Unpacking Enver Gortash - A Baldur's Gate 3 Analysis

[@Louves192]

Gortash is living one of the best revenge fantasies a child of neglectful/abusive parents can have. Good for him. He is just such a filthy disgusting racoon man and for that I love him. I just wished he was an artificer, there are not enough evil artificers in Faerun.

[@redsun7223]

They really should have added that class

[@rvsbhrt]

he kinda is though! there's just no playable artificer class in bg3, but I do believe that he at least is supposed to be one in terms of concept.

[@Snoop_was_here]

@@rvsbhrtwhat is Gortash listed as class wise?

[@rvsbhrt]

@@Snoop_was_here I don't know if there's reliable way to see that, NPCs don't have their classes in the info that you can see directly in game. So it's up to speculation for now, I guess.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

I mean, he’s still not great as a person. He orchestrated the whole thing with having bombs in the refugee children’s toys and pretty much repeated the cycle of abuse with Karlach, after all. I get the vibe he thinks that everyone in the world, including himself, is evil. I reckon he thinks anyone who seems good is only pretending, which sort of explains what he did to Karlach. That would make a lot of sense given what he went through.

[@Aikiboo]

i always assumed him being described as a needy child meant he actually wasnt actually needy, just a child with normal needs and his parents werent prepared for how much a child needs

[@Louves192]

Yea I agree that he probably was just a normal kid. Calling a child needy for having the most basic needs is something abusive parents do.

[@havocm2011]

I remember hearing that line I shouted he was a child

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

I doubt they’re reliable narrators about the “hateful” thing, either. He probably just verbally retaliated against the abuse or just understandably was enraged when his parents sold him.

[@artificerprime4154]

The most tragic thing about Gortash imo is how he ended. No matter what you as the player do, Gortash will die in the end (either because of you or the Netherbrain). And the moment he dies, Bane takes his soul and tortures him for what will likely be an eternity. So basically, he spent much of his adult life trying to build up power so he could never be harmed again, only to end up being Bane's torture victim in his afterlife.

[@korgclips868]

You reap what you sow, If he was willing to go through with orchestrating the Absolute plot with the intent on subjugating all of the World than he got what was coming to him, What’s tragic is that he was doomed to become what he was through circumstance in Life; I would feel bad but he just repeats the cycle of abuse that he fell into so whole heartily his Fate was of his own miscalculations.

[@illiaJ5622]

9:42 I think Gortash sold Karlach for Infernal Iron to make Steel Watchers. There's an interaction between Karlach and a Steel Watcher in the Lower City, where the Watcher calls her an "Outdated model", recognising her Engine. The Watcher is in the same general location where you find Lora, the one whose child was kidnapped by Ethel. And genuinely, where would he get that much Infernal Iron anyway, if not by getting something from a deal with Zariel. Karlach's engine was probably a "prototype", and after it showed it's power in The Blood War, Zariel gave Gortash the Iron (and whatever else there might have been in the deal).

[@PocketLeaves]

Ooh, I totally missed that! That makes sense

[@kidd32888]

Great explanation. Totally probable

[@mferrer2689]

Me and my friends headcanon his cartoonishly evil amount of gnome hatred is placed squarely on the shoulders of nubaldin, and being a cobblers son. The jokes write themselves.

[@Karolestube]

Larian writers and animators were so nuanced in their character developments that I’m inclined to believe you guys got it right on that one.

[@thevoidcritter]

as a gnome tav who was romancing Karlach I feel all sorts of ways

[@artificerprime4154]

Also, if I recall correctly, some of Gortash's writings show that he believes (on some twisted level) that his plot to dominate everyone would create some kind of utopia where everyone does as they're told and there is no more conflict. Which also probably stemmed from how horribly he was treated as he grew up.

[@hannahlachney5948]

If it wasn’t for karlach I’d be his biggest fan

[@adleo88]

Plenty of the BG3 companions have tortured backstories, and depending on choices they can embrace selfish, evil solutions to their trauma (ex. ascended Astarion, DJ Shart), or they can choose other options, not be evil, and have things turn out the best that they can. IMO, Gortash's big, character defining decision that sets him down an irredeemable path is selling Karlach. It's clear Karlach trusted him and thought of him as a friend, but he sold her to be a science experiment in hell anyway. We may not know exactly what he got (my guess is tech for the infernal engine/infernal iron/or possibly just a pile of soul coins), but he seems to have really popped off in the 10 years following that. I think from a psychological standpoint, Gortash wants security more than anything (sometimes literally). Being in control of everything and everyone means he has no one to scheme against him. The power he's seeking is a means to that end, but there's a lot of other ways he could've tried to acquire that security that didn't involve behaving like the people who wronged him (parents, Raphael). By perpetuating that cycle of abuse, he feels some incredible power and finds some security in that, but he dooms himself to his own bad ending.

[@zacharybosley1935]

Yo DJ Shart is crazy work. I'm using that later for something

[@adleo88]

@@zacharybosley1935 "ignis" from Firebolt would go hard as a base drop. She doesn't even need a fog machine

[@noreehix5714]

A few things about Gortash to provide some context. 1. The Gondians evented the Steel Watch, they were originally supposed to be suits to make their jobs more efficient. Gortash and Balthazar altered them into what we see in the game. 2. When you talk to Karlach's friend Fitz she said, "After you left things got dark fast...I think you were the only thing that kept him honest." He respected Karlach and even cared for her in his own way, but his ambitions were bigger. He also tells Fitz she went to Neverwinter which implies to me that he was conflicted. 3. I find it Ironic that it was Gortash who discovered how to alter the tadpoles unknowingly using Durge's ruined brain from Balthazar's notes. In a journal Balthazar remarks on his intelligence and his respect for him.

[@sweetyft]

Thank you for the fantastic insight. I feel dumb to ask but who is Fitz (where do we meet that NPC)?

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@sweetyft Fitz is the blacksmith in the middle city who Karlach calls out to. there's a fun dialogue between them where Fitz asks if the PC is Karlach's significant other, and the results vary based on whether or not you are romancing her.

[@OakandIV]

Always fun to hear your takes. Gortash should have been a much bigger presence in the game considering his links to Karlach & Durge. But, we have to work with what made it into the game. I like the idea of his adult devotion to being the tyrant as an outgrowth of his childhood trauma, and it’s a great call that his parents punishment is to publicly behave like the people he’d always wished they’d been. I can imagine Gortash trauma bonding with Durge. Both of them victims in different ways of powerful abusers (Raphael & Bhaal), both of them devoted on the surface at least to appeasing their current abusers (Bane & Bhaal) as a path to an illusion of freedom that would never become real. And then the Bhaalspawn died and was reborn, with a chance at redemption, while Gortash remained trapped in his cycle of abuse.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

I have a headcanon that Gortash is who he is because after all he went through, he believes everyone is evil, and the best way to survive is to also be evil. In my headcanon, he discarded Karlach because he doesn’t like people who “pretend” to be good. They feel unsafe to him. The Dark Urge became someone he’s close to because The Dark Urge never pretends to be good. You know what you get with them, so that feels safe to Gortash.

[@mlj3347]

I really like Gortash for the reasons others dislike him - his understated, sort of background role really hides how much work and effort he put into the plot compared to the other chosen. I also like that he’s more mysterious and you need to infer a lot of things about his character and past. It makes him a little more enigmatic. Also, if we use all of the Chosen of the Dead Three and look at their alignments (neutral, chaotic, lawful) I always think lawful characters sort of have this interesting spin to them. I wish we had more Durgetash information to explore in evil routes!

[@thevoidcritter]

I feel like Gortash's parents didn't necessarily want to have kids but Gortash was either an accident or they had him out of a sense of obligation. They weren't particularly prepared or interested with caring for what a kid actually needs so him being a normal kid was "needy". Maybe he was kinda annoying as a kid but not unusually so

[@sephikong8323]

Gortash is imo the best of the Chosen, he just does not have enough time to shine but if he were given as much screen time as Ketheric, I think more people would recognize how much of a banger he actually is as a villain. He's one of the greatest casualties of the aimlessness of Act 3

[@elektraeriseros]

So on the "needy child" bit. I feel like this description has absolutely nothing to do with Gortash himself and is more a reflection of his parents (specifically, his mother). His mother sounds like an old school neglectful mother who didnt think through what raising a small child actually entails. Could baby Enver have been neurodivergent or disabled? Sure. But the word "needy" reminds me of some moms ive heard growing up who call their child that when their children ask them to play with them, want to do anything but go down for a nap, or get hungry: all basic kid things. And basic parental responsibilities, on top of that. I think his parents were just negligent. The fact that his parents sold him kinda cements that for me. What kind of parent sells their kid for their own adult fuck ups? People who never cared about their kid to begin with.

[@baileypohl198]

Yeah, I would say Gortash’s parents were definitely assholes, I just ran into them in the game and in the same part that they say he’s needy they also say that he’s always been a monster which is definitely the biggest red flag for me since it doesn’t sound like they really cared about him or loved him at all as a child

[@glassinanoven]

BABE WAKE UP POCKET LEAVES UPLOADED ANOTHER BG3 CHARACTER ANALYSIS VIDEO!!

[@seregons]

why is Raphael going around buying children. what is this, one direction?

[@Idontgiveaduck]

As someone who lives with hEDS, the chronic pain is just so relatable, Durge is my favorite way to play BG3. I love my trash man so much.

[@nina9565]

Gortash often justifies his actions as something in service of what he believes to be the greater good, but I think that pain he suffered is what caused him to be that way in the first place. A pretty common coping mechanism for people who go through traumatic experiences is to believe that those painful events happened for a reason, and I think that is the case for Gortash; He was trying to use everything he learned to gain power in order to give meaning to the pain he went through. If this is the reason Gortash is the way he is, it explains why he feels no remorse in selling Karlach, since that also made her stronger; though of course, he would still be a hypocrite for believing that and still hating his parents for doing the same thing he did.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

Pretty much. You sometimes hear abusive parents claim they’re trying to “toughen you up” by abusing you. Being sold to Raphael made Gortash the “stronger” man he is today. He probably thought Karlach being so kind was showing weakness, so he thought selling her to Zariel would make her “stronger.”

[@Honeymoon4400]

I love Enver Gortash he is so babygurl(canon)

[@sweetyft]

It is canon

[@semidavasconcelos7836]

Gortash clearly should have been the main protagonist's most important adversary, whether as Dark Urge or Tav. Even though, in terms of arc closing, Orin works better as the final boss for Durge, the connection that they and Gortash had (and still have in a way of speaking) is crucial for the Durge to choose who they ultimately wants to be. It's very sad that the final confrontation against Gortash is much less satisfying, tho. I don't know, maybe Larian really ran out of time to handle things more appropriately? Bg3 is a huge game for sure and if it weren't for the need to meet deadlines, it would have been even bigger and better than it already is.

[@fortheloveofexy]

I suspect the final confrontation with him was originally planned to be much grander. It's likely we were originally supposed to fight him somewhere in the Upper City, but this changed when the Upper City was mostly cut due to time constraints.

[@semidavasconcelos7836]

@@fortheloveofexy I would give anything to have seen the stories that Larian wove for the High City. We lost a lot, a lot indeed in these cuts that the game suffered.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

Yep, that’s pretty much exactly what happens. They were going to do an Upper City, but it got scrapped along with a lot of Karlach’s story.

[@zanderford4179]

only a little into the video but "our favorite devil that we know" was so funny to me for some reason like yep that's his biggest accomplishment, we know him.

[@haimaconspectusalumni]

Watching this during my open heart surgery

[@jeremygilbert7989]

Welcome to the Zipper club, friend!

[@Inuyashalovek]

I remember reading someone headcannoning that the whole plot was also a way to get back at Raphael. His aesthetics, becoming the ‘ArchDuke’, and changing everyone into a /soulless/ being was very intriguing. I will need to find it again.

[@jeremygilbert7989]

EDS is a brutal disease. As someone who suffers from it's cousin, Marfan Syndrome, I could sympathize. Doesn't make him any less of a creepy douche though. To paraphrase Chris Rock I'm not saying he should've done it... but I understand.

[@Encefaloworm]

Wait. Gortash uses finger splints? ONE OF US ONE OF US, EDS ZEBRAS WERE YOU AT! This really shouldn't have made me as happy as it did, but hey it may be the only representation we ever get :¨)

[@Idontgiveaduck]

Nah I was the same, from my first playthrough I was like "finger splints, cane...the way he walks...bro has hEDS..."

[@MarcellLakatos-h1q]

Waiting for the Unpacking Raphael video

[@sweetyft]

Yes

[@voyagersmarch8776]

Harleep already did that...this pretty girl only need to upload it as shorts

[@chaos9059]

Gortash reminds me of Dick Dastardly. Another mustache twirling villain.

[@Sofia-ge6wm]

Ever since I found out about Gortash and the Dark Urge I wanna go back and redo my DU run since I want to learn more into that and also cuz I kinda speed through lots of the game

[@WilliamTravisFocker]

Came here after beating Gortash in my HM run, reading the lore notes in his area and realizing I never really paid much attention to the details--great video. Couple things come to mind: 1. The terrorism subplot with the exploding toys ultimately leads back to Bane and is exactly the kind of "cartoonishly evil" thing a power hungry cult in a video game would do--spread chaos to try and get their man (Gortash) put in power. I'm not sure why target the refugees--maybe because security in Rivington is nowhere near as good as it is inside the city itself, and there's less chance of someone uncovering the plot and more plausible deniability. 2. "I'm going to become so powerful nobody will be able to hurt me again" might be a sympathetic reading of Gortash's storyline. Obviously when you throw Bane and all the rest in there it's not enough to get him out of villain status. But it's something a lot of people can relate to, even those who haven't experienced abuse or neglect as kids. If you've ever wanted "fuck you money" because of a terrible job situation you've felt a tiny bit of it. Before I watched this I sorta thought of him as your typical mustache twirling villain and was bewildered by some of the clues pointing in another direction like "detect thoughts" showing his power sharing proposal was an honest one. It doesn't help that he looks the part and Jason Isaacs's past villain roles often haven't exactly been subtle ones (Col Tavington, Malfoy, Dracula). Knowing more I see there's an element of self preservation or having the freedom to define where your boundaries are, or as you say never be a victim again. Obviously he's taken those reasonable motivations and turned it to unreasonable ends but the character is more complex than he first appears for sure.

[@TheOwlQueen]

The exploding toys is another thing done in the name of the Absolute as a way to scare people into giving him power, just like all of the bhaalist murders.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

The whole thing with the refugees was to sow discord. You already know this, but let me explain why. The people are suffering because Gortash is strategically giving more aid to the refugees than his actual people. This causes the people to blame the refugees for their suffering. Gortash plants the bombs in the toys, the deaths of the children cause outrage from the refugees, so the refugees start fighting the people. The people react like “I told you the refugees are no good” and this sparks infighting between the refugees and the city folk. With the city divided and not united, they’re too busy to notice the Elder Brain situation. When the Elder Brain comes, they’re too weak to resist it, so they become thralls as well. Gortash then uses this Absolute army to conquer other regions, and eventually the entire world. This part would’ve worked if the adventuring party didn’t kill Ketheric and Orin didn’t kill the Dark Urge.

[@hannahlachney5948]

Sat for daddy tash

[@molliethomas2585]

Now we need a video on the drow twins

[@Madeleinewith3Es]

Seconded! The more I'm learning about Drow culture the more their bond and where they are is amazing. A brother-sister pair that close is so rare with how males are treated, and they seem fairly happy and secure where they are, at least for Drow, and I wish the game let us do more for them just to be nice.

[@RandomWitch1617]

Great video! Just some thoughts: I think his parents were just horrible monsters who didn't want him. They imply he was evil as a child to justify their hatred for him (much like evil people do). People often project their feelings toward others. Example, if you view yourself as ugly, you view others as ugly to hide the fact that you can't stand to look at yourself. People who aren't insecure never have to put others down in order to feel good about themselves. Some people want to be parents, but they underestimate the stress that comes with raising a child. He wasn't 'needy' even with his implied physical disability (which was an interesting part of the video). He was just a normal child. If the disability is true, then perhaps the reason why he was tinkering with machines so much was because he wanted to try to find a way to not be such a 'nuisance' to his parents by finding a way for his bones to not break so easily. Hence, making their lives easier. We also know they never wanted him because even after he came back home, the mother literally admits to wanting to slam the door in his face. That shows a lack of remorse. Why wouldn't they be happy to have their son be back? Why not apologize for what they did to him? Raphael showing up with that deal was the perfect way to get rid of him AND their debt. Devils are good at finding others who are desperate. On that side note, I don't understand why Raphael never took Gortash back? He was right down the street! Kinda weird. Anyway, I actually think his backstory is tragic and heartbreaking. His ending even more so. He never had a chance with that kind of upbringing. No wonder he turned out the way he did. When you're taught at a young age that your life doesn't matter, why would you value others' lives? His parents taught him that people were meant to be used. They never taught him empathy or compassion. Then to be thrown into the House of Hope and abused on a daily basis? Yeah, that would mess anyone up. As for the toys as bombs part, I also thought it was kinda random. Perhaps there are two reasons for it. 1) Gortash detests weakness. He had everyone at his ceremony killed after he had no more use for them, his guard stating, "My Lord has no use for babble" or words to that effect. So maybe he had no use for the refugees, and wanted to get rid of them? And also viewed them as 'weak'? 2) It's a part of the causing chaos in Baldur's Gate. If those bombs blew up and killed innocents, people would think it was the Absolute that did it, and look up to Gortash for safety.

[@blakcharazard213]

BEST SUNDAY EVER. NEW POCKET LEAVES VIDEO LET’S GOOOOOO!!!! 😁

[@bugmancer]

LFG!!!!1

[@Cassapphic]

Gortash is my favourite villain in the game, he makes such a good first impression, when I got to the end of act 2 I felt "finally some compelling and excitingly hateable villains!" (Ketheric also has a good introduction but he does not have the same stage prescence gortash has when he isn't pulling an axe out of his neck) and every scene with him until the confrontation feels like whilst he may not have as much physical power, he ahs so much control over the city and everything everywhere he goes that it feels as if he has al the cards in hand, the city feels hostile to be near every time you see a steel watcher. As opposed to orin who while having tragic layers buried deep, her initial impression is a very tropey type of character that I'm kinda tired of so i just never have the same interest in her.

[@PocketLeaves]

You're so right about the city feeling hostile! The Steel Watch were SO SCARY on my first couple of runs.

[@christopherjustice6411]

I’ve learned never to trust a guy named Enver. Enver Pasha, Enver Hoxha, Enver Gortash. All monsters.

[@bugmancer]

the dynamic between gortash and raphael would be so tasty if only they gave us more of it 🥲

[@Roxinette]

Thanks for the analysis ❤ by the way the reward Gortash got in exchange for Karlach might be infernal iron which Gortash used to create his steel watcher. It’s just a theory but a hint that might indicate this is at the end of wrym’s crossing, there is some steel watchers and if Karlach is in your party, they will recognize her as one of their own but as an “outdated model” and we know that Karlach’ s heart requires infernal iron to work. (Sorry if my way to explain myself is not great english is not my first language 😅)

[@Aelonwy]

Spoilers: I don't see cartoonish evil from Gortash. I see the methodical, sometimes maniacal plans within plans that some sociopaths display. Sure they can be sincere - in the moment. They'll partner with you over something as long as you are useful to their ultimate goals but the moment you can't be used you will be discarded. People are either tools or hurdles or to them. See all the in-game notes to self and others Gortash has of his plans to have so and so kidnapped, tortured, blackmailed, straight up murdered, or intimidated to further his aims. I'm not just speaking of the gnomes, though that is bad enough, but many of his notes also speak of his methods to manipulate or coerce support from the dukes. He has the nobles murdered after his coronation because he no longer needs them. He creates the Steelwatch because tadpolling (sp?) innocent people and using their brains to puppet golems make better, easier to control tools than the mechanized suits the Gondians originally created. This isn't cartoonish, this is the sort of extreme evil you get from a power hungry person that has no concept of empathy or that other people have any self whatsoever. The whole refugee aspect smacks of current politics and rising fascism where you give people an "other" to fear, and then make them afraid the "other" is going to take limited resources away from their own self interests and then convince them to give up autonomy for "security." But what they really need is security from him and his plans.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

Gortash is my least favorite Big Bad out of the Chosen of the Dead Three. I know it's because I love Karlach and hate what he did to her and I'm projecting some past trauma onto him. That said, he is also a fascist and I do NOT use that term lightly!

[@Geabril]

Of course he's a fascist, he serves Bane.

[@zacharybosley1935]

oh yeah, The Tyrant lives up to his name

[@voyagersmarch8776]

Whats wrong with being a fascist

[@mercedeswalt6621]

He’s a fascist?! What did he do?

[@austinkersey2445]

From what I've read, heard, and seen of the guy I think he just ultimately wanted security. He had enough of being used and wanted power so that he couldn't be hurt again. It's implied in dialogue with Karlach's old friend Fitz that she "kept him honest", because as she put it "after you left, it got real dark." There was mutual respect there, but my best guess is that Gortash's goals and ambitions superceded any friendship or respect he had for Karlach. Zariel probably gave him what he needed for his mechanical army. He also seemed to genuinely believe that if he was able to control the Absolute, then it would lead to a peaceful society where conflict was nonexistent and crime would be a nonissue. A little more than a bit tyrannical, but at least his intentions are more noble than Orin or Ketheric's. His methods and end goal are just as bad though.

[@PizzaPartyTime]

Man, it took me 200 hours to finish the game. I thought I had found everything there was to find, and now it turns out I missed sooo much Gortash lore. I didn't even know you could talk to his parents. I thought Gortash was just a surprisingly easy to beat villain who I found confusingly and shamefully attractive.

[@RandomWitch1617]

Yeah I missed his lore too until I Googled what the point of his parents were. When I played, I only read the father's mind, which said was completely blank. I failed the check on the mother's and didn't retry because I figured it would've said the same thing. Nope! You gotta get the skill check on reading the mother's mind to get the lore. You can also use Speak with the Dead on them too.

[@Deezei09]

Yesss thank u for this gift🙏

[@angelajuarez7200]

Really love your vid essays on BG3! Could you do one about tadpoles too? There hasn't been any discussion on how these things in everyone's head creates a form of intimacy because every character can let you in or vice versa. It makes one wonder if the characters would miss that connection after the adventure is over.

[@Mailed-Knight]

He seems rather pitiful. On a completely unrelated note, I just found out my favorite Disney Movie 'Black Hole' is in public domain. Do with that what you will.

[@Feetlover637]

GUIN MENTIONED THAT’S MY OOMF

[@drakearvidsson6936]

I love gortash what are you talking about?He’s hard to love bah i want to marry him

[@carriecrouse3540]

Thank you for the fun videos! I would absolutely love it if you made a unpacking Raphael video. Any plans to do so in the future?

[@RobertBuzz0420]

I will say one thing the dark urge was not as good as everyone says

[@PocketLeaves]

What do you mean by that? Not as good at their job as everyone says? Because I can see that being true!

[@entertheunknown3554]

Im still wondering what exactly the brain did to kill Gortash

[@austinkersey2445]

My guess is that it told the tadpole within his brain to kill itself.

[@mrl2126]

He didnt tank it

[@TheOwlQueen]

​@@austinkersey2445 he doesn't have a tadpole

[@Hugo-qf1wb]

He is just a silly guy 😊

[@channel45853]

Have you ever thought about doing any of these for other fantasy role playing games, like Dragon Age?

[@PocketLeaves]

I'm not sure. I've honestly not even played Dragon Age yet.

[@voyagersmarch8776]

​@@PocketLeavesplease do Cullen Alistair Solas

[@voyagersmarch8776]

​@@PocketLeavesyou're missing out its alot of fun

[@xskippysticky5092]

To me hes just pushover who tried to survive and succeeded for most part. Untill the bg3 took place.... Allthough i think he overestimates himself a lot and he was destined for downfall no matter what

[@jenniferanderson7010]

How about a Dark Urge deep dive? I know Durge is .... controversial.

[@PocketLeaves]

I really want to make a Durge video! I've just been waiting on patch 7 to drop, so I can incorporate the new endings, and any other changes that may be made to the Dark Urge route.

[@Jules_Diplopia]

Blaming his (clearly unpleasant) parents, is no excuse for Gortash. Many of us have unpleasant family backgrounds, but don't turn out to be monsters. Gortash is just a nasty, devious, selfish, manipulator. Very, very little to redeem him.

[@PocketLeaves]

No one said it was an excuse. Just an explanation. I'm not trying to redeem him

[@artificerprime4154]

@@PocketLeaves That and none of us were sold to a literal devil in Hell. Not everyone is a Karlach, and Karlach at least had loving parents to provide a better moral foundation before she was taken to Hell.

[@zacharybosley1935]

I am curious how many aspects of someone's life can be manufactured before they truly lose any sense of agency. Raised by a Literal Devil to worship The God Of Tyrants seems like a pretty quick way to grow up into a cruel, scheming, charismatic bastard. Could Karlach Alone turn a soul like that towards redemption?

[@voyagersmarch8776]

He's sexy so its ok