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Steph Curry won his fourth title and first NBA Finals MVP last week, in which Shannon Sharpe said would vault him into his Top 10 list of all time. Hear where Shannon places Chef Curry, including whether Skip Bayless has him on his all-time list or not.
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 2 жыл бұрын
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@Orlando1106
@Orlando1106 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan or LeBron in their prime? Case closed! MJ’s the GOAT.
@jasonu3741
@jasonu3741 2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 of the Modern Era (creation of 3pt shot, expansion of teams) 1979-Current Jordan Lebron Kareem Magic Duncan Shaq Kobe Curry Bird Hakeem
@deshawnhughs5531
@deshawnhughs5531 2 жыл бұрын
MICHAEL JORDAN NUMBER 1 KOBE NUMBER 2 FACTS
@tiltmodeeee
@tiltmodeeee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Orlando1106 is still
@jasoncollie1731
@jasoncollie1731 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows Steve Nash robbed Kobe back to back.. Shaq was in Miami playing backup behind Wade. Stop lying on national TV. But Shaq got Robbed and Kobe was what# Westbrook MVP
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 Жыл бұрын
Shannon’s face when Skip said he had Shaq at 3rd 😭
@shadowrksstudiosandenterta4520
@shadowrksstudiosandenterta4520 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same frfr
@thirstyfajita4115
@thirstyfajita4115 11 ай бұрын
he had him at 2 a couple of years ago
@jefbishop5514
@jefbishop5514 8 ай бұрын
😂 I love skip hilarious way of saying things
@UnknownGh0st
@UnknownGh0st 2 жыл бұрын
Once I saw Shannon’s top ten on the screen I just start spamming the fast forward button to see where skip was gonna have lebron on his list 😂😂😂 I mean I knew it was gonna be low but 9???? He must be trolling us at this point 😂😂😂😂
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 2 жыл бұрын
Brons floor is 3, but honestly he isn’t first. Even if they played the same game with the same stats they have id still put Jordan first, but when Jordan played it was SO much harder to score, stack stats. The foul and ref system back then made it so much harder on offense
@nameless1204
@nameless1204 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahsimms2992 Not true, 2000s were much harder to score due to the rule on double teams. MJ could get in isos way easier and zone defense was banned in the 90s. You either had to commit to the double or play man to man. No funneling allowed.
@trewilliams8411
@trewilliams8411 2 жыл бұрын
Skip is just speaking facts it’s Shannon That’s the problem bruh
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 2 жыл бұрын
In Jordan’s era jersey checking was legal and every time someone would go up for a shot they were allowed to yank you down by your Jersey mid shot and it wasn’t a foul. That’s mainly why I’m saying it was harder. Also people back then took more 2s, which usually translates into less points scored but that was bc Steph wasn’t in the league yet. Mainly the Jersey checking. I see what u mean though about the plays
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 2 жыл бұрын
True. Skip doesn’t like new players though. Is biased for retired players so he has lebron at I think it was 9th? And curry isn’t even over Kobe in his list. Kobe only had 1 mvp
@Protezee
@Protezee 2 жыл бұрын
anytime skip talks about steph they should just cut his mic
@therealdannyfenton
@therealdannyfenton Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 Fr though
@TheTonytone77
@TheTonytone77 Жыл бұрын
stephs garabge
@chancewright7649
@chancewright7649 Ай бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 nice english
@wernerbackman3668
@wernerbackman3668 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq last to 3peat, his average in the NBA finals during the 3peat: 38.0, 33.0 and then his third 36.3. Shaq in his day absolutely unstoppable, commands a doubleteam every posession, and a lot of opposite defenders are in foul trouble. Shaq killed Tim Duncan on multiple occasions, and Duncan is a top6 player in my books. Curry is top ten player, but Shaq is not the guy you bump out.
@RetroEternal
@RetroEternal 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with SENSE. Shaq is undisputed Top 5 and he isn’t 5
@logandraper6271
@logandraper6271 Жыл бұрын
No one wants to say it but tbh the guy who should get bumped is Bird. His injuries ruined his longevity which has to come into play in the all-time lists and between him and Magic I have Magic still there.
@RetroEternal
@RetroEternal Жыл бұрын
@@logandraper6271 Bird’s prime was enough to keep him on the list. 3 straight MVPs, for those years it was undisputed who the best player in the world was
@therealdannyfenton
@therealdannyfenton Жыл бұрын
@@logandraper6271 If anyons bumped its between Bird and Wilt. Wilt only has 2 chips and 4 mvps and Bird has 3 chips and 3 mvps, so it's between those two. And id personally take off Wilt before Bird cause of time Bird played in. Wilt dominated cause of his size and height but Bill was 3 inches shorter playing the same position with more rings obviously and mvps. So it really should be Wilt.
@BoosterGoldEarth6
@BoosterGoldEarth6 Жыл бұрын
Brah Wilt Chamberlain caused the mt.everest shift in the 🏀 world. Rules change x5 to limit his dominance. He didnt dominate based off his size. He limited based on his size. He couldn't bulldoze like Shaq or Lebron. It was a charge back then. Dude athleticism is greatest prolly ever. Bill Russell/Wilt won the same mvps when both of them were in the league. Wilt owns the record book for Playoffs and regular season. Let not even get into who Did Shaq play in the finals when he won. Washed up players who were bums. Teams was bums. Refs handed them titles. Wilt Chamberlain is top 2 With Michael. The 🏀 world goes out of it way to suppress the real GOAT. In Wilt. The debate in the 90s and 80s was who the GOAT. WILT OR JORDAN. Even those two among all of thr players argued about it. Everyone else was bystanders
@underachiever8532
@underachiever8532 2 жыл бұрын
I think Steph staying on the same team his whole career is under appreciated
@vexotimmer2675
@vexotimmer2675 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, same with Tim Duncan.
@TribekaGaming
@TribekaGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Where is he supposed to go, he had the perfect team, all star teammates amazing front office and coach, not everyone has that luxury
@Phenomanation24
@Phenomanation24 Жыл бұрын
Magic , Kobe , Timmy, and Bird did the same thing
@robertoangel873
@robertoangel873 Жыл бұрын
@@TribekaGaming Everyone says the same thing but you can say the same thing about Duncan, Jordan, Kobe, Bird and any other top player
@poly_g6068
@poly_g6068 Жыл бұрын
It's over appreciated. That's a ridiculous prerequisite. Tim Duncan doesn't have remotely the same peak as Shaq and does not deserve to be higher than him. I don't care if Shaq played for 10 teams, that should not devalue anyone's career.
@nnamdiede1180
@nnamdiede1180 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq at 3? LeBron at 9?….Skips list makes me have a near heart attack every time he reads it.
@Jeazzy24
@Jeazzy24 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq at 3 is too much but lebron at 5 is a good spot behind mj and Kobe. 6 final losses eliminate him from top 3
@DestroyerOff
@DestroyerOff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jeazzy24 Kobe ahead of lebron is a insult to common sense. The only reason he has so many finals elimination is that he can carry trash teams to the finals unlike Kobe or Jordan.
@Jeazzy24
@Jeazzy24 2 жыл бұрын
@@DestroyerOff trash teams. Lebron has played with more Hof and all stars then anyone. Get out the comment section with the nonsense cuz u don't like facts. 6 Ls eliminate u from top 3 PERIOD
@gerry9773
@gerry9773 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jeazzy24 bruh kobe wasn’t even the best performer on his team 😂😂😂dude had shaq
@Jeazzy24
@Jeazzy24 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerry9773 yet Kobe got more rings 😂😂😂😂 make it make sense. How many rings Shaq had before he got Kobe. Don't worry I'll wait 😂😂😂😂😂
@brandyhalabi819
@brandyhalabi819 2 жыл бұрын
Unc too funny “Now run tell that, you see that list, look list right there” 😂.. He makes tha show better frfr, whether it’s a serious segment/topic or a comical one, Unc always got that edge.
@mybrotha8144
@mybrotha8144 2 жыл бұрын
that's a fact
@brandyhalabi819
@brandyhalabi819 2 жыл бұрын
@@mybrotha8144 RIGHT? Unc too much fr lol.. Thanks Unc, a much needed laugh!! @mybrotha81 have a great day, God Bless 🙏🏽
@take_a_quaalude6948
@take_a_quaalude6948 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon’s list most resembles mine and makes most sense to me. Skip with having LeBron in 9th is OUTRAGEOUS! This man is on his way to having the most points ever in NBA history and he’s got him 9 and Shaq 3rd? Skip, stop this!
@Gubs2
@Gubs2 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq’s longevity is underrated, he averaged 20+ for 14 straight years and was an all star caliber player for a few more
@lukiyanchuk20001
@lukiyanchuk20001 2 жыл бұрын
So does Lebron for 19 seasons straight. He deserves a spot near Jordan
@spjr99
@spjr99 2 жыл бұрын
jordan lebron kareem shaq magic td kobe hakeem steph bird
@spjr99
@spjr99 2 жыл бұрын
thats my list
@henry7765
@henry7765 2 жыл бұрын
ShaQ is underrated and Kobe is overrated
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@henry7765 fr
@AlbinoMonkey96
@AlbinoMonkey96 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh Shannon’s face at 3:26 killed me 😂😂😂
@MaDFroG88
@MaDFroG88 2 жыл бұрын
😂 🤣
@dawsnoshift4286
@dawsnoshift4286 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@buddyjaydubb
@buddyjaydubb 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭 Skip hit him with some nonsense
@trewilliams8411
@trewilliams8411 2 жыл бұрын
@@buddyjaydubb you mean knowledge 😆
@trewilliams8411
@trewilliams8411 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon sharpe just stupid
@sdawg7632
@sdawg7632 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with both of them. Shaq is fosho higher than 10 just not quite 3 and like Shannon said, Lebron is 3 at worst. Its always interesting to see where people put Wilt and Russell. Plus personally, if Curry wins another championship he goes from 11 to 7 on my list. If he wins two more it really starts to get interesting. And I think he’ll play another 6-8 years and the Warriors have a smart front office, definitely possible.
@glenroybrathwaite1531
@glenroybrathwaite1531 Жыл бұрын
So are you judging by the amount of championships players have,well if so Bill is number 1.Everyone has their own list so its all about opinions.I would say Wilt is most underrated and so is Dr.J and Karl Malone
@NotGord
@NotGord Жыл бұрын
​​@@glenroybrathwaite1531 Rings have like 50% influence in rankings. So Steph's ranking will always rise every time he wins a championship. But rings arent everything that's why no one thinks Robert horry was one of the greatest. Also Bill Russel's championships should be valued less since it was in an 8 team league.
@user-zd8dp2re8k
@user-zd8dp2re8k 2 жыл бұрын
Curry is amongst top 10 who changed nba rules and style Along with wilt and the goaltending Shaq and the 3second rules Jordan and bad(boy) flagrant fouls Lebron and the zone defense Now chef curry pull up from halfcourt with the small ball era so the nba gonna need a 4points line and count fullcourt shots for 5points Final score 230 - 88
@IceMicko
@IceMicko Жыл бұрын
You forgot Wilt. Many rules were changed to stop him from dominating even more.
@khaliekmason7006
@khaliekmason7006 Жыл бұрын
Lebron didn’t changed how the game is played
@MrGameonthis
@MrGameonthis 2 жыл бұрын
So Skip lists off Shaq accolades to make a point of why he's all time over Steph but what would he say if you did the same thing with LeBron? Having him 9th with all he's accomplished, accolades, and records with Shaq as your 3rd all time is the most blatant form of hating and contradiction I've seen.
@moosakashif115
@moosakashif115 2 жыл бұрын
prime shaq was unstoppable
@Hi-vh5oj
@Hi-vh5oj 2 жыл бұрын
@@moosakashif115 Shaq got sweep ALOT with penny hardway explain to me how is that possible?
@moosakashif115
@moosakashif115 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hi-vh5oj I don’t care mate those 5 years in the early 2000s there’s been nothing like that since wilt
@LilmanQ7
@LilmanQ7 2 жыл бұрын
Bron is def top 5 wherever you put him. I have him 3rd but I agree. Shaq is on the list just farther down. I say wilt is off now.
@nathansteele4358
@nathansteele4358 2 жыл бұрын
on top of his takes against giannis, shaq is the king of poor free throws
@IAmImprintJones
@IAmImprintJones 2 жыл бұрын
All time greats for both lists and at the end of the day two of the GREATEST at the desk that are truly UNDISPUTED, big love skip and Shannon 👑
@SabrumBaker
@SabrumBaker Жыл бұрын
Looking back I find it kinda ironic how the best 1-2 combo are really maybe the only 2 you have to choose from to take out of the top 10.
@jackdiddIey
@jackdiddIey 2 жыл бұрын
I love Shaq but putting him top 3 greatest of all time is absolutely crazy Edit: Being the best in your prime or having a unstoppable dominance in your prime doesn't make you great. It's like Skip when he tries make his case for Baker with that 11 game stretch, QBR 91 scale 0-100, 4th highest rated QB spiel. You have to take TOTAL BODY OF WORK not just their greatest hits/career highlights hence why Shaq can never be a top 3 greatest all time. He's not even a top 3 center all time (Kareem, Wilt, Bill)
@Coregame3
@Coregame3 2 жыл бұрын
How
@coreyhiggins6890
@coreyhiggins6890 2 жыл бұрын
4 chips 3 fmvps
@moman36
@moman36 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not, all this is subjective
@reppintime3890
@reppintime3890 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreyhiggins6890 1 regular season MVP tho
@levizin917
@levizin917 2 жыл бұрын
if you watch the best game in the peak of every great, shaq is the best, thats why they call him the most dominant ever, he was literally unstopable, but he had bad longevity so I wouldnt put him in top3, but I understand why someone else would
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about these lists is that everyone has different metrics. One of the biggest bring individual success vs Team Success. How great were you vs how often did you win. Wilt and Russell capture that to the extreme.
@dannyshi2342
@dannyshi2342 2 жыл бұрын
And Lebron and MJ are kinda the best of both worlds (include Kareem if you wanna) that's why they considered GOATS
@doesntmatter6453
@doesntmatter6453 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt only had 2 tho. He has crazy stats but Russell put the clamps in him when they met.
@MrSuperman957
@MrSuperman957 2 жыл бұрын
@@doesntmatter6453 No, he didn't LMAO. Wilt averaged Wilt Chamberlain averaged 28.0 rebounds, 25.7 points and 4.1 assists in 49 games in the playoffs versus Bill Russell If someone is getting 25 and 28 on you, you ain't clamping him down. Not to mention, that the 55 rebound game was against Russell. Even scored 61 on him at one point
@JCT1926
@JCT1926 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, in theory Wilt and Russell embody that. If you're under 70, though, you really never saw Wilt and Bill play. There just isn't enough footage to go back and really see how it was. Some counter-intuitive things may very well be true. There's an argument that Wilt was just putting up useless numbers early on, but when he reduced his scoring it could be arguable Wilt was actually "better" than when he was averaging 50 (in a year with the highest pace of all time and playing 48 minutes a game). I'll never know, though, because the footage is scanty to say the least.
@belairdeep
@belairdeep 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, simply going to the Finals is counted as an "accomplishment." Winning a title literally means nothing today unless you're Lebron.
@lewisanthony1237
@lewisanthony1237 2 жыл бұрын
3:13 skips usage of “all-time” along with Shannon’s face is all-time comedy
@Mindag13
@Mindag13 Жыл бұрын
Give Kobe some damn respect
@thegreat195
@thegreat195 Жыл бұрын
Top 5. He’s better than magic, bird and Duncan.
@tayshaunmoney4621
@tayshaunmoney4621 Жыл бұрын
​@@thegreat195kobe is not better then Tim Duncan or Bird
@thegreat195
@thegreat195 Жыл бұрын
@@tayshaunmoney4621 he is absolutely better than both of them.
@tayshaunmoney4621
@tayshaunmoney4621 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreat195 no he's not not all time
@ahmedrajab2976
@ahmedrajab2976 5 ай бұрын
yes he is. Kobe used to destroy Duncan in the playoffs.@@tayshaunmoney4621
@ryanmorehead7191
@ryanmorehead7191 2 жыл бұрын
Skip casually says Steph “underperformed in games 3, 4, 5, 6” when he played a 47 8 7 gem of a game 3 and a great game 5 where he forced a game 6
@djzulumask2138
@djzulumask2138 2 жыл бұрын
A game 6 were he played like absolute trash
@beastmry
@beastmry 2 жыл бұрын
Because Klay went down. It was his game. Obviously Steph had nothing left after that catastrophe.
@mikejones1765
@mikejones1765 2 жыл бұрын
@@beastmry injuries part of the game
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 2 жыл бұрын
If a 47 8 7 game is underperforming for a player with more than 1 mvp they’re UNARGUABLY top 10 😂
@siamxx415
@siamxx415 2 жыл бұрын
@@beastmry he had like 14 points before klay went down
@HakeemKaree
@HakeemKaree 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of attacking who is and isn't top 10, we need to increase the value and emphasize the importance of the top 15 or 20, the difference between 4-15 is often where the debate lies because the passage of time will add more and more great players of comparable success and talent. Everyone top 10 order is different but 90% of everyone's top 15 have the same players which is actually where the value lies.
@feynmanschwingere_mc2270
@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 2 жыл бұрын
There's ZERO consensus on 1 - 4. ACTUAL players don't rate Lebron as highly as fans do.
@jocrunch82
@jocrunch82 2 жыл бұрын
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 and who are the many players who have backed up your claim?
@johnjones-js7ed
@johnjones-js7ed 2 жыл бұрын
You're completely right. It's so subjective between 4-15. Do you value longevity? Higher peak? Do you value defense and rebounding? Or the ability to make teammates better? The ability to orchestrate an offense? Do you value athleticism or sheer physical dominance? The ability to switch 1-5? Do you value having the clutch gene? Accolades? There are so many factors, it comes down to personal preference. I personally don't have Curry top 10. 3 of his 4 rings were easy and heavily favored to win, and he also didn't peak until around age 26 so he doesn't have a crazy long peak compared to a lot of other players. He's also lacking athleticism and strength so he can't defend or dunk at an elite level. There is nothing wrong with saying Curry is top 12-14 and still going, that's still an unbelievable feat but ppl act like it's slandering him. He made it to top 15 while being serviceable on defense at best and peaking late, which just goes to show great his offense is. You're right that most ppl have the same top 15 and it's like splitting hairs trying to make a top 10. A lot of ppl underrate Oscar, Hakeem, Russell, Jerry West (30ppg player with elite defense), even KD could be argued considering he was superstar by age 19 so he has longevity on his side.
@operasinger2126
@operasinger2126 2 жыл бұрын
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 LeBron has a rep not easy to work with. However, LeBron can pretty much win with any very good team.
@phill2
@phill2 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why Im beginning to hate Mount Rushmores because it becomes a discussion of Who are you leaving off of it
@Qichar
@Qichar 2 жыл бұрын
Can we keep it real here? As a Lakers fan during the Kobe-Shaq run, and as someone who had to sit through the loss in 2004, I am 100% with Shannon about Shaq. Was Shaq all-time TALENTED? Of course! We haven't seen anybody like him since Wilt, and they dominated in different ways. But let's not forget, Shaq was a massive liability at the free throw line. They even named a strategy after him, "hack-a-Shaq". You COULD NOT HAVE HIM ON THE FLOOR IN THE 4TH QUARTER OF CLOSE GAMES IF YOU WANTED TO WIN. Come on, do we say that about Curry? We can argue defense all day but it's clear (to me at least) that Steph has become a credible enough defender so that teams can't blatantly exploit him on that end of the floor like they exploited Shaq's weakness. Steph is still a bad individual defender but you have to worry about him in the passing lanes and he picks people's pocket on a regular basis (highest steals average per game in the 2022 Finals). On top of that, Shannon's absolutely right. Shaq's ability fell off a cliff after he left the Lakers. Shaq did NOT have Kobe's work ethic and was famously quoted saying stupid (for a pro athlete) things like "I got hurt on company time, I'll get better on company time." OK, maybe if you want to be mediocre this makes sense, but if you want to be AMONG THE BEST IN THE WORLD this isn't quite a killer mentality. And yeah, we can argue they should have given the regular season MVP to Shaq instead of Steve Nash, but we also argue that Steph should have gotten the Finals MVP the year Iggy won it. Overall, I think Steph has had a bigger impact on the game, was the first unanimous regular season MVP, and has shown he can win without a top tier superstar next to him. Shaq never won anything without Kobe or D Wade, both all-time great shooting guards. And Steph did this not ONCE, but TWICE without KD. So let's not pretend it's all about Shaq being bad or anything like that. No, Shaq is an all-time great player. But like Shannon said, it gets ticky-tacky as time goes on for a top 10 because there are always going to be new great players in the game, and therefore it gets more and more crowded on these all-time lists when it comes to making a case for different players. But I think Curry over Shaq isn't that hard. Yes, they couldn't stop Shaq in his era, but can anybody stop Curry in this one? In Game 6 of the Finals, wasn't Steph stepping on the logo draining 3's to close out the series? To my eyes, the only one that stops Steph on any given night is Steph (because he's cold shooting). And oh right, to stop Shaq all we have to do is foul him.
@kdub5thav453
@kdub5thav453 Жыл бұрын
Shaq is the youngest player ever to make NBA top 50 greatest players that saying alot about Shaq how great he really was Kobe even said out his own mouth that Shaq was the most dominant player he's ever seen and played with facts
@vinnyl264
@vinnyl264 Жыл бұрын
You said you were a lakers fan during their run but you say all you have to do to stop Shaq is to foul him? Obviously you weren’t really a fan if thats what you really think….
@Qichar
@Qichar Жыл бұрын
@@vinnyl264 I'm being facetious to some degree, but obviously I mean "stop him in the 4th quarter". You can't keep Shaq on the floor late in games because he's going to be fouled repeatedly and the other team will just keep taking free throws. OBVIOUSLY Shaq is one of the all-time greats, a force of nature, and nobody could keep Shaq from going where he wanted to go on the court, including the rim. (Well, a couple of guys gave Shaq some trouble, like Yao Ming for example)
@vinnyl264
@vinnyl264 Жыл бұрын
@@Qichar it’s become more and more obvious you never watched the lakers lol. They were never pulling Shaq in the 4th quarter of big time games… especially on the lakers. If you didn’t watch, just say it.
@kevinharrissr5255
@kevinharrissr5255 Жыл бұрын
@Qichar you should have this comment published as a book. It's certainly long enough. And it's accurate. Some of the things you mentioned I had totally forgotten about. Shaq was a monster but it didn't last long enough for him to be top 10 all time. Shannons argument is well thought out while skip is using shock value. The debate is not even close.
@kojodareaper
@kojodareaper 2 жыл бұрын
This one of them segments we’ll be seeing in our recommendations for years to come
@reggie7408
@reggie7408 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree a lot with both of their lists. As for Shannon, I didn’t rl hear an argument as to why he had Steph over shaq, he jus said shaq underachieved. And skip having Bron at 9…
@dkallday197
@dkallday197 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Shaq shouldn't be punished for underachieving. His resume is great. 3 fmvps, 1 mvp, scoring title. 8th all time in blocks. Top 10 in scoring and per. He should be a mainstay.
@Hi-vh5oj
@Hi-vh5oj 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq got sweep ALOT with penny hardway explain to me how is that possible?
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hi-vh5oj and Curry choked a 3-1 lead, Choked in 2018 what’s your point?
@starfireprincess
@starfireprincess 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God he rode on kobe and d wayde
@Cam-qb5wb
@Cam-qb5wb 2 жыл бұрын
@@somregularguy and Lebron chocked against Dirk when he had bosh and wade Ur Point?
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz 2 жыл бұрын
Skip is just a funny dude. You can’t help but to laugh when you hear him talk.
@huntertholstrup7413
@huntertholstrup7413 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron at 9 on his list lmaooo 💀
@LarsRR
@LarsRR 2 жыл бұрын
He has discredited LeBron for his poor freethrow shooting so much, but has Shaq third all time. What the f?
@theglassesriley8229
@theglassesriley8229 2 жыл бұрын
This list changes every year.
@lebronjames1474
@lebronjames1474 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is already better than me. He won 4 with the same team. I had to hop to Superteams to win 4 rings.
@BigWilt2000
@BigWilt2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@LarsRR right 😂😂😂😂
@VikingsGoingAllTheWay
@VikingsGoingAllTheWay Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest segments ever😭😭
@Kn1ghtlord
@Kn1ghtlord 2 жыл бұрын
Every all-time great has always had other great players with them. To win rings you have to have some serious talent on the roster. Jordan had Rodman/Pippen, Lebron had Wade/Kyrie/Davis, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Shaq/Gasol, Curry had Klay/Green/KD. Everyone has talent with them, but the only difference now is that players have way more of a say in team building. The problem is the ever-shifting criteria. If its rings, its Russell not Jordan.
@danteariente7660
@danteariente7660 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever said it was rings. It’s a balance of everything and Jordan had the best balance.
@lordaizen2192
@lordaizen2192 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the only star players LeBron had? 😂😂😂
@serialsbabydaddy8787
@serialsbabydaddy8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordaizen2192 just about unless you trying to mention Bosh. I dont consider Kevin Love a real star tbh
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 Жыл бұрын
This is the worst team curry has ever been on talent based tho. Klay wasn’t even on the team for most of the year injured. But they fit together so they worked
@Kn1ghtlord
@Kn1ghtlord Жыл бұрын
@@elijahsimms2992 I feel like this was the year where the future was on display while Curry still lead the team.
@ilyasaden2900
@ilyasaden2900 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe at 9 is crazy, no bias
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 2 жыл бұрын
@Trendy way Because of those **** allegations lol
@ilyasaden2900
@ilyasaden2900 2 жыл бұрын
@Trendy way Idc if he only had 1 mvp, Guy has 15 all nba selections, 9 of em being first team, and was also 9 times first team all defense, 12 selections. He above bird and Duncan.
@jamiekoga1903
@jamiekoga1903 2 жыл бұрын
@Trendy way nah it had everything to do with that case and everyone knows Nash didnt deserve those. Kobe and Shaq should've got 1 each of those. This is also why you can't go by stats alone to know who was actually nice like that on the court. One of those seasons Kobe avg like 35 a game and had an insane run of like a month plus of scoring 60 and 50 every damn game! Insane numbers that Nash didnt even come close to.
@Adam-yv1fc
@Adam-yv1fc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilyasaden2900 he's definitely above bird but Duncan? Nah
@ilyasaden2900
@ilyasaden2900 2 жыл бұрын
@Trendy way Why you talking to me about curry, I said kobe over duncan my guy.
@vb2388
@vb2388 2 жыл бұрын
My Picks.. 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Bill Russell 6. Magic Johnson 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Tim Duncan 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 11. Shaquille O’Neal 12. Stephen Curry
@joshuaeterno601
@joshuaeterno601 2 жыл бұрын
Just list is pretty accurate 👌
@hoodie7257
@hoodie7257 2 жыл бұрын
List solid asf
@SamoaVsEverybody814
@SamoaVsEverybody814 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Russell way too high bruh
@Sasuke547
@Sasuke547 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq and steph should be in the 10
@SamoaVsEverybody814
@SamoaVsEverybody814 2 жыл бұрын
My top 15 15. Moses 14. KD 13. Dr J 12. BRussell 11. Steph 10. Bird 9. Hakeem 8. Duncan 7. Shaq 6. Kareem 5. Magic 4. Kobe 3. Wilt 2. Lebron 1. MJ
@jweezy5490
@jweezy5490 2 жыл бұрын
I like Shannon's list more, I can't put Shaq in the top 5 ever, he was insanely dominant for a few years, but the league created a meme strategy that took him out of the game late in games, hack a Shaq. Plus I struggle to put him ahead of the all time leader in blocks that Shaq himself even said was the greatest center of all time
@santiagobuenos9673
@santiagobuenos9673 2 жыл бұрын
Really hard for me to compare Steph to Hakeem/Shaq, just totally different positions and players
@leultrainstinct406
@leultrainstinct406 Жыл бұрын
Ain’t no way curry is better than either💀💀
@tigera6
@tigera6 Жыл бұрын
@@leultrainstinct406 better ball handler, better shooter, better passer. Steph just wasnt born as a 7ft and 280lbs player, if that what you means "better", then yeah.
@cursin
@cursin Жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 don’t respond he’s always everywhere in the comments hating on curry as soon as they lose a regular seasson game starts spammming and then when they win he stays quite
@willjohnwick6911
@willjohnwick6911 Жыл бұрын
@@cursin he’s been doing this for awhile now huhh still doing it these playoffs 🤣🤣
@germy2053
@germy2053 2 жыл бұрын
there’s a lot of bias on who they’d have in there top 10, but shannon gave a clear and real explanation as to why his list is the way it is, i respect his decisions in putting players in the spots he did even if i don’t 100% agree with them
@NikeZay2
@NikeZay2 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly like Shannon’s top 10 was more understandable than Skips 💯
@kiddtiko
@kiddtiko 2 жыл бұрын
true but shaq not bein top 10 is still insane
@daddyallen4889
@daddyallen4889 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiddtiko yea but skip had em 3rd based on 4 years😂😂😂.
@nonbinaryqtip390
@nonbinaryqtip390 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair Shannon does make good points I mean the closest player we have to shaq today is Giannis and he already is showing he has the drive and work ethic to keep improving his game so just imagine what shaq woulda been if he had that same drive and will to be the best I think by the time Giannis ends his career he will be looked at as the most dominant player to grace the game cuz by then he should have a more then decent 3 pt shot a good mid range game to go along with his just absolutely monster game in the paint🤷🏽‍♂️
@moody01
@moody01 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing alike
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is 11-15
@LilmanQ7
@LilmanQ7 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing, shaq knew what he excelled at. He knew if 3s would’ve been a bigger factor back then he would’ve practiced that. But it was just a different era where 3s weren’t really a big factor like now.
@colinforsecs3393
@colinforsecs3393 2 жыл бұрын
Everything that Skip says about Wilt and Russell is wrong, and he overrates Kobe and Shaq, they both had 1 MVP, and had a couple seasons where they were the league's best player, they haven't broken any NBA individual records I'm aware of neither. And, lol! I love how everyone over rates Bill Russell..Never once led his team in scoring, no finals MVP although the damn award is named after him and you would think someone with the same physical advantage over players in that era that supposedly Wilt is accused of one would assume he could atleast come close to the same success offense. Truth is he was a sh!tty offensive player..11 rings?...Never led his team in scoring? Just no. Top 10 of all time? Really? Oh but wait, we're told he locked Wilt down, but after checking that stats Wilt averaged 30 a game against him with a high of 52 points, over 40 rebounds..WTH is going on? Why do people sh!t on Wilt? Obviously these lists are media driven. Jordan, Wilt, Kareem and Lebron are the greatest NBA players to have ever laced shoes..All the other remaining 71 players on the anniversary team are about the same level..
@MickeyEntertains
@MickeyEntertains 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinforsecs3393 not disagreeing with you, but keep in mind those Celtics didn't win until Bill got there. They continued to Win after Cousy left. They kept winning win Bill Sharman left. If I'm not mistaken they won one more when Sam Jones left. As soon as Russell is gone they didn't even make the finals for 5 years
@joesimba
@joesimba Жыл бұрын
18:46 "But ol goat, there's somethin' about ol goat" 😆
@yeon723
@yeon723 2 жыл бұрын
skips kobe placement is the most reasonable, but honestly to me kobe is right behind MJ. Kobe beat the most 50win teams for his 2 rings, did it without shaq, second place in all nba defensive first teams.
@bigmadafaca1020
@bigmadafaca1020 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Hakeem is top 10. His back to back chips with a lackluster supporting cast is too underrated
@Stevenirons
@Stevenirons 2 жыл бұрын
I love the dream but we all know that if Michael wasn't forced into retirement Houston would have gotten denied
@munir9527
@munir9527 2 жыл бұрын
1995 Rockets had Drexler, who was 2nd in MVP voting in 1992
@Htx48
@Htx48 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevenirons lol then he would never have won 8 straight. I can guarantee you that
@vincetaliaferro2777
@vincetaliaferro2777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevenirons that's not something completely certain. Besides if you quit/retire than that's on you.
@Stevenirons
@Stevenirons 2 жыл бұрын
@@vincetaliaferro2777 he didn't quite or retire he was forced out because of his gambling problem
@HavokSolo
@HavokSolo 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon: "You a hater." Lmaoooo the way he just stops trying to reason with Skip has me rolling.
@trewilliams8411
@trewilliams8411 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’ve been trying to tell people Shannon sharpe is crazy
@allbraun7
@allbraun7 Жыл бұрын
Skip must be paid to troll, he is outrageous
@SEETORONTO416
@SEETORONTO416 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, have a wonderful day everyone.✌
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
Skip got the most bs top 10 list I ever saw he's talking about Steph not over Shaq due to achievements but this man got Lebron at 9 🤦🏾‍♂️
@NewEra389
@NewEra389 2 жыл бұрын
@Kizzle B the biggest hater stat I have seen in my life
@leir2005
@leir2005 2 жыл бұрын
The GOAT debate will always be between Jordan and Lebron, everyone knows that. Skip is letting his hatred for Lebron influence his placing. Lebron is top 3, if not top 2, in EVERYONE’S ranking
@paulwilliams2024
@paulwilliams2024 2 жыл бұрын
Top 3 not top 2
@alexstachura11
@alexstachura11 2 жыл бұрын
@Kizzle B LMAO then I guess Kobe was horrible bc he's got 29% on go ahead shots and bron averages 29pts, 10rb, 8as, 3stls, 1block on 50% shooting in finals
@jp23x
@jp23x 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon takes out Shaq and has Jordan at #2 but you're complaining about skips list? Lol gtfoh.
@TuPapiSuave69
@TuPapiSuave69 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe deserved more than just one MVP.
@Gofroze
@Gofroze 2 жыл бұрын
Bron deserve more than four
@user-xe5fz6se9j
@user-xe5fz6se9j 2 жыл бұрын
No he didn’t. Which year?
@anthonygonzalez9317
@anthonygonzalez9317 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xe5fz6se9j all the years Nash won it
@user-xe5fz6se9j
@user-xe5fz6se9j 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygonzalez9317 What were the Lakers records in both of those seasons compared to the Suns?
@dkallday197
@dkallday197 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xe5fz6se9j thank you. Been saying this for years. I think lakers missed playoffs and finished 7th seed or something. Mvp usually goes to team with one of the best records. If he researches a bit, he will see 1 is valid
@dimitriusrivera9872
@dimitriusrivera9872 Жыл бұрын
BLESSINGS
@shanybiran468
@shanybiran468 Жыл бұрын
Shaq is the greatest football player/tank the NBA has ever seen. Basketball player to me means elite skills in passing, shooting, dribbling, movement without the ball, court vision, leadership to make others better and determination to get the W. Steph took his pound for pound greatness and surpassed the heavyweights. Did what Iverson couldn't and won 4 rings while changing the game. Steph belongs in the top 10. Some may need time and distance to see his greatness, but we are witnessing it first hand and close up. Period.
@saturdayticket
@saturdayticket 8 ай бұрын
Did Iverson have KD, Iggy and Klay?
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
I get why Shannon puts Lebron at #1. That's his guy, but bumping Shaq out of the top 10 is blasphemous
@Ronnie-mx1wu
@Ronnie-mx1wu 2 жыл бұрын
Who are you taking out of Shannon's top 10?
@MrDetectiveCraig
@MrDetectiveCraig 2 жыл бұрын
I would take Larry bird out for shaq
@YamomzBB3
@YamomzBB3 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDetectiveCraig what….
@POKEFAN023
@POKEFAN023 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDetectiveCraig the disrespect continues smh
@POKEFAN023
@POKEFAN023 2 жыл бұрын
He need to take Kobe off. I love Kobe but man is top 15 at best. Kobe wasn’t even the best when he played. In the early 2000s it was Shaq, mid 2000s it was Tim Duncan, and late 2000 it was a Lebron James. Ima get hate for this but it’s true
@ZeroShaneBob
@ZeroShaneBob 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only sports talk shows I still watch. Love these two.
@nighthawk9915
@nighthawk9915 Жыл бұрын
They are horrendous. Kobe Bryant #10 and Shaq not even top 10? What a joke!
@virokami5469
@virokami5469 Жыл бұрын
@@nighthawk9915 it’s accurate tbh
@TheStreetAnalyst
@TheStreetAnalyst Жыл бұрын
@@virokami5469 guess that 3peat they had means nothing
@thebman02
@thebman02 Жыл бұрын
Did the audio seem off to the video to anyone?
@jimmykarlsson2567
@jimmykarlsson2567 Жыл бұрын
Shaq was dominant player for 10 years, from 1993 to 2003 he was a superstar
@nnamdiede1180
@nnamdiede1180 2 жыл бұрын
“Steph didn’t destroy anybody in the playoffs”. Really Skip? James Harden, KD, Russ, and Dame still have nightmares about GS in the playoffs. The man is 6-0 in the WCF.
@semionjohnson1351
@semionjohnson1351 2 жыл бұрын
All those players besides KD are choke artists in the playoffs so those feats aren’t as impressive as you make it seem
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 2 жыл бұрын
@@semionjohnson1351 Chuck was a straight choker as well in the postseason but y'all worshipped Jordan for beating him. Another easily caught on double standard bro
@jaffarkrismakavel4878
@jaffarkrismakavel4878 2 жыл бұрын
kd destroy james harden and steph didn't destroy kd wesbrook was wack
@BroCoolFire
@BroCoolFire 2 жыл бұрын
Steph always choked before this year.. Learn basketball
@semionjohnson1351
@semionjohnson1351 2 жыл бұрын
"Judy Clarkson" nah chick wasn't a choke artist
@priztucker
@priztucker 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting take on Shaq by Shannon. But it's funny how Steph not only changed the game, he's changing the requirements to be in the Top 10.
@deangeloj4349
@deangeloj4349 Жыл бұрын
Funny how steph hasnt actually done any of those things
@kylejoseph7849
@kylejoseph7849 Жыл бұрын
No hes not.. meat licker
@aaronuthayakumar1967
@aaronuthayakumar1967 8 ай бұрын
@@deangeloj4349 you dont think he changed the game? just say you dont know ball
@TyroneBiggums789
@TyroneBiggums789 3 ай бұрын
@@aaronuthayakumar1967 preach, I’m the biggest curry fan and putting magic ahead of him although I wouldn’t, it’s a respectable take but saying curry didn’t change the game it’s just hate for no reason.
@WTC-1990
@WTC-1990 Жыл бұрын
My top 10 is 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Tim Duncan 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5. Magic Johnson 6. Steph Curry 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Shaquille O'Neal 10. Hakeem Olajuwon Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain don't get on my list cause they played when it was 8 teams and the Celtics where winning titles and still getting the top picks
@primetrollex8071
@primetrollex8071 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon’s face when skip said shaq is third is priceless
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
The arguments Shannon is saying for Kareem and Wilt over Shaq is the same for Jordan over Lebronm more MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles, steals titles, memorable moments, etc. Lebron only has MJ in longevity stats like Mailman.
@SagaTheFunniest
@SagaTheFunniest 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read every 1 of ur comments and all of them are spot on. At this point skip is just a biased current superstar hater he doesn’t like players who are still in the league being in the top 10
@SagaTheFunniest
@SagaTheFunniest 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon really the only 1 who makes sense on this show
@paulwilliams2024
@paulwilliams2024 2 жыл бұрын
Not when it comes to his Brady hate or Jordan hate
@munir9527
@munir9527 2 жыл бұрын
James has more RPG, more APG, more BPG, higher 3P%, etc
@rockmorales
@rockmorales 2 жыл бұрын
@@SagaTheFunniest You mean you read him spamming for likes?
@pikinbarraza948
@pikinbarraza948 2 жыл бұрын
My top 10 1 MJ 2 Lebron 3 Kareem 4 Wilt 5 Magic 6 Kobe 7 Curry 8 Russell 9 Duncan 10 Bird
@khalilah9680
@khalilah9680 2 жыл бұрын
Nah...Duncan higher. He would have 6 is ray didn't make a prayer. Bill Russell is out...only avg 16 and played with all Allstars with only 8 league team.
@flatpluto5253
@flatpluto5253 2 жыл бұрын
My top 10 1 MJ 2 Lebron 3 Kareem 4 Duncan 5 Kobe 6 Bird 7 Curry 8 Magic 9 Russell 10 Shaq
@Glane6339
@Glane6339 2 жыл бұрын
Timmy gotta be higher then Kobe and Curry fs
@navsaimbi1565
@navsaimbi1565 2 жыл бұрын
Horrible list😂
@navsaimbi1565
@navsaimbi1565 2 жыл бұрын
U have wilt over magic kobe curry shaq duncan lmao
@renewd
@renewd 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is 34, not 32 - that's a big difference in terms of what he might accomplish in the future.
@ronaldogilley4274
@ronaldogilley4274 Жыл бұрын
Steph pushes Shaq out🤣🤣🤣Love you Unc, but you tweekin with that one😂
@stevlarenvaylor6627
@stevlarenvaylor6627 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq stats 92- 23.4pts 13.9 rbs 93- 29.3pts 13.2 rbs 94- 29.3pts 11.4 rbs 95- 26.6pts 11.0 rbs 96- 26.2pts 12.5 rbs 97- 28.3pts 11.4 rbs Those are his 1st 6yrs Shaq came into the league top 5
@HolyRan187
@HolyRan187 2 жыл бұрын
If he played in todays game you can add 12 more points for every year
@MariE-bz2eq
@MariE-bz2eq Жыл бұрын
Hakeem still gave him them buckets
@OfficialTravvyTrav
@OfficialTravvyTrav Жыл бұрын
But he folded against the rockets when Jordan left
@jamestaylor2979
@jamestaylor2979 Жыл бұрын
@@HolyRan187 12?? Nah he cant shoot and he would be put in pick n rolls all game on defense and hed have to guard on the perimeter with he wouldnt be geat at! Mayb his first 5 years hed be good but not them LA years
@victortorres9168
@victortorres9168 Жыл бұрын
Shaq was rookie of the year, 7th, not top 5 in mvp voting and dint even make All NBA 3rd team, made 3rd team his second year.. Tim Duncan was rookie of the year, top in 5 mvp voting, top 5 all defense voting and All NBA first team since he was a rookie. There are levels to this... I know Shaq was a beast, but he was only all defense 3 times compared to Duncans 15x... If anything Shaq underperformed based on his size and physical ability. Shaq is still in my top 10 though...
@deucepickle2091
@deucepickle2091 2 жыл бұрын
We're in that dreaded time of year when the first block of the show for the next two months are going to be some version of Jordan versus Lebron. Where we hear the same stories and arguments over who is better.
@RetroEternal
@RetroEternal 2 жыл бұрын
Yea because headasses like Shannon putting Bron over the GOAT
@Blickymouse4
@Blickymouse4 Жыл бұрын
“You been knew dat” 😂😂😂
@looechange7966
@looechange7966 2 жыл бұрын
When Shannon is talking about Kobe only having one MVP everybody knows that he got robbed for about two other ones because of what happened in colorado! Let's be clear one of Steve Nash's MVPs belongs to Kobe and one of Steve Nash's MVP's belongs to Shaq
@RKO859
@RKO859 2 жыл бұрын
Cry more. Should of would of. Nash was clearly more valuable to his team than Shaq and Kobe.
@T2Runner
@T2Runner 2 жыл бұрын
@@RKO859You need to share whatever you're smoking with everyone else. Nash had no business winning either of those two MVPs. Most NBA historians even say it was a fallacy for Nash to win those two.
@shelbyhaiketic4212
@shelbyhaiketic4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@RKO859 cry more lebron has 6 finals losses. 😂💀
@ccarr1286
@ccarr1286 2 жыл бұрын
@@RKO859 🤡
@looechange7966
@looechange7966 2 жыл бұрын
@@RKO859 there is no way you can be more valuable if you weren't the better player that year. By a mile. For instance you can legitimately make a case that Michael Jordan should have won MVP every year in Chicago with the exception of his second year. When he broke his damn foot. Another example... Joel embiid was clearly the MVP of the League this past year and Nikola jokic got it. The years that they gave a 16 point average player the MVP was clearly a popularity contest. The year that Shaq won MVP everybody knows that he should have been the unanimous MVP and one reporter just didn't like Shaq.
@Levi_99
@Levi_99 2 жыл бұрын
3:26 Shannon's face 😭😭
@will_1470
@will_1470 2 жыл бұрын
I like the respect for bird one of my favorite players of all time
@BroCoolFire
@BroCoolFire 2 жыл бұрын
So what
@maliprince8703
@maliprince8703 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ratchetface bird had numerous games scoring under double digits in the finals. He's a choker
@Chr1ShawnKPD
@Chr1ShawnKPD 2 жыл бұрын
I do too, but LeBron is the best SF ever, that puts him above Bird
@will_1470
@will_1470 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chr1ShawnKPD yeah but I like bird more because of his trash talking
@blunt2416
@blunt2416 2 жыл бұрын
@@maliprince8703 yea but he never went 0 for 9 from 3 & he never went crying for help after losing to Magic.
@hoodperspectivenetwork
@hoodperspectivenetwork 3 ай бұрын
I miss this show so much
@leoncooksey4524
@leoncooksey4524 Жыл бұрын
Imo I think with in the next 20 years, I think this will be the top 8 nba players of all time (no order) and I’m basing it off of impact to the nba, and rings and championships and personal accolades throughout their career. (No order) 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3. Lebron 4. Kareem 5.steph 6. Magic 7. Bill Russell 8. Wilt
@deezyvsop2
@deezyvsop2 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron at #9 is incomprehensible. There's no way he's anything but top 2-3.
@WhoTFisChedda
@WhoTFisChedda 2 жыл бұрын
has that Peyton Manning syndrome
@antoniobrown6210
@antoniobrown6210 2 жыл бұрын
He has 2 chip
@gzk13kc28
@gzk13kc28 2 жыл бұрын
He is more like between 3 and 6
@MelodicHollier
@MelodicHollier 2 жыл бұрын
#4 for me
@TheKman1014
@TheKman1014 2 жыл бұрын
2nd
@David-jt1be
@David-jt1be 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon got Shaq to low and Skip got him to high smh... I got him in like 7-8
@SShaBazzz
@SShaBazzz 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's aubjective so I'll at least respect their lists.
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you since 2003 Shaq's been between 7-10
@Vjl5280
@Vjl5280 16 күн бұрын
1. MJ 2. Kareem 3. Wilt 4. Duncan 5. Bird 6. Magic 7. Lebron 8. Kobe 9. Shaq 10. Russell
@bigcmac8006
@bigcmac8006 2 жыл бұрын
Bro these lists be killing me with Kobe anything above 3 , did y’all forget that soon?
@younggwillis
@younggwillis 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hugest difference between Skip's and Shannon's list is that Skip is largely basing his list off of those intangibles (i.e. clutchness or dominance) vs. Shannon is a bit of both, leaning towards stats (i.e. number of MVPS, longevity accolades). Both got their points and everyone's top 10 is going to be different. Shannon's right, at some point you gotta be nitpicking to make this list.
@demetriusreynolds8178
@demetriusreynolds8178 2 жыл бұрын
I like the players in skip’s list, I just don’t agree with the order. At the end of the day it’s personal preference. Stop calling Kobe the closest thing to Jordan then rank him low. Wilt is more dominant than Jordan. Jordan just had better team success because of the era he played in. Shaq definitely shouldn’t be above any of these guys as I think he kinda underachieved what should’ve been a wilt like career
@tielaser
@tielaser 2 жыл бұрын
@@demetriusreynolds8178 I really do wonder what Shaq’s career would look like if he stayed in his Orlando Magic shape. I really don’t see why he couldn’t have Atleast 6 rings especially with Wade as his sidekick at one point. Heck even if there was beef with Kobe imagine.
@demetriusreynolds8178
@demetriusreynolds8178 2 жыл бұрын
@@tielaser if he put in the same work Kobe did they should’ve never lost or at least had as many as Kareem and magic had together. Waiting for shaq to play his way into shape by playoffs was gonna catch up to him eventually.
@RetroEternal
@RetroEternal 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon is right about nitpicking, but he’s DEAD WRONG knocking Shaq off, especially for the reason being his lack of longevity. Shaq’s prime was more dominant than most of the people on Shannon’s list.
@RetroEternal
@RetroEternal 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon is right about nitpicking, but he’s DEAD WRONG knocking Shaq off, especially for the reason being his lack of longevity. Shaq’s prime was more dominant than most of the people on Shannon’s list.
@BenjaminAlexanderSWH
@BenjaminAlexanderSWH 2 жыл бұрын
I get all the championships Russel has but if we’re talking about actual player skills I wouldn’t put him in the top 10. He has the hardware and I know he was more defensive than offensive but his stats just don’t hold up to everyone else. He played with a lot of HOF players in a league that was a lot weaker overall.
@michaelsevilla3226
@michaelsevilla3226 2 жыл бұрын
facts alot of people don't realize that
@jamridd14
@jamridd14 2 жыл бұрын
You do have a point. Bill Russell did play with other HOF players, but there were some HOF players already there before he got there and couldn’t win, and when Russell retired, it took like 4-5 years for Boston to win another championship with HOFs on the roster like John Havlicek and Jo Jo White. They had other great talent also.
@TreyDoe
@TreyDoe 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@KingInTraining
@KingInTraining 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and in the same breath I can’t really put wilt ahead of him because his hardware doesn’t match the anomaly of his statistics as great as they were. I think it’s just hard to put these guys in this conversation because of the time they played. I do think they would both still be all time great players today I just don’t have a legit evaluation of the players they are compared to other greats so I respectfully have to leave them out of my top 10.
@kpaukeaho6180
@kpaukeaho6180 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, really hard to evaluate players that far back in comparison to today’s NBA. Same goes for Wilt. He had unbelievable numbers we aren’t likely to ever see again, but the overall talent levels in the league during his time were much lower than they are today. The league is so much more athletic now, and the shooting accuracy and range is at levels I don’t think anyone in that era could have imagined. Makes it really difficult to evaluate the greats of 5+ decades ago.
@yarleysanchez8957
@yarleysanchez8957 2 жыл бұрын
My top 10 I got 1. LeBron James 2. Michael Jordan 3. Kobe Bryant 4. Magic Johnson 5. Tim Duncan 6. Bill Russell 7. Larry Bird 8. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 9. Shaquille O'Neal 10 Stephen Curry
@nadspurs
@nadspurs Жыл бұрын
Top 10 lists are always fun 😀😇My list is 1)MJ 2)Bron 3)Bird 4)Magic 5)Kareem 6)Shaq 7)Duncan 8)Russell 9)Kobe, 10)Wilt (I Have Steph currently at 12 )
@NoobGamer-mh4gj
@NoobGamer-mh4gj 2 жыл бұрын
Going off of shannon's logic, jordan should be 1. He has more awards
@POKEFAN023
@POKEFAN023 2 жыл бұрын
Lol got ‘em. These bronsexuals don’t know what to say anymore. Remember when LeBron only had 2 rings and they were saying “if Lebron James wins one more ring then he’s already better then Jordan” 5 mins later…rings don’t matter, it’s a team achievement lmao
@POKEFAN023
@POKEFAN023 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonfernandez9902 keep crying lmao
@LYDD.
@LYDD. 2 жыл бұрын
@@POKEFAN023 what’s your top 10
@Hi-vh5oj
@Hi-vh5oj 2 жыл бұрын
@@POKEFAN023 your a causal Lebron carry bums and broken/olds people
@Hi-vh5oj
@Hi-vh5oj 2 жыл бұрын
@@LYDD. my list MJ Lebron Kareem Magic Kobe Russell Wilt Bird Duncan Steph Shaq got bump off my list
@MrFlawless57
@MrFlawless57 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get top 25 from now on. Its too many great players.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 2 жыл бұрын
Steph being in the top 10 is a matter of opinion. Top 12-15 definitely.
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 Жыл бұрын
Bruh the league had to change the way the entire nba is played AND changed 3 point foul rules mainly bc of him. Stack that with all his awards/his leadership and he’s top 10 easily
@optimisticjuann
@optimisticjuann 10 ай бұрын
I love you UNC but I got to agree with “LET ME FINISH!!” here 😂 Shaq has to be on that top 10 list. I’m sorry I’m not putting Bird ahead of Shaq. So if one got to go for me it would be Larry legend
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 2 жыл бұрын
And here's what I'm thinking: what's skip gonna say if Steph gets number 5? If Steph has 5, with the MVPs, the scoring titles, all that, I mean, there's gonna be talks that he'll surpass Magic. Then what? Also, you watch Steph Curry live, and let me tell you, Steph hits threes that make you feel just as helpless as shaq's physicality. I saw a game in Oracle against the sixers where Steph had 45, and deadass, he would hit a three over a double team, and both the guys guarding him would turn to their coach FURIOUS. Like, "what are we supposed to do with this? How could we possibly stop THAT?" I mean, c'mon, this is ridiculous. Steph literally just destroyed the Celtics! And he destroyed the Mavericks before that! I mean, heck, he swept the blazers in 2019 WITHOUT Kevin Durant!
@chhanky5216
@chhanky5216 2 жыл бұрын
Steph still get no love. They just turn a blind eye to greatness
@IceMicko
@IceMicko Жыл бұрын
And he managed to drop 3:1 lead while playing in the team that went 73:9 in RS.
@elijahsimms2992
@elijahsimms2992 Жыл бұрын
KD joined a team that was already gonna win the finals facts
@bjrowland25
@bjrowland25 Жыл бұрын
@@IceMicko my god that was in 2016 the man just redeemed himself this year proving he could be the lead guy and you’re still bringing this up. Every great player besides Jordan has had a disappointing finals performance but the great ones always bounce back and that’s what Steph did, give him some credit.
@IceMicko
@IceMicko Жыл бұрын
@@bjrowland25 MJ never hat that bad performance in 3 consecutive games at all, let alone 3 consecutive games in finals
@hr5935
@hr5935 2 жыл бұрын
2 small mistakes by Shannon- Steph is 34, not 32 and Curry is II not Jr
@kev792
@kev792 2 жыл бұрын
Wait. There’s a difference between the ll and a Jr.?
@hr5935
@hr5935 2 жыл бұрын
@@kev792 yep, Gary Payton II is on the warriors whereas Gary Payton jr isn’t
@DB-cg4vs
@DB-cg4vs 2 жыл бұрын
@@hr5935 feel good schooling dummies huh ?
@sedohema
@sedohema 2 жыл бұрын
@@kev792 it means exactly the same thing, exactly. It's a matter of preference
@kevinhickey8831
@kevinhickey8831 2 жыл бұрын
Jr means the second .
@Pacemasterx
@Pacemasterx 2 жыл бұрын
"wish that on me"🤣🤣🤣
@lonnavarro3643
@lonnavarro3643 2 жыл бұрын
1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Kareem 4. Rusell 5. Magic 6 Bird 7. Lebron 8. Shaq 9. Duncan 10. Curry 11. Wilt
@LionOverMamba
@LionOverMamba 2 жыл бұрын
Who wants to bet in this segment skip will say "It's unlike anything I've seen before"
@jflip31
@jflip31 2 жыл бұрын
Skip face when he said he bumped Shaq out 😂
@darylross934
@darylross934 Жыл бұрын
LeBron ain't even 9th. Skip actually showed him love
@MellowMelo7
@MellowMelo7 2 жыл бұрын
AND HES NOT DONE!!!!
@beazy3364
@beazy3364 2 жыл бұрын
Steph knocking Shaq out the top 10 is ridiculous. 3 FMVPS and 4 Rings, most dominant big man ever.
@AustriaJ
@AustriaJ 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@jlv3x
@jlv3x 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominant big man ever, the numbers tell you that. Shaq was great, but not as dominant as Wilt.
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlv3x Wilt did this in an era where he had no equal though. But one could say the same during his dominant run in the early 2000s
@phoenixplayz1581
@phoenixplayz1581 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlv3x The higher wilt scored the worse his team performed the less shot volume he had the more team success he had that should say enough
@stormcomilang869
@stormcomilang869 2 жыл бұрын
If he was a dominant player, how come he had to go team to teams to join good players to get him JUST four rings. If he was that a dominant player then he should have at least ten rings lmao
@moshamosha5897
@moshamosha5897 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest force ever.. rebounding 👑 scoring 👑 blocking 👑 greatest athlete ever.. strongest player ever.. he will always be top 5 !!!
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 2 жыл бұрын
🤡🤡
@asdfghjkl4384
@asdfghjkl4384 Жыл бұрын
Against plumbers 😂😂😂
@Merin512
@Merin512 Жыл бұрын
@@asdfghjkl4384 no against basketball players you clown. Only reason they had real jobs back then is because the game wasn't popular and in order to provide for their family they had to work as we as play and practice. Wilt played against the best players at the time and destroyed his competition. Calling them plumbers is so ignorant and disrespectful. Only reason bron and mj ain't plumbers is because of us fans giving them our money. Don't be a fool. If we all quit watching they'd be plumbers too. Wouldn't discredit how good they are. It's like small sports. Like axe throwing. Dudes are unbelievable at what they do but guess what they are plumbers because ain't no money in that sport. You a clown bro
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 Жыл бұрын
If u actually look at the average height back then, it was the same as it is now. The only difference is that players back then had less size due to nutrition and sports science not being as advanced as it is now. Wilt was on the same playing field in terms of access to training and nutrition. Yes he's a genetic freak, but he also worked alot harder than most of the nba players playing at the time. So you cant just say he "played against plumbers" stupid argument haha
@loudthebest7546
@loudthebest7546 Жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 sorry, you’re right. We forgot to add mailmen, ice cream truck drivers, and cashiers. Thank you Wilt for dominating the best era of basketball 🙏
@Jindsing
@Jindsing 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how he felt a need to list duncans accomplishments when reading his list.
@nehemiahrowley1976
@nehemiahrowley1976 Жыл бұрын
He is not done yet he finna have 7 when it's all said and done 💯🙌🤟🌏 SC 30💯
@wole1
@wole1 2 жыл бұрын
0:33 Skip's flabber was gasted lmaoo
@sabian8601
@sabian8601 4 ай бұрын
Skip is pure comedy. His face when he said "you bumped Shaquille O'Neal out of your top 10" LMFAOOOO
@rockii2324
@rockii2324 2 жыл бұрын
Lbj at 9th is crazy 🤣
@davodhashimi3809
@davodhashimi3809 2 жыл бұрын
He is nr 1
@masterl8740
@masterl8740 2 жыл бұрын
bron bron ditched his own city to pair up with a league top 3 NBA finals MVP to finally get his ring. This cowardly move alone excludes him from being on mt. rushmore. An opportunist should never be celebrated, it's bad for the sport
@sholovesholove4620
@sholovesholove4620 2 жыл бұрын
This is the funniest sports duo on tv!🤣🤣
@shequanmcnear5783
@shequanmcnear5783 Жыл бұрын
Need I remind what happened in the 2016 finals for games 567
@jonathanlockett5358
@jonathanlockett5358 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Shannon will call him a hater
@TeamDaemon1980
@TeamDaemon1980 2 жыл бұрын
Let's say Steph wins another MVP. He's +1300. That ties him with Magic, Larry, and Moses. Then he wins another ring and Finals MVP. Steph could leapfrog to top 5 next year! Hard to argue with that.
@eefdatalk
@eefdatalk 2 жыл бұрын
Durant won him 2 rings. Just how it hurt Durants legacy , it also hurts Curry.
@SB-wy1bm
@SB-wy1bm 2 жыл бұрын
@@eefdatalk kobe, bird, magic, kareem, duncan, shaq etc. all have titles in which another player outperformed them
@bradenhatton
@bradenhatton 2 жыл бұрын
jesus christ stop it
@munir9527
@munir9527 2 жыл бұрын
@@eefdatalk no he didn’t Go to Basketball reference for the series statistics
@Hi-vh5oj
@Hi-vh5oj 2 жыл бұрын
Yup if that happens he leaping passes Duncan , bird and wilt on my list if he achieve this
@deantrelladair5078
@deantrelladair5078 2 жыл бұрын
How the non player media always puts Kobe Bryant outside the top 5 is beyond me. Most who played the game give him proper respect, especially those who played against him.
@itsADmyguy
@itsADmyguy 2 жыл бұрын
He’s #4 on my list.
@alexmotts
@alexmotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hes not evem top 20 stop talking
@quintaviousanderson2897
@quintaviousanderson2897 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmotts Who not top 20
@deantrelladair5078
@deantrelladair5078 2 жыл бұрын
@@quintaviousanderson2897 an obvious troll, why even give him acknowledgment? His parents obviously did a terrible job raising him to have a brain wave above the level of a potato
@SLUGTHUG
@SLUGTHUG 2 жыл бұрын
@@quintaviousanderson2897 His mom clearly 😂
@koolkavelli7061
@koolkavelli7061 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe, MJ, Kareem, Majic, Wilt, Bird, Bron, Shaq, Russel, Wardell
@legendaryrelish7815
@legendaryrelish7815 2 жыл бұрын
1.Jordan. 2.Lebron. 3.Kareem. 4.Magic. 5.Duncan. 6.Kobe. 7.Wilt 8.Curry 9.Shaq 10.Bird
@Lonewolf_665
@Lonewolf_665 2 жыл бұрын
No
@markeady6796
@markeady6796 2 жыл бұрын
"Did you get into your Snoop stash?" LOL
@altair227
@altair227 8 ай бұрын
The ideal all time top 10 is this: 1-MJ 2-Kareem 3-Bill russell 4-Kobe Bryant 5-Lebron James 6-Wilt chamberlain 7-Shaq 8-Larry Bird 9-Magic Johnson 10-Hakeem Thats my opinion and ideal selection paying respect to all those guys.
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