Under Xi China transformed from authoritarian to totalitarian: Francis Fukuyama

[@markbohm1525]

Good job The Print on investing time and effort into exposing people in India to different voices of reason. I've read Fukuyama's work and while I'm not fully convinced with the validity of weight he places on liberal democracy in the long term, on regular political matters he provides very balanced views. The major problem in India at the moment is that the majority of those who speak waste their time in name calling and on useless debates on 'left', 'right', etc. The focus should be on core issues such as education, healthcare, food and nutrition, infrastructure. But Indians have been distracted away from meaningful discussions on these core issues thanks to the heavy propaganda from both sides. This popular ignorance and distraction will be the reason for nation's undoing.

[@yavagalsomu]

When would you stop spreading misinformation and get a proper education. Are you supporting the persecution of the minorities in Pakistan? What kind of person will have a problem with granting them Indian citizenship.

[@ashishpandey430]

Kudos to The Print for bringing scholars like Fukuyama; I may not agree with Fukumaya's observations but it is important to engage in discussions with scholars. I hope though that The Print also enages with public intellectuals like Gurumurthy, G Raghu etc to have wider perspectives.

[@mhhocane3513]

He was speaking everything that's considered anti national in sanghistan , so we disagree with him.

[@sankalp6872]

@@mhhocane3513 There is no SANGHISTAN. In many newer BJP conquests, RSS does not even have any significant presence. The One Hindu has become way too powerful hence the Non-Hindus are understandably sulking.

[@pandugeet]

Sanghi andh bhakts will obviously not agree to reality

[@sankalp6872]

@@pandugeet Chamchas with their usual demeanor. Clueless idiots do not understand that people prefer the reality. This reality does not involve blind darbari of one family or Muslim appeasement.

[@prashanthb6521]

Please Please, dont classify Gurumurthy as intellectual. He might put forth couple of interesting points but in no way his ideas are up there with India's best of the best talents. He is not at all a erudite fellow ! He is only popular because he is religious along with knowing a bit of accountancy and economics.

[@burung81]

F.Fukuyama : The end of history, all countries will be liberal democracy because this is the only way to prosper. China: Hold my beer..

[@nizicike759]

all country? Fukuyama's country invade Iraq ,Iraq now is most poor country on earth ,so ,If democracy is so great ,why they invade ?

[@akram123uk]

There is no democracy in this world, it's all hypocrisy, and most powerful few are ruling the world,

[@prashanthb6521]

China just has money, not genuine development.

[@angtasp3640]

Burung81 I think Fukuyama Sama was talking about economic liberalism

[@mubashirwani9287]

Read Clashes of Civilizations by samuel huginlton.

[@sankalp6872]

CAA does not do any disservice to Muslims. India gives all its citizens dignity and with CAA it is extending that dignity to harassed minorities from elsewhere.

[@pandugeet]

Sanghi spotted

[@pandugeet]

@जय हिंद Hahaha, lonely my foot...india has become lonely because of The BJP government and sanghis like you who are idiots.

[@prithusharma8044]

Guptaji didn't even bother to correct him when he said people were disenfranchised. That's just wrong.

[@Gary-wp1wt]

Prithu Sharma HE S A TYPICAL LIBRANDU...

[@prithusharma8044]

@@Gary-wp1wt let us not indulge in name calling and assigning motives, it takes away from the issue at hand.

[@atuldua875]

Mr. Fukuyama lost his way and Shekhar you did not correct him Sad

[@NarendraKv]

Francis knows India from Washington Post. His direct knowledge of India appears distant. I think it is stupid for a mainstream, intelligent Indian media to invite such persons as experts. Ask them on their core expertise, Mr. Gupta. Dont waste everyone's time asking people questions on issues they know little about.

[@lalluchettan]

The strangeness of your comment astounds me! That Fukuyama (an outsider) cannot hold an opinion about India! The problem about the Indian Right is their poverty of thought and intellectual rigour.

[@pandugeet]

Andh bhakts uncle... you will continue to live in denial with your sanghi beliefs

[@lalluchettan]

@@nisachar00 Jahil hi rahega tu

[@pandugeet]

@@nisachar00 hahaha sanghi logo ki language se pata chal jaata hai ki andh bhakt hai ki nahi

[@pandugeet]

@@nisachar00 nahi bhai teri andh bhakti and anpad behaviour se pata chala

[@rawindramehendaley6047]

Surprised that the comment of the guest about disenfranchisement of Muslims was not corrected. My understanding is that no one is being disenfranchised. All that the CAA does is that it fast tracks citizenship of a select group of non-citizens. Such misunderstandings should not be allowed to go unclarified.

[@appukuttanj]

@gener8enigma Sarcasm rules!!🤣

[@ashishpandey430]

Liberals need to develop better theoretical frameworks to understand Indian society and culture. The typical western frameworks based on the theory of power struggle and class conflicts do not apply on Indian society. Unfortunately people who value Indian culture and wisdom and so called liberals and some of them are perhaps genuinely concerned about the evils in Indian society have not developed suitable and grounded frameworks to understand the Indian society.

[@ashishpandey430]

@anonymous opinions you mean to say that there is no real center-left but Indian political mind or the predominant political mind is right to the center?

[@lalluchettan]

Really?! Or is it the other way around? That those who believe that they're 'steeped in Indian culture and wisdom' do not understand what universal rights are. To forget that we're a deeply divided society in terms of caste is a very convenient way to forget what divides our society.

[@ashishpandey430]

@@lalluchettan ji, after acknowledging the division we need to also look at the integral unity and how British rule exaggerated the caste system for their benefits. This divisive narrative started with the work work of Lord Risley. But so many Indian intellectuals are so occupied in taking forward that narrative which is called atrocity literature that they just do not pay attention to the stories about empowerment and integrating forces. Just focusing on division and discounting the integrating positive forces and stories of the success of the so called lowers caste is also very convenient and unfortunate.

[@pandugeet]

Kuch bhi

[@lalluchettan]

@@ashishpandey430 If you call caste as an exaggeration of the British is extreme naivety. Yes, the British mistakenly equated their class system to the caste system. Yes, there was mobility within castes. But, the Gupta period, in a strange way, defined caste within marriage -- that marriages within castes were the ideal. Interbreeding dipped during the Gupta period. In independent India, the reservation policy was a step in the right direction to right the wrongs of a thousand years of caste oppression. But I believe strongly that we must apologise collectively to what we have done to the oppressed within Indian society.

[@sreekumarpai6665]

Appreciate The Print in holding this interview.

[@robcameron9096]

Francis Fukuyama fails to understand that China's governance model has important advantages over liberal democracy. To classify China as authoritarian misses the underlying meritocratic and democratic structure of the ruling party. U.S. and many other liberal democracies are failing by succumbing to leaders who go too far in taking advantage of populist and nationalist sentiments. Modi has the opportunity and ability to chart an independent path. But an anti-China path will doom India to perpetual third-world status. China has no interest in territorial wars, but will change the world and lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty with the belt-and-road initiative. India has the opportunity to work with China and provide an important counter-balance to China within the region or to take the path of isolationism.

[@anmoldixit7328]

"Citizenship law has disenfranchised Indian Muslims." Didn't expect this from Francis Fukuyama.

[@chethansagar]

The top quality cohort of The Print watchers (we’re no readers if we consume video editorials - it’s way better for me) Anyway, I digress. The ability to appreciate and LISTEN even though most seem to disagree with Fukuyama is amazing to see. Looking inward from inside is hard as an Indian. We need to listen to feedback and not get defensive. #NoDisrecpect

[@prashanthb6521]

Totally agree. We Indians are lacking so much and we dream of becoming superpower !!!

[@chandrakantbanyanavar]

He is talking like someone has put words in his mouth, this is just my opinion.

[@deepakborkar2583]

China can develop parity with India if it models itself as a democratic country &give ethnic groups in China the same freedom as they enjoy in India

[@reubenpapang5803]

Parity? They are about to be the richest nation on earth, lifting 850 million out of poverty. Half of our population is BPL. We're still dreaming of 5 trillion economy 😂

[@ex0duzz]

Why would china want parity with india when china is ahead of india in every single thing that matters? India is the one trying to follow china's footsteps, while china doesn't care to look back and only look at usa and west.

[@Rohit-ne2el]

To everyone accusing Shekhar gupta of not correcting him---the answer is it was an interview.In the whole interview shekhar ji just asked questions and the fukayama gave answer though u may find it distorted,i do, but that doesnt mean how S.G interviewd him is wrong

[@mayureshtamhane1809]

"A lot of Muslims who thought they were citizens of India are disenfranchised" - This is your guests view of the changes in citizen law which is flawed at the very basic level. I expect an eminent journalist like you to atleast educate the foreigners about such misunderstandings that are a result of rightist Western media false propaganda. I may disagree with the establishment or government but tolerating such things only fortify the false propaganda.

[@dolamj]

Such a good interview...I was only listening to cut the clutter... Now this series for sure

[@helsreach001]

Librarals is appreciated by only Librarals so I don't take seriously ,they are who once praise China and making good future claims But listen those conservative and centralist who describe China from beginning and what they predicted is happening right now ,this stupid come on screen and telling things that are actually told by many strategic thinker 20 yr ago .Still they are corner by Libraral media .

[@helsreach001]

@gener8enigma xi jinping also give grand welcome to modi in Beijing , that doesn't mean everything ok, that posture . Covering real intent .modi is not taking lessons from manmohan ,like manmohan is know handling Pak is easier .he close to Seattle boundaries but 26/11 happened. Even George Fernandez openly say China is no. 1 enemy not Pak .

[@reardelt]

India's military is way behind China.

[@jayendrajay1706]

India has the Geographical Advantage.

[@reardelt]

@@jayendrajay1706 is that an excuse to remain poor and backward?

[@lullaby205]

@@reardelt better a slow and sustainable developing democracy than an authoritarian regime with no individual rights

[@freakingbeast9509]

@@lullaby205 Who told you china doesn't have any human rights Just google Beijing and shanghai, you will see the quality of life people enjoy there

[@lullaby205]

@@freakingbeast9509 the irony of being told to "Google" Beijing and Shanghai 😆. Indoctrined since birth, aren't you guys?

[@anupsinghkr]

Shekher SIR, have been following you since I was studying in class X. this interview seems stage managed while conclusion. you should have clarified about NRC at least. we are more aware of our own national identity and it's okay to listen however listening to false feed is not good. you ought to have clarified, we have been a liberal society since time immortal even under fragmented monarchy... disappointed to say the least .

[@reardelt]

So what? It is still growing at 6%.

[@harshgupta1999]

12% to 6 similar has happened to india

[@reardelt]

@@harshgupta1999 china has a high gdp per capita and is still able to maintain 6% growth. India is poor and is stuck at 6% growth

[@niyatishetty2623]

We can see Xi's handling of uighars muslims..it explains how totalitarian he is ! India under Narendra Modi hasn't sold our country n it's handling of international affairs unlike Nepal n sri Lanka..in these times instead of backing our government n army against Chinese aggression u r again critising our government with the same anti Modi narrative.. it's about supporting the country not Modi.

[@pandugeet]

Who said indian government is saintly, sanghis and andh bhakts will keep praising the failure of the government and India

[@reubenpapang5803]

Modi boasts so much and does so little, he's also repressing Muslims in India. And the economy is gone for a six. He gave up Galwan without a fight

[@jayantakarmakar8745]

@@reubenpapang5803 gave up galwan ? do you have any source !

[@reubenpapang5803]

@@jayantakarmakar8745 Business Standard and hindustan times

[@jayantakarmakar8745]

@@reubenpapang5803 so after surfing business standard and Hindustan times i didn't find any article which said as of 18/07/2020 we lost galwan valley . Do provide the link

[@sudarshanjahagirdar1978]

CAA disenfranchised Muslims....sorry you wrong sir.

[@chocolateplease718]

I agree with you bro.

[@KUNALKUMAR-df7gs]

Sir the Word Narrative has been used in one of the Print's video ,won't you censor it ? :-p

[@RmBism]

Why didn't you care to correct him when he said disenfranchisement of INDIAN Muslims!! thats completely wrong!! Now even if you release a video later saying i should have done that, but a lot of people would be who randomly clicked this video from the recommendations and won't find your clarification video!! I don't get this, why is it so so hard for people to understand that CAA doesn't affect Indian Muslims (even after reading the document) WHY?? May be i don't know something, please educate me!!

[@rajiv7226]

Disappointed. Have enjoyed mist of the videos..This is my least favourite. .Many distortion of facts and seems SG got carried away with his guests observation. SHAME

[@liechinmannorman5140]

Bitter medicine is always not welcome.

[@rk2726]

Sir pls do a video or a series on what are the overall opportunities(defence,diplomatic,biz etcetra) and threats(in this scenario of global threats as border issues,pandemics).what is your thought on areas where entrepreneurship can bloom and score higher on indicators(both economic and social) .

[@himanshusaini5668]

Surprised to see “How misinformed gentleman is on CAA”

[@yavagalsomu]

@gener8enigma Are you supporting the persecution of the minorities in Pakistan? What kind of person will have a problem with granting them Indian citizenship.

[@shubhamkalkal8331]

Appreciate your Journalism sir..Dont you think India should take Balochistan issue really seriously to help them become Independent country.. This will have a huge impact on Pakistan and China as their gwadar port will be in serious threat.. Plus Baloch being so frustrated with pak and now china... It will play a strategic point for India ➕ India can look for transportation to afgan and to EU also... So what is it that is still making India not to utter anything in this regard.

[@kunalpriyadarshi345]

Fukuyama has converged to what Samuel Huntington wrote 30 years ago.

[@bestalwaysofall]

China's expansionist strategy is not economically sustainable. This is similar to British empire which also was not feasible and became costly after the most costly metals like gold have been taken away from India. Similarly occupied territories like Tibet are totally uneconomical and would only prove to be a drain on the exchequer. Best thing is to have a Tibet which is totally independent and if at all with close relationship with India. Tibetan people know how to lead life in the hostile climates and mountainous regions and any attempt to radically change lifestyle would only put Tibet in jeopardy.

[@SeshadriVyas]

Francis Fukuyama suffers from the same problem that plagues all liberal thinkers. All minorities are equal, but some minorities are more equal. India welcomed the Dalai Lama when and has been pushing back against Chinese attempts to dictate the order. This is not a recent event, but decades old. If that is not being tolerant to minorities then what is? Yet India's still gets tagged as a country that mistreats minorities. India has challenges. But what makes him speak of religious intolerance as the biggest vice in the country? We don't have full freedom of expression, our bureaucracy is holding us back, we don't have enough sharp public intellectuals our economic system still has socialist era hangovers. And yet, Fukuyama thinks, that minority treatment is the biggest thing holding India back? Dude, get some coffee and pontificate elsewhere. Your thoughts reek of a holier than thou attitude.

[@shirishwagh9717]

Same about India

[@natind1803]

it is good to have a different view point and this interview is appreciated and the overall interview is good, while the timidity and the lack of courage is disappointing.

[@rahulmn5908]

Aa Gaya aur ek "expert" India ko religious freedom and liberalism pe gyaan dene.

[@natind1803]

quite surprising, why did the Uighur muslim issue not brought up, while you did bring Turkey and other countries

[@ksw7259]

He should remember history.

[@najialqhfa7231]

I believe in chinese democracy, the freedom not to go hungry, the freedom to have security, hospital, shelter, school and u name it, what I don't believe electing every 4,5 years brain dead leader, which one you believe?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@0810Sunil]

His knowledge about india is shallow..so I discount rest of his opinion. At heart even shekhar is modi hater.😉

[@sdb3607]

Racial discrimination is the main issue in India where the Northeastern people are discriminated on the bases of their looks.

[@VineetMenon1]

Fukuyama seems to be influenced by BBC and NYT in forming his opinion on Modi and India's new approach to her internal problems. He talks about Muslim disenfranchment and estragement when there has been no change of status in the rights and responsibilities of Indian Muslims as far as legislation is concerned.

[@rekhaagarwal73]

Bharat need to aggressively pursue narrative which is country centric . Muslims need to be educated to be भारतीय first and Muslims second

[@rajeshsurpur]

I think you should interview the people who knows about India more. Really. Wast of my time to seeing this video.. Sir. Pleas focus on how to move economy and connect people with some solutions.. This is my view & There are many Indians intellectuals people are there in every field. Please conduct interview with them...

[@YuvrajSingh-ix2rb]

What an informative interview !

Even his name if fake half white half yellow name. Do not teach India about multi liberalism. We created it and democrazy was created in India.

[@JavedKhan-vt2gj]

The print is doing divine service in journalism standing like a North Pole star amid darkness a

[@vikaskumar9999]

Muslims can never appreciate their criticism. Islam is a filth , turkey is a symptom problem lies in unholy Koran the terrorist manual....

[@yathish1983]

He has started preaching ... So sad

[@najialqhfa7231]

I believe strongly the Chinese system is the correction dongrouse world we live in, may Allah bless our planet with more great leader like xi jinping.

[@Priyank-wo4gy]

cabahar port iran wale project par the hindu ne fake news chalya!

[@pandugeet]

Abbey sanghi, real news hai

[@Priyank-wo4gy]

@@pandugeet abe communist, iran govt ne khud confirm kiya ki fake news h! vaise bhi sekhar guota khuch din phle kaha tha ki fake news se sarkar ko girana h!

[@pandugeet]

@@Priyank-wo4gy Arey anpad sanghi, reliable news dekh...republick dekhle excited hona band kar

[@Priyank-wo4gy]

@@pandugeet the hindu communist cheanal ne bhi aaj apne ko sudhara h! cabhar me india sirf port lar kaam kr rha h, track par ni! kuch din phle sekhr gupta ne kha h ki fake news faila kar 2024 me sarkar girayenge

@@Priyank-wo4gy abe modi ke chutiya stop glorifying modi

[@krishnakatikitala]

Modi's Power comes from communalism

[@216dark2]

Now, in 2024 we all know Fukuyama is just a bad joke.

[@ajoshi0217]

Guptaji you should have corrected mia conception about nrc caa Looks deliberate not to correct it The moment you did not did it i stopped watching this...

[@sukumarthothathiri981]

I don't think any others have the right to talk about tolerance in India. no other place in the world the kind of tolerance we are having. Whatever is projected as intolerance is only by the biased media and the so called intellectuals who are not getting The Perks under this government what they used to get previously so those selfish people are portraying the wrong picture about India. and Shekhar you are not contradicting or correcting him because you are also anti Modi

[@pandugeet]

1.75X

[@SudeepMukherjee]

'Muslims disenfranchised' by Citizenship Law!!! In which alternate universe?

[@btarunr1]

Came for thoughts on India-China situation; 2/3rds of the video ends up being amorphous Modi-bashing.

[@prashanthb6521]

Rightly so ! Bad governance has brought us here.

[@kartikaytiwari7387]

@@prashanthb6521 Where? at place where we get questioned for building infrastructure which should have been built years ago?

[@suppiahmurugesan8343]

Professor Fukuyama is either ill-informed, selectively ignorant or both about the objectives of the CAA. It is shameful for Mr Gupta, as an Indian, not to respectfully correct Fukuyama on his misconceived notion on CAA. Indian Muslims are not disenfranchised under the Act.

[@mayankpaneri1295]

SG call Fukuyama's nemesis Samuel P Huntington.

[@KM-ff2gm]

Ah this is stupid. Ok regarding CAA NRC...answer this... We have about 1 million+ people illegally entered into India majority Muslims. How in the universe you will send them back to their home country? What is so important for them to keep in India. The problem is there...everyone knows it....if you don't like this solution...go and suggest better one.

[@IndroneelMukerji]

Fukuyama hovers. He is clearly no India expert.

[@Xuhaib26]

Shekar batting for modi again

[@zubaralhadeed]

People in power do not care how you categorise them they will do whatever it takes to get power and then maintain it.

[@AJ-nn1kr]

Very good interview Mr Sekar

[@ashokkumartripathi6836]

It seems that a lot has been cut , yet nice to see Mr Fukuyama.

[@vishalsingh3753]

Great intellect not a good geo strategist

[@mubashirwani9287]

SG people are learned about Fascism have them too.you are too liberal to caught something.

[@ravikygo6192]

Don't make sense, talking about Chinese military and all of a sudden changing to Indian religions minorities, he doesn't know what he is talking about. Modi make not be doing everything right, but he doing good to India, across the political lines, they should love India first and politics next. Any religion is better off in India . Please don't public this one sided, stupid interview, was he prompted or edited to talk like this?

[@jayaramanganapathi9385]

Good insights

[@preetamdevanga5180]

Accepting reality doesn't make us weak but will strengthen us against evil powers But people still defend bjp sad reality of india today

[@bishalbhattarai9806]

Nonsense

[@giacomocapodellago3246]

hahahaha? This site is a joke.

[@yz233]

F.FUKUYAMA has been wrong and wrong for many times, he is really shameless to speak here.

[@DP-wi9tr]

Clearly the guy has no clue about anything. Not sure why he is being given such a podium

[@sp2925]

This was such a waste of everyone's valuable time.