Mid size trucks are almost as much money as a full size in many cases and mileage isn’t much better.
@jessehernandez50435 жыл бұрын
Diesel colorado owners get 30+mpg regularly. Friend has a colorado diesel with a tune from duramax tuner and gets 33+mpg highway regularly
@RodeoRides5 жыл бұрын
My 2013 fx4 with the 5.0 does just as good on the highway
@jimparker77785 жыл бұрын
My 2wd V8 silverado always beats those numbers. Their figures do not include AC compressor drag either.
@justinw.23765 жыл бұрын
Jesse Hernandez that’s also a diesel you automatically get better gas mileage from a diesel unless it’s a piece of crap
@hewavith5 жыл бұрын
My tuned diesel Colorado gets 34 mpg avg on highway.. with me driving 80.
@howardbebbe41215 жыл бұрын
This is no shocker you drive a vehicle 80mph uphill through mountains and expect to get 26mpg.
@bigrainbow254 жыл бұрын
I was just going to say the same thing what the hell anybody driving a truck 80 FREAKING miles an hour is going to get 20% less if not more than the sticker says...ON ANY VEHICLE..I really like these guys a lot but this one was their biggest BONER yet... stupid is as stupid does... did you notice when they slow down even though they were in 4 wheel drive they got a lot better gas mileage... there's your clue Forest
@jmilz285 жыл бұрын
News flash, you won't get ideal MPGs going uphill, into the wind, in thin air, at 80mph. Youd need to turn around and do the same legs back and average those in to have a more fair test.
@jimwilson20515 жыл бұрын
Most flawed test I've ever seen in my life. Been driving for 50 years.
@theroemergarage61195 жыл бұрын
That turbo will account for the thinner air.
@jnk265 жыл бұрын
No truck will ever get the EPA rating at 80 mph. Especially a 4x4. I got better than the 26mpg(8.9L/100km) on my 16 3.5eb all the time, but I drive 65 at most. I did do a 350mile(500km) trip at 120km/h(73mph) where I got 9.2L/100km(25.5mpg US). It doesn't matter I traded that truck back in for a crew cab 8' bed F350 with the powerstroke and I has averaged 11.5L/100km(20.4mpg) on highway trips. That's an 8500lb 4x4 diesel, far more truck than the 5000lb F150 it replaces.
@mkvnwk5 жыл бұрын
jmilz28 My F-150 2.7 ecoboost definitely shows this as well. Wind and terrain can have a significant affect on my fuel economy. My truck gets great mileage at 60 mph, but drops considerably by 70 mph. Even from 70-75 mph there is a noticeable drop. I think the bottom line is these engines can have great fuel economy, but when the turbos are put to work, fuel economy will suffer. I also see a significant drop in mpg during frigid temps.
@ExcellsNT5 жыл бұрын
jmilz28 you also have two XL people in the cab
@tragicallyunhip55535 жыл бұрын
Id say all things considered, the Ranger did well on this test. I have a 2019 Ranger Lariat 4WD, and the best mpg I have gotten is 30 highway.
@mrjjthor4 жыл бұрын
30mpg!?? How fast were you going and was that hand calculated?
@mrjjthor4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel RN I don't believe it either unless he was traveling down a long decline highway.
@chico10145 жыл бұрын
EPA tests don't take into account going up hill at 80MPH against the wind so this is more realistic of what you can expect but if you did run through lets say Ohio at 65 MPH you would likely get the 24MPG
@299charles5 жыл бұрын
Maybe 55 on flat ground
@devn38135 жыл бұрын
Chico101 most of the time they do. All of the vehicles I have driven get better mpg at just under 80 than the highway epa numbers even with hills. Fords mog is always overrated
@OnTheRocks715 жыл бұрын
Realistic if you're always driving uphill. Which I'm pretty sure you can't do in the real world. lol.
@ultron69315 жыл бұрын
add in no climate control either. freezing or sweating you butt off that a/c pump takes some mpg too.
@killerar155 жыл бұрын
Nah your get less....275 traffic is at a stand still Everytime the road makes a 15° or sharper turn..... Lol also the road rage that occurs to the driver after they see there wasn't a reason for traffic to lock up the brakes.
@DrillRig525 жыл бұрын
Winter fuel, cold weather, wind, up hills and 75-80 mph highways all hurt mileage. Considering all that I’d say it did pretty good.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤦♂️ you Ford soybois kill me, nothing but hypocrites!
@WhoThisGuy5155 жыл бұрын
As soon as someone uses the term "soybois" and spells it that way, completely loses all ability to be taken serious and as a intelligent human being.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
cody roland awww.. Another butthurt Ford soyboi that is hurt by truth.. Awww
@stevenhorsefield29095 жыл бұрын
Winter fuel? It's not diesel fuel it's gas
@DrillRig525 жыл бұрын
Steven horsefield No shit. Winter blend fuel affects gas and diesel.
@darnellrogers88845 жыл бұрын
Wow so I guess there is not much difference between this Ranger and a full size F150 So my question is... why buy the ranger?
@josephwhiskeybeale5 жыл бұрын
darnell rogers same reason people bought them before. They like the smaller size.
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
My question is not why buy an F150 over the Ranger, but why buy a Ranger over the Colorado/Canyon?
@darnellrogers88845 жыл бұрын
Joseph Whiskey Beale I guess your right🤷🏽♂️
@steveschilling59665 жыл бұрын
not everyone wants a full size truck so your wrong
@darnellrogers88845 жыл бұрын
N Pooch Good question If there were a raptor ranger in America that would be a good reason not to buy a Colorado or Canyon
@stevendensmore76535 жыл бұрын
20.1 MPG going uphill in snow in 4wd. That's awesome in my book.
@daghostxxx17973 жыл бұрын
That's BS ! My 2020 Ranger can't hit 20mpg on a clear, flat road in 2wd ! Don't know what they did to get these figures ??? Everybody is pushing these units, I test drove a 2020 Canyon and wish I'd gone that way, bought the Ranger.....very disappointed !
@Davidlester773 жыл бұрын
My average is 20.6 if I'm going 75 mph on flat I get 18 to 19 and any small hill I get like 7
@vorteco76923 жыл бұрын
@@daghostxxx1797 my 2021 FX4 ranger has averaged 23.5 for the last 182 miles.
@tenskeeze3 жыл бұрын
I get 13.9mpg on daily driving half and half hiway but just hit 2k miles hoping it gets better over time idk
@RXMike5 жыл бұрын
I always found it strange that you didn’t test and post up the 98 mile mpg test right away.
@craigquann5 жыл бұрын
That was my thoughts as well. Do it on a decent day. It would be easier to compare it to other trucks that way
@revgordon915 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@JohnDoe-wy2py5 жыл бұрын
Test the truck on the same 98 mile loop as you test the others and report the mpg.
@TheParchisi5 жыл бұрын
With the constant climb, weather, assuming there were some stops, going 80 MPH...it seems about right. EPA estimates are usually on the optimistic side anyways.
@actually_it_is_rocket_science5 жыл бұрын
Epa is typically around 65mph. Above that it drops bad.
@dannyixoye2625 жыл бұрын
They did not say how fast they drove.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 you Ford soybois are nothing but hypocrites!
@Mgoblagulkablong5 жыл бұрын
Next test: Start with a Ranger at the top of Pikes Peak in summer and let it roll down to the next gas station. Then call the video: "Unexpected Results! You'll Be Surprised By The New Ford Ranger's Fuel Economy!"
@fabulousoffroaddesigns50805 жыл бұрын
Matthew Plewa I believe the E.P.A. tests highway mpg at 55mph because it is where the highest rating can be achieved. I also believe that this trip saw some city and stop and go traffic. When you are calculating fuel consumption you have to factor in the energy it would take to lift that amount of weight from 0 to 5000 ft and ad that fuel used to the estimated consumption.
@gregh2880 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Ranger FX4, 2.3L EB. I only have about 6000 miles on the truck. My overall average fuel economy is 22.5. Not bad for a 4x4. No complaints.
@thecman265 жыл бұрын
You have to remember you're dealing with a brand new truck. As the engine breaks in the fuel economy will improve. I have a 2013 EcoBoost Explorer and the EPA highway fuel economy is 24mpg. I get 22 usually at the speed limit. If I drive 8mph under I can get 25. So it's all relative. Good work!
@MrFordguy735 жыл бұрын
Everyone chiming in with their trusty older truck beating these numbers, they're irrelevant unless they are doing the same trip, temps, climbing etc. It's silly actually reading all of these without thinking about that.
@chevyon37s5 жыл бұрын
Ziggy Z. Not really considering better mpg can be attained by those trucks in conditions usually worse for mpg.
@stevenhorsefield29095 жыл бұрын
Hey my mpg comment was from colorado thats where I live.
@robertrichardson99535 жыл бұрын
And not getting the same fuel economy from one brand of fuel to the next. I get crappy fuel economy using Exxon but get better fuel economy using BP
@TdrSld5 жыл бұрын
@@robertrichardson9953 My Tundra's love Shell and Valero, ok on Exxon and hate BP.
@bossmann63585 жыл бұрын
TdrSld My transmission is just about toast. I can only get it to go in reverse. I used to get 22 mpg on the highway, now that I have to drive on the highway in reverse, I average around 10 mpg
@JDerks20075 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure, I’m a ford guy. But I will start off by saying all vehicles you test will get way closer to their rated hwy mpg . Unfortunately you drive too fast. Not that I disagree with you but the hwy rating is not calculated anywhere near 70mph... it’s been a while and I honestly haven’t researched since but in Canada the hwy call was some slow speed like around 50mph. As a driver of a pickup, speed above 60mph, headwinds, uphill even slightly, snow storms kills mpg.. you need to do a test to prove this. Do your 100 mile loop at 3 different speeds with the same vehicle. 60, 65, 70 on the same day and I’d be shocked if you didn’t see a difference..
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
Well, most ppl drive 70 mph or above!
@audisportracer5 жыл бұрын
Here in America most states have laws in place to prohibit driving too slowly, especially on Highways. In Nevada, where I live, Nevada law prohibits driving so slowly "as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with the law." (NRS 484B.623, 484B.627 & 484B.630) So for a real world test, they have to drive near the speed limit. As highway speed limits have increased to 70mph, 75mph, and 80mph, the EPA tests have not been adjusted. I believe they still test at 60mph so you are correct. The EPA needs to update their test procedures. Driving 10, 15, 20 mph below the speed limit is not real world.
@JDerks20075 жыл бұрын
John Doe I don’t disagree on interstates or 400 series in Canada however it would be pretty silly to call all other driving off interstate ‘city’ driving though. The places I drive, less than 10% of my driving is on a road with a limit above 50mph (80kmph in Canada). So driving at 58mph I always get the rates mpg. Everyone is hung up on driving 70mph or more but that’s not where most people likely drive the larger percentage of the time. Maybe a third epa rating for interstate? Or update the hwy rating for greater speed. The reality is the sweet spot for mpg is likely around 55mph. Sorry everyone drive somewhere around that speed and all trucks will surprise you.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
audisportracer yep, same in Ohio. Minimum speed on the freeway is 40mph, but you will be cited for driving too slow, or impeded the flow of traffic.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
James D actually, driving 70 mph or above is the normal here in the states, and where most ppl do their driving.
@joshuak29685 жыл бұрын
I recently did almost the same trip (Visalia California to Denver) in my 2018 F-150 Lariat FX4 with the 3.5 and I averaged 18.5 on the trip computer, 17.8 MPG actual. In case anybody wanted a comparison.
@ia6980 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, google shows better numbers on F-150 vs ranger, so its good to hear from actual owner
@JustinKingOffroad5 жыл бұрын
my 2013 f150 is rated at 20 and i hit that once in its life so far... cruising around yellowstone at 45 mph for 200 miles. never hit that number since lol.
@289pinto5 жыл бұрын
I changed the tires on mine to something better than the rubber bands it came with and it killed the mileage. Edit 2012 F150 with the 5.0
@steventacconi54335 жыл бұрын
I had a 2011 supercrew EcoBoost 4x4, lifetime(45k miles) average was around 17.5mpg (only towed a total of about 1000 miles and routine weekend warrior hauling). On long trips I routinely got around 19mpg. Best was a short highway run with cruise at 60mph, got 24mpg. This was about the same as my 2008 Frontier (crew cab 4x4) over 120k miles. But oddly enough, my 2014 Silverado crew can 4x4 diesel over 17k miles averaged 16.5mpg including some light towing and hauling. At the end if the day, a truck that can haul +/- 2000 pounds, tow 7000 lbs (midsize) 11,000 lbs (fullsize) or 18,000lbs (HD), and 4 or 5 people, to get that kind of mileage is pretty impressive, regardless of what the EPA says.
@rognio35 жыл бұрын
My 2016 fusion 1.5 eco is rated for 37 hwy. It gets 29 hwy. My 98 blazer is rated for 13 hwy, and it gets 21 hwy. The Ecoboost program is primarily set up to scam the numbers under the specific conditions of the mpg testing. It's kind of lame and us consumers get the short stick as a result.
@Pnw_fatguy_gear5 жыл бұрын
@@rognio3 my ecoboost 3.5 gets 21? Seems fine to me
@rognio35 жыл бұрын
@@Pnw_fatguy_gear it's heavily dependant on the speed you drive and whether or not you stay in boost. My old 3.5 got 14 ish. But I typically cruise at about 80-85 since that's sort of avg traffic speed here. I'm not hating on the eco boost, it's all the modern turbo engines. They make nice power and drink fuel
@Drewski4605 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the work you do on this channel but for the sake of consistency you should be doing the same MPG loop you do with all other vehicles. Not this one off up hill in the wind and snow test. If you want to claim real world results in each video then do the real world MPG test like this to each vehicle. Furthermore, there are some inconsistencies in your data on the last leg of your trip. The video says you are going from Moab, UT to Denver, CO however the ending mileage of your test is 275.4 miles which lands you at a Kum & Go in the town of Frisco, CO not Denver. The last section of roads to Denver on I-70 are all down range which could and would have increased your real world MPG average... Please be more consistent with your presentations...as I still enjoy your channel.
@mikeecho87725 жыл бұрын
dude, its a drive from one place to another as they stated at the beginning. That was their mission and they took us(viewers) on that ride. those are real world numbers from someone who will drive that route or sections of that route.
@torintherrien64724 жыл бұрын
You mean like drive in the real world lol come in dude seriously your never going to drive the same so it will change a little bit should change 4 or 5 mpg people need to understand turbo engines are finicky you accelerate turbos spool they use more fuel. Yes fun to drive more efficient and more likely to cost money later in years is a guarantee
@daghostxxx17973 жыл бұрын
Very unscientific results ! You could stand next to it and guess the fuel economy and do a better job !
@jl40915 жыл бұрын
My 2006 V6 Dakota got 22 on the same trip.With a motorcycle in the bed and a 400 pound woman in the passenger seat.
@davidfreeman53025 жыл бұрын
Thats no woman thats a wildebeest
@spareparts76305 жыл бұрын
Between the gas you would save over the long haul and food expenses you could afford a newer truck if you got yourself a normal sized woman. On the upside, you can use her dresses as a car cover.
@randalldenison46285 жыл бұрын
Put motorcycle up front n 400 lbs woman in back.
@289pinto5 жыл бұрын
Do a natural gas conversion and plug her in.
@RedHaloManiac955 жыл бұрын
And then the truck started flying?
@xr500t5 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what I would expect from a high altitude, uphill experience. Also, the way or the amount of gas that you actually pump into the tank can vary by a pretty wide margin so you are getting your results to vary depending on how you gas up the car. To get a more accurate reading you need to top off the tank until you are literally spilling, repeating that process, and then using your mileage do the math. You want to make sure you're not off by more than an 1/8 gallon to get consistent mileage. I can get another 3 gallons in after the pump nozzle clicks off! Finally, do the test at sea level. I have a 20yr old v6 Oddysey and get 26mpg. It goes to 20mpg when I climb through VT and NH. When I stay at sea level without a bunch of carry-on crap, the thing is a champ. Please DO NOT trust the MPG computer.
@g70030415 жыл бұрын
Well, most people don't care about the MPG if they love their vehicles or hardcore fans.... just look at Jeep Wrangler.
@remsterx5 жыл бұрын
Agreed lol! You don't buy trucks for mpg you buy for capability like the mentioned Jeep. If I want better mpg I would drive my wife's camry.
@DWCONSTRUCTION5 жыл бұрын
g7003041 I wish the auto manufacturers would get that so they can put better engines in these vehicles other that Turbocharged fuel thirsty engines just to give you torque off the line
@supadoopa9265 жыл бұрын
I love my F-150, but I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if it got 3 or 4 more miles per gallon.
@workingcountry17765 жыл бұрын
But the whole point of the very expensive turbo 4 cyl is mpg. A 3.3 or 3.7 from the F150 and Transit would be nice and offer better mpg
@tactickleshtooper17535 жыл бұрын
You missed one "Jeep owners don't care about safety ratings either" ;-)
@whoeever5 жыл бұрын
EPA tests are done around 55 mph.
@benjaminwayneb5 жыл бұрын
EPA mileage testing is done at less then 60 mph.
@occckid1235 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. My car is rated at 39mpg on the hwy but its easy to get 40mpg going 70mph or better. I get 46-52 mpg at 60mph in a nissan altima
@benjaminwayneb5 жыл бұрын
@@occckid123 Look it up! EPA testing is done at less then 60 mph.
@MrClownWorld5 жыл бұрын
benjaminwayneb nah they don’t because he doesn’t think so. So there!
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
Aww.. Keep crying Ford soyboi!
@ZRubidium5 жыл бұрын
THIS! Little do people know that EPA numbers are based on 60mph, when most people drive at 80mph that changes a lot.
@nlitenurmind5 жыл бұрын
Still happy and still avg. 20-21mpg in '17 gen. II 3.5 EcoBoost f150. So glad I didn't wait around for anything else...
@goombakiwi5 жыл бұрын
Ten years ago(August), I honeymooned at glacier National park; with a 1997 Lincoln Mk VIII. While there, I found premium non ethanol gas. Doing the speed limit of 75 with the AC on and on roads built for God (Montana knows how to build roads); I got 33 mpg heading to Billings. That Lincoln was essentially a Cobra Mustang in a tuxedo and I never saw mileage that good. Between Billings and Twin falls; 30. Between Twin falls and Pendleton; 28. Between Pendleton and Portland; doing 60 with no AC and back to ethanol =26. I do think that good fuel (which Oregon doesn't have) is a major contributor to good mpg. Couple that with good roads (another thing Oregon doesn't have) and things can be dramatically different.
@johnhill74804 жыл бұрын
The mark viii was a great vehicle would get 20 city 30 highway out of a 95 lsc 130k+ miss that car hauled ass.
@Kenny15945 жыл бұрын
Took my 2015 2.7L 2wd f150 from North Dakota to Ohio average 21.5mpg hauling about 1500 lbs of people and stuff.
@HunkerRBB5 жыл бұрын
Your comments regarding the Ranger’s MPG seem much more forgiving than the comparable video on the Ram Rebel!!!!
@dochollywood19215 жыл бұрын
Honestly though. Maybe it’s cuz they actually purchased the ram rebel as opposed to being given the ranger to test
@montgomery71525 жыл бұрын
I think that to avoid the view that they are Ram Fanboys they go extra hard on the Ram when it doesn't meet the advertised standards.
@PeterPacia824 жыл бұрын
Just got my 2020 Larait 4x4 with the FX4 package, so far I'm averaging 50/50 split hwy and city and sitting at 10.8L/100km over 400kms distance. Not complaining at all especially with Toronto traffic.
@06RedfireGT5 жыл бұрын
Whether the EPA rating is off or not, it still got better highway MPG than my 2WD 3rd gen Tacoma on flat ground at sea level.
@melrose92525 жыл бұрын
Al Cala You are a liar, you don’t have a Tacoma. You are trying the old Troll trick. Give up the Kool-Aid trick.
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
Pickuptrucks.com tested new Ranger and found that its MPG was slightly less than current Tacoma... More real-world numbers are starting to come out, we'll see then.
@06RedfireGT5 жыл бұрын
@@melrose9252 You're right, I don't have one. Any more. That truck was terrible and I'm glad it's gone. I had a 2016 Tacoma DCSB TRD Sport V6 2WD for three years and 29k miles.
@06RedfireGT5 жыл бұрын
@@NukePooch1 I averaged 16/20 city/highway in my V6 Tacoma. I would be okay if the Ranger just matched that because the 2.3 Ecoboost is a much better power plant for a truck than the gutless Toyota 3.5.
@nickschaps40225 жыл бұрын
The mileage on my 13’ f150 can literally change by 6-7 mpg depending on hills, wind direction, and for sure my speed. I get 4 mpg better doing 60mph than I do going 80mph. I’m not saying this truck gets 24mpg, but I’m saying that the fact you guys drove uphill the whole trip and were going 80mph for large portions doesn’t mean the truck isn’t capable of 24mph.
@1drummer1725 жыл бұрын
What are the assumptions for the 24 MPG spec.? Elevation, MPH, and other factors impact actual MPG.🤷♂️ My point is, why are you expecting the same result if you’re driving the vehicle in a manner different than the assumptions?!🤷♂️
@bigretardhalo5 жыл бұрын
I think the EPA highway test is at 60 MPH if I remember right.
@alexcosentino46495 жыл бұрын
1Drummer The EPA highway test is done at sea level, the average speed of the test is 48.3 mph, the maximum speed is 60 mph, and the acceleration endured is 3.2 mph/second. The simulated distance is 10.3 miles over a span of 12 minutes and 45 seconds. The engine is started warm and the air conditioning isn’t on. The lab temperature can apparently be anywhere from 68-86 degrees Fahrenheit. There are also no simulated stops along the test duration. That was from the fueleconomy.gov website.
@willie93975 жыл бұрын
flat ground, 1 person in the cab, no wind, straight line, windows up, bed empty and all season tires now real world, climbing hills while passing the slow fuckers with a full bed, four people inside towing a trailer in shitty weather with 33s installed, sure mpgs will be off, its going to be different for everyone, unsure if you want to get one rent one for a weekend use it the way you normally would, its better than being stuck with a vehicle you cant live with
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
I think Ford's assumptions for their entire Ecoboost lineup is to have the vehicle in neutral, engine idling, and push it out the back of a cargo plane. When it hits the ground, calculate MPG.
@alliejr5 жыл бұрын
Just google "EPA mileage test" and you can see the exact EPA test- which is not 80 mph on an uphill highway. But TFL is more "real world" than the EPA. And as Roman points out in the video, the EPA itself does not test the vehicles, the manufacturers are responsible more or less on honor system. But there are always "cheaters" such as, in recent years, Ford, Koreans and famously VW.
@Reaver15 жыл бұрын
Just want to say thanks for the real world review and stating, that most of what you put the Ranger through IS NOT factored into EPA ratings. I like that you guys are willing to state that fact and actually put the vehicles through real world places. Thanks again guys you are awesome.
@jimmykame5 жыл бұрын
Just saying my brother in laws taco has never been above 17 mpg
@OtterPup_5 жыл бұрын
Idk why, but I love videos with Nathan in them. They always cheer me up , don’t get me wrong tho i love everyone at TFL
@great07895 жыл бұрын
I heard him say on one of the stretches of tests that he was cruising @ 80mph. During the Winter on Winter fuel (Less energy per gallon). If the tires were not properly inflated that can make a large difference as well (Set the PSI @ the correct level while tires are cool... the climb much higher when warmed). These things can add up to poor fuel economy. If I set the cruise on my Colorado to 80mph at the same time of year I would likely see the same fuel economy with headwinds and climbing altitudes. However, setting the cruise on flat ground @55mph during the Summer I can see the instant fuel economy readings hover around 32 to 35mpg. I have 4wd and the V6. I bet the Ranger is the same way.
@sams15505 жыл бұрын
My only question is... who buys a 4x4 for fuel economy? 🤷♂️
@austinryder72654 жыл бұрын
Fuel economy matters you asshole. Its not my fucken falt they did not put a diesel in it. If you want to buy a 4x4 and get good gas mileage get a diesel you ass hole.
@Jv199793 жыл бұрын
My question who buys a 2wd
@tolane765 жыл бұрын
My question is why was the MPG edit out of the first video??? Was it to save face of the Ranger??
@JohnJones-ty6fj5 жыл бұрын
First question I asked myself as well.
@MrClownWorld5 жыл бұрын
T logically.. so they can make another 10 min video
@revgordon915 жыл бұрын
They wanted to make another video.
@rob7725 жыл бұрын
Love the TFL guys, but it's concerning that they didn't publish the data originally. There is a loss of some credibility here.
@MrClownWorld5 жыл бұрын
Rob they need that sweet sweet KZbin money
@kdtune335 жыл бұрын
old ranger was a bullet proof workhorse,if this truck is anywhere near as reliable it'll be worth every penny
@Shadow_Wolf_1905 жыл бұрын
datrelle g we’ll find out in time
@jibrilsarabi29085 жыл бұрын
You are correct, old Ranger was the best small truck out there, we will see about the new one.
@Sir......5 жыл бұрын
you guys arent driving 55-60mph... so that "highway" rating doesnt exactly apply
@SC-mq1eh5 жыл бұрын
IKR! i think he said that avg like 80mph!! no way does EPA or a mfg rate their mpg at that speed!
@devon97125 жыл бұрын
You guys are crushing this segment on fuel economy for trucks, excellent work you guys have clearly been working hard!
@Tainted795 жыл бұрын
It's nothing to complain about. But I do find it funny, it gets the same milage as my 2010 Nissan frontier v6 (old faithful).
@ryanjaycocks32155 жыл бұрын
My 2011 4.0L manual Ranger extended cab averages 21.5 in a mix of city and highway on the daily. Florida elevation though.
@joshc6065 жыл бұрын
Or the same as my 2017 Nissan Titan haha
@ec38865 жыл бұрын
At 80mph your truck has that mileage? Doubtful.
@justinw.23765 жыл бұрын
My 2001 ranger with a 4.0 auto 4x4 can get 18 on the highway if it’s easy going lol
@fredflintstone47155 жыл бұрын
I wish my 98 Ranger (4X4, 4.0 manual) would get 20. Usually around 17 or 18 combined.
@calecrenshaw13855 жыл бұрын
I got a 19 gmc at4 with the 6.2 and I got 21.6 driving from Yukon, OK to right outside of Houston, TX. Man I love that truck
@dearmeat53865 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be a Ford fan boy, but if you tested it between 55-65 your numbers would go up closer to their posted numbers
@MrClownWorld5 жыл бұрын
Being correct isn’t being a fanboy. Agreed.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
Aww.. That's not what you Ford soybois were claiming with the ram. 🤣🤣🤦♂️ nothing but a bunch of hypocrites!
@cowboytwang5 жыл бұрын
TFL is doing "real world" testing by going the actually speed limit on the highway. Sure you can risk getting rear ended by a semitruck by going 25 MPH under the posted speed just to prove a point, but then you might as well buy a Prius.
@CliffWarren5 жыл бұрын
I once met a man who was very much into restoring old Model T’s. He had at least a half dozen of them, including a pickup version of the T. He actually used it to aid in some property management activities that he had. Maybe 30 horsepower and 35 to 40 mph top speed. Extremely light compared to today’s vehicles. I asked what mpg he was getting. 20 mpg! Some things never change.
@Hiluxtaco5 жыл бұрын
Your worst leg was at altitude, into a headwind, with some snowy conditions. Plus driving mile after mile at 70-80 mph too.. Plus, you had 2 Adult men in the truck, while a carrying crapload of gear on board. Averaging 20 MPG wasn't bad at all...
@BrandonContracting5 жыл бұрын
So in order to remediate the problems you stated, you must drive only at sea level, only when it's calm out, sunshine only, drive 69mph or slower, have very dainty men or jockeys weighing less than 120lbs driving the vehicle with little to no extra cargo in the truck. Then and only then should you expect the EPA number on the sticker.
@drivinforalivin69455 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonContracting yeaaa that's how EPA does it........ or atleast the automakers do it to get the best MPG lol
@Hiluxtaco5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonContracting I don't know where you drew those conclusions. I am not bashing their results at all...
@alexgarcia39005 жыл бұрын
I just got a 2004 2.3 manual ranger and fuel economy is amazing! No other truck can come close! It gets high 20s. Never owned a small truck before but I love this little ranger. I think I'm selling my tundra.
@red1inerr1135 жыл бұрын
This test was pure rubbish. 80 mph with a 4x4 and you're saying you are not hitting the epa numbers? Anything over 70mph and you will start to see the number drop dramatically. Come back in a few days with a real test.
@BHUFF3 жыл бұрын
Kind of test i was looking for, since I rarely drive under 80 on the highway this real world info is appreciated.
@sixtyfiveford5 жыл бұрын
Octane requirements change with altitude. Altitude is essentially an octane booster with every 3500ft or so equaling 2 points. A vehicle rated for low grade fuel, 87 octane(sea level) can run 85 octane at 3500+ ft elevation. It works the same for a high performance car rated to run 93 octane. You won't find anything but 91 at gas stations in high elevation cities because that is all that is necessary.
@mylexicon25 жыл бұрын
Except the Ranger and many cars are now turbocharged, and the electronically-controlled turbo systems can adjust for altitude to maintain cylinder pressure. Thankfully, they can also adjust for low-octane gas to avoid pre-detonation, but you're sacrificing performance, and relying on the electronics to protect your engine.
@Jv199795 жыл бұрын
Cold weather really makes your mpg go down my vw jetta can get 600 miles on a tank in the summer but in winter on 520 miles
@bck4rnd265 жыл бұрын
80 mph is a ridiculous speed when attempting to calculate mpg. Come on guys you are better than this.
@ferminsalas97725 жыл бұрын
Doing an awesome job. If I need answer for real world results, your channel is it. Been subscribed for almost two years. Great work.
@T.E.D...5 жыл бұрын
Obviously driving uphill is decreasing your gas mileage! 😂
@colincameron62635 жыл бұрын
Given the conditions it was driven in i am surprised it is that good . I have had 4 diesel rangers in New Zealand and they are brilliant trucks, My last one got 7.5 liters per hundred kms. The one i tow with and use on the farm did 11 liters per hundred kms so driving conditions make a big difference.
@snakedr675 жыл бұрын
Do you guys ever factor in your combined body weight?
@springfield03sniper5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but being a 4 door truck, it could realistically have 4 or 5 people in it.
@lawnguy32675 жыл бұрын
This test is totally bogus. EPA testing is done with 1 person in the vehicle and at max speeds of 60 MPH.
@emptyshirt5 жыл бұрын
Got 27 mpg in my 2001 Ranger with the 4 cylinder, a short cab and bed, 2WD, and with the manual transmission on that road a couple years ago. I don't think anyone should be surprised by this new result considering how that engine has been doing in Mustangs for the past few years.
@GTurbski5 жыл бұрын
Something else the monroney doesn't tell you is the speed of the highway testing. They test at 55mph! Obviously at 70 your fuel economy is going to be much worse.
@ryanmcfarland19005 жыл бұрын
G I don't think that is correct. Every Honda I've owned gets within 1 mpg of the sticker doing 70-75mph. At 55mph I get 20% better than the sticker.
@GTurbski5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmcfarland1900 yes, think about that though. The aerodynamics on that vehicle are less of a factor at higher speeds. A vehicle like this ranger or any truck for that matter has far more frontal area. Drag force increases with the square of the velocity and a greater drag coefficient, which, between the two can be almost 30% higher in a truck.
@robertheinkel62255 жыл бұрын
Ryan McFarland Agree completely. My Odyssey gets 30 mpg driving at 60. Bump it up to 70 and it drops to 25. Anything above 72 comes at a big drop in mileage, so I set my cruise at 72. I have tracked all my gas and mileage in the past 80k, so I have an actual spreadsheet to base it in.
@everydayirace5 жыл бұрын
my old ranger gets 28mpg at 60mph and 22mpg at 80mph, speed and temperature has a big effect on mpg.
@alanz30245 жыл бұрын
TFL like always bashing on Ford
@jaredstephenson64685 жыл бұрын
I have to say, too, for what it’s worth, the break-in period is huge. I have purchased four new vehicles this year and they all got abysmal gas mileage until the accumulated about 5k on each. After that, they all got their estimated mileage or better; in some cases they were significantly better.
@GeeBigSup5 жыл бұрын
Once again, are the EPA standards based on MPH average of 55MPH ?
@Gazziza295 жыл бұрын
Hard to make any conclusion off that review. That stretch of I-80 has a 80mph limit and there is always crosswinds. I drive that quite often and my 4Runner takes a huge penalty in MPG on I-80. I honestly like to draft behind a semi-truck going 70-75mph on that stretch and keep it easy.
@marcuscorvain12045 жыл бұрын
Just curious what you feel the average highway speed maintained was throughout the trip?
@TFLtruck5 жыл бұрын
Final average speed was 54 MPH after 1,147 miles. It included stopping in Moab. But we followed speed limits on the highway between 65-80 MPH.
@marcuscorvain12045 жыл бұрын
@@TFLtruck so overall not horrible milage but @65 for where I live 24 could probably be achieved with a lighter right foot
@WOWayne3255 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscorvain1204 yeah.. those are best MPG results.. for example, flat roads, no extra baggage, driving with a light foot and probably the tires several pounds over inflated...
@John76546-x5 жыл бұрын
How much weight was in the truck? Almost 500# with two adult males and luggage from a stay in Los Angeles.
@stevencruz49375 жыл бұрын
@@TFLtruck Temp affects fuel economy, I have seen 20% drop in the winter. can you try your 100 mile loop at 55 MPH, at room temp.
@davidhoover24465 жыл бұрын
Most of the time EPA testing for trucks doesn't include rolling at 70 miles per hour down the interstate for the whole tank from what I understand. They use a mixture of speeds . And with a pickup truck wind drag is terrible at 70 but if you slow down at all then the gas mileage goes up a lot. I've noticed over the years that trucks don't usually hit their Highway MPG number when driving 70 miles per hour but cars do. However in a truck you can exceed the highway mileage if you're going let's say 50 miles per hour which is still at highway speed.
@billymc26815 жыл бұрын
I think TFL is a great channel and the videos are great. That being said, they are making too much of this.... Considering the conditions, high winds, driving up hill, 80mph and the snow....the numbers aren't that bad. No way any mid size pickup in those same conditions will get its EPA advertised mpg.
@donleamon86535 жыл бұрын
Bigger issue, they made two episodes about it, this one is just a rehash of clips from a previous vid with Roman doing a voiceover. Viewbait is all it is.
@revgordon915 жыл бұрын
I agree
@stevegabbert96265 жыл бұрын
2003 Ranger here, with the 4L engine, 2W drive and I average 20 to 21 around town. I love the smaller size.
@tylerharvey82995 жыл бұрын
Uphill, snow, and altitude. Seems accurate the gasoline mileage wont be very high 😂
@KreatorStudios5 жыл бұрын
They were going 80. If I’m not mistaken, the EPA numbers are calculated at a slower speed, like 65-70. Something like that. Every little bit faster makes a significant difference. It is the same with every car.
@benjaminwayneb5 жыл бұрын
EPA testing is done at less then 60 mph.
@PopEye23845 жыл бұрын
Mmmm.... i own a new Ford Endeavour which is a SUV based on the Ranger in India, having a displacement of 3.2 lt (200 bhp, 470 NM) with a six speed AT tranny.... i usually do around 1300 kms each month, at sea level, and i am getting FE of 12.7 kmpl (around 29 mpg) in the hot humid conditions of India..... that too with a low grade diesel ...... ofcourse i normaly go for sedated driving, maintaining speeds in the range of 75 to 90 kmph....
@skileg105 жыл бұрын
Not even fair. That is a diesel we do not get those here. This is a gasoline ranger waaay different.
@howardkerr81745 жыл бұрын
@@skileg10 Ford "says" that they are considering a diesel for this generation of Ranger in the US.... BTW, you would be amazed by the vehicles available with diesel engines that are sold in the US, but WITHOUT the diesel option. Subaru markets a diesel in other countries, Honda offers the CR-V with a diesel. And here is a real shocker, the European version of the Ford Fusion is sold with an optional diesel AND a manual transmission AND there is an available station wagon not sold in the US. For that matter, the Edge sold in Europe has an available diesel and manual transmission as do the Fiesta and Focus.
@Davido505 жыл бұрын
It did really well actually Its not a lite truck esp.. FX4! I'm glad I bought a new Ranger XLT FX4. Amazing truck.
@workingcountry17765 жыл бұрын
So a Nissan Frontier with old proven reliable 4.0L v6 and 6 speed manual gets better real world MPG than a "state of the art" brand new truck? A v6 auto Frontier will get 19-20 mpg on hwy. My 2007 Ranger with a 4.0L 4x4, auto trans, 230k miles, LT rated all terrain tires, and a bed full of tools gets over 18mpg regularly. It has done close to 20mpg keeping speed below 60 on long drive on back roads. This literally makes me sick. I know they tested an off road truck but it has 10 gears. My truck has a 5 speed auto with AWFUL computer logic small tires, 3.73 gears,and near vertical windshield. How am I only 1 mpg off behind with my avg and tie my best????
@Sir......5 жыл бұрын
they said they were going 80mph....
@cfharrier5 жыл бұрын
One thing I think is missing in the discussions is the driving conditions during the test. Utah's speed limits on that section of interstate are 75mph. In Colorado 4x4 was used pulling passes 10k' in elevation. These driving conditions are much different than a level road at 55mph. I think a truck going 80mph against the wind , relative velocity is 90+ mph , and get 18mph is actually not bad.
@rockn7115 жыл бұрын
When you guys do mpg testing, do you use cruise control and what speed do you guys travel at?
@TFLtruck5 жыл бұрын
We always use cruise control for these trips. Average speed after 1,147 miles was about 54 MPH. We are traveling at speed limit for a trip like this. Our 100 mile MPG loop is always at 70 MPH.
@Joeyhurt19905 жыл бұрын
I will say I track milage with every tank and with my 2015 fusion with the 2.0 Ecoboost I thought the thing was broken when it was new, because it was rated to 34 mpg and ill I could achieve was 28. After the first 20,000 miles or so I was able to average about 32 with no problem. I think these Ecoboost motors have a pretty extended break in period.
@rockn7115 жыл бұрын
I got a 2008 4runner and i get 16 on the highway. Kinda disappointing gas mileage but i guess that's the price i pay for having sn older truck.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk5 жыл бұрын
Nick Cerbone I have a 2018 limited that I get between 19-20. However, after 8,000 miles, I smell oil burning and now have a knock in the engine, roof liner had to be replaced, dash has to be replaced, all the lug nuts have to be replaced, driver door has to be repaired and my overhead console has to be replaced, with my windshield being scratched beyond belief. I'm not very happy at all, especially since this thing was built in Japan where they pride themselves on being the best.
@Lodoz5 жыл бұрын
The mpg ratings are for 55mph.
@OliG25 жыл бұрын
Your real world MPG, going up hill, with a lot of wind at many times, snow, etc. at 70-80 MPH, with an FX4 (no chin spoiler) was EXCELLENT! Great job Ford with this 2.3 EB!
@ia6980 Жыл бұрын
No its a terrible job from Ford! My 22 fx4 gets 16-18mpg, for such small truck numbers are terrible! F-150 gets better mpg how in the world is that possible? Dissapointed! Get f-150 instead
@joeracer44825 жыл бұрын
You fools! Best gas milage (everyone knows this) is at 50-55 mph! NOT 75-80 try it again!
@johnnylawrence5 жыл бұрын
Just be sure to get your ass in the right lane and stay there at your 55mph
@airtexaco5 жыл бұрын
Truth. My 2.7 2018 at 55 mph gets in the high 20’s and is a full size truck. Tows 7600 lbs as well.
@nbaldo0034 жыл бұрын
Dean Ainsworth Damn my Taco can almost tow that much while getting high 20s
@Bushy5565 жыл бұрын
As a head lab tech for a major oil company, the gas that is used for mpg testing in Detroit is a grade that’s unavailable for the general public. The refinery where I work used to make it. It has even tighter specs than normal gasoline. That may have a little to do with it but it’s not gonna make a massive difference.
@jeffreysmall89025 жыл бұрын
This nothing new car manufacturers been misleading mpg for years the Ford claims F150 gets 21 mpg
@thatguy-ye7pb5 жыл бұрын
What's misleading about that the best I've gotten on a long road trip in my 15 f150 cc 4x4 was 26 hand calculated
@marcusworld875 жыл бұрын
The EcoBoost actually does
@ericjensen90915 жыл бұрын
I get 21mpg on highway with my 2009 F150 4.6 liter. Unfortunately most guys buy way more truck than they actually need.
@Moby_d-k9p5 жыл бұрын
For the 2.7 f150 it is. Its rated for 23 hwy on a 4x4 model, and I usually do 21-22 hwy pretty consistently.
@justinw.23765 жыл бұрын
My dad has the 2.7 in a 16 and constantly gets minimum of 21 on the highway. 23 easily if he’s easy on that right pedal. The f150 gets what it claims np
@juanzavala44693 жыл бұрын
I recently did a trip from Salinas, CA to hermosillo, mexico (just sound of tucson, AZ). Crossed 3 mountain passes. Averaged 19.5mpg. Going a bit above 80. 2020 Ford Ranger FX4. On the way back i tried going 65-75mph definitely increased my mpgs into the 21s...
@mrtamegm Жыл бұрын
Please note that UNL88 is E15 with a little less energy so lesser mpg made sense for 2nd leg. Please note advantage of this fuel is that it doesn’t have 20-30% BTEX which is the nasty stuff that is in regular “reformulated” 87/85 octane that turn it yellow.
@murphtheirishmanmurphy72685 жыл бұрын
Real world! Real world! Real world! I’m a broken record...
@daedalus90425 жыл бұрын
Great video. I did a similar test driving about 2300 miles in the 2019 Ford Ranger from Seattle to Los Angeles and back. I did get 24 on some stretches but averaged about 22 MPG. Similar conditions as well, mountains, wind, and snow. However not the elevation gain you guys had. The manual does state for high elevations to use 91 so might be a factor. Check out my 2000 miles in the Ranger video on my channel for more details.
@patmason72765 жыл бұрын
That's bad when full size trucks get better mileage than small trucks. I can have my f150 loaded and get better mileage.
@Sabumnim6664 жыл бұрын
Yep isn't down hill fantastic at 50 mph
@patmason72764 жыл бұрын
@@Sabumnim666 hell in the mountains it gets reaaaaaaal good. Just have to stay below 68. 10 speed helps alot.
@Ultratron1005 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. Took my 2.7 s-crew STX 4x4 on a 1200 mile round trip vacation. Was a mix of interstate, back roads, city, headwinds, tailwinds and idling. One leg would be 14mpg, another would be 24mpg. Gas was always E10 or E15. Total combined average was 20 mpg. Oh..and got a couple of waves from cute girls driving by. I'm keeping my F-150
@lexmaximaguy87885 жыл бұрын
Well usually mpg will improve with the first oil change...usually.
@mattdavies30235 жыл бұрын
LEX Maximaguy87 since it’s first oil change my f150 has got worse. Dropping from 17.8mpg to 14.5mpg around town and 23mpg to 18.5mpg on a run (truck figures). I do agree that it ‘should’ be the other way around though 🙂
@benisallbiznoway3985 жыл бұрын
I found that 6/7 of my new vehicles would just get the city advertised gas mileage until after breaking in period.
@lexmaximaguy87885 жыл бұрын
@@mattdavies3023 Oh wow that's a pretty steep drop...Cold weather does affects mpg. Everything is in check right...tire pressure fluids etc...
@mattdavies30235 жыл бұрын
LEX Maximaguy87 agreed absolutely. Different time of year, running heat here in Chicago instead of AC etc. lots of variables. It’s now just passed the 10k mark so I will get another oil change soon and see if that changes anything moving back into the summer 🙂
@lexmaximaguy87885 жыл бұрын
@@mattdavies3023 Whats the full spec on your truck...My 2016 sierra 2wd with the 4,3l v6 i can get 17-19mpg in the city with it. Even during the cold snaps it gets no lower than 16.5mpg city. I live in bucks county pennsylvania.
@everyhousetellsastory82315 жыл бұрын
Have you guys noticed that MPG goes up with higher altitude. I just finished a vacation with my wife. We drove from Dallas to Red River NM in my 2016 Colorado 4wd, Z71 Crew Longbed. Our mileage sucked going to NM because I was in a hurry and had my foot into it a lot. On the fill-up leg in New Mexico, I used cruise control and got 25.5 mpg on the tank headed into the mountains and coming back to Raton NM and 19.5 on the second tank in Texas.
@briantracy13245 жыл бұрын
7:04 "at 80 mph" ,,, you knuckleheads .. 80mph for a fuel economy run in a truck? back it off to whatever the EPA specified... what's that 60/65 or so?
@patricklondon60064 жыл бұрын
I take anything these knuckleheads do with a grain of salt!
@85MasterV5 жыл бұрын
I drive from Tucson to Phoenix and back on I10 all the time.. even with the very slight decrease in elevation (2300 ft to 500 ft across 140 miles) I get 3 MPG better in my old V8 truck going down!
@bigbossman59695 жыл бұрын
im shure when they did the test for epa fuel economy they weren't driving up hill of course your going to get worse fuel economy
@daghostxxx17973 жыл бұрын
They do the test in a laboratory, no wind, no incline, tires all up to max, etc, its an unrealistic environment !
@horsekiller685 жыл бұрын
Are you people serious ? Run a Prius uphill and into the wind and it's not going to get its advertised mileage either .
@DWCONSTRUCTION5 жыл бұрын
Toyota Tacoma or Chevy Colorado over the new Ranger Please.
@justinpeterson87545 жыл бұрын
I’ve drive the stretch between St. George and Green River. It has two huge mountain climbs and San Rafael Swell is one hill after another. I’m not surprised by the lower MPG.
@tsnorquist5 жыл бұрын
My 2017 Tacoma 4x4 is averaging about 23MPG on the highway with a fully loaded bed. Sad ford.... sad.
@drivinforalivin69455 жыл бұрын
Do you live in CO
@xpressh515 жыл бұрын
2017 Tacoma 4x4 SR v/6 shortbed summertime blend here in Cincinnati, expressway driving have got as high as 25.8 most of time 25.4 around 20 1/2 city. wintertime around 23 1/2 expressway. I thought the Ranger would get more.
@eduardobadgerpaz21305 жыл бұрын
I usually get the Same on my Tacoma sr double cab 4x4
@JackReid20565 жыл бұрын
Thanks for becoming a drama channel!
@phredkost5 жыл бұрын
Slightly uphill on a long trip can make a huge difference. In my daily commute of 35 miles each direction there is a difference of only 500 feet in elevation but it's basically down hill one way and up the other way. My mileage varies from 42 MPG to 34 MPG. Head or tail winds can make a several MPG difference. Other factors can also vary the numbers such as temperature, humidity, road surface, tire pressure, age of engine oil, A/C and perspiration. Driving habits and of course speed are also big factors. I drive a 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Diesel. EPA highway 42 MPG. The best mileage I ever got on a trip was 48 MPG. The test drive in the video was not very scientific, still somewhat interesting. Driving 80 MPH lowered their MPG.
@decafam34105 жыл бұрын
NON STORY. this is borderline CNN 'news', 19.5 uphill bad weather? that is just fine. Click-bait. glad i'm using my add blocker
@jaykelley37075 жыл бұрын
Considering conditions, that's pretty good mileage and about right for an EPA truck rated for 24mpg highway.
@ayadalmasyabi69135 жыл бұрын
Just buy Tacoma or Frontier
@ryanphelps92845 жыл бұрын
Shocking!!! I also get under 15 mpg from Boulder up to Summit County. Who’d have thought you’d get crappy mileage gaining 6,000 feet.
@MrRunYimmy5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy a truck with a bed shorter than 6ft anyways! Especially when the cab is bigger than the bed! I drive a real truck, not a car truck!