Union / non union debate

[@1982boltman]

UA local 296! I worked non union for most of my life and I organized in 7 years ago. I have seen both sides and I can honestly say it was the best decision I have ever made. Much respect to you guys to each his own we are all workers trying to make a living.

[@JacobSchofield]

Thomas Book true that great points

[@alexsegovia1116]

Jacob think your right on point. I retired at age 46. I never was in the union, however I have respect for those guys. The one thing I always remembered​ was no can take better care of you then you. I took this thought all through my working career and retired early. Through the grace of God my family and I are doing well and I'm spending time with my grandkids. Treat everyone like you want to be treated yourself you will find that the dollar will chase you and you won't have to chase the dollar. Union, non union everyone deserves respect, dignity, fairness to make their own choices for themselves and their families. Happy Easter and God bless!

[@JacobSchofield]

alex segovia thank you sir for the great comment

[@JacobSchofield]

I love this comment cause it 100% true. everyone is equal and everyone is just trying to better themselves. Congardulations on getting to live the good life because you worked and deserve it. Be Blessed.

[@U.S.SlaveOfficial]

I did welding school some. was full of druggies and drunks all with huge egos. got into fight when pillhead drunkard came at me for not giving up my seat and fool instructor wanted us to shake and move on. ain't gonna have my head in some work while some scumbag that already jumped me gets to hang around to jump me again. maybe it's just midwest thing, I've stayed many places from Tennessee to California, been south for work some. seems from at least Ohio & Illinois to texas and everywhere in between there's more assholes per capita. was in Colorado for 2 years while back and maybe came across 7 or 8 asswholes total, missouri your doing good if you come across only that many on commute into job cutting you off and tailgating, then ya get to work and only got less than that if not that many employees there and ya don't deal with the public.

[@Rentonarc]

Keep up the great work Jacob !! I'm a union welder up in Alberta . Local 488 . You make your coin and keep being positive bro . Your a young guy and have a good outlook in life and in our industry !! I have the same outlook . Make my money invest and run . I see so many guys in there late 60s early 70s still welding . I just can't see myself in that position at that age . And on a positive note . This is my best start to any year . Got to love it bro . Good luck in the future and respect !!

[@JacobSchofield]

rentonarc your a stud man I hope to one day get to meet you. Specially in Alberta buddy I need to get my stuff together and come see that part of the world. Much respect you. Stay in touch one day I'll get up there.

[@Rentonarc]

Sounds great bro !!

[@jordandaoust8614]

Texas rig welder right here,19 years old no schooling, w/ helper, travel all over....keep on weldin!

[@JacobSchofield]

Jordan Daoust you too brother stay safe

[@JacobSchofield]

Jordan i love hearing it man 19 years old and just plain tearing it up nice work.

[@stretch273]

Jordan Daoust how did you get on the rig I was interested in it

[@dustinpietz972]

I'm a union pipe fitter / welder. Local 211 Houston Tx. It's a 5 year apprenticeship with 8000 on the job training hours to break out as a jorneyman. Due to this I can fabricate, weld carbon,stainless, all the alloys you name it as well as instrumentation, rigging etc. I have no hate for non union, and the pay is close on both sides. I'm not planning to be on my tools for ever either, but a pension is very important to me and my my faimly.

[@JacobSchofield]

Dustin Pietz great great points Dustin hope anybody thinking about union reads this thanks man

[@jaythrash8804]

5 years for pipefitting? That sounds like a long time!

[@heribertoortiz7484]

Dustin Pietz where can I apply

[@johnnyorsojr.4206]

I'm a welder in the dredging Industry. When I was non union i made 8 dollars an hour less than when i became union. Same company same job description but the only difference was non union wages in the Gulf, union wages in the Atlantic Ocean

[@luisbotello4868]

Do you mind telling us how much pay per hr is?

[@HELacey]

local 421 apprentice here and I'm all for both sides of the fence. Good message, brother.

[@JacobSchofield]

Hayden thank you sir

[@LMG6989]

Fellow pipe welder (non-union) here and have worked with UA and non-Union welders/fitters and have learned from both and taught both. We need to work together more and help each other out to better the trade as a whole. 1. The Union is great for young people that need a career direction like the military. Utilize it to your advantage to better yourself for the long term and future goals. 2. Like Jacob said welding is based on the individual. I used my skills as a welder and went from heavy fabrication/structural shop to Oil & Gas pipe fitting/welding on an offshore rig. Now I work for a R&D laboratory designing, machining, and welding parts. 3. Use the trade/skill to advance yourself and never stop learning. Be confident in your abilities and don’t be scared to try something new and adapt.

[@williamholland9863]

I'm from the Union side. You make a lot of valid points. We tend to be arrogant and I think it turns a lot of good hands off.

[@mattharper588]

A good welder can join every thing except the crack of dawn or a broken heart retired union boilermaker

[@JacobSchofield]

Love the boiler makers you guys are some tough suckers

[@garygoudeau8346]

ONE THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER. WITHOUT THE HOSTORICAL INFLUENCE OF THE UNIONS, WAGES WOULD BE 1/2 OF WHAT THEY ARE NOW. AND WHEN THE UNIONS ARE GONE YOU ARE AT THE MERCY OF THE MAN.

[@JacobSchofield]

they really really did help take care of the working man.

[@garygoudeau8346]

A lot of history over the years. Both good and bad. May God bless you always Mr Schofeild.

[@gunchief0811]

gary goudeau yep... America is like the birthplace of unions who fight for the wage earners rights. otherwise it's the same as like the NBA or pro sports. unions are sorta like our sports agent's.. they negotiate for our raises and benefits.. etc... without that we would be all starving and broke while only a few would be getting Rich...

[@Dave_Menz_p4p_number_1]

Hold up did you just say you make 75 to 100 n hour without overtime? Holy shit where you getting your job leads?

[@mendoblendo321]

Dude this is great advice. I've been looking going to union for the training. The community College I weld at dosent go much in depth. I jusy want to weld will gladly be a welders helper if needed

[@gas5419]

Pride in your craftsmanship doesn't separate union/non union. Union sets the bar. This is a good video coming from as member of a union.

[@JacobSchofield]

thank you sir. I have lots of friends in the union and lots that are not all great people all take huge pride in what they do.

[@dondillon9581]

How long does it take a welder helper to break out as welder?

[@Grateful0nee]

I 'm grateful for the training facility at the Union Hall because I really practiced and took advantage of Welding it and the Welding Instructor/Inspector. Also being able to take test and retest. You are what you put in. Crazy how the Union Started and Fought for our rights. Thanks Local 387

[@imcallingbs1883]

My dad was a pipeliner. He was in the Trans Alaskan pipeline from 1974 1979. Talk about pride!!! That was his favorite job he ever done.

[@marcuskoenig7925]

How can I get started as a non union helper?

[@garrettsims7202]

How does being a contract welder work? I've been told that joining the union is the way to go because you can leave and go home whenever you want. I wasn't sure about that so. Any help would be appreciated.

[@Hardstyler981]

Have your own truck n rig pass a test yrs of experience

[@keithwolfington7013]

I got accepted into a veterans in piping apprenticeship program run by a UA Union. Can't wait to get into welding.

[@JacobSchofield]

man get after Keith

[@TAPTAPSAILOR]

How is that working for you? I start at Fort Lewis on May 1st I'm doing HVACR tho

[@robertlewis1706]

Ramon tapia how's the HVAC class going, I start in September at JBLM. I got my interview Sept 1st, whats the interview like?

[@TAPTAPSAILOR]

robert lewis its going good man. I'm doing it at JBLM. the interview was not bad make sure you dress for a job interview you know.

[@robertlewis1706]

Ramon tapia thanks, I can't wait to start.

[@pimphandgamester]

I remember when we had to repair a duct run on a job where everyone else was union. They locked the gate on us when we left for lunch. So we took apart the fence and got in. They were assholes to us the whole time we were there.

[@andrewmccallum9943]

Local 290 Portland, OR plumber. I’ve been on both sides, and like you said. There’s garbage to awesome plumbers on both sides. Im Much happier in the union but don’t hold it against anyone who wants to be non-union. There’s plenty of +/- on both sides, there just different issues. Imo, people just need to chill out. We all go to work to make a living. Great video and couldn’t agree more.

[@RamZyWorks]

I'm applying to local 290 this week, I'd love to talk to you if you have time!

[@waynesatter1590]

I'm not a welder I installed flooring, do not know anything about unions. My comment is I'm glad to see two young men that at 52 years old,I'm impressed with both these young guys. We don't see young adults with common cents often. To make it short I like you guys wish I could by you a beer

[@alexandrahall3774]

Are there any girls? I am a girl welder, currently in a trade school for welding right now. I’m still in high school, I’m a junior. My welding instructor said that I will be able to start welding in the workforce my senior year

[@JacobSchofield]

Oh yeah for sure. Getting more and more common

[@bettabegoodjr2104]

Local 687 Detroit baby!!! Let's get it. Union all day in my opinion. I worked Non-union for 10yrs and that stable money is great. Winters sux in Michigan

[@cdtman15]

Question if you’re still responding to this video I know it’s been a long time. But how do you get into contract welding, I’m in pipe welding right now at my technical school. Like do you have to get your own rig or do you just travel and work for different companies?

[@LilFish0]

Bro I just stared my job and my shop is a local ironworkers union shop. Then all my friends bash me for having a union job. I don’t care either or, the shops just close to my house and they work with my school schedule

[@scotstouffer305]

Hey I'm always behind all the comments cause I'm not too much on social media. I'm an AZ copper mine employee. Unions have always been a hot topic here cause they aren't supported widely or popular with companies (right to work state). I work as a a mechanic/welder. Probably cause I'm a T-Town resident at a Green Valley copper mine. Lemme ask ya this: as a "mechanic" I'm trained to do all kinds of stuff: fan balance, pump rebuild, blah blah. But one of the first things they judged was my welding. Ok...finally: as a union person, is it better to specialize, or is it better to be "Jack-of-all,master-of-none" as I seem to experience more here? Side note: ya"lol make great videos. I am a serious study of testing stuff. Bless you for making this shit public knowledge. This country needs more tradesmen coming up than anything!

[@rondalatimer7663]

Scot Stouffer m

[@joshwhite1268]

Think you could do a short video about writing contracts?

[@JacobSchofield]

Yeah thats a great idea for sure.

[@ronmower3694]

Im 798 welder.but human first.love all my brother s

[@JacobSchofield]

exactly we are human just trying to make it happen.

[@8joejames8]

Are you in northeast Pennsylvania in this video? Dickens barbecue pit is right around the corner from me and didn't know of them being a chain.

[@JacobSchofield]

No sir we are in colorado. its a pretty big food chain I think we have them all over the place

[@weisssunday2545]

Safety is the best thing besides a living wage the Union brings to construction sites, and health care.

[@JakeAshcraft]

Do you know anything about programs for vets? And/or tool/supply's in training?

[@coreyagregaard2106]

Unions have programs for vets

[@kayleeh8140]

5 day work week concept was started by unions......

[@andrewbass3245]

I’ve inspected for Union and non union contractors equally and never once saw a five day work week unless it was a holiday or we rained out....

[@mr.matthews67]

So the difference is how you get paid?

[@jwafterours]

jake; how old are you? you're wise beyond your years. i'm a welder in the operating engineers local 15 and about to retire after 46 year's in the game. union or non union just be the best you can be cause we're all trying to feed our families. you got the skill and you're going far!

[@welditup9559]

How did you become an independent contractor?

[@JacobSchofield]

Its how ever the company wants to hire welders . Its called straight check (contractor) or a split check (employee)

[@trevorfredricks2117]

I honestly respect what you say and the manner in which you put it. It was well thought out and spoken in my opinion. But I'd have to say that being in a Local is probably the best thing. 2nd Year Apprentice UA Local 247

[@JacobSchofield]

Trevor Fredricks thank you sir. It definitely is an option for some people.

[@jrrevolt688]

keep up the good work guys. love the vids.

[@JacobSchofield]

john and each whats you said is gospel. there is pros and cons to both sides. i really hope everyone takes note of what you said. thanks for commenting on this happy easter you guys.

[@nir766]

How much a pupe line welder is getting paid in your country ?

[@jonathannovoa85]

nir766 $70 hr

[@terrymitchell341]

Dam Jake well said we all here to feed your family and dog by the way shirts fit good

[@richardascroggins2625]

Well said on both aspects

[@tabornokkorkolon5256]

Good day brother do you know some body or company that need a helper... thanks brother in advance

[@shakedown2770]

coming from a 10 year boilermaker here...union is the only way to go if you want a pension and annunity and benefits and all the other perks ...

[@lukepodmore7810]

Great straight talking debate 👍🏻

[@JacobSchofield]

Thanks Luke.

[@tylermcguyrt5207]

I just applied for Local 798 as a welder helper, I went to school for welding and i wanted to get into the Pipeline i figured this was the best step to take personally.

[@JacobSchofield]

Great chose man a lot of really really good welders are from 798. Learn all you can brother from those guys and you will have a great start.

[@tylermcguyrt5207]

Jacob Schofield It says on the application its just a pre qualification and its not a guarantee for a job but ill keep applying until i get a job even though everyone around me tells me not to because they think pipelines wont be around in the next couple years and what not but thats what got me into welding back in high school, seeing all the pipeliners in my town i was like damn i want to do that and i graduated last year seems like right at the tail end of all of it but i still want it badly to get into it. The rover pipeline is being ran about 3 miles away from my house.

[@aaronanderson7619]

tyler mcguyrt a man's gotta make his own way. Union or non, if you bring good work, strong motivation, and just flat out fing try hard, you will succeed. Cream rises to the top, regardless of what pot your cooking in.

[@wailnshred]

Tyler, if that's what you want to do then do it. Don't worry about people who say what work will be in the future, unless they are involved in the industry they don't know.

[@mendoblendo321]

Local 38s in here?

[@melvinmariott8609]

Yeah im a contract welder doing what I love to do for a living. Building the United States one weld at a time.

[@getlowbullieseric]

I’ve never worked nonunion, but from what I heard from all the people that have transferred from that side they hated it. You make so much money and are not required to buy your own tools. You don’t have to find your own work. You get 401k and 401a and health benefits. You get a union hall with everything you need for free! I love Union so much! I suggest you look in to Jacob. Why not have a retirement? Plus make soooo much money right now as well!!! Welded make 5k a week take home on the regular if you work a normal 60

[@stretch273]

Eric Dominguez how much you make an hour?

[@bike_life4528]

5k a week that's a solid income no doubt

[@stretch273]

Eric Dominguez what union you at? What city you in?

[@mattharper588]

Shorty sorry to hear that I'm a white retired union boilermaker and I have had Black and Native American welding partners and they were excellent hands racism sucks I hope you achieve your goals some day

[@yahko________1412]

@Shorty Keep your head up keep moving forward without resistance you never know what you can do

[@Ryan-wb6ne]

Unless you do pipeline with your own rig, I don’t understand why you’d want to be non union. The pay is significantly more, you get full benefits that are free including an actual pension and annuity, don’t have to seek your own work, if your fired without cause you can go to arbitration and have a third party get your job back without having to deal with people inside the company. I honestly don’t understand why people wouldn’t want to be union. Cause of your 60$ a month dues. I don’t hate on anyone that isn’t union but I just don’t understand why this is a debate. I also understand sometimes it’s hard getting into the top unions out there(or apprenticeships) because lots of people apply. But why would you want less money per hour and have to pay for all your benefits out of pocket?

[@mikecapone6698]

We’re I live at it’s never a matter on which side is better , it’s obvious the union side is much better it’s only an issue if you can get into the union or not Bc everyone is trying to get into the union . Non union theirnis no future but it’s hard to get into

[@cellthegreenwick5715]

It all comes down to money and benefits that’s it. Oh and training. But the reality is that Unions are dying out because a lot of people are becoming independent and a lot of small shops don’t want to invest in the union because it’s expensive

[@johnflores5097]

How much do you make a year

[@JacobSchofield]

it will all depend on how hooked up I stay. I can garrenty 150+ but this year will be more.

[@johnflores5097]

Thanks for the feed back👍did you start off as a helper or a welder

[@gunchief0811]

speak on it son! heck yeah... bwere all the same titles don't mean squat... we're welders and we're humans... that's enough for me... happy Easter. Jesus has risen...

[@fitter5426]

Well said my brother. I’m a union guy through and through. I’m a union sprinkler fitter and up here in Pittsburgh where I’m from the non union sucks. They are absolutely horrible. They install it and we fix it. But it all boils down to a pride factor. If you want to be a butcher and don’t take pride in your work that’s what your going to get labeled as. There’s bad union sprinkler fitter and really good ones. I sure there’s good non union sprinkler fitters out there as well. I will say they don’t get no where near the money we get. I will say our retirement is 10 times better than there’s. I don’t know much about the union and union pipeliners so I really don’t have an opinion on that. But I’m sure it’s the same. There’s good and bad union and non union welders.

[@harvestbrothfromthesloth4657]

Why do all union vs non-union videos react to the online drama and never actually explain anything? "I don't care what you do we are all just people" no shit.

[@JacobSchofield]

Amen!!

[@firstgendres]

I'm starting to get the bigger picture man thanks. Chunk of money. And reproduce.! U guys r awesome

[@thatguy-ml4mz]

I just have a problem when u start union and go RAT. If you start union stay with it!

[@FlyPiper]

I've worked both sides. Ive met some amazing welders non union and union. But the only thing that kept me in the union is the double time and triple time. But I could care less what someone is as far as union or non union. I agree with what this cat said,just figure out what's best for you and provide for yourself and your family. There is a boat load of money to be made either said. In the union you will have a lot of big time companies throw the money at you if you want it and are a good hand. Same for non union tho also. Good luck!! From KY.

[@JacobSchofield]

Fly piper thank you for the comment. it is the same way I feel. I don't care if your union or not we are all out here for the sam reason. make money take care of ourselves and families and be a productive individual. that's it. Great comment.

[@n8baca32]

You can't get better training or better schooling then the United Association. I pay dues, however I know I can obtain any cert, whether it's a UA 1 or a med gas cert at my local union hall..like you said i have Pensions, 401k, healthcare. Unions hold a higher standard when it comes to giving out certs.You have UA certs and you have state certs.. anyways, you have your points, aggree to disagree. I'd chase that pipe liner money however I enjoy seeing my kids everyday and coaching wrestling. Anyways you are right, it's more of a mentality then anything.. make that money Jacob. Good luck with your businesses, hope everything works out

[@masonsummers841]

20$ is 20$ 😏 Keep up the great vidjas!!!

[@JacobSchofield]

Amen.

[@bradygregory3554]

If you got a boss, you need a union. IBEW LU 558

[@mikecapone6698]

Ibew pension annuity, healthcare . Is amasing I have worked non union at 20 per hour with no benifits and no retirement. Now I’m in the ibew my total pacage is 75 ph Yes we both are feeding our family’s and deserve respect but you cannot compare the two sides pay or benefits . Non union just didn’t compare that is a fact I lived it . At least in the north east area

[@Neauxluh]

there is no debate. union is the way to go if you want a career and to help your field move forward and legislate rights for you and protect you from shady contractor business practices. rats ride our coat tails and dont pay dues on any of the legislation we have put into effect for EVERYONE or the high wages rats earn now. so you can choose to eat our crums or you can step up and see the bigger picture.

[@JacobSchofield]

G Loyd stoked for you man. Sounds like your doing great in the union. Keep up the work mr loyd.

[@jrrevolt688]

G Loyd , first off I'd like to state I'm a union steam fitter so maybe you'll listen up. When you use the word "rat" it is not referring to an employee, it's referring to a non union contractor. So get it right. Yes the union does set the bar for wages, BUT if your a good non union guy that awesome at his trade, I'm guessing here, but I'm sure you can set your wage. Also we pay dues not only for our unions to help legislator, it also pays for apprentices schooling, represention/protection, and for our union halls to find us work. Yes like these good ole boys said we do have a retirement. I have a pension and a separate 401k. All in all union or non union there is pros and cons. Everyone needs to eat and feed their family's.

[@Neauxluh]

John and Rach Revolt I don't give a fuck who you are.

[@aaronanderson7619]

As a non union man whose father was, we all have kids to feed. If you find yourself to be better than another man, simply do to Union affiliation, you are jaded. Have bennys,401k , all the above. I don't pay to keep the halls lights on. Talk to the fellas riding the books about how great it is. Oh ya, they just aren't good enough to get kept. Dad said if you are kept with a shop the union don't do much for ya. If you're the type who isn't good enough to be kept by a company, then the union is great.

[@aaronanderson7619]

G Loyd the bigger picture is that prevailing wage ( much respect to those who fight for that money... your reps tho because it isn't you) is paid to non union, but without all the deducts. Although the same comes out of ours as yours for pension. And money's are pulled out for apprenticeship of the others coming up in the trade. . And the Ben package isn't pulled out. So it isn't like we're paid half of what you are. Fucking hardly. Then again I'm an electrician, so chances are I make more anyway. Happy scab signing off

[@andrewhawk8732]

Great video, thanks!

[@JacobSchofield]

Thank you Andrew

[@66cuda]

I'm union ibew, traffic control, Edison wanted all contractors to be local 47, I saw a pay bump from $11 to $17.59 with better benefits, I've met non union linemen, they are not liked in the industry

[@aaronanderson7619]

d. allen spencer some people go to work to make money. Some for friends. At 17 an hour I'd be looking for better pay, not being liked and accepted.

[@gottoweld5201]

Its public record what the union pay scales are im union and i enjoy your vids keep doing your thing

[@JacobSchofield]

Thank you sir!! I have tons of union buddies and its great to talk to guys that are level headed. thanks again.

[@vivianbailey22]

My father is union as a pipe fitter/welder. For 25+

[@blazen1269]

Is he always on the move? There always on the road aren't they?

[@mikemiller6628]

Very well said.

[@elicst300]

how much yall make

[@donnaclaborn8844]

10X growth!

[@garygoudeau8346]

The main thing is to prepare for your health and retirement needs when you grow old. The union has made provisions for this. If your non-union you need to take care of yourself when you get old so the welfare system doesn't have to.

[@JacobSchofield]

gary goudeau amen to that!! If a guy makes this much money and can't look to the future. He was uneducated or undisciplined with his money. Great comment. Thank you

[@garygoudeau8346]

Forgot to mention that your videos are great

[@jguccijacgucci9160]

a good welder can weld everything uphill downhill Chrome stainless all the metals have a good day

[@JacobSchofield]

I completely agree be versatile and you will be in high demand!!

[@sleepwalker29]

My I-CAR welding teacher said you're not a welder till you master all types of welds. Brazon, Arc, MIG/TIG. But i welded on 24 gauge steel for I-CAR automotive test. Also arc welding is for amatures. It is easy to weld quarter inch steel pipes, verses 24 gauge.

[@joeking8632]

Without my union & my brothers, you would be working for peanuts Hand!

[@markflierl1624]

You might be getting paid well now. But wait until inflation kicks in.

[@bigshortstack2929]

Joe King. Why should I thank your union and your union brothers for trucks and cars with price tags that are at least TWICE what they are actually worth? Same thing for refrigerators; washers and dryers; and everything else made in the USA??? You and you union brothers are the reasons manufacturing jobs went to Mexico and China. Everyone wants to blame the "CORPORATIONS". Well, just who ARE the corporations? They are NOT 12 people sitting around a conference table.....they are the WORKERS. Yep, you and your union brothers who repeatedly struck for higher and higher wages and bigger and bigger benefits packages tied to bigger and bigger retirement funds until those people at the conference table decided they weren't going to be blackmailed any longer because they reached the maximum prices they could get the average folks to pay for their products. So;, HELLO China; HELLO Mexico. The bottom line is, this country lost millions of jobs to overseas manufacturers BECAUSE of the ridiculous demands made by you and your union brothers. Thanks for NOTHING Mr. King.

[@n8baca32]

@Shortstack I'd much rather have a skilled American union worker make my GMC then have a 6 year old Chinese/Mexican ect kid building it.. Skilled labor ain't cheap and cheap labor ain't really skilled

[@bigshortstack2929]

N8 Baca..when pickup trucks started costing as much or MORE than a house......all bets were off. I hate that so many jobs went overseas, but DAMN, there is a breaking point.

[@jacobbrowy4414]

Union I made 61.56 an hr non union I made 24 at my highest I want to get into contract welder so bad but don’t know where to start honestly and I google the shit out of it

[@mikecapone6698]

I had same experience I made 20 ph nonunion My union pacage is around 70 ph The non union sector does not come close in the north east not even close

[@christianholomay6718]

hey thanks guys im going to become a weilder i was on piine when i was like 18

[@JacobSchofield]

You can do it man no doubt about it just takes a lot work and meeting the right people.

[@bigshortstack2929]

Preach it, Jacob. You're 100% correct.

[@christianholomay6718]

i was on pipeline for a year then they caled me back i love working pipeline

[@JacobSchofield]

Pipelione is good stuff i love it also. always a race to the bottom.

[@felixthewintersoldierspink2347]

👏👏👏👏

[@jacksonms212]

5000 hrs. good luck, fill out those monthly reports no matter what... they will put your ass on the bench !!!

[@JacobSchofield]

say what? hahaha I dont know what your talking about, and aint nobody putting me on any bench lol.

[@bestintheindustry]

Unions are better ....

[@mannyborges5659]

Don’t think of what you make now look into your retirement Union is the best way I been on both sides compare none union retirement to union retirement that simple

[@JacobSchofield]

If you get it... with as crazy as everything is I really pray you guys get it. You have put your money into it and deserve it. But I just don’t see it happening.

[@jamiewatkinson1086]

Unions a bunch of bullshit . Non union prevailing wage plus full benefits

[@largerooster2059]

Better change your shows handle too.... Rat rig welder so ! Oh but hey it's just makin a livin. You don't know anything about being union !

[@JacobSchofield]

Large Rooster your probably right brother never been union, I have lots of friends that are but I think it’s however you want to make a living. Glad to hear your doing good. Keep chasing the money hopefully one day we meet up and I’ll take you to dinner.Be Blessed.

[@gabewhisen3446]

Dadgum he shaved off 20 years

[@CLIFF996644]

Union does not impress me. thanks man

[@mikecapone6698]

Non union wages don’t impress me at all low wages no retirement. Union wages impress me high wages annuity retirement vaca checks . At the end of the day union wages are higher and it leads to a better way of life

[@ajandhunter]

798 .....

[@Michshnly]

Both sides suck. Get your license and start your own business.

[@JacobSchofield]

That’s why I like contract.

[@mikecapone6698]

Non union cannot compare to the high wages and pensions we get .

[@JacobSchofield]

whatever you say. lol

[@mikecapone6698]

We all deserve respect both sides are working man just trying to make a living for a family I have respect for both sides but to say that non-union wages are close or compared to union wages is just laughable in New Jersey I work nonunion as an electrician I was making $20 an hour no pension no benefits recently I got into the IBEW union apprenticeship program soon I will be making 47$ Per hour +7 dollars an hour and vacation check seven dollars an hour in my annuity and a pension that is more than double what I was making as a non-union electrician the pay and benefits are night and day from nonunion to eat union in the Northeast if I continue to work nonunion I would be barely surviving living in poverty the union has been A life changer for me it has brought me to the middle class and a homeowner in the union I had guaranteed raises every year in nonunion I had to beg for a raise and was at the bosses mercy now in the union I work under a contract that the boss Hass to pay me certain amount of wages and benefits in the nonunion sector I was at the bosses mercy however he felt that day is how I was treated in the union I have protection I cannot be fired for no reason and I am treated fairly and nonunion I could be fired at any time . Both sides deserve respect like I said we are all working class people but you cannot compare union wages to non-union wages at least in the north east part of the country maybe it is different down south or up north I was making $20 an hour nonunion no to be making $47 an hour plus pension that’s more than double so no you cannot compare the two in regards to piscale and benefits union and nonunion pay rate is knight in day black and white At the end of the day We are just trying to make a living and provid for our family’s . Everyone deserves a good wage and a pension in my experience their is no future in non union

[@Ru3b3ntlp]

That’s very! It’s all about who takes pride! I was non union up until no one was getting hired in 2010. Now I’ve been in the union for 6 years it’s good on the health care part. But for a fact there is a lot of crappy union welders with no pride in their work in the place I work. Not saying anywhere else but where i work your right on the money about that.

[@JacobSchofield]

Defently people that take pride in both side. and defenelty those that do not.

[@JacobSchofield]

Defently people that take pride in both side. and defenelty those that do not.

[@jstrunck]

Yall rake on that cash before i someone else does.

[@JacobSchofield]

Im hoping your getting a bunch of it too.