Unveiling Masculinity: Women Talk All Things Men, From Their Style to Their Sexuality

[@goombakiwi]

11:15 "The lack of crying...I think..you can't really know them(men)" That is exactly your opportunity to know them(men) and you completely missed it. The moment you (woman) cry and he doesn't; you categorize him as unsympathetic and heartless. He apparently has something wrong with him. I've been in accident situations and had to tell someone to take the hysterical bawling woman away from the scene, while I'm trying to maintain a level head and deal with the victim. You preach that you want men to show more emotion, yet you will look at men as weak and not a viable partner if they do.

[@onee]

JamesClerk Maxwell You're a fucking moron.

[@blankettheif]

@@jamesclerkmaxwell2401 Female crying certainly is not PRIMARILY a tool, it can be used as a tool, by heartless or insecure women, but to brand us all like that is naive and/or ignorant. Empathy can also be manipulated in the same manner, but the basic biological function is to create bonding between groups for stability, weather or not that is relatively good or bad is an ethical question that would take way too long. On the contrary, I have found many men have their unstable egos thrive when they can be the knight in shining armour for a female victim, and there is a reason there is a guttural response to a woman in distress from men who could protect her, and that again can be manipulated but you are being very basic with your premise.

[@arquimedesamaya5650]

Just wonderful, I've been looking for "best way to talk to a girl" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Ronradoon Desirable Catch - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my co-worker got great success with it.

[@nuhaakmel663]

if you think that that then it is horrible and inhumane for you but you should't put all men in that box of not being able to cry everyone should be able to cry, laugh, feel anger, happiness and sadness o matter what gender they identify, or whether their makeup is XY or XX because that is just human. And also I am a woman, and I am romantically attracted to a man who is able to express their feelings and if they are not comfortable with that it is ok with me to, but what I'm saying is, just because you feel that you are viewed as weak when showing your emotion and self to a woman who you trust with your feelings or to anyone who cares then that is you dont put other people in that box of bein 'weak' or not viable because that is very untrue and you point of view doen't need to affect anyone else's point of view also i am reassuring you there are women who like a man who shows their feelings and emotions.

[@dbrown5784]

Men do not cry because the world doesn't give a damn and we realize that. At best, women loose respect for us on a subconscious level.

[@mikem6176]

3:30 “I’m so, like, liberated that I’m totally useless and not contributing to this relationship.” Checked out at this point, because they’re all like that.

[@dr.redphdleasurestudies.5399]

Men have learned to rely on themselves. In "liberating" themselves women have created men who no longer need them.

[@PT5684]

Conclusion from this video : women think only in herselves. Dont be a looser and try to follow up what they want

[@user-zu1ix3yq2w]

Women exposing themselves. These videos can be so valuable..

[@TheNemest]

Thank you! I’m glad there weren’t any men in the room!

[@yowilkat8080]

Lmao

[@mypillpals]

Perfect display of modern femininity .. lol 8 women trying to define masculinity! Ok here is some feedback : 1. For a balanced view point include some men in this conversation about masculinity. How would you like 8 men talking about what’s like to go through pregnancy ? 2. Women historically relied on men’s steadiness and consistency of emotions. Literally nothing can get accomplished without that rock like mind set ... it just get shit done . We men know it deep in our core , we are purpose driven precisely for that reason . So throw a thank you now and then , it will get our attention 3. Stop saying men are not taught to ... x, y and z . Consider biology and how it impact both men and women . Having control over my emotions is a strength as I see it ...and even if I want to change it , my DNA will fight me for it ... it’s that deep ! And I definitely do not intend on swimming upstream .

[@joeblowporkhead864]

I think most people know men and women are different , I watched this to get a better understanding of what women think of men today and I did. I know what your saying and I left a comment as well, it was not hash just that men and women are different and men do not think in the same way as a woman.

[@justanotherpersononyoutube2102]

I come back to this video on occasion. When these women go this far wide of the mark when understanding masculinity, and simultaneously speaking with such authority on it is an education unto itself.

[@idonotagreetoyoutubetermso4543]

Not an expert. In my opinion. Woman belong in a tribal relationship with lots of other women. With hierarchy and rank. And friends and love ones and sisters and mothers. I'm guessing these women are alone and lonely with no role models and no rules. Just social media and bad TV and bad mothers and bad fathers. I promise you, men in their lives don't want to train or teach them. I bet you the women that didn't like getting fucked. Did she ask for her needs. She she pick a position,? Little boys don't need to be left to cry or wear women's shoes. They need playtime and structure and understanding. Ask them about crying and about their feelings. You made such a great point. If these people can't understand their own feelings and don't understand men. How can they talk about mens feelings

[@BulkBrogan.]

this slowly turned into "I hate my dad cuz he didn't hug me"

[@Neii19]

Why so often I see women talking as if they know everything about men? these women are not men, they have zero idea of everything they just said. Its hilarious and cute to see how they think they are actually right.

[@chancletadeldiablo894]

go on then, enlighten us.

[@stephaniejade7056]

If you are so perturbed by women not understanding men, then stop constantly concealing yourself...and spread the word.

[@nintendocereal493]

100% It's very obvious that a majority of women do not understand men.

[@vkrgfan]

@Debbin McCarthy Tell me more. Is it incorrect that masculinity was shaped by “boys don’t cry” and reinforced by both parents and society for millennia? If that’s not true then what is true? For example I don’t like to cry in public for that same reason, I don’t like to appear weak. Doesn’t mean that I never cry, I just don’t like to show it. I don’t know if it’s healthy or not.

[@eccentreak]

I love and totally agree with you.

[@knightace2002]

Usually....I cry by myself. If i'm out somewhere and something bad happens, or sad, I hold it in 'till i'm alone and let it out once I am alone.

[@nuhaakmel663]

❤️❤️❤️🤧

[@theoriginalnestor]

you're fucking weak bro. cry in front of others, strong men don't give a fuck

[@addy3164]

@@theoriginalnestor strong men take the tears of men that cry in front of others and drink it up to fuel themselves for the day

[@hamiltonharper]

The problem is pretty clear, that women are not sexually attracted to which they are emotionally attracted to. I wonder how much of feminism is an attempt to reconcile these conflicting wants?

[@FerchOfficial]

spot on, the women that i've been emotionally open in the past have rejected me sexually. If the women in this video wanted emotional men, they would've married those.

[@hamiltonharper]

fdcg94 I hear you on that, been there myself. It's likely a result of female fear of commitment.

[@chayerradi4063]

As long as the moral abuse and humiliations little girls go through by their brothers, their mothers and sometimes even their fathers is taboo, men will never know why most women prefer beasts. Beasts can scare the demons from the past away, they can make the brother shit his pants and the mother fear for her son. Luckily enough, educated beasts with good intentions and moral values do exist. Someone in the comments below said "no woman wants nice guy when she is young'". That is true, but not because she gets tired of "bad boys" but because she first awaits for all those family members who abused her or disrespected her to be either dead, crippled or going through the hardest times in their lives. Daughters are the first target in a dysfunctional family and her priority is to destroy who destroyed her. As for a woman who grew up in a perfectly functional and respectful environment, there is no age for them to want a nice guy. But they also have their standards. For example, a nice guy with no heavy emotional baggage, very healthy and ambitious. And, MOST IMPORTANT, a guy who is nice because he wants to be nice, not because he has no choice because he has nothing else going on.

[@WaboMotiki]

great perception and analyzing.

[@matthewreichlin713]

That is crazy. I don't know what kind of environment you grew up in, but it is not the reality most people do

[@MurasakiBunny]

Summary: "Wow, men have gone a long way finally, but lets not give them any credit for it and keep pushing."

[@lyledeyounges1276]

Although a interesting topic, the hypocrisy of a group of women sitting around discussing how men should be and act (and look) is really disappointing. It's not hard to imagine how distasteful it would seem had it been the other way around. Many of the boundaries and restrictions of femininity (in expression) has changed or even disappeared, so should those of masculinity. Considering the change of the conception of feminity over the last century, for men to stay in the 'old' construct of masculinity - otherwise they are undesired, or less - is in many ways agreeable to the notion that masculine is something strong, and feminine something weak. I don't understand how so many feminists who actually have a voice, without hesitation, talk about how men actually should stay confined in that state of stagnation.

[@user-gk3lu1gg9t]

That was the entire point of this video...

[@mabuye]

Theres nothing wrong for women to find a safe place to openly express and reflect on their journeys as women, despite wether they’re right or wrong. This is great to see as a man that these conversations are happening. Peace✌🏾

[@louisefienna1616]

This would've been soooo much better if there were also men in the conversation. I wonder why StyleLikeU set this up cause they really make some great videos but this just seems like a bad decision to me.

[@mykasiurka]

This is glorious, been searching for "talking to a girl i like" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ronradoon Desirable Catch - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my friend got great results with it.

[@christophermckinney3924]

Probably not as honest though.

[@DB-um2rb]

They didn’t talk about masculinity. They talked about themselves…

[@mazdysoraya6121]

Lol, these ladies do not have a clue.

[@519blackpanther]

Wow....did they just go to the local Starbucks or local hipster coffee shop to find these women?

[@dantaylor7344]

No, these are 21st century women mate! ALL of them, they exist, they're everywhere and they have NO IDEA about reality. The further East you travel the more feminine the lady, try Japan or far east

[@nishaad771993]

@@dantaylor7344 Or south Asian or South East Asian

[@soniasmith7860]

Bunch of bloddy pucci complaining and they all hate each other. Lol

[@lavinder11]

The woman with orange hair is a matchmaker and she prefers dealing with a quirky, creative crowd and women and men.

[@sourcescience]

It's a video of women talking about themselves and making demands of men. Lord knows we have a shortage of this sort of thing in 2016.

[@WaboMotiki]

in my country we do'nt have them but i get what you saying cause all the forums are see come from the same area code

[@stephaniejade7056]

oh no, there aren't enough videos (aka porno) about males making demands of women.... nooooooo.....

[@decwow]

Stephanie Jade That was just plain out fucking idiotic. You're comparing an open discussion with scripted porn... I don't know... good luck with the cats, I guess.

[@marcgrundfest1495]

decwow please... cats deserve better..

[@ianrust3785]

The women were actually fine, there wasn't any malice... they just don't quite understand men. The real problem men have is lack of humility and hypocrisy, not inability to cry. And striving to project this inflated ideal of righteous perfection which doesn't align with their true selves, and which lands them unable to authentically connect... as we know men don't really want to cry or need to. Just need to drop the act

[@jacksonscully9260]

The video title is misleading. There was no masculinity unveiled here (duh!). A couple of things that were said were true but Women are completely uneducated and misinformed about men and it truly shows in this video. Women are for the most part the last authority on men, an exception being Alison Armstrong. Women need to read her work. Men and Women don't think the same and they both need to educate themselves about each other. Just like we learn to drive, it's also a skill.

[@LukaDonesnitch]

"A couple of things that were said were true but Women are completely uneducated and misinformed about men and it truly shows in this video" So true

[@katiefernandez2254]

As I'm reading your comment, all I can think about is how maybe men watching this video of women discussing men and masculinity and men feeling like it's totally wrong and women are so uneducated...this is how women/ppl with vaginas feel when men make dumb laws about female reproductive health. I agree with you. We should all learn about one another and let ppl speak for themselves, however, this video wasn't women SPEAKING FOR men, it was about their personal experiences with men and masculinity. It's their perceptions, therefore it is true to them, despite not being a technical "fact".

[@ArjunArya05]

Its not like, we force ourself to not cry in front of others, its naturally there...

[@calebblaha7854]

Notice how not one of the women has a practical job?

[@tigerlegend87sf4]

This just showed me how much our relationships with our parents shape us.

[@sbai4319]

I think men and women still have a gulf of misunderstanding to overcome. This video proves it.

[@davidblasczyk8908]

Growing as a person doesn't mean you have to fall apart. All men are different, find the guys that match you and don't try and change the ones who don't

[@nicolechown2249]

Found this a bit superficial not really talking about masculinity, more talking about themselves. I wonder if these women ideas of themselves are socially constructed. not that deep in other words, they are young. Australian women are more earthy.Get beyond father. Don't marry your father it will be a disaster. There are traits then there are deep yearnings and deep needs. Lets look at men differentiated from us give them space.

[@nishaad771993]

I thought it was incoherent and superficial, more of a chit chat than a discussion My idea of discussion is a lot more structured and in depth with some rational content. This was not a serious in depth conversation Although they did speak from the feeling centres and maybe that's the way women communicate and if one pays some attention with an open mind a lot of communication was non verbal.... But they really didn't talk about the topic ...they talked about the men in their lives and only happened to look at how emotionally distant men can be There are reasons as to why many father's are not as emotionally available and its not the lack of emotions, it's a lot more far sighted than that and you expect grown ups to discuss those facets of things as well ...things like balancing out the over availability of the mother, maintaining authority and setting boundaries to prevent children from manipulating parents. With that authority a healthy father figure can push the adolescents to go our there and do something productive than satisfy their feelings with praise and empathy If something is not broken men don't tinker with or talk about it, we are content to leave it at that And like the comment above me has pointed out this group is diverse in looks but not thoughts

[@ACM9407]

Women need to understand the difference between what they APPRECIATE in a man, and what they're ATTRACTED to in a man, and a lot of that just comes down to understanding herself and her biology. If a person can understand their own biology, then they can understand their actions, decisions, emotions, and attraction preferences a lot more. A lot of times when women speak about what they want in a man, they almost speak from a familial frame. They describe qualities they would want to see in their little brother or maybe (lost) father. They are, more or less, actually describing what they appreciate in a man, but that same preference doesn't always transfer over to what actually turns you on. As the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words, and when you examine the ACTUAL dating preferences and experiences of the female masses, what you'll find are results that more so fall in line with their biological hard wiring. See, despite this new societal narrative that says everything related to biology and gender is socially constructed, a lot of our common mating and dating practices are still, in fact, driven by our biology. Men and women alike. Regardless of what they say, women are hard wired to respond to certain attraction queues emitting from a man, and whether they want to admit it or not, being an extremely effeminate man is NOT one of them! Women, by large, are still attracted to traditionally masculine men who can show high status, strength, confidence, and a certain level of dominance. Fact, men who are extremely emotional, sensitive, vulnerable, and super in touch with their emotions are NOT the same men who we find swimming in pussy in society...That's not a coincidence. There's a very logical reason why that is, and it has very little to do with a social construction.

[@Roan.bot.]

I really don’t cry. I reflect. That’s how I “fall apart and rebuild.” I change my mindset when I need too. Like an update when I feel something that’s holding me back. We don’t need tears we need to understand why we are feeling that way.

[@nishaad771993]

Can totally relate The feelings may be temporarily negative (not necessarily crying..cam be gloomy, feeling sick or damn low) but the best way to break the cycle is to take your lessons and move on No point crying over spilt milk No use paying attention to a bit of daily BS and sobbing over it If that's manning up it's a good thing It's a way to relate with the present and see what can be done ...the key is you confront the situation and your feelings both so that you aren't just escaping from reality or being pent up with frustration / negativity etc. There are exceptions to where I may cry...loss of a family member for instance could be a situation But no time for this BS in the vicissitudes of routine life

[@Joskemom]

Yes, I cry when somebody dies. Other than that time at the funeral, why else would I cry? Ok, if I were to win the Super Bowl hell yea. The idea that if we cry women are going to appreciate that is silly. Ok, I cry to my God when no one is watching but other than that, what would it solve?

[@ridvantahir3755]

3:30 essence of modern female

[@richardblanchard5843]

The lady with the orange hair-what she said at the very end of this video was so right on the money , in my opinion - I love her ability to come right out and say what she thinks - her confidence and her perspective on men and woman is great

[@dalanium98]

I remember crying over a birthday party gift bag I didn't get.

[@kyledavis3726]

These women are acting as if no one should hide true emotions ever. You know what, sometimes there's more happiness in the world when you don't overreact or overcomplicate emotions.

[@standardprocedure7017]

Do women want a confident/"picking"/extrovert man or an affectionate/introvert/sensitive man ? I don't think it's possible to have both.

[@standardprocedure7017]

@@nadeesha_w How ?

[@riddlezastra1496]

There are some weird standards.. I'm sensing this whole empowerment ideology is contributing to that.

[@MrNicoleCherie]

Honestly the men in the comment section are seriously hurting. Please just fall apart before leaning on a woman. Read a damn book if you don't know about love, intimacy, emotions and boundaries. Literally in every way possible, you have the ability to overcome this.

[@strohberg]

I don't fall apart, not because any grown men told me not to, but because it shows weakness to the other boys and one will start getting bullied. So it was necessary to toughen up and not let them see you cry. EVER!

[@stevegwizzle3560]

For Mature Responsible Men Only: Learn how to tell women NO. Learn to follow YOUR dreams also in a relationship with a woman, not just hers. Learn to stand up to her and not allow her to manipulate you. Learn to see her as an ADULT, and force her to ACT like an ADULT, which is what she IS, but many women act EMOTIONALLY like children and many men allow it and put up with it. Many women are fully capable of controlling their bad, nasty, bitchy feelings/ behavior but don't know how , have never tried or have never been forced to. I was able to teach my older sister n young niece's a little emotional control and they have gotten better with practice. Ladies, not EVERYTHING is about FEELINGS. Sometimes you need to learn how to OVERRIDE your FEELINGS to get things done or to make your life BETTER by not stressing over the small stuff. Again, this is for mature responsible men only. I can't speak for men who are lazy, act immature, who have no drive, no goals and don't know how to handle responsibility or want responsibility.

[@BrandonKing.]

None of them have said anything about masculinity. This title is very misleading. All these people did was waste time. Their time, your your time and humanities time.

[@mrsasquatch5308]

Liberate them to "Let them cry" "let them wear high heels" ... They just refuse to get it

[@julienfranco7179]

Unveiling Masculinity *not a single male in the room*

[@lona96-HK]

I'm not sure if unveiling masculinity is a great title. I can imagine men could see this as a discussion with underlying biases and assumptions

[@TENDRIL77]

No wonder why some women are alone. I feel sorry for these women (except the older woman, she seems to understand her husband's masculinity a little bit). These women don't want a typical man, they want a gay man. I mean no disrespect, but most men just aren't anywhere near as feminine as these women want or need. They also want them to be feminine and masculine at the same time. Sorry girls, but it is not normal/typical for men to be this way. Almost impossible. I wish them all good luck.

[@decwow]

TENDRIL77 I've said this for quite a few years now when somebody pushes the subject enough... What a lot of women want is another woman with a job and a dick.

[@tshaolin971]

TENDRIL77 Exactly you're right I see the whole picture now. They are describing the typical gay friend with who they can express their feelings aka cry and talk about gossips. This is basicaly their hope for the next generation of men.

[@nintendocereal493]

Apparently, many women don't even know what they want. Women may say they want a sensitive guy who allows himself to be vulnerable, opens up about his feelings, and cries at times. But in reality, women often find this kind of behavior to be unmasculine and a turnoff. Also, it's often the case that when a man shares his most intimate feelings, it's eventually used against him. Men have every reason to be reticent.

[@ManInTheBigHat]

The last line is the most frightening. Run, boys, run!

[@BrownieCin]

"If you can't fall apart, then you stay the same." This discussion may be about men, but I realize as a woman that I'm very masculine in that emotional way.

[@chestercopperbottom]

Now imagine if they eight men to sit in a circle and talk about women in such a way. Imagine what terrible things would be said of those men.

[@decwow]

Do these women truly have no clue that if it wasn't for these stoic type men that this comfortable World they live in would not even exist....

[@rationalirrationality5691]

No shit

[@sourcescience]

Loving the two Sideshow Bob lookalikes competing for the attention.

[@marvinraphaelmonfort8289]

junkmonger and tightrope artist made the best possible combo evidently style-wise !

[@Neii19]

Masculinity is not a social concept it is an evolved trait

[@addbackwards]

No, you are 100% wrong and there is no scientific evidence to support your claim.

[@PBSmithy]

Women are still dreaming of bringing up boys to be girls. They will never listen to you when you tell them who and what you are, because they are interested only in what sounds nice, not what is true. Henry Lee Lucas' mother made him dress as a girl and called him by a girl's name. He later murdered 200 women, beginning with his mother.

[@hamiltonharper]

+addbackwards there is an overwhelming body of evidence spanning multiple fields that supports his claim. You of course are going to want me to link you to a specific work, but you can just walk into your nearest library and pick up a random physical anthropology, cultural anthropology, human biology, or psychology book and you will see page after page of human sexual dimorphism and how hormones effect early childhood brain development. Oxford university, for example, has studied the correlation between brain structure and the presence of hormones and found it to be a significant factor. A minor factor is socialization, meaning, the culture in which we grow up in. The body of evidence claiming otherwise consists of one or two studies conducted in northern Europe that have been widely refuted, yet often cited by gender studies students. I'm too lazy to copy paste the links but then again, you are probably too lazy to correct your perception of reality.

[@stephaniejade7056]

pbssmithy: you are hysterical. You are implying that all serial killers were dressed by their mothers in 'dresses' and, therefore, lost their minds and went on killing sprees -- that clothes make a serial killer. On face value, without even investigating, this is a ridiculous assumption. The man-box within men are culturalized by other men has a lot to do with their extremist complexities regarding clothes, colors, voice, etc. Also, "They will never listen to you when you tell them who and what you are, because they are interested only in what sounds nice, not what is true." Could also be flipped around to how males treat females. There is no substantive basis for your claims: none at all.

[@stephaniejade7056]

HH: you have it incorrect. In fact, biology is the secondary factor and culture is the primary factor. Brain development is significant in early childhood, but CULTURE is what impacts it more than any other factor: this is why traumatized children don't usually grow up to be untraumatizd adults -- the culture in which they experienced early-life (which impacted their neurons and development) is the significant factor. This, anyone can look up under child developmental psychology and biology.

[@charchar7435]

I surprised how many the angry men are in this comment section. Some obviously misandrist. They likely watched the video looking to be offended or disagree with what they're saying. It's sad because the women do make some valid, helpful points. Emotional intelligence and maturity is just as important as being rational.

[@lynnmckenney1987]

There are indeed plenty of angry men in these comments. They may be frustrated as they are listening to women talk about men and masculinity without a single man around to offer insight. If you want to hear men talk about masculinity, question themselves, their beliefs and preconceived ideas of "what a man is", have a look at soul pancakes "that's what he said" or the "man enough" series.

[@kevinenfield2338]

Women talking a lot and saying nothing 😂 😂 normal service resumes 😂 😂

[@LIVdaBrand]

They are MORE afraid of rejection yet want him to not be afraid of rejection. How double standardish.

[@NOAHfreakingTHOMAS]

Why are people so obsessed with the idea that men can't cry? Nobody I know or have ever known gives a crap about this?

[@allystone7239]

I love how most of the comments are from men... Love these roundtables, you should do more :)

[@hamiltonharper]

+Ally Stone it's probably something to do with the blatant sexism that is portrayed here.

[@damiendarko9411]

We comment because we know the modern woman hates us and we think it's funny :)

[@danielcook11]

Did the orange hair lady just admit that she doesn't know how she fits into her relationship & she's doesn't really contribute anything to the relationship. Then they say they are strong women but then will never approach a man. Damn, these women contradict the hell out of themselves.

[@marshacreary9771]

How has their background effected who they pursue or who they enter into relationships with? Do they find themselves repeating the same mistakes their parents experienced in their lives? Do they want more depth?

[@stanleycabiness2231]

The old lady right ... man are different if you hold him back he will lash out one day

[@ogersoulless8912]

my question is did these woman ever try to hug their dad instead of waiting for him?

[@ndgnatoo6677]

I’m still a kid but wouldn’t the dads feel weird hugging their daughters 😭

[@cooljoescott]

It would be a black woman who would love a man to wear heels. These are some of the weirdest women I've ever seen.

[@opus0872]

lol what black women want masculine men, i would expect that from an asian lady

[@Hannahplaysguitar17]

In watching this, I see a group of intelligent and passion-driven people with strong presence and momentous ideas... just to make that clear off the bat. Yet there is some missing context for me; to have an educational discussion about "men", it should be well-contextualized. This conversation and topic don't acknowledge GNC folx directly, yet it's directly about gender and gender roles. There are a bunch of generalizations made, and I am surprised to hear sexuality come up in such a strong way (in a space created by a progressive movement...) without validating, directly, the existence and reality of asexual folx. I believe that's important if StyleLikeU has the intention to be an inclusive movement. It's a really easy thing to do to simply mention those who are often forgotten in many places. I'm cis, and sexual, and lots of other dominant/accepted identities, but believe these to be important things to acknowledge! thanks. xx

[@MrApplewine]

13:00 That's stupid. We fix the problem, then no more crying.

[@omarmiller314]

Men are unaffectionate because we are punished for it, by women mostly, whenever we show sensitivity or vulnerabilities. Women tend to lose interest in those kinda guys and we notice.

[@alliaskis]

Started shaming men at :09. Couldn't watch beyond a minute for fear of vomiting.

[@Rescue162]

Very interesting women. I like seeing women talk about men. That makes us relevant. Just like women are relevant. Without knowing where this was taped, these women look very different from the women I know in my world. I love women.

[@upendasana7857]

For christ's sake,I can't believe there are some women who would consider it beneath them to go up to and speak to a guy they are interested.

[@dosesandmimoses]

I hate falling apart. I understand the growth that couples with the experience.. but I don’t enjoy it .. I’m super embarrassed when I cry.. it’s not shame.. I think I must have interpreted it in very isolating ways as a child. I’d like to hear how you ladies self soothe.. I never was taught.. maybe that is why I find the emotional process so difficult… I will say having a place to listen and finding the courage to contribute feels both scary and reassuring. For what it’s worth, I hope my insignificant contribution helps someone else…

[@codenamegiggles]

Ok, I rather enjoyed this video. Although it may not be factual there's no need to attack these women with negative comments. All opinions deserve to be heard with out being judged immediately. As a woman I felt as if I was being described, I lack to express emotion through words but I express through actions. Telling my boyfriend how I feel about him is literally painful and a battle. So I can relate to this video, not so much a the stereotype of a "woman" but as the stereotype of a "man".

[@jacksonscully9260]

I don't think not being able to express yourself in some ways makes you a masculine archetype. Nor the fact that you express through action. I remember hearing Steve Harvey saying Men express love through action i.e. bringing home the bacon, and in my opinion that is a complete load of nonsense. We are all unique, and this is provable. You are as a matter a fact a woman so please don't judge yourself for not being able to open up. You may in fact have emotional wounds you are not aware of.

[@ikbenongesteld7397]

i lost braincells

[@tebogohamese4087]

...a lot of them. I'm surprised I was able to type this message!

[@smutz131]

Eugenics Meeting of the Pan-Mediterranean Grand Witches' Coven (PMGWC) (1967, colorized)

[@strohberg]

We cannot allow ourselves to fall apart, because our job is to keep the family safe. We have to be the strong ones. It may mean we cannot always show our feelings. We must learn to deal with them. In safe spaces. But that confidence women seem to find very attractive in men, comes the ability to keep our shit together. No matter what comes at us. That conveys a feeling of safety. Knowing, this guy, he's #1. I'm safe with him. Yes. The drawback is, that is very tricky to handle for many of us men, because we are just as traumatized as everyone else on this planet. We all seem to have gotten a difficult hand dealt. But those of us who decide to overcome fear and step into action are the most promising mates. Because then, we are men. And not boys. Looking for a mother to take care of us. That is what not crying means to us as men. Showing that we are as tough as nails and nobody can fuck with my family for as long as I live. And if I did my job right, they will be well off without me.

[@mussolinir2382]

For you ladys... "A man cannot fix a broken woman, for he can only heal her, until she's able to fix herself".....from ME, Thanks for All the women we need Ya 🙏

[@mb23ism]

Does anyone else view them as painfully stupid? I think my skull is breaking.

[@haret0n]

+Mark X jesus. i feel as if they are hammering my brain with a big mallet. from the inside. wow. this video could be used for some kind of aversion therapy. surely it has some kind of purpose. maybe that's it. an instrument of torture perhaps!

[@leemythic4400]

Do I view an attempt to understand something, like what masculinity means to these women as stupid? Not really, someone's perception of their own father has a way of deeply affecting someone's personality. If you think it's stupid, give a reason for justifying that opinion. Otherwise, your comment is irrelevant knowledge to any serious discussion.

[@AJweathersby]

+Mark X A lot of guys are going in on these women, but I think this is exactly what guys need to see. Just like how most women don't have a clue how guys think and feel, the same applies with us to women. It's not about agreeing with anything they say. It's about getting an insight into what makes them tick. If you know how a woman thinks, dealing with them is a million times easier, whether you're dealing with a woman whose trying to ruin your life or a woman whose trying to marry you. And if you understand what someone wants, and why they want it, then there's nothing they could possibly do that would surprise you.

[@carmichaelroad]

+Mark X they're all done up like circus clowns

[@AMsamification]

+carmichaelroad not the Jewess married 5 years..quite pretty

[@MimiRoundTheWay]

I see a lot of men disagreeing withthis video and saying "women just don't understand men" "women are stupid" and so on. These women, or women in general are not stupid. All feelings are valid, actions are not. These women were expressing their feelings on men and some of you men choose to ACT as judgmental fools. Why not ACT like mature adults who can have a meaningful debate? If you think we don't understand you, tell us why. I haven't seen ANY MAN on here give legitimate reason as to why we do not understand men, nor have I seen anyone try to explain who/what men are at the core. I am not saying you are required to, but what is the point in commenting if you have nothing to contribute to the convo except disrespect? Don't like what's being said - fine...but if you think these women are misled and foolish then you are just as foolish for not trying to direct them. We ARE NOT men. However we LOVE APPRECIATE AND NEED you all so that is why we are hellbent on trying to "compare" or figure you guys out. This roundtable was pretty interesting and I enjoyed it. I agree with all that was said about men because I have had the same exact experiences which means 1) These things are true 2) I need to acknowledge a new perspective. If you think I need to run with #2, who better than to open my eyes to a new perspective than a man? Save all that feminine ass banter. Leave the pointless insults to us - we throw enough of those out already (and we're working on it, I swear lollll)

[@QED_]

Mimi RoundTheWay Maybe . . . the way Men tell you things in the comments . . . is one of the things they're telling you about Men (?)

[@knightace2002]

Mimi RoundTheWay Thing is.....guys don't value problem talk as much as girls do. When asked why, it wasn't because they were afraid, they said it was a waste of time. Men and boys wanna do things that are constructive and most of their emotions get placed in their work (artists, etc.) and it helps them. I always cry when i'm alone and if i'm out somewhere I usually hold it in and let it out when i'm all alone. There's other stuff that needs doing and I have no time for crying or whatever. That's why males are emotionally flat but they do have emotions they just express them differently.

[@chriscodling6573]

Lol "women need men" I doubt the women on this panel would agree with you. We live in an age where men are told by women how to be a man, which is like a women telling me how my penis works. Back in the day men told women how to be a women and now we have feminism, what I'm trying to say two wrongs don't make a right. And if you want learn something about men ask men.

[@knightace2002]

chris codling Wasn't it "Women taught girl's how to be a woman and men taught boys how to be a man"?

[@chriscodling6573]

knightace2002 well back then it was reinforced by both men and women, That women should be bare foot and pregnant, but nowadays with the rise of divorce's and single mothers, and the fact the majority of teachers female. Men are practically being raise by women now, The consequences of this are that men don't now how to respect anyone anymore because a women can't teach respect.

[@bsmakoro]

How can you liberate these men and nourish that culture? Try not leaving them in the friend-zone for opening up to you emotionally rather than charging in sexually like all others.

[@therealtom]

She describes how she contributes nothing to the relationship and still frames it as "he gets to have".

[@chrisfed7147]

Listening to women just shows me they don't know anything. Until men tell them what to do

[@mrm.5787]

You women should start listen/watch ”The Read Man Group” on youtube. The difference in how you all talk and they talk is staggering.

[@theoriginalnestor]

I am just here to learn. Thank you for allowing me into your mind.

[@Pax.Britannica]

*"I'm totally liberated, I'm totally useless."* Have you ever seen that graphic of the three people tryna watch a baseball game? One short guy, one medium, one tall. And you have three copies, one where each person gets a box: "equality". One where the tall guy gets none, and the short guy gets two: "equity". And one where there's no fence: liberation. ...Ya see why that's a stupid graphic now, hun?

[@philu3]

If he's wearing heels and he's straight, that's hot?? Now there's a woman pretending to be straight

[@9livesgeorge]

LMAO "I think that the only way you can grow as a person is to be able to fall apart." Disconnected from reality. I wonder what would she start to think if her man fell apart every so often. And she had to be strong for him all those times.

[@Joskemom]

Only a woman could come up with a concept like that. For us guys, falling apart is not part of any growth.

[@MultiSmartass1]

Here what the matchmaker doesn't understand and likely all these other women that I understand as a lifelong bachelor: Men can traverse career and cooking because at least if you are single for a while in your life. because you learn not just to take care of yourself. but to multitask in general. So these days, men are multifaceted in ways that women don't understand and never will.

[@marijuevekuluz5162]

it would be nice to whatch more interections like this one. So nuturing to know your vision and expericences in this subject. As a man i value that a lot

[@gtdcbasics5443]

Why are so many (mysogynist ) haters in the comment section. I saw the conversation in this video as very intriguing and also quite affirmative in their discussions with such simplicity. Thanks to the creator.

[@joeblowporkhead864]

If your a man you will be wired different than a woman , I do my best to understand women I have two daughters 21 and 24 yrs old. so I want to be there for them as a father and this was helpful in understanding some of what women feel. Men do have feelings and yes they don't show them as much but part of our nature is to fix things and protect. It's a thing that both men and women have a difficult time with.

[@christophermckinney3924]

Men and women are simply different. I think men feel like men when they DON'T fall apart. I'm really tired of the this terribly inconsistent idea that men must be simultaneously strong and weak. It's an impossible standard. Be flexible and listen and be sympathetic, but not a "crier." If a close relative or your pet dies, cry. Otherwise, grit your teeth, bear it, and give some back. As a man I think the goal should be to be the strongest person in the room and be reliably consistent so you're the rock on whom everyone can rely in a crisis. The crazier it gets around you, the calmer you have to appear to be. You can show affection and generosity, but you don't have to act like a woman to be a successful man.

[@24HeySay]

No Margo, men are not "intimidated" by your "big hair and clothes." They're not interested in you because, frankly, you make yourself look kind of hideous. Which is your right, but don't expect to attract anybody that way. First impressions do matter.

[@AMsamification]

These two women are looking like they want to join a circus..why all that organge and weird plumage?

[@oneeyedtrousersnake8843]

All they gotta do is submit an application.

[@OmidMankooAuthor]

Blank sheet All-in-all, it was great to hear your perspectives and ideas expressed. I thoroughly liked that there were many women thus allowing for a broad spectrum of ideas to be shared. I would have loved to have seen an equal number of men to shed light on men. Your ability to not interrupt each other as each one tried to thoroughly express your thoughts was superb. I felt only one such quickness in speech that cut quickly into the evenness / steadiness and calmness if the ideas expressed. One thought I wanted to express was when a woman expresses to her man about the frustrations of the day. When a person is overwhelmed by frustrations and if they have the solution why would they remain in overwhelming frustration? Consider a guy who hears day after day of his woman complaining about various frustrating situations. Sure it's good to know where she is coming from and what she is feeling and why. If this were to continue, the relationship would be mostly her talking about her frustrations and really not much more than that. The time were she could be delving into the man and or man delving into he woman to learn about each other is spent on the woman's frustrations. It is bringing negativity into the relationship suffocating it. If she knew the answer of how not to be genuinely frustrated why should she not apply it and get herself out if that mind-set and live and be happy. The reason she is frustrated and in negativity is because she does not have the solution or has not applied it or chooses for whatever reason to not apply it and I am not blaming her. I have been depressed in my life. And I preferred to remain in depression feeling the deep hurting feelings (love breakup for 5 years) I was feeling rather than to focus on whatever else in life, because what I was feeling was something very deeply true. And I value truth. Something real. I thoroughly appreciate the comment made about : "fire and options are an effort to want to be closer and if you become so rational and so even, you're not really connecting in the profound and deep way that you wish to connect" Stating the reason why you are communicating is essential. In this section of the video: "You don't understand me so I'm crazy" exactly all people have various differing perspectives and so we don't make sense to each other and thus we appear crazy to each other. "Crazy" meaning I really don't understand your perspective. Notice if your child comes to you with some bleeding and they are crying obviously you try to console them but as you are doing that you are really concerned about his bleeding condition and so you keep yourself very objective in trying to find the source of the problem. You know you have to keep yourself together to do the right thing for he health of the child, so it survives. That's what the guy is doing by keeping objective. He is at that moment very real very aware and in-sink with what you are presenting him with. In this case if she is presenting the situation however the real situation he should be paying attention to is about how she felt about it and how she felt about it, and for the man to connect with her to really try to feel what she was going through, then it would be wise for her to actually start out by stating her purpose. If she starts with explaining the situation and focuses on that and not make her point clear of why she is communicating this information then there is a miscommunication about the reason she is communicating. There are many more points that you gals talked about which was quite good . Thank you :)

[@Joskemom]

When I was married, she wore me out because night after night after night I would spend trying to comfort her from a bad 'lack of love' childhold only to spend the next night becoming a therapist with new words for her same problem.

[@isaacwilson8682]

Learn what you value by making mistakes. Allow yourself to grow and accept your personal limitations. Be your best self, the self that makes you happy. If you truly understand what you need in life and pursue it, you will attract all kinds of interesting people that will help you learn. Stop blaming others for your feelings and failures. Own your feelings and love yourself. Share your values and bond with people that share their values. Value yourself as you would others. Become a liberated individual. Being tethered to idological and political ropes will hold you back and make you miserable. Your parents taught you some of what you want and don't want in relationships and set the bar your basic self worth. But you must grow beyond your childhood experiences if you want to make a difference. Take the time to understand different perspectives. You don't have to agree with everything you are told by others. You won't be trapped in narrow roles that you resent if you don't beleive in them. It's a scary world and we need each other.

[@christopherarmstrong2710]

3:14 “It’s really hot when a guy makes plans.” 14:35 Reading her body in the bedroom.

[@Roan.bot.]

I do just be in the moment and let ladies feel what they are feeling but I do still think it’s a waste of time to just leave a problem wrong while we sit here licking our wounds. That’s why someone times if it seems like a good moment if one of my female friends are upset about something I’ll say something that would basically be the expectation for a strong man. “So what did you do about it?” If they say nothing I will probably pause and nod and hopefully the reflect in that moment but 90% of the time they have an excuse as to why they didn’t “feel” like they could do anything knowing that I know they know better than to think that’s a valid reason. I just hold myself to the standard that if I let a problem happen and didn’t do anything about it I forfeit the right to whine because it’s my fault things turned out that way. Of course I can’t hold most ladies to that same expectation. They wouldn’t understand and they would just think I don’t care and stop telling me things. Just know if you are a lady that lives up to that standard I have more respect for you. You aren’t fake “empowered” strong. You’re actually a person of strong character. There are other characteristics of a sting person but that’s one I think is important.

[@curtiscj3087]

“ Let them cry , let them wear high heels “ wtf kinda men are they talking about lmfao 🤣 😂

[@gwynplaine6710]

Fuck that was a painful 17 minutes!

[@YS_Production]

And they say we don't express emotions haha

[@hvrtguys]

pseudo intellectual art freakos.

[@TheNeverposts]

spot on

[@scorpiofairy2705]

At least they think, you don't even try it

[@iskandarthegreat6657]

scorpio fairy then you'd better reconsider the very meaning of thinking

[@dis4980]

I would love to throw Jack Donavan into this room. It would be hilarious.

[@leona5543]

How many times can the one with orange hair say "like"?

[@Jamalhatesu]

Leona Anais How many times will women be subjugated for every facet of their existences?

[@leemythic4400]

Lol...like.... however many times she likes. At least her accent isn't so bad.

[@Scuppun]

Just look at the people who are in this group. Very bitter and twisted. No unbiased views here and no accountability or responsibility.

[@addy3164]

The most important man in a women's life is her father

[@UFOsAreRealArea51]

Falling apart cost money. That's why we're terrified! We can't ger it all back on a whim. It takes life energy to get it all back financially. Women aren't going to stuff his pockets when it's all over or even during.

[@dr.redphdleasurestudies.5399]

Suddenly dyeing alone doesn't sound so bad. Lol.

[@ghxsteehh4903]

You don’t ask Fish how to catch Fish.. you ask a Fisherman. These feminists don’t know what they are talking about