Unpacking School Rules: Are They For Students or Teachers?

[@juliekmunden]

We don’t have a policy regarding teachers using our phones. I tell my students that I have a kid in college, one in hs, and a mother who had a stroke. I may have to answer a text, phone call, or answer an email from Admin.

[@vickyintexas3358]

I'm an adult who has been to college and knows how to pay attention to a powerpoint. PLEASE stop treating me like a child: I do not need 5 turn-and-talks and graphic organizers to remember how to reserve the library. Stop "modelling good lesson plans" and just respect my time!

[@cheyennemoore8380]

I somewhat agree with both sides. I use the arguement of "you pay for it you can have it (unless the place has rules against it)". But high schoolers can have starbucks if they're paying for it since most have their own jobs and go to college half of the day.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@cheyennemoore8380High schoolers don’t go to college until they graduate.

[@caroljones9229]

I see this as an opportunity for modeling. Not everyone is a veteran teacher. Also there is a large problem in the system where people assume that teachers know the best practices. Just like teachers, admin is often times throwing a wide net to try and cover as many gaps as possible. It also sometimes is solely for accountability. You were at the PD. You received the information. This means sometime as a veteran teacher you have to sit through a PD you may not need just like our high achieving students. I always tell myself to try and find something new in the PD so that it feels my time was worth it. ☺️

[@vickyintexas3358]

@@caroljones9229 Reaching out a helping hand to new teachers and getting them extra training or even just showing up in their classroom to help would be more effective if you actually wanted to help the new teachers. Veteran teachers need admin to respect their time, and it's not treating veterans like professionals if they are forced to learn basic techniques every time they show up to an information meeting. It implies that admin think the veteran teachers are incompetent, which is demoralizing! The time saved by not wasting veteran teachers time could be used by the admin to actually HELP the new teachers.

[@garrettkuracka2277]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251dual enrollment is a thing ya know.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

I completely felt this episode. I also am not a morning person, but if I am not 10-15 minutes early to work, my anxiety cannot. I am a much better, more cheerful educator when I have at least a few minutes to set up every day. Also why I fall asleep earlier on the weekdays, but I'll take it over the constant anixety attacks I've had in recent times. Seeing the results of that last school year has helped me manage getting up earlier to be early to school. But that's what works for me, everyone needs something different, or has different situations. I also don't have children so that helps. Gabe, I had the SAME thought when I heard "do as I say, not as I do". It is BS. You learn from watching not from only words. Also, I did think of Captain America with you too, so that checks out. PLEASE do the overstimmulated one. It's SO true. I've never been so overstimmulated in my LIFE. And I worked in retail in college.

[@XoZoe-k4k]

As always y’all never fail to entertain.

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

We appreciate your support! Thanks for watching! 😃

[@rebeccaernette1749]

39:01 my spouse is the first to know when there's tea 😂

[@cheryljoyce4308]

I use to set my clock back five minutes back in my. Car and kitchen when I was in college and helped me a lot not being late 😂 even when it said I was five minutes late in my car I was on time

[@cwctlh]

My sister the pediatrician said that she and every medical school classmate she knew did that (I think it was 10 or 15 minutes). It was referred to as Medical School Standard Time.

[@_SistaMai_-zr2lf]

I go to an all-girls private high school in Australia, and we are not allowed to have our phones on us during the day. For grades 7-9, they have to sign it in and give it to the office, but in grades 10-12, we have to put it in our lockers, like we are not allowed to bring them in class

[@elizabethriley7524]

I am a school lunch lady. I have also worked elsewhere to get by. I can tell you that if you walk into work at anytime after the time you are scheduled to be there you are considered late. If you do not give notice that you will be late there is no excuse for being late. Personal experience is included in this.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

I can’t stand workplaces that are gossipy. I just go to work, go home and stay out of it.

[@juliekmunden]

Same!

[@sidneysumner3714]

For entertainment, I become the gossip when I decide I’m leaving. The fun part about it is all of the gossip I give them about this is all completely false. Give them something to talk about that makes them look insane when the truth is discovered, then move on to someplace that actually respects me.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

@@sidneysumner3714 😂🤣😂

[@aidenalamo6262]

Before mobile phones hit the classroom and caused so many problems for pupils and teachers alike, teachers depended on the office phone for the staff and students to call their parents. It wasn't always about needing a ride home. It was about misbehaving or a bad grade on an exam that the phone was used. No student wanted to use that phone to call home and have the teacher pick it up and talk to the parent in front of the student.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

So true, I had one teacher who made me call my momma because I didn't do my homework. Hated that teacher though and don't recall anything positive.

[@jayde_884]

At the high school I graduated from everyone still used the office phone. It was always school policy that phones stayed in lockers turned off, but by my senior year they actually tried encouraging students to leave them in our cars or at home if we didn’t have a car.

[@andrealove6954]

My high school history teacher just told us, "Rank has its privileges".

[@teacherhelp1374]

In my classroom, I put my phone in the pouches where students put theirs. I practice what I preach, which builds respect with my students. This is my policy not a school policy.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

Applause. I put mine away unless I absolutely have to have it out. The kids know this and seem to respect me for it. I'm also of the mindset that they learn more from watching than what you say.

[@Camp_Olympia]

I was stalking your page and now I’m early 😅 love y’all. you always make me laugh

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

We love hearing that! 😅

[@IceNixie0102]

So long as you're within 7 minutes, you're on time. Rounding to the nearest fifteen, you're on time.

[@modolief]

9:09 - actual content starts here

[@mariekatherine5238]

I follow my Irish grandma’s wisdom regarding gossip. If you hear something negative, “Take it with you to your grave. Let it die with you.” I also don’t allow kids to talk down another teacher, even if I agree with their assessment. If what they say is a well known fact, I instruct them how best to respond. Gossip is not it.

[@AmeliaDusenbury]

I live in one of the states with the worst public transportation and that’s my primary mode of transportation. Sometimes I have the choice of being 10 minutes late or 50 minutes early. I choose to be 10 minutes late and don’t care.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

23:55 Brie: it’s not Boomer, it’s Gen X

[@gusgus2062]

This is the first time I don’t agree with this!!!! I’m a teacher and I’m not better than my students for being able to drink coffee. Sorry Gabe but I don’t think telling kids because I’m adult is good at all my POV. Love all of yall tho

[@amandafulton6895]

I have been on this planet for 46 years and I still haven't figured out how not to be late!!! ADHD is also my huge struggle!!

[@OliviaDavis-p1w]

In my school as a student no one is allowed to have to have their phone we have a button in every class if there is an emergency you press it and talk to the main office but if you need people you would use the school phone

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

Yeah it seems like a lot of schools are moving towards no phones in class.

[@luiginayerino592]

Backslashes were used to back a file out of one address on a computer; then, one could use forward slashes to direct that file to another address. Nowadays, we use drag and drop to move files..

[@JDLAMBO738]

"Are you invested?" Me:"Just call me Charles Shwab"😂

[@DollyCakes16]

Yayyy! Our babies are back! Thanks for the content guys!❤

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

Thanks for being here! 😃

[@meme-ru9ou]

I love watching this trio! You all make my day

[@koverbaugh91]

Jess I get you with the 5 minutes! It’s like when do you need to text your administrator and say “I’m running late”

[@Atos0520]

I am someone who is always fifteen minutes early to my clock-in time. The only times I have been late have been because of stupid weather or car accidents that block the road. And, even then, I'm typically on time instead of fifteen minutes early

[@artisticanna5275]

I can’t get enough of these podcasts ❤

[@mom2opnjp]

Please talk about the overstimulation and tips on how you handle it! I have taught for 22 years, and the overstimulation is either getting worse or I can't handle it as well as I once did.

[@apectkvromi]

my teachers quite literally scroll on facebook marketplace on their phones like WHATT

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

OH NO! 😳

[@desckUgah000]

You should do a skit of a bee getting in the class...choas...

[@stephaniealvarado4332]

If I'm not at least 45 minutes early to work, I feel like I'm already late 😂

[@Dandk88]

I have to clock in and out at the charter school I'm at in Texas. Technically everyone has to be there at 7:30, my duty starts at 7:15 🙄. Plus I'm a coach that stays later than most because of practices and games

[@TexasAsian101]

Circling back to don’t let students bad talk about your co-workers. Storytime: I’m sorry it’s so long. I will never forget it because I HATED one of our APs. Back in 2016, I was a senior in HS, an A/B student, never got in trouble, stayed pretty quiet, always got my work done, and overall trustworthy kid. One day I stayed after school with a teacher for extra help and when we finished I waited inside near the front for my mom to pick me up. Unfortunately, there were other kids also staying after except they were walking the halls, yelling, just acting a fool. The janitor had enough of them so she made everyone who was inside go stand outside to wait. I pulled her aside to talk with her to ask if I could please stay in the middle section (2 doors separating the outside from the inside) to wait because I had a UTI at the time and needed to use the restroom frequently; also I was very uncomfortable standing outside alone in the dark. She said it was fine, I thanked her, and she told me where to sit so I stayed there. Well around back those same disruptive kids got back inside and again walked the halls, yelling, etc. The janitor once again kicked them out only this time found the assistant principal, Ms. Sanderson to also back her up. As I was walking out of the restroom back to my corner the janitor said I was part of the problem because I was inside the building after she told everyone else to get out. I tried explaining to her I was coming out of the restroom and that we had already talked about this, but she was insistent that I was lying or she completely forgot about our entire conversation. Ms. Sanderson didn’t believe me at all, so she asked for me to give her my name to write me up for a punishment I didn’t even commit. Now here is where I will own up and take accountability, I refused to give her my name. I let the heat of the moment take over and pulled the “I’m 18 it’s after school hours and I’m just waiting on my mom to pick me up so legally I don’t need to tell you anything. I have the right to remain silent.” (Yes I know what 18 doesn’t have a car, but I also had seizures so I couldn’t drive also I shouldn’t have said that. ) To which Ms. Sanderson threatened to call the police to have me trespassed. Then she told me to call my mom to see how far out she was, so I tried to explain the situation to my mom, then Ms. Sanderson tried to interrupt me by speaking over me, tried yelling into my phone (I had it up to my ear) walking into my personal space and yelling into my face. I backed up multiple times, put my hand up in front of me, and asked her multiple times to back up. She never does just keeps coming forward onto me. It became a yelling battle between the two of us. I asked her to back up and she advanced trying to yell into my phone. Finally, I had enough and after her threatening to call the police I just started walking off. I walked off campus, a few miles down the road, called a friend to get me out of there, and I left. I let that entire situation consume me to the point that I “ran away” and didn’t tell anyone where I was for 3 days. After getting a clear head and a lot of convincing to go back to school, I still had to have a chat with the AP, I was still punished with 2 days of ISS, and when I returned to class, I had every single teacher ask me what happened because they were so shocked that I would ever get ISS. Told them the story and they all had a shocked look, except 1 teacher who was also my safety / favorite teacher who gave me “the look” of I believe you and I know she’s on a power trip, I’ve seen it too. Because she let me vent and she was able to relate to me we connected even more. I never bad-mouthed Ms. Sanderson except that 1 time explaining my story, and to this day I‘ve lost all respect for her. However, I do still text my favorite teacher and I still love her to this day.

[@krisskye4678]

Jess, montessori toy organization is a lifesaver

[@IceNixie0102]

25 years ago we often added a shot of vodka to the 20oz Dr Pepper. And yeah, we smoked in the bathrooms. Sometimes the "good" security guard would bum a cigarette.

[@adriannacarpenter9891]

e hall pass was so ass for the year we had it at my school. only 4 girls and 4 boys in the ENTIRE building were allowed out and when you’re in a highschool with about 1.5 thousand kids it did notttt work well. not to mention the awful internet connection… they gave up using the site

[@ndolan11]

My former administration had a rule that a written note from a parent was an excused tardy, no matter what the reason written on it. (Non-public school). This led to a series of excused tardies for a student due to “he overslept”. I told him one time that I really wished I could use that as excuse for myself because I did not always want to wake up when the alarm went off.

[@chelseydombroski3398]

I had an office job that had a 3 minute grace period to clock in so you could clock in 3 minutes late and it not be held against you so you wouldn’t be penalized. It was truly a godsend 😩😂

[@MrMarohlsclassroom]

If the teacher is acting poorly with the kids then they get called out. Thank you for doing some serious topics again❤

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

Thanks for watching! 😃

[@daniellemitchell3118]

I'm usually on Class Dojo, adding and subtracting points or contacting parents.

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

Lots of teachers seem to love Class Dojo. Especially at the elementary level.🙂

[@mwigen]

We can't have our phones, either, as staff at our school. We all do have walkies that we have to wear to communicate with other staff, though.

[@anthonycaddell-adams35]

I work at Lowe’s and we have a 6min period either 6 min before or after

[@j.j.gudiso773]

I am teacher in South Africa and at my previous school we couldn't have our phones out on our table. We could only use it if there was an emergency that occurred in class or use our phones in our admin lesson or during break if we didn't have duty.

[@heatherrembe2854]

I'm distracted by Jess's shirt....so adorable! I need one 😅

[@paigegarner2821]

The way I want to know ALLLL THE DRAMA!!! I just don't wanna be involved 🤣

[@lmacks1031]

It’s a miracle if I can read a text from a co teacher let alone actually reply to it. There is no time to scroll. If a teacher is constantly scrolling all day then there is a problem

[@olly2027]

When we have meetings I just go on my computer and look stuff up.

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

BAHAHA 🤣 more proof we’re just like the kids 😅

[@candacehoff9849]

Wanted to let Gabe know that I binge watched "Surviving Paradise" this weekend.

[@margaretcapers2368]

so far this the 6th time harry potter was brought up in videos lol

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

LOL🤣😅 Whoops!

[@margaretcapers2368]

@@TeachersOffDutyPodcast this is def bri responding lol

[@CarinRenee]

“Do as I say not as I do” is diabolical work us millennials heard from our parents on a daily, let alone teachers 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@territurner9702]

The only time I had my phone on my body was when my daughter was close to having my grandkids.

[@hannahgraham9648]

I’ve never been late to work but my shift starts at 3pm

[@AddisonOlivas]

Personal space i have a teacher that what's us to stay away from his desk and him but one time he got sholded to sholded with me trying to demonstrate parts of a cell and then started talking about something else and wouldn't move i had to push him away and HE WAS PUSHING BACK finally got him away but 😰

[@hannahgraham9648]

I am not a teacher I work in nursing I had two of my residents fight over wether a hot dog was a sandwich or not for 5 hours

[@lindaowens2966]

My daddy always said if you are 15 minutes early, you are late. Aa ab adult I have a panic attack over being late.

[@corinthiaharmony9295]

When I had my phone out it was either to let my mom know the state of my mental health, updates on what is going and why I might not be home at a normal time, as well as the security it the teacher or school phone is not enough in an emergency.

[@corinthiaharmony9295]

Note I am now an adult

[@sarahcooper942]

Time blindness! Same!

[@animecookies8784]

The talk about adult actors playing teenagers in movies or shows is something I rather see than kids playing kid characters. Only because how messed up the entertainment industry can be to kids. Some don't even have a choice because of their parents. At least adults usually can make their own decisions

[@GODFATHERCJ5]

I will say when it comes to middle school phone wise it’s understandable but when it comes to high school I find it really annoying since I wasn’t a social person and i genuinely hated majority of my high school classmates and the hole school and when I got told to put it away I didn’t and just left the class itself (not in character)

[@amahlegidimisana1808]

I'm a student in South Africa and they semi shut down the bathrooms because the boys set their's on fire. So everyone suffured

[@deniseposey6237]

I have to be at work by 7:05

[@Flower_playz-m7q]

My teachers are literally a bit coo coo 15:37

[@paigegarner2821]

And my man does NOT count in the don't tell anybody. I'm gonna tell him every time

[@clarinet800149]

Every year that I was a teacher (10 years) I was habitually late, 5-20 minutes and for some reason my admin would always assign me morning duty. I tried but just could not make it work the morning was the only time of solace I had in a day and I just couldn’t give it up I guess. But regardless of all of that I was still chosen to be teacher of the year at the school I worked at. Now I work outside of education and my current job gives me a hour of leeway in the mornings to be late, didn’t negotiate for it or anything but I think they heard a rumor from somewhere 😂

[@nybsbfan18]

Our schools use the pouches. I'm not a teacher or a student.

[@Nicole-sx4po]

i am not a teacher. but where I work you have 7 minutes before you start to get points for being late...

[@amandaladd8771]

If I had any respect for my boss I would agree. Unfortunately I work for a micromanaging megalomaniac who thinks he’s the most important person on the planet. Nvm he hasn’t taught after Covid or in the last decade and when he did teach it was for 5 years. He also doesn’t treat us or my kids with respect. So under normal circumstances yes. In mine respect is earned.

[@thormaxximus]

GREASE ❤ GOAT

[@ginac-u4s]

Also, can I buy the purple shirt- easily distracted by school supplies......??

[@TeachersOffDutyPodcast]

Here! shop.boredteachers.com/collections/tee-shirt/products/easily-distracted-by-school-supplies

[@sylvesTAU]

Im a teacher with two young kids. I need to have my phone just in case something happens. If im checking my phone, im checking work email and work group me

[@gracescott775]

I LOVE FREIDA MCFADDEN

[@PeskyMess]

Starts at 10:00 Didn’t watch, just assuming they ramble again forever 😐🙃

[@MrTdubb641]

That explains it... Gabe doesn't like Harry Potter because it is a rip off of Star wars only with wands... Really think about it and look at the characters and plot...if you don't believe me google it I imagine there is a video explaining it

[@amyclarke978]

Being on time is late. Always gotta be 15 to 20 minutes early.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

I said this, thank you. Yes

[@grahams.2313]

Your pronouncing Birmingham wrong, pronounce it like Birminghim :). Come to France.