Filmmaker jumps off a cliff & runs into a forest... | Missing 411 (Part 8)

[@dianecooper5523]

My daughter is 21 and she recently lost her sight due to a medical condition. She loves murder, mystery and all things dark and twisted. Lol. We just found your channel about a month ago. And you are now her favorite story teller. She says the way you explain it, she can actually picture it in her head. She and I are huge fans. Thank you. Diane Cooper

[@aspenhelsten6927]

Sending love to you and your daughter ❤️❤️

[@ecr7078]

Awesome. Hugs Momma.

[@Wowvod]

This is accurate, he’s a really good story teller.

[@marioreyes5816]

Lol

[@youtubeuser206]

Was she diabetic or something

[@Mandrag0ras]

One thing I've learned from Mr Ballen's stories is that, when a kid disappears in nature, you need to search in a radius of at least 40 miles to find them.

[@Stop_The_Insanity]

Ain't that the truth 🥺🤦🏼

[@krawc0]

And you can expect terrible snowfalls and storms just as search parties assemble

[@blc28x]

They will be high up in crazy places on sheer cliff walls

[@unumannum7146]

And swamps

[@Stevenbmore]

That and another thing learned is that he has some serious hate for that like button 🤣🤣

[@preacherF-15]

I spent a decade as a deputy sheriff in rural Texas. The cases that haunt me are the unsolved child disappearances. It's crazy how quickly a child can vanish.

[@lesliesmith6683]

Thank you for your service as a deputy its important in this crazy time glad you made it

[@zsfreestyles2007]

Hope you're doing well. We can only do our best and help as many as we can.

[@preacherF-15]

@sandra caraveo I never realized people would find my life interesting, to be honest. The last year or so with covid keeping everyone home more than usual eventually led to me breaking out a few of my favorites They were very well received, so I'm leaning towards writing a book, to see if their are enough lunatics out there to support it :) I grew up on our large Texas ranch, dad was a fighter pilot (WWII, Korea, Vietnam) 3 out of 4 brothers were military pilots and later airlines. I was a fighter pilot, bush pilot, corporate pilot, research pilot, airshow pilot...loved any job the second word of which was "pilot". I also spent over a decade in law enforcement, of course. Lots of weird stories there. I even have one err...ufo?...story. I hope it all comes together. It would be interesting hearing (positive) reactions to my life experience.

[@hydrogen1635]

@@preacherF-15 i would like to hear about the ufo story if you want to tell me

[@preacherF-15]

@@hydrogen1635 I actually wrote it out somewhere here a few months back. Be warned...its weird, but no little green men. I don't know your background, but I did my best to simplify the aviation dialogue and the tac-air atc coms. In fact I left out much of the radio chatter altogether, if you come from an aviation and/or military background you could probably guess at everything said and have 90% of it. I included anything germane. I'll find it and link or paste it here. It's pretty boring for a ufo tale. Sorry. 🙃

[@HappyDoughnut1]

This guy is so nice to stop on a mountain in the rain just to tell us these stories, while we are all comfortable in our homes.

[@lenapaws]

OMG ur killing me. Now I look forward not only to his videos but ur comments as well lmao u guys should Collab lol

[@Quokka838]

🤣🤣🤣

[@angeljones4441]

Rain or snow?

[@angeljones4441]

Nope. I see the rain now. 🤣

[@persona5305]

😂

[@tommyeugene]

tripped on the computer cord, fell and bumped my head on the like button...

[@fearlesslegend999]

Tommy lol

[@christineazmi5111]

LOL💞

[@zac3713]

Epic

[@elijahwood9276]

Accidents happen man hahah

[@saturnz3668]

I fell and died

[@topcat5233]

nooow i know what i like more about this. every ''spooky'' story teller has no facecam, while this absolute bloody legend is standing here talking to us with his face on blast like we in a convo, telling me to hit the like button with absolute love then breaking up the day after. love it

[@bapples_bot957]

TOP CATT❔❔

[@tiffanye9776]

Finding the missing person's boots set nicely by a tree has definitely become a theme in these missing 411 cases

[@dot620]

You're feet warm up quicker by a campfire then you take your boots off, anyones guess why they never put them back on after, maybe frostbite makes it too painful/clumsy (and actually thawing out your feet like this after frostbite is probably excruciating) so realising their feet are too far gone anyway they give up and go barefoot. Another thing that often gets forgotten is snow blindness, altitude sickness and the neurological effects of stress and shock.

[@waddee30]

The aliens don't want you tracking dirt into their spaceship.

[@fentazen2677]

@@waddee30 Oh please

[@Tayjahbaby8371]

Also there always something going on with their feet. Either missing feet or only foot bones found in socks. Just weird to me. I get taking ur boots off what I don't understand is not putting them back on.

[@JacobMeland]

Sometimes, in cases of late-stage hypothermia, you undergo "paradoxical undressing" where you're body is so cold, it perceives it as incredibly warm.You then undress to feel cool, even though you're freezing to death.

[@lisahinton9682]

I appreciate that you always let us know what happened to the animals in the stories. A lot of people don't include what happened to the animals unless the animal was a direct part of the story. You're a kind soul, @MrBallen.

[@vivelajonny]

Who doesnt say what happened to the animals?

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

@@vivelajonnypeople that don’t care about animals/ people that think human like is the only thing that actually matters

[@jfhfjdhfhdjd6452]

As a former 0311, I had some disturbing incidents at Camp Lemonnier that were silenced. I have photos(digital and disposable camera) and tried to file reports that were ignored and I was summarily punished for. This ended in a ton of issues with members of my platoon, but my fire team always believed my claims. I have pictures taken through the FLIR on our 240G that cannot be disputed. I appreciate your open mindedness to things that cannot be explained and what needs further explanation. Keep in mind, this was around 2004-5 and minds were more significantly closed than they are now. You have encouraged me to revisit the “environmental interactions” that took place during this particular deployment. Thanks for helping me put the shame aside and look from a different perspective. If you are interested in telling my story(other men from my fire team can attest to these strange occurrences), please let me know. The stories about OP ROCK and the SF group have given me a bit more courage. I have been discounted for over a decade by friends, family, and other men that I served with.

[@alvaroramos7564]

devil i heard about op rock where can i see your pics God bless

[@rocklobster1138]

Pleaseeee share the experience

[@Dravianpn02]

I have a story I've been trying to relay to mr Ballen that I've considered writing a book about JUST to get my story out there and to possibly get some answers to my insane experiences me and my friends have had. I believe you. Whatever it is, I believe you. Please share your story. The more we have, the more other people will want to share theirs.

[@rahulpuneetsrivastava3750]

You got me interested . If you can please share the story .

[@tsummz1073]

I’d like to hear. I served as well and have one story. We can swap stories if you’d like.

[@memomorph5375]

Mr. Ballen is such a clear, concise storyteller. He makes a great balance of relevant detail and brevity. Great content!

[@portraitgaming3265]

Stac Master mic*

[@oklahomamaiden2644]

@Stac Master Hmmmm, then why exactly are you here? Nobody forced you to watch. So, I guess don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you! Pretty simple fix my friend. Ok, good day then. 😇🙊🙈🙉😇

[@KunuMcGruder]

He articulates his stories in a way that are easily understood.

[@jonwolf83]

@Stac Master I'm confused...you agree with the positive things said about Mr. Ballen or you are saying he is a schmuck and shouldn't get near a mic? Right after you agreed about Mr. Ballen, you said some people are very bad and and then started talking about "this schmuck". "This schmuck" meaning the video we just watched, or "this schmuck" meaning a specific example you are giving about another KZbinr you happened to come across?

[@Justme42yay]

Stac Master I’m confused who are you speaking of or is it a general example.

[@MakaMakesFortniteCreative]

I love this channel so much dont stop man!

[@itsmecrosby4723]

Wait until you find his tiktok

[@stoneyhigh05]

Makamakes here?! Kewl, love your work man!

[@j4yb0n3z2]

I love your vids

[@TheJoeBeshai]

Agreed!!

[@kerome_1438]

Hi maka makes I always play ur maps lol I love ur fortnite maps especially the plane one

[@xelane4454]

In the first story, I suspect that it wasn't Aaron that responded on the radio. It was his killer. It's unlikely that he would have wound up so far away from his intended destination, given his familiarity with the area. The only reason he might do so is because either he is somehow inebriated or because he was withholding something from his friends (such as having a secret cache with drugs or something he really wanted to get without being judged). I think that while Aaron as away, someone attacked him and then pretended to be him on the radio to throw them off and possibly buy time to escape or hide the evidence.

[@bigangenbygang]

Could've been a stroke, or some other kind of health event. Just something to make him lose cognition a bit, but still be able to speak. I doubt it was someone impersonating him. Someone who had just killed him wouldn't know his voice or cadence of speech. If it was a killing, much more likely that either they kept him as a hostage briefly, thus allowing him to use the radio to reassure his friends, or that he wasn't attacked until after the first radio transmission.

[@LlamaLobotomy]

These are both really good hypotheses. 😊

[@nathanielbromage5364]

The Lore Lodge has a video on him that has the probably cause. If I remember correctly he had consumed a good amount of alcohol along with some anti depressants

[@jaybea365]

The thing that always strikes me about these stories is that people say they looked away for only a minute. People suck at telling time. I've been in my apartment, with clocks in every room and thought I'd been doing something for a minute or two, only to realize it was more like 5. Whenever I hear these stories I double or triple how long people say they looked away for, and suddenly a disappearance becomes far more plausible.

[@misterbobby8913]

Fantastic point. Thank you 💯

[@wms72]

Glad you shared. With me, sometimes I think I've only been busy a few minutes, and an hour has gone by

[@Corrholioplays]

Aliens

[@VeracityLH]

You're right. The police do that too, at least estimating a range of time. "A minute" can be up to 5 or 10 depending on what the witness says they were doing during that "minute."

[@MemeGodAzul]

Fine & all but that's head canon. I understand your point but that's you inserting a time frame which you yourself are most likely completely unaware of. A lot of people happen to have good time management skills, not the majority of peps but a significant portion. We all know even a fraction of a second can completely impact an event dramatically so I would be wary of that.

[@RioElMystic-999]

Genie: you have one wish left, choose wisely Me: id like to know what happened to all the missing people never found in mrballens videos

[@vibecountry]

I’ll do you one better, know where every missing person is if you know their name

[@Darkour97]

Holy hell could you imagine the horrors that would be discovered

[@ShleepySchlub]

when you mess up and wish for one person

[@Thatoneguy-ro1sj]

No one disturb the like button

[@Darkour97]

@@Thatoneguy-ro1sj I agree, we must protect the sacred, "Nice!" At all costs 😂

[@spottedtallent]

No body ever looks up in the trees, when searching for someone, most people look at the ground.

[@mydl6314]

chills...

[@michaeloneill7495]

But we do have undated helicopters

[@krischimblo10]

My buddy who was in the army in Vietnam in a ground infantry combat role told me a portion of his training centered on drilling it into your head to look up and check the trees etc. when walking through the jungle on patrol. Also he was trained to hide up high if possible precisely because most people would not ever look there.

[@royalibis42]

that's why I was labelled missing for around two days.

[@markmark8464]

@@michaeloneill7495 Helicopters have a hard time looking through brushes and leaves.

[@suelangford100]

I vaguely remember the story of a child on Cannock Chase in England (an area of woodlands and heaths) where a family were walking their dog. They were wandering along and just suddenly 'lost' their child in the bracken. The dog eventually indicated where the child was- a hole had collapsed and formed in the bushes and the child simply dropped into the hole and became wedged in the cracks of the rocks. The fire brigade, got help from the local mining company who dug a tunnel alongside to get the wedged child out. This is a copy of a programme showing the incident kzbin.info/www/bejne/ine2iqx9aLCtZ9U perhaps some of the missing people have had something similar happen to them but never found

[@tripzc819]

Can you do a video of the most disturbing case you ever read? The one that shocked u the most and til this day you still can’t believe it.

[@sourgir-wh6xd]

@Alexis Auther the guy who let them take his dog? I was thinking the same thing.

[@kamiliajohnson7430]

"No one could understand what she was saying and decided everything was fine." What the heck man?

[@andrewdavie9760]

Agreed!

[@Danielle-pt7we]

Just reminds me of the serial killer that got one of his victims back from two police officers saying they had a fight during sex and he will just take him back home.. when he had drilled a hole in his head and was putting acid in to try and control him. Man could speak because of the hole and acid but police were like guess this other guys right..

[@kamiliajohnson7430]

@@Danielle-pt7we that's crazy.

[@debsbuckalew7345]

@@Danielle-pt7we that was one of Dahmer's victims. The police actually escorted the victim back into Dahmer's apartment because he didn't want to move. Also he was 14 (I think) years old and Dahmer was at least in his mid 20s. I don't even know how that happened. 😳

[@dia_o_angel]

@@Danielle-pt7we Dahmer. KId is naked and confused on the street with a hole in his head and Dahmer convinced the police officers he was his adult lover who occasionally drank too much and ran outside naked. Police apparently never blinked and left Dahmer to not only kill the boy but go on to kill at least four more people before being caught.

[@macksthemagnificent2653]

its always the guy who "knows the place like the back of his hand"

[@snaxalotl3021]

Ikr lmao I would trust the dude who had never been there in his life more

[@Jenacide]

Yup. It's that over confidence that gets you killed. First rule of enjoying certain riskier sports and hobbies is always keep that little bit of fear because it keeps you sharp and attentive.

[@evo2542]

Then you find out they dont know what the back of their hand looks like

[@shamusmcwright2640]

That story sounded like someone probably killed him and took his gear. I suspect when he radioed he was probably at gunpoint or something.

[@joshmattingly8056]

Knows the place like a backhand to the face is more like it. XD

[@jerrodrollins1509]

Yeah, I simply stay away from the woods, camping, solo hiking trips and all the other creepy stuff. Thanks for sharing stories that keep the rest of us safe!

[@SanDmaNTheFreakTrucker]

If animals could talk we would know so much more about the world.

[@arlandowarren7051]

This is the realest thing I’ve ever heard!

[@hypnozpie4071]

cats: “lmao look at these idiots”

[@cjudah74]

@@hypnozpie4071 lmaoooo

[@cjudah74]

You know animals know way more then we think they do we are the true idiots they are smart and witty

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Agreed animals can sense earthquakes and can sense things that humans can't

[@celinesantoro791]

It always weirds me out how perfectly timed storms are in these cases lmao.

[@dutch_steel8923]

That’s one of the factors that make a 411 case just like missing clothes, dogs losing scent and impossible locations. That’s what they all have in common is these reoccurring factors in each one.

[@secretdoorgaming2024]

I am wondering if it's because of the watchers they've been here all along.

[@ifartmagic]

@@dutch_steel8923 The missing clothes and weather - points to them getting hypothermia from the bad weather and then feeling hot so they remove their clothes. That part makes sense to me... but then do they suffer delusion and body numbness to walk, run, climb impossible conditions to end up in these strange places? I wonder what makes them go off on their own in the first place. If I'm ever in a strange situation I'm pulling out my phones recorder. And documenting either what may be the delusions I'm having or what's actually happening around me. Never know what I'll forget later apparently.

[@sportler777]

@@ifartmagic the hypothermia is the weakest point imo, when you are in such a case of panic you don't neatly fold your clothes it doesn't add up

[@ifartmagic]

@@sportler777 That's assuming you're panicking though. If you're in a delusional state and feeling really hot you may not realize danger you're in and fold your clothes or put them neatly to put them back on later.

[@skeletorakanick8804]

Never turn your back on your kids. It’s usually not a big deal but when it is, you will never forgive yourself

[@CrispyMOFO91]

I've listened to so many of these missing 411 cases that when me my wife and daughter go hiking I make my daughter walk in-between me and my wife. I also walk behind them so I can keep a eye on both.

[@curiouscuriouser2670]

@@CrispyMOFO91 You Sir, are a rarity. A responsible parent. Health and happiness to you always. 🙂👋🇦🇺

[@Sunset553]

I’ve noticed a similarity about children in a variety of types of cases. Here are some of the situations: A girl is abducted on a route between her home and another house or place she has gone many times. This one time it was dark, or this one time she was alone. In those cases there were abductions and murders. In other cases, parents tell their kids to go, right over there. But the parents turn their back assuming the kid can of course walk over to grandpa, or down a path back to the bathroom. Then there’s one of a handoff between parents, where a girl walks away from one parent toward the other, and a woman grabs the girl as she passes by in view of the parents. In all these situations, there’s an assumption that the kid is going to follow the simple path, immediately, and that the area along the path is safe.. None of the accounts were written to blame the parents. It’s just my observation that sending a child somewhere could be done more safely if an adult is with them. For example, drive them to the friends house; walk the toddler over to Grandpa.

[@lynneshively3790]

There are several things David Paulides recommends when going camping/hiking/hunting/fishing : 1) never go alone. BUT if you do always have a personal locator beacon. ALWAYS; 2) tell people where you're going, when you'll be back; 3) if someone is with you and they say they're tired or feeling sick, DO NOT LEAVE THEM ALONE (point of separation); 4) if on a hike, don't be the last in line; 5) don't run ahead of the group even if the topography is flat (point of separation). You can read all of these things in David's books but he has a KZbin channel. Usually on Wednesday's and Sunday's he talks about specific cases of the missing. He also recommends you share his info on Facebook, with friends and family. We all need to be aware of what is happening. Oh and just a FYI - the Federal Forest Service claims they don't keep records of people who go missing in their forests. David tried to get a list thru the FOIA and was told they don't keep that info. BUT if they did it would cost thousands of dollars to get it.

[@Hdogss]

@@CrispyMOFO91 what will you do if you go missing

[@juliuspleaser4675]

The story where Aaron deviated from his cache is why all friend groups should have a panic word 😳 Sounds like someone got the drop on him, took the pack, and made him speak into the radio :/ If he could have said a panic phrase it could have been different

[@jettysfuneral]

exactly what i was thinking

[@sladjanab]

Also he may have had a mild stroke and had become confused or lost eye sight ...and than he wondered and passt out eventualy died...

[@mintymushrooms8025]

Hairy aliens dunnit

[@BriskiTheFreak]

Thats exactly what I was thinking. It makes the most sense

[@skylinesquid]

Or a skinwalker speaking in his voice

[@Alexlemay17200]

Me: *decides to watch Mr Ballen’s video before bed* My sleep: “Ight imma head out”

[@vibecountry]

Pfft sleep is death according to these videos

[@RagefulCunt]

The demon In ur closet and Window:Aww shit here we go again.

[@goodoldrickets2002]

“You don’t use your resources, you don’t go to safety, you die.” *Ad that pops up right afterwards:* “TODAY IS GONNA BE A GOOD DAY!”

[@PH-wv4yv]

I got the same ad .-.

[@spacefarer400]

Get an adblocker.

[@XyzzTooCold]

Me too same ad .-. Pp

[@hotbanana442]

Same add

[@icantthinkofaname15]

Lol

[@kamwickw933]

Moral of the story: NEVER go off on your own in the wilderness, no matter how “avid” or “experienced” you are.

[@michaeldoran4367]

MASSIVELY GIRTHY KOK SEEN POKING THROUGH A TOWEL AT THE COMMUNITY POOL. THE KOK LOOKS LIKE AN ENORMOUS SNAKE WRIGGLING AROUND IN THE AMAZON JUNGLE. SPECTACULARLY HUGE GIRTHY VEINY ERECT KOK

[@mateskate2772]

@@michaeldoran4367that’s crazy

[@SauceDoe-h3z]

​@@michaeldoran4367bro

[@aragorn767]

Terrence was one of my high school friends. We would hang out and play in a jam band together. One of my KZbin videos from 2007 or 2008 has Terrence playing guitar in it. He was always very grounded and according to people who kept up with him was completely mentally stable. Him running into the woods was uncharacteristic. His father, and I as well, believe there may be foul play involved, possibly from the people he worked with. All we have was their bizarre report. The police gave up on the search way too quickly as well. I and a lot of folks that went to school with Terrence donated to his father's Go Fund Me to pay for a P.I. but I don't know what came of that. We're all still hoping for the best.

[@trishate4335]

Sorry to hear! I thought it sounded suspicious as well. They herded the search into one specific are. Misdirection at it’s finest

[@NODnuke45]

In a lot of these cases, ruling out strange inexplicable causes, it seems that unfortunately that only leaves the people who were with the persons that went missing and maybe even were supposed to be their friends as the most likely cause. Although to be fair, there are some cases where even that doesn't seem possible...

[@Mandrag0ras]

One of my suspicions too was that the crew he worked with did not tell the truth and might be somehow involved with his disappearance.

[@2lipToo]

So sorry to hear this and that still today there's no explaination.

[@wayupnorth9420]

Where exactly in Idaho did this happen, if I may ask?

[@PortalJay]

I appreciate that you don't try to make the stories stranger/creepier than they are, by adding effects etc. It really helps my anxiety

[@Em-os1yz]

Doesn’t help mine. 😔 But I will watch because he wears flannel. I CAN DO IT! FOR THE FLANNEL!

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@@Em-os1yz 🤨 stupid lol

[@haitianluv7514]

Yes u right I watch this to calm me down he just so normal casually telling the story 🦋🙌🏾💙

[@smapa1185]

Really? I feel like the very subtle background music makes it scarier.

[@hallievanoutryve3109]

Im glad there are no jump scares.

[@aleidasharp7047]

What a gift you have, such passion for storytelling. Feels like we are in the scenario! That poor like button though 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️

[@lisamiles9159]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrBallen]

Thank you!!!

[@aleidasharp7047]

Lee Jones agree!

[@pedenmk]

That's a very remote location out there. The largest nearby town is Lewiston MT.......

[@classyB100]

Right?

[@jordanalandry1866]

Keep in mind, Aaron Hedges was struggling with alcohol dependency/withdrawal, and having problems at home at the time he went on the hunt, he had been taking Anabuse, had it on him, his friends were drinking, he’d been moody argumentative and uncooperative towards his companions, it was speculated he intended to use the trip away from home to detox off alcohol in the mountains (bad idea btw). There’s a lot of very pertinent information conveniently left out of DP account of events that would explain this as not unusual at all and certainly not meeting the supposed missing 411 “criteria”. I’ve read the statements and LE reports also missing enigma did a great piece on it including the omitted and quite relevant info

[@lukelliott1]

Was this the case where intentional poaching was involved as well? There were so many fishy details in this case.

[@Pro-Deo]

Jordana Landry thanks for that info. Many if not most of these stories have to be taken with a grain of salt. Not knowing anything about this case, when I watched it I assumed Aaron must of had some major issues going on along with drugs and or alcoholism. Most things don't just happen for no reason.

[@self-righteousideologue9398]

@@Pro-Deo MrBallen tends to exaggerate stories or add details to make the story better. An example is a recent one of his podcasts I listened to where he explained what a guy was thinking up until the point he got his head blown off with a shotgun. I mean, kind of impossible to know what someone is thinking the moment they are being murdered. This is why I want to actually buy the missing 411 books. They seem interesting

[@richardjunnier2180]

The Withdrawal is a legit theory. People hallucinate, and sometimes even die, during the first 72 hours. Although, they usually wouldn't smoke. Hypothermia would also explain the boots and cloths.

[@kelleybutler9203]

Why didn’t the sheriff or even his friends mention that being a factor in the documentary, if they mentioned it David would have included it or not accepted it as a Missing 411. I’d have to see some facts about that and I can’t understand why the sheriff would cover if someone they don’t know. It’s sad but you have to use ever single fact about the person and again it’s amazing his own buddy doesn’t mention it. Maybe because he was afraid the sheriff would look but of course they would but it changes how they approach the search but David wouldn’t have covered it as a Missing 411 if he knew anything of this being true.

[@Faidrs]

This is so, so sweet you always mention animals names, count them as important in your stories, always say did they find them at the end, did they survived. Many overlook animals except if they are crucial in a story. That is so refreshing and nice of you.

[@sandythai3390]

I agree. He shows so much love for not just the human victims but the animals to.

[@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive]

Agreed.

[@GLING17]

Dogs only, though. Other animals don't matter to these dog nuts.

[@BalboaBaggins]

I wish more people would take care of pigs, cows, chickens and other livestock animals too and finally stop the speciesism.

[@braydentilby1516]

I’m guessing this is the vegan section?

[@nelliebuttercup8953]

One of the things I've learnt from listening to the dark strange and mysterious is never to leave my house again.

[@misterbobby8913]

Haha!

[@VirtualDvid]

That's when you start listening the creepy stories that happened in regular houses 👻

[@rimmelosmoloc4158]

@@VirtualDvid 😁🤣🤣

[@musicplus6306]

Until you find the stories about people found dead inside their homes after days or even months

[@kimcollins702]

Don’t go out in the woods and be very consistent with socializing with at least 1 person 😂

[@itsmeCorey]

I appreciate the fact that he always makes sure to tell us how the animals in the stories make out, so, so much.

[@LizzyArmogida]

I’m still waiting for an update on Ugly Betty and one other dog! 💔

[@NotChefCook]

Ohh YES .

[@vanessarayfox]

Agreed! I’m super sensitive to animal’s being hurt, so I have to know what happened to them!

[@mr.mcpurrz3143]

For sure . Huge props for always giving us the animals/pets info. Thank you.

[@orion8829]

the way this is phrased... lets just say it can be read in the wrong way lol

[@jeffreyshoes281]

Imagine a MrBallen David Paulides collab the world would explode

[@lisamiles9159]

SpiritOfObama I ask David Paulides this on Twitter awaiting a reply

[@evanabbott2737]

That would be awesome👍

[@margeincharge8760]

That would be amazing!!

[@SuperDiablo101]

The man running into the woods for no reason is chillingly close to that of the woman in his previous stories in headless canyon running around at night

[@rizwanansaari780]

Shit that's true

[@tieshafranzen6686]

If you ever see that in real life, try to stop them but then get the hell out!!!!

[@platinumare]

From Australia, after watching Mr Ballen, I have learnt hiking in the U.S. or Russia is very dangerous and likely to end you up as a Mr Ballen story. The first story about Aaron Hedges, I thought maybe he spotted a predator and had to go the wrong way to avoid this predator? But then why is his stuff near those people's property. It's soo weird and creepy why do these things have no explanation, it's freaking me out!

[@VirtualDvid]

I live in Oregon and we hike a lot around including Washington. It is just beautiful. I also have been in several state parks around the US. But we share the same feeling when I heard the Australian creepy stories, makes me feel I don't want to go there lol

[@StrangeDetectives]

Where Are His FEET 😭😭😭😭 GOD

[@ZettyLad]

@@StrangeDetectives What?? XDD

[@StrangeDetectives]

@@ZettyLad bro lost his feet

[@freyjaslefttoe9308]

I believe he wanted to or planned to die

[@cheesecakebandit2152]

"I just felt like running" -Forrest Gump

[@jaredneff5189]

@@alkatrazine7135 huh?

[@kjhman]

Stupid…

[@habitspinkrabbits4452]

🤣🤣🤣

[@BrothersReborn135]

I love that movie

[@mattlipnick9983]

Hahaha at first I was like huh ? And after hearing the end of the second story I was like oh I get it!!🤣

[@moonie9000]

- Guy goes missing in "the crazies". Everyone: well, that's certainly a mystery.

[@chrysalis72]

I thought the same thing lol

[@Shivver]

Hmmm i wonder why its called the crazies? PEOPLE GO CRAZY THERE

[@needy2236]

Guess you could say That story’s Crazy Haha..... I’ll leave now

[@RobloxTrueCrimeArchive]

@@needy2236 yes

[@RobloxTrueCrimeArchive]

@Old Skull ?

[@DANG19844]

I believe there is such a thing as natural confusion within the woods. I have felt it before while exploring the woods. You know where you are and how to get back but something fogs your mind and makes you curious. A strange trance like state follows if you give in to this feeling and I have found myself sort of sleep walking for awhile. Luckily I was familiar with my surroundings upon waking from this stupor. I focus on the trail and completing my journey now.

[@7Zsta]

Not dismissing it, but, am concerned. Can you talk to a doc or priest/pastor for protection? Wishing you safety and happiness ✨

[@brambleon]

Ignoring that other dumb guy, I'm from rural Ontario Canada and I've been minorly lost in say a km/2 of forest near my home. I knew if I went one way id find a farmers field, but it def took an extra bit it seemed. I cant imagine being in hundreds/thousands of kms of forest, whether I know them or not, sometimes you just get turned around in there. You just have the natural urge to keep going to find help, you may even walk in circles but you just have some drive to keep moving. And I'm sure once you understand you're truly lost, things change, and your brain does weird things to you.

[@makaveli8979]

Apparently if you turn your shirt inside out you go back to normal. Or if you take it off. But in the winter it would be much harder. Perhaps carry a sweater and put on inside out, ontop of gear. Heard this from South American cultures and South African tribes. It gets deep but I won't post here. Peace and love to all 🙏🏼

[@seadragonwitchbitch]

If youd be willing to explain more elsewhere id really appreciate it my mom taught me some of that but died before my lessons finished if thats not something youd want to do id fully understand however ​@@makaveli8979

[@hquinn8635]

If an animal freaks out that's with you: *just turn back* they sense things we can't

[@michaeldiekmann6494]

They smell other animals....before you can see them. That's all the magic.

[@AntwhaleNearfar]

*If an animal that’s with you freaks out

[@therealveridicalyt497]

@@michaeldiekmann6494 Correct, and most of them have better hearing too. So they can also hear earthquakes

[@Jenacide]

@@michaeldiekmann6494 I mean, smell is a sense

[@DaisyAndBambi]

Very smart, an example is dogs who are trained to lay and cross their paws when they sense cancer

[@noahboi8179]

These stories give me the creeps but I cant stop watching them

[@Dirtbiker463]

The weirdest part of these 411 cases is the searchers finding the persons boots / shoes... but the person is nowhere near them, sometimes even miles away without any cuts or bruises on their bare feet...

[@evanabbott2737]

There’s a case where the boots showed up in a place they already thoroughly searched....and the boots were neatly placed, VERY creepy stuff...😬

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

Indeed, this is another baffling scenario often played out in these cases.

[@jimboslicem1294]

what ever is doing this knows how to make it look like hypothermia and likes to mess with rescuers.

[@margeincharge8760]

Jimboslice m yes, like putting bodies in areas already searched numerous times

[@lilacsnroses247]

And there is often a really bad storm right after, that keeps searchers from looking for them

[@jacksonquinn2095]

I can imagine the producers “ hey terrace just jumped off the fucking cliff”

[@sintarsis]

Everyone else* “I’m sorry what?!?”

[@ShadesofJason]

That’s some movie stuff man

[@ShadesofJason]

He just uhh jumped and took off running

[@conner9399]

Or they killed him and hes at the bottom of a mineshaft

[@basic-os]

Dammit Terrace why are you running?

[@visceralization]

MrBallen: "if that's of interest to you," Me: "oh man, what's gonna happen to the Like button today."

[@mr.ballenslikebutton1373]

Same here. I’m sick and tired of it. It’s time for revenge.

[@OPW]

@@mr.ballenslikebutton1373 OH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's brilliant!!

[@xXxGordO241xXx]

@@mr.ballenslikebutton1373 😂😂😂

[@Theeditor2828]

Whether she disappeared voluntarily or involuntarily. I think Connie would be happy to know ace is alive and well

[@ianherp5678]

@Killer alpha no...

[@IDontLikeHandIes]

@@ianherp5678 no..nosioporosis

[@silverdays2909]

Of course

[@make_it_happen4real]

“Why are you still going that way” had me cracking up the way you said it and your expressions 😂

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Yeah... but my immediate response (to mind) was, "Oh... maybe the gun to the back of my head and this ugly dude who told me to keep going... I don't know." ;o)

[@theronjohnson3165]

Usually don't comment on videos but I must say thank you for what you do. The way you tell a story is amazing and captivating.

[@d_irvee]

The like button needs a vacation at this point

[@marieh7861]

No! Nevvvvveeerrr! 😂😂

[@kitsulu8576]

Never! I like hearing what he comes up with 😂. It's going to get eviscerated till it's non-existent 😁

[@brianisakowitz6765]

D_IRVEE yea i want him to be creative with the like button

[@aethernaut736]

I’m pretty sure the like button is just a corpse at this point

[@Microwave414]

Like button needs a restraining order.

[@NiaJustNia]

In the first story, I'm fairly sure Aaron was being held at gunpoint when he radioed in and just hoped his friends would realise how weird it would be for him to just take a wrong turn. I'm pretty sure his things being left in different places was the killer messing with people to taunt them

[@bugglemagnum6213]

And the missing feet ... How else would that happen?

[@NiaJustNia]

@@bugglemagnum6213 If it's someone with something against hikers in particular, taking the feet as their "trophy" definitely makes sense

[@TheDoomBlueShell]

@@bugglemagnum6213 The missing feet I think is normal, he was without boots so for an animal is the easiest place to chew on and rip it from his main body

[@NativeWarrior88]

Sounds very plausible to me. Had to have been someone that knew that he had all these supply drops all over the place! I feel like he was trying to tell them, using code, that he was in danger and needed help. I definitely feel like it was foul play. Although, it does beg the question, if he had a gun, why wouldn't he use it of he was being harmed? And I would say that it's impossible to walk 6 miles in 2 feet of snow with no shoes on! Hypothermia would literally make it impossible! I think be was murdered and his friends were possibly in on it!

[@Smallestpenis]

@@NativeWarrior88 his friends playing a part makes zero sense. Honestly if you’re going to say something that far out of left field, you need to have something to back it up. And no. A “ gut feeling” doesn’t count.

[@saraziegler7786]

Mr. Ballen's ability to storytell in extreme weather conditions in nothing but a plaid shirt, backwards cap, and (I assume) an American flag spedo? is truly astounding. 5 stars all around! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@paulhammer4941]

Aaron taking his boots off is probably the most easily explained part. You’ve been to survival school you should k is that if it’s freezing out and you step in a puddle or otherwise get your feet soaked your first priority becomes getting them dry. His boots were found neatly placed next to a fire. Just sounds like an outdoorsman who got his feet wet and was trying to avoid hypothermia. As for why he left without the boots maybe he got scared away by a large animal.

[@MrBallen]

Smart thinking paul!!

[@Cr1ms0nRav3n]

“Large Animal” that brought back his stuff and placed them neatly, even taking a sip from his energy drink, and then later his remains are found. People are too afraid to say it, because society has been conditioned to laugh at who the culprits are. Just say it. It’s starts with a “B”. I can tell you this. The forest park rangers and the government know exactly what’s up. They know what’s out there, but they stay hush hush.

[@garythompson5316]

Cr1ms0nRav3n you’re right. That’s exactly what it was and this happened in many cases! I think some of them are hunting us for sport and then taunting us in some kind of sick game

[@Cr1ms0nRav3n]

@@garythompson5316 I won’t rule out the idea that some would do it for sport. But I’m of the opinion that many of them are just extremely territorial and don’t tolerate humans in their area. A lone hiker, camper, hunter out smack in the middle of no where neck deep in the woods is extremely at risk. Some are opportunistic and will nab someone including a child if it’s within range and it can get away undetected. These things are masters of the forests. They hunt deer and elk with their bare hands, which are some of the most skittish and hyper aware animals out there, so a mastery of stealth and agility is fundamental. Human targets are child’s play to them. They return the clothes or items not so much to taunt I don’t think but also more so as a warning, to stay out. There are stories of folks who have been chased out or have barely escaped them. They don’t mess around.

[@221BBakerStreet]

@@Cr1ms0nRav3n If, when you say it starts with B, you're referring to Bigfoot then I think you're on the wrong track. Bigfoot doesn't explain the sudden changes in weather or dogs not being able to pick up a scent. Or people being found in places already searched and in places that would be impossible for them to reach. Why are just about every 411 case where the persons' body is found they are found without boots or shoes? Or their boots are often the only thing they do find. Why are their bodies almost always found in or near bodies of water? And 411 cases are happening in urban areas as well as forests. Not too many Bigfoot (bigfeet? bigfoots?) found in down town Chicago. I believe that whatever is taking these people, it is, for now at least, far beyond our understanding. But I'm less interested in finding out about who than I am about why??? ...

[@teyoungblood4415]

I've caught up on every single piece of content from Mr. Ballen AND listened to his podcast... I'm addicted. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Thanks Mr. Ballen for what you do. Now to wait for more content... patiently. 😬

[@Siicksadw0rld]

Off topic: your backdrops/backgrounds are absolutely phenomenal, and probably the most well made, realistic ones I've ever seen.

[@snaxalotl3021]

Agreed like wtf

[@woobieweibel]

Agreed, he does pick out cool images for his green screen backgrounds.

[@GannAinm]

I've an idea about Connie's radio call. She was approached by an unknown person, took out her gun and put it under her jacket close to hand as a precaution. She was probably conversing with her attacker, felt something off, but not quite to the extent that she could pull a gun on someone who might well just be a lost hiker, and began holding the call button with the radio down at waist level, hence the muffled signal. Likely hoping for a call back to spook the attacker by making it known there are hunters nearby. Then she got got.

[@IDontLikeHandIes]

That's actually a good theory, leaves more questions than answers though 🤔

[@robertforster8984]

Maybe, she was being attacked by a bear.

[@lavenderpants8695]

I do that with my radio when I'm in shaky situations. Great theory. I'm starting to think there are unknown serial killers that just stick to the dense forests. They are probably avid adventurers themselves and study the terrain to be able to move and conceal people quickly.

[@marionkozakiewicz1032]

Mmmnnnnn n Mnmn

[@dragzgaming]

@@lavenderpants8695 like ex navy seals that's interested in the dark and mysterious

[@reppinthat2072]

I feel bad for all the people that have gone through these experiences, but thank them greatly for the stories they create

[@jennifersanders3258]

Thank you for acknowledging these missing people.

[@byewhobayou8868]

Am I the only one that has noticed a glaring similarity in a lot of these missing hiker/camper stories, that their belongings and supplies are always found “neatly placed” in an area that doesn’t make sense way away from their bodies? It’s way too similar in way too many separate cases with people that never knew each other to just be a coincidence. IMO.

[@crystalmart824]

I was thinking the saaame thing... Too weiiird.. Just curious too, Prob I silly question lol I'm not in the internet loop..what does IMO mean?🤔🤷🙃😅

[@byewhobayou8868]

@@crystalmart824 It’s not a dumb question. IMO means In My Opinion.

[@Zorro9129]

Might be a common symptom with mental illness.

[@ΚώσταςΡωμ]

Sometimes people who feel way to cold they think they feel way to cold and remove their clothes. If I removed my boots because of the hit I would nicely place them.

[@grimmsshenanigansproductions]

Ive thought this as well

[@BGRDJ]

So is no one gonna talk about how he used ice poseidon as the thumbnail lmao

[@slickbrick9443]

LMAO i just realized that after u said that 🤣🤣

[@ryanmonahan2497]

Lmao that's the whole reason I clicked on the video.

[@107Killer1]

cx

[@tieshafranzen6686]

Montana girl here. I grew up playing in the woods. As kids we grew up on my cousins ranch and would literally go miles away from the house, exploring till the sun went down. This ranch just so happens to be very close to the crazies. I have always heard how rough it is up there and I my uncle has some stories about spending time in the crazies. There is definitely some odd and paranormal activity here. You have to listen to your gut. Get out of there if you have to. Read the signs.

[@charliebacca8170]

"If it's not raining, it's not training and if it's not snowing, I'm not going... Keep up the great story telling Mr Ballen... BRAVO bud!

[@shannonwilson3019]

As a former indantrtman reading this...eww..but yes, bravo sir

[@charliebacca8170]

@@shannonwilson3019?? Walta 😂

[@Teraperf]

You’re one of my favourite people on KZbin man, I hope you know we love and appreciate you here.

[@Tr1Hard777]

It's ice Poseidon in the thumbnail. Lmao

[@motion1095]

I noticed that too LOL

[@anorthernwind7279]

Yeah lmao

[@texxiz5136]

Just looking thru comments to see if anyone else noticed ggs

[@TheBossman2321]

If this guy doesn’t watch ice it makes it soooo much funnier. Lmaooo wish ice saw this

[@yagizkaraman5040]

cx

[@lunaazul3000]

So, I'm also fascinated by these stories and agree there is something beyond sinister from the way all the objects end up being found and placed as if someone wanted them to be found and that's only after search and rescue have definitively searched thoroughly in the same place during the active search. It's all a mystery but my first theory is that it is human but with a macabre intention to commit these abductions, which is what I want to call them, crimes of opportunity. These cases show sinister similarities and it goes beyond frontiers. The two girls from the Netherlands that got lost in Panama are a great example. They disappeared then their clothing and belongings started to show up months after, neatly on rocks, the backpack nice and tidy and on the side of a walking trail, with a camera tucked inside and all the items as if someone had kept them out of the elements all that time. The Panamenian jungle! if you leave anything, tennis shoes, clothing, items, everything will be rained on and muddied from the frequent rain storms and currents that converge on any kind of surface or terrain even common thoroughfares and streets, imagine a backpack with electronics and clothing clean and dry after months of being out in a thick jungle where they supposedly got lost. They found a boot belonging to one of the girls whith her foot still in there and one other piece of thigh or hip bone. People say a savage animal, I say nonsense, I'm from Panama and the only predator which would be capable of this would be a leopard, and they are extremely shy and you'd be lucky to have caught a glance of one, they fear humans. So many of these 411 stories involve strong experienced outdoorsmen whose bones are found in tiny pieces, inside their shoes, and their pants and clothing just sitting like the missing person just melted into them. None of this makes sense unless there are individuals out there who share a particular appetite to commit these crimes and then enjoy the mystery they leave behind for others to find. I really think it's human made. I would never go in a small group or alone into a wilderness, never.

[@lilofuntime6323]

Everybody gangsta until someone is a “avid hunter”

[@Ilovepoopin]

I love hunting and being outdoors but all these avid outdoors people are freaking crazy!

[@kendrahenderson4619]

Come up with a new comment

[@husky2674]

@@kendrahenderson4619 why you hating man

[@kendrahenderson4619]

@@husky2674 everyone posts the same comment. Come up with your own dude

[@firehelix4234]

An*

[@datruthseeka2144]

If you have ever been hiking down a steep trail or open mountain, you know that when you start to go downward and build up speed, you are out of control: what looks like "sprinting", IS NOT VOLUNTARY, and cannot stop. I believe that his speed and direction were way beyond his control, and he ended up somewhere below, but like in a tree top or burrowed in the ground, crevice, i.e.... His body is close to the scene, but so strangely configured. Prayers to Dad, Mom and family and friends.

[@misterbobby8913]

Interesting point. He was most likely falling down rather than springing. My condolences 🙏

[@MattBG67]

If that was true, he'd eventually stop, he wouldn't go on running infinitely till they give up on going after him.

[@marcusreimann752]

@@MattBG67 the thought is he probably crashed down pretty much "in plaine sight but hidden" but they did not see him there because they assumed he ran further into the forest. I like the hypothesis

[@shannonlenz1098]

I think this is very probable. Great hypothesis.

[@razorfett147]

Except...there was some distance between the foot of the hill and the treeline. If he was going downhill unintentionally, he wouldve wiped out at the bottom in plain sight. Instead...he kept running and went into the forest despite ppl calling after him. They actually were able to track his path all the way to a nearby roadway, but the trail went cold at that point

[@robindepner9168]

Thanks for promoting David's books. He has worked so hard investigating these stories.

[@juh_crispy690]

Am I the only one that listens to these laying down with my eyes closed

[@trustystream2846]

No it's the only way I can go to sleep

[@juh_crispy690]

Lol yeah

[@paulabuck5976]

U r not

[@ProdbySHAUDY]

Y’all weird

[@sleepy4016]

I do that to fall asleep

[@CUXOB2]

Me and my parents once experienced a reality split, i was with my mother while my father went ahead down a trail in the woods to see if it leads somewhere. Then my mother starts walking the other way, i thought she was just stretching her legs while we wait for him to return. But she just keeps going, like 200 meters, until i run after her to ask where she is going. And she tells me she 100% saw father going back up, like he returned, meaning the trail is no good and we should go back. But my father never went back, he was down the trail yelling that we should come down to him.

[@LexipMedia]

This supports my main suspicion in these cases , that there is something in some forests -- a toxic biting insect, a plant that releases some chemical, geomagnetic forces that are unknown, a reclusive telepathic animal species -- but something that temporarily confuses folks, turns off part or all of their rational mind or at least distracts it for long enough to disorient them. I'd even go so far as to say Little Green Men (ie. aliens) except it has got to be something not nearly as obvious as a "gray alien" or we would have seen some clear evidence of it previously.

[@therealflame5486]

@@LexipMedia very interesting, I thought of something like that but not as detailed as your theory

[@LexipMedia]

@@therealflame5486 Yeah, I deliberately threw in a few possibilities I don't really believe in, such as telepathy, just to stir the pot.

[@yaznarerkinsaw1914]

@@LexipMedia Thats why fairies were believed to be real, as they would make you confused if you stumbled across their territory. People would supposedly walk into rivers and drown because of some type of "spell" or confusion.

[@LexipMedia]

@@yaznarerkinsaw1914 So are fairies real? Are they in the US, not just in Ireland? Or is it some chemical / pheromone / microorganism / some other phenomenon in the woods that can disorient people? Some day perhaps everyone in the woods can wear a bodycam that is used like an airplane black box - only accessed after a disaster - and uploads to the "cloud" in real time. Until then, we just guess, right?

[@bumblebeeman2103]

I will say, as someone who has a great sense of direction I don't really know what it would be like to get lost in the woods. But as for the people who lose people after looking away for a couple seconds, I totally feel for em. I've lost my younger siblings in stores before in the same fashion and luckily for me I find them either in another isle or back with their parents somehow. It's always super scary when someone just dissappear, especially if it's on u, but it is waaaayyyyy easier to lose someone like that than you might think, especially with kids

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I've always found it impossible to get lost, too. Doesn't matter if I'm in the woods, or in a big, complicated building. Could be subconsciously keeping track, I suppose. My wife was originally from the Chicago area, and went to IIT for her first year in college. We drove up there, she knew where she was going, but still got lost. Eventually, I took over driving, and we were where we were going within five minutes...and I'd never been in that part of Chicago before. I think some of us are just lucky to have a great sense of direction.

[@SS-jb8wj]

Sometimes when you say I looked away for only a minute, can actually be longer. Especially when he was watching what his other son was doing.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

I think that would be the hardest thing about getting lost in the woods would be the fact I never get lost and would likely not know how to navigate (pun intended) that situation well. Add in having to get over the frustration of letting such a blunder happen in the first place. Not to mention that getting lost might've meant that I was in a very incapacitated or compromised mental/ physical state to begin with. That's the thing about getting lost: it doesn't just happen like a video game spawn; it develops gradually with a lot of fog of war going on.

[@dani3670]

@@TheEudaemonicPlague I am the same way. Well, I thought I was, turns out it's only when I can actually see surroundings and not in a forest. I've been completely confident in my location in the woods and have ended up miles away from where I thought. I've seen a study where they put GPS trackers on people in the woods, with no map or trail, just asking them to walk a straight line and majority of the time, they walked in a circle.

[@EPBF1]

Takes only a sec ...at a pool In the time I bent down to pick up a towel my son disappeared luckily for me& my son I immediately looked at the pool & I caught his head come up then back down in water....he couldn't swim but he had jumped in pool in just the time I bent down every time I think how insanely quick he moved from my side. A pool full of people nobody noticed him drowning I quickly jumped in pulled him out ....no body noticed...it took seconds for this to happens..seconds...never take your eyes off your kids.....if there toddlers use a teather bc they run off....there minds are always going and they are impulsive and will run off at the first impulse of seeing anything that draws there attention....if you got kids you should never be apart especially if camping but actually anywhere you are....kids easily get into trouble require a lot of vegilience

[@yvngtonyb]

You hear the story with Terrence and almost imagine some weird foul play where he was never even in the forest to begin with, was killed by a member(s) of his crew earlier in the day, who then texted his family saying he’d be coming home in order to be able to tell it to police that that’s what he’d been saying, and there would be “proof”. Story makes literally no sense.

[@kendraheard8240]

I agree lol story sound super stupid how did he get to the bottom of a 15 feet cliff with no injuries 🙄🙄🙄🤔

[@jessikajane4967]

Yup, this sounds like members of the crew off'd him 🥺😥

[@kristinsevin]

See, I agree with this. This story from the producers just doesn't sit well with me. 1. What made you run after him rather than assuming he might return from whatever he was planning to do or wherever he was planning to go in the forest? Also, most people hesitate to contact authorities so instantaneously as they did because we never really want to believe that our loved ones could be in danger. Especially if they left by their own choice. Which is what they're saying he did. So why assume he wouldn't come back? What made them believe he was in danger in the short amount of time they claim it took them to run after him and come back? And what made you run after him in the first place? What danger did you assume he was in if he just left on his own for no apparent reason? Must have been some reason, at least a big enough one for you to automatically assume the worst. Idk. It just bothers me.

[@brambleon]

Nahh, I can't believe this theory, we know nothing of the "cliff" he "jumped" off of. Sounds more like a steep hill, how else would they be able to go after him? He wasn't enjoying the job(and possibly the life he had), and we know nothing of his mental state. Maybe he just broke then and there and decided to "escape" into the woods thinking somehow it would "free" him. @kristinsevin saying, "most people hesitate to contact authorities so instantaneously as they did because we never really want to believe that our loved ones could be in danger". This is a professional film crew, not a bunch of random civilians or a family on vacation. They don't want the lawsuits or damage control for a nature doc. He could have been in mental distress and wanted out of life. I saw a theory by someone who lived nearby in one of the comments about this one where radiation and such was common in this area, so maybe that fucked with his head as well.

[@Max-zw3ut]

Yeah you bring up a good point that people perhaps don't consider. These people who disappear were last with close friends and family, but who are we to put them above suspicion. If I wanted somebody Gone, I'd invite them out on an extensive secluded hike, then conspire with a third party (hired killer, or dirty cop) to do the job

[@JocelynRey]

one thing i’ve noticed while listening to these stories is how common it is to find the missing person’s shoes placed neatly somewhere, and often undisturbed. makes me wonder whether it’s just a very common occurrence that many humans do when lost, or whether some Thing places it there as a sort of sign that we’ve yet to figure out.

[@Alejandro-mu6ot]

A lot of the cases that happen in the snow are because “Paradoxical” Undressing this happens in severe cases of hypothermia because they become confused and as a result undress.

[@eatingwetfries4285]

Maybe they get so exhausted from walking/running for so long that their feet get sore, hot, and sweaty so they take a break to to untie their shoes. As for why they don’t put the shoes back on maybe they got ambushed by a predator or something when their guard was at their lowest.

[@briscoesjug1026]

@@eatingwetfries4285 this one was in 2ft of snow though. I figure hypothermia and delusional

[@LexipMedia]

Google "Jason Rother". He is a 19-yr-old Marine who got lost in the desert and took off his clothes and folded them neatly before he died. Same this as the forest cases, only with desert and heatstroke.

[@LexipMedia]

@Jinx Adair It's selection bias. Animals DO take it away, and fairly soon. We only find the ones that are recent that animals haven't gotten to yet. The others are entirely gone.

[@Thebiggdill]

I introduced your channel to my college age son, and he has binge watched all your vids. He tells all his college buds about you so no doubt your channel will continue to explode. Keep up the good work.

[@curiouscuriouser2670]

Oh no! When will they all study? Grades will plummet in THAT institute of learning. 🤔😉👋🇦🇺💕

[@Kay-cp8tg]

That was really sweet of you! 😄

[@vision4534]

I see the rate if people having nightmares increase

[@Thor_the_Doge]

This seems like an interesting channel, KZbin recommendations finally stepping up their game

[@808ct]

Indeed.

[@WhoisKell]

I know right!

[@deeriggs3319]

It's a awesome channel!

[@sherryowens8251]

I introduced my 83 year old mom to your stories. She's hooked, but she won't watch you at night. She loves your stories as I do.

[@dangernoodle9961]

one thing to keep in mind regarding these cases: People suffering from severe hypothermia often reach a point where their brain is barely functioning. Along with things like paradoxical undressing, this can lead them to not process important information. In some situations, people have walked right across a road when lost in the woods and severaly hypothermic. They don't think to follow the road or wait by the road for help - they just keep moving forward. This explains why someone wouldn't recognize that they're at the edge of someone's property, for example. This doesn't explain all of these bizarre cases but it can shed some light on some of them.

[@kitfisto1827]

Yep. Funny how Paulides never once gives this any meaningful consideration. Wouldnt sell books I guess. And yet it is the most logical and scientific explanation.

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@@kitfisto1827 he does mention it by the way, but he doesn't believe that's the cause. I dont either. Maybe look more into all these disappearances. His books are great also.

[@znahejebe4063]

@@kitfisto1827 and no, it’s really not. Considering the man knew the crazies inside and out, he wouldn’t have gotten that bad hypothermia THAT quickly to the point he made such an obvious error with the path. I think a more likely option Is that the man was killed, and someone stole his radio and dumped his body. It would also explain the thermos and energy drink facing the residence. That wasn’t the hiker that was drinking from the thermos

[@millej11]

@@kitfisto1827 funny how you get hypothermia while hiking in the summer

[@rhondaalbertson7524]

The first story the weather on the crazies was warm and the trail was clear and visible. It wasn’t until a few days into the search that a bad storm rolled in. A lot of these stories are of people going missing during the summer in warm weather. So hyperthermia is not the cause. Plus it takes time for hyperthermia to set in, it’s not instant.

[@IronDogger]

David From Missing 411 mentioned to not buy his book from Amazon or anywhere other than his site because they charge way more for it than he does.

[@gaddyric]

That second story about Aaron reminds me very much of one of your later stories about two hikers going missing in South America. The clothes and backpack left out as obvious clues. The remains showing up seemingly out of nowhere.

[@wavular]

Sounds like he was drying his boots and then was either attacked or forced to walk or run away from whatever was by that campfire.

[@micahsewlal3342]

that's posable but there was snow on the ground so I think they would have seen tracks

[@jedi7up]

But they never found his feet.

[@angelagray8355]

And literally ran his feet off. Lol

[@mindofhoes5821]

@@angelagray8355 they prolly froze off

[@tedandersson9214]

@@micahsewlal3342 it might had landed new snow after he left the area

[@TheKkf1015]

"I turned my back for a minute and my child was gone!" begins to obsessively watch my kid 24/7

[@LuvBorderCollies]

The truth is that two minutes is like the 2 beers drunk drivers claim. Its usually more than 2 minutes. People tend to minimize their mistakes.

[@yorben1522]

@@LuvBorderCollies yh but in this case you cant blame the father. like i dont understand how a child goes missing on a really small island and is never to be found again ....

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@yorben1522 You pretty much can. Just because its a small island doesnt mean its completely safe.

[@yorben1522]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow yh maybe ,but it makes it so much harder so

[@playdoh2143]

Yep that was me! I never took my eyes off of him. Now hes 18 and I purposely look away but when I look back hes ALWAYS THERE! 😉

[@kingphoenix418]

This is crazy because I went to high school with Terrence. We've had a several classes together. I didnt really know him well because I was an outcast. I never spoke to anyone but he was friends with most people in our classes. It's hard for me to believe he just freaked out one day for no reason... I think he was running from someone.

[@SuperDiablo101]

Or something

[@kathmandoozle]

People have mental illnesses that can cause this type of behavior

[@BostonsF1nest]

Or he had a psychotic break

[@aragorn767]

Same. I went to Flowers, too. I played in a cover band with him on weekends.

[@j.h.4711]

@@aragorn767 me too i was always in the bathrooms sellin bud

[@darksprout4320]

Lol ICE POSEIDON in the thumbnail is so accurate

[@OfficialPunker]

Lmao of course he’s used In a horror photo

[@tanner882]

😮

[@Biggz831]

Lol I was looking for this

[@RosinGoblin]

PAUL DENINO

[@littrandemakerjovy3770]

El goblino is everywhere lul

[@Dudz_007]

I’m addicted to Dave’s 411 cases! I love the Dave never supplies any of his personal theories to what could be causing these weird cases. Just 100% facts!

[@bradenkoepp8320]

This guy is so awesome! Most other youtubers when the get some success they’re content goes down in quality, not all, but most. This guy brings consistently entertaining content, comes up with a like button joke every vid, and takes suggestions for stories! Can’t wait for the future of this channel.

[@MrBallen]

thank you!!!

[@thenarrator994]

I live a few hours east, on the east coast of Vancouver Island, which is channeled by many islands and the Rocky Mountains in the back drop. Tofino is located on the west coast where it is complete dense forests, the open ocean and is known as a “beach town” where people all over the world will go to surf, enjoy local businesses, and stay at the resorts. It is very small and has vast sandy beaches referred to as “long beach” and connects to another small town called “Ucluelet”. The trail the boy mysteriously vanished from is a well marked walking trail, that’s fenced around to stop you from walking off parts of the cliffs, and has trail markers everywhere. I’ve walked those trails many times. I’ve never heard of the missing boy story until watching this episode months back. Never thought I’d see the day where a missing 411, let alone another story takes place where I’m from. Half of Vancouver island is rural nature, and I’m not surprised if there’s more mysterious things that happen here.

[@mandofoe7447]

I’ve noticed a common thread with many of your 411 stories and that is normal people with no history of mental illness whatsoever who just suddenly feel compelled to run off or drive off or walk off into the wilderness. Like something grabs ahold of their minds and tells them to go and they do. What is that? What is this force that is telling them to come? And why? Hundreds of people are disappearing every year into the wilderness and not a single one makes it back to tell the story? Unreal and scary

[@rememberussliberty1822]

Wendigo.

[@mariajuana9572]

The military have sonic weapons that can blast you and only you, or groups if they so wish that will make you lose you shit drop everything and run.

[@katrinasunboxing7546]

Some children say that a relative in a cave or house takes care of them by feeding and keeping them out of elements. Do they ever gi back and look for these caves and cabins? I'd like to know what they found if they did. It's very strange but it's been going on for a very long time. Hundreds of years apparently. Maybe some kind of natural frequency emitted from earth effects certain ppl differently. I dont know. More money and time needs devoted to find out.

[@Rougetbat]

@@katrinasunboxing7546 I'd assume it's prob a coping mechanism honestly. A person who is scared shitless may start to see things. There was that one story of the kid in the mountain too who asked "did you see a bear?" and then disappeared. Saying they heard "childish laughter/excited screaming" sounds like the kid got what he wanted and that was the end of him.

[@aflawedhuman2046]

I was just in U.P in Michigan, Hiawatha national forest...sometimes the beauty of nature compels you to just keep walking and exploring...I ended up walking 5.2 miles that day..Maybe this can happen to others idk

[@kristidaemon4709]

What I took away from all these stories: never go into the wilderness alone... even if you've done it before, just stop, before it's too late and next episode will be about you, haha

[@philsbootleg]

Even if you do go missing in the woods it’s extremely rare these things get documented nowadays you will never end up in one of these stories even if you try

[@jamesrobiscoe1174]

Think of Hansel and Gretel.

[@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436]

🤝🏻👍🏻💯

[@jessehardin8500]

I'm to the point I've seen so many of these videos everytime I do something stupid. Mr ballen pops into my head and narrates the events leading up to the event and how my imagination plays out the worst case scenario

[@jacknimsi6221]

Dude do you know how rare it actually is to go missing? Millions of people go to the woods every year and only a few hundred go missing. Stop stirring up fear

[@forgottenfurbabies3315]

I truly believe there are portals all through the forests of the world as well as in populated areas that we can just walk into without knowing which lead into an alternate dimension. I believe they open at any given time and then close afterwards so anyone walking into one can’t just walk back the way they came and get out unless they happen to find another open portal by accident.

[@MelissaEllenn]

I'm curious with Terrence's case how credible the Dr. Phil interviews were. I know he can be really misinformed at times and the interview only included opinions from Terrence's family and friends and the sheriff. The day he disappeared he told his father he was going to leave the film shoot 2 wks earlier than planned which seemed out of character and they questioned if it was even him who sent the text. Terrence's father on the show claimed that his clothes were folded and seemed unworn & there were no dirty clothes (besides muddy shoes) even though he was there for 4 days before running down that hill. It doesn't make a lot of sense that he'd have muddy shoes but not muddy pants, so what happened to his dirty clothes? The crew also spent a lot of time telling his family about Terrence's poor work performance which his past coworkers say doesn't sound like him and it's a weird thing to focus on when he's missing. The missing dirty clothes has bothered me.

[@slothking3756]

Definitely feels like foul play

[@giftedfox4748]

It is very strange with how it went down. What could of happen is that the crew working with Terrence didn't like him because he was moving high in the job faster than normal. That or they felt like he was too snobby. With Terrence stating he wasn't looking forward to this trip tells me he knew the people he'll be working with and knew they hated him. Knowing the trip is going to be horrible by interacting with these people must of been painful since Idaho is a very beautiful state. My best guess if you want to find him, look in the nearby mines. Only places the search teams didn't look into.

[@TheAndy675]

​@@giftedfox4748 That is a really weak motive for murder if that is what you are implying. The 11 man film crew all had the same story its incredibly unlikely they killed him and covered it up. More than likely he had some kind of pyschotic episode brought on by mental illness or medication then died some time after running off.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

@@TheAndy675 There's another comment from someone who allegedly was a high school friend of Terrance. He or she says Terrance was very grounded and stable, with no mental health issues. Fwiw

[@TheAndy675]

@@sitcomchristian6886 Mental health issues can be kept hidden or brought on at a later date though. Im not denying it isnt possible it was foul play but it definitely isnt the most likely scenario. there is no motive and eleven seperate people all having the same exact story and there never being any slip ups later on is extemely unlikely.

[@11jhubbard]

Best part of my day🙂

[@arrowvr2316]

Same

[@ColtRaids]

Same

[@annajones7239]

Mine too!!

[@alexdominic3119]

Yep!

[@eliottgould1971]

Same

[@Dario.991]

including goblin mode Ice Poseidon in the thumbnail is hilarious 😂

[@swob8407]

I feel bad for the like button at this point he is just being abused

[@randomroblox7042]

Poor like button

[@projectpuppy.3443]

28k people just threw a frag grenade at the like button, pretty sure he died..

[@daniellehyatt3733]

😂😂😂😂

[@anxiousghost4939]

Your profile picture is amazing

[@redfog42]

I concur.

[@CogentConsult]

Aaron was a victim of hypothermia (I’ve had it, and it makes your brain absolutely stupid). He stopped at the cliff, not feeling cold at all (due to hypothermia), build a fire and took off his boots because he felt warm. Feeling warm, he decided to get up and go for a walk. When you have hypothermia, you can’t feel your extremities, so walking in snow in stocking feet or bare feet is not a problem (I know, I’ve had hypothermia...and survived). So he just kept walking - because hypothermia made his brain completely unreasonable. When he saw that clearing and the farmhouse below, he sat down at the edge of that tree line, took off his back pack, opened his thermos, and sat down to “hunt.” Remember, the blood has been pulled from your extremities in order to keep your core warm. And your thoughts are not thoughts of a normal human being - it’s like you’ve had a lobotomy; you really can’t think rationally at all. So, he sat there, enjoying the sights and the rest, when a grizzly bear came up from behind him and grabbed him, dragged him that distance, then promptly ate his frozen feet because they were exposed. After which, the bear was scared away and didn’t finish his meal.

[@captainalie9264]

wow

[@flemmingborgstrm6712]

That sounds right

[@flemmingborgstrm6712]

Youre right

[@flemmingborgstrm6712]

Its like diversickness The brain dont work

[@madybo1176]

This makes alot of sense. I live in Wisconsin and I have hunted in the cold. You can easily go from just fine to survival mode even in a very close proximity to safety

My first thought with the kid is that someone snatched him. Just because everyone in the town knows each other doesn't mean that one of the townspeople might not have their secrets. I think it was Jeffrey Dahmer's father who said something to the effect of, "It's shocking how much one human can hide from another." Also, I agree with the commenter who pointed out what a poor sense of time people have. The father may not have realized how long he and his other son were looking away. Ugh. This is exactly why I get so stressed when I watch my brother's kids for him.

[@A-bit-Shifty]

The insane thing about the arron story is that, the whole area where they were searching was sharp rocks that weren't set, it was a dangerous place to walk but how he made it 11 miles as the crow flies through that terrain without boots is baffling

[@winstonknowitall4181]

He probably had spare boots in a backpack.

[@andrelissiman]

Probably how he lost his feet.

[@elaves_png]

*aaron wrong lettee r fam

[@coletoombs7337]

The breathes and body movements makes these feel like the cool uncle telling war stories that everyone loves instead of it sounding like a lecture that you have to study for it

[@zarleewoodland]

So many of these involve shoes or boots being taken off. How weird!

[@temporal_paradox]

Hypothermia is a hell of a drug

[@codeXenigma]

@@temporal_paradox if you were in a cold environment and started to feel hot. You would know it was an illusion and know the worst thing you could do, would be to remove any clothing. Most of these cases are experienced hikers, how did they not know this.

[@temporal_paradox]

@@codeXenigma It's not always that simple. Hypothermia is from a drop in _core body temperature_ - it's not just a bit of frostbite on your limbs. It causes confusion, memory loss, slurred speech, etc. People who are suffering from it have actually been mistaken as being drunk. It's entirely possible that they genuinely thought they were hot, overexertion is also a very real concern in the cold as sweating (and being wet in general) is _extremely_ dangerous. If they even were thinking about their training at all at that point then they may have simply been ironically trying to avoid a dangerous situation by shedding layers.

[@biggdogg99848]

Nothing to do with hypothermia this has happened in hot climates as well its extremely strange mind boggling actually

[@MrXaeb]

There are a few reasons to remove your boots. One simple explanation is your feet are extremely cold. Anyone who has spent time in a cold environment will have experienced having their feet aching horribly from being too cold. This can be from feet sweating during exertion and then becoming very cold when stopping movement, slowing blood to your extremities. I personally have experienced this. I'd remove my boots and socks and rub my feet trying to get blood flowing to stop the pain on winter hunting trips or snowmobiling as a young man before learning the proper footwear to avoid this. Hypothermia can be a cause. This usually involves blood being pumped to the capillaries in the skin's surface in an attempt to warm the body. It often makes people feel very hot and they'll strip down which, of course, exacerbates the hypothermia. Another reason is getting your boots wet inside. If your feet are wet and you happen to be standing in snow they will get extremely cold, very fast. Getting them off is crucial to avoiding frostbite. I always carry a dry pair of wool socks that is excellent at wicking away moisture and wear waterproof gore-tex boots when in the wilderness. The gore-tex membrane is waterproof but allows your feet to breathe so they don't sweat as much. Aside from the hypothermia, though, I can't imagine why people leave their boots after removing them. Any experienced outdoorsman would know that even if you suspect you're becoming hypothermic you're going to need those boots and clothing to make it very far. Perhaps hypothermic delirium is the reason they leave their clothing behind but if they're delirious, why are their clothes and boots always so neatly folded and arranged?

[@peacefulteacher4785]

You need to do more of the 411 stories! You tell them best. These stories are accelerating in occurrence, which is alarming. More people need to know the danger out there

[@heehoopeanut6160]

I just love how slightly unprofessional you say "he took of his boots!" Like, this whole video you are very professional, you're telling the story very clinically, and then you just go "he took. OFF. his boots!!!!!!!" I enjoy that small burst of confusion immensely