Rabbi Jonathan Romain vs Michael Brown • Was Jesus the Jewish Messiah?

Messianic Jew and US radio host Michael Brown debates liberal UK Reform rabbi Jonathan Romain on Jesus, the Bible and whether there are many paths to God.
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[@TheSaffronasha]

Finally Unbelievable is trying to veer back to it's roots. There is more than Christians and Atheists/ Materialists in the world. When you truly get to know and love the diversity of humanity, you come to understand that a truly moral God would wish us to stop fighting over 'stories' about God...and start loving each other unconditionally. xoxo You're back on the right path Justin....now stay there please.

[@Vigula]

'a truly moral God'??? - An opinion masquerading as truth - where do you get your 'moral' value from? From people, from yourself? It seems like you're an advocate for the religion of Plato Bird. What gives you the authority. or anyone else for that matter, to say what is right or wrong? Is it like the 'Rabbi' in this clip who claims it's all down to each individual? Clearly a self-refuting argument if ever there was one. I appreciate the 'loving each other unconditionally message' but you only have that because of Jesus Christ and his one true church. Forgive me if I sound annoyed but can you blame me? Best regards, Adam

[@TheSaffronasha]

Where do I get my morals from? I am a conscious being who has empathy for others. So I make my decisions about what is moral based on my ability to reason and to seek love and unity....vs hate and disunity. It's not really that complicated Adam, or wouldn't be, if people actually used their free wisely. Step one, no one should choose to make false idols out of ancient books.

[@TheJpgr1958]

Plato Bird: "I am a conscious being who has empathy for others." But why would you want to do that if for example, I'm told that everyone has their own truth?

[@TheSaffronasha]

@@TheJpgr1958 Because EMPATHY and love is a universal truth. The are not reliant upon whatever favorite God book you read.

[@itdoesntsaythatzppp2240]

Ex-muslim here and a follower of Christ since last year 🙏🏼✝️❤

[@psalm5187]

Congratulations. Keep focused on the Gospels, psalms, proverbs and epistles. It will be challenging but Jesus Christ the Eternal Son of the most High God is there for you always.

[@mr.sanchez6877]

I Care,may God bless you and keep you Amen.

[@zarabees2123]

I Care so you believe in a man made God? I am curious to know why you left Islam ? Are you a trinitarian now?

[@mr.sanchez6877]

Zara bees so you believe in a man made religion?

[@zarabees2123]

Mr. Sanchez not in man made religion, neither man made God.

[@michellespencer148]

I’m impressed by Dr. Brown!!!... very gracious & loving showing the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

[@kargs5krun]

Agreed. And, he's becoming even more refined in his approach & terminology so that even a layman can follow along & understand or, get hungry enough to search & find if it is as he says.

[@listen4556]

What is an apostate jew?

[@lindag5116]

@@listen4556 an apostate Jew is a Jew who leaves Judaism and follows another religion.

[@Nicolai.c]

Yeshua Hamashiach is the messiah. Alleluia!! Not other religion. He is Jewish all the nations Who accept His sacrifice in the cross pray the God of Abraham Isaac And Jacob by Yeshua Hamashiach's name. The revelation of his sacrifice comes in our spirit by the Holly Spirit. Elohim are so good to HUMANITY. Hosanna Alleluia.

[@claudiareginateixeira1825]

@@Nicolai.c Ops! YM, could have been a great tsadik and played his mission on earth. But yet not everyone could claim him as savior. Even he himself have never claimed it. Everything I remember from new wrtitings pointed out to Echad. Shema Israel Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad.

[@lorigrizzell7972]

The Lord looks at the heart. Humble acceptance that I am NOT good and cannot be...."All have sinned and fallen short" means my only hope is JESUS!

[@Jack-lz4ec]

AMENNN may God continue to bless u with overwhelming grace that comes from christ

[@Mimecraft3872]

Amen

[@robertoarriola-bustamante9169]

They brought a Woman who was doing adultery Jesus said who ever has no sin throw the first stone , etc , Christ told the Woman who condemn you, she said nobody, Jesus Christ neather do and said : go and sin no more. Pater said Repent all of you and be Baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of Sin and you shall receive the gift of the Holy SPIRIT Acts 2:38

[@GeoffSh4rt]

Sorry to disappoint you dear, but your mate Jesus is dead - and can't help anyone or anything. That's what "dead" means.

[@jeremybrown1578]

@@GeoffSh4rt no durr, but Christians don’t believe that. You’re argument is going to need some convincing

[@B1rdTheW0rd]

The new age really is absurd. Too afraid to offend anyone to the point where they actually don’t say anything. Great job brother Michael. Hallelujah.

[@GeoffNelson]

I was thinking the same. What's really the point of being a "Jew" if your only rule is "be a good person"? You don't need a religion for that.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

You're right... that Reform Rabbi didn't have enough fangs when it came to calling Messianic "Jews" what they are - apostates, evangelists, and in some cases, idolaters. He sounded like a damn Reconstructionist!

[@kadanplays9451]

Lol exactly, He didnt address the ressurecttion...

[@outofthebox7]

The rabbi made it clear for me: His judaism is agnosticim with a new age cloak.

[@aidank2108]

Yeah, I'd have to say that that is somewhat true

[@NatanelYaHu]

Reform Judaism

[@CroElectroStile]

Yeah, it's Satans religion. If you dont have the descerment to know what to keep out and what to keep in , that is not a positive thats a negative. So basically open minded people are simple minded person, people saying they are agnostic si equivelant to saying they are an Ignoramus. So close the door!

[@NatanelYaHu]

@David ben Mesecke I wouldn't say that. Name me one redeemable thing about reform Judaism vs Christianity.

[@NatanelYaHu]

@David ben Mesecke what defines a messiah and a god in Judaism?

[@jivy_league9855]

Jordan peterson believes the Torah more than this rabbi lol

[@sadiq7700]

Its because this Rabbi has probably studied the Torah and realized it has, partly, been corrupted by man over the years. The Torah and Bible were initially the pure word of God but both books have been corrupted by interpolation of man over time. Time spares nothing. Read up on textual criticism of both books.

[@vipingeorge9368]

@@sadiq7700 So, is quran preseeved word for word and letter for letter?

[@jimcook1747]

@@vipingeorge9368 The scholar who runs @VariantQuran clearly shows that the Quran is hopelessly corrupted.

[@meganlukes6679]

@@sadiq7700 The textual criticism is actually quite encouraging. The overwhelming majority of “errors” found by textual criticism come down to spelling and punctuation errors, or the order of words being switched. The unparalleled number of ancient copies confuse the number, because if a thousand copies have the same typo, that’s a thousand errors. Thus far textual criticism has not revealed any errors that would alter the tenets of the faith.

[@meganlukes6679]

@@vipingeorge9368 I don’t think large-scale textual criticism of the Quran has been permitted like it has been with the Bible. Given what can happen if you just show a cartoon, I can’t imagine what would happen if you produced research that suggested their book has not been perfectly preserved.

[@mel-robgz2566]

I am so thankful to God for using Michael Brown for God's glory.

[@JaneDoe-lw6eh]

"If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead." Luke 16:31

[@nigelkissoon891]

Mr Romain is part of mainstream religion , he sounds like'' it's all good, we are all one'' meanwhile there are religious people murdering other people for there belief, what's good about that, believing they are going to 'heaven' for mass murdering others, in another sovereign nations and even there own nation as well... there's only one GOD, one way, one truth, and HE has a plan for mankind, and HE gives us the freedom to choose, HE alone will execute judgement, not men...

[@lotaluatua5520]

I will not deny what Jesus has done in my life, and the Holy Spirit for being my helper, comforter and counselor. Glory to you Jesus alone because I wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for your great love on the cross.

[@jennifergill2587]

Amen 🙌

[@Justadudeman22]

Amen

[@FigRko]

You know you should be thanking the Father ultimately, right? Anywho Yhwh bless. 28“And do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the being. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both being and body in Gehenna.

[@3wolfsdown702]

Jesus The Great Deceiver false Messiah

[@Justadudeman22]

@@3wolfsdown702 Not what the greatest modern Jewish rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri had to say .

[@pdxnikki1]

Pray for the rabbi in Jesus name. Give him revelation soon, Lord.

[@marleneb7623]

Amen!

[@islamisthewayoflife9356]

And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!

[@madelinegrace7486]

Bible says in the beginning was the word the word was with God and the Word was God the same was in the beginning with God. Jesus is called the word so in the beginning was Jesus. Jesus was with God and Jesus was God the same was in the beginning with God. The godhead is a trinity three persons revealed in different forms.

[@madelinegrace7486]

@Loki Jesus is The God. One of THE TRINITY. THREE IN ONE.

[@cwdor]

Jesus is Satan the devil You've been deceived Repent accept Jahovah and do good works.

[@ominazy6712]

How can anyone call this guy a rabbi? He doesn't even believe the Torah.

[@VACatholic]

look up the Sabbatean Frankists.

[@itdoesntsaythatzppp2240]

He is an athiest pretending to be a rabbi 😂

[@lampkin9287]

Gustavo Pares wait...Follows Paul’s life, when did he break the law. In works alone, the son of benyamin would put you to shame.

[@lampkin9287]

Paul’s letters gathered thousands upon thousands from amongst the nations where the house of Israelites had been scattered into Yerushalim to hear the apostles speak.

[@lampkin9287]

I knew that there was some hostility hiding behind that passive behavior. Quite frankly, that’s one of the two behaviors you’ll get when talking to people from a walks of life.

[@Verah___]

John 16:33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace and confidence. In the world you will have tribulations, trials, stress and frustration, but take courage For I have overcome the world” Jesus didn’t say there would be no wars and horrible things happening, but he said in Him we can find peace and he has overcome the world ❤

[@KathyKelley-jl9bo]

Amen!

[@TeamAWESOMEAlcayde]

Mr. Romain said, who knows if Abraham really exist???!! I was like, whaaaat??? You question the existence of Abraham is tantamount to questioning the existence of the 12 tribes of Israel and the whole history of Israel.

[@melvincarter9640]

Yeah this man sound very foolish. To him just do good deeds is all that matters

[@johnpratts2856]

@@melvincarter9640 Right?! 🙄I mean, Isaiah 64:6 says it clearly that good deeds are not enough.

[@canella68]

Jesús gave us a new command. Love one another. As I have love, so you must love one anither. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. John 13: 34, 35. Love brother and sister will make us free.

[@welcometototalitarianism812]

Right, so then there would be no such thing as a "Jew" which he says Dr. Brown _isnt_ .

[@crbgo9854]

Mr Romain sounds better than rabbi Romain

[@RobinhoGabriel1]

Justin is a lovely man! He is Such a professional moderator and interviewer ! Well done Justin !

[@lornedey4040]

Obviously, Rabbi Romain doesn't believe there is such a thing as absolute truth.

[@EmilyRose1]

Lorne Dey yeah he’s very progressive

[@robertmotion]

Lorne Dey welcome to post-modernism. /Bklyn👑

[@JS-bk2jl]

Except the absolute truth that there is no absolute truth lol

[@HaltonOutdoors]

This is the very example of post-truth. "relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief: in this era of post-truth politics, it's easy to cherry-pick data and come to whatever conclusion you desire | some commentators have observed that we are living in a post-truth age." Also, truth in its intrinsic value is narrow, and therefore exclusive by nature. That has nothing to do with the Rabbi's claim of being Jesus as true is arrogant, rather truth supports the claims that are correct, and by contrast supports the fact that the other side is false.

[@georgeramos6455]

@@HaltonOutdoors Could you please clarify the statement below? "That has nothing to do with the Rabbi's claim as being Jesus as true is arrogant, rather truth supports the claims that are correct ..." Thank you.

[@blitzkriegspearfishing]

Dr.Brown, you destroyed this reformed jew effortlessly, in such a humble calm & respectful way while simultaneously preaching the word of God. ❤🙏 Thank you. Bless you. Amen.

[@dinahleffertstandupcomedy]

I used to speak just like this rabbi. He says he’s happy as he is but the Jewish man who recognizes Yeshua has happiness exuding through his eyes and mouth and hair follicles. He’s joy filled with a direct relationship with Him. That is the difference. I used to be the same. Yeshua came to me when I was 16. It’s taken me until now at 47 to accept Him. Now I feel his presence every day. My happiness is Gods joy filled my heart through Jesus. I’m taking back my Jewish Jesus. I am not a Christian or Messianic Labels. I am a realized complete Jew with Jesus as the Messiah. I would never have believed any of this if He hadn’t revealed Himself to me. It took my Native American fiancé to show me in my own Jewish Bible this undeniable evidence that rabbis stopped sharing with their congratulations: Isiah:53. Shalom. Jesus is the Prince of Peace and gives peace to all who seek Him.

[@ashleycarelse6929]

I do apologise that I am not responding in-depth to your input. I am not qualified to educate at the level of pre school. Sorry for this lack of qualification.

[@therollingreviewer6379]

Religion: offering the cure while being the disease at the same time.

[@stevencagle5469]

@@therollingreviewer6379And Communism is the worst religion!

[@timeaaraouzou710]

Halleluyah! God bless you in Yeshua!

[@mirasetfree4503]

May Jesus reveal himself to the Rabbi and open his eyes through grace!

[@life.re-defined]

Standing in agreement

[@easterbuny2226]

@@life.re-defined Jews rule the world suffer your straw man is never coming back . Michael Brown does not care about what you believe he is just a opportunist Jewish Viper praying on peoples fears like most people that make there living in this field . Brown is a jewish conman out to take advantage of people

[@easterbuny2226]

@Happy Go Lucky The Rabbis are doing just fine against him . He has not dismantled the whole jewish community and turned Israel into the land of Jews for Jesus . He keeps saying the same line THATS ALL

[@candacehamel7241]

Amen!

[@bridgeshague3865]

Mira Peach Amen 🙏🏽

[@pearlnathan984]

Michael keep doing what you’re doing God bless you. We need more men like you.

[@safinakichoncho5615]

Indeed.

[@doriansmith5667]

I will confess that Jesus is my Lord and Saviour.

[@D.W.C935]

Amen 🙏

[@rawlinvanatta321]

Amen

[@charananekibalijaun8837]

Saviour from what?

[@eliasziad7864]

Lord of what?

[@rodyodo]

God is still to this day, doing miracles, healing the sick, etc., through followers of Jesus.

[@sydb2848]

yes, more so spiritually sick

[@devanshrathore9112]

Why hasn't God regrown the limbs of any amputee yet? Can he only cure diseases where divine intervention isn't required anyway?

[@lethean333]

@@devanshrathore9112.. they'll dodge and deflect your questions, there's no point asking logical questions to believers.

[@mikesully110]

@@devanshrathore9112 yeah lol why did God punish Sam Berns with progeria, a horrible disease that made him age 8 times too quick? He was a kind hearted teenager who died at the age of 17. I on the other hand have done plenty of mean, nasty things to people including my own family yet I am in perfect health. How can God explain that? 🤣

[@tjs.5044]

lol

[@Godoverpolitics]

This Rabbi has the same arguments my daughter had when she was 8.

[@Godoverpolitics]

@@joshaustin1 i do, for an 8 year old.

[@staceyflores899]

LOL> SO TRUE!

[@prayingpatriot8018]

This 21st century Rabbi is a replica of the Jewish Pharisees (vipers) in Yahushua's day, 2,000 years ago.

[@prayingpatriot8018]

Invisible Individual: You fear the Truth.

[@Godoverpolitics]

@@invisibleindividual8093 i didnt insult his intelligence, i insulted his arguments. He refused to acknowledge sound arguments that were presented to him. He just insulted instead of rebutting. He's not dumb he's willfully ignorant

[@micaiahbaker9753]

I used to be drug addict alcoholic and smoke addict but it was the NAME of JESUS who gave me power over those bad habits amen

[@charlottecole4539]

I am happy you met the King of kings Dallas, only he can deliver, no one else can. Welcome to the Body of Christ.

[@jonfromtheuk467]

@@charlottecole4539 pity Dallas went around when he fell into drug addiction eh...... what was God doing then?

[@charlottecole4539]

Thanks for the question Jon, I believe u have a concern. The truth is, God has given all of us free will. How we choose to use that free will is totally up to us. He kept u alive so you will know that He loves you. Do u know some of your friends died doing the same thing you did? Well, God has always been there. Call upon him and he will welcome you home. I hope this helped a little bit Jon. Thanks once again.

[@jonfromtheuk467]

@@charlottecole4539 sigh.......more preaching. I'm not buying some invisible, eternal, formless, omniscient , omnipotent, deity created us only for us to suffer huge amounts in order to pass some impossible free will test Its much more likely that god doesnt exist anywhere except in our minds and the free will argument is the "get out of jail free" card played by the religious to excuse his non intervention - non existence is much more lucid and coherent explanation that its all a big plan. You make lots of assertions , naturally without a shred of evidence, that God has always been there, he loves everyone etc and this apparent "love" is despite watching on whilst millions of people will die from terrible diseases, famine, tsunamis, holocaust, genocide and the rape and murder of children and may I point out that as he is omnisicient thus knows in ADVANCE that the little 5 year old will be snatched from her distraught parents and then unthinkable things done to her. Now where was HER free will exactly ? The fact that this stuff happens daily cast doubt on a benevolent god existing and "any god that doesnt manifest in any detectable way is indistinguishable from one that doesnt exist" Again it is much more coherent as to me the real explanation of non existence, and furthermore means I don't have to do what you do, which is tap dance and try and explain away the inexplicable.

[@ildar717]

@@charlottecole4539 Do you believe that your god knows all?

[@juliemorgan-bullock6149]

Justin is just so excellent in hosting and guiding these debates. He shows such wisdom and insight.

[@danielsnyder1]

I was really unimpressed with this debate. Jonathan Romain was a very disingenuous guest. He came across as arrogant and angry, and even though he said many times that I'm happy to let you believe whatever you like, it was quite clear that he saw himself far above Michael Brown. Additionally he really sounded unitelligent - honestly I'm really surprised he's a rabbi. His comment about one verse in millions was bizarre, since you'd think a rabbi would be educated enough to know there are not millions of verses in scripture... He believes some very strange things for a rabbi...

[@TheBrunarr]

That's reform for ya

[@justchilling704]

@@TheBrunarr And Unitarianism, coexist, what this fake or "Reformed" Jew is that Truth by definition is "Exclusive" and God has definitely revealed the "TRUTH" which is Jesus and or the Bible.

[@kvanniekerk3792]

He did not just sound unintelligent. He is unintelligent. He sounds more like a wishy washy atheist than a Jewish rabbi. Pity his congregants who have to suffer under this idiot. Well done Mr. Brown for showing immense patience in the face of blatant mockery by an uneducated oaf.

[@justchilling704]

@@kvanniekerk3792 Lol correct!

[@joshportie]

Theyre the ones pushinv noahide laws that will condemn christians to death for believing in Jesus.

[@surescratch]

This rabbi is basically a new age thinker. He is not even a religious jew

[@MezztovenShort4DannY]

surescratch He's not jew, he doesn't believe in Torah

[@BornAgain223]

he just calls himself a rabbi, same with the false teachers who call themselves preachers

[@michaeloconnor1757]

@@MezztovenShort4DannY Judaism, in general, puts more attention to the Talmud and other rabbinical writings than the Bible itself. What defines a Jew is a different question. A Jew need not subscribe to Judaism.

[@Mighty-ue7bt]

these are actually the most friendly Rabbi’s. they are probably more open to the Gospel than religious rabbi’s

[@s1b3r11]

I have fundamental trouble with believing that Rabbi Jonathan Romain is in fact a Rabbi...

[@zechkurien3031]

More like a progressive Christian. Aka, not a Christian. I haven’t finished this video but you are fundamentally against Judaism if you are trying to give the polytheists of Hindus a voice as if they are entitled to be right. “You shall have no other gods before Me.” That’s Judaism 101. And of course since Christianity is as I believe the fulfillment of Judaism, that’s Christianity 101 too.

[@johnnyscott7688]

I love everyone’s opinions on what a real Jewish Rabbi is in this thread! Hahahahaha

[@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821]

@Zech Kurien Christianity is NOT the fulfillment of judaism. Jesus made it clear those who call themselves Jews and a re not are of the synagogue of Satan. Nobody is saved by Judaism. You are saved by Christ and Christ alone. Christianity is entirely different. Judaism is about the Talmud NOT the Torah. Dont be deceived

[@zechkurien3031]

@@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821 "I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it" -Jesus. Modern Judaism is heavily deceived. The practices of the day we're heavily deceived. But TRUE Judaism, the LAW given by Moses, reaffirmed by Joshua, has been fulfilled in Jesus. No one comes to the Father except through Christ. Because Christ is the fulfillment of Judaism. It feel's like we're saying the same thing here but let me know if you still find an issue you want to address.

[@reshmaakthar6970]

​@@zechkurien3031 you pagans and your delusions,

[@tf-in1vg]

I'm getting really strong Genesis 3:1, "Did God really say?" vibes from Jonathan.

[@arthurzillocaldwell1644]

🎯 bullseye 🎯

[@tombrown9123]

Not only is he rejecting Christ , he rejects his own Torah and the prophets.

[@x-popone6817]

@Darth Quantum No, Jesus is real.

[@ngreat4390]

Technically blinded by God for the benefit of Gentiles. Let's be nice and also pray for them.

[@marktester5799]

"If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead." Luke 16:31

[@voiceofheartandsoul1257]

@Darth Quantum Stupid is a man that thinks that beautiful things put into places without a designer in it.

[@markita.hardenhome]

I said the same thing! He doesn't even uphold what the Torah calls for.

[@feliperodriguez4187]

Romain is actually a " New Ager " and he doesn't even know it.

[@fohunter12345]

Yes, he is not really a believer. At least not at the time of this recording. Hopefully he turned his back on human philosophies and sought GOD's wisdom instead.

[@skiingaround8277]

this guy who calls himself a Rabi doesn't even know his own religion, and is absolutely clueless about Christianity. He might as well be a new-ager - ie all paths get to the same place, next he'll be saying we're all God.

[@NehemiahRyan]

In his view, it is true that we ARE all God because all roads are correct - in his view. His view is self-contradictory.

[@skiingaround8277]

His view is promoting the original lie - eat of this fruit and be like God.

[@vinkosusac1130]

You are totally right about it. He doesn't even know the Old testament.

[@JohnDoe-le8fy]

It's actually not that he doesn't practice his own religion, modern Judaism is NOT Biblical Judaism it's Rabbinical Judaism, completely different. God did away with the old covenant 2000 years ago, we have been living in the New Testament / New Covenant for 2000 years now and we are never going back to the old physical when we have the new, better, spiritual!

[@concerta56]

Notice how Rabbi Jonathan didn't acknowledge the Death of Messiah before the destruction of the 2nd Temple as Michael Brown a couple to times? We must Pray for him to be more tuned to Tanak

[@ednaquintana6201]

Hi. I am a Jewish Christian believing that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, and I am enjoying my relationship with Him. I have been a. Christian for the last 18 years , and I have the Peace that passes all understanding with Him as I have the Holy Spirit that lives in me.😊

[@welcometototalitarianism812]

Amen! Praise God!💜

[@مارتینلوتر-م8غ]

The Trinity is not explicitly mentioned in the Torah. The book of Torah contains the most detailed ethics of humanity. How could be possible that a book that clearly states the details of women's menstrual blood is not clear on an issue like monotheism, which is the most radical book on the planet. All the verses you use to justify the Trinity have double meanings and multiple interpretations can be taken from it. While the ideological principles must be proven with clear verses and without personal conclusions. I hope you remember God's promise to your fathers and don't lose your way. There is no greater sin than idolatry and polytheism, and those who die believing in polytheism will have no place in the next world.

[@jordantheriverman6143]

@@مارتینلوتر-م8غ As you read this, you will be going about your days. Yet, you will still be enslaved to particular sins. You will not be able to get free. Your heart and hands will not be clean, though you attempt to wash them by various means. If you measure yourself by the commandments, you will see that you are condemned as one who has lied, blasphemed, stolen, lusted, envied, idolized, considered yourself better than others etc and cannot escape. You will need a saviour. The true one.

[@adesertsojourner8015]

Michael Brown vs Ben Shapiro would be interesting

[@kaneanderson8403]

Krang X Shapiro declined to be on dr Browns show

[@adesertsojourner8015]

Kane Anderson pity, perhaps Shapiro doesn’t want to alienate the Christian right

[@RichLuciano1]

We should troll Ben into it. He wasn't afraid of Sam Harris but fears Mike Brown

[@Burt0266]

Richard Luciano Shapiro is a very bright man and he should fear Dr. Brown because he will loose that debate.

[@TreBrickley]

Yes!!!

[@marianaturda]

First of all, Mr. Romain don't knows the Bible. Mr. Michael Brown knows and speaks the Truth.

[@rachybaby72]

And it's scary that someone who doesn't know the bible is a RABBI. I mean, it's one thing to interpret scriptures differently, but to not KNOW scriptures is a whole 'nother ball game. Smh...

[@birdgirl1516]

Correct. Yeshua = messiah for ALL nations. No more need for old law animal sacrifice... ha! Humans in Israel killed G-d who appeared to them in human form to be the ultimate sacrifice for ALL in the name of LOVE. The motive behind that is absolutely love.

[@finalfrontier001]

what an amazing argument.......

[@GeoffSh4rt]

How do you know it's the truth?

[@LEGASItv]

You can't argue with Rabbi Jonathan... he believes all, and believe nothing.

[@TheJontydavid]

@Anthony Isreal you never actually quote anything, it's called paraphrasing, also finish a verse for once.. Come on bro... I live here in East Africa, you American BHI have way too much free time. Go to China they have Chinese Jesus, come to Africa here we have mostly back Jesus especially Etheopia and North East Africa.. It's just a thing people do.. This race obsession is a disease of the soul.. " WHAT PART A LIGHT FOR ALL NATIONS" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND.. YESHUA LOVE US ALL!! blessed be the living God,..

[@TheJontydavid]

@Anthony Isreal "Yea, He saith, 'It is too light a thing for you to be My servant, to establish the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the scions of Israel, and I shall submit you as a light unto the nations, to be My salvation until the end of the earth' Isaiah 49:6.

[@TheJontydavid]

@search 4 truth bless you sister, whatever you may believe, you anger come from your love of all people, rejoice for not even one lost sheep shall be left alone. God bless you, worry not on the scoffers..

[@TheJontydavid]

@Anthony Isreal Romans 10:12 Verse Concepts For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;

[@TheJontydavid]

@Anthony Isreal Isaiah 42:1 Verse Concepts “Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My chosen one in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations. Notice nations, there are tribes of Israel but only one nation..

[@jordan7985]

when Dr. Brown told the Rabbi that his open mindedness is actually him just telling everyone that they are wrong, that was powerful

[@Fassnight]

Such a good point

[@danielsnyder1]

This might be the most theologically twisted rabbi I've ever heard!

[@meganlukes6679]

@Mister Christopher I doubt he knew going in that Romain would be so irreligious. His prep clearly shows he thought he’d be debating messianic scripture and he spent over half the time fruitlessly trying to steer the conversation in that direction. If he’d known going in that Romain was the next best thing to an agnostic Unitarian he would have started hitting the absolute truth arguments within the first ten minutes.

[@Odo-so8pj]

Atheist Jeremy corbynist aka wolf.

[@aviainspan2125]

debate?? advocating for Christianity: Christian advocating for Judaism: and atheist "rabbi" who doesn't even believe in Judaism.

[@rawsinaga6771]

LoL 😂

[@meganlukes6679]

By far the weirdest debate I’ve ever seen. Never thought I’d hear anyone say, “What’s the big deal of rising from the dead?” I’ll admit I have no idea how to counter someone so wholly unimpressed by miracles.

[@manuelmontiel8085]

Is there anywhere I can find a legitimate debate between a Christian Theologian and Jewish Rabbi? After reading deep into the Prophets, I'd like to see what the Jewish argument is for some of the prophecies that evidently seem to point to Jesus...but no luck yet.

[@GardenMinistry.]

@@manuelmontiel8085 same here, no luck 😊

[@josiahjudah3126]

@@manuelmontiel8085 What? Theologians who got their ideas mixed with the greek philosophy. Dr Brown is a the Jew amongst the jew like Paul. Instead what you may want is a Christian Old Testament Scholar like Michael Heizer. Unfortunately, Orthodox Rabbis like Singer avoids Dr Brown, also the messianic movement is older than rabbinic Judaism which was developed from pharissical judaism in the 3rd century led by Rabbi Akiva after the Bar Cochba revolt failed.

[@Mimecraft3872]

This kind of debate do really strenghtens my faith in Jesus Christ more stronger! Praise GOD! ❤

[@lost-again-farms1396fungi]

Well for me it does the opposite

[@3wolfsdown702]

Jesus Christ is a lie right from the beginning of the Virgin birth !!!! if you would read the Jewish Bible you would understand that the story and the sign!! was given to King ahaz " and the young woman Baird the son , which was King Hezekiah/strength of Yahweh......not Jesus

[@xoNatalieShaw]

The guy on the left was getting personal because his faith was being challenged and he knew the guy in the right is correct

[@MK-hz2bn]

He doesn’t know his faith enough to defend it. He resorted to hateful comments. I thought he was going to be struck by lightning after saying that comment about God not doing a very good job sending his son as the messiah. That’s smack talk…Not a mature comment from a religious leader.

[@nicholelovesray]

He did seem very hostile, Michael was glowing with Gods light, and loving smile ❤

[@blaszanykatolik1755]

Despite the fact who is right in this discussion, I know one thing for sure - mr Brown actually strongly believes in something, and mr Romain is not sure if there is anything to believe in in the first place.

[@marcrapp4004]

It's Dr Brown.

[@stanstevens6289]

At least that makes Romain closer to the truth.

[@mtalk828]

@@stanstevens6289 - Or, it merely shows he hasn't experience Jesus 🙂☝🏽

[@stanstevens6289]

@@mtalk828 Correct, then I'm not convinced that anyone actually has. I certainly haven't even though at one point I yhought I had. There is no evidence to show jesus is real either now or when he was supposed to have lived.

[@mtalk828]

@@stanstevens6289 - Indeed, you can never and will never be convinced of Jesus when you have not experience Jesus for yourself 🤷🏽‍♂️ So, you will not be able from your finite mind to reason who Jesus really is. Just like Paul said, *"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned..."* 1 Corinthians 2:14, KJV

[@nicolasmorlan6173]

Michael Brown. The look in his eyes tell you that he truly believes in Jesus Christ. Also his kindness and smile show how happy and secure he is in what and who he believes in. As for Jonathan Romain, Oh boy! That supposed 'Rabbi' desperately needs Jesus. Not a happy man!

[@christisking1316]

Amen! What a Testimony that Dr. Brown has...Our Lord & Saviour JESUS does his best work and gets ALL the Glory, the more broken we are! Worthy is the Lamb!

[@tonywilliams49]

Jesus didn't have the last name christ. The word christ is a title.

[@toohoodgirl]

Physical attributes do not show a person's connection or condition with God. Their acctions do. If you go by your statement about how kind he is can you imagine what you are going to think when the anti-chris comes. He will deceive everyone he possibly can. He will be handsome, kind, nice eyes, speak with the winding of evil to deceive us. We need to look at the fruits of the spirit. Just a thought. But I agree with your statement regarding the rabbi. He needs Jesus.

[@florinaschilean6143]

Romain needs either Jesus or Torah, although the Torah points to Jesus.

[@Incandescence555]

confirmayshun byas

[@marktester5799]

"Why are you being so exclusive, why not say there are many paths to God?" Maybe because only God gets to determine what paths there are to Him and He was pretty exclusive?

[@meganlukes6679]

I think one of the top 5 themes of the OT is that God reeeaaallly doesn’t like it when people worship anyone or anything but Him.

[@jinglejangle100]

@Mark Tester It is your opinion that "He" was exclusive. You have a definite right to your opinion.

[@e.starling141]

Lol. Exactly. The rabbi acts like Michael is just coming up with that idea out of nowhere. Its Gods word!

[@MrCarlito777]

Under Heaven the name of Jesus is the only name given where salvation can be found...Acts 4:12 that is exclusive and that is glorious.Creation and the Cross of Christ as revealed in Scripture declares God's Glory...the very reason man is created in His image and likeness..for worship ...God giving Himself for us to enjoy and delight...Jesus on Human flesh restoring what was destroyed in sin and Adam ,taking our own sin as the sacrificial lamb. In His Divinity and perfect humanity..He alone can Stand to God as our Great High Priest and Mediator. True God , True Man..Glorious...a joy for His people and elect..a stumbling block for the self righteous , for those who choose autonomy , and their religion..rather the Lordship of Jesus and His Gospel.

[@jinglejangle100]

@@MrCarlito777 Remember, your belief in the scripture is a choice. I respect your right to make that choice. My choice is to honor all other choices of belief right alongside yours.

[@logicaldude3611]

"If they don’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded if someone rises from the dead." -Luke 16:31 My jaw dropped when the "Rabbi" said that it still wouldn't matter even if Jesus literally rose from the dead. I thought the passage from Luke was always a bit of hyperbole. It's actually true and we just saw it.

[@EricBryant]

BOOM!

[@ThetennisDr]

totally they are not jews anymore they say they are jews who are not jews

[@jagnestormskull3178]

@@ThetennisDr Who? "Jews" for Jesus? The organization that Michael Brown is associated with? Of course they are not Jews. Most of them are simply gentile evangelists who have rebranded.

[@vdoniel]

Yes. The Rabbi even fulfills prophecy 2Peter3:3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue just as they were from the beginning of creation.”

[@jagnestormskull3178]

The rabbi could have phrased it better, and I'm going to try and phrase it better here: Of course accepting almost any faith is accepting that miracles happen. At least two resurrections happen in the Book of Kings (1 Kings 17:21-22, 2 Kings 4:32). The resurrection was never a requirement for the messiah, otherwise, those two random children from the Book of Kings would both be messiahs. Despite these passages, special weight is placed on the resurrection of Jesus in Christianity, as if it somehow overthrows Isaiah 2, and establishes a new criteria for being the messiah!

[@servantofjesus9642]

This guy looks more like a pagan calling himself a Rabbi as far as I'm concerned 🤔🤔

[@Mimecraft3872]

Let us all pray for this Rabbi so He can be able to see the true gospel of God. May our Savior Lord Jesus Christ reveal himself to this Rabbi through his vision. ❤

[@vickytheodorides]

@justaguylearningmusic and the Jews keep coming to faith in Christ by the thousands ... thanks be to God✝️✝️✝️🙏🏻

[@GeoffSh4rt]

Jesus only reveals himself to those who are mentally ill.

[@christinaking7697]

@@GeoffSh4rt lol

[@cookiemonster3147]

Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom of God.

[@Greyz174]

just to be clear, it's because your god is going to send him to hell if he doesn't, right? or is it because hes going to send you to hell if you don't pray for him

[@rickhuntling7338]

The Rabbi sounds more like a New Age teacher then a believer in the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Sad for him and more sad for the flock under his influence.

[@helmsscotta]

@@vetb882 : Zionism is required by prophecy.

[@vetb882]

@@helmsscotta she me where, if like to read it. Just because in Revelation God says He will destroy the synagogue of Satan, which includes Jesuits and Wahabists leadership, doesn't mean they must exist now.. Jesus is coming back anyway, why not be decent and in Your good side. Being murderous, conniving, and egotistical and not going to get anyone on God's good side.

[@helmsscotta]

@@vetb882 : Jeremiah 31:38-40: 38 “The time is coming,” says the Lord, “when all of Jerusalem will be rebuilt as my city, from Hananel Tower west to the Corner Gate. 39 And the boundary line will continue from there on the west to the hill of Gareb and then around to Goah. 40 The entire valley, where the dead are buried and garbage is dumped, and all the fields above Kidron Brook as far as the Horse Gate to the east, will be sacred to me. The city will never again be torn down or destroyed.” Zionism is about the return of Israel to the land, and the rebirth of the nation. As seen above, this must be, and was not before.

[@rickhuntling7338]

@Scott Helmes, @Vetb882 Rev. 12:1 happened two years ago on September 23rd. 2017. Rev. 12:2 is the holocaust before the travailing woman (Isreal) gives birth to the child (Nation of Isreal). Rev.12:3 tells us to look again to the heavens and I did. The dragon is the constelation of the dragon. The heads and horns is Islam. It's tail contains Ursa Minor where the swastika originated. Polaris is surrounded by the tail making it seen day and night, Rev. 12:10. Rev. 12:4 "And the tail (containing Nazi power) drew the third part (drew 6 million) of the stars of heaven (Jews, Gen 22:17, Dan 8:10) and did cast them to the earth (murdered) and the dragon (Islamic nations) stood before the woman (Isreal) which was ready to be delivered (Isa. 66:8) for to devour her child (newborn nation) as soon as it was born." (Isreal was attacked the very day it was born).

[@helmsscotta]

@vj21oq 2 : "The city will never again be torn down or destroyed."

[@jameskent4902]

You can see the Holy Spirit working through Dr Brown. Brown is clearly bearing the fruit of the Spirit in this debate. Thank you Jesus for your Spirit that lives within us all! Holy Spirit take hold of all our lives! in Jesus name!

[@ChronosKat]

14:48 The face he makes when he realises he's not debating a Jewish Rabbi at all.

[@Carol-Vaiphei]

😂😂😂

[@JaneDoe-lw6eh]

Lol 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@sisgp123]

When you stand for everything, you'll fall for anything. The Rabbi is talking hippy rubbish.

[@junelledembroski9183]

Sis a I like that song.

[@CroElectroStile]

Exactly! If you dont have the descerment to know what to keep out and what to keep in, that is not a positive thats a negative. So basically open minded people are simple minded person, people saying they are agnostic is equivelant to saying they are an Ignoramus. So close the door!!!

[@terrencebrooks733]

I think the saying goes ; If you stand for nothing ,then you"ll fall for anything . not trying to be smart , but----I am pretty smart.

[@sisgp123]

@@terrencebrooks733 Sorry I am so dumb, I should have asked Rabbai Duck Duck Go, I thank God for your superior intelligence.

[@RensSpace]

He’s the type of rabbi the Bible speaks about the one that leads the flock toward and beyond the edge of destruction. I feel sorry for the people that are monitored under him

[@kanayoeasley8448]

The rabbi really has nothing to offer anyone. Works based justification simple and plain. The Lord is our Righteousness.

[@scotthix2926]

Yes he does, create God in your own image. Which is the best type of god because you get to control him. Sadly.

[@catman1316]

I am praying for you Rabbi Jonathan Romain that the Lord may open your eyes to recognize your need of Him as your Lord and Savior. God bless you richly Brother Michael Brown!

[@checkidawt]

God bless you teacher Michael! So sad to hear this lost rabbi, Yeshua will one day make him weep,may God enlighten him to understand the scriptures.

[@arthurzillocaldwell1644]

The sad thing is that this rabbi understands the scriptures.

[@china853]

What Michael Brown said make so much sense. And biblical truth

[@5195384595]

He's no Rabbi, he's sounds more like an Athiest.

[@kikikoko2402]

ATHEITS BETTER THAN CHRISTIAN

[@lipsonjonathan211]

Weak Rabbi.

[@BSwitzerland]

the Rabbi seems to be humanist. The scripture dont seem to play a big role in his life. May his heart to be touched. Michael is great

[@markita.hardenhome]

I said the same thing and I'm Christian! He seems closer to an Atheist!

[@luke-sq9fc]

I agree.. he sounds too sane not to be an atheist

[@LyndaHubbs]

Well done debate on your part Micheal Brown. Praise Yeshua.

[@TheCynicogue]

19:06-19:20 the rabbi does more to discredit modern Judaism then any missionary possibly could.

[@Odo-so8pj]

He doesn't believe in either religion. By the sounds of it.

[@stell4r1]

He's speaking of what Jesus warned about. Being caught in traditions and not understanding "that Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath". I will never get to Heaven without the blood of the lamb. I will never be good enough even if I had a million years to get it right. Can I get an amen?

[@D18.21]

No human sacrifice required! Hosea 3:4-5 4 For the children of Israel shall remain for many days, having neither king, nor prince, nor sacrifice, nor pillar, nor ephod nor teraphim. 5 Afterwards shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God and David their king, and they shall come trembling to the Lord and to His goodness at the end of days. Hosea 14:2-3 2 Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, for you have stumbled in your iniquity. 3 Take words with yourselves and return to the Lord. Say, "You shall forgive all iniquity and teach us [the] good [way], and let us render [for] bulls [the offering of] our lips.

[@tomteague4533]

Exactly 💯 this Rabbi is not a Jew 😅

[@susiervo1]

Jonathan has zero position

[@MizzSVP1]

I feel so sad for this rabbi 😔 Lost the plot

[@jivy_league9855]

"I am the way the truth and the light nobody comes to the father except through me."

[@michaelangileo2760]

Amen.

[@catetc]

Then why should Christian follow teaching of Paul?.

[@michaelangileo2760]

@@catetc Are you aware of the meaning of 1:20 ?

[@jivy_league9855]

@@catetc barking up the wrong tree. I dont think that they should.

[@catetc]

@@michaelangileo2760 I'm sorry, 1:20? Are you referring some verse of the Bible or trying to highlight timestamp of this content? What book? , What's your point? I genuinely confused..

[@BloodOnWood]

Michael Brown represented Christ very well. Praise God 🙏

[@robertvanwijmeren2685]

So, check this out. Now, I was never a church goer until after my live encounter with Jesus in 2016. I received the Holy Spirit that God gave me. Since then, the Holy Spirit literally prompts me when people need help or when God has a word for them. I used to be a mean and selfish person. When the Rabbi talks about social justice and helping out my neighbors, I found out that I couldn't do that in my strength but by God's Spirit. For example; in 2018, my wife and worked at the same place but this day she came in and hour later. She asked me if I needed anything from Chick-fil-A. So I asked for a BEC biscuit. When she got to work, she left the bag on her desk and she was out doing her job. I grabbed the bag and went to work in a ballroom. As my coworker and I left the room, the Holy Spirit told me to give my food to the house keeper who was pushing a large rolling garbage can. But the Holy Spirit then prompted me, "You have to ask him twice and when when you do, look him in the eyes and say again, 'Jeremy, are you hungry.'" Then, my coworker and I followed Jeremy to the break room where he began emptying out the trash can. Then, I asked Jeremy, "Jeremy, are you hungry?" And he said no at first. Then, I did EXACTLY what the Holy Spirit said, and looked Jeremy in the eyes and asked, "Jeremy, are you hungry?" And then he turned around and looked at me and said, "Yes, I dropped my Cheerios allover the living room in my house and I had to leave to go to work. I am very hungry. Thank you so much." I told him that God told me to give him the BEC biscuit. Praise the LORD! I never had a change of heart until I believed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus is the Messiah and King of the Jews, King of King's! I also received the Holy Spirit when I believed that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.

[@scottyp02]

How do you know your brain didn’t subconsciously pick up clues that the coworker was hungry? More than likely it was your subconscious brain telling you to give him the food, rather than some miraculous Holy Spirit.

[@robertvanwijmeren2685]

@@scottyp02 the reason why I knew it wasn't me was because I had plans of eating the biscuit myself and the fact the Holy Spirit told me to ask him twice and exactly what to say. The response of Jeremy, the house keeper, was on point when he confirmed that he spilled all his Cheerios on the floor and that he was really upset at not being able to eat breakfast. This is just one story of many! Recently I was told to preach on a day that I had no desire to preach and the Spirit made me not forget the speaker. The Spirit also showed me who to look for, female and one of the two blond hair twins was female. The Spirit also told me not to leave until midnight. Low and behold, met a man who walk one hundred feet past me at midnight and he had a blonde hair twin who had cerebral palsy and was immobilized and confined in a wheelchair. The man was so upset he said, "How could God do this to my daughter", and "how could God do this to our daughter?" If it wasn't for me being at the spot that day with my microphone and at midnight, I would have missed him. He was so baffled that his jaw dropped. I was able to comfort the man by letting him know that God was, in fact, with him. (I gave you the very short version). While I am not led specifically to do things like this everyday, I do them only when prompted to here and there.

[@scottyp02]

@@robertvanwijmeren2685 how come I have never had any experiences remotely like those you describe? It doesn’t make sense to me.

[@robertvanwijmeren2685]

@@scottyp02 I have no idea. Why don't you ask Jesus. All I know is, I was lost, deep into pornography and living like the rest of the world. I was never ever a churchgoer until after meeting Jesus in person. Now, I am free from pornography and I am on the streets telling people about how real Jesus is. ...I am curious, where are you at concerning Jesus? Did you grow up in a church? What is your background concerning spiritual beliefs?

[@scottyp02]

@@robertvanwijmeren2685 I grew up agnostic and I remain that way to this day. Of course I’m open to explore new ideas

[@ZbjetisGod]

How about you bring on a real rabbi and not a reformist

[@nicholas3354]

Seems Jonathan is used to confrontation and is therefor willing to face a losing argument, where as orthodox "Jews" are not usually willing to face this topic; because Jesus is very much Messiah and this is very very easy to prove.

[@nicholas3354]

You're right though. There is no point in watching a man with no Truth claims argue about Messiah. The argument about if there is Truth is still valid, but it's the same old argument. Regardless, if "Orthodox Jews" are not willing this is what we're left with.

[@ZbjetisGod]

@@nicholas3354 There are definitely a plethora of Orthodox rabbis that are willing to debate jews for Jesus. Some rabbis have it as there full-time job convincing Jews who left for Christianity to come back (or at least leave JFJ). Many Rabbis face these weak arguments on the daily and often crush the evangelicals. If proving Jesus was the messiah was easy why have the chosen people widely rejected him for millennia, having been the people that actually meet him? The truth is they're both wrong and the fact that someone could appropriate mystical predictions means nothing of there messianic character.

[@cincilitigator5108]

ZbjetisGod Paul said if you don’t believe his arguments it is because you and a veil over your eyes. How convenient for him it means he can’t possibly be proven wrong. That is what the Christians actually would rebut your point with

[@psandbergnz]

Nicholas, actually it is not possible to prove that JEsus is messiah. It is easier to prove that he CANNOT be messiah from the scriptures alone ("old Testament"), since Jesus fulfilled not a single messianic prophecy. Christian messianic claims about Jesus collapse very quickly once CONTEXT is examined. There are also problems with the translation into English of the Hebrew texts.

[@MauricioSmith1991]

Michael Brown is ahead of his time ! Glory be to God For the wisdom and the knowledge understanding that this man has

[@renea4727]

I'm sorry to hear you say this. I'll be praying for the both of you.

[@kensue7821]

The Rabbi is a woke Rabbi. Relativity is more important to him than truth.

[@david-spliso1928]

The Rabbi is presenting a works based gospel. "Look at how good we are." "Doesn't matter what you believe as long as you do good." This is why God rejected Cain's offering, because he was trying to bribe the God of the universe with his works to cover his sin. It _does_ matter what you believe - eternal life - salvation from condemnation for sin - only comes by grace (free gift) through faith (trust) and not of works, so that nobody can boast of their own deeds. God gets all the glory, not fallen man.

[@willhaynes3505]

Michael Brown does the same. He says you can lose salvation by what YOU DO (works) It's the same as saying that Jesus only made a way for you to save yourself.

[@criminaltotheworld3154]

@@willhaynes3505 scripturally we are suppose to act on being born again. Naturally by works shows our repentance by deeds. It definitely takes work to deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Christ. We can never have any other salvation but through Christ, His finished works, and His mercy on us. To live a changed new life in the Spirit. Walk in the Spirit to not fulfill the deeds of the flesh.. It's common sense honestly to be appreciative and live your life the best you can for the one who saved your life.

[@mtalk828]

@@willhaynes3505 - 🔴My dear, the confusion is, you have *2 types of works:* #1. Works by which "you" initiate. Such as, you follow a code, or laws, or a formula to be in right standing with God. And, #2. Works by which "the Holy Spirit in your heart" initiates. You are moved, the Spirit of Grace speaks to your conscience as to what to do and not do. . . So, that is the difference 🙂 #1. Will not save you. Paul refers it to being "under the law." And #2. Is you surrendering your heart first to Jesus to receive the Holy Spirit to guide you. When you "walk" with the Spirit, you are saved and will be saved (if you continue). *If you refuse to walk with the Spirit, follow its dictates on your conscience and obey the commandments of Christ, then like what Dr. Brown and all Catholic Orthodoxy persuasion teach - you will not be saved.* ☝🏽 I agree. Regards 🙏🏽

[@voiceofREASONS]

This talk was very Cain V Able. Not my place to judge but I dont see our Father in heaven accepting this "rabbi's" offering...

[@TheSmithDorian]

"This is why God rejected Cain's offering, because he was trying to bribe the God of the universe with his works to cover his sin" Nonsense. Abel did exactly the same thing and God accepted his offering. " eternal life .. salvation from condemnation for sin - only comes by grace (free gift) through faith (trust) and not of works" You're directly contradicting what Jesus says in Mark 10, Matthew 19 and Luke 18. You're taking the word of Paul over the word of Jesus.

[@GetMooreProductions]

Doesn't matter what he "Believes" (Referring to the Rabbi.) BUT i do know one thing! EVERY knee will bow & EVERY tongue will confess that Jesus / Yeshua is LORD! Bottom Line!

[@mordechaileviyitzchak6738]

Well I for one along with my fellow Jews will not be bowing to either cheesus or yoshkie! We only bow to the Lord G-d of Israel who has never been neither will He ever be a man !

[@geekofgames9191]

@Andrew Russell That makes perfect sense... and I'd agree. (if He were dead!)

[@bratic80]

GetMooreProductions Amin haleluYah!

[@bratic80]

GetMooreProductions Amin haleluYah!!

[@KP-qz3fy]

Amen brother, praise the Lord.

[@RWUltima]

This series is great. I love how the facilitation and moderation is so fair.

[@rebeccahelton3888]

If the rabbi was showing the love and kindness that he speaks of, then he would have been more polite to Dr. Brown and listened to him as Dr. Brown listened to him.

[@1MarmadukeFan]

It’s interesting how the progressive rabbi is initially hesitant to say anything offensive until pressed by the interviewer, at which point he switches to very aggressive and gets personal. The “can’t we all get along” mentality is a sort of fig leaf which drops the second a clear worldview issue comes to the center of the discussion, then it’s no holds barred. Sort of parallels the phenomenon of the “tolerant secular left” also engaging in rioting and vandalism. Push always comes to shove when we’re taking about eternal truth.

[@e.starling141]

Yeah this rabbi was something else. He came off really rude, smug and intolerant at times. And interrupted Michael way too much!! Was reallly frustrating because i wanted to hear him finish his thoughts but many times didn't get to. But yeah he didnt come off as a Godly man to me. And I'm confused as to why hes a rabbi at all if he doesnt value Gods word.

[@Kris77777]

Extremely well said.

[@Andre_Servetus]

Exactly

[@Andre_Servetus]

@@e.starling141 he is a hireling

[@kellygreen3943]

@@e.starling141 Agree!

[@PC-vg8vn]

I would imagine many Jews being quite surprised hearing a 'rabbi' say we dont know if Abraham even existed or if the exodus really happened, it doesnt matter! How odd. Yet the same one says he doesnt believe Jesus is the Jewish Messiah because he didnt bring world peace. Seems he'll believe some things if he can use them to argue against Jesus. BTW he will bring peace, when he returns, which OT texts allude to.

[@eclipsos8187]

He's a jew that simply doesn't even believe the words of his God so he doesn't actually believe in judaism

[@meganlukes6679]

I’d love to see this rabbi on Mount Sinai telling God the first and second commandments are optional

[@andywoo9392]

lol he totally would and argue that He is being exclusive

[@Kris77777]

He would have been one that ended by the sword of the levites in the wilderness. Oy vey

[@lethean333]

You need to grow up.

[@rebirth4christ]

@@lethean333 no . That was a very adult comment

[@sciencescholar3440]

​@@andywoo9392 Ha ha 😂

[@johnpauladlawan9753]

Your heart is so hardened rabbi Jonathan.

[@NicoleSerreli1974]

Brother Brown! Mic drop! I never heard a better defense of the Gospel and the devinity of our Lord Jesus Christ! We need to pray for the salvation of this Rabbi

[@vegassims7]

That Rabbi is one lost soul. He wasn't even sure about his OWN faith and he's a Rabbi? He actually made a better case for atheism.

[@MrClawson99]

This rabbi makes my head hurt

[@babyfacedkayos]

This rabbi is so random. It's almost as if he doesn't know anything or he's purposely LYING!

[@trevorcompton9186]

Yeah I was wondering the same.

[@babayaga9570]

BINGO!

[@dant1310]

He's truly progressive humanist rabi who doesn't believe even in his own Torah.

[@carlduder5426]

No, the Rabbi knows very well what he’s talking about. Most people today, especially literalists and fundamentalists of every variety, including Chasidism and Orthodox Judaism, completely misunderstand and misinterpret all religious texts and the point and purpose of religion. Chasidism is heavily influenced by Romanized theology, which is why it’s so fundamentally absurd and takes a literalist approach to scripture. There’d be no Chasidism or Orthodox Judaism had Romanized Christianity not shaped most of Western culture.

[@babyfacedkayos]

@@carlduder5426 nah.

[@James-ny2xl]

Rabbi Romain: Everyone's right and you're right, but you're wrong that you're right about being the only one who's right. 😂 At the end he says we can't define God, but God has defined Himself and how we are to worship Him, and the rabbi denies that, saying people can worship God by worshipping idols which God very clearly says is not worshipping Him. So who's creating God in their own image in this debate and modifying Him to fit their preferences?

[@shaneelliott8750]

This is what total blindness looks like. He really doesn’t even believe in Yahweh, Abraham, or the Torah. He has zero faith.

[@altinokz]

I would greatly appreciated if you didn't make an attempt to spell our G-d's name in vain. Thank you.

[@TheCaptDude]

Isn't the Torah the Bible of of the Jewish people? Those who do not believe that Jesus is the messiah? I am ignorant. I am here to learn. Oh. Were talking about the Jewish person? I should have watched the entire video before posting. My bad.

[@landonmealer348]

He believes that we can earn our way to heaven. Jesus is the only way

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

@@altinokz Are you being serious? Using the name the great king of the universe is a sin? How absurd.

[@TheCaptDude]

@@landonmealer348 Amen.

[@garyrodgers2558]

Love listening to these debates, praying with love that truth will be revealed.

[@liliankuhn4671]

God never promised that Yahushua would bring peace during his lifetime. He'll bring peace at the end.

[@abirdseyeview3047]

Matthew 10 : 34 - 36. Micah 7 : 6

[@folklorelover13]

Thank you 💙🙏🏻

[@kabutajimmy]

Lilian Kuhn please dont get involved you are different believes . We believe in Jesus .

[@GeoffSh4rt]

What on earth is the point of peace at the end?

[@andrewfindlay7594]

Fantastic interview - thank you both for having this discussion!

[@Believersgospelmusic]

Rabbi Jonathan Romain - PLEASE READ THE FIRST COMMANDMENT - THOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP ANY OTHER GOD.

[@katiekidman9933]

The First Commandment is God's Word period. Where was Jesus when John The Baptist was beheaded? Lies I discovered in my Bible when comparing it to the Torah. God says he hates Pillars and wanted them torn down - Jesus says he's going to build God a church with Pillars? Many unanswered questions between the New Testament and the Old Testament - The Old Testament is my guide to God's Word. He is a jealous God. Be ware of false profits - The evil one is a fallen Angel from Heaven - He wanted to take God's place & got booted - what better way to get to God then to convince people that he is God. God also says that He can not be of flesh and if you look at His face you will die...

[@duatasolo1412]

Christ was sent to save humanity; His mission was bigger than saving just one man from being beheaded. God allows sufferings to his people on earth, but HE promises us His Kingdom and always shows His glory at the end which will be a future parallel of the tribulation period. Also, John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

[@Believersgospelmusic]

@@katiekidman9933 I am not surprised by your comment if you are a Jew. The Bible says you were blinded and you were not suppose to know Messiah for the sake of the Gentiles. He will introduce himself to your people in the second coming, just like Joseph introduced himself to his brethren on their second coming when they went to buy food from Egypt.

[@lipsonjonathan211]

Which of the 3?

[@Believersgospelmusic]

@@lipsonjonathan211 When Joseph introduced himself to his brethren upon their second coming to Egypt, he told everybody including his gentile wife to be away. So Jesus goes to the Jews when the gentile wife will be in heaven after the rupture. Zachariah says they will mourn asking him where he got the scars.

[@christines5430]

I have such a lot of respect for Dr Brown. He is such a gracious man of God, very knowledgeable in the scriptures and obviously in love with the Lord. He excels at clearly articulate what he believes, challenging and questioning others who have a different worldview in a logical and coherent manner.

[@anthonyrowden]

1:00:38 You just defined God as undefinable. You've been defining God as pluralistic this entire conversation good sir.

[@ednaquintana6201]

Hi. When I was a new Christian after 2004, I spoke to Mr. Michael Brown on the radio where he had a regular broadcast answering questions about Christianity. Take Care.😊

[@Antpaok]

His view of who the messiah is is actually the perfect description of who the anitchrist will be, pray for this man he has been deceived

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

Well he’s not exactly speaking for all jews but it’s worth understanding how they feel the messiah will come from scripture. And btw, there are multiple denominations of Judaism too. Karaite are Torah only, not Talmud. Some practice Kabbalah/Zohar, some don’t. Some believe in hell, demons ... some don’t.

[@pop3stealth97]

Nexus he literally said that we would all get to heaven no matter which god(s) we believed in that literally contradicts his own religion and first commandment 😐

[@Antpaok]

@@pop3stealth97 literally a Jew affirming idolatry, idk how one who believes what he does can still even be considered a practicer of Judaism

[@rtee4086]

Antpaok if Christianity really is the truth why don't Christians do as Jesus promised, and do greater works than Jesus did, John 14:12, why can't they handle poisonous snakes and drink any deadly thing without being harmed? Mark 16:17-18, Until Christians can fulfill these prophecies of Jesus, Christianity will be regarded as the Ultimate delusion, and the greatest story ever sold,

[@pop3stealth97]

R Tee Jesus' promise here is not that all who claim to be believers will be endowed with the power to raise the dead or transmute matter. Nor does Jesus mean to imply that future Christians would have widespread supernatural powers. The following verses include two crucial qualifiers: "asking" and "in My name," clearly indicating that God does not sign a blank check for miraculous power to anyone. In part, this prediction of "works" refers to the early days of the apostles, who were granted miraculous signs (Acts 3:1-6). The idea that anyone could do "greater" works than Jesus also helps explain the context. Scripture not only associates Jesus with miracles in the Gospels, it credits Him with creation itself (John 1:1-3). In terms of power, it's logically impossible to suggest anyone could do something beyond what Jesus accomplished. The meaning, therefore, ought to be taken in some other way. The area where Christians can exceed what Jesus did is not "quality," but "quantity." His earthly ministry lasted only about three years-as He says here, He is soon to end this phase of God's plan. Jesus preached without modern communications, or modern travel technology. In contrast, modern evangelists can spend decades preaching to hundreds of thousands of people. Missionaries can serve the furthest reaches of the globe. As of this writing, this website is accessed by more people every week than lived in Jerusalem during Jesus' era. In a year, some bible-related websites speak to more people than populated the Roman Empire in the first century. Does this answer your question? Now can you come to Christ and accept him as your lord and savior. 🙏🏾

[@streetcinematography]

Not ANY Robust Arguments from Rabbi Jonathan. I'm firmly on Michael Brown's side.

[@paulpeekey4972]

Me too

[@surescratch]

You can tell by demeanor which is the believer in Jesus

[@johnferrandino4666]

The rabbi stating that he didn't believe in Jesus wasn't enough?

[@choosejesus1910]

@@johnferrandino4666 lol right

[@gerardk51]

@@johnferrandino4666 I think you've missed the point.

[@rtee4086]

Surescratch: Whatever you think you know about Jesus has come to you from a source, either someone told you or you've read what someone has written, Question? where did the source get their information from?

[@gerardk51]

@@rtee4086 Question? where did the source get their information from? Answer: From Jesus.

[@angelogouveia2487]

Wow, absolutely amazing debate, Dr Brown is so full of wisdom of God. Praise our Lord Jesus King and Saviour of the world. I pray in Jesus' name that the Holy Spirit will open the eyes of this Rabi, and he will know the truth, and the truth will set him free. Praise praise, praise Jesus ❤

[@albertmeneses3132]

The fact that they can discuss their differences and not want to destroy each other shows great improvement. I think there’s room for both them in my world.

[@Greyz174]

not in god's world though he's gonna get really mad at one of them and send them to eternal conscious torment land for some reason

[@oxysz]

@@Greyz174 for some reason ? Like because one is blaspheming and turning people away from the Truth of Jesus ? God is just and will judge accordingly

[@jagnestormskull3178]

​@@oxysz​​ You say that "one is blaspheming and turning people away from the Truth of Jesus ?" Not that one teaches the Torah and the other teaches blasphemy?

[@oxysz]

@@jagnestormskull3178 I don’t understand your comment I’m sorry. Are you saying that you think the Torah is the truth and Christianity is blasphemous?

[@jagnestormskull3178]

@@oxysz Numbers 23:19 (God is not a man), Deuteronomy 5:8 (thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, even any manner of likeness, of any thing that in in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth) Deuteronomy 6:4 (THE LORD IS ONE), Isaiah 44:6-11, and even Christian verses including Mark 13:32 (shows a lack of omniscience on Jesus's part) and John 4:23 (shows Jesus preaching that you should worship the Father, not any sort of triune god) prove that most forms of Christianity are blasphemy.

[@thehelpdesk4051]

"I am the way The truth And the life.... No one Comes to the Father But through me" Jesus of Nazareth The Messiah of the world My Lord and Savior

[@kubura762]

☦️

[@rtee4086]

The Help Desk; John 14:6, was not written by Jesus, These words were put into his mouth like he was A Ventriloquist Dummy, in truth the Biblical Jesus never wrote a single word in the Christian New Testament Bible, here is more overwhelming proof that words were put into Jesus's mouth by Christian forgers, The Original Gospel of Mark ended abruptly at Mk.16:8, you will say yours didn't end there, yours goes on for Another twelve verses, if you have a study Bible, look closer, you may find a footnote or a pair of brackets Telling you verses 16:9--20, are not found in the oldest manuscripts, meaning that verses 9 to 20 were Fraudulently place in Mark's Gospel by Christian forgery, Christians love to point to the Jewish Old Testament Bible, claiming prophesy says Jesus is the Messiah, well, according to Jewish scripture, The Messiah must be a descendant of King David, see ( Jeremiah 23:5, & 33:17, Psalm 89:35--37, etc. ) How could Jesus be the Messiah if his biological father wasn't Joseph ? The Gospel of Matthew claim Joseph was the legal father of Jesus by adoption, you can't pass on genealogy by adoption, So the Christian God failed to fullfil the first of seven prophecies that the real Messiah will have to fullfil, beside, The Jewish Bible never ever speaks about believing in the Messiah, and it never ever speaks about a second for the Messiah. Jesus is just another Failed Messiah, throughout Jewish history there are many failed Messiah's read about Shabtai Tzvi, Bar Kochba etc,

[@rtee4086]

That should have been, The Jewish Bible never ever speaks about a second-coming for the Messiah,

[@thehelpdesk4051]

@R Tee there are 2 genealogical records of Jesus of Nazareth recorded in Holy Scripture....Luke's is Mary's lineage. Matthew's is Joseph's. The royal line of David is not only passed through Joseph (Jesus legal father) but also physically through Mary's lineage. Both parents are descendants of David. Thus, Jesus of Nazereth has a direct and legal claim to the throne.

[@thehelpdesk4051]

@R Tee in light of the fact that the first century Jewish writers of scripture recognized Jesus as the Messiah... As did his Jewish disciples As did the many Jewish Christians who started the church and were persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ.... 2000 years later, your opinion does not change the validity of His Lordship or void his messianic claim. He was rejected by many, then.... He is still rejected by many, now...

[@frankiecal3186]

“Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism.” Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935

[@WPBruce]

An excellent, lovely and thought provoking debate. Very helpful understanding some of the different Jewish view points. I especially appreciate Michael Brown.

[@1156511]

The rabbi was quite unfortunately ill-equipped for the discussion, and had only one tired, wishy-washy, response ("well, we all can get to God, and who are you to say anyone is wrong?") to every literate point that Dr. Brown made.

[@MrRoundthetwist]

Daniel Bilodeau that’s unfortunate..

[@Jen8973]

Yes and he quickly got to condescending comments and in effect acted like a atheist and didn’t quote any scripture in his flimsy arguments

[@1156511]

@@Jen8973 Yes, honestly, his arguments were shamefully lackluster.

[@alexmorton8837]

Join me in praying for this Rabbi he's completely lost

[@1156511]

@@alexmorton8837 Very good direction to take the discussion.

[@whitneymunroe5899]

Thank you Mr. Michael Brown, you spoke with much clarity and conviction. Thank you Rabbi Jonathan Romain for having this conversation.

[@awesomemccoolname7111]

Stealth burn

[@labseytv1512]

Why is it so hard for some Jews to believe that Jesus is the Messiah? Did He not liberate them from Rome and conquered their oppressive Romans? Today they are free and I think that is possible because Jesus liberated them from oppression and Roman enslavement. Besides, Jesus is all over the Old Testament as revealed by the prophets of old. He also fulfilled majority of things predicted by them. Some of these predictions are still being fulfilled today.

[@loveone4life361]

Great discussion on both sides. To hear what both men believe. This helps me to learn to conduct myself before others that don't believe in the Christ in a respectful manner. Thanks for the platform 🙌🙏😀

[@michaellonergan8012]

Excellent Presentation.Thank You.

[@accumulator4825]

I loved watching this and hearing both men say what they really believe. Thank you for being brave and speaking honestly where the whole internet can see.

[@tf-in1vg]

Except Jonathan doesn't really believe anything. He said all paths lead to God. He doesn't believe in absolute truth.

[@jsharp3165]

@@tf-in1vg He believes in the absolute truth that there are no absolute truths.

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

Following Gods word is important, what one believes is not important. Following the word of God is what leads to salvation. Doing good works is the result of following God, good works does not lead to God.

[@diagorasofmelos9283]

'I'm uncomfortable now because to continue I'll have to debunk you." "Oh don't worry Michael is used to that sort of thing. "

[@latinmoses8417]

Wait you say Michael got debunked?

[@leonardsmith2170]

@@latinmoses8417 Diagoras is just quoting the moderator.

[@MauricioSmith1991]

This guy was not ready for Michael ! Sorry man

[@Justadudeman22]

😆

[@jeffreymicah]

The Torah says there is only one God. And He wants everyone to know the truth about who He is. The "rabbi" sounds foolish.

[@WilliamBrownGuitar]

Wow, Rabbi Romain's worldview seems so superficial and frankly almost childish. I do not know how he could be considered a Jew when he has almost no Jewish beliefs. One wonders if he believes God or in truth. If this is Judaism it's a real embarrassment. Justin needs to find a better Rabbi and redo this discussion.

[@watchgoose]

well, there are many Jewish sects and they don't all believe or practice alike. You'd have to see which one this rabbi espouses to understand his point of view. Some don't even accept that Moses penned the Torah at God's command.