Urza Oko vs 12 Post | Quarterfinals 3 - Quest for the Best Modern Deck Ever

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[@CardmarketMagic]

@@arsteel2388 I fixed it 👍 although it's a little less aesthetic now 😅

[@sebastianjasinski3538]

@@CardmarketMagic still doesnt work :c

[@QuixoticCowboy]

the 12post deck is one of the most disgusting things i have seen in MTG and i totally love it

[@JohnFromAccounting]

You can play it at full power in legacy and it's even more disgusting because you get Crop Rotation, Once Upon a Time and Elvish Spirit Guide. The utility lands Maze of Ith and Glacial Chasm are very good as well.

[@eatachodeutube]

Channel Fireball had a legacy video just recently about that very deck!

[@Graatand]

@@JohnFromAccountingWasteland was the hero all along

[@bgmephisto]

@@Graatandthey all run 4 copies of pithing needle main deck to shut that plan down.

[@Uwu____f]

@@bgmephistocloud post still is only a tier 2 deck though, just shows how much stronger legacy is

[@mrblaktastik1865]

Not at all how I expected this to play out. Seeing 12 Post for the first time played was a treat. The worst thing about this series is waiting a whole week to see the next game.

[@kylecote7261]

Thespians stage is also a post. 🫡

[@kylegonewild]

@@kylecote7261 If only it had been out before they got banned.

[@kylecote7261]

@@kylegonewild yeah, that tracks. 😅

[@egoalter1276]

16 post here we go.

[@denissinner4625]

The funny thing is, at the very first modern pro tour, everyone knew this was the deck to beat and prepared for it. There was only one BreachPost that made top8. But Wizards banned it anyway because it was pretty clear to anyone this deck is busted. Especially it made any form of control totally unplayable, the whole meta was combo decks and some aggro.

[@leonhumbug149]

Andrea's topdecking was hilarious. What a fun match to watch

[@gamptrak]

That 12-post deck is crazy! I thought forsure Oko/Urza would make it through. But casting the Emrakul makes 12-post one of my favourite decks now!

[@JohnFromAccounting]

It can cost as little as $700 to play the deck in legacy and it's even more powerful.

[@malte54]

@@JohnFromAccounting But most legacy decks are more powerful, which makes 12 post a tier2 deck.

[@Uwu____f]

@@malte54wasteland helps to hold it back a lot

[@manarager3413]

When 12 post is functionally just playing a legacy deck as is? I trust 12 post more than I trust in Urza Oko, to be honest o.o

[@JohnFromAccounting]

@@malte54 In terms of power level, 12 Post is definitely up there with the very best. Emrakul is genuinely unbeatable. The only issue with the deck is consistency, which is why it's not played more. Other combos like Breakfast and Doomsday are easier and faster, but they can fold to enough interaction. 12 Post will always win games that go long.

[@soterisshakides7981]

To all of you in Cardmarket. Please keep this going. Your energy and enthusiasm makes for a wonderful content and I feel that its MtG as it should be. Thank you!

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoy our content :) we'll do our best so that our future work does not disappoint

[@malcom91]

12-post was so underrated in the poll. Many mtg players never experienced it since it was more than a decade ago. "Fast mana / Big mana is ALWAYS broken"

[@herzerj.5045]

Yes it is thron but with more consistancy :D

[@lesternomo6578]

for real i was surprised

[@SymmetricalDocking]

I snap-voted for 12 post as soon as I saw it

[@brningpyre]

Carl has really been playing well this tournament. His decisions, especially at critical moments, have all been great.

[@Flair3777]

I noticed he's playing well also. I have generally thought he is outmatched dueling all these pros, but he's proving himself very formidable.

[@scottsutton7]

Carl 100% is using this channel as training to go win a PT 🤣

[@LordAlucard55]

Yea he grabbed eye of ugin to play around damping and I was just like, yasss queen

[@misslehead33]

He is consistantly playing with some of the best players in the world, year round, not just for cram testing.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

I trust in the 12 Post. Broken mana is always extremely powerful, no matter how slow the format.

[@pretends2know]

Cloudpost preys on slow formats. To beat it, you need either a lot of land destruction or kill them faster than they can stabilize.

[@bernardoquege4097]

as someone who never saw 12 post in action until now, this was awesome! love this channel and this series

[@Chasmolinko]

This channel is putting out premium content. Love it

[@scottsutton7]

Preach!! After years of not playing due to lack of enthusiasm for the game, this channel alone has got me back into MTG

[@POPHISTORIAN]

I haven't played Magic in years. I just live vicariously through you guys. Andrea unlocked a core memory talking about durdling haha

[@SalaryMan..]

easily the best magic content being put out. Wonderful work everyone.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :)

[@SalaryMan..]

@@CardmarketMagic Don't thank me, I'm just telling the truth! Thank you for making great content so frequently!

[@JohnFromAccounting]

This matchup in particular feels skewed towards 12 Post because Urza-Oko has trouble putting on early pressure.

[@Speeno-rq7el]

Hands down my favorite KZbin channel, and my favorite series

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoy the series :)

[@KM708]

I wonder how broken a 12-post deck would do if it had access to modern cards. Need to have a best modern deck ever, keeping the same archetypes but no banlist and no year restriction. Great content as always 🔥

[@Ornithopter470]

Not terribly broken, the deck is too slow these days.

[@giornogiovanna5038]

Love this series

[@jeromedarnell6270]

Again, the editing here is amazing and I want to thank you for putting in that bit of effort to make the games infinitely more accessible.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for your kind words :) this series is my baby so I put a lot more effort into these. I hope you enjoy the upcoming matches as well!

[@ja17979]

7:46 attack should be a lot more damage because lattice makes everything artifact which in turn buffs the token.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Yes we missed that 😅 but it doesn't really matter since we were just playing for giggles at that point. As Andrea said, it's a lock

[@bricelory9534]

Watching LSV recently play Post in Legacy proved to me hiw crazy 12-Post is. What a brutal series! Great games in a great series!

[@Mattball82]

I just found this channel in the last week and I have to say, you guys are the most pleasant and wonderful play group I’ve ever watched play! The dynamic, the pure passion for Magic and just enjoying the game. The excitement even when an opponent is doing something cool to win. I will always be fan!

[@GoDzJtFr]

I figured 12 post was gonna win, but honestly this match up also highlighted just how powerful and oppressive Urza Oko also was. Karn being able to grab sideboard cards like dampening sphere game 1 was insane

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

Awesome seeing the oldest decks advancing

[@GoldenKairu]

Favorite Megu moment lmaoo 19:49

[@ThankYouForTheVideos]

Always good to see Mengu! And what a showdown this one was, I was surprised how explosive 12 post is!!

[@ConManAU]

What an amazing match-up! Two explosive decks, filled to the brim with banned cards, and both sides had their fair share of "heart of the cards" moments when they drew just the thing that would keep them in the game. Absolutely phenomenal content and I cannot wait to see what happens in the finals.

[@eth1z]

The editing in these are so crazy good. It makes it such an enjoyable watching experience to see whats happening and i hope official mtg channels use these videos as a standard for future videos.

[@byrontheusurper6505]

You know a card is broken when it's in TWO of the 8 strongest decks of an entire format!

[@paulonavarro7095]

This is my favourite series of my favourite channel on KZbin!! Well played looking forward to the next one

[@B-Ran_the_Man]

Go 12 post!! I play Legacy 12 Post and it's great to see the deck sleeved-up for Modern for one more go

[@tertmemelur1880]

at 16:30 I 100% believed "Primeval Titan at home" was Steve because like, it gets 1 land instead of 2 so it's kinda like a worse Prime 🥲

[@masterchaosforge]

Called it. 12 Post just plays magic on a different scale. At the end of the day, the Urza Oko deck was a fair deck, that didn't really "break" the game. Cloudpost fundamentally breaks the usual 1 mana per land rule, and you cast the most powerful creatures in all of magic, held together with GSZ and Eye of Ugin.

[@valterus1449]

That last game was suprisingly very exciting and fun to watch until the end! Good job CM Team and Andrea :3

[@spacesquid4298]

Honestly, Oko put up a lot better of a fight than I expected. Andrea really did play his heart out

[@blueplayer6197]

Andrea is just proving that the pilot of the deck matters, I think Carl improved immensely since the early days of the channel, he is a very very good player now but Andrea is just a beast

[@CardmarketMagic]

Andrea is indeed a beast :)

[@darksteel913]

I mean, he also gets incredibly lucky at multiple points as well. You put that kind of luck and skill together and the decks he plays are going to punch above their weight.@@blueplayer6197

[@DrewskiTheLegend]

Yeah I had a feeling that the Oko voters either don’t know Legacy or don’t remember the beginning of Modern and the work required to keep those decks under control. It’s like Tron but better, yet it’s true successor is Titan Bloom, and the fact that Amulet Titan is the 3rd gen iteration of that deck/combo and it’s still a high performing deck in modern is crazy.

[@muditjohar5323]

Love this series, keep it up. Also there is a v good reason cloudposts are banned. Exponential mana is broken. Especially when even that exponential mana is increased with amulet of vigor

[@bricelory9534]

And don't forget, it can also be exponential life gain when needed...which I think makes it even crazier than you'd think.

[@Alejandrodemontana]

This game felt like it could have gone either way until the end, great show you guys

[@robnotwicz7002]

A legitimately fantastic match, that last series of top decks and subtle interactions was beautiful

[@Davidbruun]

This series just delivers - fantastic setup and players ❤

[@KKDT]

Great game (I love this series) and as always, amazing production quality!

[@DeDeDarth]

12-post is so awesome. And we didn't even see how it beats aggressive decks, "Play glimmerpost as my land. Outgain your last two burn spells" Really hoping to see it in the final, though both Hogaak and Rakdos Scam seems like difficult match-ups

[@josefinacabrera589]

I love watching all these decks in action! Fantastic content guys

[@slay-thoven1357]

God it feels good to be right. Called it on the poll. Exciting to see all the "first time seeing 12post" comments - truly an archival series as much as it is a showcase of great gameplay!

[@kaalesrex2933]

Nice to see 12 Post still is a good deck ^^ great content

[@JohnFromAccounting]

The legacy list is pretty similar.

[@thierrysterckeman8227]

Love this series, especially when they have guest pros piloting the decks

[@mittertag1864]

What a match! Might be my favourite of all the Best of Matches we've got so far. Friendly, but still competitive Match, 12 Post in action (what in the world is that deck?^^) And Andrea playing his heart out, so much so, that he got his heart on his cards (19:49 how is that not the thumbnail?^^) Also I really feel like Carl has steadily improved as a Magic Player, very good work :-)

[@Netro1992]

Man, I had forgotten how fun watching someone play 12 post is.

[@faronyoung9609]

Called it in the poll. People don't remember how crazy 12 post was.

[@B-Ran_the_Man]

It was legal for, i think, one tournament at the beginning of modern before it got banned, so unless you know of the Legacy version, this deck is a surprise to most

[@alexnunes6389]

Another video, another time I feel obligated to say you guys make my favourite mtg content on KZbin

[@CardmarketMagic]

Hopefully, another time we are thanking you for it :)

[@victoraguirre7486]

Holy bananas that 12 post surely brought disturbing memories, and I am all for it

[@Razomka]

Excellent content! Really love it. Can't wait for the next!

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I didn't know mycosynth lattice was banned but it makes sense that card's nuts

[@lawtonadams4235]

Love the unintentional foreshadowing to the finals

[@RayearthIX]

I was so sure that Oko/Urza would win because both of those cards are batshit crazy, but this just proves that not even the High Lord Artificer himself, when joined by the ban-hammer, can actually beat hard cast Emrakul. Great games.

[@jameswilson4328]

I'm honestly shook, im surprised by the result. I haven't been playing modern but since after the banning of the locus lands, so its neat to see them on display here

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I rlly need to get that urza, he's so cool!

[@cerocero2817]

Such clutch draws on game 3 with that thoughtseize and scapeshift.

[@unnamed800]

Great content as always guys!

[@devinanni8117]

Get there 12 post. I believe in you

[@waves-]

What a game! I can't believe I had never seen 12-post before!

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

Lets gooooo more best modern decks series

[@brandonwright5277]

I would love these as a playlist! I want to watch then all in order.

[@CardmarketMagic]

This is the current playlist for the modern one (still 4 videos to be added): kzbin.info/aero/PLLHPZ4KRrrKsmv-FzpvcnhfREyi-7OktD&si=tJvjxQ0_v44IR4Po And here is the Playlist for when we did it for standard: kzbin.info/aero/PLLHPZ4KRrrKu9daHYTjBcPLiLvTnrTK6O&si=mm6ESBF7ZDiuZhD-

[@DaichiAudios]

I'm glad I'm new that i didn't experience 12 Post irl. That is one of the most terrifying thing to see on the other side of the table. "I'll ramp, then ramp, then ramp, emrakul. resolve?"

[@CardmarketMagic]

Emrakul always resolves 😎 it can't be countered. Which is even scarier 😅

[@Ornithopter470]

To be fair, cloudpost was banned before emrakul was printed. Edit: they existed for less than a year together in modern. Weird that the first modern pro tour was in 2011.

[@techpriest8965]

I am so glad I voted for 12post. I was certain it can plop down an Emrakul before Oko does it's thing. Such a ruthless deck and an epitome of old Modern.

[@beforememory]

Great video, can't wait for the next episode.

[@pathtracker4944]

CALLLED IT ! EXPONENTIAL MANA WINS AGAIN !!!

[@opensocietyenjoyer]

it's quadratic mana, actually

[@MrWader76]

Best series on KZbin!

[@AbesOnAPlaneFilms]

Ah, the Mengu episodes are the best! 🎉

[@Rodinj10]

You guys should totally do this with regular commander decks, I need 7 hour long videos of you guys in my life 😂

[@CardmarketMagic]

Hahahahaha I'm sorry but I am not canceling my plans for an entire month to edit that video 🤣

[@Rodinj10]

@@CardmarketMagic hahah it was worth a shot😂

[@ari_cool]

best series you made keep up the good work!

[@tietscho]

19:48 gotta love Andreas adhd vibes. That’s why I’m watching his streams too

[@diegomerino9571]

11:30 Little thing that i hoped to see a coment on but didnt. Maybe im wrong but as far as im concerned dryad arbor retains the land type. Its turned into an elk but it remains a creature land: creature land - elk, so you can pop it with scapeshift

[@Martin-qb2mw]

This series is a banger.

[@tiresome20]

This is my favorite series of all time

[@choingler]

Great editing!

[@Think_Deep]

I remember back when the 12 Post name first came up, back when the deck only ran 4 Cloudposts (and 8 spells to find them).

[@draconianmethods704]

I love how they included in the HUD that he revealed his rebuke lol

[@andrewneben7949]

started magic when throne of eldraine dropped and my lord was that disgusting/amazing. Carl was having the time of his life! Mengu thanks for being the good sport that you are

[@RoboJay-jq3cu]

Everyone was doubting 12post in the poll yesterday and I knew it was going to take it. Its one of my favorite decks and is basically a prototype prime-time. Anyways, more Locus support when WotC?

[@sortfaar3]

i played the locus lands in my edh orvar deck. you can get some crazy value from just a few sorcery casts

[@skullrocker8022]

This was an awesome video! Also, please have more jazz/funk as background music, it fits so well

[@gilber78]

Next week. HOGAAK. Im hyped. It’s my favorite deck in any format of any time. Broken as all heck but that makes it funnier (not to play against but still)

[@ozzysmith2571]

What's Hogaak playing against?

[@JohnFromAccounting]

@@ozzysmith2571 Hogaak vs Scam. Hogaak should be favoured to win. It's definitely the favourite for taking down the whole tournament. How can any deck deal with an 8/8 on turn 2?

[@gilber78]

@@JohnFromAccounting or more accurately deal with getting milled out turn 3? Honestly the only decks imo that even have the remotest shot of taking down hogaak are ones that have 4 chalice of the void since the only real way to shut the deck down permanently are deal with the one-drops it uses to support the gameplan

[@8628416]

Loved it! great content.

[@diabeticmonkey]

I always forget how nutty twelve post is. I was just getting into magic around the time it was banned in modern

[@DerringerHK]

One of the craziest paper Moderm matches ive ever seen lol. Feels like I'm watching a Legacy matchup, and even there not all the cards are legal!

[@GamerayVideos]

HYPE!

[@estelaguarda5423]

12 post is basically tron but twice as good, maybe more. It was one of my first decks in pauper and it's one of those decks you need to play to see how broken it is. Glimmerpost actually does so much, that 1 turn where you gain 3-5 life is equal to an extra turn to do more broken stuff.

[@janmelantu7490]

Wow. Half of 12-post is a commander deck. Steve (Sakura-Tribe Elder), Terastodon, Explore, etc. 2011 modern is wild.

[@nedcurfman3486]

22:24 did you use the Skyrim bear growl for Emrakul?

[@samuelehrhardt3732]

great content as always!

[@XxAmyers93xX]

both decks look like a lot of fun to play

[@nerdtopiade]

can u imagien how powerfull the locus lands where in pauper ? Love to see 12 Post in Action again . I am old enough that i saw it play :)

[@The-Ertai]

Congratulations Carl! Hard fought victory 🎉

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you 🥳

[@ursulcx299]

I never saw 12 post in action before. Intellectually I knew it was broken, I knew how and why. It didnt disapoint. I was kinda rooting for that dumb "I have lands that tap for a bajillion and cast spagethi noodle monster" deck to win. Maybe because I dont like Urza or Oko. Idk. Fun time, good content. Thanks guys.

[@Darium856]

You can def tell the community is young and still wounded from Oko bc the voting was a hate-fest on the Urzo Oko deck, myself included. But wow what a cool fricken deck 12 post is. You could just exist and make Eldrazi and Titans rain from the skies. Gg!

[@disafear3674]

That was exciting!

[@JoeKell365]

7:41 the Construct was a 14/14, so that swing was lethal. remember, Lattice makes every permanent an artifact, including your lands and Planeswalkers, so the Construct counts those

[@CardmarketMagic]

That is correct! But the game was over anyway, we were just playing for giggles at that point 😅 as Andrea said, it's a lock

[@SRADracer]

@7:40. The match was already over, because the token was way bigger than counted. Everything Incl all lands were also artifacts because of Mycosynth Lattice

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Dat Primeval Titan stock bear roar effect sound edit that's also used by WoW and Warcraft 3 doe. lol

[@GotchaPlaysGer]

Greeeeeeat stuff dudes

[@yeepyorp]

The Construct at 7:43 is actually a 14/14 because all permanents are artifacts and he has 14 permanents