Using Real Pedals with Amp Sims? Absolutely!

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@harryanderson7282 6 ай бұрын

This was something I figured out for myself way back in the Pod Farm days, and was then, and is still today, one of the easiest ways to get a sim tone to sound "fuller"/ less sterile.

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

So far I am enjoying cycling a few pedals through to see what I get.

@harryanderson7282 6 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio Shall I tell you a secret then? Rocktron Metal Planet. ;)

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

@@harryanderson7282 dang. I haven’t owned a rocktron anything since back when I had a prophecy preamp! The metal planets seem to be on the cheaper end of resale. Might just grab one!

@modernroyaljams 6 ай бұрын

I have been doing this for years. It’s still good ideas to record a clean non overdriven signal in case you need it.

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

Yep. I have been experimenting with running a small pedal board like an outboard preamp by routing a clean DI track line out from the DAW and back into my interface. It works pretty well!

@modernroyaljams 6 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio I need to try it with a DIY box.

@XChristianNoirX 5 ай бұрын

If you like the MKIII pickle, try the MKII. I tried the large and small version and kept the large... I might order like 3x of the small version though from skmehwre with a return policy to do a super nerd comparison though, because fuzz pedals seem to have variations between them.

@BaritoneGoatStudio 5 ай бұрын

I should try the different variants! I really like the pickle in general.

@wce74wce15 2 ай бұрын

How do you run real reverb and delay after the ampsim using interface?

@BaritoneGoatStudio 2 ай бұрын

This could be done hypothetically using one of the outputs on the interface. If you have a 3rd output you could output the processed amp sim signal through that output. Leave the cab section off, then run the signal through your effects, back into the interface and load you cabs/IRs onto a second track with the incoming amp signal. I haven’t ever done this, but I might try now. Not sure how latency and playing in real time would be affected, or if there would be any DA conversion issues.

@theAristocrap 6 ай бұрын

Super honest opinion: when I heard Colossus, I immediately though: ewwww, so digital... And then the Pickle, and I thought: you really perfectly captured the sound of it with Colossus :) My verdict: the differences are negligible, much more prominent in the SD. But at the end of the day distortion is about destroying the signal and this is something that even early PODs did well.

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

I think the sounds aren’t super far from each other. And really, slamming fuzz into a high gain channel is a bit overkill. The digital effects have a slight flatness to them that doesn’t respond quite right to dynamic picking. There is something in the way the analog circuit being in front of the interface changes the response when picking. I have my buffer pretty low and the latency is pretty negligible. I may try out some more mellow tones and see if there is anything substantial when trying to produce more dynamic sounds using pedals. Part of me was looking at plug-in companies that were selling modeled versions of pedals I already own and thinking… thats cool! But then thinking, why not just use the actual pedal? I guess same could be said about amps.

@theAristocrap 6 ай бұрын

@@BaritoneGoatStudio Most amp people will swear that as good the modelers are (for gigging), they will record their tracks on real amps. I don't hear much of a difference in a mix and probably most of the crowd too. But the feeling of amp pumping through the cab in the room is something that cannot be replicated just by hooking a guitar to an interface (as handy as it is).

@PressK 6 ай бұрын

Duck… now I want a fuzz

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

The pickle is a mean sounding one!

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been doing this a bunch lately. I run the pedal into interface, then onto a track with Genome. In Genome I use their plain power amp model and a cab IR. For extra awesomeness use the Genome built in NAM module instead of their power amp model. Some dudes on tone hunt have uploaded a bunch of quality power amp only captures of famous amps.

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 ай бұрын

Modeled power amps?! Hell yeah. I gotta get beck on to tone hunt. What a time to be a guitarist!

@asdfasdfasdfsadf7868 8 күн бұрын

does the overdrive cause the preamp signal to go into the red?

@BaritoneGoatStudio 6 күн бұрын

It can. Especially if the boost is a a clean boost without a clipping circuit. ODs tend to be less “loud” in how they amplify the signal. I use a DI box in front of my interface to par levels of need be. Sometimes the DA conversion shows input clipping on the interface, but the digital input isn’t clipping. Hi Z inputs on interfaces can be wildly variable, so I always recommend having a DI box to run the signal into the XLR if possible.