Ultra Short Throw Projectors. Stuff you should know. BEFORE YOU BUY.

[@Bestfriend-650]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. As a common person who has used a projector as tv for past 6 years I disagree. Yes the picture will be bad if you are looking for perfection but it will be very much watchable and enjoyable if you can close the blinds or curtains. The tradeoff here is big screen and once you start viewing content at 100 inch plus screen, there is no going back. Right now I have a dedicated Theater room that can be 100% dark but I have used projector in living room for few years in past and was able to manage. With arrival of oled, everyone has started focusing on true blacks. I get the point but for me personally a huge screen wins any day even if I don’t get true blacks.

[@MichaelBeeny]

As long as you are happy, that's the main thing. Many people are. It's personal opinion after all.

[@TheMeefive]

I haven't had a tv since 2017. I bought a cheap projector when my last tv went bust, and I haven't looked back. Your points are valid but I'll offer some counter points. 1.Ambient light. Even when I had a tv I watched it in the dark. Look at any video of a tv where there is a light source and you see reflections. Even in your video you can see reflections off your OLED screen. So I've always kept my room dark but even with my cheap projector I can still see my hand in front of my face when it's off. 2.Black bars. I watched Shang Chi in the theater and the bars above and below were dark grey rather than black. At home I don't have that problem because I use the Zoom2 feature to fill the screen. I know that doesn't work for some because they feel like they are losing some of the picture. It's never been detrimental to my viewing experience. Again, even when I had a tv I used the Zoom2 feature because I found the black bars annoying. 3 Screen. I bought a 150 inch screen from Amazon for $45. It actually stretches out to more than 150 inches. I put a black sheet behind it and now I have a 154 inch picture with decent contrast.

[@keekee4697]

I enjoyed listening. Thank you for the info. I could listen and learn all day 🙂

[@MichaelBeeny]

Thank you KeeKee, most appreciated. Name name!

[@tomasbaer9070]

I totally enjoyed your presentation. You were so kind to tell us ( the viewers ) who you were and your experience in the cinematography industry. It was extremely informative, and definitely will help me in making a decision before purchasing a short throw projector .

[@MichaelBeeny]

Thank you Tomas for your kind words. You might like to watch this far more technical review here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKjVpmWJlJaKppI It's good to know I'm not the only one to comment on this most important aspect of no 24FPS.

[@gregb1599]

When I first saw this video you reminded me of someone else that was heavily involved in movie theaters that we knew very well through my late father who painted the Kerridge Odeon theatres throughout NZ, that was the late Albert Morrison or as we knew him "Morrie" Thanks for the video..

[@MichaelBeeny]

I don't think I have ever met Albert, but the name does ring a distant bell Greg.

[@sanysmail]

Appreciate your video. Very useful. Even I am intrigued by this new tech and ready to jump on when it becomes less expensive. Until then we know the truth only through reviewers. We really needed video like yours to actually see if there are any pitfalls.

[@1wired4sound]

I have a dedicated room in my basement, 28’ deep, 14’ wide no windows. I had a 1080 ceiling mounted unit and now have a faux k UST unit, 120” 16/9 screen. Nothing can compete with an oled screen but I’m very pleased with picture quality

[@the1songwriter]

Many thanks for taking the time to produce this very informative and brilliantly presented video. I was entertained and learned a lot in the process. Cheers!

[@MichaelBeeny]

Thank you Songwriter, I appreciate your comments.

[@donrickmiller]

Great video and excellent points. My only counter point, is that when you do go to the cinema (at least here in the USA, where we prefer the term "movie theater"), it is not in a blacked out room... there is ambient light... there are dimmed lights above you, lights along the carpet to help you find your seat in the dark, and lit green or red exit signs to the right and/or left of the screen. Also, the screen in the theater is, of course, white... so you never really get "true" blacks there either. Even when film was film (most theaters use a DLP projector now), a light passing through black celluloid would allow "some" light through, and thus you don't really get black, you get some very dark shade of gray. DLP is actually better at blacks than LCD, because it's using millions of tiny mirrors to reflect light to each pixel on the screen, and if there's a black place in the frame, it doesn't point a mirror to that spot, resulting in no light at all there (as opposed to light filtered through a blacked out LCD pixel, where, as you stated, some light gets through). Therefore the gray you get on a white screen there is from the ambient light in the room. Therefore, I would argue that you don't really need a room that's so blacked out that you can't see your hand in front of your face (exaggeration noted) to get a theater-like experience. OLED is the only thing that will give you true blacks a the moment, and as you mentioned, they top out at 77" for around $3500USD. I definitely agree with, and recommend an ALR screen over a painted wall though.

[@MichaelBeeny]

I know all about EXIT signs that cast light all over parts of the screen in cinemas. The fire people don't care about that at all. It was always a fight with them in placing the exit signs in a place they liked versus one that I liked. Sadly they usually would win!

[@MichaelBeeny]

Everything is a compromise Donrick. So many regulations and safety requirements in cinemas these days. I'm lucky that after repairs on the sound or projectors, I could view the film in complete darkness. No need for safety lighting. Wow what a difference. In UCI cinemas, I used to make sure all safety lighting was kept well away from the screen. Sadly, not all cinemas follow this practice.

[@Dstonephoto]

Wow, I must be the only one excited to hear this guy’s opinion considering he’s significantly more qualified to voice an opinion and counterpoint on this subject matter. If you guys want your mind blown look at SMPTE videos. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your expertise on this topic, as there’s a lot of nuance missing from most of these poorly informed and half baked videos. I’m hooked ! I’ve been studying optics on my own and I find the field of imaging fascinating. I’ve been wondering whether hybrid front & rear- lit and stacked projector configurations could hold the key to superior imaging. There’s a ton of gotchas in this domain which truly baffle me. Thanks for doing this.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Thank you for the kind words. Projectors are getting better and cheaper but there is no way they will EVER look good in a light room. It's simple science, not opinion..

[@Dstonephoto]

@@MichaelBeeny Thanks you. So, then; this begs the question: what projection technology or setup is necessary in order to match OLED or other gorgeous displays. Would it be fair to say that the way in which LED and other modern displays function yields a much more cost-effective option than the costs that would be required in order for modern projectors to match the output. I assume that like any other field that this is a game of tradeoffs. Could fresnel panels and a rear-lit approach attenuate the lit-room problem? Have a great day, and thank you for this. You're one of the first people I've seen on KZbin with the background to command the authority necessary in order for the rest of us mortals to wrap our heads around this domain. I've read bits and pieces about the challenges cinema went through especially once the likes of anamorphic projection such as Vistavision and co came on the scene. Did you ever do 70mm projection?

[@MichaelBeeny]

@@Dstonephoto The biggest issue for front projected pictures is the screen. It's meant to reflect light back to the viewer. Sadly, the screen does not know from where the light is coming from. So it reflects all light. You can get special screens that only reflect light from the projector and less so than the ambient light. They do make it possible to view with some light in the room. If your main requirement is big, a projector is really the only option at present. The kind of picture you get and the amount of light you can put up with, is up to you. However, a OLED or a few LCD TVs always give a higher definition picture and look much better in light. Regarding myself, I was still at school when I started projection work in the evenings. 35mm Mono lol. As a projectionist, I have never projected 70mm but as an engineer I have set up many a system in cinemas. I was chief engineer with UCI cinemas. in the UK mostly dealing with the sound systems and projection equipment in new builds and in a number of countries. Digital video was just starting when I left. In fact, we had 1 of 3 only of the very first digital projectors in the UK, Manchester, Print works to be exact. Our first screening was Toy Story.

[@sdgelectronics]

Thanks for the information Michael!

[@MichaelBeeny]

Thanks for visiting my channel, you are most welcome.

[@jaz4280]

Good video for people who don't want to try new things. I have UST projector in my living room, cost about 1700 dollars for last six months. Projected on a wall. Use it for films and tv shows mainly in the evening, very clear picture at 120 inch, very impressive and immersive. I use my Sony tv for watching news and very few programs, as there is not much else to see. I have them both in the same room with out any clutter. You can't keep postponing new experience in life as time is not infinite.

[@johnlim7720]

Try and get the best possible one you can afford. Like I always say " BUY ONCE CRY ONCE ".The UST projector's won't work even in my totally black dedicated HT room. That's because all my equipment is located at the back. I set this up on purpose many years ago so that the amps/players/processors etc lights won't be a distraction as compared to having them at the front. If using a UST I'd then have to run cables to the front.

[@MrLouis966]

You could run your components through your receiver and just do one Arc hdmi to the projector. If you do that, go fiber optic hdmi, less signal loss on long runs.

[@SFBenjaminK]

well i am in U.S , not British, gonna buy VAVA CHROMA short throw laser projector in 2 weeks release such as is Triple laser technology for $2800 /%40 off & VAVA ambient .06gain ALR 120" screen for $800 also %40 off on launch day, i get top notch bright pic quality, deep blks & vivid pops colors for $3500, gonna have a 120" TV in living room with day light in, there is 100s videos on utube, even on older model VAVA & about these short throw laser projectors shows u how AMAZING & BRIGHT is of course with RIGHT ALR SCREEN with few lights on , U GOT it all wrong , u dont get OLED pic on projectors, ya u can if u pay $6000 & a lot more for TV in 85 inch or pay 20.000 for projector , BUT U cant f*n beat that in value u getting in 120" size in price instead 85" & in pic quality & brightness in day time, in these days with RIGHT short throw laser projectors & right ALR screen .i don't care who said what, a lots videos out there shows u the PROOF with ordinary people , NO brainier, enough said 👌👍

[@adekunlebashiru9880]

U are correct, i just order my VAVA Chroma plus the 120'' ALR Screen for only $2799 for both on their launching day which is 09/13/2021. I can't wait to receive mine soon.

[@SFBenjaminK]

@@adekunlebashiru9880 me 2 did the same on that day , so few of my friends 2, i cant believe they throw their NEW VAVA 120" ALR screen free at it ..No one dose that ..going down the BEST deal of the year & projector , i dont think U cant even get that on BLK Friday deals , they killing it , AWESOME short throw laser projector is $4700 just for projector , we got the EPIC deal ...But looks like shipping would be on NOV OR DEC, such as i don't care , not hurry, longest I'm locked up in that price, Glad u got one 👍👌

[@MichaelBeeny]

I hope you are still happy AFTER you receive the projector that you have not yet seen, ohh delivery date put back again!

[@SFBenjaminK]

@@MichaelBeeny i done alots research before purchasing this projector, i know is NOT Sony , LG or Samsung paying $1 or $2 thousand extra for just a brand name not realty for the unit , first VAVA my friends bought it because was really good in price wise/pic & feathers they STILL after 2 years pass they super happy with it & pic is stunning compare to other short throw laser projectors or look at utube is FULL of these first VAVA videos what normal people bought & thinks about it , About this NEW CHROMA, they send it to some selected utube people to review, they cant make video yet , but they says pic & blks is VERY GOOD & VIVD, couple of pre-video thoughts about it from them, in utube u would NEVER get any projectors or deal NOW or 6 months from now on triple laser technology ALPD 4./HDR10 in any BRAND in there epic deal they had , top of that %40 off , they throw FREE 100 or 120 inch ALR screen at it in last minute , was shocking to everyone, NO ONE dose that , i would BET on it. .for delay reason they sold ALOT of these in the first 3 days in over millions was shocking to them & wasn't that much unit from the get-go in that show & pre-orders , so i am not worry about it , i know is GREAT projector from my experience & u would NEVER get deal like that on top projector & in feathers like they offer in long while from any brand or companies, even on blk Fridays ..so few months delay don't bother me or should anyone, they trying their best & deed.

[@SealedOrPorted]

Hello Mike, a bit off topic, but I am wondering if cinema screens were always white or at one point actually silver as historically referenced as “The Silver Screen.” Any ideas on this subject from your life experience?

[@MichaelBeeny]

Hi Paul, you are quite correct. A matt white screen gives no gain in light but it has a very even light reflection. Often used with wide auditoriums. Also the cheapest to make. A so called silver screen has a paint sprayed onto it, different formulas offer different gains, ie more light reflected but at the expense of becoming quite directional. Best used in long narrow cinemas. Can mean you can use a lower powered lamp. This kind of screen does look good in the cinema but is prone to problems in manufacturing due to spraying issues. I have rejected many such screens in the past with blotchy patches on them. The subject of screens is more complex than you might think! Did you know a cinema screen is probably 20% hole? not a solid surface at all. It's to let the sound through.

[@ford1546]

very good video. Waell explained. Think that many do not know this.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Not a pre amp anywhere!!!

[@warkito]

very good video, and it was very entertaining. Usually a 24 min video gets me bored, but this didn't.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Well done, lasting a full 24 minuets. I did waffle on abit for sure. I think the point is really not to buy without a demonstration. If you find what you see is OK for you, then proceed with the purchase.

[@TheVoicefrombelow]

Very useful video. Pity I didn`t see it before putting in a pre-order for the new Vava chroma. I`d be curious what you think of the chroma based on the information available. From what I can tell it doesn`t project at 24 frames per second. It does have memc, which is supposed to smooth out motion blur.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Projectors with circuitry to TRY and smooth motion blur does kind of work but usually has the side effect of artifacts and jaggies. I would be interested in your views after you receive it, might be a while as I understand delivery has been delayed!

[@TheVoicefrombelow]

@@MichaelBeeny yeah it`s now January rather than October, but it was already at January when I put the order in. Still, I`m pretty confident that it will be January based on vava's track record. I hope that I`m not too disappointed in picture quality after "upgrading" from a 55" Oled.

[@MichaelBeeny]

@@TheVoicefrombelow Well Fitz, the picture WILL be much bigger and bigger is impressive for sure. As to better, well, do let me know what you think. I really am interested. Mike

[@Fessant]

AWOL LTV3500 MARCH 2023 finally will have 24p

[@sanjayarnalkar1449]

Nice review n thanks for that… U say u r addressing d layman, but ur demands for perfection, for d Samsung primer projector r that of a professional…😃 Perfect black is a recent development after v got d oled’s…where was perfect black before that…? If not 24fps, then does Samsung specify how many fps….? Wish u mentioned something about d technology change in d projectors, from lamps to lazers …

[@4seasons546]

Thank you 🙏 for the information 😊

[@omegafire6253]

in my living room i got my 55 inch tv and above i got a 100 inch pull down using optoma ultra short projector, and its been an ideal experince. people that get disapointed with projectors clearly had unrealistic expectations. the only disapointment i got from a previous projectors was from a lamp based ultra short throw and got board of it aftet knowing there are better alternatives with steroids and affordable enough to justiffy after getting cheaper in second market.

[@lattiboy99]

Your frame rate comments are totally valid, but video games and sports are the primary uses of these UST projectors, so it’s kind of a niche feature to put in most of them. People seem to care much more about input lag then native 24p.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Yes I would agree, if games are you're thing lag is number one priority. As I will NEVER be playing games on a projector, mostly films I hope you see my point.

[@johngabris9690]

i have to say you are 100% correct while some say projectors work well i would ask to see their guide dog this i why the cinema shows films in total darkness and their projectors cost over hundreds of thousands of pounds

[@Arvidje]

U are right in theory.. but in pratical , those movies are smooth and great with minimal artifacts on those projectors.. those blacks are fine its better then lcd with a proper alr screen

[@Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

Thanks for this video ! It’s been quite helpful. I have a question please. The top border of the image projected onto bare wall from my Xgimi aura is wavy at few points, I am sure the wall is straight. Is the wavy pattern expected on wall projected images ?

[@MichaelBeeny]

It could be poor linearity from the projector or the wall surface. Easy to test just put the projector on a different wall temporally and see if things still have the same issue.

[@toddroy9558]

About the black problem, why not use a black screen!? If seen projections on a black screen and the black levels are much much better then any white screen. But nobody uses them. What do you think about using a black screen?

[@sweetchinmusiq1623]

Ambient Light Reflecting Screen works best with ultra short throws

[@kekethetoad]

It sounds like you're down at the beach with that wind noise hahaha

[@Hitman006xp]

So far i've a BenQ TH681 3D DLP Projector on the ceiling and a cheap 99€ rollable 108" Screen that's a little wabbly at the Sides. In december i'll get my new VAVA Chroma with 100" VAVA ALR Screen. I've used my current projector with 60hz mode so i guess i'll be fine with that. I'll have to test and see If the picture will be good enought at daylight. Even with the BenQ it's already okish so i guess with a ALR Screen i should get good results. Most time it's getting used in the evening anyway... Just hope 3D works well as it's very important for me. New TVs are dead for me just because the lack of 3D. Currently have a LG 55UH950V one of the last with 3D but i'll sell it If the VAVA Chroma performs well.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Please let us know honestly what you think of it, when it arrives. Always good to hear what real people think as apposed to a paid or sponsored reviewer.

[@maximo5737]

This us awesome 😎 thank you

[@mauriciob8260]

What about a PC, I use my Sony 85 inches 4k TV as a monitor for my game on Pc and as a HTPC for Plex media server, láser tv will work on Windows?, I almost pull the trigger on Hisense laser TV but watching your experience and explanation it's holding me back. 🤔

[@MichaelBeeny]

Yes the same for me. I keep looking but a TV will always beat a projector. It's really contrast and watching in almost complete darkness. A big picture does look good for sure but no where as good as a large TV. Prices of large TVs are getting lower all the time and projectors are also. My advice would be to find a dealer (might be hard) to give you a demo, that will confirm if you should get one or not. THE SCREEN WILL MAKE OR BREAK THE EXPERENCE.

[@Francesco91gh2]

Thank you very much for this video. I'm looking to buy one of these Projector but i think i don't undestand your opinion about 24fps. In some video-reviews of these Projector the image seems fleekering to me, or even more laggy. I don't know why; they have 60hz! But the problem that you told about 24fps it's the same in Netflix? Because i'd like to buy one only for games and netflix,prime video etc... i don't think i will buy BD or others. So i'm asking you. The problem of 24 fps or the laggy images, occour in these scenario?

[@MichaelBeeny]

Viewing any film made for 24FPS (99%) the image movement will not be smooth. You can try to smooth things out but then you get digital artifacts, both look bad. Can I suggest you look at this video, goes into more detail than I did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKjVpmWJlJaKppI Before you buy, get a demo, some people don't notice this, they just like a big picture even if it's full of issues. At least you now know, and you can make a choice. Let me know what you find.

[@sajjadAli-oi7op]

Is it a good idea to buy a refurbished short throw projector with lamp been changed ?

[@MichaelBeeny]

This type of projector does not use a lamp but an LED. Lamps do need replacing after 2000hours or so but an LED should last for the life of the projector. They can of course fail, like any part. Such a failure will need, probably to be returned to the maker for refurbishment. Is this a good idea? I don't know. You are the first to ask this.

[@alphafuturestrading8278]

UST projectors do not work on a normal classic projection screen as it will create a bended image no matter how much you adjust the screen size and focus etc. It will work well on a white wall or a screen with a structure at the back of it so the whole projection surface is perfectly flat and stretched. No review tells you that however much of a “specialist”, each “expert” claims to be. Pretty basic though isn’t it!?

[@mrtrader4628]

Okay you just made me feel badly about my next buy, Formovie ultra short throw projector and an elite screen clr3 light canceling screen 103 in

[@MichaelBeeny]

I think the best advice is you must get a good demo from a dealer. If it looks good and OK to you, then buy one.

[@jad7306]

Do you know anything about ommc or bomaker ust?

[@MichaelBeeny]

The quite and honest answer Jad is no, sorry.

[@SaiyanJin85]

Thank you so much for this. I can tolerate the not so good blacks but the 24fps thing you mention is brutal. Practically it makes the movie completely unwatchable.

[@wjbt3]

how racist!!

[@11Forty6]

Interesting, maybe your next step would be to actually review some of these projectors? I was going to buy a Vava so can you start there?

[@MichaelBeeny]

I doubt many manufactures would supply me test units, they don't like my stile of reviews, the truth!!

[@romeoquintero6628]

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[@romeoquintero6628]

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[@victorpulos823]

Good video

[@mdx4145]

I really enjoyed the video and great language as non-native, but I don't get this fanatisism about black in the picture. It's important but there are also other equally importent aspects of the picture where projectors do really well. Even in cinemas black is not a true black, but still people go there for the size of the screen. It's obvious that no projector can produce 100% black as the projector itself is also the source of light even if any other light sources are blocked, which breaks the dark in the room anyway and the light emited by the projector lits the entire the room. Also a human eye perceives black differently depending on the other parts of the image and other conditions. It will vary in the picture that is generrally dark and the picture with very bright parts. Also it would differ when an eye has a refference to a greater level of 'black' such as mentioned black strips on a diffrent ratio picture. BTW very good spot about UST projectors I was not thinking about, that without dedicated screen they will expose any imperfections on the wall. Greets from Poland

[@MichaelBeeny]

I largely agree with you. The point is really some projectors do a better job than others. STP are really made to replace a TV and work in none dark rooms. As such they have high light outputs, making dark scenes over bright and blacks gray. Standard projectors are mainly meant to be used in a dark room where the contrast looks much better. As you said big pictures do look good and if poor contrast is OK with you go for it. Just a point, film has a much better contrast than video projectors (in a dark room) These days all cinema is video! Some people, the young, have never seen film projected.

[@paul_wiggin]

TVs have a long set of problems of their own kind. 1. Fragile and not kid-proof at all. 2. OLEDs will always suffer from burnout and limited brightness 3. Energy efficiency is crap. 4. Viewing angles never perfect. Backlit bleeding increases with viewing angle, reducing contrast. OLED suffer from color shift. 5. Local dimming always will have blooming. 6. Pixel response rate is magnitudes faster with DLP and even some LcOS or 3LCD projectors. Size matters here, i guess. OLEDs suffer with switching from black, so being technically super fast and responsive.. you will get disappointed with this issue. 7. Price... Projectors are getting cheaper much faster than TVs of a larger size. 8. Last, but not least issue: all TVs suffer from glare and reflections. And while being technically able to provide blacks under ambient light - they never actually do that. Glossy screens will have reflections of bright objects and even yourself watching the show, which is extremely distracting during dimmer scenes, and matte/anti-glare coating will suffer the same way ALR screens suffer. Making them not much better than that. So basically TVs have a huge list of issues. Because of that, models which dealt good with some of these issues usually cost a lot, usually more than 1000$ for a screen of 65 inch size. And none of them have eliminated all of the problems listed above. Except maybe MicroLED displays which are currently available only for business purposes and cost like a brand new Ferrari, still being limited to lower resolutions and not suitable for consumer purposes. Projectors issues are mainly related to ambient light and this issue can be fixed with few cans of a black matte paint. PS: i do agree with every point Michael said about. But i had to mention the list of TV issues just to remind people that TVs are not perfect either, so they would remember that and consider some issues that are related to both imaging technologies.

[@robzilla69]

I'm sitting here watching my Optoma p2 with lots of ambient room light, enough so my wife can read. And you are 100% wrong. A good ALR low gain screen where the sun doesn't shine directly on it combined with at least 2500 ANSI lumens, and it is completely watchable. Obviously, dark rooms are better for every watching situation.

[@MichaelBeeny]

I think you have summed it up correctly! Yes, it IS watchable. But for good colour, contrast and a picture that looks good, you do need dark.

[@robzilla69]

That is the purpose of these laser projectors. Not dark theater viewing, you don't need 3000+ ANSI lumens for that. They work great for what they are intended. You shouldn't try to compare to a dark theater experience.

[@charlesmckoy3597]

I totally disagree with you.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Well Charles, we are mostly free to express an opinion and I respect yours, and your contribution and opinion is most welcome.

[@TriMuXx]

Lol, The Haters have arrived. Definitely an anti ultra short throw projector video. USTs have just STARTED to hit mainstream so the technology will keep improving with each new version. Video forgets to mention that in a bright room on a flat panel TV when you see a dark scene with those inky blacks what you end up watching is yourself and your family sitting on a couch staring at the TV. Close the blinds you say? Well, why can’t I see my inky black screens on a shiny, glossy, flat panel tv with the sun behind me and all of the windows wide open? It’s supposed to handle the sun better, right? Lol. This is the FUD people are trying to spread. I would rather be able to sit at any angle and see the full image instead of seeing my backyard through the reflective flat panel TV screen during a dark scene in my favorite show/movie. No, projectors aren’t perfect. Yes, you’ll get a massive 100”+ image with lights on and blinds open. You can even get an ambient light rejecting screen if you have painted all of your walls white in your glass house with the blinds open letting all of the sun in, and it will help, but not even a flat panel TV can work perfectly in sunny conditions. Stop the hate. Recognize the benefits and setbacks of both and realize that modern technology has allowed projectors to maintain a very good image in 2021 even with the blinds pulled.

[@MichaelBeeny]

It is an amazing piece of kit for sure. No one likes a big screen more than me. I have been in the cinema industry for over 50 years. I appreciate your opinion, this video was an off the cuff quick look at what I found. Many people have no idea what to expect. At least they, hopefully, have a better idea what to expect and judge for themselves.

[@TriMuXx]

@@MichaelBeeny correct, but as long as they know that flat panel TVs have their cons that projectors don’t share, then they can make a proper decision, but misinforming about daylight conditions never affecting glossy flat panel TVs is a bad thing to do. Misleading to those who will watch this video.

[@toddroy9558]

Why not just use a black screen? You get better blacks and contrast. I don’t understand why more people don’t use black screens.

[@HeavyInstinct]

I honestly don't think the man in the video you're commenting under here is a "hater" per se. He does make some good points that people should be aware of. However I honestly couldn't agree with the rest of your comments more. I've always been a big screen enthusiast. So through out the late '80s, '90s and well into the 2000's I had large rear projection TVs. The last one I had, came with a glossy, reflective screen "protector" (over the actual rear projection screen) that I immediately removed because I couldn't stand the reflective nature of it. When the time came to replace it I found myself shopping for large flat panel TVs as by this time, that was the new norm for a big screen experience. As I was looking at them in the stores I was again reminded how much I can't stand glossy, reflective screens. After going all those years looking at rear projection screens with no reflective nature to them at all, the reflections that can be seen on the surface of a standard TV screen we're just screaming out at me. This becomes even more obvious when you start looking at really large screen sizes. This In large part is how I ended up with a projector setup in my living room for the last 12 years or so. Yes this type of setup has its own list of cons. However as you pointed out, so do TVs. Is a projector going to be the best choice in a bright sunroom? Of course not! However I've never liked watching a TV in that type of a room anyway. Even a good TVs image will wash out and become hard to watch when you have enough ambient light hitting the screen directly. With a nice bright projector and just a little bit of ambient light control (blinds closed is all it takes for me) and especially if you have an ambient light rejecting screen, one can achieve very pleasing results from a projector set up even in a living room environment. I couldn't be happier with mine.

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@@toddroy9558 "Why not just use a black screen? You get better blacks and contrast" Yes you will get better blacks. However you do not get better "contrast". Contrast is just short for contrast ratio which means the difference between your blackest blacks and your brightest whites. When you use a black screen, the white level suffers greatly. So the brightest whites in an image will appear as a dingy sort of light gray instead of a bright brilliant white like it should be. Also while absolute black will be much improved on a black screen your grayscale will be affected to where the darkest parts of the grayscale will be "crushed" into black. This means that Shadow detail will be lost in darker scenes and movies. This makes it difficult to even see what's going on in the dark environments of movies like Underworld for example.