Horde Mode: Review - DOOM Eternal Update 6.66

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2 жыл бұрын

Doom Eternal's biggest update yet.
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@underthemayo
@underthemayo 2 жыл бұрын
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@Djsjdndnfrkkee
@Djsjdndnfrkkee 2 жыл бұрын
Why hello over the mustard
@Sgt.ArchDornan
@Sgt.ArchDornan 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a discord Mayo man?
@doomcera1006
@doomcera1006 2 жыл бұрын
Are these limited time? I'd love to get some merch but not sure I have the money. Please and thank you
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 2 жыл бұрын
@@doomcera1006 They'll stay up there.
@doomcera1006
@doomcera1006 2 жыл бұрын
@@underthemayo Awsome thank you
@AccountingDerek
@AccountingDerek 2 жыл бұрын
Cheating nonetheless, the top player being "Todd Howard" is funny as hell
@The_Mad_King_Aerys
@The_Mad_King_Aerys 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably really him, he was in the chess club you know.
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Mad_King_Aerys It just works
@georgekostaras
@georgekostaras 2 жыл бұрын
16 times the cheating
@ciai_6199
@ciai_6199 2 жыл бұрын
Who's laughing now?
@AccountingDerek
@AccountingDerek 2 жыл бұрын
@@ciai_6199 did you buy Skyrim
@RipRLeeErmey
@RipRLeeErmey 2 жыл бұрын
7:11 "Put it on your fuckin' baby, I don't care" I fucking love this line for some reason.
@KalebSDay
@KalebSDay 2 жыл бұрын
We need this line in the next ad spot too, haha
@CraftyScotty99
@CraftyScotty99 Жыл бұрын
“And get Flatered!”
@Manjawline
@Manjawline 2 жыл бұрын
I played the horde mode on the weekend and it was tough fighting a Marauder without the super shotgun in the early stages
@jethrodark2372
@jethrodark2372 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a little longer but the grenades of the shotgun kills him np.
@najdatmz
@najdatmz 2 жыл бұрын
I love when I have to fight the marauder without ssg balista or rocket, it's so fun thinking of more ways to kill him when I'm out of my comfort zone
@aakifaslam6098
@aakifaslam6098 2 жыл бұрын
@@najdatmz how do you kill him with rocket?
@captainrex9252
@captainrex9252 2 жыл бұрын
@@aakifaslam6098 you stun him and throw grenades under his feet. Then switch to lock on rockets which pretty much kills him most of the time.
@Ghoulicus
@Ghoulicus 2 жыл бұрын
@@lostalx Are you alright? It sounds like you had a stroke writing that.
@mrturtletail3945
@mrturtletail3945 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Todd Howard actually leads number 1 on the leaderboards, by that many points too. What a absolute unit.
@spring_nottheseason2484
@spring_nottheseason2484 2 жыл бұрын
And with a number of points that's the maximum possible 32bit signed integer! What a coincedence
@soupcangaming662
@soupcangaming662 2 жыл бұрын
@@spring_nottheseason2484 We need 16 times the signed integer of fallout 2147.
@lehran2516
@lehran2516 2 жыл бұрын
What I wouldn't give for the ability to swap grenades during a glory kill animations.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 2 жыл бұрын
If they're not gonna allow separate bindings for either grenade, at least allow that much. Heck, why not the option for either!
@george2p
@george2p 2 жыл бұрын
The only other thing I'd love to see randomized are the arenas, while keeping a similar wave structure. That said, if they're gonna add new encounters, they shouldn't delete the past ones, but rather just add them into another randomization system where it cycles through every encounter on start-up to keep things fresh.
@ryanchong9965
@ryanchong9965 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. There are plenty of arenas that would work well with Horde mode so it would be nice if they randomized the arenas based on the game.
@ButchersNailsEnjoyer
@ButchersNailsEnjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
I think a certain number of heavies or super heavies per round/wave but which ones spawn are randomized would work pretty good
@digivagrant
@digivagrant 2 жыл бұрын
I rather they randomize the map instead of randomizing weapon pick ups.
@ryanchong9965
@ryanchong9965 2 жыл бұрын
@@digivagrant I do think random weapon pickups are a good addition. Horde mode is meant to test you beyond master levels because on top of adding more demons into the fray they take away the weapons you're good/comfortable with. Id is forcing you out of your comfort zone and ordering you to come out on top. Will that mean it will be everyone's cup of tea? No. But it's meant as a challenge for players who want that challenge.
@lugbzurg8987
@lugbzurg8987 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was really hoping to have the huge Super Gore Nest area where the three gore keys are inserted. It seemed like a no-brainer, but it didn't come in.
@Jobby_James
@Jobby_James 2 жыл бұрын
I tried Horde Mode last Friday, all I am going to say is that it is great and when I overcame what I thought was the final fight in the last wave of Round 5 in The Holt. I was horribly mistaken, and Killed!
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 2 жыл бұрын
1:37 - shame that this hud disappears during GK's or chainsaw animations, seeing as they're good opportunities to check your cooldowns.
@ciscokidd999
@ciscokidd999 2 жыл бұрын
You should also be able to swap grenades during GK and chainsaw animations.
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 2 жыл бұрын
@@ciscokidd999 maybe but that'd be a gameplay adjustment. I'm just pointing out a flaw in one of their recently updated features. The rest of the HUD is visible during chainsaw and GKs so it's definitely info they want visible at all times
@SheydokGear
@SheydokGear 2 жыл бұрын
My "fix" to those unhappy with the random weapons is, that at the end of every level, you can "buy" weapons, sacrificing the points you've earned to increase your rank. If you don't, you get one random, if you do, good luck getting those points back, specially if you keep spending them
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 2 жыл бұрын
Hm. I think I like that solution. Maybe it shouldn't be points but anothee currency like weapon points. Buying weapons instead of the weapon roulette could be a cool option for those who want it.
@papouligaming9594
@papouligaming9594 2 жыл бұрын
Horde Mode: Starts you out with only the Combat Shotgun Mayo immediately switching to Full Auto: “I see this as an absolute win.”
@ollytherevenant1653
@ollytherevenant1653 2 жыл бұрын
I know there is some contention on the randomized weapons in horde with the more hardcore player base but the randomization adds so much to the gameplay for me. Having a limited arsenal of a variety of combinations in the early stages is exciting, as I learn the best way to overcome the odds with what I have. I think best remedy for the competitive audience would be a separate mode that has a specific weapon progression. Glad they broke up the horde arenas with blitz and traversal arenas, they are great as well. The whole arcadey structure and everything was great I am thoroughly enjoying horde alongside the other additions and content to the game in this update. Great video!
@javiiibot5887
@javiiibot5887 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I'd say about the randomized weapons is to perhaps start off with two guns instead of one. Playing the Mars Core master level on classic mode really showed me that you can have fun and a challenge with only two guns. Still tho, I agree with your point about giving more gameplay experiences.
@somwelch9776
@somwelch9776 2 жыл бұрын
Btw is it me or is The Holt section literally the funnest arenas in the ENTIRE game?
@ollytherevenant1653
@ollytherevenant1653 2 жыл бұрын
@@somwelch9776 yeah it is really intense and I had a lot of fun getting my ass licked and loosing like 10 extra lives lol
@ollytherevenant1653
@ollytherevenant1653 2 жыл бұрын
KICKED*
@lamptowel
@lamptowel 2 жыл бұрын
randomized weapons are incredibly frustrating if you are pushing for a high score on leaderboard and there should be an option to toggle a set weapon progression indeed. otherwise randomized weapons are fine for casuals and people that aren't as competitive
@adove1723
@adove1723 2 жыл бұрын
idc about my life, I'm just gonna make my way until I'm the best in the leaderboard! Now let me complete the video
@mrdoom9414
@mrdoom9414 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck 🗿👍🏻
@doomgooey6038
@doomgooey6038 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting on how right you are on the randomness, and that it forces you out of your comfort zone Ran Lock On throughout base game + DLCs, and through UN as well. But in horde mode, when you only have a combat shotgun and a RL, how are you going to take on a pinky swarm? Lock on won't help, but remote det falters? Start learning just how sweet they can be!
@oddgbmo3036
@oddgbmo3036 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the challenge it brought. I've been able to place #9 in the global leaderboards for nightmare. And I've played on an Xbox one s lol. I haven't played for 2 days so I might have dropped off.
@RayVa0
@RayVa0 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely have I placed 15 and when a came back I was 74th
@thetophatfreak5627
@thetophatfreak5627 2 жыл бұрын
GG bro
@oddgbmo3036
@oddgbmo3036 2 жыл бұрын
@@RayVa0 I haven't played for 5 days 😭 I must be below 200. But playing re4 in vr was worth it
@oddgbmo3036
@oddgbmo3036 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetophatfreak5627 let's play five nights at Freddy's tomorrow together
@Dondlo46
@Dondlo46 2 жыл бұрын
This update is so massive that it's almost a new DOOM Eternal game
@phaodaimotnguoi-1manfortress
@phaodaimotnguoi-1manfortress 2 жыл бұрын
Horde mode alone could be a complete standalone game ngl
@makito106
@makito106 2 жыл бұрын
I personally wish we had access to slayer gates on the main menu like the master levels and mission selections.
@MOG0311
@MOG0311 2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome and I've wanted the same thing for awhile now.
@fuckso2342
@fuckso2342 2 жыл бұрын
For the main campaign that would be awesome. I also wish for endless horde mode were you get to choose which slayer gate you want to fight in.
@asphyxiafeeling
@asphyxiafeeling 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing idea
@mondragon9282
@mondragon9282 2 жыл бұрын
Horde mode is great. The first run, I had the ssg as my first earned weapon, which made a for a great time moving forward. My second run, I got the rocket launcher first, then the chaingun. Trying to adapt with what I was given has already made me better at the game. I went thru TAG1 and didn't lose a single life just because I learned how to use everything in my arsenal, which made every arena fight so much more manageable.
@doomenthusiast
@doomenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
For horde mode, the final battle was friggin intense. Especially with the bonus waves. Definitely the hardest thing in doom eternal, I was on ultra violence.
@s3nbon5akura
@s3nbon5akura 2 жыл бұрын
I got to the last wave on The Holt on Nightmare with 12 lives. Got absolutely FUCKED with the possesed Marauder and another normal one at the same time 😟
@doomenthusiast
@doomenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
Dang
@ber_
@ber_ 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the score system is not about randomness of weapons but minmaxing around x4 sphere and knowing of the most valuable (per time to kill) demons of that specific set of waves. And there is no score for the style - swapping, midair kills, quickscopes, week points etc.
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any of that as problems.
@ivanbuzuk3915
@ivanbuzuk3915 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@ollytherevenant1653
@ollytherevenant1653 2 жыл бұрын
The first bit isn’t an issue, that’s just how you build score. As for style I could see that possibly being an implementation but the game already does enough to encourage you to build up score with multipliers and blitz mode and preserving lives and what not. So not really an issue, just a solid idea to add to the overall package
@Fatlumpthe1st
@Fatlumpthe1st 2 жыл бұрын
The controller changes are nice but I really wish they'd add M&K support for console. It's been a while since I've played but I'll redownload for horde and the DLC master level, sounds fun
@keanuxu5435
@keanuxu5435 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like M&K on consoles too, but only for campaign. It would make Battlemode too hard for controller users
@moonlightostrich3690
@moonlightostrich3690 2 жыл бұрын
@@keanuxu5435 you can still get great results with a pad
@your_stepbro1756
@your_stepbro1756 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly no.
@SuperPwndProductions
@SuperPwndProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I’m dying to graduate to M&K but I don’t want to invest in a PC since I already have a SX.
@Robert-xk9no
@Robert-xk9no 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonlightostrich3690 I have to strongly disagree. For doom Eternal on PC the skill gap is much higher due to the precision of a mouse. Using eight fingers instead of four (5 for the keyboard) (3 for the mouse)....being able to aim and shoot at the same time on the default control scheme. And having access to way more key binds. The best doom eternal console players would likely be the bottom tier of top level players on PC
@devlama1230
@devlama1230 2 жыл бұрын
My love for gaming died months ago. But seeing the patch release, and this video appreciating the Dev's work and effort while the community stays positive made me smile. This game began as a demon killer fps, and overtime it's evolved into a single player competitive playground with every player having their own unique playstyle. I'm loving it all, keep up the work. And again Thank you for your hard work.
@shinobi_endure
@shinobi_endure 2 жыл бұрын
22:55 I wasn't expecting new levels. I was expecting Battlemode Maps to be used so that I could officially experience them since I don't want to bother with the multiplayer.
@lerozitos
@lerozitos 2 жыл бұрын
Me too that would be perfect!
@codygarvin1917
@codygarvin1917 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really great idea, I really hope they implement this.
@akuskus
@akuskus 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I played through the campaign multiple times in Nightmare, my preferred difficulty is UV. And playing the Horde Mode turned out to be great fun in Hurt Me Plenty.
@Djsjdndnfrkkee
@Djsjdndnfrkkee 2 жыл бұрын
Well I now have plans for the next 27 minutes. Ps: The dread knight is the most overpowered demon (berserk mode literally kills the slayer in 2 seconds).
@Scirus10
@Scirus10 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since the update dropped, I've felt like the flow of gameplay has improved quite a bit. I feel like I'm getting more out of the game than I did before and it's great.
@Sizifus
@Sizifus 2 жыл бұрын
I hope id will add map variations of the Horde mode with future updates now that the solid foundation has been made.
@citizenducktv9169
@citizenducktv9169 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown and review! I’m so excited to see what kind of mode come out of this framework
@Silverlol
@Silverlol 2 жыл бұрын
This gamemode the first thing to make me audibly scream from stress in any game.
@connormako1987
@connormako1987 2 жыл бұрын
Want a button for both grenades? I have a fix but it's a bit convoluted. U can make a macro, useing the program autohotkey, to make a single keystroke, let's say h, become h>e>h. It's not perfect and it requires some setup but it is functional.
@skylartaylor4493
@skylartaylor4493 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, definitely was looking for a new sweatshirt for the winter.
@xghostx9715
@xghostx9715 2 жыл бұрын
I hope in future Doom Eternal updates, the updates will continue to be named like 6.6667, 6.6668, 6.6669, etc.
@oscarvalencia8430
@oscarvalencia8430 2 жыл бұрын
Next update will be 6.9420
@xghostx9715
@xghostx9715 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarvalencia8430 What ideas do you have on what will be on update 6.9420?
@oscarvalencia8430
@oscarvalencia8430 2 жыл бұрын
@@xghostx9715 Joint slayer, pot ballista, revenant dominatrix
@justsomeguywhonegs9536
@justsomeguywhonegs9536 2 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews Mayo keep up your Great Awesome Content❤ *Happy late Halloween*
@JanbluTheDerg
@JanbluTheDerg 2 жыл бұрын
My first run gave me the plasma rifle last. I have never felt more fear for possessed demons than I did then. It's funny that you mention that you swap weapon mods more, because that''s exactly what I found myself doing, switching weapon mods in the early stages because I need to make up for my lack of weapons somehow. It's amazing.
@lugbzurg8987
@lugbzurg8987 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it didn't affect me that much since I tend to save possessed demons for last. And they seemed to tweak spirits for Horde Mode so that they don't possess fodder.
@Jontohil2
@Jontohil2 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I loved about the random weapons is that on one run, it forced me to learn sticky bomb precision bolt combos on the fly
@Joshua-dr1ev
@Joshua-dr1ev 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for advocating such a healthy community mindset. I appreciate how you speak respectfully to the top-tier players while still looking out for the 99%. Great video as always Mayo!
@21stcenturycacotaco92
@21stcenturycacotaco92 2 жыл бұрын
Very well structured video Mayo, keep up the good work
@notgabriel8624
@notgabriel8624 2 жыл бұрын
This mode is amazing and has so much potential. I think there’s some additions to it I’d love to see, namely customization. I’d like to do a traditional wave-based endless horde mode. Overall love Horde, LOVE Battlemode 2.0 and I super love Dreadknight. A bit of advice for my console homies, bind the Super Shotgun to your L3 so you can quickly switch and meathook away when you’re cornered. Helps against Dread’s beserk in BM and is also so nice in general gameplay. That little taste of PC action I had going from Precision to Ballista to SSG was amazing.
@Repose_
@Repose_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dread Knights are really fun to play as, it has its highs and its lows because it mostly gets its strength out of using berserk. It can at times feel OP against a slayer but any slayer who can remain near a portal and knows how to ballista boost to get movement away from him can escape the berserk assault.
@MunkeyChips
@MunkeyChips 2 жыл бұрын
14:30 I thought of something similar. What if it spawns two weapons randomly at the end and you have to choose one to take? It gives more player control but keeps most of the random nature. I personally like it as is.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 2 жыл бұрын
Now THAT I really really like!!
@RomanticallyBro
@RomanticallyBro 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I would’ve liked to see in 6.66 would be an extra mode in horde mode with all weapons unlocked from the start but there’s a RIDICULOUS amount of demons in the arena and it’s endless. I’ve found myself using weapons I don’t usually use in the campaign because of horde mode. Great update
@doomtoaster3924
@doomtoaster3924 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man i love your content, you are the first doom content creator that that i watched since i bought DOOM ETERNAL upon release. You taught me not to give up on a game like this and now it's my favorite game ever
@CaptainMo137
@CaptainMo137 2 жыл бұрын
I played a couple rounds of hoard mode, and before then i only ever used ballista to hit weak spots. Ive started using pb now bc i got it early in my nightmare run & learned quick scope combos. It feels really awesome to improve areas outside my comfort zone and the randomness really helps with that.
@michaelleveille3906
@michaelleveille3906 2 жыл бұрын
Love your take on the update. Great video as usual. One thing I wish they also added to horde mode is random maps mixed with the random weapons. It would truly make each run unique.
@nucleus691
@nucleus691 2 жыл бұрын
1:34 didnt hugo confirm we will never get a seperate ice bomb bind? 3:42 whats so bad with the fight being optional? If you want to fight demons, fight demons, if not just skip it. Rerolling is a bad idea because the player might roll an even worse option on his second go. They could just roll 2 weapons at the same time and you simply choose 1.
@Darkmoone1
@Darkmoone1 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I respect the merch plug at 6:45 lol.
@xteensgames
@xteensgames 2 жыл бұрын
In my first play through, I had the issue of dealing with the Spirit in the Cultist Base final arena wave 4 with no Microwave Beam since it didn’t spawn in. At the time, I thought that was a design choice because I didn’t realise weapon spawns were randomised. It was annoying, but crazy fun. And now that I know that, in repeat play through where I don’t have microwave beam, I won’t do that bonus wave. That is part of what makes repeat play through interesting - each time, your experience may be different depending on choices and weapon you’re given.
@michaeltrahan2313
@michaeltrahan2313 2 жыл бұрын
The random weapons make horde mode very fun and replayable though even I an ultra-violence noob slayer think sometimes it sucks when you dont get the weapon you want. Also I will say the last encounters in The Holt are insane, possessed marauder, double possesed Barons with a marauder, triple arch-viles,
@lb21a
@lb21a 2 жыл бұрын
“Put it on your fuckin baby” Idk why I found this so funny
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know,Speaking of Horde mode and How everything in said mode. Have you ever thought about trying out The Bloody Palace from the DMC games ?. Would love to hear your thoughts on that,Critical or other wise cus I have a feeling you'll definitely enjoy it regardless since the works just as similar where the more stylish you are the better you scores are and the top most players are filled with super talent players.
@cactoos654
@cactoos654 2 жыл бұрын
i really think horde mode needs more systems to earn points with. as of right now the only ways you can maximize your score is timing the multiplier boosts and not using the bfg. i think some more stuff granting you bonus points for killing a lot of demons at once , killing a superheavy soon after it spawns, etc would make the battle for a high score a lot more fleshed out and fun.
@silfah3194
@silfah3194 2 жыл бұрын
This update actually got me to really appreciate your playstyle and also involving some of it in my own. I dont know why, but the plasma rifle is now really essencial for faltering for me and it really improved my gameplay. Still not the biggest fan of full auto but i enjoyed the first few rounds of horde mode using it. Great video by you and great Update by ID.
@Siddhartha13
@Siddhartha13 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video Mayo. One of your bests. Keep it up!
@guyclegg
@guyclegg 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing wipe out mentioned makes me happy.
@Kedist6811
@Kedist6811 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about using the unmayker in horde instead? Feels bad to have a tool as fun as the BFG and to be rewarded for not using it. Maybe work in a charge base system rewarding unmayker ammo during the multiplier onslaught buff.
@joelsandwich4239
@joelsandwich4239 2 жыл бұрын
What runes are people using for certain rounds?
@WantedArgonianMale
@WantedArgonianMale 2 жыл бұрын
You helped me fall in love in with this game. Thanks!
@ihbupontyne
@ihbupontyne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mayo I’m not sure if you’ve attempted ultra nightmare Mars core yet, but I found an odd in the second to last arena. When the shielded buff totem spawns in, watch out that you’re not on top of it. It made me reset as if I fell off the map and then got stunlocked to death. Not sure if this is an issue elsewhere but felt it’s worth mentioning maybe.
@TechNinjaSigma
@TechNinjaSigma 2 жыл бұрын
An Update worthy of the Number
@maxgoldstein7202
@maxgoldstein7202 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning me Mayo(I'm mad_maxg) I hope Abel recovers. This update is great. I grinned so hard when I saw the double possessed barons and the turrets protecting the buff totem in the last Holt arena. Same case with the World Spear ML, especially the unique arenas like the stone imp courtyard with the low ceiling. Keep up the good work, I'm loving the content recently
@electricconor
@electricconor 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the random weapons, takes you out of your comfort zone. I never use the plasma rifle but it was the first gun I got, and it was really fun trying different strategies I don't typically use.
@greendude0420
@greendude0420 2 жыл бұрын
I had the map ambience glitch happen to me yesterday for a few seconds then it went away, so props to ID!
@alienatedpoet1766
@alienatedpoet1766 2 жыл бұрын
I played horde mode when it came out. Made it to the last mission on Nightmare first try and took a break. Played it last night, I went into the last arena with 14 lives. I died on the last wave. That difficulty spike is sharp. Edit: Also, I really want to like Battlemode. Back at launch when everyone was the same skill, it was really fun. But for a long time there are so many UN players in battlemode that casual players like me still don't want to play it. When they said they would "add ranking" I thought they meant they are adding a ranked mode so those ultra-competitive players won't be in the same pool as the fans who just want to grind cosmetics or just have some fun. What they added was a grindy cosmetic series. Just about all of the "changes" to battlemode are putting band-aids on fundamental issues with the mode. They now hide player tags so players don't leave when they see a UN player. Instead of actually fixing WHY we leave. Also the dread knight is so OP right now, that when a player uses it people leave anyway. So we are at the exact same place as before. They are dealing with low player population for battlemode, so the add a (Sadly timed) series with new cosmetics. And a streak system. But if your mode already has a player retention problem, then just adding a grindy XP series onto a mode I don't want to play, doesn't make me want to go back because the rewards for a casual player like me, is unrealistic. It's like every part of the game is made to be fun for master players and casual EXCEPT battlemode. Battlemode is masters only, but even then the masters stay with singleplayer and the master levels. And the few times I loaf up the mode, something I used to use is gone. They want skillful players, but take away mods that funnel you into certain playstyles rather than building your own skill. I used to use the destroyer blade on jump pads. It took timing and precision. That wad removed. Same with the minigun shield. So if this "battlemode 2.0" overhaul is made to 1. Bring back players who were alienated by the difficulty spike like me 2. Keep the few players that are still there 3. Reward players that will play battlemode from now to the future Then it failed because it didn't actually fix the reasons why I and many others refuse to play the mode. To me, this isn't worth a "2.0" moniker. As if it is some sort of major revival of the mode. But it just goes back to the core issues. So, if ID sees this, here is my list of actual fixes to battlemode. 1. Separate the gamemode into casual and competitive 2. Lower the series reward requirements or increase match-to-match XP. 3. Add a practice mode with bots so players can learn the demons like we learned the slayer. 4. Add the shield and destroyer blade back into casual, at least. Until they address these issues properly, I'm not touching battlemode at all. I drop in every so often hoping they shadow-fixed it, but if "battlemode 2.0" didn't actually fix the mode, then I'm done. I'll just stick to horde mode and master levels. I just wanted to play all of my favorite game instead of ignoring a mode. And until they add demon skins to singleplayer, I'll just let those cool skins collect digital dust.
@lugbzurg8987
@lugbzurg8987 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes. The fact they removed the ability to see upcoming Battlemode player's Doom Level rankings while also adding limited-time cosmetics AND that whole "Hot Streak" system was just downright mean. There's way too much luck involved for something with such a small window of time. There's no way I can get all these "Hot Streak" cosmetics with all the Ultra-Nightmare players running around when I can't identify them until it's too late. And backing out of a fight counts against your Hot Streak. They said they keep Doom Levels hidden to keep people from backing out of matches, but they never seemed to ask themselves WHY players do that. (It's 'cause there's no system in place to group people by skill!) So, they just made the situation EVEN WORSE. If there were no "Hot Streaks" or we could still see other players' Doom Levels in the lobby, I wouldn't have much of an issue. But putting both of these together is downright unfavorable.
@Boltboy-kh7yw
@Boltboy-kh7yw 2 жыл бұрын
Send this to someone who will show it to hugo! I know im late but if it's still an issue im certain they would at least consider addressing it
@alienatedpoet1766
@alienatedpoet1766 2 жыл бұрын
@@Boltboy-kh7yw Thanks. I still feel most of this. I'm hoping the ranking system ironed out some of the skill pool, but I doubt it. What really sucks is the immoran gun skins look awesome, red is my favorite color, but the gamemode is pretty much the same, so I can only let those skins pass. I'll buy them if a cosmetic pack is released instead.
@GeorgiSlavov
@GeorgiSlavov 2 жыл бұрын
1:26 The lord is okay with just calling him Hugo!
@Papa_Waffles
@Papa_Waffles 2 жыл бұрын
I really love Horde Mode, the randomized weapon is great and your re-roll idea is actually brilliant!
@valdeabeast3283
@valdeabeast3283 2 жыл бұрын
man i love the horde mode random weapons mechanic because i use the plasma rife a lot and it happened to be the last weapon i got out of the full arsenal so it was very interesting fighting certain enemies such as the armored baron very fun 11/10
@bengough6955
@bengough6955 2 жыл бұрын
I have only just, today, bought the ancient gods dlc. I love doom eternal so much but got distraught trying to get through UN and needed a break. I can't wait to get stuck in cos I've seen only trailer footage. Not watched any playthrough stuff, and though I know the end (almost impossible to NOT see that), I'm so excited. Can I ask....is TAG 2 better now? IE a good challenge? I loved the difficulty so really want to chew down on something hard again (jokes welcomeL
@lehran2516
@lehran2516 2 жыл бұрын
If you fire off sticky bombs well you can kill all the turrets protecting the buff totem at the end at once. it's pretty fun to do.
@bonelesschickennuggets1868
@bonelesschickennuggets1868 2 жыл бұрын
23:40 OMG I felt this specially on the third traversal challenge in Holt, I can already do the first 2 kinda easily but the third one is so tricky to pull off, but I’m not discouraged I’m sure I’ll get better at Tarzan myself with the Meathook. Overall, I love horde mode, I already unlocked everything but I’m still going to try and beat my best score, difficult thing to do since I’m already at gold lmao.
@maxime2445
@maxime2445 2 жыл бұрын
I like the randomness. It's awesome. Because that means I have to use guns I usually don't. As long as they fix the weapon wheel. That my edited version can be used. All I dislike is that we can't erase spirits.
@Nico30337
@Nico30337 2 жыл бұрын
in my first run the heavy cannon was my last weapon and it was really interesting having to do combos i wasn't used to doing, as literally all of my combos (even stagger combos) use precision bolt
@thenodger7607
@thenodger7607 2 жыл бұрын
When I first played Horde Mode as soon as update 6.66 was released, which i was waiting for pretty much all day, the first heavy/super heavy demon I was put against was a Doom Hunter, and all I had was the combat shotgun. it was the first time i had faced a Doom Hunter without some powerful weapons and most importantly, the plasma rifle, and my god was it fun to fight it.
@crimsonmcblack4260
@crimsonmcblack4260 2 жыл бұрын
I glad they give you fully upgrade weapons, because my main strat is just spam the grenade launcher mod on shotgun to win, unless I need the plasma gun for the spirits
@danooshansureshkumar8405
@danooshansureshkumar8405 2 жыл бұрын
Wait is the horde mode weapons at the end of rounds randomized? I always get the ballista second. Note ive only played horde mode twice, the first time I only got to the ballista
@TH3B00T
@TH3B00T 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:30 when you make the statement of requiring a seperate bind for frost and frag grenade. I know It’s a nitpick but VEGA specifically says in the Campaign you will be required to manually toggle the grenades. I do understand the reasoning though for smoother gameplay
@bengieofftheleash9217
@bengieofftheleash9217 2 жыл бұрын
I'm super glad they added horde mode. I haven't played in forever and I actually suck rn, horde mode helps me familiarize myself with weapons and forced me to survive ob very little, making the game challenging and helpingbm learn how to fully utilize my weapon wheel. To anyone who's annoyed by it, you need to suck it up and get better. Doom Eternal gives you the tools to help make you better. Use them.
@luckylooster
@luckylooster 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing you can have custom controls on console now. A neat thing would be having button combinations or things simply like double tapping them as then you could map everyone weapon.
@cyanaquamarine
@cyanaquamarine 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love playing Horde Mode, and because of the randomness of the weapon rolls, it gave me a newfound appreciation for weapons I did not use frequently. First run, got the Plasma Rife, and I cannot tell you how much I used the gun, especially Microwave Beam. Even at the very end of the Holt, I consistently used the MB to nullify superheavys. Horde Mode has made me a better player because of it forcing me out of my comfort zone, and experimenting with the resources provided. I have not had this much fun with Eternal since TAG 1!
@Ben_of_Langley
@Ben_of_Langley 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video I absolutely love horde mode myself and I wouldn't mind a endless mode but if its done correctly for me a endless horde mode would play out like this so like with what we got you three maps each map being rather large having power ups come in after a certain amount of time say ten minutes and chainsaw fuel coming in after a amount of time and then the waves breaking down into ten waves each one getting harder and harder with more and more higher tier demon's coming out in the later stages the last wave being the endless wave that is a good mix of all the demons from the chess set that I think would work.
@macanudo6206
@macanudo6206 2 жыл бұрын
we need a mod sith the mayo voice saying "prepare for the final fight !" maybe combine this with the "WAWAWAWAA" mod ^^
@RedSSSandwich
@RedSSSandwich 2 жыл бұрын
Boomerang X had different settings for its playlist mode: You could have an alternative playlist/leaderboard for non-random and set weapons, or even custom settings. That re-roll idea is more fun, though.
@normanbestboi9117
@normanbestboi9117 2 жыл бұрын
The dread knight is really good, he is also considered to some extent broken. The berserk ability he has can kill a full health full armor slayer in like 3 seconds. While it informs you of it, it feels that its abit broken. The range of it, makes running away to avoid him almost impossible
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 2 жыл бұрын
The "Get Faltered!" art reminds me of the "PROMOTIONS!" meme used by /tg/ every now and then.
@bolski6125
@bolski6125 2 жыл бұрын
I love the randomness of Horde Mode. That's what makes the replay factor of this mode so good, because each time you start a new session, you don't know what you're gonna get (to paraphrase Forest Gump's mom). :) Spot on review (as always)!
@dannes22
@dannes22 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm all about the combat experience and the "horde" mode -which is a silly name for this challenge mode- is way to interfering for me, the constant changing of arenas really infuriates me not to speak of the Mario sections... But as you said, I've got the master levels for my combat =) I would love that endless random chaos mode, I think my potential favorite game is something like a combination of devil daggers and Doom.
@pjf674
@pjf674 2 жыл бұрын
14:30 The fact that you can quit and restart at the beginning of missions 2 and 3 does sort of allow you re-roll the weapon picks, right? Does quitting and restarting disqualify you from leader boards?
@cam0227
@cam0227 2 жыл бұрын
By the time you're on those missions, you almost have every weapon anyway so there's no reason to restart
@Maxler5795
@Maxler5795 2 жыл бұрын
On my first horde mode playthrough i aldo got the plasma rifle at the end. And it msde me use spirits as a warning. And it made me set up spirits so they possess a zombie and i could leave them for the end.
@javiiibot5887
@javiiibot5887 2 жыл бұрын
The controller button changes are awesome, but theyre overshadowed by the fact that the weapon wheel still doesnt allow you to remove the BFG/Unmakyr. Im still accidentally choosing the BFG when i meant to use the rockets.
@HunterForHire422
@HunterForHire422 2 жыл бұрын
I just got back into eternal these last few days and I went through the entire campaign after this update not using the sticky bombs. Something i would have thought was crazy a year ago. Full auto is just insane.
@holdmyballista9151
@holdmyballista9151 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that all of the content in this update... Especially horde mode is free makes me so happy and it makes me so proud that I'm a part of this community and also what an inspiration hugo sir is. Loved it. Thank you guys.
@Kver1
@Kver1 2 жыл бұрын
did anybody notice hammer sometimes not working on tyrants? especially after an ice bomb. I noticed it couple of times already. If I ice tyrant and then hammer him in 2 seconds after ice he ignores the hammer and recovers immediately after ice effect goes off.
@MOG0311
@MOG0311 2 жыл бұрын
hammer him first do as much damage as you can then drop the ice bomb on him to finish him if he's still alive. Also, when using the hammer, I found it's better to make sure you're about 5-10 ft away from the enemy you intend to stun, dropping it right on there head tends to make it inconsistent.
@mgh7818
@mgh7818 2 жыл бұрын
I had to fight through the first two levels without ballista and pb, it was a rush trying to use blood punch and heat blast for weak point and also sticky bombs
@TheSpudHunter
@TheSpudHunter 2 жыл бұрын
The wall collision movement issue with dashing is rough but otherwise an awesome big update for the game. So much CONTENT.
@beautifulmanstan8840
@beautifulmanstan8840 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh dude, the same thing with the plasma rifle happened to me. You never realize how useful it is until you don't have it.
@superdragon4ever
@superdragon4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me if it's mentioned in the video, does this make the horde mode mod obsolete now? Is this all around better and more polished?
@SyrupBuccaneer
@SyrupBuccaneer 2 жыл бұрын
They remain two very different experiences, both with pluses and minuses, but Mayo points out that because these new systems have been introduced into the code the mod scene will be able to create the best of both worlds into something truly incredible. But regardless of anything that happens Proteh's original horde mod is immune to being surpassed as it's recognizable in its own right as an unofficial expansion to the game. It will always be there ready to give you a new challenge.
@JerkingtheGerk
@JerkingtheGerk 2 жыл бұрын
Glad they fixed the falter; I hated cyber mancubi because remote detonation never reliably faltered them and you’d get hit with the slime explosion.
@ryaneggens
@ryaneggens 2 жыл бұрын
got a new phone, getting a new "get faltered" phone case now, thanks again :)
@cpa4able
@cpa4able 2 жыл бұрын
10:11 dammit todd howard has done it again
@theduck1539
@theduck1539 2 жыл бұрын
12:43 holy shit what a mouthful
@proteh
@proteh 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review maestro.
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