Umarex Zelos Bottle Conversion: Increase Your Shots per Fill

[@stevengoodman3498]

When i tried to air up my carbon fiber 5 liter bottle after installation to 4350 psi the Snowpeak regularor blew the burst disk at 4000 psi. It says 5k stamped on the burst disk part but trust me you don't want to be close to your rifle when this happens! I checked with Wes at Airgun Archery Fun in Canada and he confirmed the regulator is not designed to handle 4350 psi. His site even warns about doing this and says even with the carbon fiber bottle only air up to 3625 psi. I wound up replacing the burst disk with a Captain oring 5k burst disk and all is well. So dont get yourself hurt or injured and just run your gun at the recommended factory pressure! . I get 80 shots per fill in 22 and thats plenty! Be safe everyone!

[@InspirePrecision]

Good to know, thanks for the info!

[@memememe2674]

The bipod is really pointless in that position.

[@cesarvarela5438]

They should’ve made the regulator capable of more since the tank is removable, I put a huben power on my notos and I’m filling it up to 4,350 psi no problem, maybe someone will make an external reg in the future who knows

[@OnTargetAirgunner]

There it is, that's the gun of the year 👏👏👏

[@InspirePrecision]

Certainly a contender on the less expensive side! Great how it was stock, but now even better!

[@kurtthomas4746]

Looks much better like that. I thought the gun was ugly before, I might get only now. Thanks for the information!

[@InspirePrecision]

I agree, definitely looks more balanced!

[@brorjordas1979]

"I like working on my stuff.." is probably even a better reason than just conveniently bought.. 😁👍🏻

[@InspirePrecision]

Absolutely, wrenching on things is half the fun!

[@rickr9055]

I appreciate this video. I bought the exact bottle and pre-ordered the adapter from Wes.

[@keithsileo8031]

Now we need a bottle build video for the notos you have there in the background 🤙

[@InspirePrecision]

I've got lots more planned on the Notos including a bottle build/upgrade video, Stay tuned!

[@le3045acp]

mines been a bottle 3 days after i got it 13 cubic inches and gives 120 shots at 735 to 750fps with 15.89 jsbs great truck or walk around gun without worrying about running out of air anytime soon

[@paulsurbanhunter2457]

Paul's urban hunter has a ton of videos on the snow peak Love your videos keep them coming

[@InspirePrecision]

Thank you! I'll take a look!

[@paulsurbanhunter2457]

Hey , if you wanna do an install video on my slug power valve I will send you one

[@cesarvarela5438]

My man, I was just doing my daily instagram browse, and I saw Huben Power made a regulator for the Zelos specifically with a pressure reduction from 300 bar to 250 so as not to hurt the internal reg, it looks amazing

[@InspirePrecision]

Yes, I supposed I had a small part to play in its developement with Huben Power. They will be sending me one soon for testing and evaluation. When I have it in hand I will be releasing a video review. It does look good for sure!

[@cesarvarela5438]

@ I’m so looking forward to that, truly the Zelos looks like it might be my next upgrade from my current notos(also with a Huben reg and the 420cc bottle, it’s easily getting me around 180 shots) or I was also considering a Reximex Throne Gen 2 but the Zelos looks amazing and from a bunch of reviews I’ve seen it’s great and someone else told me out the box it’s more powerful and accurate than the Reximex

[@InspirePrecision]

@@cesarvarela5438 I'd take the Zelos and make the upgrades IMO.

[@cesarvarela5438]

@ yeah that’s what I’m considering the most as well

[@gboutdoors5198]

I’m glad there are so many after market parts for the zelos considering it has a lot of the same designs as the snow peak m60

[@jeansandmyshirt]

Same gun. Just stamped for umarex.

[@gboutdoors5198]

@@jeansandmyshirt Yep thought so lol!

[@Brotherofair]

Should add one of my power plenums on it. That would make it perfect. Nice setup brother

[@InspirePrecision]

I'll have to take a look! BTW, Nice shooting in your last video!

[@Brotherofair]

@@InspirePrecision Thanx brother. Nice videos. Keep it up 💪🏻

[@MrVoltar1]

Where are they available?

[@kurtthomas4746]

Best estimate on shot count now on reg, you think it’s double or maybe even more than that. Curious also if you have tested a Mactivty arms yet. I just bought one, have not shot it yet, but based on several reviews out there, it’s a real performer at $150.00 less than this. You earned my subscription today, like your presentation, etc. Keep up the great work.

[@InspirePrecision]

Thank you! I haven't sat behind the chronograph yet (with the bottle), but for the 500cc bottle at 3625psi expect around 45-50 shots on a regulator setting of 1900-2000psi. With light 20gr pellets you can tune further down and still achieve 890fps, maybe pick up another 10 or so shots. Bump that tank pressure to 4500psi and pick up even more, I'm sure the Zelos can handle it as it has a long history as the M60. I don't currently have any MA rifles, but I have had my eye on them. Might have to get one in for the future!

[@CobosDoesItAll]

​@InspirePrecision will it handle 4500 psi?

[@InspirePrecision]

@@CobosDoesItAll please see the pinned comment on this video as it has the best explanation on fill pressure.

[@joedokes8641]

Installed a Saber Tactical pic rail extension on my M60B Snowpeak .

[@InspirePrecision]

Do you think that's worth the $80 to move the bipod up a few inches?

[@joedokes8641]

@@InspirePrecision Yes it was worth it . Luckily mine wasn't that much . I can move my bipod up to 7 inches forward if I choose to . Nothing is cheap theses days and the build quality is second to none with an Arca-type quick release built in .

[@kurtthomas4746]

Thanks for the reply.

[@goldentrucker7921]

Do you know anywhere else I can buy the parts for the conversion? Archery is out of stock?

[@InspirePrecision]

no where else currently

[@diontoi5497]

We need plenum additional

[@pauleddy5146]

Nice. I was wondering what it'd take to do a conversion. Thanks. Looks like an upcoming project!

[@Tom-jw1pe]

Can’t find this part anywhere 😢

[@InspirePrecision]

Wes is working hard getting more of these in stock.

[@Tom-jw1pe]

Yes I know… I bug him a lot. I ended up getn one for the notos

[@KINGBREAKBARREL]

That baby is looking like an FX air rifle now😂🎯🎯🎯🎯😎🤟

[@InspirePrecision]

All the looks, most of the performance, and a fraction of the cost!

[@cesarvarela5438]

Heya man, I saw on eBay a little adapter that makes the zelos compatible with a secondary regulator and 300 bar bottles, and its made to work with the huben black hawk cricket regulator which the seller also has on hand and sells em with the adapter, you might wanna look into that, would make for a very interesting video imo, and would of course mean that the zelos could get further increases in shot count

[@InspirePrecision]

I have a Huben regulator I just put on a Blitz, and I was thinking of the Zelos as I was installing it. An option for sure!

[@cesarvarela5438]

@ it would be awesome seeing more of those mods

[@InspirePrecision]

@@cesarvarela5438 I'll be doing a video on the Blitz regulator for sure!

[@cesarvarela5438]

@ I’ll be looking forward to that

[@denverk7062]

I'm considering getting the Zelos and putting a 700cc bottle on it. However I'm a bit worried about the bottles length and weight being a strength issue at the connection. Does the larger tank feel flimsy at all to you? Like would you be worried about breaking the tank off if you bumped something lightly with it, or had to shake the gun?

[@InspirePrecision]

I have never worried about the larger bottle. Unless you are dropping the rifle, there will be no issues with strength at the fitting.

[@gumbystown]

People should buy the Artemis m60b you get two more caliber choices of 30 & 9 mm and it doesn't cost you anymore

[@InspirePrecision]

It has been my position that a large portion of the US only know about Snowpeak/Artemis/etc because they were re-released under the Umarex name. Whatever you choose to get, there can be no doubt the designs are superb and low cost.

[@gumbystown]

@InspirePrecision no I've known about the snow peak M60 for over 2 years and another bonus feature I forgot to mention is that the m60b comes with a moderator that you can get that stackable so you can take out baffle sections or add baffle sections to tune

[@xottavento]

@@gumbystown I have my snowpeak for over a year now, since the beginning this rifle is been shooting pellets and slugs beautifully, right now I'm using Tremor Slugs by TonyFL in 30 gr @ 949 FPS with 60 FT Lbs. Got to give the Chinese the Credit for a good, accurate and so far reliable PCP @ a fraction of an FX.

[@xottavento]

BTW last practice with the M60B Snowpeak was @ 150 yards. 100 yards was getting boring!

[@UmarexAir]

Nice video!

[@InspirePrecision]

@UmarexAir Thank you! Quick question, is Umarex going to be releasing caliber change kits for the Zelos or additional calibers in the base configuration? The m60 has rifles in 30 and 35 cal in addition to the 22 and 25, and it would be nice to be able to change out calibers or have a Zelos in a larger caliber. I can get some parts for the m60 and convert, but it would be great for your US customers if you considered this for the US market.

[@saberraider]

Hope they get to mexico, been wanting a 22 since i saw it as the m60...

[@gumbystown]

Airgun archery fun in Canada sells them for the same price you get ripped off by Umarex

[@saberraider]

@@gumbystown nice to know, I've talked to wes about sending stuff to mexico... Might as well get an m60

[@gmanneod8085]

Nice bottle conversion on the Zelos. it looks cool. Just wondering how it affected the balance on the air rifle? Are you happy with this conversion or would you do it differently, now?

[@InspirePrecision]

With the cheap heavy bottle it did bias the weight forward significantly. I suppose the only thing I would do different is put on a light 580cc or 700cc CF bottle but it would have been 4x more expensive. Since I actually bought everything myself, cost is always a consideration. Other that that, I suggest everyone do it for the increased shot count, to bad the video may have caused the parts to be sold out for a while, but good for Wes up in CA.

[@pete7894]

Nice video, Where did you get that trigger guard rail and or make and model of it. Thanks

[@InspirePrecision]

Thanks! It was bought from here: airgunarcheryfun.ca/snowpeak-m60b-trigger-guard-with-pic-rail/ but alas, all the items I used in this build are now sold out, likely the result of the video.

[@pete7894]

@@InspirePrecision thanks again

[@cleversononorio2580]

ola my friend ...where can I get the trigger guard with picatyni rail that you show at 2.35 minutes into the video...where can I buy one like it...sorry for the English...I'm Brazilian...thanks

[@InspirePrecision]

I got mine here: airgunarcheryfun.ca/snowpeak-m60b-trigger-guard-with-pic-rail/ as of me writing this message they are still in stock.

[@Crimson_626]

The m60b adapter is on back order......."Can you share a link on Amazon where you can get an Adapter for the air tank? I would like to get the adapter from Amazon than Canada? thanks

[@InspirePrecision]

there is no other place than to get this from Wes at Airgunarcheryfun.ca I have talked to him and he will be getting a new batch in soon.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Very nice.🤠🇺🇸

[@InspirePrecision]

Thanks 👍

[@air-gunners-unite]

I subscribed, I thought it was the least I can do for your valuable experience, also thumbs did a up! So I have an Umarex Zelos on order and want to do the bottle and possible barrel band as well. Can I get them through Utah airguns? Is the barrel band something that has been created for my gun or do I have to wait a bit for someone to make them? Also, I am wondering if a Donny Fl will thread and meet up with the end of the floating Barrel or is there say 2 inches or more of space from the end of the barrel to the entrance of the Suppressor? Donny Fl will give you a size up from 25cal to a 30cal if the barrel doesn't butt up against the suppressor to avoid the round from clipping the suppressor. Thanks again for your valuable information.

[@InspirePrecision]

Thank you! There is likely a bottle band already mode for the snowpeak m60b somewhere, try searching as the zelos is pretty much identical. We will be releasing our own style of band soon, it's just not ready yet. I would suggest a 30 cal moderator as there is quite a space between the end of the barrel and the end of the shroud, but any standard 1/2-20 moderator will fit. Happy shooting, the zelos is a laser beam!

[@hillbillybackwoods]

The poor mans FX....LMAO.

[@InspirePrecision]

...and?

[@wannabemgtow2540]

I hope Umarex gets smart and brings out a 30 caliber version, I know snow peak has them out already on that caliber, even up to 35. I'm thinking they haven't done it yet because they're going to make one with a bigger plenum to make it more powerful, or they don't want it to compete with the Umarex Gauntlet 30 caliber that they have out already. For me, I'd rather wait because I like the compactness of a bullpup For hunting in the woods. It is not fun and I have tried to go out there in the woods with a large gun like a Umarex gauntlet It feels like you're carrying around a muzzleloader.

[@InspirePrecision]

The gauntlet is very large for sure. I would make sense for Umarex to do what you suggest since the parts are already out there, or at least come out with caliber change kits like what are available for FX.

[@eddiemoit3633]

Can you do a shot string with the bottle with 34g pellets i want to shoot 32g zan slugs at least 920 fpe

[@InspirePrecision]

I've shot the JSB King Heavy to about 860fps, you would have to take the hammer spring up and tune to get any slugs that fast. It is likely possible. You can see that JSB shot string in one of my posts when I did the initial chronograph test.

[@franknash4235]

Could that cylinder be used for the Notos??

[@InspirePrecision]

The Zelos cylinder is much to large (by diameter and length) for the notos and would not fit correctly under the barrel.

[@MrVoltar1]

Credit where credit is due.

[@edarenlackey]

Can the rest of the gun handle 4500psi?

[@InspirePrecision]

There is a 5000psi burst disc installed, but we likely will never receive a good answer to this question. The Snowpeak gauge I replaced does only read up to 250bar in the green, so that is one indication, but it only was designed for a 250bar aluminum bottle. I actually expect most that convert to a bottle to just try it out and see if there are any leaks just like any FX gun. There are tons of people running the Notos at 4500psi with a bottle conversion, so I expect no adverse effects with the Zelos breach internals and passageways. Time will tell if the regulators wear out with higher pressure. The Umarex regulator I changed to still reads the 3625psi in the green, I'll likely use it at that pressure.

[@markmenard5518]

Want the adapter where to purchase?

[@InspirePrecision]

links are in the video description.

[@cesarvarela5438]

What’s the shot count on this with the bottle, I already ordered my notos a hubenpower valve and a 420cc bottle, but I’m at the same time looking into future air rifle upgrades lol, it’s either this, the reximex throne gen 2, the FX Maverick VP or AGT Vulcan 3

[@InspirePrecision]

I'd expect around 70, but that will depend on final regulator settings.

[@cesarvarela5438]

@@InspirePrecision ohh alright that’s a decent amount

[@francisambegnankone8874]

where to find the tube to bottle conversion kit?

[@InspirePrecision]

airgunarcheryfun.ca/m60b-new-style-bottle-valve-with-fill-nipple-and-gauge/

[@TheGmen20001]

What can we do about the gauge being off center?

[@InspirePrecision]

Not a whole lot, you can't or at least wouldn't want to shim that fitment since it is a oring sealing surface on both sides of the steel bottle fitting. I don't mind the clocking of this one, it's in a nice position to look at. You could I suppose take some material off the bottom of the bottle adapter, but that would relocate how the threads and bottle seal line up.

[@tandtoutdoors5154]

Does this push slugs decently?

[@InspirePrecision]

I've only had a chance to shoot pellets so far, but considering the Snowpeak m60 can shoot slugs I would expect this to as well. It sure has the power and adjustability for heavier stuff, I just don't have any good slugs in 25cal.

[@georgeabernathy6646]

I have it in 22 caliber, and yes, it does! The accuracy is great out to 150 yd that I have tested so far. .217 30gn.FN and HP.

[@jdog6386]

I did the bottle with my VEVOR compressor tried to bleed it all the air came out what did I do wrong

[@InspirePrecision]

I can't say for sure, but it sounds like the one way pressure valve in the foster fitting is too loose or the seal is faulty. I would ask Wes with Airgunarcheryfun and see what he thinks.

[@Storm0212]

Do you have a direct link or part number for that bottle adapter??

[@InspirePrecision]

airgunarcheryfun.ca/m60b-new-style-bottle-valve-with-fill-nipple-and-gauge/

[@RubenLopez-th7mj]

How or where can I buy the whole kit for my selos

[@InspirePrecision]

Can be found on airgunarcheryfun.ca however they have been out of stock for some time.

[@JorgeReyescruz-e5g]

Me podria compartir las medidas de las cuerda del adaptador de la botella. O nombre kit del conversion

[@InspirePrecision]

The bottle adapter could be found here airgunarcheryfun.ca/m60b-new-style-bottle-valve-with-fill-nipple-and-gauge/ , but is now sold out.

[@RedCornOutdoors]

Great information, Thanks 👍 I don't have a zelos yet, but do plan on it being my next PCP. Got to say it looks to be one of the easiest bottle conversions. I've done my Notos and a couple avengers, this one looks to be the easiest. I just subscribed, swing on over and check out the channel, have a good day.

[@InspirePrecision]

Thanks! Yes, very easy to convert. I'll check you out!

[@saberraider]

What makes the zelos different from the m60?

[@ssmayassmaya6030]

Looks just like my m60B

[@InspirePrecision]

Straight from Umarex; Zelos vs M60 Velos 26" barrel vs M60 at 24" Foster fitting instead of probe Zelos has degas ability, M60 does not Different Regulator Longer shroud with integrated "moderator" Manometer on side of tank instead of end Where the M60b is considered, take away the differences with the air tank.

[@saberraider]

@@InspirePrecision now I know I need to sell my commodore to get a zelos...

[@joedokes8641]

The Umarex name stamped everywhere . Thats it .

[@joedokes8641]

@@ssmayassmaya6030 Exactly like it .

[@vithkhieu]

My zelos leak air from the port when i remove the tank! the tank doesnt leak but air rush out from the gun where the bottle screw in! need help to repaired. i just got the gun from airgun deport.

[@InspirePrecision]

If your regulator setting is higher than the air pressure in the tank when you unscrew it, it will always degas itself. Why are you removing the tank anyway? It doesn't need to be taken off to fill.

[@vithkhieu]

@@InspirePrecision the gun set pressure is lower than the tank. this is my second gun, the first one that i order from amazon leak air at the fill port. when i take off the tank the gun by itself still hold air. this second one loose air when i take off the tank. the tank still hold all the air. will return back to airgun deport! thanks

[@vithkhieu]

@@InspirePrecision my gun leak air. i was trying find out what leak air! gun or tank. In my case, this gun is leaking air.

[@tonynooyen2423]

Can the input on the factory reg handle 300 bar input?

[@InspirePrecision]

I put an Umarex gauge that goes to 3625psi in the green on this one to replace the snowpeak one, so I don't intend to push it past that, I have been able to find out that the Zelos isn't designed for higher pressures, the rifle can handle it, but it will cause the regulator to wear prematurely. Some people also say that the burst disks on these are weak, and may let go before the rated 5k psi. So, no not expressly, but your results may vary.

[@tonynooyen2423]

@@InspirePrecision what is the thread pattern on the male fitting on the gun. The one you turned to adjust the clock of your gauge.

[@stanjenkins6039]

What is the shots per fill with the 500 cc bottle?

[@InspirePrecision]

I haven't ran through exactly, but I'm getting about 100 on reg.

[@williamlewis2896]

Do you use the same reg or is that a different one that goes on the bottle

[@InspirePrecision]

Same reg, the bottle adapter only has a valve to allow removal of a filled tank.

[@gmsantafeairgunner2169]

Is that a snow Peak Branded By umerax

[@InspirePrecision]

Just like the m60 with about a half a dozen changes, I've replied to another comment here with the differences. Check that out.

[@richgray9117]

Hello my name is Rich.. I have been online looking at the Umzrex Zelos and I'd like to get in to one do you have some good places to go to get one.. I'm new to air guns I have to of Gamo brake bearers in 22 cal.. but I'd like to get something better if you can help me out and send me to the Wright places.. Thank You so much for the help..

[@InspirePrecision]

Rich, Send me an email at [e-mail] and we will get you set up! Thanks!

[@rtalbott7]

Okay, I am not finding a manometer as you have described.

[@rtalbott7]

Also, as i went to the site for bottle adapter, site implied that this adapter by itself was not available. Although it may just not be in-stock.

[@InspirePrecision]

That is more of a preference, and not a necessary change, and yes, the bottle adapter by itself is out of stock, but you can still buy it with a bottle.

[@stevejohnson8703]

what's the shot count difference

[@InspirePrecision]

You'll at least double your shots, but since I've adjusted the regulator down a bit I'm getting 75+ with the 500cc bottle.

[@goateemike72]

is that 580? whats your shot count? will a 700 fit?

[@InspirePrecision]

Yes, a 700cc like what I linked to in the description will fit. 60+ regulated shots with that 500cc tank.

[@bigearl8687]

How many shots and power

[@InspirePrecision]

With bottle 60+ regulated shots, I'm getting about 52fpe stock reg and hammer spring, JSB 34gr pellets.

[@tpot__mm4411]

How can get adapter

[@InspirePrecision]

Unfortunately these bottle adapters are sold out.

[@olonnie41]

U can pre order from airgun archery fun

[@Tom-jw1pe]

I need this… upgrade. Nice video

[@stedyone1090]

I would of put a 300cc cf bottle for lighter weight and still more shots 😅 But that's me

[@InspirePrecision]

I did have a 300cc CF FX bottle laying around, but when I put it next to the Zelos it just looked too small.

[@edwardmiles3921]

It needs that bottle. Good gun but literally looks cheap and stupid with the skinny tube hanging so far away from the barrel

[@InspirePrecision]

I like the look of the bottle also.

[@MaverickShooter9]

umarex zelos = rebranded snowpeak m60 if you dont know that

[@InspirePrecision]

I make that pretty clear towards the end of this video.

[@williamlewis2896]

Can you please send me the part list please to do a bottle kit for the zelos

[@InspirePrecision]

I'd like to open a store and offer the upgrades and things I do here but I'm not there yet. The parts were here: airgunarcheryfun.ca/m60b-new-style-bottle-valve-with-fill-nipple-and-gauge/ but They are now sold out, likely the sole result of this video, I am unaware of any other place to get them. Contact Wes at Airgunarcherfun and he will let you know when more will be in.

[@thomasmeadows256]

❤

[@MrVoltar1]

Where are they saying it’s made? Does it say Made in China on the side of the action?

[@InspirePrecision]

Yes, made in China by Snowpeak/Artemis/etc/etc, but that isn't a new detail, just like every budget priced offering these days. Excellent design and an excellent performer, no matter what name is on the side. Thanks to Umarex for making it available in the US.

[@stevenjackson4076]

Please sell me that one.

[@InspirePrecision]

I'll be keeping this one, too good to get rid of!

[@le3045acp]

been buying snowpeaks from krale for 3 years order from pyramyd or airgun depot and get your gun in 7 to 10 days order from the krale in the netherlands and get it in 3 days and its a little cheaper i have asked this question several times with no answer, question is why doesnt anybody carry snowpeak in america umarex and a few others do but under their name with changes like the zelos and stoeger bullshark (snowpeak P35) with a ugly rediculous stock and i have just about come to the conclusion that they dont want snowpeaks by the name here because they are as good as the 1200 to 2000 dollar guns but rarely any of the snow peaks are over 600 bucks my p35 about 450.00 will outshoot my fx maverick and daystate revere out to my 90 yards i have to shoot to it puts 18.13s under a quarter at 90 and my fx and daystate wont quiet shoot as good a group and cost 3 times as much go figure . ive been saying the big names are way over priced and the snowpeak rifles have proven what ive said to be true even you said it the zelos is a snowpeak m60 the notos is a pp750 with a different stock

[@InspirePrecision]

There is no doubt the m60 frame no matter whos name is on it, is a great performer for little money. No shame to Umarex for getting it in the hands of more people.

[@le3045acp]

@@InspirePrecision i dont disagree with you but why doesnt pyramyd or AGD just import the snowpeak line in and sell them under the snowpeak name is my question its great that some companies are rebranding them and selling under their name i have no problem with that

[@TheGmen20001]

Why wouldnt they offer this from the factory??. We will pay for it...cmon Uma

[@MrVoltar1]

The factory does it’s called a Snowpeak M60B. Umerex is but a rebrander not the manufacturer

[@TheGmen20001]

@@MrVoltar1 now if they only made thisbwith semi auto wed be a champ

[@jeansandmyshirt]

How's this compared to the avenge x in terms of accuracy and slug shooting

[@InspirePrecision]

Like a laser beam with most pellets I have tried, working with slugs has been a bit more challenging, but lots of tuning to do and plenty of room for it. I don't have an avenge-x, so I can't speak to any comparisons.