Universal Audio Luna Basics Part 7 | Midi & Midi Workflow

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0:00 Intro
0:30 Midi Workflow in Luna
0:54 Create a Midi Instrument Track
2:06 Importing Midi
2:24 Performing Midi Tips
4:15 Midi Timeline Interface Basics
6:47 Quantizing
7:24 Midi Version & Comp
7:50 Shortcuts and Editing Midi
9:57 Editing Note Velocity
10:37 Other Parameters
12:17 Exploring Shape
14:01 Final Thoughts
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[@lamonttblackshire1638]

Best Luna Series on the Tube by far. Because Luna is new, the views are at a crawl, but as Luna grows, this series will be invaluable! Thank you!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Right on mate! Thanks so much. Been a struggle to keep up with the last few updates. A few really cool things have been implemented / some of which - not so video worthy. But I’m sure there is more I could dive into for additional parts. - I think I’m up to part 9 haha 😆

[@sankarchatterjee7631]

Thank you for this video. We need more videos on midi in Luna

[@TheSteveKinney]

midi at the moment is still incredibility simple and straight forward for Luna

[@jerrygillgren5324]

Thanks Steve. I am new to Luna and am from the analog world. I wish I saw this video before when I was trying to import MIDI tracks, I didnt know I needed an "instrument" and now know about Shape. Teaching this old analog guy is a challenge, but you are clearing the fog!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Ha! Hey now! Cheers mate, glad I can be helpful! -Steve

[@katrina_burgoyne]

Woo hoo. MIDI i needed this!

[@VanKorlaar]

Nicely done Steve

[@devidasa9637]

Steve ... thank you for making this series!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Thanks so much for the support 🙏🏻!!

[@pamelak.4794]

Great video!

[@orazionicoletti6638]

Thanks Steve.

[@rohanshahmusic]

Great Series! Thanks!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Thanks mate!

[@go4music]

Thank You Steve, really helpful video!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Absolutely Ove! Thanks for watching and stopping by. Cheers!

[@Mdi0305]

Thank you for your time and explanation. I work with cubase . But know Im trying to work with Luna. Even though Luna has A wonderful analog sound. It lack many future special in midi file. No expression no dinamic control , no expression map and many other things. I hope in the future it will change cause I understand it is new daw lack of experienc

[@mccisabell]

absolutely fantastic series! I agree with everyone else, you should have way more viewers, I will do my part to spread the word :) this is very helpful information!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Chris! Thanks mate! That’s so awesome! Plenty more to come as Luna evolves. Cheers mate!

[@bradspence702]

Thanks!

[@claykenzo8202]

Very well done ! Thank you very much

[@TheSteveKinney]

Thanks! Cheers!

[@RussReiterMusic]

I know that this is an older video, but as Luna just went to Windows, I needed to see what it can do before I jump in. This series has been very helpful - Thanks!!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers!! Yeah - crazy cool that they announced it last night. I need to get a windows computer and help you guys out! Most of these videos should still be applicable even with some of the updates they have done over the years.

[@RussReiterMusic]

@@TheSteveKinney And I already own a lot of their plug ins, as well as an Apollo Twin and one of their PCIe cards, so ya, there's a lot of potential for me here already. I've also been looking for a good PT alternative and this looks like a fairly pain-free transition for me.🙂 Thanks again!

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@RussReiterMusic 💯 Happy to do a 1:1 session if you ever have more questions and wanna dive into the weeds. Most of the keyboard shortcuts are based off pro tools. And generally, a lot of the workflow is basically pro tools, but contextual and simpler / easier on the eyes haha 😆 Cheers!

[@trackmasters65]

@@TheSteveKinney I just downloaded Luna as well, there's going to be lots of buzz around it with windows users. The MAIN thing I'm confused about is midi editing and exactly what all the features are. Could def use a part 2!

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@trackmasters65 sure! Yeah - midi editing is entirely done in the timeline. There is no step sequencer, and some functions still limited, like multi output VSTI. The track lane is your midi roll.

[@misterfalur]

Thank you very much for this very good explanation!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Trying to keep it straight forward. 😎👍🏻

[@esmoroglu]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻thanks, this is so practical.👋🏼

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers mate! That’s what I try to do with my channel is keep everything practical. Go over the details yeah, but too many channels try to keep things in a vacuum. I wanna make it like you said, practical. Thanks for the kind words and support, cheers!

[@KungFuLaurentides]

These tutorials should get way more likes!!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Haha thanks mate! Cheers!

[@LuizCarlosJesusdosSantos]

How to export MIDI to a track in rendered audio?! I don’t use Apollo

[@annapretasantos6037]

Thank you for the video.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers mate!

[@ronnyskaar3737]

Thanks for going through this. My Apollo will land on Luna very soon.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Woot. Good stuff!

[@pastorjoshblevins]

First, thank you for this thorough and practical series. What an incredible resource! Do you know of the possibility of using drum kit instruments such as the slate ssd5? In some DAWs, you can create separate tracks for each drum sample to mix them individually. Does Luna have a feature to do something similar, or can you only mix the instrument as a whole? Thanks!

[@TheSteveKinney]

What your are referring to is known as multi output vsti. This isn’t built into Luna just yet, the rumor is that it’s coming soon. No telling if it will be the next thing they release or 4 versions from now. But it’s one of the most requested features on forums. I’ve learned that I don’t really need it. I just duplicate channels

[@leolopes4692]

Hello, can I turn áudio in midi in this dawn? For exemple turn a snare audio track in mídi for using a Vst Drummer to sum the sounds

[@urbanman1516]

Does Luna have midi clip cloning? You know, make a change in the first clip of a track and the other clips will mirror those changes.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Ya know - I don’t think so.

[@urbanman1516]

@@TheSteveKinney Thanks Steve.

[@theofficialkrushb]

Great video. Is there a way to input quantize as you record, rather than after?

[@TheSteveKinney]

I don’t believe there is at the moment.

[@GuitarandCoffeeShow]

Hey Steve... How are you doing? Could you manage to use EZD routing to multi channel? Cheers

[@TheSteveKinney]

Hey brotha! Yeah I’ll look into it. It’s funky right now. The way I do it at the moment is just build the midi performance and then when I’m vomited today the sound I bounce each element of the ez kit to wav on its own. They don’t have multi output just yet. So still some work around there.

[@alanmclean2713]

Hi Steve, Excellent video regarding midi. I still use some old synths like JV-1080 and EMU Proteus 2000 so it's great to be able to instantiate them in LUNA. One issue I cannot figure out is the fact that the midi STATUS indicator never lights up no matter what I play. I can trigger the sounds in the Shape instruments and record them to a midi track but despite the record and arm input monitoring being activated the is no indication of midi input.Any idea why this might be? Regards Alan

[@TheSteveKinney]

hmmmmm.... I'm not sure I ever noticed any sort of status indicator either - outside of simply hearing and seeing the midi data recorded.. good point. Sounds like a feedback button in the top right is in order. Thanks mate!

[@TheOliveradams]

@SteveKinney Can I draw a line in the velocity (ex. a snare roll that comes up from 60 to 127 in one line) ??

[@TheSteveKinney]

Do you mean like “painting” across the velocity timeline?

[@chizzulwinduh1941]

Another great video Steve. Is there no numerical data on the velocity / volume? Either when changing volume on the note or in the automation lane. On most DAWs it's 0 - 127 and display the midi data of a note somewhere, there's nothing here! Also, no split note tool? It all seems a little too basic and not ready for proper midi editing yet.

[@TheSteveKinney]

It would still be the same 0-127 here too. However, from memory you're right - I don't believe that there is a visual number anywhere, but I could be wrong on that one. ..Additionally, there is a split note function, although I didn't mention it in the video, when you switch your "workflow" to midi - it's a tool that shows up in the list at the top, additionally there is a keyboard shortcut that I'm failing to remember at this hour as I type this... I wanna say it's Command+E.. don't quote me on that though. Cheers mate!

[@hakstudio8805]

Please tell me how to sidechain with luna~ I can't use wavefacktory's tracspacer

[@TheSteveKinney]

Hey there! It’s currently not possible to sidechain in the box just yet with Luna. If you have some external hardware that has sidechain input - you could do sidechaining though.

[@arnehin4625]

I can't hear audio when I select the MIDI note(s). How do you enable this?

[@TheSteveKinney]

It should play when you highlight the note.. is anything solod?

[@gatlinproduction]

Ok Question Connecting my Roland TD-50 V Drums is driving me crazy using Midi. Do you know how to connect V Drums to Luna? Because Roland Sound Model needs to be the main connection. But I discover that I do need to have my Apollo Twin Connect. And I do see my TD-50 on the lift side like you said, But I can’t get anything connected. Can you help me please?

[@TheSteveKinney]

Have you tried turning on the input on the channel?

[@AndrewLarson]

Hey Steve I live in Nashville as well. These videos are great but I have one question: How best would you get separate outputs from Addictive Drums 2 in LUNA? I've basically been recording stems as separate audio by soloing tracks but maybe you know a better way? Thanks for these vids they're really helpful.

[@TheSteveKinney]

What I do is build out the drum part, get the Midi instrument sound to where I’m happy with it, and then I make sure that there are no effects on the track and no Luna bus summing to effect the signal Then systematically bounce each source to wav and then re-import. Really cumbersome - wish that was fixed ASAP. I do it this way just because I’m weird. You could certainly do a virtual track and record - the way you say. I just always try to make sure there are no other effects in the path.

[@AndrewLarson]

@@TheSteveKinney Awesome thanks for the reply! No that's not weird basically what I end up doing. I was looking everywhere for another way cause it seems in other DAWs you can just select separate out pre fader and it'll link up but multiout doesn't seem to be available in LUNA. Thanks though!

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@AndrewLarson yeah - it’s on the outs of things for them to code up. LOL

[@zakaroonetwork777]

Blue Loop Selection is Always getting Dropped any time one Clicks to do anything. Is there a way to keep it on and in the same place where you want it to be?

[@TheSteveKinney]

The yellow loop is the actual loop.

[@zakaroonetwork777]

It may Be the Yellow Bar but it still Drops the Loop...

[@bvrbvs]

Thanks! Coming from Ableton it will be hard for me to use Luna for Midi, but i can definitely look at Luna for mixing stage with stems....once they add side chain support

[@TheSteveKinney]

Totally! I feel you on this. I think the midi workflow is creative for sure, and the sounds are great - but this is Abletons strength and main arena for sure. Cheers mate!

[@NaweedQadirdotcom]

Hi Steve, I newbie to Luna. Converted from Logic Pro. I am just surprised how as a platform, it handles the load of plugins and VSTs, which I was so disappointed with Logic. My main disappointment is that even after upgrading to Studio Max, I often had issues with VSTs crashing the processing core, even with a 256 buffer. Thanks to your amazing tutorials - I just created my first project in Luna. I was blown away by how Luna handled the same VST loads without any crashes. Your dedicated Luna tutorials are excellent and to the point. UAD should make you their official Luna ambassador for your fantastic work. Please continue sharing your insight on how to make various types of track/instrument sound amazing with minimum use of UAD plugins.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Thanks so much for the kind words! I’d be honored to work with UA like that officially for Luna. That would be really cool! That said, I’ll keep pushing out update videos, Luna will only keep getting better with time! Cheers mate!

[@mobilee1587]

Thank you Bro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤

[@leolopes4692]

Can I play a external instrument through midi?

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@leolopes4692 something I never ever once do - but yeah - pretty sure it has midi out.

[@i_am_thuglife]

Luna don’t have a step sequencer?

[@TheSteveKinney]

No. It’s not a clip based Daw like ableton or FL studio. It’s more like pro tools.

[@JohnLloydDavis]

You didn't explain how to maximise the piano roll view when you went to record the piano part.

[@m.i.stapes]

I was here

[@TheSteveKinney]

Ha ha

[@m.i.stapes]

@@TheSteveKinney I’m started with a focusrite and ableton live as my first setup but I’m planning to upgrade to a UAD interface and Luna hopefully next year. Was curious how they handled midi and it looks sweet man. I have the UF8 and saw your recent video on using it with Luna. It’s looking awesome 👏 thanks for the videos man. Nice work

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@m.i.stapes right on dude! Ya Luna is truly great. IMO it’s right up there with any other DAW.

[@Byron101_]

I really hate the nerveous flickering play cursor

[@TheSteveKinney]

Could be my screen recording software at the time.

[@dangala6915]

What’s a “bu’in”?? Are you trying to say “button”? Weird

[@TheSteveKinney]

Dan. 😅 some people have accents. Deal with it mate.

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[@katrina_burgoyne]

I love this new plugin Preset. Thanks Steve

[@Banoffeeee]

Wish their midi is as good as logic pro🥲 logic is a beast in midi workflow imo

[@TheSteveKinney]

I prefer the midi workflow in Luna personally. Logic was super powerful, but overly complex. I had to do a TON of searching on how to use it when I first got started LOL Lunas is simple, stripped back. The only thing that can be annoying at first is the auto sizing of the midi roll. But using the “e” button on your track to enlarge, is the perfect way of getting into the “midi” view of the piano roll. Essentially built in to the timeline, genius. Where as logic has a dedicated view - but with all the tools. Either way, it’s all about making cool sounds mate! Cheers dude!