'Unholy mess!' - Score review system in serious question post weekend blunder I AFL 360 I Fox Footy

The AFL 360 panel react to the weekends umpire error and what's the best way to move forward from consistent score review errors.
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[@WillyWanka]

Seeing the fans footage from behind the goals WOW wtf it missed by a foot! and he had a clear view. That guy should be sacked immediately.

[@yacobshelelshaddai4543]

I understand we make mistakes but wtf did he see?? Delusional!

[@sweetsour6350]

if this was south america that goal umpire would of been assasinated by now

[@lintonburgess5392]

Should be a given really

[@normally9210]

Lots of dodgy weak throw ins that seem to favour one team cant bounce the ball either

[@haydenarthur3392]

“The best angle is from a punter on their phone” sums up how much the AFL has actually invested into their VAR system, as opposed to other sporting bodies.

[@alexanderletzing6705]

Love that it's the next blokes job and Gill has nothing to answer for despite overseeing this disgrace for at least 10 years

[@khsghsjf5161]

I mean I’m any business there always problems arising and the next person always has to look after it so it happens

[@dragonoftheeast695]

Seems a tad unfair

[@jimmyriddle5246]

He's got big hair. That's all that counts

[@noproblama9971]

Gills the most useless, overpaid, overvalued moron ceo in the history of the world!

[@HorizonOfHope]

All he cares about is his bonus and next job. It’s why he can make stupid decisions like a garbage new broadcast deal and a 19th club while so many clubs are struggling because he knows he doesn’t have to actually deal with the consequences.

[@ultraxsandrine1703]

great vision and editing at the start, gave me chills and made me angry again

[@AndrewsCards]

Maybe if the AFL wasn't so obsessed with the "flow" of the game they could actually make some correct calls! I like the idea of every score within the last 2mins to be reviewed.

[@imalwaysright]

This! They’re sacrificing the integrity of the scoreboard and game by wanting to have quick play ons and drama. But commentators complaining about goal reviews and length has been a problem too - they complain about reviews then complain when this indictment happens

[@AndrewsCards]

@@imalwaysright 100 percent agree.

[@travellerandwriter]

the integrity of the game has been dragged through the mud over the last 5 years, the implementation of new rules is even more shambolic than the review system

[@travellerandwriter]

Whatever the AFL’s views are on politically or moral issues, they have no business pushing those views onto fans or players at anytime.

[@imalwaysright]

@@sweetsour6350 if it was woke, they'd reverse the decision or do a replay match or give Crows points or something else than the position they've taken. You tried it.

[@imalwaysright]

Gerard laid it out perfectly The fancam behind the goals is damning!!

[@snipee-mi5jl]

crows supporter here, never have i felt more upset and angry after a game, i was sitting in the nosebleeds of the riverbank stand, and it was a clear as day goal even from there, i actually can’t accept that the goal umpire could have possibly thought that was a point, utterly disgraceful

[@antoninoorfano8187]

Don't get me started Richmond vs Brisbane last year.

[@RS-qy8pk]

Could have been 7 teams actively playing for a position in the eight. Due to one non-call to make use of a technology, only three teams will be fighting for a place in the eight.

[@MrPezzzz]

you need higher fps cameras for replays afl, the frame skips sometimes are too big.

[@andrewwhite6586]

If it was a Collingwood game there would still be rioting, and rightly so.

[@evehsv5556]

Exactly right. We would never have taken this laying down not a Fkn chance.

[@pcorf]

@@evehsv5556 Imagine if it happened to Collingwood in the Grand Final this year (if they get there). They'd burn the stadium down.

[@evehsv5556]

@@pcorf For sure Buddy. Do the right thing nothing happens do the wrong thing and chaos erupts. 😂😂😂

[@soppingclam]

Crows had 3 games lost by goal reviews showing not touched but the review comes back as touched. Then there was the last Collingwood game should have got a blatant free kick in front of goal but was ignored. Such a crock. The team that beats all the top team gets screwed by AFL all the damn time. Considering I am a Collingwood supporter, I feel for them. A team that never gets frees in their forward 50m and could win the flag with their young squad. Ah well Lucky they didn't make it in!

[@TheBestPlayer531]

Yeah us Crows could of done some damage

[@davidagiel8130]

All of this could be implemented and makes sense, there doesn't need to be a soft call, all goals can be reviewed immediately and if the umpire got it wrong they can ring the siren, stop play, call the correct score and reset the timer. Players/captains should also be able to call for a video review.

[@moocher9935]

The only thing with Players & Captains calling for a review ... I can clearly see already in my mind that it will be used as a delaying tactic especially when it's a close game... Not allowing for the attacking side to try & move the ball quickly... I do totally agree with everything else 👍👍👍

[@THOOODAI]

@@moocher9935Agree, it’s a grey area that essentially implements a “timeout” If there is a captain review, where teams can reset their structure. Not sure what the best option going forward is.

[@Sterkleton_]

@@moocher9935 If you were to make it that the Captain only has 1 strike on a call for video review. Then if the request was determined to be a correct request, they keep their video request. If they are wrong about the request then they no longer can use it. Pretty simple way to make it so that it cant be abused.

[@moocher9935]

@@Sterkleton_ again I agree to a point with your philosophy but again... If it's a tight game & the review has not been used then it could still be used as delaying tac tic

[@user-dz1us8vn2r]

​@@Sterkleton_the only fair way is that all goals get reviewed... don't want a goal to be reviewed, then don't let the opposition have a shot on goal. If you do then put up with a goal being reviewed.

[@andrewrobinson9279]

Two umpire mistakes cost Adelaide 2 games this year, and a finals appearance. They should be in the 8 now. It’s NOT GOOD enough! Even the NRL do it better with captains challenges and score reviews.

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

that's right, the AFL is so far behind the times and with so much money being made, that they can afford to improve the technology. It isn't just the Crows that have been robbed because of poor umpiring on the goal line, other teams have been screwed as well. for a professional sport that is the AFL, these sorts of issues are sub-standard, and are in need of serious fixing, they cannot have fan footage that is far superior to their technology, as the optics of it is terrible.

[@darrenmiles-morland8038]

It's not the umpiring decisions. Adelaide are still a developing team, and part of their development is needing to learn to play harder and tougher for longer. This is all part of a learning experience for them. If they are good enough they will benefit greatly from the setbacks that they have experienced this season. Look at what happened with Geelong a year or two later after they led all night in the 2005 Semi Final against the Swans in Sydney, only to have Nick Davis steal the lead off them and put the Swans in front with just seconds remaining. They won 3 flags from 4 Grand Final appearances in 5 years.

[@davewalsh9802]

@@darrenmiles-morland8038that is called distraction and deflection - politicians try that on all the time.

[@Josh_JKL]

The phone behind the goals being the best footage is not correct. The first angle they showed in this video it was clearly a goal, if they reviewed that, the technology would have got it right!

[@matthewpowell9403]

Afl fined a club 100k for not properly doing concussion tests. How much should afl have to pay for not correctly doing a review?

[@tonycarey1735]

It's probably useless speculation, but I wonder what would have happened if this scenario was repeated for a big Victorian club. I doubt if 'Oops, sorry chaps, move on' would cut it.

[@danmitch5085]

It literally happened to Melbourne the week before. Goal was called touched in the dying moments when it wasn’t. Cost Melbourne the game

[@jeffd05defive57]

Seriously, this has been a problem for years and should have been addressed at the beginning as the pictures look almost like a child's painting. It never was good enough and the system was never good enough, but now that it has affected a teams finals chances, it has become an issue. This was always going to happen, should have been addressed from the start.

[@travellerandwriter]

yep, the AFL has been asleep at the wheel on this for 15 years, now the bus has crashed and Adelaide have to pay the price.

[@100percentsurf]

The new rule should be if it hits the post and goes in its a goal. If it hits the point posts and goes in its a point. If it hits any post and goes back on the field the ball stays in play. All that has to be reviewed then is that the ball has gone past the posts and that it has not been touched. If the umpire is not sure about it being touched then the call should be done by the review system. If that is not conclusive then its a goal. This minimizes umpire error and umpire manipulation.

[@PeterAtkinson]

100% agree, need to be removing the grey area from our game. To suspend the umpire over one bad call when there should be policies/procedures in place to prevent this from happening. 👍👍

[@edoniszk1615]

Not a new idea… nevertheless its a great one… lets also introduce the SANFL last touch out of bounds off the boot… two grey areas that constantly upset the paying public..now if we could ever get the holding the ball/incorrect disposal rule fixed it would again be a great game…!

[@mangoman2148]

Imagine scores are level and you have a shot after the siren. Any score will win. You hit the goal post, it bounces back into play for no score and the game ends in a draw. Meanwhile, if you had shanked the kick a further 6 metres off line and it barely scraped in for a behind, you would have won. Doesn't that seem a little silly?

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

Just get rid of posts, if you then kick it over the boundary, anywhere on the oval, it's a goal! That would be as sensible as that idea.

[@100percentsurf]

@@mangoman2148 No that's not silly. In soccer the ball has to go into the goal. If it hits the post and goes in, its a goal. If it hits the post and bounces out it is no score. Simple. Most games that have Goal posts have these rules

[@bossman1792]

I am a Carlton supporter and in the previous weeks match against Melbourne the disallowed goal from Petracca in the final minute looked like it was a goal. If the technology was up to scratch in a multi billion dollar industry, this would have probably been resolved the right way. Marchbank may have touched it but he will be the only one who really knows for sure. Technically (very technically) the field umpire could have paid a free to Marchbank for chopping of the arm however, I think if it was (and probably should have been) called a goal, I would have had no issues with that.

[@fozalinko]

I would, Marchbank isn't a liar.

[@YourFavouriteAustralian]

the thing is the soft call was a point and they couldn't tell wheteher its been touched or not so its not a dissallowed goal as the soft call was touched

[@ashleckie]

It's a sports betting nightmare also

[@craigtibbetts2925]

Tom Hickey knew that was a goal 😮

[@conkrekos4354]

I have never been an Adelaide supporter, but, the AFL in its jurisdiction and ? wisdom, should have overruled the decision and given the 4 points to the Crows. Even the crowd at the far end saw this as a goal.

[@jamescaldwell7396]

There was over a minute to go… ridiculous comment. If it was the last play then yes.

[@noproblama9971]

maybe should replay the match? what do you think the solution is?@@jamescaldwell7396

[@noproblama9971]

HAPPENED AGAIN IN THE HAWKS GAME Dylan Moore looked like he kicked a goal and umpire called a point but it needed to be reviewed that's like the day after this one!!!

[@leed9508]

The worst part is the AFL hasn't acknowledged or even posted this apology on their social media pages. I understand that Matthew Nicks doesn't want to be a pessimist and say we lost it in the 1st and 2nd quarter and not blame the umpires, but the reality is we won the game and only lost due to this monstrosity of an error BY the umpires.

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

Cricket has the review system right. In the hands of the captain of the offended side, as it bloody well should be!

[@sevmiros7016]

All this talk! So SIMPLE to fix! Thru the goal...ITS A GOAL...touch post or not! No time wasting on reviews, no mistakes!

[@DV-zv4ox]

The AFL has to implement the same system as association football/soccer. The fact that not only all goals are reviewed but potential penalties, disallowed goals and red card challenges can all be reviewed while normal play resumes shows that the system can and does work when implemented correctly. This has to happen in 2024. No excuses.

[@de1623]

Definitely should be checks on any suspicious bank transactions for both the goal umpire and field umpire. The way the goal umpire was so quick on the signal seemed really suspicious to me. I'm no crows fan either!

[@normally9210]

I also saw many boundary throw ins that favoured sydney on the western wing by the same umpire its in a lot of games

[@GK-wx6xo]

Chiefs v Bengals Championship Game last season the teams ran another play before the referee made a correction and reset the clock. Thats what should happen in the AFL.

[@matthewpowell9403]

So why wasn't human error allowed for the concussion testing? Fined the club any player should now,be able to use human error as an excuse when reported. Good enough for Gill to use that excuse why can't everyone else?

[@TheMissiIe]

AFL need a VAR, the ability to check goals well after the fact, and far more cameras and better slowmo

[@adampedley3534]

The Crows are entitled to compensation under the law, it is a walk-up start finished win case. I believe if the Crows CEO does not want to pursue this case then he needs to step down from his position or be dismissed. Any other out come is un acceptable and Crows fans could boycott future AFL matches. Negligence, it has happened before therefore it was foreseeable in the future and the AFL has done nothing to remedy. clear cut negligence.

[@kyrinstewart2445]

We still talk about the marchbank call but people don’t talk about van rooyen chopping his arm which you can’t do so would’ve been a free kick anyway

[@joshuamatthews3486]

What about the Jeremy Cameron goal against Collingwood when he got hand balled the ball while standing a meter or so over the boundary, does the AFL only care about umpiring decisions if they happen in the final stages and directly affect who wins

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

these stuff ups have happened far too often not only in this season to multiple other teams, but also in prior seasons, the AFL have enough money to imrpove the tech, such as having a hotspot system in place to ensure that the ball either doesn't touch the player, or hits the post. In the case of the Adelaide Crows, having cameras pointing downwards from the top of each goalpost. that anything close like that should immediately be sent upstairs, the reality is, this is meant to be a professional sport, these sorts of things are not good enough, which brings into play, that the AFL should allow for each team to instigate score reviews tactically, which could be a couple of score reviews per quarter, and to have a single decision review for wrong calls or non-calls anywhere on the field. for a professional sport, the umpiring at times has been shocking, having player reviews, would most likely make the umpires be a little more careful about their decisions, for a professional sport, having umpiring this bad at times, is simply not good enough, it has happened far too often this season, and in prior seasons, too many teams have been screwed over by terrible umpiring.

[@WillyWanka]

Jordan is right, what if this happens again in a final, which is possible. They will have to tweak a rule.

[@Simmo87]

Gerard used the word "unacceptable", but everyone is being asked to accept it. Perhaps not going forward, but for the rnd 23 game.

[@blueCrayon33]

Why don't they go to a review system if the game is that close and in the final minutes of s game?

[@grantknott]

I’ve commented before and I’m still disgusted with this ( I’m a Blues supporter btw) it is not just the monumental error from the goal umpire, but the field umpires are not even spoken about. They would have seen how close this was and the manifestation of Crows players celebrations. So why in the fucking hell didn’t they have it looked at?

[@chisel83]

Because shitney

[@TheGunmanChannel]

I've been saying this for years

[@fordfalcon85]

What about the high speed motion cameras MythBusters were using 20 plus years ago??!!

[@hktz1]

How is it not like the NRL, where the ARC is always watching and it's reviewed automatically?

[@JusReallyy]

Nah for games like this the last 5 mins all close scores should be reviewed. I don’t care if it takes another 20 mins

[@uwinga6192]

Put a sensor inside the footy. You will be able to check if a ball has been touched or hit the post.

[@maxshiraz3447]

I don't remember the Crows compaining about the umpiring in the 1997 semi final, when the umpires were heavily in their favor, including the Leigh Colbert mark.

[@z.p9997]

Technology didn't exist then to fix that, now it does, and they don't use it, that's the issue.

[@craigk2644]

Do u think the goal ump getting a senior game this weekend ?

[@imalwaysright]

He’s been stood down

[@Driftty]

I’m pissed.

[@thomaspiscioneri7917]

And also the tigers vs lions that final in 2022 Tom lych goal. Tigers should of won that match as it didn’t hit the post

[@TheMemeMachineMatt]

Yeah but it went over the post meaning it hit the post. Was a point the moment he decided not to kick a drop punt from 10m out.

[@troycassidy6177]

Install light curtains into the goal posts like the safety ones on machinery, surely theres a safety mob who can design one exclusively for AFL

[@daviecrockett2272]

It has been flagged all year that this technology or lack of, will cost a team their place in the final.. Well here it is, shattering.

[@Hunty49]

Even at the bare minimum they need the goal line camera to be 4K 60fps. You need better frame by frame slow motion. KZbinrs have better camera equipment.

[@travellerandwriter]

don't blame the umpire, blame this pretend system that is fundamentally flawed on many levels

[@MickDoolan]

your on what he didnt use the system you fool

[@freethugga4L]

Yeah the decision to put a multi million dollar league in the hands of one persons eyes

[@bayden99]

Couldn't agree more! And for Gill to say it wasn't a system error, it was a human error is bullshit. The system is there to remove the human error and it failed

[@yacobshelelshaddai4543]

@@Gazman67exactly!! Because they don’t review behinds because they want to make the game faster and higher scoring. Idiots!!

[@imalwaysright]

⁠@@bayden99Gil’s presser was poor. The (current) system is flawed, so it was both system and human error

[@bloodyhellism]

I'd be demanding replaying the 70 seconds. Blind freddy could tell that was a goal. Hate the crows with a passion but cant have that

[@joshuamatthews3486]

Throughout most games there are countless potential free kicks missed, if a player had prior opportunity to dispose, was it high or did the player duck, how far players run with the ball without bouncing, in the back decisions and all the incidents that happen off the ball, we can’t go to a system that every contest is being reviewed, or a 3 hour game will turn into a 6 hour game

[@anthonyforbes9657]

They have to consider a cricket style number of decision reviews allowed per game .

[@WarsawBlues]

Sidebar: That was a great video package.

[@jonathoncalabrese2035]

I thought the Carlton v melb deck was bad.. this is appalling

[@tylernich0848]

Gerard Whately has my heart

[@julianlawson1608]

The NHL's system is the best is sport, if the refs can't make a call it goes to the match centre in Toronto where they have better technology to make the right call. Sometimes this takes upwards of 5 mins but you know the right call is going to be made

[@JohnHenrySMH]

I still haven't heard a convincing argument as to why they can't reverse the decision and award the win to Adelaide. Both teams would then still have a chance at making the finals. In fact we'd end up with a crazy final round, with Adelaide, Sydney, Geelong, Bulldogs, GWS, Richmond and Essendon all battling for the final two spots in the 8. I would have thought the AFL would love that scenario.

[@bookgrub]

The convincing argument is that it wasn't after the siren. Correctly called a goal, Adelaide would have been in front with just over a minute to play. Overturning the decision would have denied Sydney that time to try to score a goal in response. You can't undo unfairness to one side by creating unfairness for another.

[@paulmatters2641]

The mistake was made with 1 minute and twenty seconds to go. Its called being rational.

[@JohnHenrySMH]

@@bookgrub Yeah but Adelaide have already been denied a certain goal. If Sydney is denied a potential goal, then that's much fairer. Don't forget, Adelaide were also denied the chance to score another goal from stoppage, and they were smashing Sydney in that area by that stage of the game. Instead the behind gave Sydney possession of the ball and an easy run up the wing, putting them in a much better position than a center bounce would have. They scored 1 point for the whole quarter, I don't think they were going to buck that trend and nail a goal, especially if Adelaide flooded back which of course they would do.

[@JohnHenrySMH]

@@paulmatters2641 Being rational was thrown out the window the moment the umpire made the wrong call and didn't review it. So we should look for the least bad outcome. As for that 1 minute and twenty (it was actually 1:11), what makes you think Sydney would have scored a goal when they could only manage a single point for the whole quarter? Don't forget, Sydney chose to play on quickly to take advantage of all the crows players being on one side of the ground, so they got more advantage from the decision than just the missed goal.

[@imalwaysright]

Because the rules of the game are clear - outcomes are final, with rare exception (like siren drama). That’s why no court challenge would work

[@JonV441]

Why not make the Goal posts Light up in a neon colour whenever the ball hits it. But should a player hit the post than have the review team look at it

[@grahamreid7017]

Quite simply should have been checked. I don't think it matters who you support you have to call this an absolute disgrace. The AFL HAS TO compensate the Crows for this and compensate very heavily.

[@hawkey92]

Exactly the same thing happened the next day, Hawks vs Melbourne. In the second quarter with 2mins to go, Dylan Moore kicks what looks like a goal, the goal umpire doesn't review and play just carries on...

[@DiceMan72]

Yes..thank you....nothing has been said about that one. Only 1 replay shown and daisy pearce stats "oh there seems to be a deflation"....oh really show it again.

[@tommywm24]

Big difference is Crows lost a spot in the finals.

[@tomralph1419]

@@tommywm24no they didn’t, their spot wasn’t guaranteed u muppet, now go cry

[@derivious2012]

cricket, has high def, ultra high frame rate replays where you can see a fleas arse on the ball. in afl its a shaky cam with Vaseline over the lens.

[@Luke-po2qc]

The Afl can't afford to have the Swans miss the finals.

[@VADER4GAMING]

Swans make finals every year

[@jessehaberle9094]

Too bad don’t cheat to get the result you want. Should’ve overturned it the minute they admitted it was a mistake.

[@AJHornet1]

Don’t put down to malice what can be easily explained by incompetence.

[@tb7667]

Yes, because the afl often alters the scores of games because of umpiring mistakes . They should what they usually do when an umpire makes a mistake, add a goal to one of the teams. Otherwise they are corrupt. 🤡

[@cmadelaide56]

Yep, the AFL asked North to mess up their interchange, and then said to the goal umpire that if it goes close to automatically call it a point… (far easier to blame a conspiracy than actually think about it).

[@alexerwin3262]

Bro using the music from Dunkirk for an AFL montage lol

[@bennygarvey]

We have a league that has a poor score review system. We have a league that has unfair draws towards certain clubs. We have a league that make a team play home game 80kms away from home. We have a league we're home games are not really home games at times. We have a league that favours a certain clubs supporters . It's cooked. The whole thing.

[@Samanater456]

Corruption of the highest level. Be interesting to see who the goal up supports

[@cmadelaide56]

It’s not corruption, it’s just blinkered inaction. The only thing keeping it there is that it screws over every team - but this is bigger than any other so they surely can’t sit on their hands any longer.

[@normally9210]

Many of the boundary throw ins favoured sydney , particularly western side not hard to see

[@maxshiraz3447]

For those of us that remember having to play the Crows at Football Park in the 90's, it's ironic that they are now complaining about umpiring.

[@stevecini2964]

GET RID of Hitting The Post Rule It s 2023 They Talk About Getting Rid Of Centre Bounces WAKE UP AFL Adelaide Should Protest

[@mesbahhawli3406]

Give the crows the 4 points and move on. An apology is not enough.

[@bacillus5]

If it was richmond it would be glossed over as a point nothing to see here

[@rhysh2639]

The best thing to do would be to remove the four points from Sydney and replay the match on the weekend before the finals.....but we know the AFL won't do that.

[@spaceballs2462]

Great idea. Or golden point so the teams can rest up still

[@rhysh2639]

@@spaceballs2462 Also, unless there is BLATANT evidence that the ball hit the post (e.g. deviation of trajectory) or was touched (e.g. visible movement of fingers or deviation of trajectory), it should always be called a goal. Anything inconclusive should be a GOAL, this would stop anything like this from happening.

[@chasindigo]

The arc should always make the decision, no soft call.

[@alexk7467]

I agree, no matter how obvious the score is, goal, behind, touched, no score etc every score in every game should be reviewed and the arc overrule the goal umpire if it is incorrect. As a crows supporter I was so angry that this wasn't overturned, so are we at the point where we should just get rid of the goal umpires and let the arc confirm every score in every game for an entire season?

[@bkozican]

AFL created this mess, Changed the rules around kick in's (dont have to wait for the white flag from both umps). An absolute mess and the AFL will give some under the table deal to keep Adelaide quiet

[@darrenkoch1718]

Yup! 100%. We can’t allow 20seconds of down time while umpires confer or a ball is run back to the centre.

[@soppingclam]

Heck, fibre optic cameras in the posts from 30 years ago can see 1000x better. Hot spot. Lasers. Million ways that can automatically tell if the ball hits the post or not. Mean's don't have to review hardly ever if use any tech in the last 50 years

[@ytyndale3643]

AFL stuffed up and now the 2023 season doesn't even matter.

[@spaceballs2462]

It brushed the post..

[@adrianoliveri2979]

If it's about kick ims and defense set to stop quick kick in.make players stop and not move until kick in comes to give no advantage to kick in defending team

[@Peptendo94]

I wish you guys put the same effort and money into getting good hosts as you do for your movie trailer intros into each segment

[@halsnemesis2185]

thanks a pretty handy comment (see if you can figure that out)

[@leefy4829]

I wonder who the goal umpire had his money on? Has anyone asked the question of him yet?

[@michaeltucker35]

NOT HAPPY JAN!

[@MrWhitmen1981]

It’s a circus 🤡

[@StKildaEditz1966]

If only Robbo was on there

[@mharro88]

I thought every goal was reviewed?

[@jamesjackson8652]

It is a relatively simple fix... No soft calls. They are all considered goals unless proven otherwise.

[@rhysh2639]

Exactly, e.g. deviation of trajectory or visible movement of fingers if touched, if it cannot be proven, it's a GOAL.

[@jackduncan7214]

Sirengate, they overturned the descison, why arent they doing it now? The precident was set then, whats changed now? The ceo has come out and said its a goal, so it should have been a goal. Crows need to fight this so much more! Afl needs to pay crows a massive fine and more than justvan apology. As a pies fan that was at the game, its an absolute joke!

[@athlonen]

While I agree about Sirengate, the conditions were different. Sirengate was about play continuing after the final siren sounded and shots for goal after that final siren sounded. For this match, there was still over a minute to play, and there would have been a different setup and positioning with that much time left. You’re looking at a kick in from a point versus a center bounce clearance, 6-6-6, and then getting numbers back to defend. The time left makes all the difference.

[@soppingclam]

3rd Umpire should have stepped in right away. Even though none of the 4 umps on the field even came forward. Why do most of the replays use wrong angles and look like old well used 80s VHS tapes

[@CJArnold-hq3ey]

The most disgusting thing I've seen in football since the Filth Matthews did to Bruns a blight on our National Game worse still the eyes on the world on Australia at the time as the Women's World cup was on same Night ,shame shame shame

[@jimmyb425]

Hotspot technology similar to cricket review system is the obvious answer.

[@DANCEDWAT]

How can someone in glasses do that role? on a misty night... legal action.

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

They suspend the goal umpires, what about the three central umpires, or do they have vision problems, so get off?

[@grantknott]

So if the Gil and the rest of the AFL are truly sorry about this, why don’t they implement something NOW to make sure this injustice does not happen again. I’m willing to bet that they implement nothing of worth before finals or before next week. Nothing. So are they truly sorry and are they willing to do something? No they’re not. It’s all shallow public talk. The question remains…Why can’t they do something this year? What is stopping them? Incompetence, laziness? Yeah, probably

[@user-pn8qq5fs2j]

The "Nineteenth" man.

[@matthewpowell9403]

Just go back to players can't kick in if a point until umpire has signalled with his flags to other goal umpire. That gives time to review ..

[@suede16]

Haha they really can't mention the NRL can they

[@llobj001]

#Award1stRoundDraftPicks - AFL make this right. Award compensation first round picks to Adelaide for multiple stuffups and all the other hardships you have forced this club to endure since it's existence. Accountability, great. Weldone AFL. Where is the compensation?

[@kazwilson425]

🤣🤣

[@Thedestroyer2024]

The umpire is blind that did not hit the post