Who had more help in their career: LeBron James or Michael Jordan? | NBA | UNDISPUTED

[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Will LeBron lead the Cavs to the finals?

[@illmuchi]

Yes he will make the finals. Lebron has taken his game to another level. The way he's playing it highly possible that he win his 4th ring this year.

[@bryanpotter3882]

Yes he will take the Cleveland Cavaliers to the NBA finals LeBron James is mvp

[@treyhall1984]

it's going to be tuff , Boston is not playing and they look hungry to. and btw Jordan had way more help than LeBron ever had.

[@marcmetrobuen9887]

Yes because no one on the east could stop him...

[@aviadam7101]

Yes and then lose in 6 to the warriors, there's jus not enough consistent help to beat the warriors

[@icyplatinum]

Steve Kerr has had the most help in NBA history

[@j.pipparker]

Ying Li bruh.. swea. Even as a coach

[@sandernista6499]

He is the common denominator in all instances... he might be the reason why all those guys had success 😂

[@j.pipparker]

@@sandernista6499 He's been known for clutch shots too. He's like a Kyrie Irving in a Mario Chalmers body

[@inombo]

Agree. Both as player and coach. Blessed white boy Steve!

[@jaz7119]

Or robert horry

[@rickyeldiablo800]

Skip: Jordan had no help, he carried the bulls Also Skip: The Bulls were loaded, easily the best team of all time

[@mrjones422]

The term you're looking for is "role players". Take Dennis Rodman for example. The man was one of the greatest rebounders and hustle players of all time. He was a hall of famer. Yet only average 7 Ppg for a career. He also never averaged even 1 block per game or one steal per game for a season his entire career. Yet was considered an elite defender, and won defensive player of the year 2 times, because he could get in the oppositions head and was good at taking charges. His impact on games could not be measured by stats alone. That is why the Bulls are still considered one of the best teams to ever do it. On the defensive side the Bulls teams were amazing. On the offensive end they basically had Jordan and Pippen with role players. A guy like Dennis' main role on the offensive end was to grab offensive rebounds.

[@BULSHYTT]

2 face lol

[@jazztravis6817]

Dude ✋ Stop

[@Mr.Matrix4056]

Lebron James carried numerous team's he's been on now he can play how he want for real lebron Lakers

[@millbillkillbill165]

Miami Heat and Lakers really look at that roster and you will know who had more help..

[@RatchetEffect]

Don't let Skip fool you, Scottie got hurt and only played 44 games in 98. That's why he didn't make the all star team

[@knicks8099]

exactly. skip and shannon talk about things with no regard for context

[@tyronemonsanto3090]

MJ never had a teammate avg more than 22 points in his career and hes won a title with his 2th best player avg 12 points a game

[@knicks8099]

@@tyronemonsanto3090 who? scottie pippen's points were only diminished because he played next to an all time great scorer. and don't even talk about 94-95. it looked like scottie held back a little, not playing to his fullest. pippen was the 4th selected player for the dream team, the previous being mj, bird and magic. the man almost became one of the few in history to ever win dpoy and mvp together. he was 3rd and 4th in 94 and 7th and 2nd in 95

[@tyronemonsanto3090]

@@knicks8099 Pippen was great with MJ and After MJ left in 98 he never again made in All star selection and Wade won a ring without Lebron and Bosh was an all star before he Join Lebron in Miami too

[@tyronemonsanto3090]

@@knicks8099 Bron played with 14 all stars and MJ played with 6 all star

[@loukaspappas8476]

I like how Shannon weighs in on Rodman for winning 2 DPOY awards BEFORE joining Jordan. I wonder if he keeps the same energy about the 3 time DPOY Dwight Howard who was part of Lebron's 2020 championship team

[@jeremykrause153]

I think Rodman did more on the bulls than Howard did for the lakers tho.

[@loukaspappas8476]

@@jeremykrause153 probably. But my point is, there’s no reason to mention their past achievements in a “who had more help” debate. It’s what they did during their years with Jordan/LeBron that matters.

[@jeremykrause153]

@@loukaspappas8476 I agree

[@RoyallKing629]

Good point. Ima use that on my next argument with my friend 😂

[@anonymousk1634]

Lebron has had way more help and always begs for more help

[@subtletiger]

Skip is teaching me how to listen to my wife as she yells at me: "mm..hmm...yeah...hm..ok..yep...mm.."

[@kingofkingz235]

😂😂😂

[@tonycorbin506]

Lmfao 🤣😂🤣

[@rebelwood1122]

I love it

[@notting2640]

'....mmhm interesting...'

[@complete1699]

lmao

[@CDX7]

Sports debate shows are a great example of how you can find or twist statistics to create any narrative.

[@jamesdjl4359]

Absolutely. But, it shows that stats aren't everything. It's not all about analytics. You have to produce. You have to win. You cant just build up amazing stats and get the same level of appreciation. That's not a slight at any particular player. But, I think the media makes analytics the entire arguement sometimes. When it shouldn't be.

[@SuperstarDJSupreme]

Well said

[@RevanLaughs]

CDH Imagine how much politicians twist statistics to fit their narrative

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

Pretty much Skip's career. Reduce the argument down to a single data point and make it everything. He's worthless.

[@edccs1029]

@@JonSmith-hk1bq 💯 FACTS

[@orlandoz8844]

I love Jordan but don’t disrespect Pippen, he is an amazing player

[@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork]

Orlando Z88 I’m get’n sick of that $h!t, was second in MVP the year Jordan left

[@MINK2393]

Cashflo Digital Sports Network - CDSN He was 3rd... The same way y’all Lebron fans disrespect Wade (who was better than Pippen)... Disrespect Kyrie who averaged damn near 30 in back to back finals... Disrespect Bosh, Ray Allen, and Love.... Stop it.. Pippen is a top 50 player of al time and a HOF but only because Jordan made him that... He was trash when he first came to the Bulls and wouldn’t have been a HOF and top 50 player without Jordan... Wade was already a HOF and established player without Lebron

[@Rivs5117]

MINK FACTS!!! Wade proved he could win without LeBron. Pippen couldn’t win without MJ at all.

[@MINK2393]

Bruce Rivers Facts Wade was a finals mvp, and a NBA champion way without Lebron.. Pippen isn’t winning a ring without Jordan

[@Rivs5117]

MINK 💯

[@kajenkirubah1228]

The thing with Jordan was that he did make a lot of those players better. He was super strict with everyone on the team, as much as he was on himself, and the players trained like they were maniacs because Jordan was a real psycho, breathing down their necks. Of course, a few of the players didn't need that motivation, they were already super tough and played hard. But Dennis Rodman, and Scottie Pippen, Steve Kerr, they all were whipped by jordan.

[@gdiggedy9]

And Lebron never pushed any of his teammates. He either had them traded away or he left.

[@kevinclark-cn2mf]

@@gdiggedy9 Good luck trying to push Love and Irving, Jordan would have put them both in the insane asylum.

[@jamesburgess2k]

Its funny how most of these MJ fans underrate Scottie so much.

[@dmac5472]

James Burgess and it hurts me as a Bulls fan who had Scottie as my fave player..nobody wanna respect how good he was.

[@sonnyhensen4263]

James Burgess it's funny how bronsexuals think pippen was that dude. When he wasn't, pippen couldn't shoot and couldn't score in the clutch. He went to central Arkansas lol

[@ss4gogeta05]

It’s funny how LeBron fans overrate Scottie so much. Jordan made Pippen look like one of the all time greats. Pippen only averaged 20 points or more twice in his career with Jordan. When LeBron has that for his best teammate people act like LeBron has no help.

[@antdog8286]

Scottie better than Kobe....

[@SwiperNoSwiping458]

When MJ left the bulls they went from a 57 win team to a 55 win team. When LeBron left Miami they didn't make the playoffs. Anyone who would take the Miami team over the 95 Bulls is crazy. You're talking about 72 win team with Pippen and Rodman.

[@flagrantsake]

scottie pippen wasnt an allstar in 98 because he was injured and only played 44 games and didnt start his season until january... the allstar game was in Febuary. He played 14 games before the allstar game. He was still third in voting among forwards with 475000 votes

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

Rayray Schnapps Scottie had two seasons averaged 20 ppg Lol

[@joshuasantore6903]

@@JohnConroy. lebron durant curry ad harden giannis kawhi kyrie embid westbrook cousins lillard... etc etc

[@CodeezyFBaby]

Bump N Dump I know you didn’t seriously type “Draymond is probably top 10 or 15” smh but I do see and agree with your point

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

ufster81 wanna know how good Dwayne Wade was without Lebron ? Won finals mvp averaging 33 ppg Lol

[@CatoProduction]

Benjamin Franklin this was before lebron got there wtf. 😭 After bron left wat happened to dwade?

[@islamerica3032]

Skip lies when he says that no player was an all star before they joined Jordan because Rodman was in 1990.

[@kaankoksal1412]

Cowardly Lions Only reason Pippen wasn’t one is because he was injured. He had played 14 games before the voting and STILL came in 3rd.

[@jeremydalton2509]

@Dats a paddlin In 92-93 with Jordan, Pippen averaged 18.6 ppg and in 93-94 without Jordan, Pippen increased his ppg a whopping 3.4 ppg to 22 ppg. Yea, it looks like Jordan was a ball hog lmao.

[@kylekylelam2757]

Exposed!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@kevinjackson9573]

@Dats a paddlin bj was never an all-star and LBJ played with players batter than Pippen namely Wade and Kyrie

[@dudelittle147]

Kevin Jackson lebron goat

[@donaldanderson6408]

This debate didn't age well Lebron James had way more help than MJ Uncle shannon

[@shubhamkumarmishra3942]

Lmao you mad bruh?

[@wazemo2764]

@@shubhamkumarmishra3942 how is he mad?

[@dynamic6645]

Explain why LeBron has more help ? because *"he played with more all stars"* right ? what a dumb take, awards are media voted, a player's on court production, impact, physical abilites on court are what they actually are without an award, an award does not change what the player did or caused on the court.

[@kushalmehta2667]

Seems like this kid was born yesterday. Try watching some other sport coz basketball aint for u

[@tyresesealey8337]

LeBron needs the help because 1 he's getting old and 2 there are other super teams in the league so for him to actually have a chance to win he has to get help

[@ragenstorm6464]

Bill Cartwright, Luc longely, Bill Wennington ect...These are the guys Jordan had back when the NBA was a CENTER dominated league. Against guys like David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Alonzo Morning, Shaquille Oneal, Patrick Ewing, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Rick Smits...need i go on? Come on. These were different era's. Jordan performed when hand-checking and centers were critical and Jordan never had ONE great one.

[@sroland3533]

Open Up their Eyes for me with some Common Sense Plz ... I Thank You

[@meexamillion2386]

The bulls other than mj pip, wouldn't be able to get on an nba floor. Hands down lebron has had more help. Jordan never jumped ship or ever recruited players. Worst player bron ever had I'm thinking deliadova, but he better than...Dickie simpkins member him....off topic that's why I think warriors would beat the bulls. Bulls would barely beat the Cavs. Only because of Jordan's greatness.

[@joshuamoore1300]

Ragen Storm now put four of those guys together and that’s who lebrons playing against

[@MozTheBoz]

@oj lott He had Orlando Woolridge back then he's a decent center.

[@cuedoyle918]

Soo now Shannon is knocking Jordan for staying with his team.. Than LeBron for bouncing team to team..

[@sigmundsanders8064]

Cue Doyle mike went to Washington

[@cuedoyle918]

@@sigmundsanders8064.. He was part owner of the team.. Him playing was about money.. Reason number one is here donated his salary from playing to the families of 9/11 victims.. Number 2 Washington wasn't selling it any games.. What better way to fill the seat than having Micheal freaking Jordan on your team?? Then he needed to groom his young team.. And from ages 38 - 40 put up 20pts 6rebs 6ast.. #GOAT

[@notmeagain4872]

Cue Doyle there was no reason for Jordan to live his team tho🤦🏾‍♂️ he had great and healthy players

[@altair227]

@AgooD Avgguy​ AgooD Avgguy all this sentences you wrote fell short and invalid because of one thing MJ left they didn't win any rings in 1994&1995 the GOAT returned they won another 3peat yeah kiddo your HOF with their GOAT couch phil Jackson FAILED to win Sh*t without MJ defeat that kiddo.

[@shaunphillips3236]

@AgooD Avgguy ur ignorance is laughable #FACTS smfh. U said that the OWNER brought the best?!!!!! 🤫😱🤣😂. Reinsdorf gave control of all basketball decisions to Krause. He's been documented SEVERAL times as saying that. Krause was NOTORIOUS for being cheap. Phil Jackson was a ROOKIE head coach before coaching CHI, he took over for Doug Collins. U mentioned organizations win chips but how many chips has CHI won since MJ left with Krause? 0! The triangle was successful because of MJ & players like MJ, see Kobe Bryant. It's about space, angles & ball movement. U know NOTHING ABOUT NBA BASKETBALL

[@Pa1zan]

Michael Jordan averaged 28 points in his rookie year bruh

[@islandchief2572]

pramey tripathi with checks

[@dahc0023]

He was literally playing against mail men and truck drivers😂 let’s be real on his level of competition

[@Jon155mt]

@@dahc0023 So a prime Larry Bird was a mail man? Yeah, you don't know basketball 🤣🤣🤣

[@zroxmolejon6278]

@@dahc0023 kids today like karl malone is a plumber ahhahhahah like they are there when had played

[@dahc0023]

Jon155 you literally named one player lmao. Any person with half a brain could see how the game has evolved from the late 80s early 90s MJ was one in like less than 10 people with decent agility and athleticism

[@laythadrian5705]

Jordan was surrounded by great players because he made his teammates better. Look at Pippen when he first entered the league vs Pippen when the Bulls won their second championship. Scottie Pippen deserves all the respect in the world as an NBA legend, but don't tell me he didn't become a better player by being alongside Jordan.

[@bilalamarumosi8282]

Jordan didn't make anybody better. If he did, then how

[@davidwichman2216]

Pippen became good with Jordan. Wade was already good

[@danieal46]

KYRIE BECAME GOOD WHEN LBJ CAME BACK & HE HELPED HIM BECOME AN ALLSTAR!

[@dentoncrenshaw6773]

MJ lost in the first round 3 times in a row before pippin came

[@DRWRITER08]

Thassa Flex pippen wasn’t an all star the moment he came in. It took a couple years . MJ molded him. MJ is the goat still regardless

[@DonkeyKong5479]

Thassa Flex LeBron couldn’t make the playoffs until Larry Hughes showed up

[@TheAlexJimenez]

DEE~LYTE hope. He was already good. Lebron wouldn’t have came back if not. He was already averaging 20 and had the most buzzer beaters. You can’t name any star that played better with lebron.

[@juanfelipe8484]

It’s official, Shannon is more entertaining than skiuuuuup

[@jcsjay]

Juan Felipe lmao. He's ALWAYS been more entertaining. Don't agree with the LeBron meat chewing but i get it. It's for the show.

[@ayog8846]

Where you been at???

[@elka555]

Juan Felipe skip is more accurate though...

[@HoodReportTV]

Skip was the weakest link on First Take also

[@david77steele]

Juan Felipe he is, but his argument was off track and weak on this one. He's awesome, just not in this topic.

[@UltraxInstinct]

Skip dodges more questions thats in Lebron favor than Ive ever seen before. He just answers a question with a question lol

[@hershelpogue1745]

finesse laflare ... No Skip Bayless answer the fantasy the Shannon Sharpe is having about Jordan more help than LaBaby is. LaBaby had 14 all-stars. Vs Jordan six.

[@UltraxInstinct]

hershel pogue You just made entirely no sense. But okay.

[@UltraxInstinct]

hershel pogue Lebron never had a good team for more than 4yrs Jordan his whole career

[@the54th34]

finesse laflare Whole career? LOL You're showing your age here 😂

[@hulkdaddy71]

Here's the kick in the nuts.....Jordan lead the Bulls to a chip, with Dennis Hopson, Craig Hodges, Cliff Livingston, Bill Cartwright, Will Perdue, and Stacey King.

[@toptenguy1]

Fun fact. This just popped up on my recommendations nearly 3 years later in 2021.. AND I SWEAR TO GOD, at first I thought it was a 2021 topic. BECAUSE THEY ARE OBSESSED WITH TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING DAILY LOL

[@maddrone7814]

Recommended to me in 2024. I’ll take this back over what we have now

[@anonymousk1634]

Media wants to push the Lebron agenda that’s why! Jordan doesnt even play so why bring his name up

[@emanuelefavero]

Skip is not good at arguing with Shannon. When Shannon said: "of all all stars that have played with LeBron, name one who had better defense than Scottie Pippen." Well, the same argument could be done for the opposite side of the court, of all all stars that played with MJ name one better at scoring than DWade and Kyrie!

[@TheDudeAbides1998]

Chris Faux- Skip doesn't even have to say anything. Lebron played with way more all stars and we know Shannon loves to shine Lebron's scepter. Bronsexuals don't want to bring up the stat sheets.

[@ryanr20091]

scoring is only one facet of the game . jordan did the scoring while teammates did the rest so you can say lebron had more jobs to do . one could make the argument that jordan teammates did more him than james teammates did. Lebron lead in all major statistical categories . now imagine if all lebron had to do was score wouldn't that be alot easier

[@TheDudeAbides1998]

ryanr20091, Lebron is BARELY a better rebounder and getting assist than MJ or Kobe- so much doing for so much more. Lebron doesn't know how to play with others. Doesn't know how to memorize plays or play without the ball. Lebron is great with guys that can space the floor. Imagine him without those sharp shooters? I remember the 2007 finals.

[@mrROFLsauce1]

EmperorJBO bringing up Kobe means you’re argument is null and void. Kobes not even a top 10 player.

[@The-Heart-Will-Testify]

JBerta kobe is better than lebron. Thats why USA team begged kobe to save them from losing to Spain and Argentina lol

[@joeschmo2752]

all star is a fan vote...chris kaman was an all star

[@natedablack7857]

Actually, coaches are given a vote as well.

[@isaiaharmand9901]

Cause chris Kaman was acutally decent

[@Carefreeblues]

Kaman was legit that year.

[@michaelgomes6658]

He probably Kaman his pants when he made All-Star

[@iSammie2]

M Gomes lmaoooo

[@TyrantT316]

While Skip is forever hating Lebron...I think it's different as Lebron had multiple sets of great supporting casts while Jordan had a more consistent set of help... but isn't this a team sport? They're talking as if it is a bad thing that a standout player had a good supporting cast

[@lukeyost7566]

TyrantT316 thank you...

[@waltjones6927]

Unfortunately Common sense isnt common...W for you tho cuz u right...

[@thegreatone9850]

First 3 peat he only had pippen LeBron oh sorry never 3 peated GTFOH!

[@bobbyd6097]

Lebron has had more all star talented players supporting him on and off his career, but Mj did have longer lasting support from Scottie and Phil. Then factor that players like Horace Grant and Scottie were 7ppg rookies, MJ helped develop them. There's multiple factors to this.

[@shamariopatterson1354]

TyrantT316 I don't blame skip Shannon is an Idiot.

[@jeremytucker8853]

Shannon is missing something. The Bulls winning 55 wins were residuals from being a championship team. What happened the following year? They weren't even in the playoff run. They were about to miss the playoffs. How do you fall off that far WITH PIPPEN if he was such a great player? MJ came back and led them to the playoffs and 3 more championships.

[@mikecoleman7097]

Duh, because You lose Horace Grant (all-star) to the magic. You lose Cartwright to Seattle. Jon Paxson retires. Pip was 1st in Def Eff and 2nd in def winshares. He was phenomenal

[@4sng4sng62]

The truth is the 1st 3peat bulls were extremely overpowered nobody won more than 2 games against them except knicks 1 year lol

[@sethe6]

You could use this same argument for lebron but tenfold because directly after he leaves the team utterly falls apart

[@Wyndamn]

@@sethe6 no lies detected here 👍👍👍

[@MrBarberboy42]

Pippen got farther on his own with the Bulls then Michael did on his own.

[@isaacrussell5844]

In Game 1 of the Lakers Finals, MJ went for 36/8/12 on 58% shooting. I'll take that over Magic's 19/10/11.

[@kevinburke6055]

Isaac Russell 19 points? The way Shannon was talking it felt like he put up 35.

[@isaacrussell5844]

@@kevinburke6055 Exactly, 19 poiints, 10 boards, 11 assists. Shannon acts like MJ didn't show out. He also had 3 steals that game. Ended the series 31 points, 6.6 boards, 11.4 assists, 2.8 steals, 1.4 blocks on 55%. All that in a more physical, less floor space era. Just the GOAT.

[@isaacrussell5844]

@@demontiakpinkney5881 And Magic won 5 to Jordan's 6, but that's not the issue. Plus, in Game 6, after Pippen was put on Magic, Magic had 16 points, 20 assists, and 11 rebounds. So, he dropped bigger tripple-double on Pippen.

[@isaacrussell5844]

I think you are wrong, but importantly, you are responding to an argument I didn't make. I was talking about the 1991 Finals and Pippen guarding Magic...

[@theantandthebull]

To be honest the 2 year break enabled MJ not to wear down and continue his dominance

[@ericappiah-kubi6269]

These Jordan LeBron debates are actually boring now

[@bballlife8126]

Eric Appiah-Kubi yea they reaching hard for lebron lol coming up with crazy stuff man

[@brandoonf6962]

agree.

[@DonkeyKong5479]

“hEz MoRe VeRzAtILe aNd cAn dO mOrE” according to Bronsexuals bring a slightly better rebounder and racking up a few more assists makes you more well rounded lol might as well include Westbrook and Draymond in the convo while we’re at it

[@russell9411]

Legendaryhype reaching? I mean if Jordan was good enough get to finals he wouldn't be 6-0 in finals. LeBron made finals at age 22

[@mikemoggerson6651]

Andrew Blackop You're not very smart, are you? I'm not a Lebron fan, but "racking up a few more assists lol". Lebron is literally 100x the passer Jordan was. You can't even compare their playmaking skills. And yes, Lebron is the far more versatile player.

[@noahfym4439]

before every argument they both always say "okay hold on, help me out here" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@juicesquad5616]

😂😂😂😭💀

[@marcowens3522]

🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@warbackfire6509]

☠️

[@bradymangrum2167]

People always talk about how Jordan's team was loaded and how he always had the best players. When MJ came out of retirement the Bulls record was 34-31, they won 13 of their next 17 regular-season games to finish 47-35. The following year they went 72-10... Who really elevated that team... because it wasn't Pippen.

[@dynamic6645]

Except the fact that the bulls also added dennis rodman.

[@amadoubah9176]

@@dynamic6645 expect the fact the won 3 before he got theee

[@lilscotty7116]

@@amadoubah91760 before pippen 🤷🏾‍♂️ pippen lead them ecsf game 7 came 2 mvp when jordan was force out the league

[@jboogbush2010]

put jordan on that miami team with wade and bosh and they sweep dallas....and word to the wise Jordan didnt have to leave the bulls to "learn" to be a champion

[@cypher787]

no because jordans front office didnt give him such amazing talents as zydrunas ilgauskas mo williams anderson varejo delonte west and the shells of antawn jameson and shaq like lebron had to deal with. they drafted and signed talent which is something the cavs front office is completely incapable of doing they lucked out on lebron and kyrie theyve been trash at drafting anyone else

[@ayeballinski320]

jboogbush2010 put jordan pn that cleveland team that beat the warriors and they lose, jordan might've lost against the spurs too

[@johnsmithjohn1314]

jboogbush2010 LeBron James went to the league after high school. Jordan couldn't make varsity. LeBron is still relevant in his 15th season. Jordan was washed up by his 15th season. LeBron at 15 years old would destroy a 15 year old Jordan. God made LeBron to play basketball.

[@johnsmithjohn1314]

samuel moore Durant jumped on the golden state bandwagon. I respect his shot, it's more accurate than LeBron shot. I never seen a high school player as talented, or be as successful in the league. Jordan NEVER played a team like golden state with Durant.

[@johnsmithjohn1314]

samuel moore If that happens curry will have 5 but he isn't better than LeBron. Rings ain't everything.

[@jont5800]

They are missing the point of today’s top NBA teams consist of multiple All Star players. Having more than one All Star on a team during the Jordan era was considered rare because All Star players would not recruit other All Stars to produce a super team.

[@nadavoneplus7568]

Jon T Lebron did it when he moved to miami. He couldnt win teams so he moved to a superteam with 3 all stars and great veterans.

[@nightdonutstudio]

Good points. Nowadays most top teams has more than two all stars. So it is harder to beat other top teams with only 1 or 2 all stars.

[@wallogodly9511]

Nadav Oneplus no no he help form the superteam

[@jont5800]

Kohlabear Plays There was a superteam in Boston that gave the Cavs trouble in years prior to Lebron moving to the Heat.

[@douglassgarvey653]

MJ's era there were many super teams and many teams with at least 2 all stars on them.

[@RicoRamone09]

When MJ left, Scottie loss in the semifinals and the next year was on the verge of missing the playoffs until MJ came back. DWade is a scoring champion and Finals MVP before Bron got to Miami. He beat Dirk without Bron and Bosh but loss in 2011 in 6 because Bron choked. Wade would've won another Finals MVP and be a 4 time NBA Champion

[@mikekirkland2487]

Preach brotha preach!

[@Supermariohoops24]

People never acknowledge the 2015 Heat were injured too. Bosh and Wade each missed over half the year. Next year, 2016, Bosh was hurt again but Wade was healthy. And they got just as far as those 1994 Bulls are. So that argument about Bulls are just as good without MJ is the same for LeBron and Miami

[@Juntao1989]

Supermariohoops24 EXACTLY

[@anthonyhooper2270]

You realize he was a call away from going to the finals that was a bogus call on scottie pippen kyrie couldn't take the Cavs far with out bron wade couldn't carry his team when everyone left and he had a team like lebron James he had problems with Dan Gilbert and delonte west and they wouldn't get him help

[@Juntao1989]

Anthony Hooper so when did the eastern conference semis become one game away from nba finals? Stop LYING they played knicks in 2nd round... Also, They were only 34-31 THE NEXT YEAR in danger of missing playoffs and MJ CAME BACK out of retirement to help them go 13-4 in the last 17 games of the season. Why don’t you bring that second season without Jordan up??

[@moorekeicephillips]

Michael Jordan never played with another player who demanded a double team, that pretty ends this debate.

[@kingralo5954]

Not really

[@BOSSBOSS-kh3rz]

Lebron got outplayed and shut down by Shawn Marion and J. J. Barea

[@PearlJamGuy10]

MilitaryPcGamer win a 3-peat, win two 3-peats, win two 3-peats with entirely different team rosters other than the only other player to average double figures in the finals, own 42 playoff records, score in double figures in every playoff and finals game appearance, lead the league in more than one category, win all 3 mvp awards in one season (all star, regular season and finals), score in double figures in more than 1,000 consecutive games (LeBron's streak is currently in the 300s), i could go on but there's no way two time bronze medallist LeBron James can ever catch MJ. He's already played in 55 more finals games! If he hasn't caught him by now then he never will

[@BOSSBOSS-kh3rz]

MilitaryPcGamer Lebron is not mentally tougher in bigger games. Lebron never played against real 7 footers or dunked on any.. Michael did. Kyrie and the refs, and green being suspended beat the warriors

[@BOSSBOSS-kh3rz]

Ronnie Branford 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ALL FACTS

[@Wecanrecoveryourhome]

Rich Boss Nick Anderson outplayed Michael Jordan and Made him change his number from 45 to 23

[@Wecanrecoveryourhome]

BJ Armstrong , Horace Grant ,Scottie made the Allstar game in 1994

[@FlyHy89]

Jordan would never allow Jason Terry to out play him

[@xonre2]

Lebron did tho

[@MrIncredibleGuy]

Facts. This debate should have ended after the 2011 finals.

[@ravenpanganibanlim8170]

How bout mj's first round exits? Why did he allowed it dude can u explain pls. And fyi he is wt teammates who score 20 plus points. Explain pls sir

[@MrIncredibleGuy]

Raven Panganiban Lim He was missing Pippen, once Pippen joined it was a wrap.

[@ravenpanganibanlim8170]

@Adidas Man44 lol and consider that era too. Midrange scoring that era is so easy and im saying players now have more competition than tha oldschool era.

[@JoeyShakedown]

Jordan played 2 years with Charles Oakley to start his career....Shannon talking like he had Oakley for a decade lol

[@deandreray3500]

Joe Isa Oakley was a defensive force to protect young jordan he was a liability on offense he was decent

[@rumham7631]

Ok and? Skip saying lebron played with 14 allstars and jordan played with 6 is misleading because jordan played with the same dudes forever. It’s like saying someone missed more free throws when they have 2000 more attempts than the other player; it’s disingenuous and a false equivalency.

[@patrickmontie9583]

That’s easy, it was LeBron. He played with at least 15 all stars, 15 Olympian, had over 100 trades to help his team. MJ never cried for help. Scottie was coming off the bench MJs first chip.

[@anonymousk1634]

Preach

[@londonrd]

When Michael left the bulls, they knew he was leaving and retooled. Added Rodman, Tony K, Steve Kurr. In that time frame. The Cavs had no clue Lebron was leaving. Secondly Dwade is arguably the 3rd best shooting guard ever. Jordan, Kobe then Wade. Pippen at best is 6th. Lebron, Bird, baylor, durant, Erving then Pippen. Lastly Shannon brings up that Pippen was 3rd runner up for mvp without mj.........Wade SHOULDVE WON MVP 2009. The year before Lebron got there. Averaged more points assists and had close rebound numbers while averaging more blocks and steals than lebron, he was also the only guard since Jordan to get over 80 blocks and 150 steals. Resepct Wade

[@user-pu3cf9pd2m]

Arguably the 3rd best shooting guard? There's no argument, he is already #3.

[@jlphotos09]

The issue is that no one likes to bring up wade was no longer in his prime after that 2011 season. Knee issues really got to him and played a little over half the season. Bosh was turned into a shell of his former baby dinosaur days when he was an easy 20 and 10 a night player.

[@bballlife8126]

londonrd yea wade won scoring title that year too. He’s my favorite player after Jordan just because I had a playing style like his and I like how he could take over games and compete in his prime. He still competes just on backside of career now

[@bballlife8126]

John Lee yea but even if that’s the case they lost to one of the weakest finals teams lebron faced in their prime together. No excuse for that!

[@bballlife8126]

Bitcoin is LIT not in 2011 or 2012. Wade avg 22 a game in playoffs 11 & 12. How is that a shell when pippen avg under 20 points in couple of bulls playoff championship years??

[@proffesorsk9080]

Its like skip intentionally made this question and put it on 🤣🤣

[@Killcommies]

Tristen Vro 😂😂😂

[@Killcommies]

Tristen Vro at 0:08-0:09 it sounds like Shannon says it’s lebron😂😂😂

[@stonelove9048]

Yep, he frying Leshannon

[@proffesorsk9080]

Stone Love wrong

[@GODEXAULTS]

Lol yup cuz shannon really had no argument here. Lebron has had multiple allstars for most of his career

[@manolopeguero4305]

Shannon just can't admit he lost the argument. You can see him overreaching at the end when called Dennis Rodman a top 50 player. He wasn't a top 50 player and joined the bulls at 34 years old. To many excuses for lebron

[@tehutibrim594]

Rodman should be a top 50 player

[@manolopeguero4305]

@@tehutibrim594 Actually Dominique Wilkins suppose to be a top 50

[@tehutibrim594]

@@manolopeguero4305 yup #facts

[@rgood1204]

Still top rebounder and all defensive player because he didn't have to score.

[@manolopeguero4305]

@@rgood1204He sure is Rodman was a freak of nature. But Dominique was more valuable than Rodman and wasn't included in top 50 all time. Anyways back to real point is Jordan didn't have to move from team to team because he made his players around him great

[@robertofranciscor.beltran5588]

It's amazing how Shannon revises NBA History with a straight face lol.

[@robertofranciscor.beltran5588]

@Pure Shooter Cherry picking semantics lol.

[@TouchdownTamagotchi]

They have to cherry pick history to try to make a argument for LeBron lol

[@stopplzs]

@John Kavanagh it’s not his fault his two all stars didn’t show up in 2014. It was literally LeBron vs the spurs. MJ quit on his team twice because he was scared of playing outside of Phil’s system. We’d view his career a lot different if he didn’t retire prematurely twice

[@aaronrooks2703]

@@stopplzs When did Jordan quit on his team

[@stopplzs]

@@aaronrooks2703 when he retired twice

[@troy9351]

Skip's all star argument is a stretched. All star voting doesn't translate to greatness. Say hi to Kaiman, Jameer Nelson, Mo Wiliams to say a few.

[@SamM-kh2vd]

But in the case of Wade, bosh, love, Kyrie to say a few does translate to greatness lol

[@juanrosas2501]

@@SamM-kh2vd amen🙏

[@jameswarudo5141]

Sameer Mehta and Kevin Love

[@huh8896]

James Nwachukwu reread his comment fam

[@carterbilbro4615]

Sameer Mehta eh they were all on the tail end except Kyrie, who would’ve won b2b ships with Lebron if he didn’t get hurt

[@peat381low8]

Don’t forget Dennis Rodman. And Young Charles Oakley in 86’

[@Amick44]

Very good role players. Only Scottie was a true star.

[@kennybrown2699]

Harper all defense as well...smh and kokoc ain't no slouch

[@allanhouston6759]

RODMAN was old, good only in the 1996 Playoffs. But in the 1997 and 1998 Playoffs, he was terrible. Prime RODMAN played vs MJ. 1997 Playoffs: RODMAN = 4-ppg FG-37% and 8-RPG. 1998 Playoffs: RODMAN = 5-ppg FG-37% and 12-RPG.

[@TheLuscious]

Oakley was traded over Jordan’s objections

[@davissmith7525]

Oakley made one all star when he was a knick Bosh made 5 time all star, kevin love 5 all stars, Rodman 2 none of them with the bulls mmmm I could go on and on son

[@SlickGriminals]

Remember when mo Williams was an all star? The all star title is a little overrated.

[@bradenboudreau4020]

Mark Scarlet yeah I know I remember a year when Zaza Pachulia almost got voted in.

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

Shrek Is A Baller let me guess, that finals mvp wade got was also overrated. Without Lebron wade was a role player right ? Scottie and Horace Grant on the other hand were bench players when they joined the bulls lol

[@bballah4lyfe]

Mo William's was a great piece. Catch and shoot on the moneyyy! Above average defender and excellent at moving off the ball for lebron to pile his assists with. that's why lebrons passing to the 3 ball is 7 times more than mjs. Mj got his assists with giving the ball to mid range players and feeding the post off of broken defense. Way more skilled. MJ = Goat

[@HakeemOlajuwon-eq9xf]

Mark Scarlet that’s a very good point. I thought it was a dumb argument they were making to begin with on all star appearances. On the flip side, dennis Rodman has 2-all star appearances and is hall of famer. He hardly ever got voted in because fans hated him. So yeah, all-star appearances is a flawed argument.

[@bballah4lyfe]

If you think about it, every award is overrated. Every stat is overrated. That's why the eye test is the best way to define a player. Lebron played in the east. Playing in the garbage east helped him lead his team to more wins and allow him to be in the MVP conversation. Lebron would have missed the playoffs 4 times in his career, had he played in the west. And would have had only 3 finals appearances at best

[@frankwyabruh8263]

Lmao, Shannon cant belive what hes talking about himself 😂😂

[@dominiquejones3805]

Lbj monopolized the East with Wade who would of been Finals MVP 2011 if they won add Bosh. AD, Love and Irving yo it's not even close whose had more help

[@smoove2432]

Is this even a question..... LeBron was apart of teams with 1/4 of the Eastern Conference all stars for 8 years while nobody else in the conference had 3 stars. Not 1 team

[@thebsexpress4264]

2014/2015 heat basically had the same team that they had on there finals run (minus Lebron). They won 37 games missed the playoffs. Before Lebron comes back to clevland kyrie lead the cavs to a whopping 33 wins. With Lebron these teams aren’t even making playoffs let alone finals..... pippen brought the bulls to 55 wins and the playoffs. Oh and 6 straight for Jordan is bull.... 1995 he was eliminated in 6 games by the magic in eastern conference semis..... oh and let’s not forget his clutch 1 point in the 4th quarter of the elimination game

[@smoove2432]

theBSexpress First of all Lebron leaves with no warning so teams dont have a chance to prepare after they tailor made a roster full of spot up shooters just for him. Wade played 52 games while Bosh played 44. They shut them both down with the blood clots and knees. And Lebron himself couldnt even make the playoffs til year 3 in Cleveland so why we expecting Kyrie too 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@kaepler]

theBSexpress yeah but the fact is LeBron is great in today’s game but you cannot argue Jordan being 6-0 in the finals. Well the NBA finals the hype of the crowd clutch moments. Respect Jordan being the Goat and LeBron being the king

[@CustomFitted]

I'm weak af @ Shannon tryna throw Charles Oakley on there 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Abbad1579]

Charles Oakley wasn't even making those all-defense teams when he played on the bulls. Shannon should be banned from talking about LeBrick.

[@CustomFitted]

@@Abbad1579 It was ridiculous he really tried to slide Oakley in there lmao

[@jaredfinley4986]

oaks the man . brought fear to all opposed him

[@MalofrmdaO]

😂

[@lph_802]

@@CustomFitted but when people bring up lebron on the cavs, they bring up he had shaq? and don’t mention that he was old and out of shape. but when it’s jordan he gets a pass. interesting how the narrative changes

[@UltraxInstinct]

Michael made Scottie? Really Skip thats your argument?

[@fareedmohammed7556]

The only argument that matters

[@UltraxInstinct]

Fareed Mohammed You're just as crazy as Skip. All star appearances dont determine how great you are.

[@TheGoodShepard31]

He did 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@iwitness4107]

But he did though

[@WTOxBCVbby]

Are you really arguing that Michael had more help than LeBron😂😂😂

[@ronaldrobert665]

Didnt Lebron have Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen,arguably the 3rd best 3point shooter in NBA history and in Cleveland didnt he have Love and Kyrie And jus curious doesnt Lebron play the PG role besides for Rodman and Pippen who else did he have the difference was MJ had role players that knew there role

[@johnjoshtvofficial7633]

Shannon can’t even mention DWade and his achievements and he keeps avoiding the 2011 Finals and saying The Mavs swept LA and Kobe shrink LOL D Wade was a proven player when Lebron played with him Scottie is a superstar yes but Wade has the better numbers

[@thrawncaedusl717]

The Golden Boy I’m late to the party, but I have always thought that Wade and Kobe were closer than a lot of people think. Kobe was a better shooter, but Wade’s handles and finishing ability was all-time great.

[@jigglyjuice7907]

LeBron played with an old dwade prime dwade was from 2006 to 2008

[@johnjoshtvofficial7633]

Jiggly Juice you sure? LOL have you seen D Wade in 2011-2013? LOL

[@jigglyjuice7907]

@@johnjoshtvofficial7633 wade was good but LeBron joined wade pretty late

[@vyshak4455]

Though he was old, how could no one mention how Ray Allen made that three to save Lebron? Or how he was averaging 17 points per game in the 2011 finals, while Bosh was averaging 18 points per game and D Wade 27 points per game? Michael Jordan, at least I dont think had anyone on his team that outplayed him in a series like that? Have you ever seen Michael Jordan choke in a playoff series and Scottie Pippen just completely outplay him and carry him to six games. The Heat lost that year but try to understand what I'm saying.

[@bryantrinh7482]

Vyshakh Vathielil the argument of “he was saved by his teammate” is so dumb. Lebron got them there, Ray Allen made a big shot. Do you remember Paxon “saving” Jordan? How many big shots has Steve Kerr hit? How about when meta world peace “saved” kobe in game 7.

[@joshuamartinez9067]

But you fail to acknowledge the fact that dallas plaid a damn good series to beat miami. Skip got owned by mark cuban over this. They played zone defense which limited lebrons play. That made other players,not lebron, to take shots i.e bosh or wade. So dont ever act like dallas didn’t execute perfectly on d to beat miami. You actin like the 07 cavs plaid miami and it was all lebrons fault they lost

[@vyshak4455]

Joshua Martinez Taking nothing away from the Mavs, but there is no excuse, you have the team, you have the talent, you have the opportunity and you choke. This is not a little choke, this is a huge choke. And how can you say they let others score, D Wade was on his way to another Finals MVP of it wasn't for Lebron. They tried to stop him, they couldn't, but easily Lebron is Lebron and should have done a lot more. Heck Jason Terry outplayed him that series. It is completely his fault no excuses. I dont know how anyone can defend his obvious fault in that finals.

[@mannyreyes3055]

His team never outplayed lebron he was mvp in all the teams his been in first of all

[@bradenboudreau4020]

Joshua Martinez I agree, even lebron admitted that Dwayne Casey's defensive scheme was target toward stopping lebron and it was well executed.

[@jaysmalls1360]

LeBron is a great great player he deserves and earned his place as a top player to ever do it we never seen a guy like that!!!! With that being said MICHEAL JEFFREY JORDAN is the best Basketball player ever

[@arahelombi8241]

he's the greatest not the best

[@1Flyingfist]

@@arahelombi8241 😑 huh?

[@arahelombi8241]

@@1Flyingfist Micheal Jordan is the greatest player all time. Lebron is the Best player of all time.

[@producewithjt]

Arah Orock You obviously didn’t witness MJ first hand.

[@kushajustabird7337]

@Drew Biggah If you cant call going to the finals 9 times great idk what you on. Whether you like him or not, lose or not. That is great. Hes not the greatest of all time of course but he is one of the best to ever do it. The man broke records. A good player cannot take their team to the finals 9 times. You must not know how hard it is for a team to make it to the finals.

[@antinapay]

The bulls had a better front office, and were better in acquiring rotational talent (Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Kerr, Kukoc, Harper) that constitutes a team built around Jordan. Cavs and Heat relied on "number one option offensively" talent (Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving). Lebron had teammates who had to adjust from being number 1, to 2nd and 3rd options. Before going to Lebron's team, they were already putting up stats because they had to, whether their team was winning (Wade,Bosh) or losing (Irving, Love). This in turn allowed them to have accolades such as allstar nods and all nba team selections. Whereas in Jordan's case, none of his teammates (with exception to Ron Harper) started out as number 1 offensive options and didn't put up the necessary offensive stats that the league places emphasis on. In my opinion, offensive stats are placed at a higher premium than defensive stats, that is why people would argue that Kevin Love or Kyrie Irving are "better" than Pippen or Rodman.

[@mbj920]

Don’t forget about coaching staff. Phil Jackson was who made Jordan so dominant when he introduced the triangle offense

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

Statistically no, Jordan's stats was far better with Doug Collins. In terms of winning yes, but remember it was Jordan who made the plays not Phil.

[@samuelgustafsson2322]

@@alfarouqaminufor3892 right! Phil made them a team but Michael was most dominant in the late 80s under Collins!

[@safikadir4369]

@@samuelgustafsson2322 most dominant yes but they were going nowhere

[@iamfibby5678]

you forget why its called triangle offense to make way for jordan doing 1 on 1. thats how dominant he is. triangle came from doug collins. not jackson and jordan.

[@digimon3522]

Jordans most dominant individual years were pre phil jackson! The triangle actually made jordan less dominant but the team became better! He learned to be a better team player through Phil and the triangle! Its partly Lebron fault that he doent have great coaches and that he hops grom teams to teams to better his chances for winning a chip! Plus dont act like everywhere LeBron goes his teams have always been great and have always catered to his playstyle! Plus you really cant really build around LeBron on the long term as he has the mentality to go to another team as he sees fit! He has always had great teammate except for his first stint in Cleveland or after Kyrie left for boston!

[@nickscott245]

Skips argument was based off of one thing and that was All-Star appearances

[@virgilmanuel3224]

Well you do make an all-star team for a reason, it’s either you put up great stats, influence winning on a team, or both. So counting all star appearances does matter

[@HTxGhost24]

@@virgilmanuel3224 who has more now?

[@virgilmanuel3224]

@@HTxGhost24 more what? more help? Lebron always had more help than MJ

[@HTxGhost24]

@@virgilmanuel3224 I meant more All Star selections, remember Dwyane Wade already had bad knees when LeBron got to Miami, but if you wanna say how GREAT he is then how come he doesn't get any blame for the Dallas series? 🤔

[@thegreatestfinesser2338]

@@HTxGhost24 Because D Wade was the reason Miami was even in control of dat series he averaged 27 on 52% shooting he was the best player in dat series Lebron melted down like we’ve never seen a superstar melt before

[@obeyxviper]

Well Jordan stayed with the Bulls for so long. Lebron creates a super team then leaves. Ill say MJ had more consistent help, BUT Lebron has had more All Star help

[@adamsamuel8593]

Thats because the spoilt players today are so sensitive. They can't handle e.g. if Lebron is the leader. Kyrie can't handle that. Thats why GS really is special they don't play selfish basketball. Thats why its stupid to think the dynasty over when they could win another two rings. Pippen didn't like all the attention MJ got but they worked out their problems. Thats why those 90's young adults were more smarter and braver than today's young adults. Softass 3 point League we have today.

[@d.v9002]

lmao this aged well now that LeBron got AD

[@demonNthesn0w]

@@adamsamuel8593 you in yo feelings

[@Wodz30]

hmm.. let's see.. name the HOF players that Jordan had. Name the HOF players LeBron had that were relevant (i.e. not Shaq). Pippen is a top 50 all-time..Kyrie and D Wade combined are not top 50 all-time. They are both awesome but I would take Pippen over both of them combined

[@obeyxviper]

@@Wodz30 like i said....... Jordan has had more help, but Lebron has played with more all stars

[@Junzstylemadapaka]

Kobe showed up in all games in that series vs Mavs in 2011. LeBron shrank in that series and outplayed by a washed up Jayson Terry. 😂

[@Wecanrecoveryourhome]

Junzstyle Madapaka did Kobe up show against the Pistons in 2004?

[@thexman6138]

WINSTON GREEN Tell the whole the truth. Him and shaq weren't completely done with each other and they didn't prepare for that series.

[@dougieesneh]

Kobe lost in 5 but Lebron lost in 6

[@thexman6138]

dougieesneh and Kobe is 5-2 should had been 6-1

[@careemwalcott7288]

Lakers got swept

[@fredrickjones4574]

I got to say these two guys are good together. Thanks for a wonderful show. Keep up the good work!

[@kc1hotboy]

He got u this time Shannon 9:19. Bron had wade & bosh. Then kyrie & love. He orchestrated it all

[@thebsexpress4264]

And when Lebron left the heat and wade and bosh stayed. They were 37-45.....

[@xbefri23]

theBSexpress Wade played 62 games, Bosh played 44 games. They went 48-34 the next year. Nice try.

[@chrischris7956]

Lebron left for the Cavs in the 2014-15 season and the Heat went 37-45 that year and did not make the playoffs. You sir, are wrong.

[@xbefri23]

Chris Chris read my comment. They won 37 games in 2014. Bosh and Wade were injured. They won 48 games in 2015. Capiche?

[@BeeReaves1]

He also had Ray Allen

[@aaa.internet7014]

Jordon fans: Lebron had way more help than Jordon Also Jordon fans: 1996 Bulls is the best team of all time, they'd destroy the Warriors

[@jamesdjl4359]

I do think that lebron in Miami had a better team than Jordan for his first 3 championships. Lebron,Wade, Bosh, Allen... That's easily an All time Great team. Lebron best small forward, Wade arguably 3rd best shooting guard, Bosh rebounding and defensive monster, Allen one of the greatest shooters we've ever seen(especially 3's). I think Miami in that year matches up very well with 96' Bulls.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Eh, I think that's a little disingenuous. They both had help. Who had more isn't really that important to me. What does matter is that Jordan is the greatest of all time and the '96 Bulls are also the greatest of all time *in large part due to Jordan*. The other primary reason the '96 Bulls are the best is that they could basically lock down your top four scoring options because they were such a devastating defensive team. Only a dominant center could really do major damage, and even there, Rodman was actually capable of defending Shaq, and they had lots of fouls to give up with their lesser frontcourt guys. I don't think any team in NBA history really matches up that well with them.

[@josephkennedy2953]

AAA. internet they played defense n everyone knew their role

[@shinakuma9]

AAA. internet that is true though

[@londzale3163]

Right now in Lebron's 14th season he has 3 rings and 4 MVPs. In MJ's 14th season he was decorating his display closet with 6 Championship rings and 5 MVPs along with 2 Slam Dunk champion trophies and 1 time Defensive player of the year trophy.

[@PearlJamGuy10]

Londzale dont forget LeBron's two bronze medals!!

[@Karma-hy6ki]

Wtf you really brought up Jordan’s 2 slam dunk trophies? Lebron was robbed of defensive player of the year twice smh.

[@Karma-hy6ki]

Also don’t compare it by season compare it by AGE.

[@josiah111]

Karma comparing it by age would be unfair, Jordan played 4 years in college and LeBron came out of highschool. Comparing by number of series shows who's done more in the same amount of time

[@rudy1999]

You forgot 10 scoring titles

[@cowboys4ever348]

Lebron played with 12 all stars compared to Jordan's 4 Lebron also played with a Finals MVP, ROY, scoring champion, and 2 guys who averaged 20 pts & 10 rebounds in their prime. Jordan never played with those kind of players especially in their prime

[@reeceradford2547]

Correct! MJ got carried by HoF and some of the best defenders of all time instead

[@cowboys4ever348]

Says who?

[@AllHailxBuzz25]

Weak ! Oh so we going to forget about Phil Jackson ? He didn’t want to play unless Phil was coach ! Lbj ever have a goat coaching him no ! D rod is better then ever player Lbj played w except wade !

[@cowboys4ever348]

@@AllHailxBuzz25 It's difficult to get a great coach when you constantly leave a team

[@AllHailxBuzz25]

@@cowboys4ever348 he was in n Cleveland for 8 years wasted 8 years , Mia coach spo is great but not hof, frank Vogel ? You sound stupid

[@BrianErwin]

"don't do that" "help me out" "hold on, now"

[@Kennyarnold16]

MJ's only played with Two other HOFamers: Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman. Rodman came after Jordan had already won 3 titles! Lebron has played with 4 Potential HOFamers: Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, D-Wade, and Ray Allen and you could argue that Chris Bosh is a 5th potential HOFamer! Lebron fans love to say that talent is better in today's game but always want to say MJ had better players around him!

[@ryanr20091]

'''potential''' doesn't count either you are a hall of famer or you are not and everybody you mentioned are currently not hall of famers ,so you cant use that as an argument .

[@TheDudeAbides1998]

K.dot- Bosh will get in the hall of fame.

[@Kennyarnold16]

+ryanr20091 yes I can! I say "potential" because a few of those guys are still playing. better believe Ray Allen is getting in as soon as he's eligible! D-wade is a lock and as soon as Kyrie and Love are done they will be too!

[@hairjordan5603]

K. dot Bosh is a first ballot too. I don’t get how u play with Bosh and Wade and only win 2 rings.

[@conflicc5505]

ryanr20091 shaq is hof

[@perrywebb5833]

Micheal did not have the most help to get what he achieved. PERIOD!!! If LeBron kept playing with his original Cavs team you could say it was close but after he went to Miami then back to Cleveland he by far had the most help. James had all-stars come with him everywhere he went and is still 3-6 in the finals. Micheal also played in a more physical era. With average to good teammates. Also if you watched Jordan during his era, you by farrrrrrrr know who you'd want taking that final shot with the game on the line. Nuff said. Leflop will never amount to the player Micheal was. Ever

[@AA-fr7fw]

Ur dumb

[@marshallmaxwell2494]

The difference is that the Bulls drafted pippen and grant, then Jordan taught them how to be killer on the court. It was wade that had to teach Lebron how to be a winner. Lebron had so much help throughout his career that it's not even funny.

[@MrBarberboy42]

Jordan taught them?? No. The Pistons taught them.

[@marshallmaxwell2494]

​@@MrBarberboy42 If the Pistons taught the Bulls then Jordan and Pippen would have been dirty players just like the Pistons.

[@MrBarberboy42]

@@marshallmaxwell2494 Dirty Players? They were Champions. They didn't play any dirtier than any other team. They might've been tougher. MJ is my favorite player. But that loss to the Pistons pushed him to another level. If he had beaten those Pistons early he may have not gotten to 6.

[@marshallmaxwell2494]

Everyteam in the league back then knew that the pistons were dirty and that's why Thomas was kept off the Dream Team. I don't know how old you are but I watched those games first hand. The Pistons were dirty.

[@MrBarberboy42]

@@marshallmaxwell2494 😂. You must not have a basketball background. It was basketball in the 80's and early 90's. Name me one team that didn't play rough basketball. Basketball isn't Golf. It's a physical sport.

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

7:45...says 'lets use context'. Ignores context saying MJ went 30-52 when he missed 64 games that year with a knee injury. Never change LeShannon.

[@killachris456]

Micheal never left his team to win a chip he grinded it out going through the bad boy pistons, show time Lakers, Boston celtics, New York Knicks, Utah jazz , Seattle supersonics, and the trail blazers . If you didn't play your A game you was getting cooked . And his footwork in the post was beautiful

[@gabrielgonzales2794]

He left basketball for baseball. Loyalty where? He left Chicago for the wizards and became a waterboy

[@danielpauley9113]

Amen bro

[@JDB983]

@@gabrielgonzales2794 Yeah his dad got murdered and did baseball to fulfill his dad's dream.And loyalty. Chicago showed no loyalty to nobody and still don't. They betrayed MJ by letting Krause sabotage the team.

[@danielprocel3690]

@@gabrielgonzales2794someone spitting out facts🔥🔥🔥

[@noobrou5857]

Put jordan on the cavs, growing up in Cleveland and he will dip faster than Lebron. Lebrons cavs before he left were outright garbage mailmen.

[@alvarramone4536]

What a lack of respect to say Scottie is a top 50. The guy is easily among the 25 best players ever. Complete as f*, that guy could do anything on a court. Anything

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

Not top 25, top 50 for sure though. And top 50 is usually the creme de la creme

[@MINK2393]

Alvar Ramone He is not Top 25 Lol... D Wade is though 👀

[@ogiefernando3080]

Scottie got the award 50 greatest players way back 1996. And it was a facts. And that because of michael jordan team up.

[@alexisbernardino9620]

He ain’t no D Wade thou 👀

[@gn7858]

Pippen is top 35 at minimum or 30 wtf.

[@problemsnearyou3863]

LeBron has had better overall teams then Michael Jordan I won’t lie, but MJ had consistency in his robin, consistency in what’s built around him & consistency in being coached by an all time great coach . Part of Jordan being successful is partly due to that little bit of luck, but mostly good management around him . A factor highly underrated in today’s NBA

[@Wyndamn]

BIG facts.

[@Bagger_0]

Better overall teams? The bulls have a claim to be the best team of all time, none of LeBrons teams do

[@Wyndamn]

@@Bagger_0 yeah Chicago signing a superstar defender spectacular rebounder in Dennis Rodman, that's definitely true.

[@problemsnearyou3863]

@@Bagger_0 that happened in 96 . The culture, core & system was figured out by then . LeBron put himself in many new situations & many/all of which had injury plagued stars . The 96 season is a result of maturation, culture & chemistry coming together . That team wasn’t that talented . It had role players who fulfilled their roles perfectly

[@legendarywiimaster]

Coaching as well LeBron not having a great environment or coaching system I think ended up hurting his development

[@noelfernandez7653]

I’m tired of this comparison mj was the best Lebron is great but they are different players different positions

[@ianbranham4552]

Love how sharpe keeps changing the arguement from ots original point of the convo

[@codabang]

Lebron played with Wade (had a ring before bron came) ray Allen (had a ring before he joined and best three point shooter at the time) bosh legit big men who was a all star and he played with K love who have lead the NBA in rebounds a game and Kyrie top 5 pg in NBA and if you want we can add shaq so Yea bron bron had way more help then MJ

[@codabang]

@D K but Jordan made them look good and they wasnt near as good when they wasn't with Jordan and the coach can't make you good cause the Knicks was trash and he didn't help them one bit. Yea Jordan played with hall of fame type players but they couldn't get a ring without him but bron played with players who had a ring already

[@codabang]

@D K rodman was a rebound machine like K love and Kyrie was rookie of the year. Wade is as good as any player Jordan have played with and bosh is legit the best big men between both players. Then we give Lebron best 3 point shooter of all time. Lebron play with 3 of the best 8 players in NBA around time they win championships and Jordan got a team full of players who good at certain things. Jordan made all his teammates look great but Lebron play with great players know the difference bro. And yes he was GM but he had finger prints over everything they had and did and so you saying he made Jordan n Kobe cause he coached both. Coaches don't make players just putting in work and time.

[@come2morrow368]

@@codabang research Craig Hodges, John Paxon, Steve Kerr, and a few others who were 3 pts specialist. This was before teams only shot maybe 6-8 3pters per game. The Bulls were a "Great" team even without MJ the first 3peat and 2nd 3peat though the Bulls "truly" needed MJ the first championship more than any other championship they won.

[@codabang]

@@come2morrow368 so who would you take ray Allen and Wade or any of two Jordan team mates. It's only one person better then any teammate LeBron had and that's pipen everyone was replaceable. And who won LeBron his last ring to me Kryie should've had finals MVP so I rest my case.

[@codabang]

@Tommy Bain naw just showed LeBron played with 3 maybe 4 of the top 20 players in his era while Jordan didn't so case made n won so I rest

[@ryanc0213]

Tbh Steve Kerr and Phil Jackson are the most helped players/coaches of all time

[@llcoolt75c]

Man jordan had roll players......jordan had no all-star but Scottie .....STOP IT MAN

[@christianhoy8447]

llcoolt75c scottie is ranked 21 all time and wade is 26 also bosh is top 100 on that list so im takin wade and bosh rather than scottie

[@jlawson4479]

Man you crazy

[@christianhoy8447]

@@jlawson4479 you talkin to me

[@jlawson4479]

@@christianhoy8447 yes lol

[@kingboi9333]

@@jlawson4479 Jordan had steve kerr. There are more players Jordan had

[@dunkiyoveryou]

But did Jordan play with someone who won a finals and finals mvp before he won a title himself? 🤔

[@dunkiyoveryou]

MilitaryPcGamer In the Finals*

[@callies300]

Dennis Rodman had how many rings before coming to the bulls???

[@dunkiyoveryou]

Callie Steele didn’t MJ have more rings that Dennis Rodman? And did he win a finals MVP🤔

[@eldio2124]

Samory Rose Jordan did play with someone who won a ring. D Rod

[@dunkiyoveryou]

Steve Gerrard did Jordan not have 3 rings before they played together? (Which is more than Rodman)

[@2682shark]

In 2011 Lebron played with 2 All Stars on his team, his team was the Favorite to win the Finals And they Lost!!!!.. End of debate

[@machoking2405]

Forget that, his team was favorite to win in 2009 and 2010. Both years won 60+ games.

[@dimitrisgreen2883]

AND WON THE NEXT BACK TO BACKKKK CLOWN

[@justthisguy1948]

Dimitris Green yea 2-2 with one of the greatest teams ever is a fail

[@2682shark]

Bob Jones he was on a team with 3 starting All Stars and still lost so what’s your point?

[@RL-ww5ev]

@@justthisguy1948 that's a stretch wade was injury plagued and bosh wasn't as good in Miami as he was in Toronto

[@chives2234]

Skip literally finds one stat in his favor and he runs with only that the whole debate

[@KleinpeterHank]

Better than Shannon who had no stats and ran with Oakley being some noteworthy player like a Dwade or Kyrie.

[@JbaIenic]

For me, I was here when Scottie came to Chicago and I KNOW MJ made Scottie the player he became. Literally, picking him up to work out and mentoring him on games...etc.

[@masteryi9906]

Cxntsnag and so what ? if in 2012 lebron was at cavs when kyrie got drafted, kyrie would be very very very better now

[@richardgraham2659]

Michael didn't make Scottie into the player he became NOBODY can make you into anything. You can say MJ molded him but he didn't make him, if he could MAKE him he could MADE a BUNCH of other people. Scottie had the desire and worth ethic and talent to be great, MJ just guided him and helped him mature and develop faster. But NOBODY MAKES anybody, but they do influence you.

[@toveychow3635]

Richard Graham ur day made u into the hard head today

[@yoe91]

Can you imagine MJ with the help of Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh ? He's never had a situation like that...

[@oneshotki11]

Dont forget Ray Allen.

[@vomitcomit599]

can you imagine going against kawhi, tony parker, danny green, tim duncan, manu ginobili, and one of the best spurs team to ever exist? how bout the warriors lol

[@reign1594]

@Toxic Gaming istg, especially playing against kawhi

[@michaelmonte4218]

@Toxic Gaming Oh Hey LeBron James Justice coalition member 😂

[@oneshotki11]

@I'm the best at everything I'm never wrong The guy who saved Lebron James and gave him another ring?...

[@B.N.HMedia]

The eastern conference is super weak compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s. These cavs teams wouldn't make it pass the second round during that time

[@thepeacekeeper2338]

+MilitaryPcGamer Yeah sure. He beat the Pistons the year after they won the championship... When Thomas was 29, Rodman was 29, Dumars was 27, Laimbeer was 31, Vinnie Johnson was 28.

[@B.N.HMedia]

MilitaryPcGamer exactly those eras where alot tuffer and lebrons championship teams wouldn't of made it out the 2nd round..

[@MrSPIDEY21]

@@thepeacekeeper2338 what does that mean?

[@nikebrand4416]

skip:4 years is a long time shannon:is it longer then the 10 years jordan has with scottie pippen

[@ryanjones1323]

Name 1. Good player that got better playing alongside Lebron? The answer is zero. Jury is out on Kyrie but I would say he was playing better this season and carrying an injury. It's the real reason mj is better than lbj. Truly great players make players around them better

[@OfficialRocNation]

that narrative is false that's true. But it's not like they get worse, their numbers go down because of less shots.

[@cypher787]

is that why the bulls won 55 games without jordan and both cleveland and miami became lottery teams after lebron left?

[@OG_predatorproductionz]

@Tgaud82 W

[@nanu4754]

Tgaud82 no it’s because the team was already built, not to mentioned they pick they up Kerr, kukoc, Rodman, etc plus they had Phil as coach cmon now

[@welcometomychannelswelcome7261]

I think Shannon never watched MJ play. too busy playing football.

[@santanah.6897]

Lol on god

[@ChiGuy251]

Let me address two arguments here, one the 1-9 argument before Pippen arrived and the 55 win argument after MJ retired the first time. Now when Pippen was drafted to the Bulls, he wasn't a superstar out the gate, he had to be developed and Jordan played a big part in his development. The 1988 playoffs where the Bulls got to the second round, Pippen averaged 10 point's whereas Jordan averaged 45 and it took 5 games the beat a very good Cavs squad. The following year Pippen improved averaging 15 but Jordan averaged 39 and it still took 5 games to beat the Cavs. Pippen didn't become an all star until 1990 and not to mention how many times Michael had to deal with him shrinking in the playoffs against the PIstons. Pippen become a great player but it was due in part to the role MJ played in his development. Now on to the "55 win" argument, yes while the Bulls won 2 games less and were able to stay afloat in Mike's absence, they were also a championship squad with a veteran coaching staff and remained mostly intact.They were able to battle the Knicks to 7 games but Mike's absence was felt in that game 7 as the Bulls struggled to keep pace with the Knicks. The following year however, the Bulls were barely able to keep their head above water being 34-31 before MJ made his late season return. The Cavs without LeBron were broken up immediately AFTER "The Decision" (which btw ppl don't know just how much damage that caused the franchise) the coaching staff was replaced, players left and it was half a new squad and is more comparable to the Bulls team after the 98 title than the one after MJ's first retirement.

[@EMMANUELALMIGHTY]

ChiGuy251 Good effort, but there is no point really. These people don't go by facts, tape, logic, or reason. They just love LeBron and will diminish all other greatness until he's the goat. In the end, MJ will probably be regarded as an overrated scrub by these zombies. I've tried typing out long posts like yours with facts and experience of a watching them both play, but it doesn't matter. When they have people like Nick Wright and Shay Sharpe on television breathing hate, this is the result. Blind witnesses.

[@LouieV6]

wasabi 1337 I don’t think Shannon and Nick hate MJ, but their man crush on their LeBron is getting ridiculous to the point where they’re disrespecting Jordan’s legacy

[@ChiGuy251]

I had to try tho lol but yeah these LeBron fans try it every year citing meaningless stats and strawman arguments that's how sick they are.

[@Nothereman9999]

Thank you, I couldn't agree more.

[@jsmith469]

Jordon was a ball hog. He couldn't have done it without pippen. If pippen had more time to run the team as its captain, he would be taken them to the finals.

[@alexhathaway9098]

Ha I can watch this video over and over all day. Hail the greatness of Jordan.

[@alberteinstein9591]

How do ppl say the bulls would beat the warriors but lebron had more supporting cast? Just doesnt make any sense. The bulls were the better franchise better front office better defense better chemistry and overall more well rounded. Lebron for sure had more all stars but the bulls just were better and not only because mj was that much better than lebron is. No disrespect but u cant say the bulls would beat golden state but lebron had more supporting cast??? That just doesnt sum up just do the maths

[@alberteinstein9591]

samuel moore thats what im trying to say

[@boyzaya15]

Lebron did not have a more supporting cast lol.

[@FixxxerZ7]

The math is easy. The Bulls would beat the Warriors because they had the best player that has ever played the post,. far better than everyone else. Lebron has had better super teams that he has built himself, and he has not been dominating. Instead, he is the greatest loser of all times. MJ was FAR better than Lebron than you think. He was better than Kareem, than Magic Johnson, than Larry Bird, and Kobe Bryant, and Lebron is worse than all of these players as a dominating player. They defined their eras with their wins, Lebron defines his era with his losses.

[@douglassgarvey653]

They're talking about the 2nd 3peat Bulls would beat Warriors. That Bulls team is no different than what LeBron had in Miami.

[@dinheirojovem1152]

Leonard Ruokonen I think that’s exactly the issue people have, like Skips Argument he’s only focusing on all stars and not focussing on what you just said the bulls were the better and more well rounded TEAM overall. Having multiple all stars isn’t always a good thing if they’re not well rounded as a team. That is why MJ had more help

[@maxujess25]

Shannon is horrible but so is skip. Jordan going 6-0 in the finals. You just can't try to diminish that. I'm Miami they built for winning now. They had so many veterans same in Cleveland the 2nd time around. He's had quite a bit of help. I don't get the Jordan had Scottie argument. The bulls drafted him. Just like golden state they drafted their core players.

[@aldrinpartisala6553]

Thats the point, Pippen got stronger in Chicago. While Lebron already has an established Teammates

[@heya1988]

How does Scottie and the GS players being drafted change the fact that they were a huge help?????????

[@OGking831]

@@heya1988 scottie was not a,talented player when he came. He got stronger because Jordan forced him to play him 1v1 and play great defense on everyone else as that practice transpired in his game. Scottie even admitted Jordan carried him

[@youngfreshjr595]

At the end of the day its up to the players to get better. You cant fault the role players on the bulls for working on their game and improving. Lebron's role players have the same 24 hours in a day like everyone else. They shouldve used it to work on their game. Plus jordan took the big shots while lebron chose to defer

[@RandySavagxe]

Fort Ress help either way

[@kennethmathurin8244]

Jordan and Kobe stayed with the same team

[@Rivs5117]

Kenneth Mathurin Facts bro they didn’t run every time they loss. Maybe if LeBron actually stayed with one team especially Miami he would’ve won about two more rings.

[@kennethmathurin8244]

Bruce Rivers word Miami was the best team for him.. but he had to get from under wade shadow because people started calling him out for not being clutch.. that just show how selfish he was .. wade was still playing his best in his last days and retired.. if he would’ve stayed they would probably got three more rings wade bron and bosh .. he’s corny

[@Rivs5117]

Kenneth Mathurin Facts bro deep down inside he probably regrets leaving Miami.

[@Ladiesman217-l1t]

Kenneth Mathurin Miami was his best fit but he promised a ring to Cleveland and he prob felt like he was ready to get it. Miami was just a stepping stone for him in my opinion. Kinda like the championship DNA badge on 2k.

[@kennethmathurin8244]

Samuel Thompson but they totally disrespected him burning his jersey and a lot more Miami took him in like a step child and that city loved him.. he just went there cause he knew he couldn’t or just case he would never get a ring

[@deanalbertson7203]

Michael Jordan and LeBron James are both great players, and both had help from other great players along the way.

[@danielpauley9113]

You need help

[@AmirKhan-yv8jm]

LeBron never had a HOF coach like Phil Jackson!

[@dewman7477]

MJ goat

[@charlieoconnor-byrne1027]

Lebron played with Ben Wallace and Shannon is talking about mj playing with a two time defensive player of the year

[@MrMuaythai84]

bronsesxual ignore any facts

[@matttheknicksfan]

so when a washed up dwade made those all star teams as a starter, specifically the 2 years w/ LBJ where he played 49 and 54 games, the all star game was no longer a popularity contest? dwade was everything and anything you could ask for from a robin... ok skip

[@Bhullarsaab92]

Matt The Knicks Fan d wade was never a robin cut it out

[@LT-xb5su]

Matt The Knicks Fan MJ=overrated Game 5 elimination game 1988 Jordan scores 2 points in fourth Game 5 elimination game 1989 Jordan scores 18 total and 1 point in fourth 1995 ECF Jordan has two turnovers in final minute of game to give Orlando the win Not to mention the multiple times he was swept out of the first round Jordan plays for bulls 1993 they win 57 games, doesn’t play 1994 they win 55 games LeBron brings teams to finals than when he leaves they get the first pick In the 90s the NBA added 6 expansion teams, spreading out talent, watered down NBA 1996 the NBA had the record for most teams with under 20 wins Jordan never had to face zone defenses, illegal defense was beneficial to Jordan’s scoring sucsess. Give Kobe those rules and he will average more points than Jordan. NBA promoted Jordan being the “goat” for marketing purposes

[@hardythomas21]

i remember yow ming and Tracy mcgrady got picked to be all-stars in the years they were injured and bearly played.

[@Whitesharkvideo]

Matt The Knicks Fan “Washed up Dwayne Wade?” You fools who listen to what you hear in TV and just repeat it. Wade gave LeBron his best years, the stretch of his career when he had MBA finals experience and his physical prowess and performed fantastically. Oh, and btw, all these years after LeBron fled the scene once again, D Wade is still going.

[@FrankDTank16]

last i checked, the heat got beat in the 1st round. By a 76'ers team that should've already been swept in the 2nd round (thanks refs) by a depleted celtics team (no kyrie or Hayward).

[@gabrieljude2478]

Let's not forget that Jordan didn't go out and hand pick his team like LeBron did in order to win a title. Jordan made due with the guys he had his entire career. If the argument is who had the better all stars. LeBron had them because they all got together to join forces. Jordan helped Scottie as muh as Scottie helped Jordan but Jordan didn't call Scottie to join his team and then call up Rodman or a Steve Kerr who bounced around the league before making an impact with the bulls. It was good complimentary pieces that the organization put around Jordan.

[@isaacjones7406]

Well remember during those day the GM did all that.....and now hmmm.

[@carlant_III]

Especially when all Lebron's teammates get injured literally every year

[@Puchendante]

Had to play 2015 finals almost literally alone

[@hershelpogue1745]

Everyone gets hurt no excuses. You act like Michael Jordan wasn't hurt,he was he just wouldn't know by looking at him, Michael Jordan is a man and the leader of his team. Since they know Michael Jordan would play even if he's hurt, they just wouldn't quit on a man like that. It doesn't look good. Now you know another difference between your Lebron and Michael Jordan.

[@pinoyengineeronline8766]

Lebron recruited a lot of stars. Jordan's teammates became better after playing along time with them.

[@rusheelanne1373]

Look at kyrie and ad

[@johndiaz1649]

Dennis rodman 2x all-star Skip-“dennis never made an all star game with jordan Also skip-“ no player before and after playing with jordan was an all star”

[@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984]

Skip is a hater, thats all

[@brentmeistergeneral6074]

I love how they reframe the question ‘who played in the best teams?’ With ‘who was helped the most?’ Like its all about 4 guys helping 1 guy rather than 5 playing together in team... just shows how embarrassing this ‘TEAM’ sport has become with individual egos! 🤦‍♂️

[@danh.5998]

Brent Meister General my thought exactly. “Help” is such a derogatory term.

[@jacobdestern4288]

Tell me who you’d rather play with in your career. And before all you Lebron fanboys go off I’m listing best players they’ve played with in their CAREER. Scottie Pippen Dennis Rodman Toni Kukoc Richard Hamilton Steve Kerr Or Dwayne Wade Kyrie Irving Anthony Davis Chris Bosh Ray Allen Kevin Love

[@jacobdestern4288]

Bob Jones First off you need to check your source or your head because Kevin love never averaged anything near 8 PPG when he went to Cleveland. He averaged 17.2 PPG and 10 RPG during his tenure with LBJ. Secondly Charles Oakley only ever played ONE season with MJ where he averaged 3 PPG and 6 RPG so thank you for destroying your own point about players not being as good as they used to be. Thirdly Steve Kerr averaged 8 PPG during his time with MJ. Which is 2 PPG less than what Allen averaged with LBJ. So wait if Allen was washed what’s Kerr? Fourth Horace grant was a great player but doesn’t even compare to the likes of Chris Bosh or Anthony Davis. He had identical stats to shaq in 2010 with the Cavs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Not to mention of all the players YOU mentioned this is combined how many all star appearances they have MJ Teammates 10x All star LBJ Teammates 31x All star Who’d you rather take. A team of Pippen Rodman Kerr Harper Grant Paxston Kukoc OR Anthony Davis Kyrie Irving Kevin Love Dwayne Wade Chris Bosh Ray Allen (10 PPG) You’re an idiot. Next time you try to argue something come with facts and not made up BS. Dismantling your idiotic make belief argument was easy. Not saying Lebron wasn’t great. But to say he had less help is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard. Stop watching basketball and please for the love of god. Stop riding Lebron.

[@Supermariohoops24]

Shannon could’ve helped his argument if he responded to Skip’s claim of MJ being the only allstar in 1998 if he said that neither Kyrie nor Love made the 2016 allstar team

[@swatejtripathi3083]

Truth

[@supremegoesviral9922]

Not really. The reason Kyrie wasn’t an all star was because he missed 2 months. That is also likely why pippen wasn’t an all star either, however Scottie wasn’t great that year overall.

[@kevinmccabe3984]

@Williford Bustin how is missing time due to injury an “excuse”? It’s more of a reason

[@supremegoesviral9922]

@Williford Bustin how stupid are u

[@timmaz24s]

When it comes to an argument for lebron, Shannon Sharpe always changing the narrative. Shannon can argue all you want but Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time.

[@PilfedoM]

This dude said The Frozen One. I'm dead 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@vza7938]

@Toxic Gaming but didnt he freeze? oh I forgot he was dominating the 2011 Finals, with 2 other franchise superstars...didn't get crossed by terry, or outplayed by old man Dirk

[@LEC1857-6inFinalsGotReverseSwe]

@Sub 2 me for no reason Just like how you guys discredit MJ in his early career.

[@BijinMCMXC]

Toxic Gaming because MJ NEVER froze and NEVER lost a finals. Doesn’t disqualify Lebron from being the greatest player TODAY but does disqualify him from being better than MJ.

[@monke2457]

Etan Best I’m a bron fan and I’m dead 😂