unpacking insane tumblr drama: that time someone robbed a grave

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[@audreyvv]

Saying "I thought this was a safe space" in regards to admitting to stealing bones from a graveyard is SENDING ME

[@molly-katebritton9414]

It's her saying if you keep harassing me for stealing human bones and using them in curses I will steal your teeth and use them in curses for me

[@moonie6368]

FR LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN???

[@Maria_745]

Miss girl really thought sending bones through the federally run postal service would be completely fine as long as she's not profiting off of it lol

[@lesbiangoddess290]

I wasnt even here for this era but oh my god!

[@Maria_745]

@@lesbiangoddess290 I was on tumblr and have no recollection of this lol so many wild stories went viral on there

[@ross6789]

Imagine spotting your neighbour sign for a fedex package and immediately their house gets swarmed by cops.

[@sarahm.5602]

As someone who used to work at a cemetery and saw washed up bones all the time I never once had the urge to start a bone trafficking business

[@user-jp5zj7hk6m]

hahaaa this made me laugh

[@SaplingTarot]

Obviously you just don’t have that girlboss grindset…

[@ciaociara]

@@SaplingTarotgirl boss, gatekeep, grave rob 💅🏻

[@amytrieger8283]

@@ciaociarafunniest thing I’ve read in a long time

[@convoswithkara]

obsessed with how carley repeatedly says happy halloween even though it's literally december next week. fall rights forever!!!!!!!

[@moonie6368]

Same, it's so camp

[@IsSarahPi]

Putting a CW on your story about you personally robbing graves is such a tumblr energy.

[@hoennfanboy]

This story hits too close to home for me literally. I'm from new orleans and I ended up becoming friends with that woman's ex roommate a couple years after. None of them in the house had any idea this was going on obviously and he was freaked out asf when he noticed seemingly random police surveillance and then finally the house got swatted. Its very shameful to do this kind of thing to the dead. Anyone who practices voodoo knows you respect the dead and this kind of violation is beyond disgraceful & asking to be haunted by malevolent spirits.

[@Hh-ib8tj]

THIS IS CRAZY

[@user-jp5zj7hk6m]

absolutely on the last part. the first part has me extra freaked, i hate to imagine how they must have felt figuring out how frickin weird the roommate was

[@thegreenmachine90]

I for one think it’s WILD that she claimed to be indigenous/POC to try and rationalize what she’s doing (No indigenous or voodoo practice would EVER include the use of human bones without the person’s consent). But she couldn’t even spell the word “indigenous” and then it turns out she’s white. I hope this person eventually found some kind of treatment or help for whatever they clearly had going on.

[@InsertUsernameHere-co1uv]

For me the red flag was just "indigenous" magic not listing any tribe or specific Indigenous religion.... idk,,,

[@0livE3S]

​@@InsertUsernameHere-co1uv Me too!! She kept saying "indigenous," but it wasn't specific. I kept asking myself, "What exactly community are you referring to?" There are thousands of indigenous religions, and many of them don't involve the use of human bones. So, I feel it's inadequate to generalize like that. Just say what religions you practice. But, of course, she is white, knows little to nothing about this, and was just trying to clean her name. I was so mad!!

[@InsertUsernameHere-co1uv]

@@0livE3S exactly!! Like there are indigenous ppl from 6/7 of the continents on this earth, the way she just assumes that 1) American Indigenous people are somehow the only indigenous people and that 2) All American Indigenous practices are the same and would be totally fine with her using random unconsenting people's bones is... quite wild to me

[@0livE3S]

@@InsertUsernameHere-co1uv yes!!! and using this as an excuse for robbing people's bones? is gross tbh

[@InsertUsernameHere-co1uv]

@@0livE3S the way she thought those cultures would also be fine with... grave robbing?? Mmmmmm idk man, that's not a good look here

[@savannah7758]

the way her response was just being like "well other ppl in Louisiana grave rob in ways that are WORSE" like girl grave robbing is STILL bad even if its how you do it T_T

[@user-jp5zj7hk6m]

lmao that makes me laugh bc graverobbing is NOT common here. she is living in her own world

[@annushankar3032]

I thought grave robbing was stealing jewelry from dead bodies/graves. Which made it wild when I saw the sponsor

[@uncarley]

god that would be so clever of me

[@_-_julie_-_7834]

The fact that this wasn’t even the only graverobbing scandal on tumblr 🙃

[@amymiles5346]

Surprised that wasnt mentioned lmaooo

[@melissabennett4328]

What??? Whats the other one???

[@Cometstarlight]

I’m sorry-what?!

[@TheRatKingsTherapist]

Please specify😭😭

[@joshuab9226]

This is the most New Orleans story ever Magic + human remains + classism + racism + internecine strife It’s really got it all

[@Walkthewalkkk]

+ flooding

[@MageKiton]

@@WalkthewalkkkAll we're missing is Alcohol and Jazz

[@maryseptihet]

Someone write a book out of this so Carley’s channel goes FULL CIRCLE (just like the circle of life - and death) 🪦⚰️ 🦴 ✨

[@liviklisis1783]

the fact that she’s like yeah.. i took human bones BUT AT LEAST I DIDNT DIG FOR THEM

[@Erinselysion]

I was going to say, please cover the HIVliving fiasco, but honestly I would love if you covered every well known tumblr scandal, they're always so surreal and out of control.

[@dancincoolkid]

OMG especially sixpenceee, and the whole "my family has an indentured servant" fiasco. I was quite young at the time, but I remember that post spreading like WILD FIRE.

[@Erinselysion]

@@dancincoolkid Genuinely what other website would have drama like this 💀

[@akratz001]

Strange Aeons did an hour long video about HIVliving and its great

[@jacforswear18]

@@dancincoolkidLOL, I only ever tangentially got into that one but it was WILD. Spent a lot of time reading hot takes about that with my friends instead of studying for exams 😂

[@alyssaziobro]

@@dancincoolkid I was hoping someone would bring up sixpenceee lmao I remember that like it was yesterday

[@grace-4072]

the thing that gets me abt this story is just like … u practice witchcraft and you don’t think stealing someones fkn bones is a one way ticket to getting CURSED (let alone super unethical obviously)

[@weebamcentire28]

With regards to the concrete question: these kind of above ground graves often belong to poor or impoverished families who do not have the funds to fully entomb them. This woman was stealing the bones of poor people who are quite possibly black due to our nation's history of marginalizing the African American community and keeping them in poverty via systemic racism. I cannot speak to the viability of laying concrete over the graves, but even if such a thing were a viable solution, there might not be funding to do so.

[@lisahoshowsky4251]

Probably not the funds to do it. Most modern below ground graves also have concrete crypts, it’s rarely raw soil unless it’s a natural burial which is just becoming legal. It’s why people can be exhumed years later in crime investigations and their caskets are still in one piece and in relatively good shape, it wasn’t surrounded by soil there’s a concrete grave liner and concrete cap under the soil.

[@heyitskaydee9199]

Funeral director here. You can’t cover the whole graveyard in concrete because the ground will shift and move under it, especially in a place like New Orleans because of the “bowl” effect which causes more water in the ground. Any flooding of the ground will cause shifting under the concrete and make the concrete crack or break.

[@weebamcentire28]

@@heyitskaydee9199 Thank you for explaining!

[@alexnicole6806]

This is the history we all need

[@uncarley]

truly the only important history

[@jennac7115]

@@uncarley brb have to purge everything I know about the French Revolution to make room in my brain for the important lore

[@abbybroe2590]

my history teacher literally told me today to watch more historic movies/videos so i think he will be very pleased with this

[@EmmaCat15]

This is a great topic for American thanksgiving

[@uncarley]

nooo you are correct

[@lesbiangoddess290]

I love how topical it is.

[@sav_asanas]

The “I love witches. There’s an occult store by my house” killed me. The satire equivalent of “I have friends who are __”. Incredible

[@julieannelovesbooks]

It’s giving ‘I’m not homophobic, my brothers best friends uncle is gay’ in the best way possible 😂😂😂

[@scliffbartoni9771]

Not the way I saw the title and thought "which time" 💀 ohhh Tumblr

[@uncarley]

literally we should sue tumblr for exposing us to such chaos

[@_vexilee]

ALSO YOU CANT JUST TEASE THE TUMBLR HAMILTON FANDOM VIDEO AND NOT DELIVER 🥺 As someone who has been consistently on tumblr since 2011, so many chaotic nightmares have occurred that i think you would enjoy covering

[@uncarley]

OKAY SHES COMING

[@teresagreen-e]

the fact that miss girlie repeatedly used the wrong spelling of altar to threaten people with witchy curses absolutely sends me

[@LilyWebster-se2wh]

“no i didn’t grave rob THOSE bones, i’m not a monster” epic

[@linasayshush]

So I'm Brazilian and over here there are some ancient indigenous cemeteries where people were buried right in the earth. Yes there are literally human bones scattered around them. They're usually in the middle of the woods. Animals dig them up and you do have to like, step over someone's tibia when visiting these places. Also a lot of people perform spells in them but I don't think anyone takes the bones because it's REALLY bad juju. You can usually just find offerings and such.

[@fredkrissman6527]

Carley swept right past a number of incredibly creative spellings in that looooooong tumblr response post... I personally was most impressed by "cemataties"!

[@jupiterliam7961]

carley saying that the internet is the most awful place online was so true. she was so real for that.

[@colorcraze138]

The most horrifying part of this Halloween special is finding out this person moved to Florida cause good god is that state scarier than any place in Louisiana.

[@user-jp5zj7hk6m]

im glad she left our state, we can b crazy but her crazy is not suited for here at all

[@ladygaygay94]

I love that you have to specify which insane Tumblr drama you’re talking about it because that website is chalk full of them

[@katukin]

WAIT I thought it was 'chock full'???!

[@thetotaleclipse84]

​@@katukin it is

[@messertk]

If i could take an introduction to Tumblr History class with uncarley as the prof i would so fast

[@JeanHarlowe]

😅😊😅😮

[@mairin2946]

while i would absolutely agree that the toe thing is entirely batshit, it was at least super consensual and both of them were really into it and it was super deep to the person who sent their toe

[@evren5642]

Same here. The idea of using human bones or other body parts in religious practice (or to make art) is a little out there but I think still above board as long as they’ve been given with (informed!) consent (I say informed bc there was another recent scandal of someone using old medically donated bones to make art pieces; those people consented to their bones being used for SCIENCE, right, not for art, so I think it was still questionable for the artist to use them. Do we have to start telling people who donate their bodies “hey, just so you know, we might sell your bones eventually and they could end up on some instagram dollmaker’s account covered in rhinestones”? Bc that’s. wild)

[@MageKiton]

@@evren5642That's way too specific of an example, who hurt you??? What Happened???

[@jacforswear18]

@@MageKitonthey literally told you what happened lol.

[@jacforswear18]

I personally love bone/teeth stuff… but yes the CONSENSUAL bone and teeth stuff. People love to sell their teeth lol.

[@ashleighcalvert8937]

I remember the Cole Sprouse “Social Experiment” all the time but not what it was about so please revisit this iconic time in history

[@wearyatlas]

absolutely fascinated by the fact that you read CW are Care Warning, i always assumed it was Content Warning

[@leora_in_london]

Sameeeeee

[@emersonertz9144]

it does mean content warning

[@MicheleKlinger]

I am OBSESSED with how bizarre tumblr drama and lore actually was. I was in the fangirl corner of tumblr and occasionally would get whiffs of the crazy drama. Please make as many videos as you can think of about all the insanity.

[@vsgreenie1]

"here's the thing about this internet, it's literally the most awful place online" so true bestie.

[@kailane9987]

unlocking a memory i really really thought i would never remember … those were WEIRD times

[@uncarley]

so sorry for reminding you bestie

[@Fangirlfit]

The least surprising thing about this story is that they moved to Florida.

[@alexnicole6806]

She said happy thanksgiving and I am THANKFUL 🤎

[@uncarley]

i am always thankful for unhinged tumblr moments

[@intothemystic5223]

I love how they're going on and on about "don't shame them" while shaming Wiccans for no reason.

[@ilse1]

her response is SO wild, as if this all makes it any better 😭 oh yeah im stealing human remains from the poor BUT im not making profit so its okay

[@KwieKata]

Tf how could calling someone out for robbing a grave be offensive in any form??

[@francescakyanda9182]

The superior older cousin serving gossip realness vibes is STRONG with this one 😂

[@carolineh167]

my local facebook groups original name was "town-name and area shares news, business, and information" and the town over has "what's happening in town-name" and a rival group called "what's REALLY happening in town-name" local facebook groups are so amazingly terrible

[@boboblueblue2]

Did you also hear about the tumblr person who had a child slave and defended it? Absolutely Wild! And Disgusting!

[@jazzycat8917]

Sixpencee did not have a child slave, her extended family in Asia did. She did defend it by saying it was cultural to them and the kid was better off with work and shelter than being in poverty, but then walked that back and said she personally didn't agree when people came for her throat. Not all all defending Sixpencee as a person, but lets get facts correct.

[@christinethesupreme5235]

THIS IS MY ROMAN EMPIRE i vividly remember following this on tumblr the day it happened and i feel like no one else knows about it

[@CMThota]

I love how you're wishing us a Happy Halloween, bestie we are well into November

[@ten-ze1pq]

Wild how righteous that user was being about taking and using random human bones and it being fine just because they didn’t dig them up, yet still absolutely no regard or respect for the actual dead lol

[@milaces1323]

I don't know if i'm ready to revisit Tumblr drama, because it's part of my unresolved traumas, but i'll do it for you Carley 😂😂😂😂

[@TrinityMaexo]

nothing will ever be able to fully encapsulate how tumbr was back then. I love the exclusivity that comes with because its such a genuine "you had to be there" thing. i love that its lore. all those awful but fun years being a teen on tumblr and seeing things no one should have to see when they're young and impressionable - are finally paying off lmao.

[@mikchimin]

Please please PLEASE do more Tumblr history videos!! They're so good, and you did such a good job with them. Tumblr history videos are some of my favorites to watch. As someone who was never on Tumblr, I look at that site in awe like a child watching zoo animals. I love it

[@VomitSlaughterDoll]

Anytime I think about Tumblr that scene from euphoria where the mom goes “OH she needs a fuçking exorciSm” plays in my head.

[@sabrinamoore6184]

FYI there’s a whole Reddit community about this case where they argue if its technically “robbing” or “archaeology” 😂😂😂

[@TheCCress]

Carly talking about witchcraft and looking like Draco is the ~happy halloween~ vibes that my Thanksgiving Meal needed ☆

[@keyarrma]

i love watching youtubers do recaps of stuff i actually saw go down on tumblr in 2015 😭

[@CourtneyRC]

sometimes i wish i was part of tumblr at the time, the chaos seems fun, then it's things like this that make me glad i wasn't

[@sammanthaafreyy]

i love that you said happy halloween like 6 times but its literally thanksgiving today 😭

[@Kasamira]

Normally I’d say clickbait turns me off videos but I have every confidence (or fear) that this is real

[@linasayshush]

Caitlyn Doughty (Ask a Mortician) made a really interesting video about New Orleans cemeteries. If you're interested in this story, take a look at her video.

[@gr8gatsby-426]

Please tell me you watch Strange Aeons, or that you would watch her lmaoo. Her Tumblr deep dives are great, I'd love to see your perspective on all the tumblr insanity too!

[@annaflaherty3771]

i love all of the references to halloween in this video when it is literally thanksgiving day

[@notlittlevamp]

i've been sick with this stomach flu the whole day but this video just restored my health, thank you carley

[@glxxxm]

After Thanksgiving trauma, this is the pallet cleanser I needed.

[@GraceNotGurce]

Strange Aeons has a great video about the HIV Living/Hamilton scandal- Just in case anyone was curious!

[@mirmirmr]

i know you’re canadian but happy thanksgiving anyway carley ily 💗 your videos are what i watch when i paint btw ;)

[@uncarley]

omg that is amazing! happy thanksgiving even though mines in october

[@hidiewahre]

i hope you make more ~spooky~ videos but like every month of the year & you just say "happy halloween"

[@livelollobotomy]

literally how SWEET of you to upload this today for your american audience because i for one, am thankful for this video(and your channel and you but you get the point)

[@arikray7030]

I would love for her to clarify what indigenous culture her witchcraft is emulating because ugh, the way it’s suggested is she doesn’t know what culture, OR she’s practicing a multitude simultaneously is pretty messed up and culturally appropriative and being a poc herself doesn’t exonerate her of that

[@arikray7030]

ALSO not like I’m an expert, but when repatriation of bodies to their relatives is such a nuanced and painful topic for indigenous communities in North America, I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who supports using some unknown person’s bones

[@jazzycat8917]

THIS. This was always the sticking point for me. They never said where or what culture the practices belonged to, and in fact a couple actual Indigenous practictioners who used bones came out and said "thats not how ANY of this works, you don't fcking steal random strangers remains". So i highkey think they were either faking culture, or maybe had the ancestry but were very far removed and did not do any actual research into it at all.

[@thegreenmachine90]

Look at her mugshot from this. She’s very clearly white. Which adds another layer to the messed-up-ness of it all.

[@leelee1286]

“Finders keepers” is not legally binding :/ still counts as theft

[@PoppilyPoppy]

It's wild how ethics and responsibility are nonexistent for a lot people in the witch/metaphysical community. Like the amount of people who defend curses, or the idea of them if you don't believe in them, for petty shit is unreal. (You can also tell who's full of shit that way if you believe in it and looking for advice, because their inconsistency is right out in the open)

[@_vexilee]

Nooo be honest, Im sure she robbed way more than ONE grave 💀

[@uncarley]

nauur

[@kale1873]

so glad i found your channel. tumblr was so fucking insane one of my favs is ‘Buy my silence’

[@elizabethashley42]

I wasn't even in any kind of bone collecting community on Tumblr back in the day and yet I still a) knew they existed and b) watched this whole callout drama go down. Absolutely classic tumblr shit.

[@maudquilici7309]

I have just had the longest day ever and your video feels like a gift

[@B-ct5rf]

“They’re stealing bones but I don’t wanna misgender someone” LMAO PLS

[@vxnillabean8158]

tumblr was an interesting time… (LOVE THE CHANNEL CARLY)

[@uncarley]

this is so kind!!

[@viamayre2741]

the funniest thing is that callout culture has not died at all on tumblr in 2015. it persists up until now and the drama varies so wildly from community to community

[@fara2321]

Thank you for educating us ♡

[@grace-4072]

omg carley post this means i can have a little bath and light my little candles and have a self care evninf

[@uncarley]

omg ENJOY

[@jillsarah7356]

"Happy Halloween b!ch yessss" is honestly the energy I was looking for today. Why? Bc November is still fall and fall is HALLOWEEN BBs!!!!!

[@angieng6091]

the queen is back 🎉

[@uncarley]

i have returned from my influenza haze

[@HGR555]

Never been this early to videos. LOVE your stuff though and love that you're doing longer videos in general

[@eilidhm]

i survived tumblr and all i got was this uncarly video

[@graciemccleary6669]

Someone from the New Orleans area here! The only answer I have for you is no, we're not ok

[@starlavasil9330]

ur content is sooo good like who thinks of this stuff! def do more tumblr history stuff

[@michaelkennedy2888]

I live in New Orleans! Some graves are covered with concrete instead of a whole crypt, but like OP said so people can't even afford that. Dying is expensive.

[@rhilavender]

it’s been 7 months babe i need the hamilton drama video 😭

[@rohemgiovanna]

Loved the video as always, keep shining girlie. Kisses from Brazil 🇧🇷🩷

[@RedCanyonWolf]

I feel like practicing indigenous magic and then selling that indigenous magic (even giving the ability to practice it since she didn’t profit off it) to non indigenous folk might negate the whole argument of you can’t call me out because it’s indigenous.

[@law11school11girly]

You’re so entertaining dolly ❤❤❤

[@uncarley]

thank you 🥰

[@soniya419]

I chose watching this over the new episode of Southern Charm. You don't even understand how much I have to like your content for me to do that.

[@nayaraestrella7630]

you just gotta love tumblr and its history. thank you for the amazing video!

[@lilxamryn]

this thanksgiving i’m thankful for new uncarley 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@emmamendes5241]

I have now TAUGHT the cat eared matching tail kiddo and they’re the best/most unhinged. Playing “cat” at recess having their friends walk them 😂

[@DimpleD23]

The content I didn't know I needed

[@falucinogena]

This is my favorite video about tumblr on the internet right now

[@jackiesoals8896]

If you covered the ground in concrete there’s no where for the water to drain and you just created a swimming pool full of dead bodies

[@bunnyfrosting1744]

You make me laugh out loud. I appreciate your content a lot ❤

[@bluecolamusic]

I remember this and cannot wait to hear you get into it. Didn’t know you had a podcast about the titanic that sounds SO up my alley cannot wait to listen u are a star !! Also, you HAVE touched a raw human bone- your teeth :-)

[@almartin7]

Perfect vid to watch as I raid the fridge for thanksgiving leftovers

[@johnsalvucci7922]

Oh I LOVE this would be thrilled to see your take on the human pet guy or operation smut drop

[@beloafed]

Strange Aeons made an extremely in-depth video on the hivliving scandal you mentioned (and lots and lots of other legends-- her channel is essentially dedicated to deep dives into tumblr history). While I like the direction your channel is taking and I think you should pursue what you want to talk about, you should be aware there's a popular channel that already covered many tumblr stories in excruciating detail with receipts and even interviews with the tumblr users involved.

[@naj2276]

I had to pass on watching that video because I was good friends with hivliving IRL before she was exposed for her secret & very deranged internet life. Took 2 years of therapy before I was able to talk about it without getting angry 😭😭

[@platedlizard]

@@naj2276oh wow that sucks

[@uncarley]

thanks for bringing this to my attention! ill make sure to check this out so i dont step into someone else's lane!

[@jazzycat8917]

@@naj2276 Are you the one she stole the name "Naj" from, given that its in your username?

[@naj2276]

@@jazzycat8917 I thought that for a long time but eventually Ursula (the one who uncovered this mess and helped make the video exposing it) sent me receipts showing hivliving had made that alter ego before we even met. It’s just an extremely weird coincidence that gave me the ick!! hivliving did claim to be half lebanese in real life (I’m 100% lebanese) and when me and mutual friends compared stories we realized that she (going off pronouns she used IRL) couldn’t get her lineage straight. She did ingratiate herself in BIPOC communities which is how I imagine she was able to pull off her scheme for as long as she did