Uncle = Red Harlow?

[@just_a_guy247]

Don't matter if its canon or not. Uncle will always be red in my eyes

[@grape668]

Yes

[@Nomad958]

couldn't agree more

[@Zig-ZagDZ]

Yeah

[@supergamingclips1]

Exactly!

[@ThatAverageGamer0]

FACTS

[@walterkovacs8749]

Fun fact , Uncle got the name one shot kid , from the ladies at the saloon.

[@hk357]

😂😂

[@merrylakay8310]

Source?

[@walterkovacs8749]

@@merrylakay8310 uh.... I think some guy named Micah said so. Yeah, that's it. 😉

[@Sarcastican_]

One Pump Chump, but the ladies couldn't handle more than one pump of lumbago.

[@johnnycod3638]

It's the only reason you can come up with when Unlce calls himself that the first time you visit Valentine. And according to Arthur's reply, I think he was thinking the same 😂

[@ionobru]

he also said that hunting bounties is a young man’s game, and when he was theoretically a young man he was bounty hunting

[@themilkman6644]

Braindead

[@ionobru]

@@themilkman6644 wdym

[@hilium6730]

why "theoretically" ?

[@ionobru]

@@hilium6730 cause I’m talking about the theory that he is red harlow

[@johnnycod3638]

Uncle is an old man, obviously bounty hunting isnt a job that suits him

[@something1122]

Red dead revolver and red dead redemption were confirmed to be seperate universes, but in my opinion uncle is redemption's counterpart to revolver's Red Harlow.

[@cyber1ifeconnor]

actually they have been confirmed as in the same, therez a refference in rdr2

[@Brotherhood_Paladin]

You can find an NPC in rdr2 that talks about red Harlow. They’re the same univers

[@enxangura5263]

Funny that its different but red harlow is still mentioned as red harlow a legendary bountyhunter in the game

[@giorgiocialdini3796]

​​@@cyber1ifeconnor The director of all 3 games said that they are in different universes, no room for discussion

[@martyscurllisinnocent4324]

​@@giorgiocialdini3796 Red is mentioned IN the game he created. IN THE GAME. INSIDE OF THE GAME. I think that's the end of discussion

[@bichaelhull1843]

I always saw the adventures of red Harlow as a campfire story. The actual events that happened have been changed drastically with the word of mouth(like the telephone game). I think uncle was “red harlow” but the actual events are very different from the campfire stories.

[@josephflannery9015]

I like this idea

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Im pretty sure in red revolver they literally say its a campfire story

[@riverdaletales8457]

@@Jacobtheunwiseno, they say the story of red Harlow in read dead redemption in a campfire

[@Joe-uz7vd]

@@riverdaletales8457 they say it in a campfire? that must have been painful...

[@StiffMeat]

bruh... play the game before you say what happens... The entire story comes from a sheriff telling you a story. @@riverdaletales8457

[@WheelchairKermit]

Uncle is love. Uncle is life. The lumbago is a curse set upon him by Dutch to stop him from staging a mutiny.

[@soph2476]

i fucking hate uncle that guy gets on my last nerve

[@sluchx2692]

😂

[@I_live_inside_your_walls]

Uncle spread his lumbago to Arthur and then he died to lumbago as well 😔 this wasn’t part of the plan

[@garyroachsanderson7044]

Those scars healed so good they disappeared

[@thetaddman1343]

The scars could've faded too

[@Mrguy145]

​@@thetaddman1343scars that deep won't fade no matter how long it takes

[@cfu5305]

Red is the legend, uncle is the man. Perfect example of the fish getting bigger and bigger each time the tale is told.

[@shawnathanm1152]

Red Harlow's face is scared. Uncle's is not. I don't think Red would go lazy like Uncle has.

[@RapGodHulk39]

You forgot about his lumbago

[@soldierflyinskygoofy]

“It’s real serious John…L U M B A G O”

[@barbraphillips3728]

Lumbago will do that to u

[@sluchx2692]

Lumbago sounds like a beverage

[@waltuh4ever]

covered in beard?

[@sushiman7825]

If u look at red harlows scar’s they are exactly the same as uncle in rdr1 but not 2.

[@zamed9037]

I think Uncle was just a Big Fan of red Harlow and decided to call himself the one shot kid

[@dohvahkene4473]

But Red was never called that.

[@noriakipolpo8653]

Red harlow and uncle are around the same age💀

[@dohvahkene4473]

@@noriakipolpo8653 Revolver takes place in the 1880's and is only around 20 at the time, and during RDR2 would be around his 30's. Uncle is at least 50 as he said he was born between the fall of 1849 and the fall of Rome.

[@noriakipolpo8653]

@@dohvahkene4473 bro who said to you that red harlow was 20 in the game ?

[@dohvahkene4473]

@@noriakipolpo8653 According to the Red Dead Wiki and what's shown and said in the game itself, he is in his 20's during the game. His model for Redemption backs this up as he is easily under the age of 30. Now let's focus on the fact that even if he was 30, that's still a 20 year gap to Uncle.

[@yoshikagebuma7941]

How I like to imagine it is back in Uncle's "one shot kid" days he was "Red Harlow" but people would start to greatly exaggerate his story adding in all the magical elements, and even adjusting the date/time when Uncle had done all of that to a later time even though Uncle had long abandoned those days, and some how ended up in Dutch's gang.

[@riverdaletales8457]

red is actually 19/20 at the time red dead revolver takes place. he would be 29 by the start of red dead redemption 2 . Uncle got grey hair and is clearly old. He is in his 50s

[@Cheesemonkey231]

Uncle says he was born sometime between "1849 and the fall of Rome." If uncle was born in the mid 1840s, he would be in his early 20s just at the end of the civil war, when the true "wild" west Era began. That would make him in his late 50s in RDR2, and late 60s in RDR1. It just barely works if you assume that Red dead Revolver as we know it is a campfire story, and some dates don't line up completely.

[@joeychaparro702]

That would be a pretty shitty end to Harlow's story to end up as Uncle

[@riverdaletales8457]

red is actually 19/20 he would be 29 by the start of red dead redemption 2 . Uncle got grey hair and is clearly old. He’s in his 50s

[@bambigaming1866]

I mean, but uncle fighting for the last bit of family he has is an amazing way of resolving a character.

[@Xent835]

Uncle is too lazy to be red harlow

[@nonameman7114]

Is it tho? I mean it fits rockstar’s MO with writing social commentary. Former hero turned old washed up gunslinger with nothing but memories of the glory days. Then ending his story by saving a family in a standoff with the government.

[@m.c4847]

Yeah idk why people would want to imagine he grew to be an old lazy man who just leaches off the work of the people around him lol

[@elijahdavis2288]

The way Uncle's demeanor completely changes in the final mission of Red Dead 1 as the bad guys ride in all but confirms it for me personally.

[@fleetwoodcraic4235]

Yeah he can shoot just as well as the rest of the gang. He also is pretty ballsy in camp interactions, and is never really scared of Micah or Dutch at any point

[@killergames9256]

Red harlow has deep scars on his face which uncle doesn't have

[@grandpagrubber]

He's probably not, but Its better to pretend that he is. That theory is way too cool not to be true.

[@evant4739]

@International1066 yes it does, you cant find one piece of definitive proof that uncle isn’t red if you take all the given details into account. but you can make a solid argument for uncle being red from whats in the games. the most obvious definitive proof is the backstory, because why would the writers at rockstar decide to specifically give uncle the exact same origin as the protagonist of their first game, knowing that a popular fan theory from rdr1 was uncle is red. and it’s clearly cannon and not something they added to fuck with people because uncle makes references to reds childhood in rdr1 as well, it’s not a coincidence because someone had to write it and cross reference it and have it proof read. so its fact.

[@romanbellic6048]

​@Evan T Rockstar said them selves that uncle is not red Harlow. Also Rockstar said that revolver and redemption are in 2 separate universe not to mention the ages don't match up

[@mr.herbert532]

@@evant4739 no it doesn't you're reaching, those scars don't just magically disappear, stop being a faithful dumbass and start using your head

[@SN4KE3ATER]

@@evant4739 i feel like so many ppl forget the Red is Native American and Uncle is the complete opposite

[@mommatthew2756]

@International1066 😂 bro legit gave proof 😂 w comment

[@skyviktor7103]

Are we just gonna forget that Harlow has scars all over his face and uncle doesn't?

[@real.revJosva]

There you go, thinking logically, noticing the most important details 😉

[@hikkisan9263]

Uncle has a beard tho

[@spacegoose6358]

@@real.revJosva scars can heal

[@spacegoose6358]

Scars heal and he had a beard

[@skyviktor7103]

@@spacegoose6358 scars don't heal. What are you talking about? Also he shouldn't have a full beard because of how big those scars are and there is a scar on Harlow's nose and uncle doesn't have one on his

[@brentthegtakid9468]

"Tell the devil Red Harlow sent you." -Uncle

[@serarthurdayne41]

He’s got that Lumbago, that’s for sure.

[@propheticjoe]

Uncle lost his parents at 9, Red Harlow lost his parents at 14 if I'm not mistaken.

[@gordonpeterson678]

He lied

[@cosmicwarrior_]

I doubt he's the same person. Red has distinctive scars on his face were his facial hair won't grow; similar to how hair doesn't grow on Arthur's chin where he has his own scarring. Not to mention that red is half native American. Uncle doesn't look native at all.

[@spacegoose6358]

Elon musk doesn’t look African 🤷‍♂️

[@somerandombarusu9458]

@@spacegoose6358 what do you mean by this?

[@garfloldlover5147]

@@spacegoose6358 He cant rdr2 takes place 1899 red dead revolver takes place in 1880s

[@spacegoose6358]

@@somerandombarusu9458 he said “uncle doesn’t look native at all”

[@FC12.]

​@@spacegoose6358 Because he's south African. His family is dutch.

[@FunkelMcStump]

Here is my personal theory: Rockstar themselves said that “Red dead revolver takes place in a different universe.” *BUT* Red dead revolver is told from the perspective of the sheriff, meaning that certain events could be over exaggeration or legend. For example, the over the top death of red Harlow‘s parents murderer. Maybe his arm didn’t come clean off, maybe he just got shot and died. This is most likely the sheriff over exaggerating events. So while the events in the game are legend, and most of it likely didn’t happen. Uncle probably was Red Harlow, and the events probably got mixed between real life and fiction thanks to the sheriff. So in conclusion Uncle was Red Harlow. But most of red dead revolver was just fantasy/legend.

[@DarrkSixx]

Maybe they say the games take place in different universes because the universe is actually within the sheriff's mind since it's his version of events? And that sheriff exists in the RDR universe, so technically the games take place in different universes but the stories are in the same universe.

[@arkeezy.]

Overexaggeration? General Diego's cannon arm is very sound logic to me.

[@JoshuaaMS]

rock* already said that they are separate universes. however, that doesn’t mean they don’t have references to revolver in both rdr1 and rdr2. i think uncle being based around red harlow is a bit of a stretch tho. unless lumbago is just that much of a slow and painful death lol

[@doctorcrazy8500]

Harlow sure got happier after he got revenge

[@Jackson-id2nz]

I don’t know if uncle is red or not, but I love the idea of him being a secret badass when he is younger

[@codysullivan656]

In real world they can't be the same person because franchise is owned by different companies, but They dance around uncle being Red and I love it, it gives uncle more depth because it's just blown out of proportion tales of uncles youth. That's pretty on par when it comes to uncle lmao

[@codysullivan656]

@@user-op7cy6th7f it was originally made by Capcom. Rockstar then bought a studio and revived the project after a head left the project in 2003.

[@KC.45]

That is completely false. Where did you get the idea of Rockstar tricking people into thinking he is Red Harlow?

[@riverdaletales8457]

red is actually 19/20 at the time red dead revolver takes place. he would be 29 by the start of red dead redemption 2 . Uncle got grey hair and is clearly old. He is in his 50s the ages don’t match at all.they don’t even look alike

[@Grouchygrumpenstein]

He’s DEFINITELY Red Harlow, Nobody can change my mind

[@connorsgamingpalace7298]

Rockstar said he's not also he doesn't have the scars

[@riverdaletales8457]

red is actually 19/20 at the time red dead revolver takes place. he would be 29 by the start of red dead redemption 2 . Uncle got grey hair and is clearly old. He is in his 50s the ages don’t match at all.they don’t even look alike

[@Daddy_gojo_uwu]

Yes

[@laughinggasmakesmedie4036]

fr, i remember there was a npc interaction in new austin where this guy talks about the “tale of red harlow” but thats all i remember

[@luckycharm4408]

Red is Native American…. uncle isn’t…. Did any of these gen z kids even play the first game or like what???

[@Yahya_sindhi1502]

Rockstar confirmed that Red Dead Revolver and Red Dead Redemption are in separate universes

[@k_dub0257]

That music gives me so many rdr2 online memories

[@nerfmodderguy217]

Bro, I never even thought about it like this. Uncle is now Red to me, no matter what. Man had no problem helping John hold off a swarm of federals, that kinda grit comes from the bounty hunting life. So wild

[@jayrowland5386]

If he was red he woulda killed all the feds

[@nerfmodderguy217]

@@jayrowland5386 dude had lumbeygo(?) all jokes aside, he can probably barely clear leather at his age, why do you thing he tends to use a shotgun and only towards the end of his life he uses a rifle

[@elcazador1]

maybe if rdr was canon

[@spacegoose6358]

@@elcazador1 it is

[@MrError3000YT]

@@spacegoose6358Isn't. Rockstar confirmed it.

[@sodiumchloride6299]

Only if it wasn’t for the lumbago

[@MuggzyYT]

His secret is that the lumbago made his deadeye the strongest

[@Kendallgray1fan]

Red Harlow and one shot kid are to completely different people in the rdr universe bro

[@ahtiulanen6122]

There is also a place called two crows in new austin cholla springs or gaptooth ridge called "two crows" which greatly resembles the childhood home of red harlow

[@Unnamed-Cowboy]

This video makes me think he is, and even if its not canon, its funnier this way aswell. However wheres the special revolver and scars?

[@MEATYPEAR]

Everyone gangster until Uncle shows up without Lumbago

[@himanshukaushal3885]

Uncle turning out to be red Harlow would be soo cool

[@JapatiYTP]

Hes not in 1880s he would be like 30 and in 1899 uncles like 68

[@Fugitive685]

45

[@Fugitive685]

Red would be 45

[@xyagold6990]

I like the idea of Dutch and Hosea meeting a wandering gunslinger with a deadly aim, offered him a job and the three of them worked together for some time. As time went on, civilization began to settle in, and the gang, now fully formed, was focusing less on robberies and more on survival and Red's skills had waned a bit with age. Hosea and Dutch couldn't just leave him behind, and so he remained as more of a elderly mentor figure in the gang and the others began addressing him as "Uncle".

[@gunnarmeissnest1654]

i like the idea cause everyone shits on uncle but he's actually a legend. that's like shitting on an elderly naruto😂

[@jakedapig_4293]

Also people forget that red dead revolver was told from the sheriffs standpoint so it was probably exaggerated so uncle could technically still be red

[@kebabthebunny247]

Short answer. No

[@TrippyStefTV]

No he’s not

[@R2spammer2009]

No he is

[@TrippyStefTV]

@@R2spammer2009 nope I’ll explain why he isn’t if you want. But if you’re gonna be like everyone else and just straight up play blind and ignorant just to try to justify your stupid head canon then I’m not gonna bother giving you the evidence. Here’s just some of them. Red is 45 In rdr2 uncle is in his 50’s. Red has 5 goddamn deep scars on his face and a scorpion burned into his palm, uncle doesn’t. I’ll keep going but only if you want. Like I said I’m not about to waste my time if you’re just gonna refuse to believe the truth

[@37138-BIBLEBELT]

Thy shall be ith

[@r011ing_thunder6]

​@@R2spammer2009 no

[@kirbyx2137]

It's all fun and games until red Harlow gets diagnosed with lumbago

[@emmmaritchie3532]

Uncle is lacking the very prominent scars that Harlow has on his face

[@llamadude635]

Uncle said he was born in Ohio so that means red dead revolver might take place in Ohio 💀

[@VeryConfusingPerson]

Little did Red Harlow knew, his greatest enemy would be lumbago

[@bori_borii]

Uncle doesn't have scars in his face

[@phantomwarper5257]

If you hear uncle you can see that he says he was 9 when he lost his parents, and red looks about 15 or 16 when he loses his parents.

[@geniemannn7275]

Exactly, also uncle moved away while Red stayed in his home for revenge.

[@gameingbong0]

Red dead revolver is set inside the folk lore of the red dead redemption series so it could be possible that red is uncle. I mean stories gotta start somehow. And with a lot of folk lore stories details change names years ect.

[@RoboticTacoo]

But , red as like five distinct scars on his face

[@joshmonroe5740]

scars on his face. no scars on uncles face

[@user-ci7mi7nf9s]

The ages don’t add up so Uncle cant be Red Harlow.

[@empathicdesign8375]

This is a great song to listen to while playing Red Dead Redemption 2!!

[@daybocook]

Uncle is definitely red Harlow

[@KelvinAdams.]

Even the shotguns match each others

[@timberwolf5883]

To me Uncle will always be Red Harlow. I love imagining badass gunfighter turning into a crotchety old man with LuMbAgO

[@lemonz9638]

I just like that uncle is the one that started the conspiracy 🤣

[@afterstew1046]

Imagine if one of the developers just slipped that line in there to fuck with us. I just imagine some RockStar lead being like "alright guys, now look what you've done."

[@KC.45]

​@@afterstew1046 The "One-shot kid" line was completely taken out of context by the fans. The community basically made this a fanfiction, not a theory.

[@Alcatonic]

Rdr3 better be playing as uncle

[@sayajinboy4703]

A dlc or a cameo would been cool though, I prefer dlc, the dlc should called the one shot kid

[@henryhawthorne8460]

Red Harlow in Revolver is just the sensationalized version of the real Red Harlow in Redemption: Uncle

[@redact7577]

I personally think that Uncle is Red Harlow and the actual Red Harlow story is just a bit of an exaggerated version of uncle’s shenanigans

[@LynxPlaysYT]

Uncle is a balding Caucasian man while Red Harlow is a Native American, pure Native Americans don't bald and the fact that Red Harlow's dad doesn't have male pattern baldness and his mom is Native American shows that he wouldn't go bald like Uncle.

[@Mysticdrafts698]

Uncle was born in 1849 Red harlow was born in 1851

[@gimmixxx8767]

Speedrunning shorts, is uncle red harlow? Nope

[@ChewyPinata]

Red harlow was in his 20s in Red dead revolver which was set around the 1880s which makes him around marstons age during rdr2 or most likely Arthur's age 🤔

[@ChadtheBad]

“He has a revolver. He wore a red shirt one time. And his hands are dirty.” Hell, that’s enough for me

[@TenzorVR]

chapter 2: Uncle:you know they used to call me the one shot kid!

[@Dext3r0us]

that was a sexual joke

[@yungmulahrp5132]

I always thought they looked similar too, that coupled with the fact his nickname was the "one shot kid" no doubt in my mind.

[@jacksonharris5707]

I think uncle is just a walking reference to red harlow

[@Kyanluck]

Rockstar just make it cannon 😂

[@jamman8364]

The lumbago even nerfed his scars like daym lumbago be hitting hard

[@THATDOOD420]

Let’s be real who would want to play a prequel story to red dead 2 as a young uncle 😂

[@atomiic39]

the red cloth is like the cowboy's red cloth in tombstone

[@alexcopenhaver3736]

When it came down to it uncle was good with a gun. Man was easily in his 70s and held of the army with nothing but a rifle.

[@xbottomboix7837]

The lumbago nerfed him

[@brohanfromrohan5771]

Completely ignoring the lack of scars on his face. No, it's not him.

[@AricRastley]

Dang, that lumbago changed him

[@masquerade3852]

Rockstar has said red dead revolver exists in a separate continuity and Red exists as little more than an urban legend in redemptions universe I believe

[@BlockedAccount552]

Timeline doesn’t match up but he’s a Legendary man with lumbago.

[@travismeta3727]

If uncle was truly red I’m sure he wouldn’t be joking around as much after the events of Red Dead Revolver

[@HurtSmooch601]

I feel like he's not red Harlow only because of the timeline. Uncle looks like that in 1899, and red dead revolver takes place in the 1880s. That doesn't mean he's not him, but that would mean that uncle ages like cheese

[@MrChef-uu2ff]

Uncle might not be Red Harlow, but I just like the idea about comic relief character secretly being badass gunslinger.

[@Reddeaddreams]

For me he is the real one shot kid

[@christopherrobbins0]

Uncle is either Red or he rode with Red when he was younger. We need RDR3 to be about Uncle in like 1870.

[@danielfaulkner8948]

Red Harlow is too serious and no nonsense to be uncle

[@ashary9675]

Things lumbago do to you...

[@charlottefrantzen4579]

I like the theory that Red Harlow is how Uncle tells stories of his younger days. There’s truth to it, but it’s greatly exaggerated

[@Arthur_Morgan459]

Red Harlow was born in the 1860s which places him around Arthur's age, while Uncle is much older. Also Red Harlow is just a campfire tale in the redemption universe

[@matyuuu]

But alcohol makes you age much faster.

[@NotBadCouldBeBetter]

Red Harlow has scars on his face, Uncle doesn’t.

[@austinmurray7298]

Maybe uncle was the inspiration behind the story of red Harlow when uncle was an actual gunslinger instead of an outlaw

[@taylorhinkle7323]

Cmon it's uncle, we all know that's not dirt on his hands

[@ivanantu8106]

Red wasn't goofy like uncle was

[@legendaryrat7955]

They even look a like

[@themilkman6644]

They don't, red harlow is half native American uncle is full on white. Uncle is fat and old without the scars on his face. You live in a fairy tale

[@heidro1005]

No they don't 🤣🤣🤣

[@legendaryrat7955]

@@heidro1005 they are

[@Texamak]

he’s probably not red but it’s fun to believe he is.

[@joebilly6097]

Red harlow got that kratos wrap

[@horatio906]

Red Harlow is 20 year's younger than uncle and before you say he has the scar's he's a old man he has wrinkles

[@aurteekay6339]

Dude if red dead 3s main character was uncle coming out as red Harlow that would be so sick. His final stand, him and John

[@Realbobo]

He shit at the wall in front of him in that first shot

[@SanAndreasStateMilitary]

"Is uncle actually red harlow" Yes

[@Realbobo]

We either die as Arthur, or live long enough for us to become uncle

[@9_2gv2]

no, uncle dont got no scars on his jaw

[@FunnyF0X3]

Most of us know rdr (revolver) and rdr2 are in different universes but i think its prwtty cool that rockstar still remembered their old games

[@TailsUHD]

Red has a scorpion engraving burned on his arm from his dads revolver, he has it hidden away because it's like being branded like live stock.