Underappreciated Historical Weapons: THE GAUNTLET SWORD / Pata

[@XZenon]

"All those cool weapons you thought you invented in your head but have actually already been made and are just uncommon", volume XIV

[@cristian-ionutapostol8018]

@This Dude This did catch on, just not outside of india.

[@krustykrabemployeepatricks3709]

Volune XIV of what? (Sorry for being uncultured )

[@fuckinantipope5511]

@@krustykrabemployeepatricks3709 his comment was the title

[@Bubbaprime04]

See if you can find a real hidden blade from Assassin‘s creed

[@dwagonrider8673]

A cod peice, but a fucking halberd

[@TapDog96]

This takes "the sword is an extension of your arm" to a whole new level...

[@glassofwater281]

😆

[@LinardsZ]

Shad should have made 2 of them because dual wielding gaunlet swords is a lot easyer then wielding two normal swords.

[@Dunge0n]

He who lives by the sword, *B E C O M E S T H E S W O R D*

[@jello788]

White Lotus guy from Avatar

[@D00DM00D]

Imagine people without an arm using this

[@JinKee]

"Hand protection is always an issue, especially if you want to finger the guard." DM: The guard is surprised, but enthusiastic.

[@Wyzai]

Is there a difference between a male and a female guard in this case?

[@Cherubim666999]

that made me spit my whiskey

[@blitzidious9635]

@@Wyzai Don't think so.

[@flyboymike111357]

@@Wyzai You're going to want to have some soap and water close by if you finger a bum.

[@theomega7project326]

@@flyboymike111357 What if you aren't fingering the bum for the man?

[@taurock9689]

I love how the Gauntlet sword is technically popular, but only when its wielder replaces a missing arm with one of these

[@entropy7705]

Talon from league of legends has a silly looking kind of katar/pata looking weapon

[@maurixe2724]

that would be difficult to attach to a damaged arm tho, just imagine any medieval method to attach a sword to an arm whitout stabbing the person whit a huge rod going inside the arm lol

[@GrandDukeMushroom]

@@maurixe2724 First thing that came to my mind lol

[@Chaotic-warp]

@@maurixe2724 almost round gauntlet maybe, with a steel part and a leather/thick cloth part and a belt used to tighten the leather/cloth. The steel frame goes inside the linen/cloth to make it even more attached. Basically you attach it to your whole forehand because you lost your arm.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Jamie Lancaster could have used one. Anything than a useless fake hand.

[@The_Butler_Did_It]

"Sheila...call the cops, he's doing weird stuff in the garden again"

[@benher6934]

Always lookibf for this comment. ?💓

[@dwagonrider8673]

That sounds like something caboose from Res vs. Blue would say

[@Likexner]

These "jokes" are so unfunny. The premise is bad. Who calls the cops on someone wielding a sword in their own garden?

[@The_Butler_Did_It]

@@Likexner The 613 "likes" on my comment would tend to disagree with you.

[@Likexner]

@@The_Butler_Did_It I know, and i disagree with them. Im just honestly surprised anyone finds that funny.

[@VK2532]

It was actually used in the battlefield by kings to give the middle finger to other kings, they needed something big to show it.

[@liegeparadox2624]

I’m stealing this

[@asassin0735]

I love this comment

[@John2r1]

Funny but it was actually used with a shield and used as a thrusting weapon primarily. So the Patta wasn't a defensive weapon the shield was the defense the patta was simply used to gun punch , punch or stab , stab with not thought given to what if you lose your shield lol.

[@capibaradeluxe9193]

this is true

[@capibaradeluxe9193]

@@John2r1 No, you are factually wrong.

[@sevenproxies4255]

What Jaime Lannister should've used after he lost his hand.

[@marssalvador1669]

Sorry buddy i didnt know we have a same comment

[@matthewcrosbie7430]

Would have been difficult to affix the gauntlet/sword to his stump and maintain an ability to exert force without it possibly falling off.

[@matthewcrosbie7430]

Cause it fuctions kind of like a really long Katar, there's a grip for your hand.

[@beautifulmeeses]

@@matthewcrosbie7430 um... It's more of a joke than anything.

[@woodlefoof2]

​@@matthewcrosbie7430 ever heard of a strap? youre making things for a wealthy man, a well respected man, i think they might be able to get their hands on a leather belt, maybe even 2 if he is willing to pay enough. they gave him a golden hand that doesnt seem to fall off, im sure he could get a sword or even some armor that has a sword attached to the end of it.

[@marsbitegaming]

“That is meek, he has knives for hands”

[@rollochairbreaker230]

Hey man, we're gonna jump on that humongous spaceship, wanna come?

[@TheSquigy]

How does he hug his children? He cannot. He must give them kisses!

[@wet0wl]

*Insert Meek knife dance that no one talks about*

[@gggg-hq4td]

@@TheSquigy well, he could, he has to be very careful, but if he touches them with only the flat side

[@TheSquigy]

@@gggg-hq4td I was making an obscure reference to a KZbin channel that I no longer support. It was a let's play channel and the guy was making fun of these bright design of the Lionel's in the original legend of Zelda game where it looks like they have swords for hands

[@komeresiegemaker502]

That takes the one finger salute to a whole new level.

[@darkpixel1128]

imagine getting the finger with that, i would not mess with that guy.

[@lillithyukiutacrow2532]

Komere Siegemaker flip someone the bird with this you might actually stab a bird

[@tactechchannel7960]

How to use gauntlet sword Step 1: Extend arm Step 2: Spin in circle(continually) Step 3: Scream like a maniac Step 4: Pray Repeat until success.

[@theralphnater]

TacTech Channel or just swing it from atop a horse with great force. Heads will roll.

[@darthvalar4377]

Yup, especially the head of your own horse ...

[@eddieb8054]

LEEEEEEROYYYYY JENKKKKKKINNNSSSSSS!!!!

[@Heriarka]

In other words Spin to win

[@evilbetty9423]

Step 5: Get dizzy Step 6: Fall down Step 7: Get stabbed a lot.

[@trevortimm7816]

the sword is an extension of one's arm India: challenge accepted

[@Renwoxing13]

Wrist plays such an important role in increasing maneuverability, reach, and technique!

[@b.m.5068]

@@Renwoxing13 locking wrist can make strikes more powerful as well.

[@jameslabas7589]

No they just read it wrong

[@omikronweapon]

just Dhalsim it at that point.

[@mercurial3188]

Hey shad, love from India. I discovered ypur channel quite recently. Having some knowledge of the patta, i can assure you that its function is quite different to what you considered. The patta or Dandpatta has a very flexible blade, which allows it to be used against a multitude of enemies. It also has a longer reach of four feet or more. It is mostly used in conjunction with a shield and requires a string of motions which increase the speed of the blade with each swing. With practise, it has been observed that the edge of the patta can surpaas the speed of sound. It still packs precision though. Another thing is that one cannot reach the wielder due to a continuous flurry of blows. This intensive movement caused tremendous strain on the wrist and that is why the gauntlet was introduced. Still, i have a lot of respect that you attempted to analyse the blade. In the matter of convenience, the patta was flexible enough to be tied on your waist like a belt and thats how it was carried. The name of the blade comes from this as well, as 'Patta' simply means 'Belt' in Marathi, the language used in the state where this weapon was developed

[@davehood2667]

There were several varieties, you describe one of the less common ones by all accounts. Though it's possible they were just less durable than the more rigid ones, hence a lack of surviving examples. Also possible that the more rigid variants were due to Islamic influence, as many of the the rigid bladed examples have Shiite livery.

[@mercurial3188]

@@davehood2667 it might be possible. I have more knowledge of the maratha empire than the mughal. In the maratha empire, the one I specified was used. The variations may also be caused due to politics. The marathas specifically imported the metals used to make the patta whereas i have not read any such claims from the ones used in the mughal dynasty. However, in the western part of India, we refer to the patta as the flexible kind that i mentioned and there is little information regarding the pure gloved sword since it was rarely, if ever, used. The concept of the patta, as we understand it, was simply that it would act as a whip witha blade since full plate armour was not as prevalent in India as it was in Europe.

[@davehood2667]

@@mercurial3188 From what I can find, the flexible ones were indeed much earlier, whereas the rigid bladed examples in the New York Met and British Museums are very late period, and do appear to use imported steel, but a hard steel. I actually suspect a simpler explanation than you think; I can see some cavalier looking at a Maratha style patta, and thinking to himself, "with a hard blade one of those would be great for horseback fighting" and set out to try it, and they were just starting to catch on when the English came to town.

[@mercurial3188]

@@davehood2667 so i looked into it and it was indeed used in horse fighting. Apparently what you said was right but truly ineffective. When the patta was used on horseback, it was used armoured cavalry to curlt horse legs and such tactics to dismount riders. During the end periods, people started experimenting on it to try and make it better.

[@mercurial3188]

They tried hardening it, adding guns to it and the works. However, this all failed the purpose of the weapon. But since swordfighting went out of use thanks to the advent of guns, future pattas stayed on mostly as show pieces. Here is a link on how it was used. Its just a tradition now, though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4SZepubltx1hKc

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

Europe: creates sword and gauntlet Indians: I have a gauntlet, I have a sword, ugh, gauntlet sword

[@motazfawzi2504]

Pineapple pen!

[@himalayandiaries2125]

@@SawantSumeet dumbfuck Marathas was a Indian Hindu warrior class

[@cultofeyes7260]

@@himalayandiaries2125 what did he say?

[@wet0wl]

*NO!*

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

@@cultofeyes7260 from the looks of the replies, they probably said this was made by Maratha and not Indians, but Maratha are Indians.

[@AndrewArmstrong]

18:38 now there's a man who loves his job

[@buzdygan5488]

Shad uses DOUBLE ATTACK! It's super effective!

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

Andrew Armstrong It looks like an anime weapon. In fact, there was a weapon like that in Kill la Kill, it was like scissors or something

[@gregoryefs9898]

Metal gear rising

[@Qmedslol9000over]

Even better weapon idea: full body pata. Throw yourself at the enemy!

[@Christopher-eq1rn]

Quinton Medlin Even better better idea, full body pommel. End them rightly

[@Sidewinder84x]

Look up the character named Thibbledorf Pwent from the Forgotten Realms fantasy books. He wore spiky armor all over and just wanted to hug some goblins :)

[@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447]

End him rightly!

[@saber1epee0]

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[@Kartoffelkamm]

"I´m not a man, I´m a weapon in human form. Just unsheathe me, and point me at the enemy." - Hrongar from Skyrim.

[@kevin9218]

I've read dandpatta were used one in each hand generally by heavily armored maratha warriors. The attachment of the sword to the gauntlet allowed them to strike with more power in successive seemingly wreckless attacks without losing grip on the weapons while also being able to block heavy strikes from weapons like polearms, clubs or staves more effectively without having the blocking blade pushed back or knocked aside than a hand held sword. The inconvenient nature of donning the weapons suggests they were exclusively a battlefield implement and not carried for self defense.

[@Woodsy2575]

Solution: strap one to each arm and dual wield them like Baraka from Mortal Kombat

[@tiwapptya13]

That would easily make that person one of the more deadlier combatants on the battlefield

[@Arkume8Beltz]

Or Voldo from Soul Blade/Soul Calibur..

[@FireFox64000000]

Or the version of Deadpool we don't talk about

[@madalchemist3420]

@@Arkume8Beltz indeed but voldos weapon of choice is the katar

[@Arkume8Beltz]

@@madalchemist3420 Yep, is his estándar weapon, but you can choose the gauntlet sword, dual chakra, soul Blade, etc

[@Wolfphototech]

*It's simple* *Just unhook the sheath from belt and launch the sheath at your opponent and start the fight rightly .*

[@Wolfphototech]

*Thank you for all the 👍 likes .*

[@thehumanvacuum3413]

Dude, that's sounds leathal, if done correctly!

[@Wolfphototech]

@@thehumanvacuum3413 It is .

[@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879]

Basically like Blade's Blade Launcher? (Blade II, Weasley Snipes).

[@moonknightfan1444]

Maybe the sheath can have a small blade on it so if you can launch the sheath it can maybe stab someone

[@michaellaporte4951]

I appreciate how you always go to lengths like making replicas in order to get a hands on feel rather than just talking about everything from an abstract, academic view. It's nice to be able to get both the visual reference and the personal feedback. Though now I want to see a video on pata flourishes.

[@Tina06019]

Michael LaPorte I agree with you completely. Making (semi-functional) replicas, similar in concept to experimental archeology, gives the maker a whole new level of understanding. In making period clothing, I’ve learnt which characteristics are functional and which are decorative (and convey ‘status’). Some things are decorative, expensive, and ‘useless,’ but don’t impair function in a pinch/bad situation (wimples, parti-colour, dagging, expensive tablet-woven edges & applied trims, slashed&puffed sleeves) and others are downright dangerous (trains, hanging sleeves, poulains).

[@edwardjin6230]

his neighbors: why is there a man outside in his backyard with a castle and pointy things

[@pipogutierrezgarcia5996]

When you upgrade your hiden blade to much

[@johnapple6646]

Plan A: hidden blade Plan B:

[@gggg-hq4td]

@@johnapple6646 lightly concealed blade

[@VoidedGarvish]

@@gggg-hq4td “it’s just a really long fork I’m not threatening I promise”

[@HeLLBoy950]

@@VoidedGarvish Yeah, you will know it's a fork or a sword when you will get a hit by spinning gauntlet sword user

[@silversage7043]

This is a weapon that needs more recognition! glad to see it here!

[@Kartoffelkamm]

Ever seen MegaMan: NT Warrior? Every time they use any kind of swords, they use them like this. Well, except for that one type that´s actually three types of swords, but there´s still 6 different variations of swords used like the Pata that I can name from the top of my head.

[@JugglingAddict]

Such as? I'm curious and I want to learn more ,(about) Indian Weaponry and martial arts ahg I can't get enough off it.

[@theblancmange1265]

The ampute version was used by the Gatekeeper in the Shivering Isles dlc for TES IV Oblivion.

[@theralphnater]

They're not gauntlet "swords" per say, but I can think of several gauntlet daggers n such in games. Some models even have a small buckler for better protection.

[@amitabhakusari2304]

As one wise bald man said, 'Context' is very important when dealing with historical weapons and one that can address almost all of the problems you state with the Pata. First, about guarding- You almost always use Indian swords like tulwar, katar, pata with an Indian buckler (dhal) which you would typically wear on belt, or back. So, you wouldn't need to block hits on the exposed side. In fact, you would be very well protected. Second, you have to see who is using it against whom, and when. During the 17th and 18th century, Marathas were in conflict with the Mughals and they did assymetric warfare, by ambushing the Mughal in territories they were familiar with. This was the age when almost everyone wore armour, which was mostly mail, and plated mail (steel plates welded to rivetted mail) [ Note that full plate armour could never be worn in the extreme heat and humidity of India] So, exposed areas to hit would be face, neck, hands and the leg. For this you need something that can damage mail, or cut/ slash the exposed areas. Also, Indian swords are heavier than European ones so bashing the swords against armour, could break links over time, and would not be an enjoyable experience for the enemy. This also, address the problems with carrying since the Marathas were the ones doing the ambushing on horses in places they were familiar with. You wouldn't need to draw it out when surprised as you would be the one doing the surprising. *So in short you could carry this on a horse, or transport it on carts (mobile troops always have caravans), and these were specialised weapons for mail* Hope, to see some of these mentioned in next episode.

[@vsm1456]

great comment, very insightful. the more I think about it the more I like this weapon

[@amitabhakusari2304]

Thanks, and I agree- Historical weapons are badass.

[@lordspider3958]

I imagine how that conversation went. "Hey buddy, love using your sword on horseback, but, hate dropping It?" "then I got the weapon for you!"

[@MrBottlecapBill]

Accept that every point you made could still be done with a regular sword and guantlet.......and not hinder your movements so horribly. It's a pointless weapon that can't be replaced by something easier and more cost effective in any situation.

[@lordsrednuas]

The context however also does help explain why it isn't more common. While it's limitations may be counteracted by the specific circumstances that saw it's development, it also points to it's limited superiority to those specific circumstances. Leaving it less desirable for anyone not in that situation on a reoccurring basis.

[@maxs-lz4pn]

just imagine someone with sword hands running at you, dual wielding. They'd be good on horseback especially with a specialized saddle

[@Snow_Leopard10]

This sword is used as horseback

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

10:30 "Especially if you want to finger the guard" No sexualizing guards Shad! They go through great lengths to keep people safe!

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

Neurofied Yamato Guard-chan feels violated

[@yeahmaybe1177]

Plot twist: Shad is Shadman.

[@kenobiwanobi889]

-Shad starts fingering the guard -Guard: "STOP! You violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence! Your stolen goods are now forfeit!"

[@JinKee]

14:05 "you actually have to uh push your hand in through it"

[@mauriceanderson5413]

This post was made by Autority gang

[@GonzoTehGreat]

Patta swords were used by Marathas who were known for their light melee cavalry, so it's possible these swords were specifically designed to cut and slash from horseback, which is why they're typically 3-4 feet long with a lack of wrist flexibility. This also explains why they're cumbersome to carry, as they would presumably be strapped to the horse until required and discarded if the rider was dismounted. 14:00 I don't think they were intended to be worn on the hip/back and "drawn". Instead, these were carried into battle as the primary weapon (as an alternative to a polearm, lance or spear) which renders most of your speculation moot. Similarly, Greatswords were used during the Renaissance and the Odachi was wielded by Samurai on the battlefield. Neither of those swords are easily carried or drawn either. *Metatron* mentions in one of his videos that swords varied so much in size, shape and function that they can be considered as a class of weapon (rather than a particular type), just like polearms.

[@VoltisArt]

Halfway through the video I started thinking horseback fighting solves most of the "problems" mentioned. This configuration is definitely not made for fancy swashbuckling.

[@roypeak3603]

Excellent points... I had similar thoughts while watching. He focused too much on European styles of combat to really consider alternative uses.

[@rishabhsharma6112]

These swords are not meant to be wielded when on horseback ,the weapon of choice on horseback was dhoop sword also called firangi sword because of the german blades used in their construction it was a 38 to 44 inch long sword straight edge This pata sword is an adaptation from katar dagger a H shaped grip effectively designed to be a stabbing weapon

[@marcussims8934]

I think the sword might be good for duel welding

[@deadmeme902]

Marcus Sims if it was a little shorter it could work with duel wielding

[@tealeaf3200]

This series is giving me SOOOOO many weapons to play with in my stories. Keep doing this! It's fun!

[@minorantagonist7090]

I think it would have been worth mentioning in the thought process to consider that it would be easy to master and use as a sword in the non-dominant hand, and would be very good for parrying because of both the gauntlet and the more efficient energy transfer. I think that it's worth exploring the kind of fighting styles it would enable in the fantasy setting

[@Real-Ninja-IV-XX]

if you look at the translation of kinetic energy from the handle to the hand on a standard sword design when thrusting, and then compare that to the design of a gauntlet sword, then the gauntlet sword is clearly the superior thrusting sword. That said i would say its ideally used paired with a shield so you can just basically hide behind your shield and poke with thrusts.

[@mr.j7444]

id say shield would be best but a gauntlet sword on the other hand would also cover the weakest points in its defensive capabilitys

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

I believe scholagladiatora said the pata primarily used rapier blades

[@Hobolishus123]

yeah however i feel like it would be better to use thrusting weapons in a standard sword design because the whole point (get it?) is to be stab through gaps in armor which i feel would be pretty hard to do with the gauntlet design if just used as a personal defense weapon against unarmored opponents then yes it is better for thrusting completely agree with the shield thing or maybe a parry dagger of some sort

[@bowwing333]

Better yet get two shorter ones with bucklers on the braces. Now you can defend and attack at the same time, boxer style.

[@biffman6]

My biggest problem with this weapon is that there is no pommel to unscrew to end the enemy rightly

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

Devin Wirgart If you have a prosthetic you do

[@fuz5567]

nice job reposting the exact comment from 9 months ago genius

[@danialzaman1438]

But this configuration makes you the pommel

[@praxton9238]

@@danialzaman1438 headbutt?

[@TheDarkestPaladin]

This weapon is weak

[@rtype112000]

In the full metal alchemist anime, Edward Elric often uses a weapon akin to the gauntlet sword, he turns the back of his prosthetic arm into a wide short sword, similar to a katar.

[@mikeman9090]

Correct

[@Lymerion137]

Also Velvet Crowe's weapon in Tales of Berseria

[@ktwpatterson1190]

Not to mention Proto-Man from MegaMan. The “energy swords" in those game tend to take a similar shape as a Pata.

[@edwardakioka870]

Gundam 00 also had a similar weapon wielded by the flagship mecha of the first season, Gundam Exia

[@matthewmuir8884]

Was that in both Fullmetal Alchemist anime? I ask because I've only seen Brotherhood.

[@palemoogle3049]

Willow is an amazing show. Im glad my family raised me on shows like that

[@zendikarisparkmage2938]

Yeah, a full-length gauntlet-sword is far too long to be practical for anything, but I think a shorter pata (basically just an upgraded punching dagger) could be awesome and still somewhat practical.

[@jeremybarrett3616]

Zendikari Sparkmage So you mean a Katar?

[@zendikarisparkmage2938]

With a thin enough blade and a bit of a handguard, yeah, that'd work.

[@genobreaker1054]

Short sword length, plus upgrade the gauntlet with more defense to serve like a shield, maybe with a small guard near the back to catch opponent's weapons.

[@genobreaker1054]

Short sword length, plus upgrade the gauntlet with more defense to serve like a shield, maybe with a small guard near the back to catch opponent's weapons.

[@thekaxmax]

Zendikari Sparkmage it's practical, but he's not using its actual style. It's used with a shield, and strikes are entirely different to what he's showing

[@aaronpulley7528]

Perhaps this wasn't meant to block, but to be paired with a shield instead?

[@petriew2018]

Always. Native Indian combat techniques pretty much never include the concept of parrying as known to europeans. the Pata specifically was also primarily a cavalry sword, oddly enough, so not really intended for close combat, more 'ride by' striking. very effective weapon for the users trained in the native techniques, which emphasized sweeping, fluid slashing attacks and a rather aggressive use of the shield for parrying and controlling your opponents weapon. For more western users trained to use the sword defensively as well as offensively, it has more than a few drawbacks.

[@gravedigger4450]

It could be ment for dual Welding

[@mattfick5502]

Something else to consider. I've seen Indian artwork of fighters carrying a katar as their offhand weapon. Pretty interesting combination

[@timbrwolf1121]

@@mattfick5502 That's what I was just thinking. Either a short sword or a buckler of some kind in the off hand

[@narrenitsuwaru8052]

Pata were usually paired with either a shield, sword, gauntlet, or another pata.

[@edro8826]

Wouldn't this weapon be practical for the GAME OF THRONES character JAIME LANASTER for his missing hand but he could use his left to put it on his forearm?

[@saber1epee0]

This. Yes. This. Give our man a Golden - Dragonglass Pata!!!

[@georgethompson913]

obsidian would be way too brittle

[@semiautothanoscar9612]

George Thompson We Would Make it a Valyrian Steel Pata

[@warbossguttz7407]

He could also be like Götz of the Iron Hand a German knight who lost his hand and replaced it with a mechanical hand one that could hold a sword

[@geranarthy2309]

It still surprises and impresses me that that man really did have a mechanical hand during his time.

[@treyvonervin745]

I remember the Pata being in one of my favorite Castlevania games, Castlevania: Curse of Darkness. There was a lot of awesome weapons in that game and I’ve always considered it a gem of the PS2 era.

[@HollyLiche]

I was literally coming to the comments to make this statement! Curse of darkness is the best. People complain the Innocent Devils are too weak, but they didn't understand the Brooch of Bonds. :D

[@robpalatchi7027]

"Alright recruits, today you get your patas. Don't good off with them, you're on guard duty."

[@kryptokoning3536]

I've never ever ever seen or heared about this sword before now. Thank you for your videos and being awesome! Greetings from The Netherlands

[@avichaid6021]

Technically you can say Edward Elric from FMA uses that kind of sword, sort of. He uses alchemy to transform his mechanical arm to a blade

[@JohnA...]

I had this idea as well, and was thinking that with a somewhat shorter blade like that it would be far more effective, possibly more so with one on both arms, paired with a shield/buckler, OR possibly with another short range way of grabbing the others weapons and having that advantage being in close.

[@The_Local]

Also in highschool dxd new issa uses it technically

[@maggintons]

Yeah but his arm is not designed to be used as a blade so it often does more harm than good.

[@blackout_ct1013]

This is basically what Optimus has in TFP

[@stinkyfartguyofficial]

Wondering if his blasters have a historical counterpart...

[@SupersuMC]

'How cool would it be to have a sword for an arm?' 'I'm pretty sure the idea is better than the reality...'" - Lord Garmadon and Lloyd Garmadon, _The LEGO Ninjago Movie_

[@FengLengshun]

What about as a replacement for a lost arm?

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

Or just damaged wrist. Good idea.

[@jordancollins3242]

yes (grabs coffe from table) aw I stabed me table because my hands a frickin sword

[@rickregina5053]

Accidentally shaking hands with the wrong hand becomes hilariously brutal.

[@LaggyKar]

They should give one of those to Jamie Lannister.

[@stormbringer2840]

I think it actually could be really effective if it was shorter . As a complementary blade .

[@Samagryn]

*sees Shad holding the arming sword in the hand with his pata* .... Quadruple wield?

[@mylji2276]

Samuel Raborn Shad Scissorhands

[@michaelantosch9888]

I imagine it would be really hard to put on and take off 2 gauntlet swords without help.

[@cobraglatiator]

that's what squires are for! ; )

[@mennograafmans1595]

cobraglatiator You mean kids ;)

[@toasterofdoom9629]

same difference

[@leonielson7138]

Warwick Davis was 19 when he starred in Willow. Also, Ash's chainsaw hand is the only other gauntlet sword I know of.

[@Docktavion]

40K have a couple similar weapons to these.a blade attached to the arm but leaving the fingers free.

[@ChaosExodus]

Yes, Willow gets a wonderful mention. Love that movie. Witchblade was a show that had the gauntlet sword, iirc.

[@johnwaldo4619]

Another TV show with a gauntlet sword was an episode of 'Lost In Space', in which Guy Williams (Zorro)

[@LordBaktor]

It's funny how that type of idea is quite prominent in Sci-Fi settings rather than Fantasy. I've seen many a futuristic gauntlet with an energy blade in that position (although they tend to be attached to the forearm and leave the fist free to move). The Protoss Zealots from Starcraft come to mind.

[@daltoncook209]

Lord Baktor similar with the energy sword in Halo

[@LordBaktor]

And not sci-fi, but Raziel's sword in Soul Reaver also ignores his hand orientation and extends straight from the forearm.

[@twincast2005]

So many examples I know well, yet couldn't put my finger on. 😅

[@jack89harrier]

from games, i remember protoss - yes raziel - yup also - kassadin

[@soupordave]

There are plenty of bladed fist weapons in Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft so someone at Blizzard has recognized how cool they are!

[@QuantumLeapCosplay]

The more I get called "Legendary", the more proud I am to be a patron. xD

[@weniswarrior666]

A gauntlet energy sword might make up for some of the limitations in a more high tech setting. Outside of combat it'd just be gauntlet, the blade could be quickly and easily deployed, and it would probably be lighter which would make it less strenuous to use.

[@weniswarrior666]

@Myst- Sure, but at that point you're taking an issue with the science fiction trope of having energy-based melee weapons rather than the logic of that particular iteration of it. I mean I'm sure you could contrive some kind of reason for it if you wanted to. Going with the power armor idea, maybe they have sophisticated armor technology that reliably stops energy projectiles, but can be more easily penetrated by concentrated energy beams that can only really be generated in a small area, kind of like a plasma torch. Either that or maybe you have jedi-like psions that for whatever reason are able to channel their powers in such a way to augment their energy blades, but it doesn't work as well with projectile weapons.

[@murdomaclachlan]

Finally, a video on the Gauntlet Sword! I love this weapon! As an aspiring writer, I've intended on giving one of my main characters a gauntlet sword for a while, and I was hoping we'd get a video on it at some point. The other interesting thing to see would be the Gauntlet + Sword combo, where they fight with a gauntlet on one hand and a sword in the other. Also something I will be giving a major character.

[@iota-09]

Murdo Maclachlan same, it's a shame it's not used on games more often too in favor of simpler similar weapons like the qatar(and even that is rare) I feel like it would work very well in a soulslike game working as sword/rapier/caestus hybrid with extended trusting range but limited speed on slashes as a balancing factor(it would have more rangr than both, reaching the lenght of a washing pole or the shorter spears) The only thing I'd wonder is how to make it work with 2-handing... It's a weapon that imho REQUIRES a sidearm or shield, which is also why in a more generic-military influenced setting I'd be able to see only cavalry units using, as it has all the good sides of a spear and a sword, but with added negatives that make it hard to use un foot, plus you can hold reins while holding the weapon in your hand without much problems.

[@vanoven9205]

iota-09 actually it would be a pretty interesting idea for a video game, and in the case of a souls-like, i think you could just have it be like the pyromancy flame and not be able to use it with both hands. Another interesting idea would be if it worked as an additional piece of armor, like it pretty much is a gauntlet already, and you could have it increase your armor rating or defense stat by a bit. Or, if you feel like you're making it a bit overpowered in your game, you could use this as a downside: have it fill up both the weapon slot and the armor slot for your gauntlets!

[@iota-09]

Titan-Volt 101 that last bit requires quite some extra development just for one weapon, it probably would have to be a weapon category of it's own... Though now that you reminded me that the pyro flame can't be used in two habds(like the dark hand) that actually makes it far more viable, in fact, it would probably work EXACTLY like a dark hand, but with a+5% physical defense bonus when wielded to make up for the malus of not being able to 2hand it(no need to make it any more special, as the pyro flame as a bonus had that it's one of the best casting weapons in game and the dark hand it's just all around special with scaling and abilities) Another way would probably be to make it a dual-wield weapon like the various dual wields or something more special as the lionheart... I shoild have thought about that more, there are definitely ways to implement it in the game and make it cool, too bad we got our last dark souls game... Now we need for the next soulslike by fromsoft which will probably come out after sekiro(I'm going to bet on bloodborne 2 on ps5)

[@Thesaurus_Rex]

Yeah, I think that the Pata would probably work best alongside a shield, since, while it does have some serious offensive potential, it doesn't have the defensive potential that many other swords have. This could actually be a good candidate for pairing with a sturdy parrying dagger, depending on what kinds of weapons you would be facing. Come to think of it, a parrying dagger would also solve another problem with the Pata, in that a VERY close opponent (like, hugging distance) is pretty impossible to hit due to the limited range of movement. While it obviously would be better to just avoid getting so close to an opponent, having a parrying dagger that could be used in such close quarters situations (or in situations where one is taken by surprise and doesn't have their arm strapped into their Pata) could be valuable. I think.

[@brianmead7556]

Seeing Shad hold it out in advance guard immediately reminded me of rapier. It was also extremely common in India to just use a shield with swords.

[@brianmead7556]

Quick compared to something involved like setting up an HMG. Slow compared to just grabbing a shealthed talwar or pulling out a tucked dagger.

[@lol101lol101lol10199]

I could see a shorter Gauntlet Sword being an effective offhand weapon when dual wielding. Full range of movement isn't as useful on the side where you lack dexterity, precision and wrist-strength anyway, and the Pata - which relies less on those things - might be stronger in that situation (wether used to block, parry, cut or thrust).

[@mecurian485]

I see a lot of people made that connection. Shado! Make a shorter version!

[@DLC_PR016]

So hidden blades that are stuck.....

[@Metalio564]

Man this really reminds me of Edward Elric's makeshift weapon from Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. He transmutes his prosthetic arm to have an albeit smaller blade that's attached very similar to this

[@RedShazam]

The Full Metal Alchemist anime has Edward Elric use one, it’s really good, check it out

[@azazelreeds]

Edward doesn't have a gauntlet sword. He's just so good at punching people it becomes stabbing

[@kylerharris4246]

Jarius Reece- I mean I think turning your hand into a sword counts as using one of these

[@azazelreeds]

@@kylerharris4246 I was joking, but if we're gonna get technical he has more of a punching dagger than a full sword

[@GarrettCARROTZ]

@@azazelreeds yeah he mentioned a katar early in the video. I think Ed's weapon is more like that

[@gummostump4217]

Ed has a famously bad sense of taste, too, so I'm sure the fantastic but unwieldy pata would appeal to him.

[@MartinTowell]

The other issue with it is that there's no pommel so you can't end him rightly.

[@houayangthe3rd]

Martin Towell you are the pommel

[@adama9300]

Mind blown

[@Hobolishus123]

you detach the gauntlet part from the sword throw the gauntlet at them then half-sword them with the blade

[@amitabhakusari2304]

"Wait for an hour or two, I will detach this gauntlet. Now where is my blowtorch and the saw??"

[@PsylomeAlpha]

Martin Towell you are the pommel

[@Slayerlord0]

Found some interesting things from a brief Google search: Patas were often used with a shield, from horseback or dual wielded, and Southeast Asian swordsmanship uses stiff wrist movements, which you've shown fits the pata pretty well. Don't have much else to go with that, but I thought you might find it interesting.

[@greyrifterrellik5837]

One of my favorite games of all time actually has the main protagonist's weapon being a gauntlet sword; Tales of Berseria. In that game, the main protagonist Velvet Crowe uses a gauntlet sword, as well as various kicks, in combat.

[@nothisispatrick4644]

Thats a cool gauntlet sword but... WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS!?

[@adama9300]

This is interesting

[@Thraim.]

Don't give dragons swords. They are dangerous enough as is.

[@TheMagicRobot]

Dragons with gauntlet swords!

[@Tepid24]

Are you suggesting... Gauntlet Dragons?

[@aidenosewart721]

a dragon wearing gauntlet dragons wearing gauntlet swords.

[@Milennin]

Willow...? Ah, that movie with one of my favourite movie quotes of all time: *"I am the greatest swordsman who ever lived."* I remember it now.

[@captnwinkle]

"my moon and stars! Without you, I'm lost in darkness!" .. my stupid drunk ass always says that on one night stands and then next day they are in love and I don't even know their name!

[@Idazmi7]

What about a gauntlet short sword? I feel like a shorter blade would make it far more effective. Also, using a regular Pata in a rapier stance may offset some of it's defensive disadvantages.

[@theralphnater]

Idazmi7 the hooded katar is like what you're thinking about. Too bad he didn't mention those. And the patar are cavalry weapons so he's using it wrong in the first place. There's even a hooded dagger if you look far enough for gauntlet blades.

[@Idazmi7]

+theralphnater Thanks.

[@Valkbg]

Its kinda weird since I also thought it was a cavalry weapon even if I know far less than him about swords. Its too long and bulky to be used normally.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

Your comment makes me wonder why the Romans didn't make a gauntlet version of the Gladius!

[@serPomiz]

the roman fought in a combination of "extreme proudness" and "tecnical efficiency", which meant short swords, easy spear and big shields. aside from some "specialistic" weapon in determinated area during the campains, more esotic weapons like those were seen as extra weight. and there was always the coliseum, around where many remains of unusual weapon were unhearted

[@sworntothelight]

this blade combined with full arm armor to create a traditional boxing style defense for swords would be a great fantasy weapon for a brawler

[@NuwandaLunaDragon]

WOW, great idea

[@prestokrevlar]

"This episode of Shadiversity is brought to you by--" **press L** ""--Shadiversity."

[@tastytwixthefirst]

You are a fucking legend.

[@qhutt4865]

How do you discover something like this?

[@tigershark8867]

The Gauntlet Sword would be an amputee's favorite weapon.

[@johnygage1123]

kinda was in FMA

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

JohnyGage that's a bit less of a pata and more of a katar (qatar?). Also fma/fmab awesome shows

[@biohazard724]

Merl from seasons 2 and 3 of The Walking Dead agrees

[@jeffk464]

Jamie Lanister needs one of these.

[@Rakaziel]

Not really - a thrust would put all the pressure on the stump, which would be rather painful. An amputee would be served better with a hook or a cestus (axe gauntlet) or a morningstar

[@1973Louis]

What could be more awesome??!! A gun blade pata... Well it was cooler in my head.

[@thomascollins5622]

Yeah... Recoil would be a bitch, and so would aiming.

[@NobleS1236]

Thomas Collins Eh... aiming not so much of a problem. As for recoil... enjoy having a broken elbow.

[@arx3516]

And you onow what's cooler than a gun blade pata? Two gunblade patas, one for each hand! Mounted on power armor they would be awesome.

[@thomascollins5622]

Jesse Hills Depends on the caliber, and if you're steadying the shot or not. But, if you're doing that, you can't really make use of the blade effectively.

[@Immopimmo]

Well, there's at least one Katar I know of that has a pistol on each side so what you're suggesting is basically just a longer version. :)

[@Bakunawa7]

"Gauntlet sword" Me, laughing with Squallo's prosthetic hand sword...

[@tyberzann101]

Full Metal Alchemist has it kinda Edward turns his automail into one to fight

[@juuzousuzuya6962]

Kinda althou Edwards gauntlet Blade isnt nearly AS Long

[@nathanbouchard2586]

Mad martigin did not use it very proficiently. I remember being disappointed that didn't do enough with it. It got broken right away then he used it like a dagger for the final strike

[@ExhumedFromBed]

I've been waiting for this very video on this particular subject. Thank you for this video Sir Shad.

[@josiaharaki7310]

Quest for Camelot had the villain wielding a form of Gauntlet sword, but it had a weird steampunk thing going on where sword was fused to the guy's arm and spun.

[@SilverStripe82]

Fantastic video and a beautiful sword. Maybe will see it in Game of Thrones for Jamie.

[@ginge641]

SilverStripe82 That's actually a good idea. It'd certainly counterbalance the missing hand somewhat.

[@adamant8941]

SilverStripe82 Jesus Christ, that's good. We should just e-mail the creators and have them reshoot everything. It would be worth it.

[@P3x310]

My thoughts exactly. At first glance I actually thought it was a prosthetic hand for use on the battlefield, like a pirate hook for swordsmen.

[@elrikdarkstorm7911]

brilliant idea

[@09csr]

Thats such a cool idea. Rework his golden Lannister arm into a powerful Valyrian/dragonglass gauntlet sword.

[@TrueVartoc]

Well that's one way to give someone the finger.

[@zeromailss]

18:30 ah yes, your body might grow older but your heart should not

[@joethomas8464]

Once I, eventually, start playing D&D, I'll definitely make a character that wields one (or two) of these.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Great video Shad. Great to see all these weapons that would be perfect for fantasy, but almost never actually get seen.

[@theralphnater]

Matthew St. Cyr it's actually a fairly common thing to have seen in old India. Mainly because of it's cavalry origins. the blade was originally made for stabbing/chopping down through infantry chainmail. And not for swinging around in European styles.

[@matthewmuir8884]

theralphnater I meant in fantasy, but thanks; I was wandering what kind of units actually used them. My guess was that they were a bodyguard's weapon. Cavalry makes a lot more sense.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

Edward Scissorhands was actually a very rich knight who used this kind of weapon.

[@robertcarroll5427]

Willow!!!

[@atrep4585]

The *F I S T I N G S W O R D*

[@maxharter5716]

Totally underrated comment, mate.

[@ymj4256]

Fisting you said

[@beautifulmeeses]

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyu

[@owli-wankenobi3727]

Not sure if anybody has thought of it this way, but what if the gauntlet sword was a lightsaber? It would certainly look cool to have a lightsaber blade emanating from your fist and the extra reach you could get thanks to being able to fully extend your arm could be advantageous.

[@corvus1253]

14:22 Just shorten the blade. The one Shad is demonstrating with seems too long in my opinion... 15:47 Nevermind.

[@geraldstacy3658]

I agree. Maybe 2/3's to 1/2 the length.

[@blindliberty4478]

Oof

[@nicholashodges201]

This seems more like a dedicated dueling sword than a battle sword. It's impractically long, doesn't lend itself to quick readiness and requires to much space to use. Sort of like a rapier from the golden age of dueling

[@AthenisOculi]

Thats why you should watch the full video before commenting

[@swordwrath5492]

In the movie quest for camalot the main villian makes a gauntlet sword kind of. He fuses excalaber with his own arm. I also feel like this was ment to either dual weild or with a shield

[@alemirdikson]

I've heard rumor that Halo's Energy Sword was actually based on the Gauntlet Sword originally. Not sure how accurate that is, but there ye go.

[@romajimamulo]

I mean, the handle kinda looks like one

[@masedokaiser8811]

In halo wars arbiter has old design energy swords like your talking about.

[@jesalt8230]

It looks more like a push dagger but bigger.

[@CommanderHolmes]

They did have something like it in Reach for the elites melees

[@Yet_another_placeholder]

The gauntlet sword immediately brings to mind Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist, and I haven't even watched that show... He's just that famous for fighting with a Gauntlet Sword type of weapon. The Sword that Gypsy Danger from Pacific Rim has also works kinda similarly.

[@mediaguyking7045]

These swords where designed whit Indian techniques and martial Arts’s, the weapon makes more sense in that context, madani khel (the Indian weapon martial art) requires a lot of flexibility, and uses a lot of quick attacks

[@ethanm2926]

Hey I just saw this video and I've been working on drawing my dnd character and he has a miniature construct that has a hidden blade in it and I really like that idea of just his hand turning into a gauntlet sword. Great video!

[@jamesoblivion]

The moment I saw this thumbnail, I said, "That's just like Airk's sword in Willow." I honestly can't think of another film that's utilized it.

[@tranquilzephyr]

A couple additional problems with this weapon. Shad mentioned reducing the vibrations felt in the hand while impacting your target by bracing your forearm, but the downfall of this is that you've created a long lever pivoting at the grip with all the force from the slash focused in your forearm and amplified by the difference in length. Quite easy to shatter your own bones this way. The other problem is that, once your opponent makes contact with your weapon, you're left trying to force the short end of a long lever at them while they stroll up and murder you.

[@racoonnylord4343]

my dnd character has a gauntlet sword, as of in 10 minutes

[@rhyanwalsh5713]

@Leo Cook Maybe disadvantage on initiative when weapons not ready due to the difficulties drawing to compensate?

[@MarineQueen2001]

oh hey look it's this guy again... no biggie, totally not excited in anyway... nope, super chill, don't really care that much, I swear. (love you shad)

[@Salim-RS]

Such an interesting concept ^^

[@irugelgumiho5195]

so does a hand granade

[@SIK_Mephisto]

it seems like it would be good for a gladiatorial style use of weapon more than anything, as you wouldn't have to worry about equipping it on the spot and it has the advantage of being a bit different to fight against as well as the whole flashy entertaining factor.

[@9-bitfox]

Shadiversity: I haven't really seen Gauntlet swords in fantasy stories Megaman NT Warrior: You were looking in the wrong genre my friend

[@qtulhoo]

9-BitFox Ezio Auditoure de Firenze: You were looking for the wrong genre, my friend.

[@nerodeadweightclaudius5422]

@Devin Lumpkin Vegito: you're looking in the wrong genre, my friend

[@darkdogzstudioz]

@@qtulhoo hidden blades are not guantlet swords. very different purpose.

[@SaltCane]

He specifically said "fantasy" not "futuristic". I know it's a joke, but it wasn't funny for me. Not even an exhale type of funny.

[@ItsMeFacu]

Y E S

[@EctoPlasmPoison]

Never jumped outta bed so fast as when I saw this notification. Love this series!

[@rjw4149]

Its funny reading things like this at 3pm.

[@GoodBoyLole]

India just has some of the most insane weapons that look like fantasy, I love it

[@mariotrujillo1673]

Good Boy so does China

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

I mean they were one of the earliest civilizations (one of the first 3, the longest lasting continuous civilization, and were almost entirely secluded for most of their history, issolation leads to lots I unique devolopments (i.e. japan) add that too ALOT of time and their very unique environment and you essentially get an alien civilization

[@Christopher-eq1rn]

Good Boy there are gun katars. and lever action scissor katars. and chakrams. they were certainly clever

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Wait...couldnt you put some kinda trigger mechanism in the gauntlet and hook a larger version of a palm pistol into the the gauntlet? It would even have room for a magazine or even easier would be a clip

[@corwinhyatt519]

Isolated??? Riiiight.... The Moguls, actual Aryans, and several centuries of trade/cultural exchange with Ancient China would like to have a word with you....

[@knugget2461]

as you stated around the 16 min. mark a shorter blade would be easier to draw, i have smithed blades for years now and was toying with the concept of gauntlet blade, i had no idea that it really was a thing in history until i watched this vid. Now i was thinking the blade should be 21 to 26 inches long i would really like your thoughts on this length. Thank you for all your time and hard work, I have never been disappointed in any of your vids. Well Done Good Sir!

[@MumboJ]

Could the parrying difficulties be compensated for by using a shield or off-hand weapon? When you were comparing it to the sword in your other hand it looked like you were gonna suggest this.

[@cjcjcool]

I think the shortening of the blade made parrying possible, the long blade on his model makes a shield a must if in real combat

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Indian swordsmanship parrying with the blade wasn’t really done. You’d predominantly use a small shield (slightly bigger than a European buckler) or a Katar.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

It feels like basically every weird weapon is from India. I mean, anyone seen the cobra sword?

[@daemon3347]

i would like to know what are you talking about if you are talking about that weird sword whip thing that is not a weapon used in combat it was just used to solve personal conflicts so people can beat each other until the other person quits there are of course other swords but i would like to know what are you talking about here

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@daemon3347 It's most definitely ceremonial. But it's a sword, shaped like a cobra. Should probably find it if you Google "indian cobra sword" or something like that

[@daemon3347]

@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 So i looked it up and i am still wondering how many kilograms of cocaine you need to end up with that

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@daemon3347 Hehe

[@serPomiz]

looks like somethin a power ranger enemy would use...

[@sab3403]

Awesome! I has hoping you would cover these in this series, great vid.

[@TheKeefeStone]

Don't forget about Witchblade. Magical gauntlet sword. Comics were way wild, but the TV show was pretty tame. First introduction to gauntlet swords, for me personally

[@deathxul777]

Duel wield for coolness I say. The rule of cool applies here mate!

[@mr.j7444]

to be fair if you knew how to be flashy youd be able to scare off a good number of opponenets like that.

[@iota-09]

MR. J helicopter man has showed to be an effective tactic to impress your enemy in the ages outside of gunfights. Just spin around like a beyblade and see what the enemy tries to do

[@agniroyai1230]

In fact, the British recorded that this weapon really was commonly dual-wielded. We can still see this in Indian martial arts today

[@GojiraGhoul]

After seeing that gauntlet sword you made(LEGENDARY by the way). I would really love to see a tutorial video of how you made your other wooden swords.

[@rockhamada294]

I will be honest the moment I saw this i knew it would be good

[@darthvader7146]

Gauntlet Sword: *exist* BM Optimus Prime: I’ll take you all alive!