Using a Vevor Spot Welding Dent Puller - RA23 Toyota Celica Restomod (Part 31)

TBR - Ep. 046 - Spot of Bother (Violet Crumbles - Part 31)
So we're finally back on Violet Crumbles and we have a new Vevor FS12000S spot welding dent puller to go to work on that nasty rear quarter. Well overdue and a great learning curve on this one. Check it out!
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[@andruspuusta4230]

The rule is to work in from outside of the dent - not starting from the deepest section. For paint removal there are special disks that do not grind off metal. Of course those older cars have plenty of meat on their panels, so they are not as sensitive on that case as newer cars for example. Great video! Greetings from Estonia!

[@TheBuildRoom]

Estonia - Awesome! Greetings from Perth. Thanks for the tips, outside in definitely worked better.

[@aaronpetterson2207]

Lol. Liked the pool/ shrinkage analogy. Thanks for clearing that up! Hello from the states.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Welcome!

[@firstmkb]

It was helpful to see someone starting out with the tool. If I already knew how to use it, I wouldn’t have been looking for a video. The Vevor machine I bought seems pretty well built, but their manual is pretty useless.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah i definitely get a bit of use out if it - its not perfect but for the price it represents about the only way I'd be getting into a dent puller.

[@karljay7473]

I bought a stud welder kit from Harbor Freight about 12 years ago. I had to buy a Mac stud puller because the HF puller was crappy. With the HF stud welder and the Mac stud puller combo, it was awesome. It welds copper studs and one advantage is that you can weld on 5~10~20 of them in an area, then move from one to the other until you get the shape you want. I think I was in for about $200 for the whole thing. It was so great that I was taking out the slightest dings with no problem. Great tool.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah I'm super happy with it - already look at other dents I think it can help with so will definitely get the value from it. Thanks for watching!

[@rickybaez2970]

Thank your for your experience helps out all the diy dads outter like me

[@deanesh6389]

Excellent work. You've gotta be happy with that result 👍

[@TheBuildRoom]

Absolutely, stoked with the finished product considering I was thinking I had to cut the entire panel out.

[@Megatechauto]

Great video. You don't have to wiggle side to side, you just twist the tool right or left it should come out very easily.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Thanks for the tip! Glad you liked the vid.

[@gdvfgdhvfhbfhh23]

Smart man ! Greetings from California

[@buzzlight2nd1]

19:54 the image of Jay Leno, American car enthusiast and former talk show host

[@TheBuildRoom]

Hahaha - what a find! In the spirit of JDM Leno perhaps.

[@perjian1697]

For the tiny high spots, instead of using a hammer and dolly, you can also try use a spring loaded punch. We commonly use these on thinner matel panels with great success in helping level out a high spot. Cheers.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Thanks for the tips man - will definitely try that out on the next one - have been watching PDR vids too to see how they do it.

[@Demop_VW_garage]

Thanks for this demo, I'll be getting one for my channel too :)

[@TheBuildRoom]

No probs - glad it was helpful - just remember this one is really only strong enough for light pulling, and needs a decent circuit - if you have access to 3 phase I'd suggest looking at bigger units.

[@Demop_VW_garage]

@@TheBuildRoom yeh that's all I really need its on a 60 amp circuit so all good ;)

[@owenlambert6201]

Welcome back. Cool tool can I borrow it. I’ve got a few of those on my rear quarter as well.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Haha - shipping it back east may be cost prohibitive. Hopefully get a bit more time for the channel soon, have been struggling to get time for it recently but am getting through some other work so hopefully things free up soon.

[@bobfugazy4916]

Excellent episode Cam! That is a handy tool there. I grew up next to three autobody shops and the dent puller brought back memories. I had a thought on the bigger, deep dent - could you Dremel a line or two, maybe in a cross pattern just to get the metal out quicker and to provide "stretching relief"? Love the shirt, got mine, thank you very much for that, it looks great. Practice makes perfect. Violet Crumbles is looking better every episode. Come on 5K!

[@TheBuildRoom]

Thanks Bob, good suggestion on the relief cuts, they'd be easy enough to weld up once it was done. Glad you liked the shirts and yep eager to make 5k - have another project to try and move things forward so we'll see.

[@bobfugazy4916]

@@TheBuildRoom Looking forward to the Skyline build Cam. Keep going.

[@rajivsewnandan4865]

Great 👍, you can also get a car bodyfile to knock down those high spots as you go along. Sometimes arcing issues are caused by residue left behind on the panel from the primers... Wiping the metal with acid wash, aspirit salts or vinegar may help

[@TheBuildRoom]

Some great tips there, thanks for that will give them a shot! 👍

[@peterbugg2896]

The slide hammer is a useful tool when there is some beefy steel to get straight. I used it on the pushed in beaver on one side under the bumper. It was the only thing that would get it out. Luckily there are existing manufacturers holes to access that though.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah its amazing how much you can actually pull out of these things if you can get the right purchase - hope yours is coming along OK.

[@collinmichaelson]

I would have tried the carbon heat rod on the high spots. The one labeled as take out the fire lol

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah didn't really put enough heat in - might be the unit. I'll probably pick up an oxy set soon for that sort of shrinking

[@peterbugg2896]

I was hoping you would get that difficult dent out on the guard. I have one just like it. :)

[@TheBuildRoom]

Not the best place for a dent!

[@joescrewdriver9000]

Does it have shrinking ability? These machines usually have a broader attachment that heats without welding and essentially creates a lowe small. Stiffens even oil canned panels. The SharkDent is capable of doing this. Thanks for your input.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yes it has a shrinking head although personally i would say its a little under powered for heat shrinker - overally the machine is pretty good but if I had three phase access on my property i'd probably grab a beefier unit.

[@HorsleyLandy88]

copper plated steel electrode

[@TheBuildRoom]

Indeed

[@jasonchristen3858]

Curious about the setup you had to use, does it use a 10amp plug or 15amp plug? I'm hoping to use on my home workshop without 15amps just worried it will trip all the time. Are you still having this issue?

[@TheBuildRoom]

No i sorted my issue but best to speak to an electrician - assuming you're on 240v in Australia it should only need 10amp once its running but initial current draw (its basically creating a short at the contact point) overwhelms a standard RCD. MBB is a different story but not legal for most resi stuff.

[@jasonchristen3858]

@@TheBuildRoom Thanks for the response, undecided on pulling the trigger, read reviews on the Vevor website talking about needing 20amp plugs and other saying you have to bend the plug to fit etc. I sent a email off might have to get the cheaper stud welding all in one gun.

[@TheBuildRoom]

@@jasonchristen3858 yeah it's tough, a lot will depend on what else you have on the circuit for a standard plug. I have a dedicated non RCD circuit for mine, but can run my compressor etc on it too without issue. The pin guns aren't horrible so if your worried about the electrical side that'll be a reasonable alternative 👍

[@redespiritu8053]

Hm is ths one?

[@philldiver6265]

Trying to get one and im in UK, impossible to get one and Vevor Aus wont sell to me

[@TheBuildRoom]

Hope your search goes well Phill!

[@powdere4donuts]

Where did you get that magnetic pc you used on the ground?

[@TheBuildRoom]

Sorry mate have been away from the channel for a while - just going back through comments - just bought it from Bunnings - they're OK but have to be careful to put them on flat metal.

[@awishkaakalanka7751]

👍🏻

[@TheBuildRoom]

Thanks for watching

[@ashjones6014]

My understanding you need a 3fase for welding gear etc

[@TheBuildRoom]

Hi Ash - it really depends on current draw - my welder is designed for 15amp single phase, and you can get ones that are designed for 10amp single also. Lucky in Australia our 240v single phase offers more oomph than the 110v in the US - they need 3 phase on their equipment way before we do as we have over twice the voltage. Even here in Australia, you definitely need 3 phase 415v when you start getting into bigger machinery, and a 3 phase dent puller could have significantly more power to tack (and therefore pull) and a 3phase welder can weld thicker materials, but its not always strict requirement. I was welding 8mm steel plate with my welder no issue. Its all about getting the right power supply for the tool you want to use or vice versa. Hope this helps and thanks for watching, hope you liked the vid.

[@chriscatron3864]

And also not really sure what you are talking about we need three phase way before you do be you have twice the voltage. You don’t have any more power than we do.

[@blmb047]

Will it handle daily use? Do the threads look stout?

[@TheBuildRoom]

No, i don't think its suitable for daily/commercial use - if you want one for everyday use I'd be looking at 3 Phase at a minimum.

[@DespiertaVe]

@@TheBuildRoom what do you mean with 3 phase ?

[@TheBuildRoom]

@@DespiertaVe High output power suitable for industrial machinery. In Australia we call it 3 phase (as it has 3 power phases as appose to single phase residential) but in other countries people call it 415v or 440v or a bunch of other names depending on localised electrical standards. Check out this for better info than I can give: www.oempanels.com/240v-single-phase-and-240v-3-phase

[@grahamm3559]

I just bought the exact machine and it's tripping the breaker. Need to get that sorted 😕

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah its the curves on the RCD that were my issue - a good sparky can sort it out. 👍

[@grahamm3559]

@@TheBuildRoom I'm glad I'd seen your video before I bought it.. was kind of expecting it to happen which made it not so disappointing haha will get the breaker changed over. Did you upgrade the supply cord into the machine as well? The one on mine seems a bit light duty for his sort of thing.

[@TheBuildRoom]

@@grahamm3559 Not originally because I wanted to be able to send it back if the unit was a problem, have since upgraded the plug but left the cord. It hasn't really pulled enough current in my use to be an issue

[@ReeseWilliams38]

@@TheBuildRoom what you mean about the issue you was having because mines welds don’t hold

[@xstevex59]

How’s it holding up?

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah good - i don't use it that often TBH but for a home user that has a big enough power circuit its fine. When i first got it i was convinced it needed more power but i was just trying to pull too hard, which ends up rough as. Slow and steady with small pulls is the key.

[@bodysheetmetalrepair495]

very good，We are an automotive equipment manufacturer, mainly producing lamps for sheet metal repair machines and infrared coatings,

[@TheBuildRoom]

Thanks!

[@ianfarquharson3772]

I really hope you got a dedicated plug ran back to a bigger fuse,and not just put a bigger fuse on your garage sockets ring??? Gets expensive to upgrade your houses electricity just to use the "cheap" tool😂

[@TheBuildRoom]

Definitely why i recommend people get an electrician to check their setup out. Mine was not an expensive upgrade, others may have a different experience.

[@reynansagayno7300]

How much may frnds

[@TheBuildRoom]

Have a look at the Vevor website

[@redneckswitwheels]

All my years of bodywork i have never had to hammer n dolly a panel after welding and grinding... check out fitz fabrication for how to do real bodywork....

[@TheBuildRoom]

Yeah I watch fitzy, he's great, although I haven't watched his full catalog - lots of rust repair there but I haven't seen much in terms of dent removal which is obviously a different kettle of fish. Lots of people hammer and dolly welds to combat the shrinkage post welding, with both mig and tig - it just depends on the finish you're looking for. Check out Japhands (Make it Custom) for some repair work that's filler free. Both Japhands and Fitzy are way above my skill level, I don't claim to be there at all.

[@redneckswitwheels]

@@TheBuildRoom ok... so here we are talkin about fit, finish, welding and regardless if its a dent , ding or welded replacement panel.. u said weldin creates heat. After welding u ssaid thepanel would need to be gammered and dollied after grindin...to which i said no..if u do it correctly there shouldnt be any need to rework with a dolly n hammer if u do ur welding correctly.

[@edmundfitgerald9411]

Thank you. With all Due respect talk less and do more would be best videos.

[@TheBuildRoom]

Lol, I do love to talk! Thanks for the feedback.

[@aaronpetterson2207]

That was rude. I enjoyed your accent and transparency.

[@davidvalens3337]

you talk so much bro. I would just wanted to see you use the machine and see how to best use this machine

[@TheBuildRoom]

lol - yep I'm a talker. Sorry if the video didn't help.

[@davidvalens3337]

@@TheBuildRoom I just wanted a video on how to properly use it. Starting with action and under 3 mins.

[@TheBuildRoom]

@@davidvalens3337 Yeah don't really do short form at this point, there's lots of other channels that do tool reviews and quick instructional a lot better than I could at the moment. If I do start doing it down the line I'll keep a simplified version of this vid in mind.

[@markconley9279]

Drilling holes is super old. You skipped over a stud welder.

[@TheBuildRoom]

I thought i talked about studs, but if I didn't that's a valid point.👍

[@Rheworldistours]

Why does one of the dents looks like a demon?😮

[@TheBuildRoom]

Oh it definitely was a demon. 🤣