Updated Tutorial on "Manipulating" Echo Substats on Wuthering Waves

[@Godsthetics]

10 minutes for that... the hell?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

welcome to our way of upgrading

[@frostice961]

10 minutes for N days/months of use of echoes. definitely worth it

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@frostice961 actaully somewhat true and not i guess. the echos i had were all from the event(the free ones morphable) same time yes I login and burn energy at tacet fields then log off. takes about 5mins but hey thats all my dailys done

[@LumyTheQueen]

Thank you so much for this update video. It seems Wuwa is way simpler to manipulate than Star Rail, I'll defenitely be giving this a try!

[@krysiuuk]

This changed my echo rolling, my Zhezhi is right now 70/310 bcs i was so freaking lucky with rolls. When i was rolling at '7 minute mark sometimes i got all echoes with double crit rolls lol

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Yep yep gotta love probability recording.

[@TrầnAnhTuấn-u7c]

"This is BS!" is what I have been saying seeing you upgrade and getting CR CDMG, but well, I can't really deny that it seems to work, will try it

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Just aiming for better probabilities. 🤣

[@anrye]

didnt even need this xd got my encore to 80/270 through sheer dumb luck

[@BigBoiPnoy]

correct players that dont think about this stuff. then yep it's luck. Not everyone has that. Just trying to help the other players that need it.

[@meliho27]

well tried out and got a pretty nice double crit substat echo just now, thaanq for this, gonna try out with more echos in future

[@BigBoiPnoy]

nice man. congrats

[@ivanmavia7352]

I really hope we can get some kind of echo substats reroll kinda thing in the future because i got shtty echoes substats all the time even when doing this. Or at least give more exp tubes and tuner

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@ivanmavia7352 I need more tubes also… tubers are fine at least….

[@dhambz23]

I used the old method and noticed I get good rolls every 9 minute mark in addition to a 7-minute mark. Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao were my fastest characters to be built with double crit rolls. Funnily enough, I also developed my personal "ritual." 😅

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Rituals be weird man. Honestly overall I just go by time method still 🤣

[@dhambz23]

@BigBoiPnoy Yeah, it's just fun that rituals are for make-believe. You lose nothing in return, but at this rate, the time method is the best thing that ever happened to my relic/echo hunting across my gacha games.

[@BigBoiPnoy]

😉

[@Bakalbo]

Nice guide bro! Dun sa level nung echo may factor din ba kung every lvl 10, 20, 25 yung ups bago mag roll?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Naw. I just did it that way to save materials. Previous videos I was doing 3-4 rolls at once. You can go single rolls if you want also pare.

[@_Ririn09]

Tqsm for tips finally i got good echo😭😭

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Welcome bro

[@johankaruyan5536]

it doesnt work guys, dont waste ur time, just roll

[@BigBoiPnoy]

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[@liambowers9489]

I have 5x double crit on every single set. How many double crits do you have?

[@johankaruyan5536]

@@liambowers9489 0, I literally tried this like 15 times, I only got crit twice

[@liambowers9489]

@@johankaruyan5536 bad clicks/ping there’s a couple different ways to try this. There’s absolutely no way I’m rolling 5x double crit in a row naturally.

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@liambowers9489 me? Hold on let me login Edit : 45 double crit echos so far on the characters I use so far. I barely play though. I login. Daily burn energy. Log off.

[@liambowers9489]

Educated gambling 🙂‍↔️🥴

[@BigBoiPnoy]

think of it as card counting but for gacha games. It's what my own community does for each big gacha game

[@Vanpercy13]

This is actually scary how well this worked

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Yep

[@TiredOfFeelings]

Ayoooooo thats crazy!!!

[@carloguatengco6402]

The true gambling lord for echo substat 😂

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Not just wuwa. I do it in other games also.

[@BabaYaga0713]

So I’m a little confused but to be clear. For example if I want to test this out myself and my goal is to roll on the x7, 7 minute mark, then I will roll at 4:37, 4:07, etc. but try to click tune on any 5 second intervals within that 7minute mark?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

correct. just make sure you click abit earlier depending on your lag. The roll is done server side. So you need to account for that

[@osky3301]

I'm curious about this method, I tried it but not with this guide, but I don't know why I found a pattern. I tried tuning 6 echoes by tuning 3 at once in each echo without following this guide, 4 echoes got crit rate and the 2 didn't. ah maybe it's just luck.

[@BigBoiPnoy]

3 at a time was how I did it in my old video…. Players started copying it and doing their own video on it. I only did it to save time 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I can do single tunes if I wanted. But that’ll take even longer.

[@osky3301]

@@BigBoiPnoy I just saw your channel appear on the homepage, maybe I'll see the video where you did 3 tunings at once, which video? maybe there are similarities. I also just found out that there is a method like this in the gacha game from your channel and this is my first time playing a gacha game and also don't know about copying other people's methods

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@osky3301 it’s the ones I pointed out in this video. They are under my channel. I separated the WuWa ones onto a playlist also

[@bano3s]

why would people bother to submit their 'data' if they do not get any good rolls? doesnt this give a much larger bias

[@BigBoiPnoy]

go ahead and check the discord. they show everything. Over time the ones that are continuing to show there data overtake the ones that show 1 test and disappear(these single tests are either bad or good). Same time once again there's human error and there's little we can do with that. Also this isn't guaranteed anyway. All we did was calculate probability at certain time frames

[@slinksiamang747]

it cannot be this serious 😭

[@BigBoiPnoy]

it is

[@jordy_indo45]

hello i am using (5-pc) void thunder ? should i switch to lingering tunes"

[@woKenVFX]

you don't have to but if you want you can

[@WidadSadki]

If Ur thundering is good , U don't have to , as long as U know how to activate it's passive , but if Ur set is bad , then switching is good , cuz LT is easy to use , I personally use it

[@BigBoiPnoy]

I personally went with lingering cause it’s easier to combo with. If you have a better set for void thunder then use that.

[@player0fcardz]

I'm trying to have my clock like yours at the bottom left corner when I'm recording. But my recording shows a window for the website, like the whole browser window. How did you crop yours just to show the time?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

There’s a way to crop it on obs. I forgot how I did it 🤣.

[@player0fcardz]

@@BigBoiPnoy I appreciate the response. It helped lead me to my answer. Right click > Filter > Crop

[@iamthechampion2296]

I am a bit new in echomancing here! Can you me specifically for SEA server?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Server don’t matter

[@Ok-nz7gy]

i tried and didnt get a single crit stat for 29 rolls at XX:X7:X5/0, :').

[@BigBoiPnoy]

I think I should suggest if you don’t get crits in like 6 upgrades. Wait an hour then try again

[@frostice961]

i tried with odd minute + multiples of 5 in seconds and it worked. mostly 1 crit roll but usable enough also pressing before the actual +5 seconds does the trick. like when all of the stats show, it should be just in time for the 5.10.15 etc... second

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@frostice961 which was the whole point.

[@Sol.839]

I see ur milliseconds click timing is 9+ which I followed Tried ten echos with lvl10 at X7 and X9 with 0 15 30 45 I got only 1crit rate with atk... Is it my bad day Xd

[@BigBoiPnoy]

click earlier. i failed my own clicks on this video also.... the ones where i got no crit i clicked on the second mark and not before it. Same time I can't say much cause there's still probability involved.

[@Sol.839]

I try again with 200+ tuners Much better I apply seeding method and time marks method Thanks for experimental video👍

[@S0ULR3AP3R13]

Is the time based on our local time or based on the server time?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

@@S0ULR3AP3R13 well rolls are done server side. So it’s time based on server time.

[@S0ULR3AP3R13]

@@BigBoiPnoy neat. thx fr da reply.

[@Difelder]

Gambling ritual 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@skulmask9647]

Why did this work 😭😭😭😭😭

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Cause the genius society does their research.

[@gorkemusprime]

will this work on the 5 tuning at same time?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

tune as much many as you want. its up to you. I did 2 at a time to save materials

[@Zorahime29]

is that the better echo set for xiangli yao?

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Overall damage no. I went lingering cause it flowed better when combining with him. I think the difference is like 1 - 2% for the lightning set Consider your substats also.

[@toffiehacker3701]

😮

[@SulfuricAngel]

are you in asia server? i still not understand, for america what ia the correct time, in minutes and seconds? thanks in advance

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Server doesn’t matter. Cause you are aiming for minutes, seconds, and milliseconds

[@Safineya]

Nah this is all bs. I'll never believe in this but it's funny to watch.

[@BigBoiPnoy]

Sit Back, Relax, and don't kill our fun. It's just a theory anyway.

[@Neegamind]

It works. I fully built my main dps efficiently using this method.