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Update on confronting trespassers

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North Country Off Grid

North Country Off Grid

Күн бұрын

Update on the confronting trespassers. We give you an update on the situation with the trespassing neighbor and his realtor. We learn some new facts and share what steps we took to stop further trespassing on our homestead.
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Chad & Shelby
We are a family that decided to make a huge lifestyle change. We bought 20 raw acres and carved in our homestead and built our home from the ground up with our own two hands- a Tiny house & DIY & HGTV came out and filmed the process of it being built- Tiny House Big Living- Off Grid Tiny.
We live completely off grid and we are growing our farm! We have pigs, goats, horse, chickens, cats & dogs.
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@IdahoHillbilly
@IdahoHillbilly 6 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID My Friend !
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Hey are morels even real??🤪😂 going out Sunday all day with family and friends...
@TheEmeraldNight
@TheEmeraldNight 6 жыл бұрын
Morels? Morals? :P Unfortunatley Morals are like common sense and it seems that the USA is a lot like Aus in relation to humans lack of both. The good thing with the USA is you can defend your land as much as needed, here we are forced to bend over and take it. Definatley looking forward to how things progress from here.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Trevor Whyatt thanks man. I was talking about morel mushrooms😁. Idaho hillbilly is ranked #2 (second to miss kitty) in morel hunting in the state of Idaho. Good times, hard to find...
@IdahoHillbilly
@IdahoHillbilly 6 жыл бұрын
The MOREL MUSHROOMS are On My Friend ! My Uncle north of Spirit Lake has been picking them on his place in the last few days to.
@TheEmeraldNight
@TheEmeraldNight 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, I might go back to my corner then :) After I check out his channel.
@hdanielnoble3671
@hdanielnoble3671 5 жыл бұрын
To anybody who responds with "Just let him cross." A loud "NO!"
@cecils.4570
@cecils.4570 3 жыл бұрын
That's how ppl end up loosing rights to their land! Ppl that say that have no clue 🤦
@RJ67.
@RJ67. 2 жыл бұрын
Screw that, next thing you know, there is a 3 lane highway going through.
@TheWestlandgirl
@TheWestlandgirl Жыл бұрын
You cannot allow, by allowing it sets precident to have Rights removed.
@msb358
@msb358 Ай бұрын
Amen to that! We bought 38 acres between two friends. They asked my husband is they could cross the property to each other's house. Husband said okay, but only to cross. Next thing we knew, a teen son and friends made jumping ramps on our property. And the other friend's grandkids built a stick fort and placed a bunch of Halloween decorations to make a "Haunted Trail" on OUR property. Mind you, our son and grandson hunt on our property. Thank God there wasn't a tragic accident with these kids! I had to be the bad guy and kick all the neighbors off. Went to the sheriff's department, put a ton of signs around, and put the purple ring around dozens of trees. (Purple in our state means no trespassing.) The lesson learned... if you give an inch, they'll take a foot! Always say, "NO!!"
@MouseToes
@MouseToes 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you called the Realtors office and spoke to the Broker in Charge about their agent who escorted a client past a no trespassing sign.
@rockinrowdy13
@rockinrowdy13 5 жыл бұрын
My son and I LOVE to fish..and I look for places that aren't generally fished in. There was a farm on the out-skirts of town that had probably a three acre "pond" on it. I had been told by a friend that he snuck in one evening and first cast caught a 5lb large mouth. I don't do sneaking around crap so one Saturday I drove up the guys long driveway and knocked on the door. I ASKED the guy for permission to fish with my then ten year old boy. I told the guy we'd take any trash away we generated and told the guy that he would have first pick of any "keepers" we caught. The guy thought about it for a minute and said ok. He then said over the years he has chased many people out and that we were the first people to ever stop and ask permission. A couple hours later he road down to where we were on a horse to see how we were doing. We had three large mouth bass each over 5lbs. He drank a soda with us,declined on taking any fish,and told us we were welcome back anytime we like,just don't bring anyone else with us! People,all you need to do is ask permission. nine times out of ten,if you are polite and cordial it will be granted!
@sketch334
@sketch334 5 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me,they usually say ok as long as you take your trash.
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 5 жыл бұрын
Yep happened to me once. A great place to fish. It is not that hard to do. Just go up and ask. If they say no and walk away. If they say yes, then respect their property. They work hard for it and out of the kindness of their heart they let you have the Privilege to be on their land.
@lyonsson6480
@lyonsson6480 5 жыл бұрын
My step son and I did that back in San Jose, old farm. Only lasted around a year, property sold and there’s a Bass Pro Shops there now...
@Brian-mc4pd
@Brian-mc4pd 5 жыл бұрын
For as big of a deal as this drama queen made about, I doubt he would grant anybody permission. He took a two min story and, between the 2 vids, turned it into an hour rant. Imagine how long it would take this drama queen just to give you a yes or no answer. I wouldn’t risk it
@racer774
@racer774 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Tanski - Funny you should say that. Apparently you enjoy creating drama of your own by posting what you did. If you don't like what you watched, move along. He did not offend you, yet you found cause to attempt to insult him. Time for some introspection, buddy. Be honest with and about yourself. Bottom line: Don't be a dick.
@zachstufflebeam8915
@zachstufflebeam8915 5 жыл бұрын
I was always taught that passing a 'no trespassing' sign was a great way to get shot/arrested.
@USMADE-bb9ht
@USMADE-bb9ht 3 жыл бұрын
Respect a man's private land.
@marcuswilson8675
@marcuswilson8675 3 жыл бұрын
Thats just common sense i see no trespassing sign that tells me stay out
@havok9001
@havok9001 3 жыл бұрын
also if u hunt on my land u ass be dead or if still alive & ur ass got cap u will pay $5000+ fee & etc.... i warned that person u can try to sue me but u be more fuck then me
@teddylong2167
@teddylong2167 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand shooting anyone for just being on your property.
@buckfutter99
@buckfutter99 2 жыл бұрын
@@teddylong2167 plenty of variables. I had some teens walk through my property and when confronting one pulled a knife. I brandished a 19x and they took off. Half an hour later deputies showed up with guns drawn and detained me until I showed them the video of the kid pulling a knife while standing in my back yard. I’m not a fan of showing a gun if I’m not using it. I don’t want to shoot kids, they also should walked armed on my property. That’s my job.
@doughale1555
@doughale1555 6 жыл бұрын
I would gladly trade my neighbor for you. Twice I caught him cutting my trees claiming it was his ground. I told him it was not and just stop. The third time he put his septic tank on my land. I did a “Clear Title” lawsuit against him which also becomes a public notice to every one that my title is accurate and clear of any possible future claims. So now I own septic tank. Best wishes to you and your lovely family.
@TeslaWasHere
@TeslaWasHere 6 жыл бұрын
Doug Hale I've heard of suing for the lost trees. Replacement of said trees can be expensive.
@pamelaraney4654
@pamelaraney4654 6 жыл бұрын
Doug Hale what are you going to do with your new septic?
@penelopepenobscot4475
@penelopepenobscot4475 6 жыл бұрын
Pamela Raney storm shelter? I wouldn't mind having a second one here in tornadoville.
@penelopepenobscot4475
@penelopepenobscot4475 5 жыл бұрын
@frank brown I have a small 60 acre farm and will put my house on it anywhere I please.
@penelopepenobscot4475
@penelopepenobscot4475 5 жыл бұрын
@frank brown thank you so much for your concern, but we Yankees are hardy lot. I would much rather take my chances here in tornado alley the 5 hours North in Chicago. By the way , we also sing that dreadful lullaby to our babies.
@littlegirllost2654
@littlegirllost2654 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. I owned 40 acres with a pond and I had problems with people wanting to fish without permission. But you said it when you mentioned ethics. A lot of people in today’s society lack ethics. Many are entitled
@charlesritz1
@charlesritz1 5 жыл бұрын
We have a 100 acre very remote ranch in Eastern Washington. We've owned it for 30+ years and have a little cabin on it. We go up there every year or two. Our neighbor bought a 20 parcel next us about five years ago - a very grumpy old man. He actually has a sign on his gate saying "No Seconded Chances - You Have Been Warned!" We had our land surveyed because the other neighbors started cutting through Our land off a public dirt road easement instead of going around. We put signs up.... yet they kept using the "road" they clears through our land .. without permission. They even tore off the no trespassing signs I put up. So we put back the ~500 rocks they had cleared off... and put signs back up. Problem solved so far with them. Then the guy who bought the 20 acre parcel put up a barbed wire fence between his property and ours. All the parcels are perfect squares or rectangles with 90 degree angles on pretty rugged terrain. He decided to install the fence straight for a 100 yards or so, then veer it on to our land to his benefit... he doesn't live up there full-time btw. As our family (including 2 teens) were walking the line, he came "charging" up the hill from his cabin to toward his new barbed wire fence. We were VERY respectful and nice until he Wasn't! He started cursing and said "If you don't get off MY land, I'll put a hole in you!" My nephew actually caught that on a 1 minute he decided to capture … good boy! Since the fence was between us, I told him Not only are WE on OUR land, so are you and your fence. We left. We called the police and informed them … they said it was a private matter and suggested a survey. We told them we had a survey on file with the county. Anywho, a couple weeks later my brother and his buddy went back up and chopped his fence in pieces and through the posts and barbed wire fence (his junk) back on His land. He discovered this about a week or two later and called the cops … they suggested he get a survey. They called us and said we were allowed to remove other people's property from our lot.
@SuperIndy08
@SuperIndy08 4 жыл бұрын
Cheese @ Dog what’s the conclusion?!
@tnen559
@tnen559 4 жыл бұрын
SuperIndy08 really? You have to ask that question smh
@salvatoregandolfosr.3793
@salvatoregandolfosr.3793 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, That’s My Gramps. He’s Ok, He’s Just Misunderstood
@joeyork9891
@joeyork9891 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing you did. People have used this tactic in court to steal land even with surveys done
@GiggLzGaming
@GiggLzGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Do not worry about what these people say! You protecting your children and your own property, that you spent a lot of time and money on, is the right thing to do. I'm thinking that these people most likely would not give up their property either! I only have a half acre yard but, I feel the same way about my small yard as you do. Kids always run through my yard, stepping on my grass and flowers. People need to be teaching more respect to their kids and practicing respect themselves.
@michaelsmith9308
@michaelsmith9308 5 жыл бұрын
SIMPLE FIX-FENCE IT -TOY DOG (tiny) No mess, no fuss! I put up automatic flood lights too at every corner of my house!
@mikemount4102
@mikemount4102 5 жыл бұрын
Negative comments are stupid, i dont own land and am pretty liberal but you did nothing wrong and handled it perfectly, you have every right to protect your property
@ceeceety2320
@ceeceety2320 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine half of the rude comments came from "people" who don't own property, or if they do, it's in a neighborhood in a city. This is great info that obviously interests thousands of people. HUGE responsibility to know your rights and limitations when owning acreage. Fantastic video and you're the kind of neighbor I would be proud to have!
@daisyladyklg8538
@daisyladyklg8538 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Especially good info for anyone who is looking into purchasing such a parcel and (hopefully) talk to someone who at least understands the concept so they can research their possibilities 1st
@bridget22868
@bridget22868 5 жыл бұрын
You sound very sensible to me and I feel these same way!!! Great morals and ethics.
@bartavaughan295
@bartavaughan295 5 жыл бұрын
People who just say let him on your land have none. By don't they let homeless people sleep in their bed when they want to.
@tlgpb0627
@tlgpb0627 6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you stood your ground in a way that didn't go straight to a violent power play. Way to go.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@maryleejones5791
@maryleejones5791 5 жыл бұрын
Never give people access, remember how squatters laws work. You are doing a great job.
@MichaelStewart-zs4lf
@MichaelStewart-zs4lf 5 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as squatters law in the United States.
@bigcat5016
@bigcat5016 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Stewart depends on the state in which you live
@_itsallahoax
@_itsallahoax 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelStewart-zs4lf I can't speak for squatter's laws, but property owners have been sued for something called adverse possession.
@bloodaxe5028
@bloodaxe5028 5 жыл бұрын
Dis ain't califoorniah !!
@racer774
@racer774 5 жыл бұрын
bloodaxe - Thank God it's not like Callafornee.
@kathybreedlove828
@kathybreedlove828 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel and the honesty and integrity that you and family possess. Don’t change a thing.
@helenhendry4772
@helenhendry4772 5 жыл бұрын
I would love having you as a neighbor. So well said. Protecting your family and property is #1&2. ❤️
@godsmaineguy
@godsmaineguy 6 жыл бұрын
Whenever you own property, someone always thinks its public and they have no idea of how hard you worked to get it. I have 115 acres and every few years someone challenges me . I worked hard for it , as I am sure you did too. I wish you the best. Praying for you.
@jphickory522
@jphickory522 6 жыл бұрын
Don't ever give an inch when it comes to someone trying to steal what is rightfully yours. Stay strong.
@charlesbishop7389
@charlesbishop7389 5 жыл бұрын
28 acre land owner in New Jersey. Much respect for your perspective and demeanor. Stay diligent and safe. God bless you, your family, and America. Thank you.
@joycebetzer3815
@joycebetzer3815 5 жыл бұрын
Its like parking in someones drive way, walking in their back yard , and useing their pool
@Celestes_Nest
@Celestes_Nest 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! Same thing.
@jjqb13
@jjqb13 3 жыл бұрын
Thats crazy. Whats wrong with walkin into someones house, eatin food, and pooping on the carpet on my way out?
@michiganiac
@michiganiac 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect analogy 🇺🇸
@littleoldlady4154
@littleoldlady4154 2 жыл бұрын
I keep getting overnight poaching hunters in my backyard. They are firing their guns less than 5 feet from my house and shooting at everything that moves. They drink and use drugs while leaving their trash in my yard. They bang on the door demanding to use my bathroom. I refuse to let them inside because it's a "stranger danger" thing. I have no idea if they are thieves, rapist, or serial killers. They do not live here. They do not pay the bills here. They do not pay the taxes. They have zero property rights. They got to go. Game Warden, conservation officers, police officers do not care about my safety. I should not have to wear orange 24/7 inside my own home and in my own yard. They do not have permission to hunt because it is private property. So it is a zombie hunter apocalypse in my backyard.
@davedreds5905
@davedreds5905 6 жыл бұрын
Another point: you dont want someone going through your property who has already shown that he will help himself to your possessions (timber under tarp). He has shown a serious lack of moral credibility and bad character. Again, well done. 👍
@15055chevy
@15055chevy 6 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you for not letting him trespass. I own land and I'm very protective of it. I hope everything goes well with the situation.
@marjoriegriffin3997
@marjoriegriffin3997 6 жыл бұрын
Henry Van Noy I inherited 33.5 acers from my mother when I was in college. After all the funeral was done I went to walk around on the property. To my surprise someone had been dumping tires on the property. I changed colleges after that so that I could remain on my property and protect it. I live in a small town in Texas and I caught those fellows on my property. A shot gun and a couple of mastiffs will dicourage any one. I took them to court after I called the cops. They had to pay someone to remove all the tires (because they were not allowed on my property) pay a fine and on top of that pay me damages. Now I have no trespassing signs everywhere. [This property protected by Smith and Wesson. Tresspassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again. No trespassing.]
@bkerchev
@bkerchev 5 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. I have to agree with all your views and applaud you for your self restraint in dealing with the trespassers. I hope you don't have to deal with court and/or money out of pocket regarding this incident. I'm in the process of buying a modest piece of land in northern Florida. Fortunately I have easement without issue. My nearest neighbors are about a 1/2 mile away. Your videos are instructive and a great lesson to land owners and those looking to buy land. You mentioned negativity, I understand your meaning. But, I feel there is a positive value to your message. Best of luck to you and your family in all your endeavors.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome!! Thanks for subbing 👍🏻
@brandontucker601
@brandontucker601 5 жыл бұрын
The world needs a lot more people like you... stay strong brother!
@TheLenaweeTrekker
@TheLenaweeTrekker 6 жыл бұрын
I think everything you said is totally reasonable. Much respect for what you and your family are doing, Sir.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MM-qm7og
@MM-qm7og 6 жыл бұрын
I am a real estate title searcher in the state of Connecticut. I am the one that goes out for the title company and actually looks at the maps and the deeds and the easements etc. I found this video to be absolutely fascinating.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Well don’t leave us hanging...
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 6 жыл бұрын
pffft63, what do you do for a living?
@johnrice1943
@johnrice1943 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Flippin title searcher's apprentice.
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 6 жыл бұрын
So that is two or three rungs below a title searcher....hmmmmm
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 6 жыл бұрын
You said a title searcher was the lowest rung, not true apparently. Does an apprentice make more than a journeyman? No. My point was you were poking fun at someone who makes more money than you do and his higher up on the food chain. =]
@mrs.garcia6978
@mrs.garcia6978 5 жыл бұрын
This is why we steer clear of anything resembling an "easement" honestly. We live in the country to get away from ppl, not have to negotiate ROW and worry about what happens when new ppl buy.
@dlou3264
@dlou3264 4 жыл бұрын
One of the single best video posts I have Ever Ever Ever seen. Period. Thank you for posting.
@markusdaxamouli5196
@markusdaxamouli5196 5 жыл бұрын
Same people who dont respect no tresspass signs, are ones who dont Honor keep gates closed signs....nothing worse than coming home to property to feed livestock, and find them strewn across county because a hunter came thru and left gate open..
@josephfine3394
@josephfine3394 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you -I learned a lot about the landowner's viewpoints. You're the kind of neighbor we all hope to have, sir. I always ask before entering posted land, and landowners have always been very gracious about it. I also think it helps a lot to share some of your game with the landowner, in appreciation, and I'm happy to do that.
@CrisisGuildWOW
@CrisisGuildWOW 5 жыл бұрын
I fixed my own trespasser problem with road spikes. After a few flat tires, the trespassing stopped pretty quick without courts, lawyers, sheriffs, etc. Problem Solved.
@jazzcatt
@jazzcatt 5 жыл бұрын
Do that in the state I live in and I'd bet the jerk would sue you, and win. Bet you can guess which state I live in.
@zacamness3404
@zacamness3404 5 жыл бұрын
@@jazzcatt Hawaii?
@jazzcatt
@jazzcatt 5 жыл бұрын
@@zacamness3404 Good guess but you'll have to try again. LOL!
@504daniel7
@504daniel7 5 жыл бұрын
Cat Jefferson louisiana? lmaooo i doubt it but its pretty messed up like that here
@muddrudder2656
@muddrudder2656 5 жыл бұрын
Michigan...
@VelvetRedRoses
@VelvetRedRoses 5 жыл бұрын
When we looked at property, we told our Real Estate agent that we wanted direct access from a public road and not via an easement through someone else's property. We did purchase a nice piece with that criteria met. We have great neighbors, but each are very protective of what is theirs as well as what is ours. Good for you for standing your ground and working with the Sheriff and your title company. Handy to have a professional as a spouse, too! God bless.
@TheModernVIkingNor
@TheModernVIkingNor 6 жыл бұрын
i totaly agree, i acsedently trespassed on somones property. (me and my then gf set up a camp and a fireplace) he came whit an rifle, sayin it was his property, i politley asked him for time to pack up, and clean up afther us before we leave, he told us we could stay there for the time we wanted (2 nights) on 1 condision, that we made sure we cleaned up everyting afther us. i gave him a beer, said thanks, and 2 nights later clean up everyting, and left, walked past him on our way out told him thanks, and said he had a wonderfull camping spot, but also said we wont come back widaout premission again
@davidharrison6615
@davidharrison6615 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Viking that was very nice of both you and the man who owns the land . you may both now become Englishman for being nice . we like nice a lot !!! lol
@rainmaker3916
@rainmaker3916 5 жыл бұрын
Fix the grammar!! Capitalize to start a sentence.
@christeraxell3011
@christeraxell3011 5 жыл бұрын
Don Rindahl Ohoooh here comes the languageofficer with the citation😝
@haskellbailey1841
@haskellbailey1841 5 жыл бұрын
Haha hahaha hahahaha that was funny man cant spell
5 жыл бұрын
That was nice of you. Polite. Not cocky. Everybody walked away happy.
@rickcross3145
@rickcross3145 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a small piece of land here in Michigan. It is surrounded on 3 sides by farm land. My neighbor told me how the previous owner (a lowlife druggy deadbeat) who fought in court for 3 years to keep the property he refused to make his payments on. Told the farmer he could no longer drive his pickup on the 50 foot corner of both property lines so he could check his field. So the first thing I did was drove strait to that farmers house telling him he had every right to use that corner of my driveway to access his field. That's 50 feet so he doesn't have to spend thousands on a driveway in a deep ditch. In your case you would be giving up almost a acre of land that you still have to pay taxes on to a man who disrespected you off the bat. I wouldn't do it either. Now given this guy never comes out there.if he would have stopped and been cordial I see you allowing him access if he notified you first and remained respectful. But not as a normal easement. All you haters on here need to understand just because your hotel room has a adjoining door to mine doesn't mean you have the right to walk through my room to get to yours if you can't open your door. Think of it that way
@infowolf1
@infowolf1 5 жыл бұрын
no one sane can think of it that way, because the space issues and proximity to your person and personal living space are so extremely different it is hard to imagine anyone coming up with such a similitude. do you have some boundary deficit mental problem that has you equating your own body and person with every inch of maybe even desolate ground you own? sheesh.
@lindawoods6841
@lindawoods6841 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much...it gets scary when people come on your property without permission..very well explained...and no one that owns property would be just the way you are...you have to protect it all...no way i wouldn;t let him go through....they need to find another way to get it...
@JamesCouch777
@JamesCouch777 5 жыл бұрын
Don't give him or anyone else an easement. It just causes problems and lowers the value if your property. He started off on the wrong foot by not coming to you before trespassing. Do you have an update on this? I had to put up fences to keep trespassers off.
@bmphil3400
@bmphil3400 5 жыл бұрын
we bought landlocked land.....however we had an agreement set up with the adjacent landowner to BUY a transferrable easement if we bought the land......worked out well..... we got our land....got easement recorded.....paid the other land owner......no problem......it now has a small road on it to get from paved road frontage to the back of our land..... the upside of this is that we got the land pretty darn cheap because it was landlocked and no access made the land worth less.....but we worked out a payment to the adjacent landowner for the easement that was fairly inexpensive. Now we have access to road, power grid, municipal water.......if we need it.
@CampCreekGrass
@CampCreekGrass 6 жыл бұрын
I have been down this road with the same guy on my deer lease 3 times finally had him arrested and charged. He was charged with criminal trespass a felony. Now he’s a convicted felon and crying the blues. Tough shit.
@countryfrau8328
@countryfrau8328 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. I'm a landowner, also, and have issues. It is very stressful. You really do just want to live in peace. That is a big reason why you are out there. Here's my story: I get pretty upset because I'm 100% respectful of property lines and property rights. I get worked up by reminding myself that I would never presume to do X to others's property. One thing I found out was that when people find out you own land they are very quick to try to get hunting rights from you. Ahhhh, no. And then of course others want to cut wood or others ask if they can ride their ATVs on your property. I made the mistake of saying yes to one neighbor who had little kids who then grew up and started bringing their friends along and their riding styles sure changed over time. Gone were the little kids who put-putted along behind their dad. And boy do they get pissed about not having permission to hunt my land. The issue is that the kids used to come around without permission shooting snakes (booooo!) and so forth and bringing their friends. Then the friends think it is their hunting property also and they bring others and you get everyone thinking it is part of their hunting grounds. I'm sorry but the smartest thing you can do is say no right off the bat. It's easier to ease up later once you know everyone (if you want to) but way harder to clamp down. I will never forget when one neighbor in particular buried his dead goats on my property in the soft soil used for perc testing without my permission and that same neighbor towed a huge boat onto my property without my permission to store in one of my outbuildings. I kid you not. I will always remember walking with their kids in the woods on my property when we first got there and the kids started taking out the survey stakes. I was like "What are you doing??" and they said their mom had told them ON A PRIOR WALK that I didn't know about that it was okay to do that!! It just goes on and on. I remember the mother calling our property "(our last name) Park." My last interaction with the dad was when he blew past me in his pickup one day to load up a tree that he had cut down ON MY PROPERTY and when I confronted him he said that I could work out a deal with his son who was gonna to split the wood to PAY the son for some of the wood. I just snapped. He was offended which is a hoot. He removed all the game cameras, hunting stands and hunting sheds that he had hidden around in my woods. (Large property and I'm mostly focused on mowing and gardening so I'm not in the woods that much.) I'd like to get a UTV so I can patrol the property better and faster. You see, part of the problem was that I lived in town and was just there a couple of days a week. Oh, and people like to drive up on my property and then say that their hunting dogs with radio collars are up in the mountains behind me so it's okay. Ahhh, no. Some fencing and gating has helped but I'm gonna have to do more. Being out there fulltime and making everyday homestead noise (including pistol practice) and keeping your gate locked 24/7 also helps.
@pamelaraney4654
@pamelaraney4654 6 жыл бұрын
Country Frau get your own cameras
@countryfrau8328
@countryfrau8328 6 жыл бұрын
You are so right! I live nervous that their family is still sneaking around.
@nmprice09
@nmprice09 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up i a city, but went hunting with my parents all the time. If we tracked a deer to a private property we went to the owner and requested permission to finish tracking and receive the deer. If the owner said no then we left the deer there, even if it was a foot on their property. Never once were we told no, but we also hardly had to track a deer very far.
@countryfrau8328
@countryfrau8328 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. I have found rolled up deer skins, arrows, shotgun shell casings, etc on my land. And I see huge marks in some of my trees from people shooting on my land! Two different neighbors have hunting stands that face INTO my land! Geesh. I always think "Would I do this to anyone?" and the answer is always no!
@julieankhan.2801
@julieankhan.2801 6 жыл бұрын
Country Frau - I have property that is being used by the guy who does county deeds. He found out my family isn't around. I don't know what to do to keep him off My land.
@kahalak8171
@kahalak8171 5 жыл бұрын
Great guy. Good for him - he's nobody's fool. I'd like to have him as our neighbor.
@Ragnar676
@Ragnar676 5 жыл бұрын
Damn straight..im 34 years old at this point & as i tell people i was raised on old cars old music & old values..& they work. don't fix whats not broke.
@Tsiri09
@Tsiri09 6 жыл бұрын
I was raised to be a civilized human being. No trespassing signs are just as important as stop signs. I respect people's private property. Those who think that they can just jump someone's fence and then scream that property rights are non-existent should live in an apartment their whole lives.
@katiebwheeler
@katiebwheeler 6 жыл бұрын
Love the way you are being level headed about all of it, knowing where you stand legally etc. Sorry you have this headache to deal with now, but respect how you are handling it all. I'd love to have you for a neighbor!
@BSWORDMAN
@BSWORDMAN 5 жыл бұрын
We feel your pain. And your a nice guy helping people understand how it really works. Thanks.
@1Whitetail
@1Whitetail 3 ай бұрын
I take my hat off to you for staying calm at a time people don't respect others who worked for what they have. Stand by your rights and God bless your family.
@pattimessenger6214
@pattimessenger6214 5 жыл бұрын
I was using trail cameras for security at my rural property. Last year, someone cut a lock on my gate, and stole all of my cameras along with about $15,000 worth of equipment. I got some RING spotlight cams. We got them installed and set up the following week. We left the property, and an hour and a half later received a RING alert. I watched in real time as a strange truck pulled into view, pulling OUR utility trailer. I called our local sheriff deputy. He headed out to our property, and was nearly to our gate when the thieves were done looting our place. He arrested them. The next day search warrants were served at the homes of the two who were arrested. A small sawmill that had been stolen a week earlier was found in one of the men’s garages. Get cameras that allow you to watch what trespassers are doing in real time. I can’t wait for the jury to watch the video of the thieves that hit us ransacking the place to their heart’s content.
@josedaniel4725
@josedaniel4725 5 жыл бұрын
Damn bandits!😡 Thank goodness for technology and a quick sheriff. Hopefully all your gear is returned and is in working condition. My cousins dirt bike was stolen and recovered but was never the same after theft. Since the theft was only 60 days old the judge granted restitution and thief was ordered to pay for repairs or new one, justice......
@drhorribly
@drhorribly 5 жыл бұрын
Any follow up to that?
@peterschryver
@peterschryver 5 жыл бұрын
Patti Messenger do you need an internet connection at that location or do they work off satellite or cell tower?
@infowolf1
@infowolf1 5 жыл бұрын
now this is a legitimate issue.
@ndjingle
@ndjingle 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Schryver I use spartan cameras. They are cellular connected. Batteries last about 6 months. I get real-time texts immediately. Sometimes it’s just deer and raccoons. But often I catch people trespassing in real time.
@westpur
@westpur 6 жыл бұрын
You seam like a cool dude. I own 20 acres and it has been work to keep trespassers out. But all fenced up with 2 anatolian shepherds protecting my sheep. An for those who cross the fence now, better be faster then my dogs.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
😂
@onawhim7737
@onawhim7737 5 жыл бұрын
Don't know where you're at but be careful. If it's not properly posted you could be held liable by a trespasser if they are injured on your property. Fences don't count for much. Don't know why that is... Just sayin
@mattburns4859
@mattburns4859 5 жыл бұрын
westpur Oh you have a trained 4 legged recon team too😁
@Rangoslap8
@Rangoslap8 5 жыл бұрын
2 Anatolian....WOW. Most people have idea what they are. They sure are not german shepherds. Good for you.
@mrs.garcia6978
@mrs.garcia6978 5 жыл бұрын
We'll never buy a place w/o the $ to fence it immediately bc of the same exact reason. 👍👍 We have a GP, his size alone keeps people out.
@RajeshSharma-uk6yp
@RajeshSharma-uk6yp 5 жыл бұрын
Looking for.land learned alot like land lock and easements thanks for.the knowledge
@tonypendley7341
@tonypendley7341 5 жыл бұрын
100% in agreement with you. It’s yours, you own it, you set the guidelines of use and access. 👍🏻👍🏻
@stubbykca9196
@stubbykca9196 5 жыл бұрын
I would never step on anyone's property without asking first. I agree with you.
@infowolf1
@infowolf1 5 жыл бұрын
how you gonna ask first if you don't have their phone number, no cell service maybe and you gotta go on their land to get to their door to knock and ask?
@markwatney8641
@markwatney8641 5 жыл бұрын
US Postal Service ?
@theresawheeler4566
@theresawheeler4566 6 жыл бұрын
You're totally correct!!! RESPECT!!! No Trespassing means No Trespassing... period!!! I see nothing wrong with your attitude, but then, I was raised the same way as you! I'm just sorry this even happened!
@philk9948
@philk9948 5 жыл бұрын
You’re a great guy with great values, especially respect for others and their stuff.
@jazzcatt
@jazzcatt 5 жыл бұрын
Amen to what you said, especially seeing as you only have 20 acres. To live off the grid and only have 20 acres to raise animals and farm, losing a 5th of it to give an easement to some stranger would be crazy. I am hoping one day, to be able to get the ever lovin' hell out of the city and to be able to own land so I can have the peace, quiet and privacy I so desperately desire! If I am ever so fortunate, I'd like to have neighbors like you, and to be a neighbor like you. My husband and I are now too old to be able to work land like you do. I just want to have the land, leave it natural, and be able to live as close to the center of it as we can for maximum privacy. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Trespassers would, indeed, be a frightening thing to me.
@AZbrokerhelp
@AZbrokerhelp 6 жыл бұрын
As hard & painful it's been for you.. We THANK YOU for sharing. We come here to learn, and this is a caution we wouldn't have known how to approach. You handled this Right👍
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m learning as well on this one. Hopefully not too hard of a lesson
@vspinkboi
@vspinkboi 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I just watched the 1st trespasser video, and this was uploaded 2 minutes ago! Good timing!
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Tony D you are welcome!!😁
@joederochemont6219
@joederochemont6219 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. 100% agree with every single word you spoke. This country needs so many more people like you. Thank you. Freedom!
@natemeyer12
@natemeyer12 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent info on easements when I go to buy land I will certainly go and do my homework before I buy! Thanks for the info!
@mariadrivera5589
@mariadrivera5589 6 жыл бұрын
Thats your land, your security for your kids future and you have invested your money, work and sacrifice for it just doesn't pay attention to those people who don't care. GBU. Love your channel. Beautiful family. Enjoy your mother's day weekend.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being with us. You have a great weekend as well😊
@mrs8792
@mrs8792 6 жыл бұрын
It’s really important that you posted these two videos. I’m in southern Oregon and we have a lot of homeless tweakers moving in from California. I live 20 minutes out of the small city and those dirt bags are coming out in the country now, which makes me furious! I don’t want to worry about a bunch of weirdos camping on or near where I live. I’ve been financially supporting myself since I was 16 years old and those losers can just get their act together and stop sponging off society.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
teresa Klein good for you! Glad you found us.😊
@sandylake304
@sandylake304 5 жыл бұрын
Love it when people know their property rights! You did it with a cool head and the law.
@B_Clauva
@B_Clauva 4 жыл бұрын
And this is why you do research/ask questions!!! People these days!!🤬 I love the way you remind me of ME!!! My wife does not like conflict but I believe in OUR RIGHTS!!🤙😜 I love being the nice guy and knowing my rights. Show respect to get respect!!
@1995jug
@1995jug 6 жыл бұрын
Have the same problem with deer hunters, I solved the problem by allowing the game warden the only one with permission to hunt, he has caught hunters on the land without permission and fined them.
@giin97
@giin97 6 жыл бұрын
joe tiller hah, nice!
@TrueGoose117
@TrueGoose117 6 жыл бұрын
Smart
@julieankhan.2801
@julieankhan.2801 6 жыл бұрын
joe tiller - my elderly parents had people trespassing saying they were tracking deer. It was posted. Game warden said he'd have to catch them in the act. Really? I told my mom; tell them you lol follow them to help them track the poor deer. That will stop them.
@sickpsycho2012
@sickpsycho2012 6 жыл бұрын
That is awesome
@davidharrison6615
@davidharrison6615 6 жыл бұрын
joe tiller that was a good idea . you thought that out very well !!
@superdayday3462
@superdayday3462 6 жыл бұрын
Like the video and the new law, we have a lot of people in CA just coming on property, and setting up camp/home. Trying to move them out is a large problem. Wish you and your family the best on this trespass issue.
@getoutofCanadaB4its2late
@getoutofCanadaB4its2late 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that I live in an area where the subdividing of land is strictly regulated. My farmland can only have a 1/4 section divided ONCE. Land closer to town can be divided providing it fits a litany of prescribed requirements; access is just one of them. I can't believe property is being divided the way it is down there. There have to be limits to the freedom and liberty for land use! Keep up the good fight and continue to defend the CORRECT stance you have to your rightful and legal land ownership. ~peace!
@nancymcglinn7669
@nancymcglinn7669 5 жыл бұрын
You would think this gentleman and his agent would have some class, like you do. It’s called RESPECT!!!!!! It gated. It’s like a closed door. It’s closed for a reason.
@StripeyType
@StripeyType 6 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head there with your approach. If the fella's going to be your neighbor, it doesn't pay to start off your interactions on a sour note. You were definitely the adult here, while for whatever reason he and his agent decided to act like children. I'm hopeful that after what started as some really bad behavior on his part that this is really all a misunderstanding. It is always nice to see somebody act responsibly, as you've done here.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James.
@rewfisher1
@rewfisher1 5 жыл бұрын
You sound like a real decent guy. What's right is right. Stick to your beliefs and the right path.
@barneyrubble736
@barneyrubble736 5 жыл бұрын
I REALLY admire that your two videos on easment were so informative and peaceful. I am definitely proud that you explained more about easements, and increased my understanding of easements. I admire the reasoning behind your feelings behind not having easements splitting your property... ideas that I had never considered or experienced. Now, I have your experience to give me food for thought for my future experiences. :)
@andreatapley5248
@andreatapley5248 5 жыл бұрын
I personally feel you've been handling this situation very well. You're living the dream.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@seanjeffares3800
@seanjeffares3800 6 жыл бұрын
These two videos about these trespassers were the first two I saw and now Im subscribing.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing!!
@butchbragg6116
@butchbragg6116 6 жыл бұрын
glad to see ppl protecting there own property no reason not to a lot of ppl just don't care great job brotha
@gregmartin9402
@gregmartin9402 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber. You are a very patient man and have every right to protect your property. I have signs and cameras on my property. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
@bonniehowell6604
@bonniehowell6604 5 жыл бұрын
You are the most calm & well reasoned person. Staying calm is half the battle. I’m very interested in the outcome.
@mikebavoso26
@mikebavoso26 6 жыл бұрын
I know what you're going through. 40 years ago I had the same experience. The moron that own the lot that had no Street access decided to build his own Road with a D12 bulldozer across my property and start building a house when we weren't home. Our lovely neighbors were afraid to call us and let us know what was happening. I came by one day when all the contractors were up the road working on the house, I ordered two 50 ton loads of 3 inch River Rock and piled it on my side, on my property and block the road and they could not get their vehicles out for months. I had every one of his contractor on my side willing to help and testify so they could get their pickups out of the job site. He sued me and lost, it cost him a fortune. Every contractor countersued him, every Insurance Company of the contractors sued him and I purchased his property at a bargain price... good luck
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened out here. Guy ripped up land that isn’t his, to punch in a road...
5 жыл бұрын
Another example of an asshole. If he had talked to you BEFORE he bought the land....and been a gentleman about it.....you probably would have allowed access. But he was an asshole.....and would have REMAINED an asshole for the rest of the time he lived next to you. Goddam....what a horrific story. Betcha that guy became a future student of "Trump University".....where you learn how to cheat in business....and life......from the Master of lying and cheating.
@methods20
@methods20 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Bavoso no you didn’t
@rileydunn3695
@rileydunn3695 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crappp what a legend! that’s the way to handle things! 👍
@link1094
@link1094 5 жыл бұрын
Cat never made a commercially available D12. Get lost with your bullshit.
@Wolverine8141
@Wolverine8141 5 жыл бұрын
I can't understand why landlocked parcels of land are drawn up in the first place.
@ramblingrambo3
@ramblingrambo3 5 жыл бұрын
it happens
@bredgamedeadgame
@bredgamedeadgame 5 жыл бұрын
@@ramblingrambo3 , thanks, Captain Obvious.
@marybirchfield42
@marybirchfield42 5 жыл бұрын
Most the time, there is an access, but it runs across family land, and no one thinks they need a "legal" right of way. Then several generations down the road, someone sells a parcel to an outsider who blocks off access to the other heirs
@walkerholder9765
@walkerholder9765 5 жыл бұрын
Fly in.
@daisyladyklg8538
@daisyladyklg8538 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think that the vast majority is as a result of many land divisions done over many years and generally the last one done prior to laws against it
@tcarter431
@tcarter431 5 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear! Well said brother do your thing and live correctly! God speed
@oldwolf1928
@oldwolf1928 6 жыл бұрын
Keep on keeping on! You are handling it all in the right manner, nothing like I did....Lol
@mtdowns
@mtdowns 6 жыл бұрын
You are an inspiration, I just found your channel, but I truly respect your values, your candor, and they way you handle yourself. Keep doing what you're doing friend.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for subbing!👍🏻
@williamwelch7
@williamwelch7 5 жыл бұрын
I think your "rants" about this are not really wasted energy. Your response and insight can be an inspiration to others facing the same challenges. I thank you again for sharing this.
@wildlifebushcraft6819
@wildlifebushcraft6819 5 жыл бұрын
You are a guy I highly respect. I wish you were my neighbor.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Wild Life BushCraft I appreciate that. Thank you.
@fred4513
@fred4513 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 Thanks for update !!! He needs a huew ! Neevveer buy landlocked property !!! Just keep homesteading, enjoying your kids and critters!!!!🤠
@kylecowboy121
@kylecowboy121 6 жыл бұрын
You have worked hard for your land and did you homework on your property before you bought it i hope it all works out for you and your family best of luck .
@maxall03
@maxall03 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree and you handled it great, probably better than I would have.
@pastorjustin4181
@pastorjustin4181 4 жыл бұрын
Your confidence is contagious. Thank You!!! 😊😊🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁😎😎 and informative educational 😊😊 Your a good egg charlie brown 😁
@mrs8792
@mrs8792 6 жыл бұрын
So glad to find your channel. Thank you so much for sharing.
@reelfishingnw2372
@reelfishingnw2372 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, I've been watching for it. You're a smart guy, I like the way you think.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I don’t know about that, but thank you!
@andrewthomas1261
@andrewthomas1261 5 жыл бұрын
Make the easement a "toll" road. Then, keep increasing the toll. $1 a trip (each way) , then $2, then $3..and so on until he gives up...lol
@cpmtrad250
@cpmtrad250 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Thomas unfortunately, this would be racketeering lol, too bad though.
@Blanddog
@Blanddog 5 жыл бұрын
@@cpmtrad250 I was wondering if that was legal. lol
@mmatthews61687
@mmatthews61687 5 жыл бұрын
$1 on the way in, $10,000 on the way out.
@victoriabower7547
@victoriabower7547 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Thomas That’s an idea, however it would be a giant hassle.
@gregmyhometownhostetter2783
@gregmyhometownhostetter2783 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still with you Buddy, stand your ground, Love it he should have done his homework before buying !!!!
@tstivers1990
@tstivers1990 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree on the homework bit tbh. He fucked up. Everyone does it. His biggest mistake was being an asshole. If he wasn't an asshole, his life probably would have been a hell of a lot easier. But, because he was an asshole, he made his life a lot more difficult. If he wasn't an asshole, he probably could have negotiated a favorable deal. He still should have done his homework. But I think he could have worked through that mistake without too much trouble if he wasn't a dick about it.
@billcharlton1429
@billcharlton1429 5 жыл бұрын
Your property. Enough said. Attitudes not allowed. I am with you. Pound sand comes to mind.
@conticarbon
@conticarbon 6 жыл бұрын
I own property in south-eastern utah (42 acres) and I've had a similar experience but the new owner was respectful and didn't understand easement issues. This was about 15 years ago. That neighbor and I came to a written agreement and we've gotten along ever since. The main problem is that the that guy should have come to you and your neighbors with respect and shown that he wanted to be a positive influence in that area. I'm sure you all could have worked something out.
@sirroi3310
@sirroi3310 8 ай бұрын
You were blessed with the property and the people who blessed you with the property from them a gift to you do your research before you act or purchase when you wanta settle love thy neighbors
@denasewell
@denasewell 5 жыл бұрын
This is extremely valuable to Newbie Homesteaders looking to buy land ...to not make the mistake of buying a landlocked property with no access..this has happened to people I know...As much as it sucks people have some nerve being disrespectful and demanding! Kudos to you for protecting your family and land from predators and trespassers!
@lexboegen
@lexboegen 6 жыл бұрын
I think that you're handling this in a very adult and responsible manner. I would consider myself fortunate to have you as a neighbor. I hope that this resolves soon and in your favor. I subscribed after watching this and the previous trespassing video. I like your attitude and values.
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@National757
@National757 6 жыл бұрын
I have done a lot of hunting in my life. Usually on public land. And even then we would check maps for parcels of private land so we could stay away from them. And we would never ever pass a no trespassing sign. You sound like the kind of easy going neighbor that any one would love to have. Good job staying calm, staying rational! Keep the fight in the legal system if it comes to that. Unless your safety is threatened. Then by all means defend yourself. Thanks for sharing.
@dat_sauce_tho2194
@dat_sauce_tho2194 5 жыл бұрын
From a fellow idahoan I respect the hell out of the way you handled this situation. Very level headed, earned a subscriber!
@NorthCountryOffgrid
@NorthCountryOffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! 👍🏻 appreciate the support. Lot of liberal haters out there thinking this land should be shared.
@butchcavendish1995
@butchcavendish1995 5 жыл бұрын
@@NorthCountryOffgrid Liberal haters more than likely think that you own to much land and the govt. needs to confiscate(steal) some of it to build ghettoes for all the illegal aliens their letting traipse across our southern border. I figure in 25 years no one will be allowed to own more than a postage stamp size lot in this country. SMH at this crap!
@timowens580
@timowens580 5 жыл бұрын
WAY TO GO !!!!! THE MAN IN QUESTION SHOWED YOU , NO RESPECT ... YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, SHOWED RESPECT AND RESTRAINT !!!! A BIG THUMBS UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Piaphamu
@Piaphamu 6 жыл бұрын
No way I'm letting anyone drive through my property. Good for you.
@bradfordmichaels2307
@bradfordmichaels2307 6 жыл бұрын
"You mean me an' my buds can't just come ripping through there all morning on ATVs ripping up your fescue, rutting the hell out of your nice road, and scaring your kids? [this is where I would expect to never be heard from again.]
@mintsiez
@mintsiez 6 жыл бұрын
If the trespasser was smart he would try and sell you the land it would be alot cheaper than taking everyone to court
@darreldean5295
@darreldean5295 5 жыл бұрын
mintsiez I was thinking the same
@SeptrothFFXI
@SeptrothFFXI 5 жыл бұрын
mintsiez or buy a helicopter 😂😂😂
@bruhmode283
@bruhmode283 5 жыл бұрын
@@SeptrothFFXI airplanes are cheaper 😂
@whoswhonow
@whoswhonow 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. I have been looking for land and will be homesteading in the future so thanks for the heads up on what to expect.
@jasone9729
@jasone9729 5 жыл бұрын
Amen! I just found your channel and watched your 2 videos about this easement issue. I feel you handeled it like a gentleman and hope I would have handeled it as well. In the land of the free and the home of the brave a man should never have to apologize for standing up for what is rightfully his, period. At the same time we should always conduct ourselves showing respect to others until they dont deserve our respect, which it sounds like you did quite well. Keep living the dream, you just earned another subscriber from western Pennsylvania.
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