UPGRADED Ginault Ocean Rover 2.5 Review - Vintage Rolex Submariner Vibes!

[@RickChuckolt]

I have enjoyed this far more than my submariner.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

It’s really stunning. The indices pop so well thanks to that amazing crystal!

[@matthewkerrison4735]

Great video, great watch and at the end of the day, you should just wear what you want. The funny thing about this hobby is that the reality is 99.9% of people will never know or indeed care what watch you’re wearing. In general, people comment when they think it looks nice, not ‘wow, is that a 5 digit submariner?´ - never happens. In short, hommage or not, shady story or not, just buy what you like and enjoy it. I will never judge anyone by their watch, I just think that us, as watch enthusiasts, should encourage people to wear them. That’s it. As a watch, original design or not, the OR2 blue bezel is a very pretty dive watch.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Well said! If you see this product for what it is, you can’t deny it’s a great looking watch.

[@acura_j37]

Sweet looking watch! Love the blue bezel.

[@peacelove4994]

Great video! Can you do a video comparison between the OR2.5 and your Sub? I would love to hear your thoughts after handling both in person.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thank you! The comparison video is on my queue 😉

[@peacelove4994]

@@BrokeWatchFanatic nice! Looking forward to it!

[@RichD-n1b]

I just received my OR 2.5 yesterday along with the new blue dial Expeditioner with a cyclops I might add. That was an extra $130 bucks, though well worth it. Ginault is absolutely killing it with these watches. I wore the OR 2.5 yesterday upon arrival and later that evening switched to the Exp. As I'm writing this I am wearing the OR, and can't believe how comfortable and beautiful this piece is. Ginault is punching way above the belt here. I didn't think anything would be as comfortable as my Omega SM300 on rubber a strap. Well guess what, this is!

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Glad you’re enjoying the Ginault!

[@thegorn]

Great coverage thanks. I'm more than happy with my Ginault OR 2.0. I measured the thickness of mine at 12.5mm ... .3mm thicker but I think a watch can be too thin. I am happy with my bracelet. The only thing I wish for is a SW200-1b i.e. a true no-date movement for my Ginault which is a no-date version.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I agree with a watch being too thin. Sometimes you want that heft to it. And that’s why I always opt for the date. I don’t like the ghost position.

[@PapaJa98]

Great review. 11.2 mm thickness is unbelievable.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thanks! 👍

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Great video man. Ginault makes amazing watches!

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thank you! And for sure they do!

[@Eco362]

Really detailed and precise video! Just a question, is there an OR 3 on the way and how do I know if I'm getting the 2 or the 2.5 on the website?

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

No OR3 currently. Honestly I think there’s no need to change it. If you’re ordering from their website now, it’ll be with the upgrades I mentioned. You can always email them too to make sure!

[@tomislavp1352]

Great looking watch and wonderful video review. Bravoooo Ginault! ❤ Only thing which can be improved is clasp. Please sign the clasp and also put some text inside the clasp - all other parts have all detail they needed, only clasp looks like it not belongs to this watch. Also if could clasp be thiner, but then we will lose on the fly adjustment. Please improve the clasp and sold it separately for current owners. 😀

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

The Ginault logo sticking out halfway on the flip lock would look great.

[@pauljackson6593]

@@tomislavp1352 I spoke to John at Ginault when I bought one in 2017. He said the bracelet is Chinese sourced .

[@EricZ726]

Have had it for 3 years. It’s on rotation with other high end Swiss pieces mostly Rolex watches. Love it. If I were to go back, I’d go for the Silence Service.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

They both could belong in the same collection. 😉

[@EricZ726]

@@BrokeWatchFanatic yes. If I already didn’t have 3 Subs already. Seems redundant. Although I would take the Silence Service as trade any day.

[@EagleTrue]

@@EricZ726 what do you prefer with the Silent Service compare to the Rover ?

[@EricZ726]

@@EagleTrue they’re both great. The issue with OR (for me) is that the design is too much Rolex and not enough Ginault. I say that, because I purchased the OR before I got my Sub Hulk and Sub No-Date. It almost doesn’t fit in the collection any more. But if I had the Silent Service, it’d be a perfect addition to the mix.

[@EagleTrue]

@@EricZ726 oh ok I understand. Thank you for your answer

[@jonirwin7316]

I have a SS no date & have a ORII coming. Such high quality watches for little $$$.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Indeed 💯

[@thechosenone236]

Great video man, looks like a solid watch!

[@TopSecretVid]

Love my Ocean Rover!!

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

So do I!

[@mr.eswatchreviews]

Congratulations on your ocean Rover 2 excellent watch

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thank you!

[@tatlertom3090]

Hi, I have the OR2 -- is the OR 2.5 different? I saw on Ginault website -- I see they distinguish the OR from the OR2, but I don't get the sense they have a model that is an advance from the OR2. Thanks for any info. Great review and video. I would LOVE if Ginault would do a GMT.!! I was surprised by they Yachtmaster homage.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Yes. 2.5 has some minor tweaks/upgrades. It’s not advertised as 2.5 on the website (at least not yet) but current orders have the upgrades. I’m sure a GMT will happen at some point in the future.

[@martinkaplan1805]

I really enjoy my Silent Service. Gives me that sub “feel” and has exceptional quality. Very nice addition to my collection.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Agreed 💯

[@carlkim2577]

Does the non date version have a ghost date position?

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I hear it used to but not anymore. Contact the owner on his website and he’ll confirm.

[@bestboy897]

this vid is produced so well i subbed pardon the pun

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@private464]

Probably my next watch...love the inky black dial and ceramic blue bezel insert. NOT sure about the magnified date or maybe the no date version. Q) is the magnified date crystal AS CLEAR and SHARP as the rest of the sapphire crystal? In the video it seems it isn't. I think the Steinharts I have aren't as clear as the rest of the crystal either. Thanks

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

They’re just as clear. The camera just wasn’t focused in that area.

[@private464]

@@BrokeWatchFanatic Thanks. So, the magnified date version is probably worth it as "the one to get". I want to make the right decision, and can only choose one.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I bought the silent service without cyclops and I wish I had added it on. So for me, I opted for the date magnifier this time around.

[@Martyr1207]

Great content as always!

[@pas0003]

Great review! Ginault does really seem like a much more premium homage as compared to Steinhart or Squale. Those two have pretty basic clasp designs, poor bezel feel and operation. The only thing I dislike is the printed text on the dial - "Kinetic continuous date", "Precision chronometer", "hand built in America" all feels like it's trying too hard. Also I'm not sure Hand built in America means much. Which America - North or South? Any specific country? It should say USA if that's what it means.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thank you! At first I was bothered by the text as well but I got over it since the quality is pretty amazing and it’s such a good looking watch!

[@gregnatividad8345]

Have the OR2. My only complaint was the ghost position. Heard they fixed that in the 2.5. Just wish they can do a fully lumed bezel. That would be the next evolution and make me buy another one

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I heard the same with the removal of ghost position!

[@Kurt49]

Just ordered one last night. I have the SS and just wanted the OR 2.5.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

That’s a great 1-2 punch 🥊 congrats!

[@Kurt49]

Just got my customer order from Ginault yesterday and explained about the watch. John recommended videos to watch and they happened to be all the ones you did on BWF. 6 to 8 weeks is what he said was my timeline on receiving the watch. Can't wait.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

You won’t be disappointed. 😉

[@orderofshadow]

that looks good.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

It sure is. 🙂

[@harryschuurmans8235]

I need a Ginault Pepsi GMT

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I feel like it’s only a matter of time… I hope John is reading this!!

[@jacobspath4793]

Ginault just came out with the Expedition model! When review? This is the best OR2 review btw

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Man, so excited to see that on their website. I dunno if I’ll be able to get my hands on one but hopefully one day! And thanks! 🙏

[@jacobspath4793]

@@BrokeWatchFanatic well I ordered a blue dial. Hmu in 2-3 months

[@morgan.enfield]

All we want now is a signed crown and a grrrrrrrrrrreen bezel !

[@Wrist-rolls]

Looks great!

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

Thanks! It’s so good in person too!

[@alexsdg3441]

I am so glad that Ginualt is improving more and more. And be its own. This new 2.5 version is absolutely stunning watch. Initially when the original OR 1 came out, it had various issues, especially movement, but now I wouldn't mind buying this instead of a Tudor! Great Job, Ginault.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

It’s a great sign for the company!

[@Supercruze]

I have one of these Ginault Ocean Rover II No Date purchased this year and received in May 2024.. A very good if not one of the best Rolex homage watches for the money, but I must say the fit and finishing is not on the same level as a Rolex. I really do enjoy my ORII No Date. Anybody saying this watch is better than a Rolex Sub is just flat out wrong.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

You’re not wrong. They are definitely not on the same level, but if you factor in the price to quality ratio, it’s hard to ignore. I’m glad you’re enjoying yours!

[@thegorn]

The fit and finishing of my ORII received late last year is basically the same as a Rolex submariner. Rolex makes over a million watches per year. For their subs the quality control is nothing that special. San Martin even beats Rolex on several points. People need to stop idolising Rolex so much.

[@Supercruze]

@@thegorn - I own a Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 ceramic and I do not idolize Rolex. Quite the opposite. I cannot stand the whole AD thing if you know what I mean. I own a number of micro brands. Never looked at San Martin so cannot speak to that. I will say the Ginault ORII fit and finish is not on par with my Rolex in terms of thickness of the materials used on the bracelet and milling and polishing of the case. Rolex has dead flat surfaces with mirror polish and the ORII case surfaces have waves and mirror polish. Still a very good watch for the money. Still not on par with my Rolex. We will just have to agree to disagree.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

I might have to try out a San Martin one of these days. It seems they have improved a lot over the years.

[@pauljackson6593]

@@Supercruze totally agree I bought one of the first Ginault Ocean Rovers in 2017. And just felt embarrassed as people said you have a Folex. Have since bought an Omega Seamaster and Rolex OP41 lovely watches . Can’t beat the real thing . Want a sub next.

[@Leftystrat]

Bracelet the only saving grace

[@evh4611]

Beautiful

[@brunogravena9742]

They could have done something different like Tudor does. But is just a copy. The bezel, the case, the bracelet the dial are identical, but I have to say that I like does hands

[@kennethg9277]

Well i think the fact that some Rolex enthusiasts add the Ginault to their collection alongside their subs is precisely because Ginault *did* do something different. A case with five digit profile and dimensions, milsub style hands and bezel markings, distinct colorway, but with the advantages of modern materials and bracelet construction. These are the details that float my boat, personally... but you have to be a fan of vintage rolex to appreciate them, perhaps

[@KeepingWatchUK]

Nah you’re alright 😂

[@dainluke]

I wouldn't mind buying one if they didn't have such a shady history with servicing, the origins of their watches, and whether or not their Ginault caliber is actually based off of a Swiss caliber or not.

[@jonirwin7316]

There is no factual evidence to support such claims. It's easy to obtain service too.

[@dainluke]

@@jonirwin7316 While I respect your outlook, they're an incredibly small outfit. Ginault sells watches to regular people, and they are not covered by any of the major watch channels (no disrespect to the smaller ones that do). The anecdotal inputs from individuals who opened their own Ocean Rover samples and the anecdotes from those who struggled to get in touch with support are enough to sway me. As a small business, it's in their best interest to enhance their customer service in order to build trust. I saw the Ginault caliber on CaliberCorner, and that was a Chinese caliber if I've ever seen one.

[@peacelove4994]

I heard their service is very solid from customers with great experience.

[@jonirwin7316]

@@peacelove4994 it is! Great service from Ginault.

[@daleyfamily2179]

@@jonirwin7316 The owner admitted to getting his start of making and selling fake Rolex's. So there's that.

[@maitrehg]

Same goofy text on the dial. Same unsign clasp. Same Rolex ripoff.

[@ats-3693]

Yeah its a nice looking watch because it looks like a sub, but all the unnecessary text on the dial kind of ruins it.

[@thegorn]

@@ats-3693 One less line would be ideal. 4 is a bit over the top although with youtube videos, dials get blown up in your face and details are exaggerated, but when you have them on your wrist, the 4 lines of text are far less in your face. It doesn't bother me actually when I'm wearing my Ginault.

[@pauljackson6593]

It’s a Chinese bracelet sourced by Ginault. John at Ginault told me that himself when I had one.

[@ats-3693]

@@thegorn Yeah it's true, close up video shots distort the true appearance of a watch, you can't fully tell how a watch looks or how it will look on your wrist until you actually have it in your hands.

[@dinhtran-ld4hz]

I mean it’s not cheap. Just save money get a sub. Get an original design at 1k which you would have so many options

[@gavinwhite9743]

Looks great, but it’s just a clone/homage. Quite an expensive homage. You are gonna feel great when someone walks up and says nice Rolex..no wait…Ginault design? Think I’ve seen that on Amazon. How much did you pay for that clomage? They saw you coming. 80 dollars on Amazon. Ginault is different from Pagini? Oh I see…this is a high quality fake. Wouldn't it be better to either buy the real thing? Or the pagini?

[@thegorn]

Rolex subs are all homages themselves of earlier subs, and I prefer Ginault's take on it. The Ginault is in a totally different league to Pagani. The "real thing" to this Ginault doesn't exist, but you don't seem like you are clued in enough to understand the subtleties of design differences.

[@gavinwhite9743]

@@thegorn Rolex homages of themselves? Clearly you don’t understand design evolution. Furthermore, is you like vintage Rolex vibes, there are literally thousands of them out there. 14060m gives vintage vibes with modern movement. This watch is Rolex designed, Chinese sourced parts assembled in US with a huge price tag for an excellent quality pagini. And you can find plenty of brands doing this Rolex homage, this literally brings nothing new to the party. I look at Christopher Ward by comparison. It’s own designs. Its own brand. This? Posh Pagini.

[@pauljackson6593]

I had that all the time that’s why I sold.

[@peacelove4994]

I have the Zenith Chrono, and some dude confused it for a Daytona. So even if you buy swiss name brands, situation like that still happens. Gavin sounds very insecure lol and cares a lot about what other people who dont really know watches think 😅 brainwashed hard by brands, and need brand names to support your identity.

[@pauljackson6593]

@@gavinwhite9743 I completely agree with you Gavin … just save and buy the real thing.

[@johncoyle8191]

Nice looking watch. But that is down to the fact it's a submariner rip off

[@MegaRich7]

Imagine how good this would look if you got rid of that ugly Cyclops.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

It can be ordered without it.

[@peterlandbo2726]

Ditch legend and buy an insanely expensive COPY?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.......

[@metro2171]

This watch is the perfect Rolex Homage! It has no identity. Total ripoff,

[@TheVince1995]

Too much writing lol

[@iron883cd]

AT THE END is a fake rolex, homage watches are under 300 dollars, but 1,800 dollars for a FAKE ROLEX YOU CRAZY

[@johnphotos8910]

Had one, 2 bezels later without even wearing it service was awful. Expensive fake Rolex. I’ll keep my submariner thanks.

[@BrokeWatchFanatic]

It’s definitely not for everyone.

[@hazlitt1]

Are you saying two bezels dropped off the watch without you even wearing it. Sure.😂😂😂

[@johnphotos8910]

Now he’s making expensive fake Omega 2254’s.

[@robedmunds7163]

Rolex is a copy of earlier designs, so would not buy one of those overpriced chav Rolexs😂

[@daleyfamily2179]

Ah yes, because nothing says originality like avoiding a Rolex and opting for something truly unique-like that third-rate knockoff of a knockoff you’ve got your eye on.

[@brunogravena9742]

I hate homage watch, just show me that people don’t have imagination to create their own design, this watch is made just to get people to buy spending a fraction of the real one

[@kobe5rings]

Jon went from making fakes to scamming. 1.7k for a watch that doesnt even have a signed clasp 🤣 didnt buy one at 1k now he wants 1.7k 🤡

[@hazlitt1]

I don’t think a signature is that important. Well, not to people who are not shallow.

[@Tyler-qw8kn]

Yet the watch is of better quality than huge name brands