UNPACKING JUST A BIT OF HORRID HENRY'S TRAUMA

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[@AthenaPOfficial]

HENRY AND HIS FAMILY AT THERAPY (ending song) ON SPOTIFY NOW spotify.link/EPDh5tM8EJb

[@Penpal88900]

Lmao that was a great song

[@AthenaPOfficial]

@@Penpal88900 Thanks so much!! I had such a blast making it

[@super_saiyan_Arthur_morgan]

He's Dr phil 🗣🔥🥶

[@kaidencarey5603]

Didn't Spotify get ruined by the update?

[@dexterstudios2275]

@AthenaPOfficial Football is called football and not soccer

[@whatalsaid]

I want Horrid Henry’s parents and Caillou’s parents to do a swap. They keep calling Henry Horrid but wait til Caillou is LITERALLY ripping out Peter’s hair with his bare hands.

[@ororion212]

No matter how awful Henry's parents are,no one deserves Caillou,Henry may be horrid but Caillou is Catastrophic

[@noratsuki42]

As someone who goes by Peter online, my immediate reaction upon reading this was, "I sure hope he doesn't?!" (with quite a lot of confusion and fear, especially since I did not know Peter was a character yet)

[@ethanthomsen3973]

Crappy Caillou

[@diiambee3944]

​@@noratsuki42ĺq

[@bigmaxethanschannel1428]

​@@ororion212 "Catastrophoc Caillou"

[@Tommedian]

Henry: is a little distracted from his homework Henry’s mom: you’ll never achieve your dreams

[@emaanfaisal8145]

That sounds like my mom. 😂

[@This_awesomeguy64]

Goofy ahhh American spelling

[@moxluvsdisventurecamp]

@@This_awesomeguy64huh

[@Snekelord12]

Why did the scene pop up on the video when I read this comment?...

[@corpsenymph4644]

Parents when a child is upset over something that seems menial: You’re overreacting Also parents:

[@starletnight2849]

Another thing in the books I noticed; in the story about Henry and Peter as babies, it describes baby Henry as “screaming in the morning, screaming in the evening, and soiling his nappy.”(from what I can remember) Like dude, that’s just a normal fvckin baby 💀 I’d be more concerned if my newborn child appeared to not be pooping like Peter 😅

[@baguette3285]

And I’ve always heard that a crying baby is a breathing baby and you want to be concerned about one who’s gone a while without crying 😅

[@Nakia11798]

I was a good baby but a horrid little kid. Either way, babies are supposed to cry and poop! Maybe I was a bad kid from being ignored as a baby.

[@katterinalajeunesse6207]

My parents mentioned my older sister and I being very different babies, she would scream if mom wasn't holding her and it could only be mom holding her, no dad or grammy. I was a chill baby, hardly ever cried. My mom was also on antidepressants throughout her pregnancy with me and the whole time I was breastfeeding, and once I started teething I was grinding my teeth out of anxiety. When my little siblings were born, the 3rd was easier than the 4th, he learned how to cry on command at 3, and was mom's favorite for years, probably still is. The 4th was an easy baby, you could put her in a laundry basket and she'd just sleep. She isn't an easy kid though. She's got anxiety worse than me.

[@leroyjenkins1249]

It gets worse: "Crybabies" are indeed a kind of baby. Aka babies that scream much more than usual -to the point they only stop when exhausted. A lot of -esp. new parents - take this personal. Being overwhelmed, they might blame the kid to do it "on purpose". In reality: Every baby can be a crybaby. Many babies turn when they're sick -others are just more sensible or ND. Aka they are overwhelmed by something and hence scream. Obv. it's not intentional. But with all the ND coding of Henry, it feels like Henry's parents did exactly that. And now they're just writing him off as "bratty", "wants attention" etc.

[@justaperson4656]

Context for Henry marrying Margret being brought up so much! In the uk we have this really toxic culture of "well if they're bullying you, it's because they have a crush on you!", and because of that, margret and henry get paired together in schoolwork as a way of the adults basically shipping the kids

[@elysiabarr425]

I live in the USA and we have the same ‘if someone is mean to you, they must like you’. I’ve always hated it. It tells someone that they should take abuse.

[@jenneacubero1036]

​@@elysiabarr425 Yeah...our shows didn't help either with the likes of "Jimmy Neutron"...

[@andrewsanusi8462]

⁠@@jenneacubero1036Even The Loud House did the same thing in one of their episodes too

[@Nakia11798]

​@jenneacubero1036 At least they BOTH picked on each other, it wasn't a bully and a victim.

[@copycat0284]

Same in Poland. Honestly then I think about it my preschool teachers were really toxic in a lot ways

[@Sophiapuppybarks]

Childhood is when you are idolizing Peter, but maturity is when you realize that the parents are unfair to both Henry and Peter in opposite extremes

[@obsessednoodle]

I loved Henry and hated Peter. I don't know what was going inside my brain to laugh at some of the stuff he did and get annoyed at Peter for just existing even though I was in a similar situation as him. It's weird as hell ik.

[@lhumyaki]

a true Golden Child and Black Sheep situation that is a sign of a perfectly healthy family

[@shipperina2213]

@@obsessednoodle some people just cope with trauma by resenting people/characters that are similar to the traits they unconsciously hate about themselves.

[@TamWam_]

@@obsessednoodle when i was a kid i used to not like his parents, when they kept saying no i was like "thats unfair"

[@TamWam_]

@@shipperina2213 lowk this made smth click in my head. i read a lot of articles about shadow cognitive functions, i never _really_ got it but i saw smth like this in each of the articles. ty for explaining 😭😭

[@jayc7559]

Show!Henry screams ADHD kid surrounded by incompetent and straight-up malicious adults to me and I feel for him so bad.

[@skootergirl22]

Coded

[@jocelynsandoval9385]

This kid needs to see a psychologist (love the profile pic btw!)

[@skootergirl22]

@jocelynsandoval9385 calm down they're just drawings

[@leezard7696]

Ignore that other person, they are clearly 13

[@Nakia11798]

He's definitely neurodivergent-coded. I relate to the show version of him. I behaved most of the time, but got in trouble for my emotions being too big, responding to bullying, and things other kids did, on top of my own misbehaving.

[@roymackenzie-jy4lr]

Fun fact: physical punishment was banned in Britain in 1989, the books were written in the 1990s, and Miss Battle-Axe is around 50, it makes a lot of sense

[@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeni]

Why physical punishment was banned?

[@roymackenzie-jy4lr]

@@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeni it was probably considered cruel

[@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeni]

@@roymackenzie-jy4lr why ._.?

[@jack_stone]

​@@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeniBecause it is. When my dad was a kid in the 60s he told me how his teacher was a horrible woman who'd beat her students with a thick stick.

[@ghoultooth]

@@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeniBecause you shouldn’t hit kids…? Tf

[@abyssmal_23]

the parents being rlly nice followed by fits of anger/disgust/whatever for henry is actually very accurate to many child abuse cases. most parents don't know/understand that they are abusive while the kids are forever questioning if they are/not so they don't tell anyone they're being abused and nothing gets done abt it. also the earthquake joke is bc earthquakes occur on fault lines where tectonic plates meet/shift against each other, very cool joke imo

[@Dragonmongamer]

I feel like that might be going on with my parents especially my mom.

[@nyanSynxPHOENIX]

​@@DragonmongamerI'm sorry to hear that. I obviously don't know anything about your situation, but I hope you know that how your parents act is not your fault, whether good or bad.

[@ghoultooth]

@@DragonmongamerIf you have a feeling that it might, try and reach out to a trusted adult. A family member you trust 100% (though I would suggest the other options first as they might support your parents instead), someone at school or even online via a hotline. Those people can help you become more sure on how you are being treated.

[@kiera6326]

The idea that “each of your siblings had different parents from you” hits so hard when you think about it

[@cellojerms]

why is most british children’s literature just about horrific child abuse? 😭

[@kayakat1869]

I think that's all British literature tbh

[@cutecakes2228]

Dickens desensitised us to it

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

I think the German literature is even worse, especially with Krampus and the Strewwelpeter stories.

[@jenneacubero1036]

Now that you've mentioned it, they kinda do; "Lord Of The Flies", "The Midnight Folk", "Narnia", "Harry Potter", almost all of Dahl's works...the only exceptions I can think of ilare Tolkien, "Belfry Witches", "Winnie The Pooh" (then again, I haven't read the book) and maybe "Worst Witch"...Granted Cackle’s is safer than Hogwarts but the things Mildred went through...

[@skootergirl22]

It's weird that Twitter would even call out cartoon anime girls while ignoring actual Cp

[@AnarCat]

Ah, "Child Abuse: the series".

[@JustEpic_Yt]

This is so true 😭

[@OfficialSpeedBoost]

Fr

[@compassrose1466]

It’s like the reverse of Caillou! 😭

[@HartoGTM]

@@compassrose1466y e s

[@pepperpiggykiller]

@@compassrose1466 he actually has a reason to be a "menace"

[@Kumaclaws]

But is Perfect Peter actually a goody two-shoes, or does he performatively act “well behaved” as a fawn response towards his abusive family so they don’t treat him like Horrid Henry?

[@mmecharlotte]

A 3rd possibility is he is emotionally manipulating them. I did that with my parents. They weren't abusive, but I enjoyed getting their trust, money, and treats from them, but still did whatever I wanted behind their back. I lived a double life. I grew out of it when guilt caught up to me. My parents don't know that my good girl thing was just an act, I think it would break their heart if they found out.

[@mittag983]

​@@mmecharlotteSame with my brother he always acted like me and my siblings were dirty and lied we had early done sexual stuff, while he when they were away hooked up a lot and also groomed minors... 😒

[@karakattankurai]

​@@mittag983 he WHAT?!?

[@Button_BluesGacha-nv4vd]

The horrid Henry movie is basically a dyslexic child finally writing a word correctly.

[@downspiral]

Depending on if Henry was canonically dyslexic

[@Isabelle-qq2yu]

The fact that Henry’s mom actually wanted him to DISAPPEAR in one of the episodes, even Margaret (his own ENEMY) was angry at Henry’s mom for wanting him to disappear Edit: I do not know what episode it’s from, I saw it either in a compilation or a video about how horrible Henry’s parents are. One of the replies said it came from Peter’s birthday episode tho

[@queenbee3561]

Hey, Margaret might hate his guts, but at least she didn’t want him to disappear

[@coolboyyo654]

It's one thing for one kid to say it to another but when an adult, their own mother no less, says it that's a whole different ball game

[@hempcats]

what is life without a little petty rivalry anyway

[@kaine8911]

Do you rember the episode name?

[@Isabelle-qq2yu]

@@kaine8911 no, I mainly saw it in either a compilation or a video about how terrible Henry’s parents are (at least Dad’s improved in later seasons and it’s implied that as a child, he was similar to Henry, hopefully Henry can break the abuse cycle tho)

[@karenwantsmanager]

Horrid henry? More like henry needs expensive therepy

[@ajstudios9210]

Both him and Peter.

[@larasbigmac77]

@@ajstudios9210so true like why do they want they to put such high expectations to a fucking 6 year old

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@@larasbigmac77 I think they only wanted on kid

[@GabeKis-fz8tn]

In the future he's gonna pay for his therapy from the songs he will sell

[@marlonmontelhiggins8570]

_Harrowed Henry,_ maybe?

[@Eyeball44]

I always thought that Henry’s parents were absolutely terrible. The episode where a teacher says they’re too strict and should allow Henry to eat some sweets was weirdly validating to young me.

[@kwowka]

Henry is every autistic kid with a pda profile… so anxious that they prefer consistent rejection to genuine unpredictability. Like. Tell me I’m wrong.

[@just-baldi]

no

[@mverus9460]

No, he’s definitely ADHD though, and maybe has ODD like a lot of people with ADHD

[@heythisanimalcantalk]

I think he's auDhD

[@kwowka]

@@heythisanimalcantalk oh yeah I’m audhd with pda traits adhd just honestly passed my mind

[@kwowka]

@@mverus9460 ODD is in most cases mislabeled pathological demand avoidance. The behaviour of him finding comfort in predictable cruelty is extremely pda

[@senor3556]

I remember a tweet that described the difference between show and book Henry like: TV: “I just want to hang out with my friends and play pranks!” Book: “Okay Ralph now hit the second tower” And the whole time I can’t help but think about it when listening to her talk

[@silverdrag0n_]

BRO 💀

[@DiemChauTranthi-sw4oi]

WHY ARE YOU REFERENCING 9/11 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@elizabethtudorstuff]

I can't stop laughing at this

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

@@DiemChauTranthi-sw4oi It's an easy target for jokes.

[@Ia_nenavishy_pelmeni]

Same

[@phantomboba]

this reminded me that when my sibling was a toddler they couldn’t pronounce the word horrid so they called this show “whore henry” 💀💀

[@moon4236]

That's the edgy reboot

[@Notesghcl]

More *​@@moon4236

[@Nakia11798]

A sad continuation of Henry's life of trying to feel loved

[@Nakia11798]

A sad continuation of Henry's life of trying to feel loved.

[@IchigoShinagami]

Henry after ending-up at Hazbin Hotel.

[@Tommedian]

Henry and Peter in the books: straight up bullying Henry and Peter in the show: iconic duo

[@HA-nj1qt]

Henry sold his brother as a slave in the show.

[@genericname2747]

@@HA-nj1qt thats just how siblings are

[@This_awesomeguy64]

When you only got brothers,the rivalry reaches WW3 level

[@setsu-chon]

"A lonely child is what you're gonna be when I sell you." - Arthur

[@Gamer_Dylan_6]

Greg Heffley and Henry are a perfect example of the difference between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil. Greg tries to game the system to get what he wants, Henry just does whatever he can to express his endless rage.

[@Cloud_hair]

69

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Greg's a sociopath, Henry is emotionally abused

[@muffnman980]

​@@MASTEROFEVILI feel bad for Henry to some extent....even as a kid I thought Greg was a shithead

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

@@muffnman980 Me too

[@muffnman980]

@@MASTEROFEVIL I find it reassuring that A guy with a username like "master of evil" felt the same way about Greg as I did

[@raelogan]

My initial exposure to this series was that clip where the parents said "This is your fault, Henry!" over the bad traffic when the kid wasn't even in the car

[@meh4294]

And the cereal clip too ,LIKE GIVE HIM THE CEREAL

[@egg6144]

Mine is recently when someone posted of Reddit asking for fan fiction of Horrid Henry’s dad

[@axaturdoor7553]

I saw the movie in school a long time ago but never had the chance to finish it. I completely forgot it existed until I found the dvd one day.

[@sparklingsora]

they "this is all your fault, jafar"ed him!??!?!

[@meh4294]

@@egg6144 wha-

[@StarryPuppeteer]

hi, hello, british person here (we ACTUALLY exist) WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS HALLOWE'EN??

[@your_average_nerd6861]

As another fellow britishperson I also have no clue what Hallowe'en is

[@LeapIntoAction]

Hi! I am not british but I do have an English degree & my best guess is that “-e’en” is a contraction of evening (with “Halloween” being derived from “All Hallows Eve”)! But I am also not all that sure haha

[@rasberryrain926]

As another, another fellow british person I also have no clue what a Hallowe'en is, I am surprised I never noticed it being spelled like that as a kid.

[@sorenstarlander]

@@LeapIntoAction lmao I can hear the contraction in a really strong British accent, thanks 😂

[@gothnerd887]

I think it's a way to appease both Christians and Pagans. Christians celebrate Halloween, Pagans celebrate Sam'hain (pronounced sah-when)

[@VannahLemons]

I took a class in highacool called "psych in media" and we basically used the DSM to diagnose characters in movies and TV with respective disorders. We diagnosed Bart Simpson with ADHD (that's literally a plot point but it's the best example everyone knows and it was our warmup character) and it was actually pretty cool. We talked as a class about the criteria we observed and how it all qualifies, we debated comorbidity and symptom overlap, it was honestly a lot of fun. Your opening lines reminded me of that class lol

[@AthenaPOfficial]

Omg I want to take that class so bad!!!! That sounds really fun

[@larasbigmac77]

Both Henry and Peter need therapy like it’s obvious how abusive they are to Henry and how much they put high expectations to Peter like he‘s only 6 years old

[@_ThatCandyGirl_]

Literally Horrid Henry’s parents are emotionally abusive😭

[@llewelynshingler2173]

Is there a Figuarive version of that phrase?

[@_ThatCandyGirl_]

@@llewelynshingler2173 Wdym?

[@llewelynshingler2173]

@@_ThatCandyGirl_ You Said "Literally" so there must logically be a Non-Literal version

[@_ThatCandyGirl_]

@@llewelynshingler2173 Yeah I’m referring to when it’s played as like a joke in like satire shows his parents acting like this isn’t endearing it’s just annoying.

[@alterniastuck]

my parents core

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

You might think Peter's better off, but he's in for a tragically short life of anxiety and imposter syndrome. They're an abusive family, and an abuser's favorite is a dangerous thing to be. The places where tectonic plates overlap are called fault lines. The plates rubbing against each other is what causes earthquakes.

[@egghamsil]

right. i think this was adressed in the dr. phil segment, if you look closely

[@ville__]

MY CONTENT IS WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER THAN COURTREEZY

[@LolaHaze]

Exactly.. the golden child and the scapegoat are both being unfairly treated, and not to mention their parents are just abusers in general

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

@@ville__ Nope, you're just an oversized fetus.

[@morigaena333]

@@ville__mf this ain’t even courtreezy

[@panflute6109]

fun fact: those game show hosts are beloved kids comedy duo Dick and Dom. They are, honest to god, some of the most unhinged people to ever grace British screens. Dick and Dom in da Bungalow, if you’re willing to cover kids game shows, has some INSANE lore and recurring characters and trying to reckon with the universe it takes place in I think would be hysterical. Though it may only be a lore lite since I think a lot of the episodes are lost media :(((

[@skootergirl22]

I was maybe in my teens or 20s when in da bungalow was airing

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Absolute legends. Speaking of, LOD&D: also fuckin' great.

[@skootergirl22]

@RAFMnBgaming oh yea, that show still full of gross out

[@Sh12pen]

I loved the Diddy dick and dom series

[@invertobsessed2082]

There was this one episode where Peter was excited that he found a cool bug and called his mum about it and when she came into the backyard she immediately said DONT BE HORRID HENRY. and then talked sadly to “perfect” Peter.

[@itslubia]

"Baby's first ragebait" I can't- 😭😭💀

[@luna_nova_09]

Timestamp 9:49

[@demondays333]

that's dora the explorer

[@GreenSnail-go5gp]

Why do they gotta emphasize peters ‘perfection’ compared to Henry’s? It just makes him lash out more!

[@ogudemichael]

Exactly!

[@anonymouslucario285]

That's the point

[@francisleary9427]

I always thought that was just how Henry thought of those people, and not actual "NAMES"

[@luna_nova_09]

Yeah, comparing siblings to each other doesn’t end well. They can phrase it better. For example, instead of saying, “Why can’t you listen like Peter?” say “Thank you, Peter, for listening.” Complimenting a kid for doing the right thing can encourage/remind another kid to do the same. It actually works; we use it at my summer camp to make kids drink more water. Edit: corrected grammar because it was bothering me

[@Pinkywinkykinky]

this happened to my own sibling (they called me the 'angel' that I decided against them calling me that to not make them feel worse)

[@SebastianEatsCoats]

I grew up with both the Horrid Henry TV show, the movie and the books, and even as an 8 year old I realised "This kids parents suck"

[@DMapollogies]

38:10 This is actually a reference to Banksy's girl with balloon. Banksy is a anonymous famous British graffiti artist. Girl with Balloon is probably one of his most famous works, a painting of Girl with Balloons was being auction off and as soon as it was sold the frame started shredding it. Banksy has admitted it was his doing. I probably explained that poorly, i definitely recommend anyone reading this comment to research about Banksy.

[@skootergirl22]

Theories say that Banksy is multiple people or a woman

[@Dawg347]

@@skootergirl22oh yes people and woman

[@mittag983]

​@@skootergirl22So a woman isn't part of people? You're not very smart...

[@whatalsaid]

Horrid Henry is like Craig of the Creek but if he had an unhealthy home life.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

I mean, at least one of the characters has a shitty home life.

[@DatMLG_Gamer6592]

...and the latter is like the former but if he was black and had a much better home life.

[@gabs-mg6ks]

😊

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Horrid Henry is like Dennis the Menace. Both of them are as cunning as foxes, but the latter is more witty and the former is bratty.

[@warcatfurever101writeroffanfic]

@@poweroffriendship2.0Dennis the menace! Oh the one show my entire family bonded over. (Because of generational trauma haha)

[@soulslvr9562]

Ain't it kinda odd how the parents LITERALLY have their kids named PERFECT Peter and HORRID Henry.... it's like the parents WANTED to hate him

[@luna_nova_09]

I always thought Henry just gave the nicknames? Unless this is shown later in the video

[@soulslvr9562]

@@luna_nova_09 if that's the case then how come he called himself horrible

[@luna_nova_09]

@@soulslvr9562because everyone calls him horrible. He doesn’t know how else to describe himself, maybe??

[@shayshay8650]

It's like they were manifesting on the kid being a terror.

[@kevinle1083]

@@luna_nova_09 Either his parents called him horrid and since everyone else around him calls him horrid(he’s a literal demon child with some level of mental instability), he maybe addressed himself as horrid and maybe addressed others based on their general mood. Margaret is well, moody, hence the name “Moody Margaret.”

[@shacharlem4424]

Fun fact, in Hebrew localizations of the franchise, peter is called mel. This is because the Hebrew word for perfect is "mooshlam".

[@wiktoriafrompoland2453]

In Polish he is called Damianek because perfect is doskonały.

[@ZyrofomeAnimations]

​@@wiktoriafrompoland2453and henry is called koszmarny karolek!

[@shacharlem4424]

She should explore the little princess cartoon. That world is nuts. The king and queen wear normal attire and their defense people are essentially men children. And when the princess was asked what she wanted to be when she'll grow up, the whole tone literally shifted for a moment (like don't hug me I'm scared).

[@skootergirl22]

I read the books as a child back in the 90s

[@pr3ttytacky]

OMG I REMEMBER THAT SHOW! It was a really long time ago, but I remember the princess's stuffed animal was named Gilbert and that the maid and the soldier guy (?) were in love.

[@Same_Local.Insomnic]

Just a thought on why Henry thought he’d marry Margret. We all know older generations tend to trash talk and complain about their spouses (Not all, just a generalization). And perhaps Henry has been surrounded by this type of marital relationship growing up (Possibly from his own parents in private). So he’s been lead to believe that whoever your worst enemy is (For heteronormative reasons in this case your worst enemy of the opposite gender) that is the person you have to marry when you grow up. Just a thought 🤷

[@luna_nova_09]

That is actually in character. He also hates weddings; I remember an episode where he said “When I’m king, no one will be allowed to be married.” Maybe not exactly, but it was something like that.

[@scopeawl]

I saw it as the weird (not sure if it's just a Brit thing but as a Brit then yeah) if you know a girl, even if you're being bullied by them, you're expected to 'like' them. Also as a kid I thought that everyone was expected to get married to someone, and I also remember thinking about having to marry one of the boys from school.

[@Same_Local.Insomnic]

@@scopeawl it’s not just a Brit thing, if a boy is picking on a girl everyone tells the girl “oh it’s just cause he likes you”, which is honestly disgusting and promotes the ideal of unhealthy and abusive relationships

[@ghoultooth]

No… not quite. It’s just because they pick on each other so they “like each other”. We have a thing in Britain where if a boy is picking on a girl, it’s because he has a crush on her. It’s not a good thing, but it’s definitely a thing

[@DR3ADER1]

@@scopeawl The entire plot of My Family is dedicated to this British Concept. It even has episodes where the idiot dad character and the smart mum character have time to themselves and they figure out that the reason why they're so miserable is because their entire purpose is to complain about something as it gives them substance to their lives because they're too caught up in their own misery to appreciate anything positive. That's UK dynamics for you. It's why when the original pitch for My Family was feted around multiple US networks (because the creator of the show, Fred Barron, is an American, just like Francesca Simon, the author of Horrid Henry), the US executives passed on it because it was "too nihilistic" for American audiences.

[@ampersketch]

The true lesson of Horrid Henry is don't grow up to be like Henry and Peter's parents.

[@ijlayugan4149]

First WhatAlSaid and now you too! Drawfee and Athena P enjoyers woah!

[@ampersketch]

@@ijlayugan4149 Been watching since the WordGirl episode!

[@ampersketch]

Been watching since the Wordgirl episode!

[@downspiral]

It’s weird at least from my memory I knew Henry was a little shit as a kid but enjoyed him being an anti-hero

[@undeadprincess5726]

Book Henry is chaotic evil, series Henry is chaotic neutral, and movie henry is chaotic good

[@crazydane6663]

Great video! Some notes though: - While Battle-Axe thinks about hitting Henry with a ruler, their mum actually hits both Henry and Peter in one of the Christmas stories. - The movie is canon to the show, to some extent. There's a season 4 episode called "Movie Moments" where Henry and Al react to it, and Henry explains some missing scenes, presenting it as more of a documentary. Truly bizarre

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*Horrid Henry* 🤝 *Dennis the Menace* Both troublemaking British kids who used their wits and mischiefs to wreak havoc towards everyone and everything surrounded them just for kicks.

[@ZimVader-0017]

I was about to mention that Henry reminded me of Dennis 😂

[@ajstudios9210]

Accurate.

[@purpleblastoise]

I trust Dennis the Menace more than Horrid Henry.

[@awkwardkookie7766]

Dennis the menace is British?? Since when?? 💀

[@jakobe856]

@@awkwardkookie7766they’re were two Dennis the Menaces. One in the U.K. And the other in the U.S. so they’re talking about the the UK version

[@kayakat1869]

I would like to know why there are there is so much British media about children being absolute gremlins and their parents being abusive/neglectful? Like, its genuinely concerning at this point.

[@lucyandecember2843]

What other media is there?🤔

[@gothnerd887]

We like things a bit shit also does Tracy Beaker count even though she doesn't have parents?

[@rezza_lynsaii]

You wanna watch Tracy Beaker

[@justaperson4656]

​@@gothnerd887 I mean, she does have the... It's not called an orphanage in Tracy beaker, is it? She's got the dorm runner???

[@jenneacubero1036]

To be fair, the kid from "The Belfry Witches" started out as a troublemaker with a stressed out single mom. But both mellowed out throughout the series.

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

Big problem with constantly giving attention to misbehaving children is that well behaved children like Peter are treated as if they can handle themselves

[@teeth789]

I’m late to the video but I went to a talk by Francesca Simon, the author, pre-pandemic and she talked briefly about the Horrid Henry books. She doesn’t really like them, she always wanted to be a YA author, but her agent got her to write a children’s story, she wrote Horrid Henry the rest is history. She said she appreciates the money they’ve made her, but she can’t get much else published nowadays. I 100% recommend her only YA book, The Monstrous Child.

[@Elizabatz]

“Rude Ralph, who he’s friends with in every universe.” Is so true, like even in my little AU where the kids are in high school (where the pranks are a bit higher on the scale), RR and HH are still *besties* . I just love how he always has someone he can rely on in literally any life. Edit; WHY DO I HAVE SO MANY LIKES!? Thank you? Oh and I’m sorry to disappoint but I haven’t written anything, and I hate writing so I most likely won’t ever.

[@godscomplex13]

Unironically i would love to read if you have any fanfics about hs AU

[@justaperson4656]

Inform us of your au!

[@TamWam_]

get yourself a bestie who are ride or die like these two

[@Takejiro24]

"Do you think we're best friends in every universe?" "I sure hope so."

[@skootergirl22]

And yet they're shipped together

[@magicalgirllaurie]

I ultimately think the big difference between the books and the show is the message. In the show, they want you to sympathise with Henry, so he’s not as bad, while in the books he’s an absolute demon because he’s meant to be teaching kids how not to act. At least that’s what I remember from when I was a kid anyway.

[@ashthepotato3172]

😂 I remember reading a Horrid Henry book and it was that time when Henry wanted to go to this fast food restaurant but he had to eat his greens to earn it. So he decides to just start messing up his plate, secretly sneaking food away from his plate and even mushing peas under his knife to hide them! As a kid I always wanted to do that; I thought it was so clever 😂😂

[@tiffany-chan1235]

As a British person who did in fact read a lot of the books as a kid (It was actually a pretty popular Kids book series in the UK.) and yeah, the books and TV show have very different takes on Henry, Book Henry is an absolute menace.

[@Paidnotspaid420]

They made the babysitter story into an episode as well and lemme tell you if you think she was bad in the book- my god. It gets so bad Henry hides with Peter in a closet and he calls the cops to tell them theres a monster in the house. They show up, the babysitter talks to them until they go away, the parents come home to her picking Henry up by his shirt collar while making the same threats as in the book. It’s the only time Henrys parents were actually decent to him.

[@lucasmarble2572]

Athena's general hatred of anything British is just too funny, because it's literally just the way they talk and spell things that gets on her nerves. I mean, obviously it's a joke, but it's funny that this is the second time to happen in a row.

[@rosegolden8959]

"If I had a nickel for every time an Athena hated some aspect of the British specimen...I'd have two nickels..."

[@trellyv8826]

Which isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@Corgipon]

I think all these British slander jokes are a response to the jokes that people in the UK like to sling at Americans. It’s a whole slander joke war.

[@Isabelle-qq2yu]

Alphablocks has Z pronounced as “zed”

[@kirbyleggington7205]

@@Corgipon I wouldn't exactly call them people but other than that I agree /lhj

[@PalisadePeryton]

I always found Henry and Peter's friendship really sweet. I watched the show when I was a kid, and I'd always feel so happy when they teamed up

[@luna_nova_09]

Well, sweet when Henry wasn’t picking on Peter. But brothers do that anyway, so 😂 Edit: ok, I just got to 12:38. That is sweet.

[@coolboyyo654]

I feel like once they grow up and are out of the house they'd probably stop fighting as much because their parents horrible emotional abuse isn't constantly weighing down on their psyche

[@lucyandecember2843]

Reminds me of tom and jerry team ups lol

[@skootergirl22]

They're shipped they're shipped

[@Salvage5681]

@@skootergirl22 huh what

[@trylynarie3327]

30:16 sorry but when your own child’s arch nemesis looks at you shocked you know you’re a bad parent

[@afterlife8095]

the show is basically anti-bluey

[@winterdew650]

Peter is the Golden Child to Henry's scapegoat

[@raquelleleahman525]

Peter is literally Henry’s punching bag

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

@@raquelleleahman525Maybe because he’s upset Peter gets better treatment

[@LolaHaze]

​@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012 but still 😭 neither of them should have to get hurt because their idiot parents don't know how to raise children

[@user-rq3en1zn1c]

@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012 Still never okay

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

500th like

[@avixenk]

"This is the happiest he's been in ANY medium" Jesus Christ 😭

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

Tbf the Horrid Henry movie is the easiest medium to digest, it's more fun and wholesome than legitimately abusive, also aesthetically it's very nice, and the movie has became a beacon of nostalgia for me, since I was 9 when I first saw it

[@atlaslovesfrogs]

I grew up with the Horrid Henry tv show (I'm not British, very American) and being an older child there were times where I could relate to Henry. Being neglected, ignored, etc. As I've grown up I know a huge difference between abuse and discipline now. As a child, what I thought was discipline, was abuse. I fully believe that Henry's parents were not only neglectful but refusing to get him help. He screams ADHD child or something around the lines of that, and without the proper help or education can affect how a child acts.

[@redRuxx]

1:52 as a British guy, I agree; what the shit is a “Hallowe’en”

[@whywouldyoudothat1346]

Horrid Henry really REALLY reminds me of how teacher’s classmates ect treated me before I was diagnosed with ADHD. So yeah, I think I know what’s really going on with Henry.

[@Nakia11798]

Yeah, it's a real shame, but I hope people seeing these sorts of comments think deeper about how we treat children.

[@user-ff5zm7ic4v]

Not every kid who misbehaves, and likes to be deviant is neurodivergent codded. most kids who act like menaces, are not neurodivergent. just misguided or brats.

[@BrightWulph]

The TV show, I feel like they coded Henry as though he's supposed to have undiagnosed ADHD and the parents are supposed to be at their "wits end" with the boy because they don't know what to do with him because he's undiagnosed/unmedicated. It doesn't excuse their behaviour, but it certainly explains some of it.

[@skootergirl22]

It would be good to have neurodivent rep, yet you could say that Dennis the menace also has adhd

[@kyoyameganebereznoff]

As a person with ADHD, I winced when his mom yelled at him for fidgeting.

[@BrightWulph]

@skootergirl22 I'd say Dennis could also have ADHD as well. Like sure, they're originally meant to be a warning to kids "This isn't how you should behave, and these are the consequences of behaving like a little turd" The shows are far more sympathetic.

[@systematicirony666]

​@@kyoyameganebereznoff I was undiagnosed autistic and got yelled at for fidgeting as a kid 😔

[@skootergirl22]

@BrightWulph which one the American version or the British version?

[@nintendompower]

dr phil segment was iconic "we'll send your child to a place where he'll get MORE trauma" yup thats dr phil alright lmao

[@TaraxaV]

I had ADHD and didn’t know while I was growing up. My house was very much like Henry’s with me being like Henry and my sibling as Peter. It was almost comforting to me to see that in a show and know it wasn’t just me dealing with that unfairness. I knew it was unfair growing up but i didn’t know why. And it didn’t seem like Henry knew why he acted out either.

[@slusshi.rides.]

This show was my childhood and i literally grew up IN the shows environment 😭 literally my comfort show though

[@skullmothstudios713]

Litterally same, and I shared a lot of Henry’s coping mechanisms

[@wegotthechoccies]

I'm with you bro 😢

[@meh4294]

Same

[@luna_nova_09]

Sending virtual hug! Or, if you don’t like hugs, a virtual, reassuring pat.

[@amethyst1062]

Take this 💰🪽🪽🧸🧸🧸🧸🍓🍓🍓🍓🎀🎀🎀🍫💶💷🎖️💷💷🎟️🇩🇪💆‍♀️🏆🐰🐰🐰🧠💴💷💎

[@fatcat1414]

If they went the route of Matilda where Henry was a troubled kid who got vengeance on the mean adults of his life, this show would've been awesome.

[@skootergirl22]

*Gets psychic powers from abuse*

[@LazyLucky]

Please I beg of you, do a video on Roy. It was such a weird show, the premise was basically this cartoon boy called Roy lived with his real human family as he try’s to fit in with everyone else. It also had a spin off of when Roy was little.

[@skootergirl22]

A child born as a drawing to actual humans

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

You just unlocked yet another childhood memory for me!

[@Sh12pen]

I remember that show!

[@Gbc666]

Oh my God I remember that show is that the one where he gets like a pimple and it becomes like suger and grease and all that to stay it was messed up

[@ferretferr5600]

The fact that Athena doesn’t know who the gameshow hosts are while describing them is so funny to me as a Brit 😂

[@jenneacubero1036]

*Me, An American:* Robbie Rotten's British cousins?

[@skootergirl22]

She's a yank in her eyes we all drink tea and have non stop rain

[@gothnerd887]

I seem to remember thinking that Henry's parents preferred Peter either because he's blonde or Henry's adopted.

[@kirinblirin8734]

If I had to guess they probably had Henry at a younger then they wanted to as their careers weren’t that far ahead. So the started externalising a lot of his normal age appropriate behaviours when he was younger and he acted out due to it.

[@skootergirl22]

The father has brown hair can't you see that?

[@Ruuehxbfiqkxn]

Henry’s parents believed in eugenics confirmed

[@skootergirl22]

@Ruuehxbfiqkxn notice that Simon has brown hair as well

[@minaminasstudios8492]

Horrid Henry’s parents make Buck Cluck look like a good parent.

[@downspiral]

No one can rival Buck Cluck.

[@gothnerd887]

28:05 Dad: Henry no! Henry: I didn’t do it! Dad: Sorry, force of habit. Peter no!

[@Wroredko]

the song's overlapping lines? "I'm doctor Phil"? the melodies? masterwork. This is a movie theater.

[@Nitro_Fueled]

All of the kids except for Henry, Peter and that kid who couldn’t stop crying look like middle aged adults in the books.

[@SuperHGB]

Weeping William

[@Nitro_Fueled]

@@SuperHGB ah that’s his name

[@Ceoofwenclair]

@@SuperHGB weeping William sounds like the name of a ghost 💀

[@GloomyFish]

moody Margaret especially

[@Ratchetzillastudios]

@@Ceoofwenclair it sounds like William Afton

[@Halloweenish]

30:17 Ever Margaret and Ralph were like “Girl, what the hell?”.

[@personofthetao]

Here are two examples of really fucked stories in the books. In horrid henry gets rich quick, he sets up a yard sale for his old toys because he's obsessed with money. Perfect peter comes along and Henry decides he wants to somehow get rid of peter as well. So, he proposes to peter that they sell him as a slave. He gets sold to moody Margaret, with henry even saying: "now, run along with your new owner." Later, when he gets yelled at by his parents to get him back, he's mad that he has to waste his money buying his brother back. Peter is being treated horribly by Margaret, doing her bidding and being yelled at on the way. Henry manipulates peter into giving him all his saved pocket money for Henry to get him out of the situation. The second story is horrid Henry's underpants, where there's a School trend of randomly pulling someone's trousers down. Henry gets given a gift by his rich aunt, who believes he's a girl, which is a pair of frilly pink underwear with hearts, bows and lace. After having a dream about having peter executed, he wakes up being late for school and is too sleepy to notice the underwear he picks out from the drawers, putting on the frilly pants. He finds out later in school, being sexist and therefore embarrassed about the idea of having his trousers pulled down and people seeing it. So, he takes peter into a bathroom stall and tries manipulating him into swapping pants with him, even mocking Peter's choice in underwear. Peter refuses, causing henry to scream at him to give him his pants. They interrupted though, and peter ran off. There's also a story where he gets a teacher to believe peter fell from a building and died, even having peter pretend to be dead on the ground below.

[@jessicaable5095]

Those terrifying game show hosts in the movie are played by Dick and Dom, who were a real kids show host duo. Dick and Dom's Bungalow was a trip, let me tell you! Unhinged is an excellent word for it.

[@noahsark.cosplay]

I feel so bad for Henry. Not just because of how his parents treat him but the fact he has to British on top of everything else

[@skootergirl22]

Good thing he's not American, he'll be the one who would be playing pump up kicks

[@lenovo9269]

As much as the accent is cute when they're kids, god knows I'll suffer hearing q british teen Henry

[@charmianernest1449]

Me too

[@discarded.Dishsoap]

I know, it's sad how he'll have to live with the fact he's a brit for the rest of his life

[@f0rkk]

I know this is supposed to be a "British people are scary" joke but I'll be honest it genuinely sucks over here. Especially now considering how badly the tories are messing up everything. I can see why my uncle moved to Spain 6 years ago lol

[@voryntheriolu2525]

Athena fighting for her life to get this video out, despite everything going wrong it still worked out. iconic.

[@Frickerdoodle]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

Henry and Peter actually have a sibling dynamic thats very common in the real world, that being the ADHD kid who is disproportionately punished and neglected by their parents, and the Autistic kid who is completely coddled and sheltered. Or at least thats how i read the series, either way both of these kids are gonna be VERY screwed up adults.

[@leritykay8911]

27:00 As a geologist, this is a joke about Fault lines. Essentialy, faults are large cracks in the earth, formed from tectonic movements, which is what causes earthquakes

[@w.i.t.c.h.aholic9315]

I think the earthquake joke is referencing fault lines. I recently finished watching Horrid Henry, and in one episode Peter says Henry is a dinosaur, and in the 1 hour special Linda says sometimes Henry is a dinosaur, so it sounds like he actually transforms. The animals also show a higher level of intelligence, like when Fluffy watches a show on the Ipad and Fang is seen reading a miniature comic book.

[@justaperson4656]

I wonder if the only differences between Henry's world and ours are the animals' intelligence and the possibility that everyone is just a shapeshifter

[@rionaka8835]

It’s this, the one earthquake has a different fault line and so it isn’t its fault (line) or fault (blame). Extreme dad joke energy.

[@w.i.t.c.h.aholic9315]

There is one episode where they get a new satnav and it seems to teleport them, and then the 1 hour special has the new invention from the episode go through the TV into his living room and then one of the characters talks to him and then they come through the TV into his living room, so who knows what the world is like.@@justaperson4656

[@PhantomFerret]

I remember a friend of mine and I watched this show on KZbin for the laughs, thinking it was going to an annoying kid's show that aired in the UK . . . We were so wrong. I can't tell you how we went from laughing at an innocent kid's show to basically screaming about how horrid (pun intended) Henry's parents are to him, how Peter is an annoying know-it-all who can't do anything wrong, and if Henry so much as sneezes, he gets yelled at for being horrid. 😂😂

[@fatimahanwaar306]

I love how Horrid Henry is voiced by Lizzie Waterworth Santos who also voices Bello from Jelly Jamm (which is a Spanish-British cartoon about colorful aliens making music and it's animated in a CGI style that is minimalistic but high quality they are from the same company that gave us Pocoyo)

[@Renni_Jay]

I feel like the episode with the letter from the rock star is actually like, *perfect.* Even abusive parents, neglectful *can* care and often do

[@AStupidUnknownUser]

Baby boy, baby: Tv show Henry Evil: Henry in the books

[@ElZucaritas12]

For what it’s worth know, margaret and henry disliked each other cos well yeah boy girl things at their age , but in the books they where actually friends and Margaret came over to his house a lot, so yeah, they sure disliked eachother but did care about eachother

[@kurii3166]

When I was a kid, people would always compare me to Horrid Henry and my sister to Perfect Peter, and now that we are older we both have diagnosed ASD and I also have diagnosed ADHD lol, what an eye opener. In a lot of ways that comparison was insanely accurate looking back, since my sister was the 'golden child' and I was the 'scapegoat'

[@freakxwithxaxpen]

i swear that bit with peter on henry's birthday reminds me of this one scene from red dwarf. "you would risk your life to save mine? is this the human concept of... Friendship?" " Kryten it's to early for this star trek crap"

[@Sharkkingstudios23]

If I had a nickel for every time Athena made a video about a British cartoon, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.

[@ajstudios9210]

I see what you did there.😊

[@prench]

is it weird though? her covering british cartoons?

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

If she can cover the lore of Shaun the Sheep, that would be three nickels.

[@sugarzblossom8168]

Is it? Are there not quite a few British Cartoons?

[@cjsantiago4035]

@@prenchit's because they're British.

[@KeyFChicken]

26:53 the joke is that earthquakes make faults in the ground. A fault is a planar fracture or discontinuity in a volume of rock which has been displaced.

[@ayanellezooman685]

Me to that joke 😑😐🫤😵‍💫🤢🤮

[@KeyFChicken]

@@ayanellezooman685 the joke was pretty bad 😭

[@ayanellezooman685]

@@KeyFChicken I know!!!!!

[@Venemofthe888]

There are times where I'm like the parents are just awful cause when Henry doesn't do anything and still gets blamed. The worst example of this is when Peter wanted to be horrid like Henry he sprays Henry with the hose and what happens? The dad blames Henry and even when Henry says he didn't do anything and peter admits it, the dad says Henry should have gotten out of the way of the spraying with no punishment on Peter at all

[@Ribbital]

It’s sucks that you didn’t mention the episode where Henry’s dad ditched him to take care of his sick mom while he went to a Company Paintball Tournament WITH PETER. The only good part abt it was the companion episode where it shows them having a terrible time.

[@StrawberryCocoaPowder]

I hate how Horrid Henry looks like Chara from Undertale bro...i cannot see undertale the same way again 💀

[@gothnerd887]

The book version or the TV version?

[@StrawberryCocoaPowder]

@@gothnerd887 Moreso the TV version

[@gothnerd887]

​@@StrawberryCocoaPowderthat would be an interesting fanfiction. Henry's parents finally get rid of him while hiking on mount Ebbot

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll]

@@gothnerd887It would explain why Chara hated humanity. Headcanon accepted!

[@skootergirl22]

This came out earler

[@uno_revers]

PURPLE HAND GANG FOR LIFE

[@bokiwoki5763]

No grove street 4 life 👕 You purple ballas

[@ScorcherCarnation666]

PURPLE HAND GANG!!

[@bokiwoki5763]

@@ScorcherCarnation666 grove street 4 life player 👕👕👕

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

If Henry had a YT channel he'd name it PurpleGangbang.

[@karkatvantas612]

jesus christ this explains a lot why this was my favourite show when i was younger and living in an abusive household.

[@lucyjj0932]

Horrid Henry was my favourite show as a child. When I was about 8-9 my parents banned me from watching it because it was “a bad influence” (I was a ‘difficult’ child and apparently the show was making my behaviour worse). Now in my early 20’s I’ve been going through therapy for anxiety, trust issues, low self esteem, and it’s clear to me why horrid Henry was my favourite show. My parents were always very negative towards me as a child, lots of shouting and blaming. When I was in trouble my parents would smack me and scream in my face, when my older sister was in trouble she’d get a stern talking to at most. In addition to this, I’ve been told that I likely have adhd/add. It’s weird how I related so much to this show without knowing that that was the reason why I liked it so much.

[@hhh1234h]

I clicked on the video thinking “hey I read a few of those books growing up” but then was confused why I didn’t remember any of the plots or titles. Turns out I read “Horrible Harry” growing up 😭 which surprisingly is not a knock off and came out 6 whole years before Horrid Henry. The video is starting to compute now.

[@frauleinfunf]

Funny I was watching the video and being reminded of Horrible Harry. The author actually once came to speak at my elementary school and I remember following a writing tip she gave about carrying a notepad and jotting down things you notice throughout the day that might make for good story material

[@Ich-Existiere-Nicht]

​@@frauleinfunfThat's actually neat

[@Diaryofawerewolvesbf]

I never realized Horrid Henry is just a kid who has major issues. Also makes me realize I'm alot like Henry in the show

[@wadeyhyena1657]

Fun Fact: The original book author (Francesca Simon) doesn’t like the show or the movie because it doesn't feel like "Horrid Henry" to her. With how watered-down some of the episode adaptations are in comparison to the books, I can't say that I blame her for feeling this way. I actually liked the show as a kid. But even I found parts of it weird, and I definitely didn't like Peter, or the parents back then either.

[@OsirisTheRaptor]

This fictional kid acted the same way as the person that bullied me in primary school..

[@audieb512]

So? Even if they were abused, it didn’t give them the right to bully you.

[@draila7022]

I didn't even remember this show existed until I noticed you were making a video about it, saw Henry's fiendish little face and went "wait a sec, this looks familiar". My brain legit just erased all memories of this show before you unexpectedly unlocked them.

[@kristallazooloo]

When i was a kid i read a bunch of the books and wasnt even aware the show existed, I always did have a weird feeling about the parents treating henry that way though- i remember there was an episode where it was peter doing all the "horrid" stuff? And henry was a victim? i forgot abt that one anyways i will say the books gave peter a lot more redeeming moments and portrayed him as more naive than the show

[@mentle_gen]

I remember that episode so well because it was the most relatable. Peter was upset that the parents didn't give him any attention, as they were too busy yelling at Henry. Peter decided to do things that he thought would get him in trouble, so he sprayed Henry with water and the dad tells Henry "You wouldn't have gotten sprayed if you weren't in his way." When it was discovered Peter was doing bad things all along, they didn't do anything about it.

[@kristallazooloo]

​@@mentle_gen exactly! I'm not sure if this is the same episode (correct me if I'm wrong) but I remember there was an episode where Peter like said henry was stealing his cereal(food?) When he wasn't, and henrys dad just yelled at henry again and the second he walked away Peter started acting normal and poured all his food into his bowl again Sorry if it's convoluted! I don't remember the episode name but it's been something I think about every now and then when horrid henry is brought up :))

[@CadanL]

Yeah, I distinctly remember Peter being a little shit in about 1/5 of the stories

[@nagacs5594]

Henry and Ralph must be really good friends if there portrayed as best friends in most adaptation