to be the barrel length on the gun currently or the one you want to install?
@a.c.garcia99834 жыл бұрын
So on box 4a. The manufacturer would just be who made the lower receiver correct. Say you are building your own gun.
@DbBoomstick3 жыл бұрын
What do you put for the overall length if the stock is interchangeable between two stocks, one pistol grip and the other a full stock?
@brutus53803 жыл бұрын
Curious how up to date this is.
@fredjackson84084 жыл бұрын
Just bought a MP40 replica and I'll need to NFA it for the folding stock mod...would that count as a short barrel rifle?
@boringoldman4 жыл бұрын
Can’t have different calibers with a silencer or move states with one?
@38jmdff7 жыл бұрын
If a 80% lower pistol is made by an individual, would a silencer permit be issued? There is no manufacturer information to put onto the form...?
@brianshrum66852 жыл бұрын
So.......correct me if I am wrong, but, to fill the form out accurately with overall length, serial number, etc, i need all parts to make my SBR, but, I cant legally make it without the NFA Stamp?
@tomorrowtactical7 жыл бұрын
So either way, individual or a trust (responsible person), you have to get fingerprinted now? Do you still have to get the lower receiver engraved?
@fattigla6 жыл бұрын
As for the CLEO notification, can anyone clarify how we notify them? Do I just need to mail my CLEO a copy of the form 1 or does it need to be hand delivered? Do they need fingerprint cards also?
@RG_1166 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. You didn’t state if doing thru a trust or legal entity, if we had to send a copy of the trust documents to the ATF and/or CLEO. It’s not on the checklist at the end. Just want to confirm if we do send it or not and to who. Please advise, thanks.
@josephdeliz34553 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I'll be filling this out in the state of Texas....Goddammit
@klowntech4 жыл бұрын
So you have to send in your SBR assembled to have it engraved? Is that real life?
@ricksorber83435 жыл бұрын
If I chop the barrel on my shotgun, does that make me the manufacturer or did Remington still make it?
@minipeppers69282 жыл бұрын
How do I know the overall length if I haven’t built my SBR yet?
@peterpandora6204 жыл бұрын
What's the fastest way to get fingerprint cards?
@dr.covfefephd7407 жыл бұрын
Do you have to do anything if you move, and the address in line 3b is no longer current?
@timsmith21933 жыл бұрын
do you buy the gun, then fill this out, then wait and take delivery? Kind of confused on the order since it sounds like you need the gun to fill out some of the form?
@Pk-io6xe2 жыл бұрын
This is only for making or converting a NFA gun
@JustinFromBSing2 жыл бұрын
Ok so if I’m building an sbr starting with a stripped lower, do I need to buy the lower first so that I can fill out the serial number brand ect? If not then what do I do? Also if I haven’t bought all of the parts do I need to know my configuration of parts I will use so I know the overall length? If I buy the parts before getting my forum 1 back then I will technically be in possession of illegal items right? That’s the only parts that have been confusing me and keeping me from doing my sbr.
@henrydlr85315 жыл бұрын
So when making a suppressor I don’t have to fill out 4A? Also what about 4G when making your own suppressor since there is no original serial number?
@jediraptor077 жыл бұрын
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm confused on one thing: do you need to attach a passport photo to each copy of the Form 1, i.e. both copies going to ATF as well as the copy to the CLEO, one photo to ATF and one to CLEO, or just one photo to ATF?
@R3AP3R4M7 жыл бұрын
for my form 4 both ATF copies needed a pic...hope this helps