UNDEFEATED WINNER REPORT! cEDH Rograkh Silas Combo. Topdeck.gg $10K Open 1st Place MTG EDH

[@TheEPICStorm]

Wow sick deck bruh

[@BoshNRoll]

I'm a n*tde*ker

[@kevinsimmons5343]

Some say it’s a pile of broken

[@aarlavaan]

@@BoshNRoll ew... dirty...

[@urgoingtojail3892]

​@@BoshNRoll50:00 you can still bounce dauthi and breach combo win without Thassa. You brain freeze out your opponents and then wheel to force them to draw. Still a creative win but definitely had a chance of whiffing3

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Honestly, I would still voraciously consume a tournament report even if you went 0-4. The insight you provide is invaluable.

[@nicholascmcneill]

Yes!

[@Cowter4]

Hear hear

[@owenmatwe2272]

"Many time CEDH champion" love how it just keeps filling up. Here's to many more!

[@jeffwren7815]

Watching Bosh incredulously explain the hoarding broodlord line is pretty funny.

[@traycarrot]

The fact that you can win cEDH events like they're side quests is astounding. TES pioneering fundamental changes in RogSi is also a testament to how well-rounded the Eternal Glory crew's understanding of Magic is (and, of course, how much hard work you all do).

[@bradcallahan3546]

If you roll dice enough times you’ll get the result you want. That’s what he’s doing. He’s ok.

[@vincenturmom]

Hello! I was the Winota player in Round 2. The draw turn was with 2 possible triggers in play (if winota was in play) and trying to kill the tevesh as it was the only draw engine. I pondered on taking the draw or not as I could have played out winota through 1 piece of interaction, but not multiple. Further, even if I could've gotten through the interaction, I was going to only have 1 trigger as the Tymna/Kraum in seat 2 was stating he would kill the Legion Loyalist I had to swing with to be able to kill the Tevesh out. I definitely agree on forced draws being not great for the format, but in the position we were in I did not really want to risk trying to grind out with only a potential single trigger. It was great to play against you, the game was very enjoyable with good politicing table talk.

[@BoshNRoll]

Yeah it was a bad spot for you. My point is that you and Tvesh were still taking game actions while me and TK were not. If Tvesh pushes too hard into TK and my interaction, it could give you a window. If you push too hard, it could give Tvesh a window. If everyone turtles up, then we reach the same result 30 minutes later but at least you were live for 4 extra points that whole time. If your worry was being the one pushing too hard and opening the door for Tvesh, then Tvesh should not have agreed to draw. Whoever is in the best position there should have used the remaining time to throw shit at the wall and see if any sticks. Successful players put themselves in position to get lucky when things are bad. If the fail case (play to a draw) is 1 point, but the miracle case (you spike a win) is 5 points, locking in the fail case (ID) with plenty of time to chase a miracle will hurt more than help over a career of tournament play.

[@vincenturmom]

@@BoshNRoll in that spot i felt like i was the one pushing the door which wouldve opened it for the seat 1 unfortunately. In that spot i just did not feel in a great spot of strength. Unlucky for me in the round 4 game i was in a stronger spot, felt i did not need to accept the draw that was being offered then immediately lost. Missed out top 16 by 1 point, such is life.

[@unded252]

I saw a vid "recently" about a player having a meltdown on Reddit after they and their opponent were points deducted due to "improperly determining a winner" and I was about to ask how one would avoid this, in a situation like this, til I did some googling about learned about 3.12 saying you can reveal cards from your hands legally! Weird rules are weird XD

[@RodrigoCML7]

Our boy won’t rest until the many-time cEDH champion slide is a collage. Kudos!

[@gabrote42]

3:15 Went and read the primer. Any deck that is playing three copies of Final Fortune is a banger for me. I adore it

[@nateridgewaymusic]

Killer killer deck and piloting!!

[@fernsthefern]

hey this guy's pretty good at magical cards

[@rd1012]

BAD DOG is the Legendary Kaalia Player! Great Tourney report! Grats on the W Bosh!!!

[@johnweinhandl8890]

Came here to say this

[@wanderingaming5805]

Congrats on the wins! I think the most important thing to take away from this is how being an incredible player can still have wildly different outcomes. You having that 14 month no top 16 spree and then winning a major event is super inspiring. Many people are results oriented and don’t understand that Magic, and especially cEDH have just a tiny little hint of luck involved. Even when peeps lose it’s not always “Skill Issue” cause I think you’re great. GG

[@GlacialCityMTG]

This guy can play some serious high level magic. Fantastic to see in person. For hours he wanted Bryan(Duckie), the sefris player gone. Welcome to my locals with the sefris menace!!! Congrats going undefeated, lucky or not we take those in this format 🎉

[@seanjelle]

Great report as always! I love these. Congrats on the result!

[@tking5218]

Love the overview of this video, even though I am midrange stax player (Tymana Tana). As always appreciate your analysis in tournaments and your overview of what you play. Bringing up draw culture, I 100% agree with you!

[@828dub]

I love all of your content, but these tournament reports are always a sweet treat!

[@ryandoody645]

Absolutely incredible

[@ericashmead4049]

Hell yeah Bosh, bringin it to them, then to us. Congrats on the victory!

[@p1k4nurxp13sr]

Rograkh/Silas for president 2024

[@music00soba]

just cant stop the bosh pack smoke em if you got em

[@nicholascmcneill]

thanks for talking about the ID meta game that happens. It is interesting to think that even tho they may have been incentivized to draw to stop the other from winning, the draw also stopped the remaining players from losing. In a tournament setting, the chance to make your opponent lose seems similarly valuable to the chance of you winning, so why not (like you said) take that extra time to sure up your choices, especially if there wasn’t much time pressure from the rest of the table (although the Winota player did have some obstacles to Overcome)

[@astrowerm]

Congrats dude! You definitely deserve it!

[@Adatari_MTG]

Great run!

[@LemorasCards]

JUST WIN 💀

[@p1k4nurxp13sr]

7:12 Silas also can be thought for beseech the mirror 🧠

[@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674]

Brain, these reports are just as interesting and engaging as your gameplay videos!! Love all the content. Best MTG content creator and a true gentleman. Congratulations on your victory!

[@jalexander6885]

Having seen you play I'm not surprised at all you took this tournament

[@DTrain5742]

Congrats! I was definitely regretting keeping the turn 1 Wheel hand in hindsight but it’s so hard to ship a hand that has Mana Crypt and Ad Nauseam as well.

[@christianlei2519]

Yeah if you are player 1 or 2 wheeling turn 1 is defintly the way to go imo. I see what you were thinking in pure value of cards. What I think should have been put into consideration is they kept that hand for a reason. Wheel and let rng figure out the rest.

[@pearcehubbart3767]

Gemstone and dockside are what are counted as balances in the favor of later turn order. But those arent much compared to rhystic and fishtick turn ones being so dominant.

[@CharlotteMimic]

I really dig the idea "draws are zero points" in cEDH. Not that i play the format, but it feels like it elegantly slices some Gordian knots

[@THEcowboybob_MTG]

Fun game Brian hope that draw I forced helped u game two lol

[@rhettromw7525]

Congratulations!

[@smartfulbert]

Oracle Necropotence is different from the one that you read in the deck tech. It creates a trigger when a card is discarded instead of a replacement effect.

[@DankAudioStash24]

This is not a man, but a machine!

[@TripsAhoy]

Grats dude! Killin it! ❤❤❤

[@pearcehubbart3767]

Erinis street urchin is a crazy fun deck. Closest you can build to like a prison combo deck in my opinion.

[@dill9424]

nice vid, great run

[@Olivia-ev9hk]

Love these reports glad to see you back at the top of one of the top three formats in the game!

[@PokeJohn7]

38:30, do you mind me asking why you gambled for fierce when you could've gambled for flare of duplication, copied the ad-naus in response to their ad-naus and probably drawn into a counter for their ad-naus (with tons of extra value as well)? You had valley, so could've dumped rocks if needed too. (I'm learning rog-si and am just hoping to learn why that play isn't the right choice)

[@hangryherbivore]

On average, which type of tournament has the higher opponent skill level: paper cEDH or paper Vintage?

[@Josh-ik5zg]

i'm putting together a rog si list and have been listening to your recap to try and gauge my list. in the top 16 match with the tivit player i believe; you mention the wishclaw being key in helping you play through interaction in a sort of end step battle. could you elaborate on how wishclaw talisman was helpful?

[@Siffy5654]

In my play group we have the joke that blue farm is Rog/Si with training wheels on (silence effects) so I am glad to see you all grown up. (Of course not to be taken too seriously) Even though my own current list is way less responsible and trading a lot of answers and interaction for pure speed and chaos

[@braydenrobbins7620]

Let’s go! cEDH best magic format

[@tsimehcMTG]

What?? No Urza's Saga / Vexing Bauble Vintage content ... I've been SCMADD!

[@BoshNRoll]

That will probably be out Friday or next Tuesday haha. It is recorded don’t worry

[@ix_risor]

Don’t worry, after grief ban you can’t get scammed again

[@joecheif3080]

Man the way I see it , you’re a top racer but not engineer. Sure you’re not designing your “car” but you’re definitely driving better than anyone to win what you do . Congrats!

[@DasTannenbaum]

He just can't stop winning!

[@aubreyblount3833]

Rog si won??? 😮😮😮 no way what 😮😮😮

[@guilhermezuchini4227]

Thks Bosh! 😍

[@nebDDa]

the goat returns

[@SananabESU]

Can you link your mtgo games that you mentioned guesting on ~ 12:51

[@BoshNRoll]

They were with Back On The Stack, I don't think the episode is out yet.

[@celestialTangle]

Are there lines in certain cEDH matches where you want to use a true infinite combo to force a draw?

[@BoshNRoll]

Tournament policy is that in the case of a draw, 1st seat wins. So you’d have to either win the Swiss or roll up the play to want to do that.

[@Fogshaper]

Praist the Beebles! This man is a mythos.

[@tragghyb2673]

Now that you won with RogSi time to pilot Dargo/Sidar

[@domotoroOfficial]

Good luck in the invitational!

[@matthewsinger3030]

As someone who doesn't play CEDH, I don't particularly like the tournament recaps, but I would love to see any CEDH gameplay. I don't know if that is very feasible, but it would be nice.

[@BoshNRoll]

I've done it a few times, you can check those out. Commander is very difficult to make a good gameplay video out of for a variety of reasons, I'm unlikely to do that.

[@yeahhhhh]

Brian got the RogSi primer 😮

[@aquablue3dsi]

On the "Commander needs to repersent; Mana, a wincon, or card draw." How does Mishra, Excavator Prodigy from Brother's War fair? As a source of mana and card draw? Im sure mono red has some way to levy a win in cEdh. . .

[@aklepatzky]

Yes its called Magda

[@blaaaarrrrgMTG]

Got got by the red entomb lol

[@supremecourt4131]

Will there be a postban list? Love your deck!

[@Atom1c1141]

A little curious, obviously a stellar Magic player not trying to say anything else. I’ve been watching for a while and haven’t seen any content related to preparing for or playing in RC/PT/Worlds? Is that just not an aspiration you have or are formats like standard/pioneer/modern just not something you want to prep/play for when you dominate Legacy/Vintage/CEDH so hard?

[@BoshNRoll]

I did release a Standard video and talked about my prep for the last RC. I was waiting for the ban updates before I plunged into Pioneer for the current RC. None of that is what my core audience wants, but I do put some time into it.

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Yoshi Si is called "dog si", its intended to be a slower, grindier flavor of RogSi

[@rogerrabbit132]

Definitely can tell from the comments section who plays cedh and who doesn't.

[@supremecourt4131]

This deck looks like sooooo much fun it‘s crazy How complicated is this deck to play? Right now i‘m pretty hooked on Kinnan but all those free synergies are sweet af

[@SilentGe42]

I can't follow you on the winning play. How did you cast Thoracle? After you had nothing left in the library werent you forced to draw from borne? Or how did you flash in the thoracle?

[@BoshNRoll]

In my actual winning play, Borne already resolved. In the alternate line where opp went to combat and I have to force the issue, you have to Consult first, hope Oracle doesn't get exiled, then Pact down to 1 card in deck instead of the normal 0 to account for Borne still resolving. Then you flash in Oracle after the stack clears. Pact doesn't exile your deck automatically, you can stop wherever you want.

[@darthdog90]

Hey, great vid. Would you consider doing a video on why 60 card players should try cedh?I mainly play 60 card, and I tried one event and it wasn't really my thing. However, you really seem to enjoy it. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

[@BoshNRoll]

If you search the Eternal Glory Podcast archive for "cEDH" I know we've done multiple episodes on exactly that topic.

[@darthdog90]

@@BoshNRoll ok great thanks.

[@Mr-doot]

Thoughts on the citadel package in rog? Ie citadel, welder, entomb, brainstorm.

[@BoshNRoll]

It's good for a turbo meta and less good for an open meta. I don't think I would have won this event on that build, but I think it would have been a better choice for the invi.

[@Mr-doot]

@@BoshNRoll thanks for the thoughts, im in the heart of the “cracked out west coast” rog build and its a ton of fun and shit tech to eek out over the 3 other rogs at my tables 😂

what song in the intro is? its amazing !

[@williamchu4595]

Where can I find the deck list?

[@BoshNRoll]

In the video description.

[@MTGreat202]

ROG SI

[@johnkater5276]

Bosh Pack FEASTING this year

[@PVDH_magic]

I never played cEDH - competitive multiplayers formats are just not for me - but this deck looks right up my alley. Cool stuff, and gratz on the win!

[@CharlotteMimic]

SEFRIS??? The dungeon reanimator???

[@AdmiralSnakbar77]

I hope she forgave you for not getting to the cats when you brought home 10k, lmao. Congrats!

[@BoshNRoll]

10K was the whole tournament, not 1st place. But yeah she was ok with the $3100 I brought home for 2 days work.

[@p1k4nurxp13sr]

>lose gamble with 18 cards in hand This triggered me really hard

[@mentosmuncher]

Pact of negation, or counter-spell related draws are really stupid. I got countered by a griefer that knew he couldn't win period. No board presence and 2 cards in hand. But was like, " you're trying to win now". I even stopped the other two players from stopping me. But I told him I prefere we both lose than going for one measly point. Especially when one player already had two wins and I had none.

[@IeuroI]

oof, a shitty munchkin situation. sucks man

[@ScoopPhase]

🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@Doormau5719]

You are going to have to play the full song in the intro if you keep racking up trophies like this

[@remy333]

Please update your deck list post-ban 🙏

[@hayokamikaze5896]

If anything, Silas is yet more mana advantage and not card advantage because instead of needing to pay 4 for Rograkh after sacking it twice, you can play Silas for 1UB instead

[@TCG9777]

Bro won $10k in an unofficial format that's proxy friendly? Konami needs to take notes

[@mrmoney2897]

Hey man I private message you! I would love to collab with you and get you on the podcast. You rock Brian

[@darkinsanity98473]

Eww Rog/Si. I think I'm naturally drawn to a deck more like Blue Farm because I prefer mid-rangey types games with more interaction, while still having the ability to quickly win sometimes. Unfortunate that Blue Farm is probably over represented now. Gratz on the win though!

[@rpleeskater1]

I would love to play in tournament with you some time! It could be a battle-of-the-win-rates lol

[@jbzettl427]

Hey can you save some championships for the rest of us geeze. Jk congrats on another win.

[@koreyg8552]

Can you won events with a non tier S arguable top 3 deck? Or you can only win with those decks? Love to see you pilot a deck that’s a top 5 deck

[@BoshNRoll]

I play a small number of cedh tournaments every year and when I spend money to travel and enter events I want to win them. You can do what you want with your time and money, but I have no problem just playing the best decks and wining.

[@shawnspringstead]

Why is there so much drawing in this tournament.

[@BoshNRoll]

1 person gets 5 points for a win and 3 people get zero points for a loss in each match, so folks are constantly scrambling to find 1 point instead of 0 out of a match.

[@sobman]

I would love to see more cEDH content, but, from a streamer/content creator perspective it's really not fun to watch. Not sure how to fix it, or where to have that conversation.

[@Dreg_s]

Somebody stop this man

[@nintendocal5767]

Mmmmm. Wario's

[@nomatyx5789]

another one lol

[@MehrGills]

I normally love your content (and I still do), but calling Kaalia not a cedh deck is just plain incorrect. It's not a top meta deck, obviously, but the only reason people don't get it as a cedh deck is because kaalia is very different (having 4 hits normally) than a high powered kaalia deck. It is a mardu turbo deck that uses its commander to have another separate win axis instead of having (a) commander(s) that only help facilitate main turbo lines in mardu (although there is a lot more nuance here). It also helps that this kaalia pilot is the goat piloter of the deck who has brought it personally to multiple top 16s and top 4s

[@BoshNRoll]

It is obviously literally a cedh deck because it was in a cedh tournament and succeeding. It's not a reach at all to understand what I meant there is that it's not an expected top meta deck that I have reps and experience and would plan to see undefeated in an event. I feel the same about Sefris, which is clearly literally a cedh deck because I had to play against it in the finals. If you're upset by my wording because discord buillies have said told you "that's not cedh" as a gatekeeping action, I get it, but that's a perspective you're applying to something I said, not how I meant it in the provided context. I simply meant it's a wild card at the table.

[@MehrGills]

@BoshNRoll that's fair, and this comment mostly does sum up my feelings on it (including that I can tell your intent wasn't the same as the normal gatekeeping idiots I've run into before). It is a little bit just that kaalia has long been singled out as non-viable in cedh by many players, and that the length and pervasiveness of that rhetoric has been hurtful to those of us who do play it. It's a sore spot for us, and having kaalia being the only one marked as Kaalia(?), as well as singled out as "normally just high power" despite other off-meta decks being there was reopening a scabbed over wound. I know that you didn't mean your statements in any way as gatekeeping as others have, and in fact, it's not really your actions/words that are wrong. It was just poking a pressure point in an oft brushed aside community in cedh that has seen unnecessary hate everywhere I've gone. As in, I played kroxa and kunoros (a worse deck by a bit. Trust me on that, I've done my work in playing and creating both decks), and that still turned way fewer heads than when I switched back to kaalia.

[@MehrGills]

Sorry for the essay lmao. I have a lot of thoughts on the subject. I do appreciate your comments about why you chose rogsi over Blue Farm, tho, and overall, it was a great vid

[@pbailed8007]

Combo 😴 I put these two or three card combinations together and I win the game 😴

[@Tageintagaus]

Man, I wish they would ban 2 card combos and the power nine along with higher net rocks...

[@hodlsage8968]

I am not sure how you could even play a tournament in EDH ( Note cEDH is high power EDH until you get your own ban list ). A 4-player format is in no way, shape, or form a good setup for a competition. How do you stop King Making or the buddy system l, where 8 guys enter and make a deal to push someone to the top based on wins and then they splits the pot. It's just silly. Get your own ban list, then play 1 v 1, you are welcome.

[@jasonmccrory]

If you stopped winning Black Lotus in Vintage, you'd have more time to dedicate to winning cEDH tournaments. Priorities! 🙃 🪷

[@BoshNRoll]

Those only give out Timetwisters though 😒

[@jasonmccrory]

😞