Universal Camouflage Pattern honest review by US Army Vet

[@Taskandpurpose]

I heard if you stare directly into the Universal Camouflage Pattern long enough you'll get instantly promoted to 4 Star General.

[@keithtatum3437]

😂

[@soundingnu2357]

Oh

[@themailman5150]

You need to go to sniper school for that

[@lalruatdikavarte7943]

Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction more videos.

[@Taskandpurpose]

@@lalruatdikavarte7943 glad you liked the video that's much appreciated!

[@ihavetowait90daystochangem67]

I heard my dad loves wearing the Universal Camo Pattern, he’s been wearing it for 5 years when he bought milk at the store

[@Taskandpurpose]

this made me laugh thank you for that haha wish I'd thought of this line for the video haha

[@andyreed707]

Plot twist, he went out to buy multi cam and when he came back you just couldn’t see him anymore

[@traillesstravelled7901]

Nailed it!

[@juancolon123]

🤣

[@Nobody-dm2ol]

Dairy is scary. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5SxaIZ9fNR2hKs

[@neutronalchemist3241]

"We selected the pattern that the enemy is less likely to use!" "Yeah, but there's a reason for that."

[@mrguiltyfool]

Navy logic: issued camo to sailors to make rescue harder

[@Joshua_N-A]

Is that why they wear bright color life jackets?

[@gooseman7522]

Joshua N. Ajang as far as aircraft carriers go the colors on their life jackets corresponds to their job like their jersey does for whatever job it is they do on the flight deck

[@Joshua_N-A]

@@gooseman7522 I thought those are normal jackets. Maybe I don't look it thoroughly.

[@Spudmuffinz]

No its so the sharks dont see you silly

[@mrguiltyfool]

forresthop don’t know if normal camo works on sharks or not

[@scratchy996]

The worst thing about the UCP was when it got dark outside. Everything got dark really fast, except for the UCP.

[@juicyd99]

I actually think it worked best at night. Better than everyone's beloved BDUs that present a dark silhouette.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@juicyd99 idk man our our ucp rucks and woobies(all that's really left) basically glow in the dark especially under nods

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@juicyd99 ocp shit just kinda disappears in the night and actually works really fucking good in the woods like I remember my ds legit not being able to find me during a security halt lmao

[@carsonkouts]

That shit made sere so much harder. Literally a bunch of Chem lights walking around the woods

[@radioactive9861]

But remember, Maxawe Some...'black is not a color found in nature'...

[@jamescrew5460]

They worked pretty good back in training I blended in pretty well with all the other people wearing ACUs

[@ninjabaiano6092]

This reminds me of zebras

[@arthas640]

so we're going for the "Zebras blending in with their herd and nothing else" approach. Now we just need to develop a doctrine that requires our men to only fight in densely packed blocks of men like its the 1700s again. Luckily Americas enemies are incompetent enough that the strategy will probably work.

[@adambald600]

😂

[@LOKSTED]

Space is black and covers more than 99% of the universe. Universal camouflage: **White**

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

It's more like a light tan/gravel green thing

[@certivicator932]

supernovacondensate.net/2017/03/07/cosmic-latte/ thats actually the color of the universe...

[@antoniofrancis1736]

White is actually every color combined, so if you use a white camouflage, you will always be the color of the enviroment ur in

[@ilikeyourname4807]

@@certivicator932 That's the color of all the light in the universe. Everything that's not light is pretty much black. And there's way more dark than light in the universe

[@ilikeyourname4807]

@@antoniofrancis1736 Funnily enough, if you can make a set of mirrors avoid the sky and sun it might actually blend in with its environment rather well. That's only related to your comment if you can call a mirror white (vsauce theme)

[@stephenholbrook4391]

Army Ranger 1988-2001 I’m still a fan of the woodland camo pattern. It worked fine in the desert, it just needed to get a little dusty or wear a faded set. It worked great at night. It worked well in the jungle. It even worked well in snow as long as you stayed near trees and vegetation. I hunt with woodland camo even today.

[@HappyHermitt]

93-2000 Woodland BDUs and polished boots. Wasn't in ranger bn but lots of buddies and my old CO were. Served with Setaf in Vicenza and ETSd from Hunter. My old bde cmdr in italy was Col. James McDonough. The movie and book Platoon Leader was his story. You got out when they stole the rangers beret. That was cheesy.

[@rc59191]

I was only an Airman but I actually liked the Army UCP and our digital tiger stripe version it works good where I live and our Defense Militia adopted the Army UCP since it does a good job up in the mountains and urban environments.

[@hrub]

God's camo

[@robertalaverdov8147]

I think Space Force might be able to use UCP on the moon. It'll help in blending with the desolate grey environment.

[@YouTubeAIbot]

That actually might work lmao

[@Joshua_N-A]

For some reason I always thought that UCP is more suitable for security personnel guarding places like the Pentagon.

[@poisonpotato1]

Ohhh so that's why its called Universal because space camo

[@tristanbackup2536]

I always think that it is best suited for industrial & concrete urban looking environments like some far off colony on a different planet. Yeah, to be real, the moon as well. Also their is place not far from where I live in Australia, UCP does actually blend very very well in a moss-rocky up near the mountains somewhat similar to the Skyrim video game environment. Problem is, calling it universal pattern when it just works in a alien-looking environment. 😂

[@LavenderSystem69]

The blue in it will stand out

[@YouTubeAIbot]

“You guys are idiots they’re gonna be looking for army guys”

[@___axg96___63]

DOD Clown shoes! Genius!

[@imanrobota4849]

QUICK! Pretend to be a concrete wall or crushed stone driveway, they'll never suspect a thing!

When I was in Iraq (contracting) Army guys would tell me "it's great if you're trying hid in a pile of concrete rubble... but otherwise you stand out like a sore thumb" - that and it was much heavier / thicker than the old BDUs which was not so great in... well... Iraq.

[@CallMeCU8E]

When I was contracting in Iraq, we were rocking the chocolate chip desert (DBDU). Army guys would always jokingly ask if we have been guarding this building since the Gulf War.

[@kingleonidas4296]

Call Me CU8E always loved the military guys sense of humor.

[@Joshua_N-A]

What is the most used paint color on buildings in Iraq?

[@WraithLK]

@@Joshua_N-A probably desert tan

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@Joshua_N-A tan, because they’re made out of sandstone and not usually painted (at least from what I’ve seen).

[@jasonarcher7268]

I was in afghanistan in 2005, when the army started fielding the ACUs. One national guard unit there was half wearing ACUs, and half wearing the old DCUs. I remember watching them walk up a hill, and seeing just how worthless the ACUs were.

[@adgepipkin2715]

The

[@Mike0405H]

The universal camo pattern.... all so we could blend into grandmas couch

[@bigjuicypotato1482]

It cant even do that

[@bradsmgads1302]

works well for gravel motorpools

[@zimbabwe-wz5iw]

@@bradsmgads1302 and certain boulders in Idaho

[@acn1813]

*Two color desert*

[@charlesshelton7989]

I'm ex chair Force. We don't like the ABU either

[@davidbrown4449]

The Germans had the answer in WWll. They took a good camo pattern like oakleaf, and made two versions of reversible tunics/trousers. one was spring/summer, the other was fall/winter. Reversibles aren't perfect and tend to be a little heavy, but very effective and versatile. In the US's case, you would have to add desert/desert vegetation, made with a lighter, moisture wicking material.

[@grim6980]

A solid example of what we call "military intelligence."

[@petecoppola5428]

Not true. Scroll down to the second picture, and you'll see: soldiersystems.net/2019/09/29/tomorrow-is-your-last-day-to-wear-army-ucp-and-navy-blueberry-uniforms/

[@john-lenin]

And he’s 100% wrong.

[@TeensierPython]

Grim - military intelligence has nothing to do with designing camo.

[@grim6980]

​@@TeensierPython Yes, I know. It's sort of an inside joke for those of us that have been in the military.

[@TeensierPython]

Grim - I hear it from people not in the military. But understood.

[@Axemantitan]

Lt. Col. O'Neill did develop the first digital camo for use on vehicle in the 70s, but it was the Canadians who developed the digital camo patterns that are used on uniforms. They started fielding digital helmet covers in 1995, and entire uniforms in 1999. The Marine Corps liked what they saw, licensed it, and changed it to fit the semi-arid environments that they fight in. That's why the Marine woodland pattern has more tans and browns, whereas the previous CADPAT looks like relish with greens and black.

[@sabrepax9012]

There's an uptadeted version that will enter service in the forthcoming years in the CAF , more adapted to "universal use" with more light Brown and Beige because the old CADPAT was best suited for jungles and east coast northern forests...

[@MCTicTac]

Everytime i hear "Colonel O'Neil" i just think of Stargate SG-1 😂

[@Gottaculat]

"That's O'Neill, with two Ls!"

[@Tounushi]

"Magnets!"

[@danielrobinson2861]

I'm going to go wacko

[@Tounushi]

@@danielrobinson2861 Lose it, it means go crazy. Nuts. Insane. Bonzo. No longer in possession of one's faculties. T h r e e f r i e s s h o r t o f a h a p p y m e a l. WACKO!!!!!

[@rvoight92]

Same. No wonder the military was looking for one camo pattern that would work in every environment...

[@Axemantitan]

The Desert Brush camo reminds me of the Rhodesian Brushstroke camo, which worked very well in Southern Africa and almost became the USMC camo.

[@zidniafifamani2378]

I misread "Brushstroke" as "Bruhstroke"

[@themcchuck8400]

I was working with the first Stryker brigade testbed in Iraq. Everybody knew the ACU was terrible, from the design to the camo to the horrible pockets to the idiotic velcro that melted in the laundry and got gummed up with sand and dust. And yes, the crotch of the pants ripped open regularly and rather easily. Big Army knew all this, and went forward with the project anyways. Why? Because the Uniform Board members need their kickback money every few years. Anybody else remember the slight change in the shade of the green dress jacket back in the 1990's? You had to check the tag to see if you had the correct version.

[@news_internationale2035]

@96D4HS9 They should keep the beret wearing reserved for the French and special forces.

[@koonteriskool]

Hey, we were winning the war when we had the UCP and started losing when we switched to the OCP. Maybe it was useful for something.

[@arighteousname5882]

@@koonteriskool 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@arighteousname5882]

Nothing like being out in sector and taking a knee to pull security only to have your crotch rip open and a bunch of Iraqi kids laughing at you. 🤣

[@deusvult6920]

@@news_internationale2035 I didn't mind the beret when I was on road duty as a MP but I absolutely hated wearing it any other time. On the road we had go look good - which is why we were prohibited from wearing the ACU until it became mandatory, not just authorized. Our CSM didn't like it didn't have to be ironed

[@MrTangent]

One can only imagined how many soldiers were killed by this horrible camouflage. Multicam/Scorpion W2/OCP FTW.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Why they can't just keep the woodland and desert 3 color for a while and then grab something off the shelf by commercial manufacturers? You already got A-TACS, US4CES, Multicam etc...

[@MrTangent]

Joshua N. Ajang Big Army haven’t used those two camos in almost twenty years. It would be cost prohibitive to go back to them, especially when OCP/Multicam outperforms them.

[@letoubib21]

@@MrTangent Guess he meant why we didn't just keep it, not to reintroduce it. Btw., what I do hate ain't the camo, it's the cut of the ACU. Wearing the BDU a soldier looked spirited. Wearing the ACU he looks like a trashman *. . . ;-)*

[@Shadow77999]

Thats what i was thinking

[@GiskardRevenlov]

Concamo ftw

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Ghost _what now_ ballistic fibre poles?? _Hey dude, I heard you like tactical so I put some tactical in your tent poles_

[@Taskandpurpose]

I need my tent poles to stop bullets that's just how tactical I tactical. hooah?

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@Taskandpurpose Think you need to put some girth on those bones there, sailor.

[@beowulf9878]

I need ballistic poles that actually shoot bullets.

[@darylgifford460]

We need more godamn tatical pockets in our tent poles

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@darylgifford460 😂😂 You can also sharpen them for boar hunting Change the TV channel when the batteries in the remote are lost Make spikes for traps Create rudimentary spear.

[@traillesstravelled7901]

"Black is not found in nature", wtf said the zebra, skunk, 99.9% of all insects, anything not in the sun, birds, mold, I would keep going but I don't want to be here all week.

[@deangullberry5148]

Black bears Black tail deer Black birds Black cats I'm seeing a pattern...

[@billmelater6470]

.....you're not trying to blend in with animals....

[@traillesstravelled7901]

@@billmelater6470 Only on Saturday nights😉 Don't ask, don't let! They've been hiding from things, for some reason🥩, and some of them are have kinda nailed it.

[@billmelater6470]

@@traillesstravelled7901 lol. That doesn't sound like something I want to ask about anyway XD I'm just saying that you'll only find it in specific circumstances where black is functional and it is by far the exception, not the rule. Black for example is not a great choice in a desert any other place where the contrast will be striking. Sure, animals have been adept at hiding, but this does not apply across the board. Not all colors are actually meant to blend in. Yes, black bears are black, but take them out of a deep shaded area in the distance and put them in an open lit grassy area and see how well they blend. When people say "black isn't found in nature" it is a bit misleading. What we interpret as and call black does exist, but nothing is ever "black". It's usually dark shade of a specific color. Other than that, it's not saying that these dark colors can't be found being used in nature so much as it is saying that you won't find an all black forest or an all black desert. The heavy contrast will more times than not attract the eye, rather than trick it. A good use of dark colors would be to create depth and help break up shapes/outlines but all black just creates stark contrast. As for zebras, it's a very different approach. They aren't trying to hide or blend with grass so much as they are trying to become obscure when seen in a group from a distance. It's where they got the idea for dazzle paint on ships. It's a decent idea when you're only trying to confuse, not great if your goal is to go unnoticed.

[@traillesstravelled7901]

@@billmelater6470 Yeah totally. Animals use dark colors, and I don't think the idea of one pattern to rule them all is the way to go. You gave the example of a black bear in a grassy field, witch fully illustrates that the appropriate pattern for that terrain, throw some Vietnam old school jungle on the bear and harder to see,perfect no, but now when he makes the tree line and sits still 👍. I just think that it's been over thought a little to much from the brain drain. And other than covert stuff, untill we all get Predator invisible, gonna be seen, especially if there's movement. Most animals,us included, see movement o.k., so just wish they'd stop trying to be overly clever , just put there head down put in some practical research and come up appropriate cammo for situation. Maybe dirty dishes, nobody in my house ever sees those, or full trash, maybe in cold climate behind the milk. 🤦

[@nunyabznss5866]

Okay I'm old, because I remember in basic using using those canvas tents. You got issued half and needed your battle buddy to actually make a full tent. Also remember cruising in Iraq with desert camo DCUs with woodland colored body armor and Humvees.

[@joshm3484]

I bet you went through boot camp around the same time as me. Back when you were given an Alice pack and those Vietnam era flack jackets?

[@82ndAbnVet]

Yup, we were issued 2 sets of the "Chocolate Chips" along with the kevlar cover when we went to Saudi in 1990. Our Alice packs, LCE's, Humvee's, and camo netting was all woodland pattern. We did manage to get some of the vehicles painted to a desert theme once we realized Saddam was a pussy, but everything else stayed woodland.

[@xRepoUKx]

You got issued half a tent? What happened when there was an odd number of guys? 😂

[@SuperiorApostate]

@@xRepoUKx you had to wait for someone to die.

[@hazonku]

Same. And then we went back in UCP with woodland TA-50 in MOLLE. Eventually we got UCP IBAs and helmet covers, but I ended up kitting out my IBA with Spec-Ops tan pouches and a tri color desert Camelbak because fuck UCP. DCUs were FAR superior, albeit they had the same blown out crotch issue.

[@westonfudge6353]

Why don’t they just make it like a sports penny, one side one color, u have one color, bam, flip it inside out and u got a different color, presto.

[@honkhonk8009]

I think your onto something. wtf.

[@radialrothary]

Finland did this with the old M62 uniform, one side green/brown summer camo, other side white snow camo. The same concept is still in use with the finnish M05 helmet cover, which you can turn inside out to switch between summer or winter camo. I'd imagine the reason for why it's not done anymore with the actual uniforms, is that you'd have to make the uniforms very loose to wear (more loose than they already are by design) for you to be able to fit _an entire winter jacket_ under what is essentially your summer uniform, so it's just more practical to have snow camo as an additional layer, which can then also be specifically designed for use in winter and snow without compromises to the design. So it's likely just due to the vast difference between summer and winter. That being said I don't see why the US indeed couldn't apply this very concept for a "universal" uniform if it's all about desert vs forest, which do not require dramatic differences in gear.

[@callsignsparty6503]

In WW2 the German Wehermacht and Waffen SS were both issued camouflaged smocks with fall and spring designs

[@Joshua_N-A]

Olive drab and sage green on one side and Delta on the other.

[@f1reguy587]

Or flip it inside out orange with day glows for rescues...

[@Axemantitan]

In 1991, the British ran into the problem of the enemy wearing the same uniform as them. The Iraqis had a desert DPM uniform just like the British one, so the Ministry of Defence had to quickly issue a different desert DPM pattern for troops deploying to the Gulf.

[@artoflife101]

The pattern itself is perfectly fine. It's the light grey color choice that doesn't make sense. Any shade of brown would've been better, for example.

[@Shamelesscritique1]

Exactly...but honestly the pattern is largely irrelevant compared to the colour shade (the brightness)...all a "pattern" has to do is breakup basic lines, I.E not actually be an instantly recognisable pattern.

[@user-qd7eh1lx7l]

UCP is actually very good for desert environment

[@Joshua_N-A]

If only they use olive drab.

[@chargingnoisesintensify6335]

Or the goddamm blue in the uniform

[@lwysparagon8109]

Only Navy's AOR III is an effective one color-wise of the same pixelated pattern. Nobody else pick the right colors for this pattern. You name them, AOR I , UCP, MCU woodland or even the originator the Canadian Army.

[@bullettime001]

I give it a thumbs up just for Metal Gear (optic camouflage for the win)

[@Taskandpurpose]

easily my favorite game series RIP MGS

[@Peglay]

Im still waiting for the military to invent that Octocamo suit

[@willyjfigueroa]

I like the active camo in mgs4 : octo camo

[@bullettime001]

@@Peglay DARPA already did couple years ago you wear a poncho like in Metal Gear Solid 2 opening cutscene

[@Taskandpurpose]

@@bullettime001 I'm going to look into that camo for part 2 of this video

[@dirtyd2316]

I still think the Germans got it right in Ww2 and had some of the most effective camo patterns to date. Especially their Oakleaf autumn and spring patterns.

[@mardiffv.8775]

That is why I use Flecktarn in fall and winter. Very similar to Oakleaf.

[@richardsawyer5428]

The Irish forces during WW2 (aka "the Emergency) added temporary camouflage to their vehicles during the autumn. I've no idea if that was inspired by Germany or if it was some clever Irish military type doing off their own back. Can't get flecktarn now as the Bundeswehr are not releasing it to the surplus market ☹

[@viefcheesecake]

That was however their environment

[@Abensberg]

how dare you to say ze germans had something better than ze americans! outrageous.

[@indy197905]

Here's a video showing how effective it is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGXIkmBmp5Wirdk

[@reaganriddle1583]

“Hey billy what is this supposed to look like” “the Rocky Mountains” “the Rockies of Afghanistan?”

[@reaganriddle1583]

Zoinks Scoob nah

[@Tounushi]

The BLUE Rocky Mountains!

[@totalrobot]

The Colorado Rockies

[@TylertheCC1010fan]

What mountains are blue in Iraq?, what mountains are blue in Afghanistan?, are there any blue mountains in Iraq or Afghanistan or the horn of Africa?

[@VashGames]

Ah, your pattern incorporates crayons well. Just how the Marines like it.

[@olliegoria]

That’s funny because the Marines were actually competent in uniform design

[@philliplopez2231]

Honest answer: The military chose UCP largely in an effort to field a camoflouge pattern that would excell at breaking up Infra Red. The hope was that this would make us safer from next generation battlefield threats. As is often the case, the brass saw this as a huge advantage...but the men immediately understood that the Army had managed to screw up the impossible...thier cammo. In the end we all agreed that the best place to hide in UCP/ACUs was in formation. And no, it wasn't funny.

[@DooTSweeT]

Everyday, our soldiers are slowly becoming stormtroopers

[@jessevanderkolk7902]

A classic of "if you do three things at 40% you'l fail all of them but still work your ass of a 120%"

[@jspec-vz3mc]

So what I've noticed is ACU was great during prolonged stays in the field. Those such light colors would stain and adjust to the terrain you wore them in. Like I went through a bog and when I came out my uniform looked like marine MARPAT camo. In NTC they took on a more sandy look.

[@smesaric]

Actually the US Army didn't modify/"steal" multicam, they already owned the original scorpion pattern which they contracted Crye to make for them back in 2003, where it was used in those camouflage trials you mentioned, and yes, overall, the "desert brush" pattern beat it. Scorpion W2 (aka OCP), is as far as we know identical in pattern to the original scorpion, whith the only difference probably being slight updates to the color pallete. Otherwise a great video! You didn't exactly take a completely neutral stance on the issue, but we all know how if you even mention how UCP isn't that terrible you will get crucified by a bunch of keyboard warriors Part 1 of Hyperstealth's "U.S. Army Camouflage Improvement Explained" has some great info on this. I would highly suggest anyone interested in camouflage to read all of the parts, 1-6.

[@Taskandpurpose]

Thanks for the feedback I wasn't aware of that! I'll make sure to amend that fact about Cyre and multicam next time I do a video on camouflage. Personally when I wore the UCP in Iraq I never was upset with it. None of us really complained about it because once you covered it in enough dirty it actually worked fine. Also another big point is whenever we rolled outside the wire everyone and their cousin knew we were coming. Stealth wasn't a huge factor for 4 strykers and 40 troops doing a staggered column march down the road.

[@smesaric]

@@Taskandpurpose Thanks for the reply, glad I could help and it was really interesting to here you perspective on UCP during your time in iraq!

[@X4Alpha4X]

its not the same, i can always spot who has OCP vs Scorpion because of the vertical elements to the pattern. Go back to 8:22 and look, you see all of those vertical "slash" marks, they don't exist anywhere in the OCP pattern.

[@smesaric]

AlphaEXZ yeah I know

[@richardsawyer5428]

Cheers. We use MTP for dog training as our British stuff is cheap, the kit is well thought out (20 quid for a jacket, fiver for a tin of Barbour wax if so inclined) and an idiot like me with no military experience can hide in the hills of South Wales with ease.

[@cherminatorDR]

Lol, your grandpa's tent is eerily reminiscent to the "hooches" I used in Canada. As for UCP, I remember doing a joint exercise with some US army guys, and we were going on a night raid one time, and I could see white blobs hovering above where the road used to be. When I got closer, those turned out to be American troops. Didn't see any of my fellow Canadians though.

[@georgewashington7312]

Dye it candy apple green and you have a pretty close representation of Russian digital flora.

[@miguelencanarias]

I saw that video. When you dye it candy apple green it turns into the Mexican Army's camo to a point bordering copyright infringement. And no, I am not Mexican.

[@georgewashington7312]

@@miguelencanarias it's also very close to Canadian Cadpat as well, if I remember correctly.

[@miguelencanarias]

@@georgewashington7312 That's right, but of course missing the black and tan present in CADPAT. It is closer to the Mexican Army pattern because that one is basically a digital pattern made exclusively of different shades of green.

[@Tounushi]

AFAIK, that pattern has as many color variations as Flora. And it does include black pixels.

[@charliebartek2929]

But what about the Russian Ratnik and VKBO camo patterns? They are way better then the universal camo by the US

[@MLN-yz4ph]

I am an old guy, and went in 1986 and your ad made me want to comment . We did not have shelters we had shelter half's! It took two of us to just make a tent lol. For the larger tents we had a "sledge-o-matic" circus hammer to put them up. That part of the military has gotten so much better and I am glad. A simple AA would take a hours to set up and now it is much less.

[@elakawczynski1750]

I have waited for this video forever Thank you

[@Taskandpurpose]

I try to follow through even if it takes me a minute haha thanks for hanging in there! I just finished the script for the other video I promised I'd make awhile ago about the differences between Marine and Army infantry platoons

[@tacticaltinkerbell]

Does the "Spaghetti Cameo" come in BLACK?!

[@glennmitchell9107]

The first time I saw ACU's I thought they were wearing pajamas. Has anyone considered using a breathable, smock/poncho with reversible camo patterns? A layered version that could be worn over load carrying equipment, that instead of a continuous garment, would have separate panels that would hang open at the bottom and sides so that gear and uniform pockets could be freely accessed. There would also be a vertical slit below the crotch so the legs would not be restricted. It would also do a better job of breaking up the Soldier's outline. There would then be no need to have camo patterned uniforms. Soldiers could look like Soldiers again in starched and ironed olive drab utilities.

[@bambamermitanyo1049]

I used to see soldiers with various indoor duty, walking around the Los Angeles area in the modern camos. They looked downcast. Bring back pride.

[@picochily]

We need to go back to Vietnam/WW2 Uniforms, just olive green. I love the cut of current OCPS, but I think they would be best as a solid green

[@Orca19904]

Funny thing is, Crye Multicam was actually the runner-up to the UCP when the Army was originally developing the Army Combat Uniform, making it more ironic that we use that pattern now (or at least something "similar" to it).

[@landonbuenconsejo2856]

Its really amazes me how you can f up such a simple concept? A bunch of 5th graders would have picked OCP over UCP, yet a room full of old people really went out of the way to waste a billion dollars on americas WORST uniform, like ever! SMH LOL 🤦🏽‍♂️ Nobody felt sexy in that uniform.

[@tauneutrino1able]

IMO (uneducated at that) I'd say that the biggest problem is the "universal" part. Take the pattern and put more green in it for vegetation, brown for desert, and grey for urban it would probably work way better. My 2 cents. The tricky part is getting the greens right, the human visual spectrum is especially tuned for greens. For me in the current version the green is what I notice. It pops out in the desert/ urban environments and is too faded for vegetation.

[@SirCharles12357]

I was told by a SGM that they were designed for an urban environment; so more concrete/stoney/bricky. Still, we always wind up either covered in dust or mud, so it really doesn't matter one way or another.

[@EdgewiseSJ]

Just fyi, it wasn't that long ago when I was issued one of those canvas half-tents. It was still a thing in the 90's, and they work fine. Ish. They work fine-ish.

[@Niinsa62]

Since I'm a total history nerd. The Austro-Hungarian Imperial army of World War One wore light grey uniforms, about the same color as the UCP. From a distance you can't tell if the uniform is solid grey, or UCP. And they were painfully visible in any type of surroundings. The only thing we learn from history, is that we never learn from history... Also, the Hilleberg Unna is a very good little tent: hilleberg.com/eng/tent/red-label-tents/unna/?language=EN

[@bionicsjw]

Love to hear your take on returning to the Pink and Greens.

[@josephbadger5234]

I am a total novice. You do an incredible job. It is well written, well produced, creative, and innovative. I learn something every time. Thanks.

[@thatguybitter4573]

I may not look good but it is iconic

[@BUBBA808]

Yup. So is woodland 🔥🇺🇸💪🏻

[@ThreeProphets]

Spaghetti Camo is clearly the biggest innovation in camouflage technology since the ghillie suit, the Army is making a big mistake not buying your design

[@Taskandpurpose]

When the 'Spaghetti Wars' begin , that's when they'll be reaching out to me for my advice

[@nonpartisangunowner4524]

9:00 So, his solution is to give us Chinese Type 99 Blue Camo.

[@jimmysox2260]

this is just like the story of the Bradley and that Navy camo in the end is pretty nice

[@jameswallace9906]

In the Marines we used a new fancy device super state of the art device perhaps you might’ve heard of it .....buttons.

[@nuster7816]

During the whole Video i just was thining: "the Germans used the Flecktarn (or sorts of it) since World War 2 and its still good"

[@XIGRIMxREAPERIX]

Fun Fact. Before the adoption the UCP the Miltary was "working" with Crye and devolped something simular to multicam. Crye ended up basing MultiCam off that design bc the miltary owned the rights to the previous design. Than Miltary based their new camo Off of the changes MultiCam Made than claimed it was actually based on the original camo MultiCam is based on. You_Made_This_ I_Made_This.jpg

[@cmarz6564]

"The original Scorpion pattern was jointly developed by Crye Precision and the Army for the Objective Force Warrior program in 2002, and Crye made small adjustments for trademark purposes to create MultiCam." - wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiCam#United_States)

[@HaqqAttak]

Another suspicious no bid style design contract. Who got rich off this scheme?

[@j0ndav1s]

Blood money

[@jic1]

Nobody, since the pattern is owned by the US Government, and the same contractors would have produced the uniforms no matter what was adopted. I think Hanlon's razor applies: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

[@HaqqAttak]

@@jic1 That maxim no longer applies in the current year.

[@jic1]

@@HaqqAttak Why?

[@HaqqAttak]

@@jic1 The country is as corrupt as the USSR before its collapse.

[@enzicalabs6166]

Probably some officers actual quote during testing, "Look! You can see it right over there. Look at how good it blends in!"

[@proamerican7093]

6:42 It actually took me a second to realize that there was a guy laying on the couch lmao.

[@WilliamOPearce]

I was a US Army Signal Corps noncom in the late 1970's. I never figured out why the US Army could never get the basics of common military equipment right. Nor even close to being correct. Don't get me started on the M-16. As my first briefing (standing in ranks) by the Drill Instructor. Was one hour in how the M-16 was going to malfunction in battle. And the M-16 was our primary tool used to keep us alive. Not a good briefing from a DI just back from Vietnam. Because the basic solution of camouflage was to issue a set of uniforms designed to blend into the area in which the soldier is assigned. The Woodland BDU worked reasonably well in Europe and Asia. Only a set of functional desert camo was needed to complete a set. Yet the prime selection category seems to design a battle uniform to make the soldier stand-out in all terrains. So as the officers can keep track of where their soldiers are deployed. While claiming it was designed to hide from equipment the enemy never had. Such as night-vision equipment issued to each enemy soldier.

[@lwysparagon8109]

How many years it take to change from gas operated M-16 to short piston M 27 in USMC and yes ,only in USMC.

[@neoconwarhawk1001]

It could blend into snow pretty well

[@wompa70]

I like the chocolate chip cookie design we wore in Saudi / Kuwait. Sometimes the best thing to do is just make more than one pattern.

[@smart00ass00inc]

The reason Crye wasn’t able to sue despite how similar the new OCP looks to Multicam is because the us army used the old scorpion pattern that crye submitted to the 2003 trials, and that was property of the army at that point

[@bambamermitanyo1049]

Prretty scummy if a customer asks for a sample then says its their property. Like something the Red Chinese would do.

[@zidniafifamani2378]

@@bambamermitanyo1049 it can't be scam if you already ready the contract fine print and agree to it.

[@HappyHermitt]

Whatever replaced the old green Class As is awesome. I'm a WW2 nut, and a Woodland BDU veteran from the 90s. They rock.

[@resolute123]

All I wanted was a pair of pants that worked. No fricking crotch rips.

[@micos94]

The other pattern, the one I wore in Afganistán - I forgot the name - but it was the best I’ve ever seen- while deployment training I was up on a tower and one of my soldiers went into the woods about 2 meters , maybe and he just disappeared, honestly that was impressive- it worked well in MOUT as well.

[@SovereignVis]

Why don't they just make reversible camouflage outfits? Desert on one side, then you flip your jacket, pants and hat/helmet cover inside out and it becomes forest camo. That way you have 2 different environments covered with one outfit.

[@SouthPoleAntarctica]

two sets of pockets and adding a lot of material. plust there's a lot of items that just cannot be reversed (plate carriers?). plus there are functional materials these days that have to be in correct order on the body.

[@corruptgamer8258]

Used these tents in our gunnery back in August due to covid mitigation. We're pretty good kept the elements out. Only thing is zipper gets snagged easily on the tarp.

[@stupidburp]

This wasn't a technological failure. The US Army was well aware that UCP is mediocre in many environments. But while environment specific camo was much better in its environment it often was much worse than UCP in other environments. The original intent was to use UCP as part of a complete logistical system where gray dominant UCP was the default because it was considered to be the least bad choice for operationg in all possible situations. This was to prevent going into battle with a completely wrong camo for the environment which would make you stick out. This happened during Desert Storm, where some went to the desert in woodland camo gear. A universal camo was meant to solve this problem by sending them with still the wrong camo, but less wrong. Then the key point was to then follow up with environment specific uniforms and gear as soon as possible. But, somebody at the budget level decided that the critical step two environment specific gear cost too much and this step one stuff was supposed to be "universal" so why bother? It was a fundamental failure to understand the concept as a system to solve a logistical problem and was then ruined by budget cuts and inertia, shoving just half the system out. UCP would still be a good choice for certain users and environments, such as people primarily in urban areas, on ships, on airfields, in offices, and in docks. Areas where gray dominant works well.

[@Taskandpurpose]

pretty sure "less wrong" is the army motto haha. great additional details here wish I could have included some of these facts in the video!

[@germaxicus6670]

Thanks for fleshing out the idea behind UCP. I definitely feel in gravelly, rocky areas it tends to be good; especially when local dust gets in the mix.

[@Phantom-bh5ru]

UCP would be great in mountains

[@lwysparagon8109]

I don't think it's a reasonable defending. Multicam can be substituted in every single word of UCP with the effective outcome.

[@shotcall1]

We called them ACUs back in 2006-2010... also we were told they were meant to be best to blend from everything from forests, desert to urban. Most of us hated them. Wish we had the new multi cam... I will admit that I first met my recruiter in a target wearing the ACUs/ (UCPs?) and that had at least a somewhat significant influence on me signing the lining. At the time I thought they looked pretty cool. Once I was getting shot at I definitely changed my mind.

[@connorsproles9239]

I feal like you are missing the most important advantage of the digi; we strategically tricked the Chinese into adopting an air soft version of the "camouflage," dramatically hampering their combat effectiveness.

[@Williameagleblanket]

The Good Idea Fairy in the Army picked the UCP. I wore: 1991- chocolate chip uniform Desert Storm, 2001- DCU in Egypt, 2003-04 DCU Kandahar, 2005-06 UCP in Baghdad, 2010-11 in Kabul we wore the UCP which sucks. 🇺🇸

[@jamesweir139]

Lol the fairly odd parents meme, very nice

[@aveteranplayer6403]

Everyone says bad things about this camouflage, but it was my childhood playing it as Rangers in mw2. So I love it :)

[@zinedinezethro9157]

Pentagon after watching this vid: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

[@killbot1974]

I know I'm gonna catch hell for this, but I like UCP. Where I live, it's lots of limestone outcroppings, and the soil has a greyish tinge to it. UCP blends in with that pretty well. Bonus is that the surplus market is flooded with new, cheap camo that I can use.

[@vasilzahariev5741]

I've never served in any military, but to me this camouflage looks suitable for urban environments.

[@alexanderp8037]

It works in urban enviroments and deserts sometimes also in fields of reeds during autumn

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

The funny thing is that not all UCP even works well under night vision (Near Infrared). Some contractor's (Bluewater)version appears all white under NVG, just like most civilian cloths. regardless of color, expect black, appears to be white under NVG. It depends on the dye, some of my issued OCP also appears as white, but some retain their pattern.

[@DABOMB-kp7lq]

Why did you run Chris I couldn't see you through that thick forest

[@charlie11ng42]

Fun fact, this camo works great in sagebrush.

[@Ispeedymg]

HE LIVES

[@grumbeard]

Every time you say O'Neill, I am picturing Jack O'Neill from stargate SG1 giving a lesson on cammo in his own sarcastic way.

[@blakedavis2447]

They clearly went with the zebra method of camouflage by having a bunch of crazy patterns to confuse the enemy when multiple soldiers are next to each other

[@primarchmortarion]

Don’t forget that MARPAT was based off of CADPAT. Canada did it first.

[@si6585]

" Remember, your unit deserves the best gear possible " Iran's military: haha gear made about 50 years ago that possibly don't even work anymore go brrrrrrrrr

[@applejackhonesty1960]

Ucp is mainly effective depending on range and lighting, it blends in with deserts with a lot of dead shit and can eventually make you blend in well.....it can work it's just harder to use, every photo you see is from 10 to 20 feet away when it's better at 100 to 200 yards.

[@applejackhonesty1960]

Also ucp works better in winter conditions than ocp

[@Mr9Guns]

It's extremely difficult to make one camo for all environments. The best I've seen so far for multi environment is Concamo but it has limitations. the Pencott stuff is really good too but they have several different patterns.

[@drydogg]

I didn't get a nylon dome tent until October of 1996. The army had them for a while before we got them. All we had until then was canvas shelter halves. They're not that hard to put up and put up right. Although, even if you put them up right they still suck. No floor, too small, noisy aluminum tent stakes. It was 1996 and we were still using WW I technology. Thanks Marine Corps.

[@mr.normalguy69]

If it's good at everything, then it's great at nothing.

[@BUBBA808]

Multicam: *nervous sweating*

[@WardenWolf]

I did not serve in the military, but I have done various wargaming scenarios where you are typically much closer and can truly learn what works and doesn't work as far as camo goes. Compared to the old US Woodland camo, UCP is actually a major step up. With UCP, if you're kneeling down and have a bush in front of you, you won't look the slightest bit out of place. Everyone will just think you're a rock, and you can observe without being seen. With Woodland camo, though, all they're going to see is a big black blob because the average color is too dark and it eats light. Its reflectivity is substantially lower than the natural environment. UCP actually works well if employed correctly; I have literally had people miss me from less than 50 feet away. However, I have yet to see a single scenario where Woodland camo actually works in daytime. Now, if we're talking the old Russian Flora camo, that's another story. That's altogether a much better-designed pattern. UCP had its haters, and I understand why. Multicam and Scorpion OCP are a bit more effective. The takeaway lesson here, though, is you have to know how to actually employ your camo. No camo will disguise a person who's standing in the open. You need partial concealment and you need to position yourself correctly so as to change your outline.

[@WardenWolf]

@Douglas Pantera I mean, at 500 yards distance, camo can potentially work when you're in the open, but it has to be a very exact match for the terrain. The key thing about camo is that the average color needs to be something that COULD be in the environment. The eye notices contrast first. Woodland is worthless because its average color is basically on par with charcoal; it'd have to be a VERY wet forest for it to be functional, and even then I'd rather be wearing UCP simply because its reflectivity is closer to nature. Even if you match the shade with Woodland, because the reflectivity is off it will only match at a particular time of day; its less-advanced dyes simply don't work well. Meanwhile, UCP, Multicam and Scorpion maintain a light reflectivity that is fairly close to nature at any given time of day, although all three work best when they're a bit dusty. Clean camo is ineffective camo.

[@MrHappy4870]

Amazing that Uncle Sam rejected Gucci-flage

[@pxrays547]

Thanks for the video. I just watch another YT guy where he broke down the design failures of the garment, packs, and other accessories. For instance the velcro failing in dirt/ mud, etc. This fits right in; very informative and combining it with some humor.

[@-John-Doe-]

I've never seen a hunter wear universal camouflage...

[@enasnI99]

@Al D Dun dun duuuuun!

[@bullzebub]

bah. you dont need camo for hunting. its more important to take care of smell.

[@FalloutUrMum]

I'm not in the military and I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'd suggest a deep blue shade to replace black. In art you typically blend blue with a color to add shadow, most shadows in nature are perceived as a shade of blue. Sweden actually uses deep blue in its camo

[@szariq7338]

I'll just say it: If something is for everything, it's for nothing.

[@tankeater]

POGs didn't understand the camo and nether did low speed sham battalions... The second we got to Iraq we got dirt from that area, and made it into mud. We caked all of our FRACUs and let it dry. Then washed off all the mud, and put our uniforms into the laundry... We blended into our environment BECAUSE WE WORE THE ENVIRONMENT!!! Learned that in basic training! But, high speed high stress at Sand Hill was a lot different then people that got to go to the PX in week 2... Week 11, we got a 2 hour "free time" to go to the PX to get things for a packing list. Before that, March to the PX, nut to butt, single file.

[@donh1572]

How many people died because of this camo. I remember seeing someone wearing these camo pattern pants 200 yards away and was thinking how easy it was to pick him out

[@greyhunter3271]

Not alot really. Cause most deaths where from being in a known location. Camo wouldnt have saved most of those who died.

[@donh1572]

@@greyhunter3271 but I’m sure it killed a few, especially with afghan sharpshooters

[@sovereign831]

I've also thought of reversible pants and shirt which could have sand color, and forest camos.

[@oldsoldier181]

I got out shortly before they started fielding this crap (I got out in 03). At my last duty station, Cuba, the woodland, when you had the lightweight version (and, as a grunt, I dont think anyone EVER wore the heavyweight version outside of Basic), it faded well, and blended extremely well in that environment, which was a brown, rocky, scrub brush, arid environment. I was actually very surprised. New BDUs stuck out like a sore thumb. But, a couple months of washing, sweating, sun baking, and they blended in perfectly. The old woodland pattern was perhaps the best pattern we have had. I recently heard it now referred to as "American Partisan" camo, lol

[@fredfour0]

Why did he say technology was your greatest strength? I thought diversity was your greatest strength

[@JoHn-gi1lb]

He's talking about US, not EU.

[@jonasbrm]

Mmm, im surprised you didnt take a bite out of the green one, those are my favourite! I like the Spaghetti pattern man :)