Unsolved mystery caught on camera | Missing 411 (Part 7)

She said bye to her mom, hopped in her car, drove 90 miles to a forest she was unfamiliar with, got out of her car and walked straight up a mountain into oblivion...
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[@scoutdoors6210]

I can’t be the only one who scares myself watching his videos but just can’t stop watching them

[@alynaelder2186]

Me lol

[@seren6696]

me too

[@jonathandrevlow6612]

Same!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Mo0may]

I have to leave the lights on.

[@seren6696]

@@Mo0may its disturbing for sure

[@kellyharris5705]

Who else watches this while in bed. And then listens for all noises in the house😂😂😂

[@OHOE1]

The reason why people are running away into the forest and not knowing why they did it, can I explain. The humans are a species that has started to become more affected by there instincts and are will become monkey in 300 years. LONG LIVE THE БЛИН 🥞

[@tysongalloway5700]

Totally. I haven’t gone into the basement since I discovered this channel 3 days ago

[@webbess1]

I'm now terrified of my washing machine and the eerie bangs it makes.

[@bonniehowell4259]

I was watching these videos on my back porch at night and almost jumped 5 feet when a deer or racoon walked by our house. Lol

[@randomchick1459]

Me and I now know that my house makes soooo many strange noises 😅

[@melr1598]

My sister worked with Dale’s wife. His wife looked for him on vacation time every year. She even saw a shaman/medicine man who told her he suffered something to his head (head injury or stroke) and that he would be found off the regular trail. He has been found but no cause of death could be determined. Im glad she found him for her closure.

[@ilovecornell]

So unbelievable that they couldn’t find him SMDH

[@pokerbaby7]

Thank you for giving Dave the credit for all his hard work. He has never had a problem with anyone sharing his info, but a lot of people just use it with no credit for him. You are a standup guy, which is why I enjoy your vids so much.

[@octeval3890]

why do i read dave everywhere i thought his name was dale

[@vs8909]

I hear he visits Dave in his free time to give him a massage, with a happy ending. Hes so awesome.

[@HELLRZR-nm3vv]

@@octeval3890 Guy that got lost in number three story was Dale. (RIP) Dave is the guy with the Missing 411 series.

[@octeval3890]

@@HELLRZR-nm3vv thank you for explaining!

[@craigalleman5339]

I agree Dave P. is awesome and works hard for what he does.

[@Rachel-vz6gw]

At this point David Polidis should just hire you to narrate his audiobooks.

[@sweetfreeze5528]

Yes please 😊

[@NicoleMichelChannel]

He should!

[@krtm7231]

I wouldnt be able to listen to audiobook narrated by mrballen. I would miss the hand gestures

[@Weird_but_neat]

I mean…you know David has his *own* channel, right

[@sweetfreeze5528]

@@Weird_but_neat I did not. Thank you

[@johnathonroy1768]

I’m a grown man who now needs a night light

[@marktoledo7898]

LMBO! Same here brother. I usually watch these late at night.

[@Veeena]

If it makes you feel better I don't see any problem with it

[@Jade--46]

Now you can see in the middle of the night!!! It’s great

[@king_Kinzey]

I use one every night 😂🤷

[@mariamjoseph3605]

😁😁😁🌺

[@OctobersDaughter]

I think it's so strange how people seem to wake up one day and do something so completely out of the norm for themselves. Then, if they are found alive they don't remember anything. I wonder why these cases haven't been researched more intensely by anyone in the psychology field. There has to be a reason why this continues to happen to people.

[@kaylanorton3212]

Aliens

[@briantannenbaum8110]

I mean psychosis does make people act strangely, but I’m assuming in these cases that was ruled out

[@alsmith9853]

Psychotic break. It does happen especially when an individual is stressed. Covid stressed a lot of people immensely

[@jasonm9264]

The first story, from the news article I read, sounded like she intended to go out for the day, ran out of gas, then tried to make a shortcut through the woods to a gas station in the next town over, but got lost.

[@thehousespouse]

It has been extensively researched It’s called Dissociative Fugue

[@annabellenonimous1302]

About a year ago my husband introduced me to this channel and we started watching it together when new stories come out. We’re adventurous people, we like hiking and exploring, building and fixing things, trying something new etc. But ever since we started watching this channel before we do something that seems a little dangerous we ask ourselves if this will make us into an episode. We’re much safer people thanks to this channel! 😂

[@redxross]

Recently I ventured onto an overgrown 6 by I foot patch of my lot, which is in a residential area in clear view of the house, the sky, and neighbors' houses. Yet I was thinking "I must be crazy, walking into this tangle of weeds! One wrong step here, one twist of fate and I'll be a MrBallen story!"

[@snickerdoodles787]

Don't let this channel stop you from being adventurous. I'm an avid outdoors person as well, and I've had some of the best experiences outdoors. Granted most of my hiking experiences have been outside the United States. I don't really hike in America, actually.😂

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

"He was an avid outdoorsman" oh dear, that never bodes well

[@denniswiggins3816]

The words, "they launch this massive search" Usually doesn't bode well either.

[@tanyat1896]

You are so cute!😂

[@jjj-bl8yf]

@@tanyat1896 thanks I’m 16 tho

[@Talletc]

That's the same kiss of death as 'she lit up a room' in these stories.

[@tanyat1896]

@@Talletc people have given me that same, unusual description over the course of 50 years & I'm still kickin!😜 lol but you do have a point

[@robertzack1635]

I like how mr ballen gives David 411 his credit multiple times every show .

[@jacqueline3782]

He literally uses his books for his whole tiktok/YT "career." He better.

[@my11badkids78]

Yea the fact that he retells all these stories is fantastic. I love the missing 411 genre but personally I can't take listening to David Paulides tell these stories. He drones on and gets sidetracked nonstop. Very hard to follow. Mr. Ballen gives a very concise version with little to no fat.

[@darrylmarshall3301]

David is probably his dad...

[@robertzack1635]

@@darrylmarshall3301 dave paulides was years of research and books into all strange disappearances b4 any one . to not give dave credit on one of daves investigation would be deceitful is why i respect it . and your comment is fuked up in general . if you followed the topic you might know why

[@robertzack1635]

@@my11badkids78 Dave tells the story like a detective would and does . mr ballen is a very good story teller . all depends how deep and how much time you want to get into the subject .

[@theeasternfront6436]

Many years ago my very close friend and I hiked and camped on this very same area on the same creek. This was years before this young lady had gone missing. As we hiked in we kind of marveled at the fact there was ZERO wildlife. In the dense woods of N.W. Washington state its not uncommon to get into patches of woods where this is true, but this was for miles. The entire hike in we were both creeped out, speaking to one another often about it. Finally we came to a nice wide, flat spot along the creek and set up camp. My Buddy had a fire going and was in pretty good spirits, I how ever was still uneasy. That night we were both sleeping very fitful. I woke up to what sounded like a large animal running down the trail next to our tent, what was especially creepy was the breathing of the animal, it sounded like it was breathing very heavily, like I could hear panic in its breath. I have spent TONS of time deep in the woods of Washington around elk, deer and black bear, I’ve never heard an animal sound like that. The next morning we quickly packed up and headed back to the car, both of us looking over our shoulders. To this day we still talk about how weird that experience was.

[@joybarker7906]

One of the commonalities in the Missing 411 series is search parties coming across the missing person's shoes and/or clothing, as though the person suddenly removed them, choosing to wander lost in the woods barefoot/naked. I find that so strange, even if one is disoriented/dazed it seems so odd that this would seem like a necessary thing to do. Anyone else find this really odd?

[@nalciel6577]

Your comment is from 4 months ago so you might not see this, but if you’re still curious look up “paradoxical undressing”

[@karlpatterson8437]

Maybe the shoes are starting to e uncomfortable after much walking and they slip them off but intending to put them on again, but something intervenes.

[@mrniceguy3660]

@@nalciel6577 The "paradoxical undressing" BS needs to end under the missing 411 posts. It's not a common occuring, it only happens in the very late stages of hypothermia, right before someone is dying and so people won't just take off their boots to walk a few miles barefoot while being moments away from dying

[@nalciel6577]

@@mrniceguy3660 I didn't ask for your opinion, nor are you an expert on the topic. Shush

[@mrniceguy3660]

@@nalciel6577 You left a public comment on a public video, so shut tf up bozo

[@KitKat-un9ml]

*Update.* Sadly, not too long after you posted this video, Dave Stehling’s remains were found 4.2 miles from where he was last seen. The police got an anonymous tip that a body was found in a remote, off-limits section of park. Due to the state of the remains, they couldn’t determine a cause of death. A bizarre ending to a bizarre disappearance.

[@joybarker7906]

Thanks for the closure on this one, so sad that he was calling for help & no one could find him!

[@winstonknowitall4181]

@@joybarker7906 "a body was found in a remote, off-limits section of park". So it was not him calling for help.

[@jennifervolden4611]

Idk I’m starting to wonder about parallel universe’s, there’s been other stories where people can hear someone yelling for help but they never can find the lost person…

[@winstonknowitall4181]

@@jennifervolden4611 I prefer to use Occam's razor and not seek paranormal or far-fetched explanations where regular one can be found. 1. Everybody lies 2. People mishear things

[@no_im_dirtydan]

The parallel universe theory is commonly accepted in the upper echelons of the science community. "Paranormal" is seeing a puddle in an abandoned house and blaming it on the spirit that continues to haunt it even though there's water damage on the ceiling above it.

[@fawn4968]

Any time it starts with “He was an avid…,” you know it’s not going to end well.

[@barrysmith8920]

Right? And an “avid outdoorsman” with NO water on a hot day, is insane. So sorry his story didn’t end well. 😔

[@borleyboo5613]

It won’t end well for the poor bloody animals these tossers ‘hunters’ are shooting at.

[@jrooksable]

@Darkfarfetch:?????

[@Peoplecallmemanny]

@@jrooksable I don’t think they meant to make that a reply. They’re referring to the last story.

[@TruGhost.]

Ikr. "was" = key word.

[@sandyalbanese8393]

Please. More stories where folks are found alive. It’s fulfilling

[@JustStupidly90]

The first story reminds me of a story I had read in college about this young 22yr old girl who had recently lost her mother and one night she randomly went to a near by lake and walked for 2days and found her mothers body she had no clue how she got there and called the cops she went missing for 3 days and people say she got “possessed “ by her own mother who guided her to the body for closure 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Phidnok]

I was not expecting the girl that walked up a mountain and was gone for 9 days to be found alive.

[@flycatchful]

She was rejected by her captor.

[@mommawolf9653]

Me either. I came here to say this girl commited suicide, or ran off and started a new life

[@veronicavatter6436]

True dat

[@ceejayc6502]

It sounds like she was abducted, harmed in some way and released and blocked it out...

[@dentonthomas5622]

I believe this girl had a mental break. And needs medicine. We have someone like that in our family. They do stuff like that and will keep doing stuff like that until the mental illness is diagnosed by a doctor. If they dont take their medicine they will have another mental break. Sometimes it's hard to get them back to normal. It's not unusual for someone like that to just jump in their car and just drive off somewhere without any thought of where their going. Or why. We deal with that kind of stuff all the time.

[@dirtdiver1123]

Mr. Ballen’s most used phrase - “ a massive search is launched “

[@paulhagan3348]

Lol 😂 iykyk

[@andyhughes5766]

It’s, “(the guys) all of whom are in excellent physical shape….” (Annnnd cue his buddies with ridicule and appropriate quotes such as: “look at the butt on that one!” “He must workout”)

[@rasmencasim9846]

yeah .. that indicates your watching all of his series

[@cassandraperry5574]

Take a shot! :P

[@lancejobs]

Super easy barely an inconvenience.

[@lizzie98]

I met a woman recently who suffers from some type of dissociative disorder and regularly runs miles ending up with no idea how she got to where she's found. She and her dog have to wear a tracking device so she can be found. She had suffered trauma whilst working in the military as a dog handler.

[@ElessaB]

A friend of mine was having seizures where she could still function (driving, walking, eating, etc) but was super confused about what was going on around her and couldn't verbalize anything. They finally diagnosed the seizures and put her on a medication and she's ok now. I wonder if that (or similar conditions) explain some of these disappearances.

[@ryanbrown4053]

Probably at least some of them

[@maryeckel9682]

I wonder if there's some electromagnetic activity in certain places causing people to have atypical seizures. Hmmmm. Could be natural or human sourced, not saying it's supernatural or extraterrestrial. The likelihood of multiple people reaching travel or altitude fatigue in the same area is something else that could trigger seizures.

[@ryleymcclure7515]

“She had a sip of seltzer water” The details that really matter😂

[@corporalchaos666]

Its is thirst Quenching...lol

[@GenerationDown]

Sometimes I wonder if those details really are true or he’s just painting the picture for us more vividly lol

[@deliateresita2773]

It adds to the pizzazz

[@peacelove6356]

@@deliateresita2773 Pafizz? Pafazz?

[@katzrkool77]

😂😂

[@devilishking1739]

Imagine you being the only one ever knowing what happened to yourself.

[@Elensaire93]

This got me right in the feels.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

Yeah. Especially that last case about Dale and how they heard him calling for help but couldn't find anyone. I really wonder if he fell into sinkhole. It reminds me of that one case where that guy was walking in his field (I think it was in like the early 1900s) and his wife is on the porch and his wife literally saw him disappear before her eyes. And she went out to where he was and she could barely hear him yelling for help and it sounded like it was underground. And so she called his brothers. And they could hear him calling for help too so they called in the police and volunteers and everyone started digging in that whole area where they heard him and after like 10 ft they hit bedrock. And he kept calling for help for days until he stopped.

[@devilishking1739]

@@WhitneyDahlin wow that's crazy I've never heard of that one

[@troublezcantseewell9724]

@@WhitneyDahlin what is this man's name ? I would love to read about this story ??

[@ramblingruthie7602]

I would haunt someone if it was foul play. Then again I do believe in Jesus and am not 100% sure that the saved walk among us and I think if they do it isn't for long. Jmo

[@lifesyphon1]

Dale’s remains were found not too far from where he went missing. 😞 The Tom Messick story is pretty much always on the outer edges of my consciousness. Its one of the more bizarre disappearances i’ve read about, especially the whooshing sound and the FBI involvement… totally weird.

[@tbdingle]

Toms disappearance is definitely one of the weirdest cases I’ve heard of because he was only 100m away and I’m pretty sure he was in a tree so I don’t know what could’ve grabbed him with such speed that he didn’t make a single noise and that swoosh probably was whatever grabbed him

[@NexuJin]

@@tbdingle I wonder or he could have fallen into some hole in the ground and the swoosh sound was the collapsing ground and vegetation around it. And the collapsed ground filled up the hole, and prevent any sound he could make being heard and thus being found. That, or big foot or aliens.

[@l.j.i]

​@@NexuJin it's gotta be a cougar. With how quiet the forest went... forests go quiet like that only when big predators are around, and if you see a cougar it's usually too late for you by that time (because that means they've already been stalking ya). My vote is 100% cougar attack.

[@joannedavidson1575]

@@tbdingleTom was sitting on a tree stump (in the documentary) but he was a very experienced outdoorsman yet armed with a radio for communication and guns (I believe a shot gun and hand gun) but nothing was found , NOTHING , no supplies no hat no torn clothing and no body or bones even after a few years and in the documentary another older gentleman also completely disappeared from his home not too far from where Tom disappeared- this case still gets to me. The documentary is “Missing 411” the Hunted

[@Erlrantandrage]

I always wonder what people mean when they describe their family as "avid outdoorsmen". My brother in law spends the majority of his free time fishing, hunting, camping, etc. And being from Minnesota and now living in Alaska most of these things happen in Winter. I'm sure many would describe him as an avid outdoorsmen. However, I'd trust my city slicker sister to survive longer in the wilds because despite having less experience in the wilderness than my brother in law, she has far more common sense, and is much more risk adverse. Basically in my experience just because you spend a lot of time outside doesn't mean you aren't stupid and won't get lost and do something risky that actually puts you in danger. Also the last guy, my suspicion is he was much further away than they thought and that his voice was esentially an echo that could be heard from that location.

[@c.m.880]

Agree. I feel like "avid outdoorsman" is what family members in denial say. My father is an "avid outdoorsman " who I could absolutely see getting lost somewhere because he doesn't pay attention to anything lol

[@The_ProfessionalKid]

I'm a fan of the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format.

[@AndyDaClimber]

Then empty the Like Buttons shampoo bottle and refill it with mayonaise.

[@Ceebear231071]

@@AndyDaClimber 😂😂😂

[@Ceebear231071]

As am I 👻💀👽

[@GG-qx5uc]

Then take the like buttons mother out for a nice sea food dinner and never call her again

[@paulinecasey5731]

@@AndyDaClimber]

[@odeo5691]

Hearing screams of help and being like we checked already is like losing your phone and having someone call it. Hearing it ring and going no I checked already

[@torynchelle]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He was obviously in that area... that's bizarre. I can't believe the issue wasn't pushed further until he was found - especially since he was calling for help. Get some dogs out there, their smelling and hearing is way better than ours. 🤦‍♀️

[@joysanders59]

Yes! Get your ass back out there again and SEARCH.

[@catlady6687]

That story bothered me the most. If I believe he could have been found.

[@dot620]

you might think so, but the human brain is very good at hearing what it expects to hear. wind and water can make all sorts of human like sounds that your brain will interpret as whatever you are listening out for. They could well have combed every corner of that cave and found nothing. it is also possible they didn't look hard enough (and for some reason he stopped calling out while they looked for him down there?), but no reason to assume negligence. In all honesty I legitimately can't imagine any grown adult getting lost at Mesa Verde or deciding not to carry a bottle of water with them at all times in that kind of environment. Everyone in this story except the girl who decided not to go looking for him by herself is at fault.

[@elavke5441]

@@dot620 this lady wasn't looking for that man. They should have taken her more seriously.

[@delaneydillon1671]

Ok, the story about the man, Dale, at Mesa Verde was told as a cautionary tale to us as teens (I grew up at the base of Mesa Verde). My family is 7th generation to the area and they have lots of stories about things that have happened locally, and I remember when my parents talked about Dale. Don't go off the trail, they always said that. And don't go onto the rez alone. Just so many dangerous places that people can get injured.

[@jasonalvis7252]

Got nothing but sincere respect for you sir. Not only going thru the shit for your country. But then to have the integrity and character to admit, at no fault of your own, that your experiences scrambled a few of your eggs and using your epic storytelling abilities as a form of therapy is Galaxy Class assess and conquer instinct..... Truly Inspiring Sir!!! Thank you,,,,,for everything.

[@nataliapolova2850]

Wait whàaat? Is this really true about Mr B?!

[@jasonalvis7252]

@@nataliapolova2850 yeah brother. ...he's the real deal!! He's been in situations for this country that movie producers couldn't come up with. You want to listen and learn from a man that has something to say??? Fuk top ten , he's the ONE mutha____r!!!!

[@Tier1Norseman]

Wilderness Rule 1, the most important rule above all in the wild: If you don't hear a single sound even far out, abort.

[@tryhardfinessedyou]

Yeah this needs some work bro.

[@bobbymorris9513]

when a predator is on the prowel is about the only time it gets quite . Most of the time we're that predator/hunter .

[@user-wt8tc4cm3m]

@@bobbymorris9513 Makes one wonder what predator could cause such a silence like that in the story and be the result of a missing hunter...

[@Mamuttum]

I've said this on another video and people are just laughing, kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpmrYYx4gtOafrs&lc=UgwD0T-FDS2BeO5F4Il4AaABAg.9Jl49zqJIWs9KTAepuTusV , but its very true what you're saying.

[@robertbrown5279]

Backed out of a place I hunted for years. Exactly because of the complete silence.

[@robertoadorno5032]

Am I the only one who after listening to his videos turn on the light before walking into a room.....asking for a friend. .

[@user-qi1lb3hp3q]

I do the same thing 😊 No worries

[@matthews7755]

With my flashlight on😂

[@85gorby]

Most if the time I listen at 5am on the treadmill in the basement. When I come back up stairs it's dark because my husband left for work and turned all the lights out on his way out the door. I has to ask him to leave a light on for me. 🤣

[@GeekRaj]

I always keep my lights on even when sleeping.

[@kimzfax2450]

For a "friend" hmm 🤔 🤣😂

[@denversmith8019]

I’ve grown to not like hearing stories told by anyone else. Only this man!

[@msigg2656]

same here and I've now heard them all and have to wait Sundays story...

[@nikiTricoteuse]

Thanks to kit kat's update on Dale's remains having been found, I went searching for more info. None of the articles l found gave any useful info on what may have happened or where he was found, just that it was approximately 4 miles from where he was last seen. I did find this bit very touching. "In the years since her husband disappeared, Denean Stehling said she returned to the park about a dozen times, even getting in good enough shape to hike the trail he was last seen on herself. “I just needed to go and sit in the park and talk to him,” she said. When the remains were discovered, Denean Stehling said, it was difficult to explain what had happened to their 10 grandchildren. But the discovery also brought the family relief."

[@lindaforest3798]

I wonder if the people who are actually found alive were ever put under hypnosis to find out what had actually happened to them. I would like to know.

[@Thegreenpig22]

Someone else commented this and a response said they advise against it because the brain makes them forget for a reason and hypnosis can almost re traumatise them

[@rivumrejex2864]

Still think it would be quite interesting tho......

[@jjohnsengraciesmom]

Interstng but unethical.

[@amandaramalho6609]

That would be so interesting.

[@Utriedit215]

@@Thegreenpig22 actually think that's really stupid either way you're traumatized you have a whole part of your life that you don't remember and you don't think that's traumatizing

[@natalivankova3023]

Honestly, from the moment I found John’s channel, that’s all I can watch! I am constantly walking my dog at night on edge, but I just can’t stop. I can’t be the only one terrified and engulfed at the same time. He’s just so incredibly talented at bringing these stories to life! Respect and appreciation! Thank you 🙏🏻

[@melodyclark4347]

Thankful for the dog, right?

[@mistylongo8403]

Same! He’s got lots of cool stuff on TikTok too!

[@craZbeauTful]

This makes me feel normal af🤣 I listen alone and vulnerable at night too but can't stop.

[@mirrrstery]

Same girl, freaking same. Always on edge... can't stop won't stop

[@amycooley7757]

Lmao!!!

[@shaunpfaff4574]

Way to give credit and mention Dave's channel, he's put so much work into this subject. He did a video mentioning John and said what a great guy he is, and that they were talking about a collaboration! That would be awesome

[@AJ12716]

It always unsettles me when these poor folks are never found. It must be so frustrating and heartbreaking not knowing what truly happened to their loved ones 😢😢😢 I know it would me 💔💔💔❤️

[@MunsonX]

Dale’s ghost is really pissed that nobody looked harder for him.

[@thenamethatwasntaken2314]

Woman: "I heard a man screaming for help over there!" Rangers: "Well we were over there earlier and didn't find anything, so..."

[@hannahswheelieawesome]

I am certain something was lost in the retelling haha. I imagine they checked again.

[@thenamethatwasntaken2314]

@@hannahswheelieawesome I can imagine that as well. I'm just not sure that it happened.

[@MsStack42]

".....so it must be a man over THERE, who can throw his voice."

[@orionthehunter217]

Based on some of the other stories MrBallen tells, my guess is that there was an old well, sink hole, or partially exposed cave somewhere right under everyone's feet, and Dale just happened to step on the hole just right, so as to fall right in. If it's a small opening, maybe along the side of a boulder with brush covering it, then it's understandable how they could hear but not actually find him. He's probably still down in that hole, and he's probably not the only one. That hole is probably awaiting more victims. Scarier than getting hit by lightning.

[@wildblueyonder7484]

@@orionthehunter217 was thinkin exactly this same theory

[@kikiokellern7351]

I do not get scared from horror movies or from haunted houses, etc. but these stories sometimes have me doing that whole turn off the lights, jump in to bed from the door thing because you know something is going to grab your feet. Or, I have a fear of turning around after coming up the stairs from the basement and seeing something horrifying coming up (and sometimes my cat will be sitting there with her eyes glowing...that's fun).

[@rckblykitn]

I've always loved scary shit and binged a few dozen MrBallen videos when I first found his channel a few weeks back. I actually recently had to take a few days off to watch some upbeat Disney movies instead because I got really paranoid after some of the serial killer stories (I live alone). He's such a great storyteller - maybe too good sometimes!! 😁

[@kristinwojtowich8902]

I feel you on the cat thing lmaooo

[@juleslemay8725]

@@rckblykitn Jamie, get a. small dog, they are wonderful companions and great watch dog/friends!

[@JamesSmith-vo3ys]

Came here from Corpse Husband's reading of search and rescue stories, and I feel so fortunate to have found Mr. Ballen to cover more of these in finer detail. Thanks John

[@braflusc]

Literally just discovered this: Dale Stehling, the man from the last video, was found. His remains were found on September 17th, 2020, just a month after this video was released. He was found 4.2 miles away from where he was last seen. Along with his remains were personal items that contained identification. What is odd is how far he was found, the anonymous tip that led to the discovery, and that there was no indication of foul play.

[@happeedaze1]

Thanks for the additional information.

[@nostringsattatched7725]

wow!!

[@wandamoore265]

Yes Thank you. That one definitely left off on a cliffhanger. But the whole story is very odd given his experience.

[@kristenc8967]

The weird thing is the multiple reports of people hearing a male calling for help and the rangers not being able to locate him...? It's sad that he may have been pleading for help and people heard but failed to find him.... until 7 years later

[@questionsonchristianity8204]

@@kristenc8967 think the rangers were too laid back in starting the search.

[@Misskittyclimber]

How sad for dale. He was RIGHT THERE, and they knew his voice had been coming from there from multiple reports, and they just gave up. Imagine your last moments being relieved you’d been found, only to be overlooked several times after which you die where you lay. I understand conditions were brutally hot, but it feels like if they had just kept looking where they knew the voice was coming from they would have found him.

[@leonardodavid4670]

yep

[@anthonygarcia3922]

@@leonardodavid4670 no

[@anthonygarcia3922]

Well it wasn't him, He also said that the rangers were receiving reports about the voice hours before Dale's situation. In an update, His body was found about 4-5 miles away from that place as well. It wouldn't make sense that he'd be hurt asking for help "Right there" & then suddenly be okay enough to walk 4 miles away from the area.

[@kjames5682]

@@anthonygarcia3922 He may have recovered from a fall.

[@Marxistnazi]

Well, they didn't feel like doing their jobs that day, what can you do?

[@maxtrivizo5849]

Does anybody else ever imagine him narrating whatever your doing with extreme detail?

[@Shashogun]

I actually know the story of Tom Messick. The “sound” that his buddy heard was not in the area of Tom. He heard it at the ridge closer to wear the pushers were. Nobody else heard it though

[@Poison_Beat]

Update on Dale Stehling: his bones were found 4.2 miles away from the trail and were at the base of a lone tree in the bottom of a ravine on September 2020

[@npc1374]

they only found his bones?? where was the rest of him??

[@colourfultoreador8467]

@@npc1374 he decomposed, this is 7 years later

[@npc1374]

@@colourfultoreador8467 well it was nice of him to organize all of his bones in that spot befor he dissapeared lol

[@lovingmayberry2000]

@@npc1374 Not funny.

[@npc1374]

@@lovingmayberry2000 it was more than to humerus

[@chynabaer4826]

It’s literally like something takes over their brains and draws them into the deep woods and makes them walk and strip down to nothing until their bodies just give out! These Missing 411’s are very Bizarre

[@m998hmmwv7]

No shoes but socks are always clean. I think someone else removed the clothing.

[@Dark_River_Kennels]

Nah it goes way deeper then that, you are just at the entrance of the rabbit hole with that thinking, follow Dave Paulides the author of the book he is using.

[@eliazarelizondo7075]

Vampires seem to have this ability real well.

[@chynabaer4826]

Yes I would definitely like to know what you think as well @Joshua

[@michritch3493]

People getting hypothermia think they're hot and often try to take off their clothes, so in some of the winter disappearances I suspect that might be the cause.

[@nellafay5485]

Thank God she was fine. I can't imagine the agony of losing a loved one and never seeing them again but wisely, not knowing what happened to them must be agony.

[@skyler-bluwhitaker2710]

I’ve literally watched/listened to ALL OF YOUR CONTENT across all platforms. Keep it up my dude, you’re really onto something here, and thank you for taking the time to do this!

[@JDsModernMartialArts]

I appreciate your giving credit to Mr. Paulides for the efforts he has put forth with missing people.

[@yourinnerlawyer4035]

Unfortunately I've recently heard search and rescue professionals don't consider this man credible. The type of cases and the entire facts aren't presented. Like molding the stories into the crazy stories that people love to hear. Works for him, he sells the books!

[@amandaramalho6609]

@@yourinnerlawyer4035 you really believe that?

[@baltimorefan5642]

@@yourinnerlawyer4035 you realize there's people who go out of their way to cover things up or just dismiss things

[@princeofthomasville5638]

Mr.Ballen Talks to the camera as if you were standing next to him Tells us the story as if we were sitting down by the camp fire

[@tomcastle5675]

Making it the best for listening

[@vreed27]

Special Forces dudes 👍

[@pfukpfizer]

Like Mr Roger's. Ha

[@ramonabenson1265]

I’m so happy I listen too Mr. Ballen ,I’ve purchased all the 411 Books Amazing reading books 📚.

[@banditvinchenzo347]

I live in Washington and it amazes me how much crazy stuff happens in the mountains. Every time I camp at the Hoh rainforest or pacwood I wonder how many people's unfound bodies are laying in the woods or in animals dens within a couple dozen miles from me

[@platinumare]

My kids are rolling their eyes at me, as I binge watch your videos. My son literally said to me 'your still watching his videos?!'

[@EliteWheatProdctionZ]

lmfaoo

[@BeeLZBeeb]

Probably concerned about your mental health… bit like the look my partner gave me when I described the last one I watched 😅

[@Elensaire93]

My husband says the same. 😂

[@toekneeroni]

I am addicted to his story telling. And I can't wait to see which flannel shirt he will wear next

[@walbathreadkiller]

I love it that he gets the kind where the patterns match!

[@KimberlyBishh]

Ikr ❤💛💙 ...and hubba hubba

[@eloschk]

About the first case, people tend to forget that sometimes humans just... snap. I've heard so many stories of regular people who just became erratic suddenly, doing weird things and going weird places. When these situations happen and there's people around they can usually get help, but if the person is alone there's a huge probability that they will get lost and/or hurt. People are fascinating.

[@Grandmama-Rainey]

I'm hooked! I can't stop watching. I've stopped watching my other stories.

[@suzannecoultard8579]

I have a lot of respect for how you gave Dave Paulides credit for the Missing 411 efforts he has made.👍🏼 I've heard other people do similar content without giving him credit for the research he has done. Thank you for doing that in yours.🌟❤️

[@susancoulter4129]

I appreciate him doing that as well. We have similar names, you and I, Susan Coulter.

[@1w598]

He knew he had to, in order to be seen as credible.

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

@@1w598 - Well it's not like David Paulides is exactly seen as the most credible person on the planet.

[@mayhem2288]

I think its really cool too. With that being said it’s the right thing to do and to be honest it would be nice if he even did a little more. For example, he could direct people to his KZbin channel. I’ve also notices he doesn’t give the same amount of credit on every vid--kinda varies from vid to vid. Maybe I’m getting carried away and nit picking, but David deserves much more credit than he gets and should have a much bigger following.

[@suzannecoultard8579]

@@mayhem2288, I can hear the respect in Mr. Ballens voice when He speaks about him. IM GOOD WITH THAT.

[@ottertank8845]

I've grown up in Washington since middle school and can confirm that some of the woods here is odd. There was a woodsy area I hiked in when I was in high school just to walk around by myself. It wasn't too big of a wood area. Suddenly the noise just cuts out. There were no animal sounds at all. When I realized it, I stopped and looked around. I didn't think much of it until I took a couple steps and suddenly had an overwhelming feeling that I needed to get out of there and I was being watched. I was NOT welcome. So I left as quickly as I could and never went that deep in there again.

[@GlennaVan]

Good decision!

[@InteriorDesignStudent]

Bigfoot

[@Arkylie]

Predators make the prey animals go silent. And I've recently heard that some predators emit a sound too low for humans to hear -- infrasound or something? -- which can cause anxiety or dread in humans. So it's very likely that you were in range of a powerful predator and only following your gut saved your life.

[@nuviaerivez5876]

Smart cookie

[@paulbibbee1671]

cat

[@starplatinum3053]

When hunters disappear under such mysterious circumstances the explanation that comes to mind automatically is "You've taken too much from the forest, it's time to give something back..."

[@reblanium]

This day has been strange, dark, mysterious and delivered in story format

[@diablosauce6306]

So basically they got multiple reports of someone calling for help, knowing there was a man missing, and they didn't think to look harder?? Why did they just dismiss it when they got multiple reports he was obviously there.

[@thomaspayne6866]

Exactly. That’s when you bring out the search dogs

[@maryherron1304]

That’s what I kept thinking and expecting SOME ONE to take responsibility to get him the aid he needed so desperately.

[@aisforannihilation1662]

Rangers: "Yeah we heard about that guy calling for help. Hmm. Bummer. Hey, who wants to play uno?"

[@Treddian]

Dogs, ground penetrating radar, loud speakers and sensitive hearing equipment, something, anything.

[@Erin-000]

They need to be fired!!

[@stolennimbus]

You know something is way off when Mulder and Scully showed up for a simple missing person case.

[@ralcogaming7674]

The fbi does actually have a group of cases we'd call their "x-files" they call them something else. It would amaze you how much of these things the fbi takes note of even if they don't get involved.

[@bobreams5178]

Definitely.

[@katzrkool77]

Mulder and Scully 😂

[@Sutherland6872]

Avid outdoorsmen with years of survival training gets lost in woods he’s hunted for decades? Yeah, I th ink that’s worthy of FBI attention. The whooshing sound is the only thing that’s spooky though, gotta admit.

[@luzceniceros4349]

Super suspish

[@kathyscorner4917]

I agree they dropped the ball on this one..his family knew he should have been back and the fact that he was experienced, and still out there was all the more reason for concern as he knew his family was waiting. Unfortunately, every minute counted here!! 😕

[@hongkonglolo]

Mr Ballen You Rock! Can't get enough. What a top notch speaker and story teller. Proud to be a fan.

[@stephaniefaithbates]

They found Dale’s body in September of this year, 7 years after he went missing.

[@mikelol9891]

Were

[@stephaniefaithbates]

@@mikelol9891 Apparently on a path closed to the public at the bottom of a canyon at the National park where he went missing - weirdly in an area that had already been searched previously.

[@jennifertrejo7109]

@@stephaniefaithbates wow really?

[@SS-hd5jx]

did they determine cause of death?

[@fatboymig1]

Link please.

[@hrudayjadhav6057]

Mr ballen : He was an Avid outdoorsman or competent outdoorsman Me: shit is about to go down

[@karanfield4229]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wolvie1618]

Mrballen: "He was a competent outdoorsman" Me: "clearly he wasn't doll, or you wouldn't be talking about it"

[@marijse9958]

Also never have a bright future in front of you or be liked by all.

[@wildcowgirl77]

SAME!!

[@cpellett0821]

I like the ones that are like "now for an experienced diver/hiker/caver, this would be no big deal. X, however, was not experienced." Whompwhompppp

[@melj7172]

I'm a huge Missing 411 fan. Glad you support David's hard work!

[@sonnetlyric3951]

Dark Knight sent me here Mr Ballen. Outstanding channel sir!

[@Shmitty_A]

Sorry I’m late, I couldn’t find the like button. It showed up late cuz I turned off its alarm yesterday

[@MrBallen]

True fan right here 🤜🤛

[@veannegilchrist9925]

🤣

[@seekanddestroy7343]

Hahaha me too!

[@cuttheknot4781]

He has shown photos of the wrong Missing 411 victims twice in 2 weeks. His research sucks and he adds a lot of his own twists. He is not loyal to the facts and it pisses me off.

[@lotuslake9323]

@@cuttheknot4781 Perhaps you should just 'cut the knot' and go elsewhere if you don't like it here. Free choice.

[@brandonlipps4694]

Story time with Mr. Ballen has turned into a family tradition 3-4, sometimes even 5 times a week...

[@jb-uw2vt]

😂😂😂

[@bironjames9948]

Lmao

[@katiethomas5690]

Haha my dad and I watch one of his videos together every other day

[@victorialmiller2577]

David P is pretty awesome guy, his videos are well done and lots of work goes behind them.. thank you for sharing these stories 💯💙

[@sandrabaker5298]

I’m a person who has never believed in aliens. But stories like the first one where she didn’t know why she drove to that location, and her still being found alive, with no memories and not realizing how many days had passed since her disappearance, it kinda makes you wonder, doesn’t it?!

[@theshape3988]

Respect isn't given its earned. The fact you shouted out David Paulides and linked his channel is way more than other youtubers do. I respect that and I'm a big fan. You're an inspiration to my channel and im growing bc of that. Thank you for all you do. Keep these up

[@Parnell07]

He’s brilliant this guy, only found his channel on Friday and have watched everything. Love Paulides from the first time a saw his talk at Mufon. Bob Gymlan is great too but it’s pure Bigfoot/Cryptid, his Dennis Martin video is beautifully done with the artwork.

[@mr.smoothbody4317]

Thank you your channel good and it's give you alot to think about

[@lukedarsey404]

Shape. What’s ur channel about ? I’m interested

[@s6m349]

This stuff needs to be National news this stuff is extremely bizarre nothing about this is normal there’s literally no explanation for an avid hunter to vanish without a trace

[@blue_moon6490]

The Shape respect is given for being human, it is taken away when you are proven unworthy of respect. Understand that.

[@Willow76ny]

Have they ever tried hypnotizing the survivors to find out what happened to any of them?

[@kerrynicholls6683]

That’s a good idea 💡 , It couldn’t hurt.

[@donc9751]

Great idea! If they haven't tried it that would be strange I think!

[@markouellette6868]

Good idea but to me that's just asking to trigger ptsd from trauma. They lived best to leave it in the past

[@CrisisHipHop]

I always ask that

[@pigbenis4207]

Always wonder if people go crazy or see something that drives them crazy while alone in woods

[@TruGhost.]

Shoutout to Detective David! Without "Missing 411", Bizzy Bone would've never seen his mom again.

[@melk2155]

I never get tired of Mr Ballen's storytelling.. the fact that he's easy on the eyes is an added bonus 😍

[@Nola5427]

He is handsome 🙃🙂

[@reblanium]

Agreed 😍

[@dnr2089]

I like Mr Ballen. He’s an excellent story teller and he doesn’t use bad language 😁

[@robz5435]

@Makko Senpai that's what I was fucking thinking. Smh

[@jm_games999]

@Makko Senpai ik, but some people *(children)* can't watch vids with bad words so more can watch.

[@edwarddavis3436]

@Makko Senpai people over 40 or so were taught foul language displays no class by their parents. It actually takes away from the story for them. Parents were more conservative back then and taught their kids manners. Whether you like it or not it’s written in their DNA and can’t be easily changed in their minds. Not to mention these stories are appropriate for some of the younger audience and we as parents appreciate a clean story.

[@asddsdsssd]

@@edwarddavis3436 lol bad language makes you low class? Get off your high horse you fuckin yuppie

[@Cornell851]

Fuck no you don't need that shit to tell a good fucking story 👍

[@maxpeach7631]

Who else is a bit worried that this is so recent saying that we’re still in the same pandemic this story happened in

[@novella8300]

I said the something to myself. That’s crazy

[@kristinwood8884]

More than a bit.

[@cobymichaels7863]

Not worried. The average recovery from a pandemic in the u.s. is 18 months.

[@1w598]

As long as Trump is in office during a pandemic, you should be very worried.

[@maxpeach7631]

@@cobymichaels7863 covid is definitely an exception

[@johnwood2013]

I love missing 411. I first heard David Paulides on Coast to Coast radio about 8-9 years ago and I’ve been hooked every since

[@synical2935]

can’t believe it’s been 2 years of strange, dark, and mysterious.

[@Leo-yx5ew]

I wonder if the "weak male voice crying for help" wasn't Dale but rather he also heard it and went investigating, leading to his own doom. It was also reported and investigated the day previous to his disappearance. Possibly it was just a trick of the wind, a mischief maker or someone/thing more sinister.

[@cassieandrews8392]

I came to the exact same assumption. Someone was luring him away from the public into a private area to harm him.

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

interesting theory

[@ansc6472]

@@cassieandrews8392 a paranormal malevolent intelligence

[@cassieandrews8392]

@@ansc6472 Malevolent yes, paranormal not likely. I would say the "Good Samaritan" happened to him.

[@ansc6472]

@@cassieandrews8392 explain why blood hounds chasing a person's scent just suddenly stop, walk in circles sit down and whimper on the trail??

[@colettemr]

Imagine crying out for help, people hear you, but you are still never found. :(

[@BootsORiley]

i really think the search squad was pretty negligent in that case. his body was found 4.2 miles away from the spot he originally wanted to hike to

[@romanmalinski8641]

I walk home listening to these videos and if I ever get home alone I feel on edge but i cant stop watching them

[@doctormino]

Just subscribed to "Canam Missing Project". great stuff, thanks MR. B

[@doubleboy2388]

I feel like the girl went into a trance at some point when she was driving down the road. Because it's like she didn't even realize she was going to run out of gas, and had no awareness to even pull off the road completely. So it makes me think at this point she was in some kind of trance. And she gets out and immediately walks uphill. Very strange story.

[@mariatorres5563]

@@andrewbecker9062 it could be so many things,but something more powerful than her was at play!!

[@CT-my3kr]

Walking uphill makes sense if you have no cell reception and you just ran out of gas, and eating some berries and river water full of who know what for 5 days might put your brain into "alt mode". Why she didn't notice her low gas tank? I did it once, trying to push the limits. Once.

[@GhostRanger5060]

The trance angle needs to be researched. My 13 year old son almost disappeared on a trip we made to Mexico. We were staying in a hotel on the ground floor. My wife and I both woke up at the same moment in the middle of the night, that was strange in itself, and we were both noticing our two sons in the next bed. My eldest was sitting up. My wife called his name. He acted as if he didn't hear her. Then he stood up, walked to the sliding door, opened it, climbed over the railing on the patio and walked out onto the lawn alongside the pool. We called his name again and no response. He walked about 50 yards to the edge of the pool, stopped and stood for a full minute, then turned, walked back to the room, shut the door and laid back down. His movements throughout were robotic and trance-like, and his eyes were wide-open. The next morning we all woke up and asked him what he was doing. He had no recollection of the event whatsoever. We still have no explanation. This was beyond sleep-walking. And even if it wasn't, maybe what we call sleep walking is connected to some strange force that is trying to manipulate minds when they are in a low-alert, sleep-state. So many of these stories make me think of my son. I think, had we not awakened and seen the whole thing, with the ability to catch him before he could have gotten much further, I fear we would have lost him that night.

[@GhostRanger5060]

@@andrewbecker9062 I agree with you. But my point is, we really don't know "the why" behind sleepwalking. Your examples only confirm my point, that it is possible something can use this human weakness to lead people away... or if it's a brain issue like schizophrenia (which is caused by a chemical imbalance), then perhaps it explains why things like this happen to certain people. I have heard of people who "came to their senses" someplace after a long hike when not thinking about their surroundings or paying attention and suddenly realizing they were lost. Same concept.

[@GhostRanger5060]

@@andrewbecker9062 I saw a great youtube video of Navajo policemen telling stories of the strange and supernatural on the Reservation. One officer described a personal experience of making a two hour drive to another city in AZ for training -- I know what those roads in Northern AZ and New Mexico can be like -- mind-numbing. Anyway, he remembers making a turn on a bend in the road and then his mind went blank and when he "woke up" he was at his destination. The weird part wasn't just the "zoning out" but the fact that he also arrived 45 mins early. He says to this day he still can't account for the time difference or remember what happened at the moment he "zoned out." I had a similar experience when I lived in Hawaii. I clearly remember a strange man, a short Pacific Islander, walking up to me and saying something at the moment it happened. I lost 10 mins of time after that. Hahaha, I remember because I was sure I had been hypnotized and robbed because I was standing in front of a bank machine. But no, I still had all my money and credit cards. But what transpired in those ten minutes when I went blank? Who knows...

[@emoss6264]

Fantastic story teller, thank you for the content.

[@laurenlemon]

Bilal ikr I thought I was the only one who thought that 🤣

[@NavyWife]

Thank you for sharing the information about Missing 411. I have watched one of his videos and it was great. I look forward to seeing more of his videos.

[@kylabanger1055]

That wasn't Tom Messick you showed, it was another man who went missing about 9-10 days after tom in a similar but more Southern part of New York. Also, Tom had never hunted there before.

[@yudelkam.5465]

You're right. I Googled it. Thats a picture of Frederick Drumm. Tom looked different and had a missing eye. 😑

[@NimbusAdrift]

Yep I just watch Missing 411-The Hunted on KZbin and I was like WAIT A MINUTE! Haha I thought I was losing it

[@joydavis9264]

It aggravates the crap outta me when I hear that they told the lady, "Yeah, we've been getting that report but we already looked there and couldn't find anything." What the heck would make you NOT look again somewhere where more than one person heard someone calling for help?!!! I would've asked the lady to go back out with me and find the EXACT location where she heard it coming from. She may have been afraid to lean out over where she was hearing it, but if they had taken some equipment out that would allow them to anchor themselves and look more safely, they might have saved his life. My gosh!

[@dramalamadolls3375]

@@Couplescience yea I think hes gotta be there. Maybe an optical illusion in the rock is comaflaging a crack or crevice.

[@NiaJustNia]

They found his body around 5km off the trail under a tree in September 2020

[@susanivy3619]

You are so correct! I can't tell you how many crimes/murders and accidents have a period of time where the victim can be heard screaming for help...most of the time it's rationalized away by the people hearing it, or in rarer cases like this one, it's reported but only superficially checked out, a quick one over of the area and that's that. There has been a handful of cases like these on Mr. Ballen's channel...matter of fact, just saw one yesterday on this channel (Ballen's shorts) where a young lady working at Disney got trapped in the carousel (used as a 6 segmented stage), where every time it took a turn her body was dragged and mangled...6 times! Her screams of help were heard by many but all assumed it was part of the show, until the very end when a lady told an attendant they should probably check out the screaming lady. Poor woman, clearly lived for most of the horrific ordeal and could have been saved, like all the other victims heard screaming for help in so many of these stories... if just found in time. I hope anyone reading this gets help ASAP when hearing someone cry out for it and don't take no for an answer...make sure the screams are checked out by the authorities. Personally, from now on if I ever hear someone crying out for help, I will assume it's a dire emergency until it's proved otherwise.

[@TeeMonique803]

They really didn’t show much effort nor compassion towards him nor his family and it’s just so frustrating because had they gone about it accordingly he may have possibly still be alive today…Such unprofessional idiots

[@Aron-ru5zk]

They found his remains in 2020 over 4 miles away from the trail, but you’re right about him falling.

[@rain7bow437]

Mr Ballen, You keep me sane. I suffer from chronic depression and anxiety and your channel has been a life saver Thankyou

[@ericaberry535]

Me too!

[@bethstephey6026]

Me too!

[@Dee-JayW]

Me too!

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

I suggest getting your B, magnesium, D and potassium levels checked.

[@Dee-JayW]

@@Nabsolute_ perfectly stated!

[@elisenaify5538]

I’m hooked! Great story teller!

[@tvc380]

Why are people so worthless? If I'm in the woods and I hear someone calling for help, I'm not leaving until I find them.

[@hannahswheelieawesome]

7 years after he went missing, Dale's remains have been found in a remote part of the park. He had indeed gone off trail and taken are more difficult track where you have to climb over stone steps. Most likely he took a fall and because he was not on the regular trail he perished. It's so sad.

[@susanivy3619]

Thanks for the update :) This is very sad. I guess the family has some sense of closure now as someone just completely disappearing out of thin air must be one of the worst fates a person's family would have to endure...the not knowing. My two wishes in a story like this are always...the victim didn't suffer long (or at all) and their family can find some peace over time...hope both is true in this case.

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

Why didn't Ballen, especially with the help of Polidis, present this info? Disappointing.

[@cricka09]

@@Johnny-lr5jt this video came out before they found his remains, pretty simple

[@cpellett0821]

RIP Dale :(

[@cpellett0821]

@@Johnny-lr5jt they can't update literally everything. He's a busy guy. It can be common for cases to be resolved after the missing bits on them so I always search them up to see if there's been a resolution.

[@katemaloney4296]

One of these days the LIKE button is going to take off its shoes and go for a long walk in a forest and disappear forever.

[@suziq1200]

😂

[@KimberlyBishh]

MrBallen should like this!!😆😆😆😆

[@theunlikelybeekeeper2173]

If he knows how to survive in the woods and taught others, he could have possibly known how to survive undetected, even undetectable to the FBI. I do hope that one day he will be found and he can rejoin his family. I’m always captivated by Mr Ballen and the way he narrates these stories. Great channel!

[@CheezInspector]

Regarding Tom Messick: That sound may have been a sniper who was recently roaming the area, killing Tom. A sniper could also explain the lack of area animals, if animals had been used as target practice beforehand. Also, if the sniper crossed over state lines to murder, FBI involvement is par for the course.

[@lalaje3354]

But there's no body?

[@CheezInspector]

@@lalaje3354 Many homicide victims' bodies aren't found, and if circumstances re: one missing person is similar to other, recent victims, FBI/law enforcement may investigate that missing person case too.

[@haileycampe1495]

Tom's situation was a straight up Supernatural Episode, with random FBI agents and everything. Hope Sam and Dean caught whatever it was

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

It was a fairy. Remember the episode with the UFOs and it turned out to be fairies and Sam even said it wasn’t really UFOs and it was fairies and dean was abducted and got beat up by a tinker bell.

[@dtz1000]

They found his remains in a remote area of the park 4 miles from where he was last seen. He must have gone wondering off the trail and fallen badly injuring himself. No supernatural event or other rubbish people come up with.

[@mstirlz]

@@dtz1000 yes, true, you just forgot to mention about the 10 foot demon wolf that pushed him off the cliff

[@laneybiscuitsss9427]

I miss Supernatural.

[@louim223]

If you ever went missing I think we all know that the like button is the prime suspect

[@rashane9796]

Facts😂😂

[@louim223]

rashane adams 😂

[@noeraldinkabam]

The like button stands his ground.

[@JenGCYYC]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dantheman1621]

Brilliant and of course you are right, it's that dam# like button.

[@corylynndefilippo4957]

MrBallen I just love the way you tell your stories totally addicted to your site. 💯💛✌️🌻

[@lwj93]

The second case sounds like something straight out of Supernatural