Ultra Short Throw vs Long Throw Projector - LG HU85LA vs Epson 5050UB

How does an Ultra Short Throw Projector (LG HU85LA) compare to a bright long throw projector (Epson 5050UB)? This is a comparison of the technologies with the pros and cons of both projector types. Projectors mentioned in this video include the Vava 4K Projector, the Optoma P1, Epson 6050ub / 5050ub, and LG Cinebeam HU85LA.
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[@ChrisMajestic]

A few people have mentioned that the laser light source (lamp) can't be replaced. LG has assured me that it is indeed replaceable and that dealers have replacement lamps available. So there's no need to throw the projector out when the lamp dies. This is welcome news.

[@brownmiester]

do u think i could really use a projector for a tv despite a room is not totally dark?

[@dennisbrown1296]

Hello chris i love your videos i hope you review the JVC NX5 or NX7 ..I’m interested on your take on the JVC models.JVC if your reading please send Chris a Model to review Thanks

[@TylerJWenzel]

Actually? I e-mailed LG and got the exact opposite response - even after a couple clarifying emails - which is why I am not considering buying one. They told me this is not designed to be an "economical unit" and "can't be replaced". Might have to go pester them some more...

[@trentdabs5245]

So I got a Viewsonic Px 700 HD about two years ago and I love it But it's been Overheating, I looked inside and it Completely Covered in Dust in the inside. I tried looking up How to clean or disassemble on KZbin and the only thing I could find is a Build replacement. I'm going to Vacuum it out the Best I can But I think she might be done 😣 UPDATE I FIXED IT 😎 Had to take it Completely Apart was held together with tiny clips (Think PS4 )if that helps. Lamp is at 7000 Hours and it says it will last till 14000 so I'm at half, Really it my Fault for Not cleaning it sooner. I can recommend it to Anyone for Any application, I use it as my T.V works Grate 👍

[@constantinosschinas4503]

even if you did, at 20K hours, it would be cheapet than buying 8 or 10 lcd or dlp lamps i guess.

[@marcrolle4601]

I mean you've convinced me on the short throw, now I just need to convert a wall space and scrounge up 7 grand and im set! Love the reviews!

[@1wired4sound]

You don’t need to spend 7k on the LG, the Optoma is under 4K and is very good. The Vava is even less

[@Luistx22]

Yes - just pair a CLR screen with a VAVA and you are in business

[@isitjustmeorwhat9748]

@@1wired4sound neither the Optima nor the VAVA's OS is comparable to the LG. VAVA's OS glitches and the Optima utilizes a color wheel and has it's quirks as well.

[@shaheenshad5012]

@@laurabrown6809 stop spamming your advertising laura.

[@b3owu1f]

Love your reviews Chris. Not overly long, yet you cover all the details needed. I suspect you will have a lot more subscribers in the not too distant future. Keep it up!

[@FieldfareFirepit]

Cracking review as always Chris with loads of excellent real world considerations for both options. Keep these reviews coming!

[@RAVISHING_RONY]

Great video. Can’t imagine the amount of work it took to get this video done. Thanks for the info

[@ZenyWorld]

The best review I ever seen, specially because you compare dark and light environment with the same video synchronized and I know that took I time to do that. Awesome job my man.

[@ElkhornRich]

Chris, great informative vid. Hadn't even heard of the short throw projectors, but you covered all that I felt that I needed to know. And, in a no nonsense, straight to ya, video. Thx.

[@TriMuXx]

Awesomely done! Sharing this video as a result of how really great the info in this video is!! Damn, keep it up!!

[@KudzuDigital]

I am in the market to have a home cinema in a year or two. I have to say of like 12 different channels that I have seen, including professional retail channels, this is by far the best. Informative. Entertaining without trying to hard to be funny (you have that natural charisma). I am not an official subscriber.

[@xawnia]

Cool TShirt! 😉 Thanks for the in-depth feature rundown!

[@normynorm]

so im moving to a new home. the current owner has a 82" Samsung on the wall. but it looks like a 40' because the wall is soo huge. now im definitely in the market for a projector and im on here doing all the research I can. this video helps tremendously. keep em coming

[@TeleBass1]

Excellent Video, Chris! Great information on the projectors.... Thank You, Randy

[@businessguide6219]

This video is worth watching! More of this, please!

[@danh2716]

I would add that long throws are much more forgiving of screen alignment and flatness. With the short throw PJs you need to have everything lined up really well, with a nice flat screen, etc.

[@triplerinse]

Chris thanks for all your info through the years. Just purchased the Epson 3800. I love it. Would love to show you my build. It was easier thanks to your advice.

[@fukrfuck290]

iv had lg since March & i love it! awesome!!! 120"

[@scottp4862]

Great video Chris! I have been on the fence on which type to buy when my LG 65” OLED goes kaput. We have a large family room, and would like to have at least a 100” screen eventually. I like the short throw for the simple reason that I would not have to tear up my walls to run the cables for a standard projector mounted in the ceiling, all the wiring is right where my current tv sits. Short throw is the way to go for me, thanks for the information!

[@vicvinegarLLC]

I'd love for you to make a video about "Best Projectors at $1k, $2k, $3k, $4k, and $5k" or something similar. I know there are preference differences like living room vs home theatre but it's nearly impossible for a first time buyer to know what they're doing without clear, well-explained comparisons. Great videos! They help a lot.

[@kvdude7279]

Watched several of your videos today. I really like how you get right to the point. Consider me subscribed! 😁

[@vaidykameswaran4689]

Very good explanation....wonderful....so much information in such a short presentation....very well done...thank you

[@nickangelini814]

I built my theater based off of your knowledge. Keep it up Chris! You have covered a lot , maybe an updated budget smart home video? Or do your old picks hold true as far as “ best home security camera “ or comparing some of the newer smart home hubs. You always have great insight and I’m sure some other people that are new to this would love the feedback.

[@burgunbeerd]

If they release a newer version of the 5050UB with 4k that'll be incredible

[@Nickkettt]

Burgunbeerd $10.000 easily

[@Jrfeimst2]

It would. JVC 4K is 6000 and 9000 so there is room for Epson to go up in price to 5000 and give jvc some competition. I have a jvc e shift like the Epson and love it but the 4K is a little much. They went up in price when they went true 4K. Mine was 4000 and that same model in 4K is 9000

[@HBOMB19771]

Your videos are excellent, lots of detail and well produced. What do you recommend for outdoor projectors?

[@shodawadekar]

I enjoyed your review, to the point and accurate. It would be great to see a comparison video of Ultrashort and Short throw projector

[@ImJustMe555]

Man I love your videos. Thanks for providing such useful information for the less knowledgeable people in this subject. I understand that ultra short throw projectors aren't great for gaming, but can you do a video about the best ultra short throws for the average gamers? (Top 3-5)

[@johnpapola2720]

Super helpful video! Great stuff, man.

[@1wired4sound]

I have my Optoma p-1 behind my Center channel speaker which worked out. Also it’s in a dedicated space with no windows and works really well on the screen I’ve had for five years, a Silver Ticket 120”

[@MrAmath7]

Would be cool, to have a video on the best portable projectors . Awesome channel!!

[@mathieufalcy8616]

Hi, great summary ! there one more point worth to note about UST projectors, their very short angle of projection will magnify even the least defect or wave in the screen. I had very bad experience with elite screen motorized tensioned in ceiling screen. I see horrible horizontale lines in the image highlights (eg sky, white back ground). Customer support claimed this is a weakness related to UST projection angle and that UST projector shall be used (only) with fixed frame screens... now I’m switching to a regular throw projector...

[@jadan2000]

Great stuff man. i definitely needed to see this!

[@caffeineandkaspa]

I have a built in ceiling center channel speaker and I love it. All of my speakers are in-ceiling and most people don't even realize I have surround until it's on.

[@sergelanglois753]

Dammmm Chris 😳. I m more confuse than before 😂😂😂. Nice video 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽. I will watch ur next one for sure 🤩

[@BigJim2]

I like that center channel speaker. Now I'm trying to find out what model it is. Keep up the great content. Love the videos!

[@ChrisMajestic]

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[@tyronehardy5607]

Nice TV stand for short throw projector @ 6:14

[@emilyeah]

Love your energy - no matter what you talk about 😊 subscribed

[@jameskrolak]

Great video. I had my home theater built last April with the LG HU85LA. Good timing just as lockdowns were being enacted everywhere. I have to say that the image quality is great. The brightness is awesome. I can even watch with the curtains open on a sunny day, though it's definitely better with them closed. I have to admit that the LG is a little finicky, though. Getting it aligned just right for a nice, square image takes a bit of work. Any inconsistencies with your wall (and thus your screen mounted to it) are a lot more noticeable with a UST. My biggest complaint, however, is the WebOS on the HU85LA. It's interface is poorly designed and not intuitive at all. And the apps sometimes perform less than great. I keep having issues with it connecting to my PLEX media server--and I have other devices around my house that can connect just fine at the same time that the LG refuses to find PLEX.

[@rossawilson01]

Great round up mate Cheers!

[@GrimCellar]

Great article, thanks Chris, have been looking for views on comparing short to long throw, although I think I've concluded long throw is still probably the better option for me.

[@ZJMK605]

Another great video. Thanks Chris!!

[@brianschulz6462]

Awesome video as I just subscribed. Could you do a video on determining best screen size based on a given wall dimensions taking into account both types of projector throw? I’m moving and want to know the biggest screen size for each type to help me in deciding.

[@Marzen216]

Can't wait for CES and to see what's coming soon. I need a true 4K version of the 5050UB that retains the great color and black level detail but now has all the sharpness and detail that was missing.

[@scaryperson27]

You are a badass I am learning so much! Thank you!

[@panacea20111]

Great review. I recently bought LG HU85LA and absolutely loved it. I still have my Optoma 4k UHD50 and watch it once in a while to appreciate the brightness and picture quality of my LG projector. Do you have some advice on picture calibration for LG projector for an exceptional image quality?

[@TomYaz]

This was a really good video tutorial

[@IanGrantphoto]

Big fan, great video and super helpful!

[@nishantgai]

Thanks for very informative video. I've been planning to replace my TV but still not completely sure if UST projector can really replace TV. I do have quite a bit ambient lite in my leaving room (no separate room for home theater) during day time where I do casual viewing and don't want to make the room dark every time I want to watch TV. I want to understand if the experience of UST projector is similar to regular TV. I'm okay to use ambient light rejecting screen if that helps. Thanks again for the informative videos, I'm subscribed to your channel.

[@RaSickk]

this is the video i was waiting for!!!!

[@tomasthisted5008]

Thanks Chris for the great review comparing both ultra short projectors vs standard ones. I have a question regarding the sound installation on the ultra short LG projector. I believe you mentioned that you need to install an amplifier right below the projector, but I am not sure why you would need that. In my case, I will install an amplifier next to the projector in order to drive the sound to my Technics speakers. Many Thanks!!

[@williamrice3052]

Great info and well presented

[@Samzep]

Love your set up what speakers model ? And whats the best real 4k projector

[@lipscovc]

Great Chris have missed your videos. Are any new better UST's coming out?

[@rosemarysutton8951]

Great info! Thank you!

[@MG-kd7et]

Some reviewers have noted the out of the box sharpness of the Epson 3 LCD. Epson does get really sharp with it’s image enhancement and super resolution along with pixel shifting, which makes the Epson incredibly tack sharp, you’ll see every facial pore, and along with gamma curve adjustments, the brightness and color are truly fantastic. The LG setup with ALR screen in my opinion, is way too expensive for the picture size it offers and Epson can go way bigger 200” and still look great for movies. In addition Epson has fantastic customer support (LG ?) Thanks for the nice review.

[@weikra2023]

Hey! Thanks for your videos! What do you think... Which is the UST projector with the best black levels for daylight using?

[@matthewkilts9299]

Hi Chris, glad you mentioned screen size limitation in this video. After subscribing & watching many of your vids, along w/hours of research & calls, seems UST specific screens / horizontal lenticular i could find all over up to 120" (possibly a limitation of material?) or 150" some ALR but non UST. Many of us with UST projectors supporting 150" would trade 150" larger screen for some screen contrast loss. For frequently watching with lights on/some daylight through windows, would love your thoughts on if 150" UST specific screen isnt available, what could be the next best option ALR at 150" for a UST such as the Vava 4K UST?

[@mitchellhobbs7533]

Thanks for the info!!!

[@mariannesice4540]

Heya thanks so much for the video! Its v helpful. I'm researching projectors for my Masters project and was wondering what kind of projector you would advise for example to project small images onto a surface like the human body? I know this is a bit of a niche question! Just trying to find out where to look! Thanks, M

[@chrism9976]

Home theater tech keeps getting better. I just rewired my living room for a traditional projector, now this is available! Aren't lasers bad for the eyes?

[@kamrankpt]

Nice video, thenks. Would you recommend an ultra short throw projector for a house with a toddler that can touch it or move it?

[@jimanddiana4103]

Very helpful, thanks.

[@francoisdurocher4951]

In relation to cost...doesn't the screen for the Ultra Short Throw cost a lot more ❓ Great video again...welcome back.

[@vinyfiny2019]

Yep. I think the screen he used in the video is about $700 (almost double the price for an ALR screen that's the same brand and size but for standard projectors). You can project on a standard white or gray screen though if it's going in a room with good light control.

[@dawghunter18]

Hey Chris just watched a video and enjoyed all the helpful information ..so my question is, is the 6050ub Epson a better equivalent comparison to this LG then since it is true 4K? …..Just really starting to find out about the short throw projectors and I’m torn between purchasing a wall mount or one of these

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

I started wanting one of those Anker Nebula projectors, but of course I entered the worm-hole of projectors and am now heavily weighing towards the 505UB. I am looking for something under 3K that I can put in my 12'x23' room. So much to consider.

[@68HC060]

I think this is a good video, covering a lot of questions. -But one question I have is: How well does the short-throw projector perform on a "white wall". I know that a standard projector will work just fine (yes, I know you can get better picture if you use a screen, but that's not why I'm asking the question at all). The reason for me to ask the question, is that the screen for the short-throw projector is "special", it has angled horizontal segments. I can imagine that the picture would look directly horrible on a plain flat white wall. Besides, it's only because I'm curious about it; I have no plan on buying a short-throw projector and using it without a screen. -But maybe I'm just expecting too little. Could you try this out and post a short video or just write a comment saying "A screen is definitely a requirement, there's no way you can use the projector without it." ?

[@erickvasquez]

Cool video. Let me know when I can buy an affordable ultra-short-throw projector because my current set up is meh (Anker Nebula prism)

[@jercubsfan]

Awesome video, as always! I'd love to see your thoughts/recommendations of a "rock bottom" budget projector that's

[@ChrisMajestic]

Great idea. I'll consider this

[@rosaleen1004]

@@ChrisMajestic Yes please! Been looking around for a projector and the moment I decided on the Nebula Capsule, I see a review that it isn't 'that great'. Tough to find projectors as electronic stores in Spain don't carry enough models to see it in person.

[@m.zillch3841]

Thank you. Good overview. Q: Do YOU see rainbow distortion on the LG HU85LA? I saw them on earlier DLPs but I have no idea what the latest ones are like.

[@Jrfeimst2]

Maybe talk about input lag if no one has mentioned that already. Great video. 👍

[@dw6015]

Great info, thanks.

[@jordandavidbellamy]

Hey Chris! Since many of the laser projectors have good built in speakers- can you use the projector as the middle speaker and run it through your AV receiver as a part of your entire surround set up? Thanks!

[@anttitauriainen3367]

Really good sumup of the differences. Just wanted to point out that there is a 3LCD ultra short throw projector from Epson (LS500) so if you're allergic to DLP rainbows there is an other option. One advantage of standard throw projector like UB5050 is motorized lens that enables using different zooms for different content. That is a must if you want to use 2.39:1 screen instead 16:9. Also more costly option for this, the anamorphic lens is also only usable with standard throw.

[@rathishrajenderan7668]

Pls help in buying between ls 500 vs Epson 6050 in a light controlled room

[@anttitauriainen3367]

@@rathishrajenderan7668 If you have light controlled room I would recommend 6050. LS500 lacks DCI-P3 wide color gamut that 6050 has. So with 6050 you will get the real colors of UHD contents.

[@marymarshall8847]

Hi thanx for the great video .I understand the UST projectors needing to be at a certain distance from the wall but there's no real reason you can't flip the ALR screen and mount the UST projector on the ceiling Just a option I thought of that you didn't mention

[@deesr.6641]

thanks for informative video, how about showing the viewers the difference. It seems no one has done a visual comparison between the LG and this Epson..as well as the LG versus the Optoma X1 or X2 short throw.. I am wondering if LG requeseted not to have video posted of comparison visually?

[@MagDag_]

Thank you for comparising. Can you test LG vs Epson LS500? Price very close and Epson looks interesting.

[@rychei5393]

Cool, what would be the best projector for shining shows onto a building? I often hear just a short throw, but really, which is best?

[@stephenang499]

What is so difficult about permanently mounting the projector on a ceiling and forgetting it is there? With lens shift like Epson and a motorised or flat screen, it is practically a fire and forget solution. Short throw projectors have so many limitations including having to get higher ceilings, precarious overhang from the TV console, being nudged out of position every now and then by kids or having to clean, unable to have a screen in front of the TV......so much more trouble. Ceiling mount is out of the way and is a much more permanent placement when once you set it right till you change the projector.

[@deepum7814]

Hi Chris , can you please share the ceiling mount that you have used . Thanks.

[@CircuitAce]

You have 2 PB16's now.. almost time for an update

[@pappamolly1457]

Should I go with a Yamaha RX A730 or Sony STR dh790? I know it has nothing to do with this video but you’re always a big help. Thank you

[@proz71ful19]

Picked up a 6040ub for only 1700$!! Full 3 year warranty as well. It’s so nice even with an old bulb. I would get yourself one before you are stuck buying a 3000$+ projector

[@asifmohamed5348]

Thank you for explaining. I am using Xiaomi laser projector. It cost me around 2k USD. Though it doesn't have a good interface like LG, and the OS is in Chinese, I have connected Nvidia shield TV Pro for media playback.

[@jesusrios9024]

Can you do a review on the Epson EF-100 Mini Laser projector thank you

[@philosophymythology7505]

Chris Majestic hello friend I like how you explained every details about the projectors you have. I have 150" inch zero edge fixed frame projector screen give me your advise, do you think Ultra Short Throw projector will work better for 150 inch screen?

[@supportitservices6349]

Thanks my friend

[@ATM.offline]

Can you make a vid for best projectors 2020? 4K and full HD would be great. Thanks

[@farhanameen9645]

Would love to see a video on sound treatment for a home theatre!

[@nonametofame]

Black levels can be greatly improved when using a more ideal ALR screen with a UST, especially those designed specifically for it, thus incompatible with standard throw projectors. The gain is typically 0.4 - 0.8. The one used in in the videos, at 0.9 is a bit high, so black levels will suffer.

[@starish9715]

Thank you

[@craigmcdowall6070]

fantastic - as always

[@EmblemParade]

It depends on so many specific issues with the shape of the room! In my case, an ultra-short would end up being in the way of people moving around. A short-throw is best for me, but I need a VERY short throw. Most short-throws stop at a 1.2 ratio, but if I could find one with as low as a 1.0 ratio I would have the perfect screen size!

[@maiwei]

What a crazy time we live in. Simple amazing

[@sameralhanbaly6877]

Thank you for very informative video. Can LG HU85LA be connected to notebook by wireless connection to make screen mirroring? I hope that you can make a video about that.

[@tumalik]

good idea for a video would be projector screens. Not too many videos about screens and compatibility with ultra/short throw and std projectors. Would be also good to highlight budget, mid tier and high end screens in relation to usage type

[@jeffreystiles5716]

looking for the best portable projector that has potential for outdoor use, any suggestions?

[@joem914]

Have you done any reviews on the Xiaomi Mi 4K projector?

[@marcforster4064]

I have a cheap long throw projector, I place it on a tripod rather than the ceiling. The biggest issue is the noise so close to my head. I'd like an ultra short throw just to have the noise coming from a place further from me!

[@neilbradley9035]

Chris Majestic is THE projector man

[@garun001]

Thinking about getting the LG projector. But also wanted to know what elite aeon clr series screen do you recommend with the LG short throw projector. I see there are three series ? Can find series 1 available currently in the market, should I wait for a particular screen ?

[@johnlange8729]

I am in the middle of installing an ultra short throw projector in my living room, and plan on using blackout motorized blinds as the screen. I would love for you to give your thoughts on this.

[@rugbyasu]

Well done!