US Navy just presented its future destroyer. Here's a detailed look at it.

[@Cris-xy2gi]

That's good too see - they're not asking for a ship crammed full of unproven, advanced tech. Just proven, reliable stuff with the POTENTIAL to upgrade to new stuff - once it's ready.

[@rogersmith7396]

So sorta like a Ford Pinto? Plenty of room for upgrades.

[@catonpillow]

Too good to be true actually. By the time these ships are approved they will already be outdated.

[@SamtheIrishexan]

They are preparing for next gen warfare so sturdy ship characteristics with an almost modular approach to armament and recon ability. We will probably have radar drones everywhere on the battlefield so its not necessarily the most important thing imo

[@arbiter204]

@@catonpillow this is a average design wdym?

[@mariotabusao4501]

O m

[@brianfoley4328]

Now that's a well reasoned video...no outlandish claims or promises...lots of speculation that is based on sound principles...good videos that match the discussion....Well done Binkov, well done indeed.

[@piepile6328]

He sure doesn’t speculative about Chinese military technology. I’m fact he gives it the benefit of the doubt!

[@dojokonojo]

The last time I was this early, the US Navy was still known as the Continental Navy!

[@123bambam4]

I see we have a Benedict Arnold fan. 🦶

[@manganvbg90]

Last time i was this late, pearl harbor attack happened

[@thegooddoctor2009]

Looks a lot like how the Spruance class was made a bit bigger to become the Ticonderoga class. And somehow looks likes a Chinese Type 55.

[@catonpillow]

Pretty much. I would've said that it's just a cheap copy of the Type 055. But it's not. Since it will be an *expensive* copy. Knowing that the military industrial complex never meets its deadlines and always go grossly over budget.

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

People saying it looks like the 055 are blind. It literally has the Zumwalts superstructure.

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

@@kanding3369 It's overpriced sure, but 1v1 it could kill any other ship on the water. Especially after next years refit with hypersonic ship to ship missiles

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

@@kanding3369 lol

[@ultralaggerREV1]

Finally. A good destroyer that isn’t as extremely expensive as Zumwalt

[@randomthot125]

It's still on the drawing board my guy. Zumwalt looked much better on paper and was promised to be 10 times cheaper, look what happened.

[@jay-1800]

@Ran Brainhole I agree with that. People see the US massive military budget and automatically assume their military might reflects that. But the US spends a lot of that budget maintaining bases that aren’t really needed anymore. Every single year the Pentagon fails audits done by the IRS because massive amounts of money (I’m talking billions) ends up unaccounted for. The US isn’t as innovative overall since a while ago. There’s plenty of key areas where Russia and China have a sizable lead because the US isn’t exactly investing in the most prudent technology. Still no answer to hypersonic missiles. Plus comparatively speaking to the Russian navy US ships are very lightly armed. What’s the point in investing in sophisticated naval ships and technology if your still leaving your ships and bases wide open to missiles which cost a fraction to make/maintain

[@BKC01595]

@Ran Brainhole no doubt! I'm still at the my first AF base and the construction on part of the flight line has been in the works for the last 5 years I've been here. I thought they finished only for them to be like "lol we did it wrong give us more money to redo it" #get new contracts

[@trueKENTUCKY]

Capitalism at work

[@MohitKumar-jf8lz]

@@trueKENTUCKY atleast it works.

[@vastkingsley7309]

DDGX looks like PLAN type 055 destroyer

[@HeavenlyMandate]

that thing looked like a PLA destroyer for some reason

[@RobTzu]

Solving same problems with same science leads to similiar solutions.

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@RobTzu say that to J-20 and J-35

[@VoidSpace9]

@@thomaszhang3101 America copied from nazi Germany lol

[@vkqtran4721]

@@VoidSpace9 And how is that relevant?

[@wolfgangjr74]

@@VoidSpace9 America paid and licensed technology from Germany. Not the usual chinese crap of just down right stealing tech.

[@coreytaylor447]

the fact that we are getting actual laser systems on ships now is so fucking cool I cant handle it

[@richardpatton2502]

Regardless of the design, the US Navy must allow for the maintenance and care of the ship to be performed by its own sailors and crew. And not overly rely on outside independent contractors like they do with the Zumwalt and LCS. All the best to everyone

[@JYF921]

Like stealth fighter, it seems 055 type design is a popular choice that multiple designs are converging upon

[@jxdirsdt1045]

Wtf u talking bout ? So fucking misinformed🤣🤣🤣

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Finally someone who understand convergent design instead just scream “(X) iS cOpYiNg (Y)”

[@jukebox_heroperson3994]

Hopefully the US Navy really does take in and use all of the lessons it learned from Zumwalt and the LCSs. If they do, these might just be pretty good ships.

[@scud553]

Hopefully we see a more offensive mindset with these destroyers. Having excellent defensive capability is necessary, but these ships deserve more than a couple aging harpoon (if they get any at all)

[@victoroduarte]

the US Navy is replacing the Harpoons with the AGM-158 LRASM for a while, they can be used in the MK41 vertical launch cells

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

I beleive thats why they referance hypersonic missiles

[@brendanl9937]

They also have SM-6s, which can be used as well as a small warhead supersonic anti-ship missile

[@Ry_TSG]

@@brendanl9937 They’re not nearly as good as a proper anti ship missile though

[@brendanl9937]

@@Ry_TSG Yes becsuse it's not their purpose to be one. They are an anti aircraft missile, but were optimized to be able to be used and launched as an anti-ship missile.

[@Temstar04]

Look I think we can make a deal here. If we can name PLAN's 5th gen carrier fighter J-35 to have a go at F-35, then it only makes sense that USN is allowed to call this class DDG055. I think we can all agree that's fair.

[@ravenof1985]

looks like a Zumwalt and a Burke were put in a dark room together.

[@williammcconville4967]

Probably what they did, obviously not literal prob crossed the tech

[@KrisWustrow]

Me thinks this was a sexual reference. LOL

[@williammcconville4967]

@@KrisWustrow it looked like a joke to me, your view points to you being perverted

[@KrisWustrow]

@@williammcconville4967 yes he wrote a joke... in a dark room together... get it?

[@williammcconville4967]

@@KrisWustrow developing photos?

[@jacklee7960]

looks exactly like 055a to me

[@gato2]

Lol literally said they design is not final

[@lizadonrex]

You sound like 055 is a world first unique design that everybody even US copy it🤦

[@joshualai2827]

@Eldritch Construct like a burke

[@robertgittings8662]

@Eldritch Construct *don't be embarrassed there were many more: the iPhone copied Huawei's camera setup before asking the congress to ban it; KZbin copied Tiktok's short video setup before asking the president to ban (unsuccessfully); ...*

[@Nxtl68]

About time the Navy got over it's Super hightech megaship phase.

[@MRsolidcolor]

china had to kick it in the dick

[@Vincent98987]

They should better build the huge alien space craft from the movie "Battleship"

[@jwzjwz2003cn]

This is like a 055 Burke hybrid

[@michealrowe8561]

The design is somewhat similar to the type 055 destroyers.

[@catonpillow]

My thoughts exactly. I would've said that it's just a cheap copy of Type 055 but it's not. Since it will be an *expensive* copy. Knowing that the military industrial complex never meets its deadlines and always go grossly over budget.

[@infoworld7706]

it's weird the channel didn't mention a thing about it but would say J20 is a copy of F22 or F35. I guess they know the secret codes of making popular videos.

[@sparky4405]

@@infoworld7706 whats the resemblance?

[@kaz9242]

@Austin Carr how is type 55 similar to Burke?

[@kaz9242]

@Austin Carr lol by that logic all frigates and destroyers are copy of each other as their basic structure is more similar than different

[@nvlarcht]

As a naval architect, it seems reasonable and pretty good honestly.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

Excellent analysis! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@nikostombris5505]

A video on the Constellation class frigate would be interesting .

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

The fact that this uses technology were already beginning to field us a good sign, it means that when the ship sets sail it won’t be full of the newest unproven tech like the Zumwalt or LCS, this will massively save costs allowing for future upgrades or more ships to be built.

[@kylestoddard2881]

Excellent video! Well composed.

[@tommasofrisone2643]

That Z painted in the zumwalt did not age well

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

Why?

[@thomasgttd9063]

the price per ship is so much higher than what building ship cost to china.. I don't see how USA could keep a stronger navy than China on the long term

[@christaylor6654]

Chinas.labor cost is rapidly increasing while their economy is slowed way down. New corona restrictions will only hurt them even more. The US doesn’t have to keep up with them ship for ship that’s impossible, only need to keep tactics and supply lines and china can’t threaten anyone without major alliances being changed

[@adis.g6569]

Murica doesnt even need to compete. They are crumbling from within

[@briant5685]

@@christaylor6654 you'll soon hear scandals surrounding this new project,at the end of it all there will be like 4 ships constructed before the entire project gets abandoned due to coast meanwhile chinese will be working on their 30th destroyer

[@617-h8f]

Don't worry.The government can cut the budget for infrastructure，such as schools and subway system,which seems not important to USA now.And more important point，allies will pay the bill for America.

[@JockeyStrappers]

Electric motor propulsion should be quiter too, they can account for the power plant vibration seperately while a smooth running electric prop will still propell.

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

I reackon in a few years thorium reactors will be so small that they will replace all fossil fuel motors.

[@edgein3299]

The sailors wouldn’t know what to do with all this technology, but as long as they are up to speed on their CRT training, that’s all that matters.

[@MrFlatage]

Sure as if US sailors lack the intelligence to know how to switch a radar on? Even if some commercial container ship rammed into a USN ship and killed those US sailors? That is just incident. Not like it would happen again just a month later you know ... And if US sailors lose GPS signal? They will know things like Celestial Navigation and Sextants to navigate without any technology. What do you think would happen? US sailors lost in Irans waters and on their knees crying in front of a camera? In front of the goatherding navy? Luckily the USN has found a way to have superior trained sailors if they install ... Xboxcontrollers.

[@mokutan8334]

China: Let's see... some new US destroyer design for reference, good for cop..... WAIT AM I COPYING MYSELF?

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

10:19 he has them side by side you tell me there is anything other than marginal similarities

[@mokutan8334]

@@anguswaterhouse9255 sure, just like f35 and j35

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

@@mokutan8334 The thing is fighters can be copied without looking the same the j-20 is a copycat of f-22 and f-35 trying to compete with f-22 and being made with stolen f-35 secrets and when i say marginal similaritys i mean potential wieght being with 2,000 tons of each other and the us destroyers having a bridge that looks similar but flipped, if you look at the designs the us destroyer is leaner longers and has that section in the middle meant for more advanced systems yet to be developed it also uses that new engine sytem which china does not yet have which he mentions later on in the video but most importantly. This is a concept whicle the j-35 is an actual plane they have built this thing WILL change before it is built but the j-35 is locked in as a clone

[@rx302]

@@anguswaterhouse9255 it won't become a copy because it won't be built. Otherwise, that ship will looks like 055 and ally-berkes give birth to it

[@45641560456405640563]

@@anguswaterhouse9255 100%. No idea what people are thinking...

[@thryce82]

these numbers arent crazy. I was on a Ticonderga it was built for ~1.3 billion by 1990 so in inflated 2022 dollars say about 2/6-2.7 billion. Esp since they are making a new class and bigger ships 2.6 2.9billion would be kinda reasonable.

[@royhuang9715]

Zumwalt was supposedly to be under 2.5B per hull, by the time it was built the price went up to 4.3B. 2.6 sounds reasonable on paper but the actual cost will be around 5B per ship.

[@catonpillow]

@@royhuang9715 Spot on.

[@raywhitehead730]

The US has signed the contract to buy 20 FREMM class Frigates construction has started on the first one. It displaces about 8,000 tones. It is a proven design and they operate with the Italian and French navy, and are doing well. The US Navy is to make a few changes. It is well armed

[@jeffkerr7418]

Hopefully at bath iron works. Maine usa.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

@@jeffkerr7418 Fincantieri Marinette Marine on the Great Lakes.

[@gregoryvangaya8971]

Why large surface ships at all?? They are costly sitting ducks! Name me a mission set that something better, faster, stealthier and deadlier can't do for 1/5th the cost?

[@johnshepherd9676]

The propulsion system is called turbo-electric drive. The US Navy introduced this form of propulsion in 1918 on the New Mexico class battleships.

[@curiousfigment]

1:51 NICE BOAT

[@Gentleman...Driver]

As a sailor I would do anything to serve on that ship. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@br2266]

Could you imagine if they just built 1,000 oldschool cannon ball ships instead.

[@catonpillow]

Even better, if they just build schools and invests into education instead of spending billions on ships that will never be used. A wild idea, I know.

[@cripple9860]

bring back wooden sailing ships lol

[@christopherramos5690]

If there's one thing for sure. is that this ships will not be the price they're stating now.

[@ATBatmanMALS31]

The decades if research (failed US Navy projects) was worthwhile, if you look at it in terms of information. We learned a lot about the limits of technology.

[@akil412]

First time when i saw that ship I thought it was a type 055 lol

[@fofoqueiro5524]

It looks almost identical to Chinese type 055. OMG

[@EGvids1]

It’s disgraceful. DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

[@617-h8f]

i got it,i got it,the chinese traveled to the future and copyed the ship.it must be!Im so brilliant,nobody knows copy better than me.trust me.

[@ssaimun590]

hahah..

[@vkqtran4721]

Haha, that’s funny because the Chinese are copy-cats.

[@thespalek1]

Love the epilogue about it´s greatest enemy! :-D Soooo true!

[@vakten8323]

Kinda like how we spent a fortune on Seawolf, and ended up with the cheaper Virginia... Kinda seems like this is how the Navy rolls.

[@AugmentedGravity]

I lile how the Zumwalt was critisized for having an unstable hull but turned iut to be more stable than pretty much everything😂

[@orbiradio2465]

There are worries about stability, when the ship is damaged. So far no Zumwalt has been damaged.

[@AugmentedGravity]

@@orbiradio2465 it wasn’t just when damaged, it was generall sea state worthiness, which it completely disproved

[@Hortifox_the_gardener]

How it will turn out: they will spend a billion or two, won't reach their crazy requirements and just decide to upgrade the Burke yet again.

[@grahamfloyd3451]

Exactly. Lazer weapons that exist nowhere on this planet, yet the Navy is going to build a platform around them before they get invented... the emperor has no clothes.

[@MrFlatage]

@@grahamfloyd3451 Haha nice BS fantasy story. But no one sees 'lazer weapons' in the OP ofcourse. Awh the little emperor is making up stufff.

[@robbiejames1540]

@@grahamfloyd3451 @Oliver Kurzweg did you listen to what he was saying? It's a far less demanding design than the zumwalt, and isn't built around a laser weapon at all - the terminal defences are designed to use already existing systems that could then become lasers when/if they work.

[@princegroove]

Proud us Navy veteran here. Our Navy is definitely in need of an upgrade to counter the shenanigans of certain dictatorships in the world.

[@MrFlatage]

Proof of Service then ... Your Navy? Haha your a commie, lmao!!

[@warbuzzard7167]

What about OUR dictatorship?

[@MrFlatage]

@@warbuzzard7167 I love how you all hide behind your fake names like cowards, lmao!

[@cmdr1911]

This is when Zummwalt will finally bare fruit. A lot of lessons learned will be applied to a more tradition ship.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Lessons of 'don't be so bloody stupid' The British built IEP Destroyers and Carriers and barring issues with the WR21 GT in the Type 45, they Just Work. USA should come to Europe more for assistance, we have a good track record for high text weaponry made within budget.

[@MrFlatage]

Good job then. They turned it into a fruit growing facilitiy to feed starving US citizens who do not have food stamps or can stand in line at soup kitchens. Banana!

[@catonpillow]

@@MostlyPennyCat The U$ military industrial complex is not stupid. They're just greedy, that's all :)

[@paullakowski2509]

I would think a bunch of drones would be a must for ASW mission since modern SSGN SSN would become the main threat.

[@wotnot4646]

Comments summary: 1. Overtime over budget 2. Money wins war, spend more to win 3. Looks win wars, looks can kill after all, so long as it looks good I am happy 4. China better 5. It's a copy paste of another ship, that's not allowed

[@jxdirsdt1045]

5 star general comments are all over this place

[@LucidFL]

@@jxdirsdt1045 im not a 5 star general im a 6 star general. Get it right

[@TheCat48488]

Lol

[@michaelbateman6430]

It’s a testament to the Burke’s they will be decommissioning some while still building more. I was on the first IIA’s and it was painful for me because we had some one off parts for A-gang. It was still a very capable ship. I love this class!

[@SpockBorg5]

They should still go with a tumble home design, heard some positive things from the zumwalt trials. Could still make a stealthy ship. As matter of why not just salvage more from zumwalt program, that could minimize cost of a totally new development research

[@kxttd6870]

Glad to see this copycat of the Type 055 in the PPT. Great to see it is only in the PPT now.

[@minxbade]

No one is talking about the lack of skilled workers to build these new ships. You can order hundreds of ships but if there is no one to build it you won't get it.

[@arveduilastking546]

Maybe they build them in China. ;)

[@minxbade]

@@arveduilastking546 That made me laugh so you got the like. You aren't wrong about China. A quote from an article in the Defense News "Chinese shipyards crank out new ships at a breakneck pace, with the People’s Liberation Army Navy commissioning three new warships a day earlier this year - or “almost half as many as the US will induct in one year.”

[@royhuang9715]

@@minxbade forget about building new ships. US doesn’t even have enough worker and shipyard to keep their existing ship maintained properly. Look at the corrosion on some of new US vessels. And the backlog of subs waiting to be maintain in harbor.

[@minxbade]

@@royhuang9715 Yep, we are starting to look like the former soviet union after their collapse. mismanagement from the top down.

[@chenweichu166]

it really looks like the type 055....

[@elvinbertcorvera1884]

No. Its radar are fixed differently. The type 055 looks very similar with Arleigh Burke class destroyers. You might want to check that out

[@Fold-103]

This is quite literally standard ship layout. They copied the standard ship layout that everyone uses.

[@shaolindonnie]

IT sure does..

[@chenweichu166]

@@elvinbertcorvera1884 Yes, there must be many differences in the specific equipment, I'm just saying that they look exactly the same, especially the front half of the ship

[@monjurealahisaiyan7586]

India's 🇮🇳 future destroyer is more than 2x better than USA. Because we have some latest technology that USA and western countries haven't yet💪💪. Within 2035 India's 🇮🇳🇮🇳 navy will overtake USA and become the most powerful navy in the world

[@ycplum7062]

Being designed for future upgrades is significant. You get something right away and you can improve later on. Much better than shoving in unproven technology and risk having nothing in the end.

[@jakemillar649]

I think that this ship will actually have all or most planned units completed. The US Navy simply NEEDS these. With probably dozens of ships being taken out of service soon, The Navy needs these ships to stay competitive with potential enemies.

[@operator9858]

Thats what they said about the last ships they are already dumping...

[@catonpillow]

The military industrial complex is known for never meeting its deadlines and always going grossly overbudget. For them that's nothing but business you see. The new ships will end up being the same expensive garbage just like zumwalt.

[@rodfel2001]

Of course the US Navy needs these "stolen tech", but we must also shut the fuck up with those ranting about how superior we are to the Hans ...

[@ianstobie]

2:18 wow! Sideways launch of ship, possibly at Fincantieri yard in Wisconsin.

[@MrFlatage]

Just put them on wheels and drive them into the sea with your Xbox controller. Plenty of videos of very expensive brandnew ships launched sideways that topple over. Why the modern world of shipbuilding moved on decades ago. It's like rubbing sticks together to make fire, lmao!!

[@xsh4dowfallx]

Like any US Navy project to date it'll probably be past deadline, over budget, and probably scrapped by Congress to instead pay for "sensitivity training". But it is the most practical plan the Navy's come up with in the past 20 years. Oh, and it's not an 055 copy. It's just good hull design. They may have built it first, but it wasn't their idea either. It's gonna be the trend of all shipbuilding in the next couple decades.

[@Tyrant_8053]

Copium, hahahaha.

[@JK-uj8ur]

That blue ocean looks sooo nice 😍

[@doc0core]

US Navy is tops where it counts: Powerpoint.

[@redtob2119]

honestly these destroyers are basically cruisers at this point

[@Zachomara]

The Zumwalt was a cruiser they called a destroyer. However this is probably a smaller weapons platform since the US is migrating away from big singular ships due to the necessity of possibly sustaining through combat losses.

[@fatdoi003]

yeah and UK is building a 8000t frigate

[@Zachomara]

@@fatdoi003 I didn't say anything about the UK. I was referring to the US.

[@fatdoi003]

@@Zachomara i'm just referring to size vs name

[@tunaritoope2059]

They should all be called combat ships. WW2 era classification is not really fitting anymore.

[@edwardquin4464]

This is as insane as all the other arms races. A racket for Raytheon.

[@captjinxmarine9832]

I always enjoy your vids. Thanks.

[@Sect10n31]

New Flight III Arleigh Burke destroyers can replace the old Ticonderoga cruisers and 1st gen Burke destroyers as a stopgap until a new futuristic DDGX class can be built on time and at cost that is based on mature drone, hypersonic, and directed energy weapons technology while being able to generate all the extra needed juice.

[@michaeldy3157]

Finally common sense designs to replace cruisers and destroyers as well.. wothout breaking the budget like zumwalts.

[@warhead_beast7661]

Could you do a vid on the Type 26 Class of UK/Canada/Australia?

[@anti-socialmedia8195]

Yo Binkov, dude if I worked in the Pentagon I would use your videos as reference material. They are that good. Keep up the great work bro...

[@thetigerking2613]

>13,000 tons Just call it a cruiser at this point

[@orkhepaj]

it is a missile cruiser yup

[@sctm81]

Agreed. It's getting silly at this point.

[@hphp31416]

cruiser is ship operating on its own, destroyers were created to destroy torpedoboats and now they are build to destroy missiles that replaced torpedoboats

[@maolo76]

Looks like China's type 055

[@Gogoel-q8f]

China retroactively copied the US. Sneaky move😂

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Type 45 will now be armed with 72 short and long range SAMs. 128 is good, but could be _much_ better, pushing for 200.

[@avkk2314]

It depends on weight of the ship and missiles.

[@thomaszhang3101]

Ladies and gents, I present you the Kirov class, eh, destroyer.

[@Dazzxp]

Thing with the zumwalt is apprently the pain (same for jets) are prone to quick algie build up impacting it's stealth so they need almost constant maintenance.

[@MrFlatage]

The pain of being uneducated? Lacking the education fro spell and form a coherent sentences? Yes I feel your pain.

[@Imperial_Cosmonaut]

Jets build up agae?

[@MrFlatage]

@@Imperial_Cosmonaut Please explain 'agae'?

[@Dazzxp]

@@MrFlatageDo you spend your life on KZbin looking for comments with typos and grammatically incorrect sentences. Calling people uneducated because they have dyslexia? That's one thing that education can't fix is the superiority complex some people have.

[@markbrisec3972]

Damn it.. I wished that the next gen destroyers will look like Zumwalts.. Sad to see it goes the more conventional road.

[@Pub2k4]

I hate that the Zumwalt design didn’t really work out. That was an intimidating looking ship.

[@negativeindustrial]

What was the issue with it?

[@middleclassthrash]

@@negativeindustrial It was built to house railguns and the railguns didn't work out.

[@mrchocolatebean8878]

@@middleclassthrash not railguns. The Zumwalt does not have railguns nor was designed to have them. The major problem was because of the really expensive ammunition. And that's not the only problem.

[@MrFlatage]

@@mrchocolatebean8878 Specifically designed to host railguns in fact. Can we see proof and evidence to your claim? Else this is a major problem.

[@negativeindustrial]

Thanks, y’all. Much appreciated.

[@RobinTheBot]

At first I thought it was an exaggeration but no, that looks EXACTLY like the type 55. Wild. The only way I can tell them apart is the slightly smaller CWIS/rolling block battery on the front... This is of course just a render, not the final design. Maybe someone got lazy on the presentation : Edit: This is a fantastic proposal. The places it innovates are specifically high value, like the distributed gas turbines and potential for larger missiles. The larger hangar and potential for drones is great, even though the Navy continues to underestimate them and fail to produce enough of them. Best of all, no stealth delusions. Stealth arguably works well on planes in part because they are smaller, faster, and able to take better advantage of radar horizons. They take less time inside detection range to do their job and have more things that can look like nothing of concern. For a boat though, any radar return at all is basically garunteed to be a boat, and ships can mount more larger radars on them, with no terrain to hide behind. Not to mention it works fundamentally less well, especially with all the noise it makes and all its enemies already equipped with sonar and the like... I like this. It better not come out looking like that though or we'll have a lot of friendly fire lol.

[@frey8658]

I guess Chinese stole the design from future US engineer’s mind and build before they put the idea into blueprints

[@EGvids1]

That’s right. DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

[@gavrielmarcus831]

Love your videos, keep up the great work!!

[@ПавелСорокин-ы2ч]

It seems to me alone that the destroyer DDG (X) is similar to the Chinese destroyer type 055?

[@45641560456405640563]

They don't actually look alike for starters. So, no. But it seems people have seen such a comment and are now running around repeating it without looking with their own eyes...

[@rxsquared]

It’s just a funny meme since the tired and lazy argument that china’s J-20 is a copy, when in reality form follows function. Of course no one seriously following military news actually believes this is a copy.

[@shanerooney7288]

@@rxsquared And yet people who follow military news do think the large, twin engine, delta-and-canards wing J20 is a copy of the small, single engine, conventional wing F35. People are hopeless when claiming X is a copy of Y.

[@李梅烧烤泥轰豚]

Chinese plagiarism is called copying, and American plagiarism is called imitation. Can they be the same?There is no plagiarism in the American worldview, and the United States has homegrown German technology.

[@45641560456405640563]

@@李梅烧烤泥轰豚 Since the notion this is a copy is a lame troll your point is moot.

[@heliowolf6334]

I think this program is actually going to be successful, it leaves room for future technology, but doesn't rely on unproven concepts like the idea of ships being as stealth capable as aircraft. There is also a lot more motivation to get things done due to the current state of the world.

[@MrFlatage]

An aircraft that cannot be seen on radar? No such thing exists. And a flying boat could easily be as capable ofcourse.

[@theredbar-cross8515]

Is no one going to mention how much that DDGX model looks like the Type 055?

[@peterson7082]

It really doesn't.

[@SromolKhmer]

It's like copy and paste. 😂

[@peterson7082]

@@SromolKhmer The DDG(X) is not similar

[@SpeedSix222]

The very fact that the phased arrays are located above the bridge and not below it is on its own a huge difference

[@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084]

Excellent Analysis!!! Thank You!!!

[@redenginner]

Spending a shitload of money on the Zumwalt and not building them.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

Imagine

[@nathan4750]

it would take even more money to build and run them so the navy cancelled them

[@fee1776]

Navy is repeating the Spruance class strategy. During 1970 the USN had to replace their old Gearing class destroyers after Vietnam War and counter Soviet navy numbers after Afghanistan invasion. Many Spruances were launched with gun, ASROC, 2 LAMP ASW hel and Sea Sparrow air defense missiles. It had large super structure that was empty with plenty of room for additions in electronics and additional weapons. Later batches were upgrade of initial ship design. The improvements were retrofitted to the early ships. The Spruance procurement allow for cost efficient construction and launch of replacement destroyers with the flexibility to add more modern upgrades in the future. Only weakness to the design was the usage of aluminum super structure. The British experience in the Falkland War proved that aluminum was not survivable to ship fires caused by missile damage.

[@2paulcoyle]

I guess navy guys never threw empty beer cans into a camp fire, They had lots of welding failures at the Aluminum to steel hull. And then corrosion with two large different metals.

[@raywhitehead730]

Feel 1776 is mostly correct.

[@rogersmith7396]

Doped canvas would be easily repairable. Available in many stunning colors, not just the same old grey. Dior and Bill Blass editions. Get underaged sweatshop workers in the carribean to produce cheaply.

[@rogersmith7396]

@@2paulcoyle Now how would buying steel help Kaiser Aluminum? Use your head for gods sake.

[@Grenadier311]

The US needs a big battle-cruiser in each fleet armed to the teeth - packing a multitude of missiles including big hypersonics, mounting a large cannon, a fore and aft Rheinmetal Mantis or equivalent AAA gun, torpedo counter-measures, fore and aft CIWS and a chopper; able to destroy hordes of enemy shipping, pound the ground and defend itself from subs and air threats. The morale boost would be immense.

[@galadato7425]

And a price of 1,000,000,000$ for a ship 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@Grenadier311]

@@galadato7425 A destroyer already costs that much. I'm thinking about a 7 billion dollar price tag. A beast.

[@DarkRendition]

The threat posed by submarines makes such a large ship a target as prioritized as an aircraft carrier.

[@Grenadier311]

@@DarkRendition I added torpedo counter-measures and a chopper. :D

[@MrMarinus18]

It will also make a lot of contractors very happy. Remember the US is a capitalist country in not just on an economic level but on a social, political and religious level too. A big reason why they had so many overdesigned vessels that went nowhere is because they are by far the most lucrative contracts for corporations. This is also why the war in Afghanistan dragged on for 20 years as it was highly profitable. In the US the need to maximize profit for the military industrial complex can often take priority to the actual requirements of the military.

[@wolverines5279]

Its a nice looking concept ship I hope that is the actual look it looks more like a warship

[@thedownwardmachine]

You didn’t say that only peace can bring us together. That’s disturbing.

[@d283jdsk2]

Binkov is Russian. Only war can bring Ukraine and Russia together.

[@hectoraccented5312]

We can let it pass if the video is not about a imaginary conflict but about news of approved guidelines for a future contract...

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

@@d283jdsk2 the binkov crew isn’t Russian. They are from Croatia, although i think they live and work in Britain.

[@d283jdsk2]

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography i know

[@jonseilim4321]

Looks like the Chinese type 055 destroyer tbh

[@lja996]

Who cares? China's stealth fighters look like the F-22 and the F-35

[@fatdoi003]

but it'll cost 3x to build Type 055 costs $900m..... a Burke costs $1.8b.... so the new one can be easily starts from $2.5b

[@donchen4906]

@@fatdoi003 more than that. This one has 16k tons displacement. I would say it will cost At least twice as Burke 3

[@fatdoi003]

@@donchen4906 plus billions more in R&D from scratch

[@TheLokap360]

Except better

[@lykim6539]

People here have so much hate when U.S. copy a bit of the designs of Type 055, while Chinese always copy the U.S. stuff. I don't understand.

[@ddong9643]

LOL. bcz people enjoy criticizing, not being criticized.

[@jamesgraham6796]

This is probably a copy of a copy that the Chinese stole from US.

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

US did not copy anything, it is the other way round muppet

[@EGvids1]

DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

[@yiyangqin4527]

I think its quite the other way around From youtube or other media platform its always "China copy this china cheap that" than comes to US copy that similar comment appear you cannot handle it, that's quite sensitive tbh

[@MrBonners]

Where a ship's quarterdeck is lower then the main deck it is generally called a Frigate. In the Destroyer tonnage range the Frigate design is sometimes done, usually a helipad.

[@Lndmk227]

Hopefully this concept goes better than the Zumwalt did....

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

The Zumwalt wasn't a failure...in fact now that they are repurposing them to use the long range hypersonic weapon so they can be a stand off ship killer, they will be far more impressive than they ever could have been in their shore bombardment role.

[@cedriceric9730]

Zumwalt was always meant to be a test platform. Its core weapon system "failed" because they can't be built at scale. But a LOT of tech and concepts of the zumwalt has been copied and applied even in china

[@cmdr1911]

The zummalt DNA will live on in these new ships. There were many good things about it just way too ambitious

[@EGvids1]

DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

[@cedriceric9730]

@@cmdr1911 it's already everywhere, it proved that stealth can work for major surface vessels. Before it low observability agaisnt radar was taken for granted and considered mostly impossible for ships

[@RavensEagle]

3:56 radar made out of 69 blocks.... Nice

[@Gentleman...Driver]

Have a look at 1:52 As a sailor I would do anything to serve on that ship. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@thomaszhang3101]

Looks like a 055 and a arleigh burke had a bday and the US navy is paying for child support.

[@solifugus]

I know the Navy has investigated methods of 3D printing ship hulls for destroyers. Personally, I have a similar idea--vacuum cold welded. That is, two extrusion heads roll out 1/8" square wire (of cold rolled steel) using pressure in a vacuum to cause bonding. The sides of the wire would be brushed as it extrudes to eliminate any oxidization to a firm cold weld. I am not sure what the best pressure would be for this but would probably start with 200 pounds or so. It shouldn't require that much. One extrusion head would roll out steel from stern to bow while the other follows closely behind top-down with the bulkheads. The method would have limitations on some tight turns but this should be overall doable. This system could easily produce several full sized destroyer shells per day. That is, the hull, bulkheads, all decks (above and below) and extra structure. Obviously, there still remains a lot of work filling out the rest but the overall cost and time should be considerably reduced. Also, I tried cold welding stainless steel and it seems to work well. Although more expensive, such vessels could have less maintenance and much longer life spans, in addition to being amuned to magnetic mines. I wonder if titanium would work? If so, it's very expensive but would result is a very light weight and exceptionally fast destroyer. Using this square wire extrusion technique, there will also be flexibilities in fine structure for substantially enhanced impact resistance and other strength qualities. Personally, I would agree with the diesel electric propulsion because it is 3 times as energy efficient (perhaps toroidal propellers would make that 6 times), provides immediate full torque, and is also quiet. However, I would rely more on ultracapacitors for power regulation and short-term storage. Look at Skullcap technology, for example. They will charge very quickly and expel at variable rates, in addition to having unlimited recharge cycles without loss of capacity.

[@red_fox1140]

Is it me or that's like a straight up copy of the Chinese 055 Destroyer.

[@michaelsoland3293]

Once you develop a technology near its maximum potential, designs start to look extremely similar, turns out physics is the same regardless of what nation you’re in.

[@jeffreylmAu]

when did 055 had a 1/2 length bow?

[@GlockPerfection_19X]

Kind how China copied the MQ 9 Reaper with the CH 4 Rainbow, the UH60 Blackhawk with the z 20, The C-17 with the Y-20. I could keep going and going and going. Eventually you're gonna see designs that look similar but are almost completely different. All destroyers look pretty similar throughout the world. "If it ain't broke why fix it." Same with some Russian designs. The Rockwell B1b Lancer Vs The Tu-160 blackjack. Damn near the same plane from the looks and their missions are very similar. But let's not forget the biggest copy of all by China, The junkyard copy of An M4A, CQ 5.56mm . Shiz, they have contracts to build certain Russian weapons on Chinese soil and then being able to rename it since they're most likely inferior to the Russian original. Then you have China just ripping of certain Russian designs I'm sure. Kind of funny how nobody is buying any new Chinese jets either.... except for maybe dumbass Pakistan and a Myanmar.

[@janusjones6519]

@@GlockPerfection_19X jesus you could make anchovies with the amount of salt in this comment

[@red_fox1140]

@@GlockPerfection_19X is ok that you guys copy our design.

[@broworm1]

US: no the type 055 is a cruiser >:( also: our arleigh destroyer needs more tonnage for DDG(X)

[@raideurng2508]

And an F-16, a lightweight fighter is 12 metric tons, compared to 6 for the F-86 Sabre. Times change.

[@Attaxalotl]

I didn’t know the Saber was that light! That’s like, a big truck nowadays!

[@thatoneguynextdoor8794]

@@raideurng2508 yeah but the 055 is new too

[@arbiter204]

Damn there are a lot of people that like to shit on American designs and must have backgrounds in ship design here

[@rodfel2001]

They don't have to be ship designers to know when a copy is a copy ... lol ... lol ...

[@bluemoon1368]

@Rodfel Deuxmilleun you and all the other commenters should get you eyes checked. They are very clearly different shapes.

[@rodfel2001]

@@bluemoon1368 And you should have your brain examined, because it shows that some subject are too heavy and they weigh cruelly on it ...

[@arbiter204]

@@rodfel2001 are you a ship designer? Did you design the chinese ship you are referring to? No you arent and just because it reminds you of it doesnt mean it is one.

[@bluemoon1368]

@Rodfel Deuxmilleun you need to look at a side by side picture. And if you already have you have to get your eyes checked.

[@rickv9180]

Ah yes, the love child of the Arleigh Burke and Zumwalt class

[@seanxu13]

LOL. Its only a coincidence that these two classes of ships share similar stealth profiles, propulsion configurations, and vertical launch system placements. I guess the type 055 got it right.

[@MS-qx9uw]

hmm… maybe look at the Arleigh Burke DDGs, they’ve been operating since the 90s and were the first ships to look like that

[@g33zer]

ddg stands for duided dissile gestroyer

[@timurdemirkan5272]

Make a Video on a new Balkan War scenario, ie (Croatia, Serbia, Albania etc) C'mon! you know we need this.

[@RedBaronlives]

love to watch images of our craft.

[@texasranger24]

Looks like a way more realistic and practical initial design than the Zumwalt or some other crazy military programs

[@catonpillow]

It will still go grossly overbudget, make no mistake about it. By the time of its completion it will cost about as much as Zumvalt costs right now. Which is north of $4 bn per ship. So...

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

I wonder if the modular payload will be able to add more on, so if needed one vessel can bring incredible firepower.

[@peterchen2583]

Is that a 055 copy?? 🙂

[@fatdoi003]

yeah talk about Chinese stealing others designs

[@captainmauser8527]

The front also looks like a copy of the Russians new ship design too.

[@peterchen2583]

@@fatdoi003 believe it or not, it’s happening now and will have more and more such cases in future, just get used to it.

[@cecilmessi6972]

More like neat version of Arleigh Burke class

[@elmohead]

@@cecilmessi6972 lol it looks nothing like the Arleigh Burke. It's 055 copy.

[@kmmediafactory]

Looks like things are getting interesting in the military

[@scottjohnson1974]

Let's see you go to war with what you got not what you wish and it looks like we are up to bat

[@rogersmith7396]

$28 trillion deficit to go to $50 trillon. Oops, collapse of the dollar, sell the navy.