Using STUPID Gen Z Logic Against Their Era

[@jonnyarnett]

Who’s most to blame for present day Basketball discourse?

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

skip bayless

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

Adam Silver. Worst commissioner in sports

[@colewrld901]

2010s NBA fans. Most modern fans are casuals and aren't real fans of basketball. Which is why the viewership is down. They don't watch their own era

[@markellzey1531]

Sport media...that's an easy one.

[@BabayaGuns]

Social media , people today would try to push certain naratives through social media and it doesnt help that anyone can have a platform. People are easily manipulated with the amount of content we view everyday

[@Realest1ne]

What’s funny about the MJ shot on Brent Barry is that there’s a photo of LeBron getting a fadeaway blocked by a Knicks player who fits their stereotype of a “plumber” 😂

[@ImportAl]

Lol especially since Brent Barry was a legit athlete who free throw dunked with his warmup still on like Bird in the 3 pt contest, and Lebron never even entered dunk contest.

[@xKingKB7x]

And there’s a video of MJ losing to a CEO businessman in 1v1. Just saiyan

[@Realest1ne]

@@xKingKB7x Just saying what? There’s also a video of him cooking an NBA player in a 1v1 who said that he could beat him.

[@ImportAl]

@xKingKB7x there's also 4K footage of Lebron getting cooked in Finals by Tony Parker, Jason Terry, and dunked on by prep Jordan Crawford. Just saying, he's not the GOAT.

[@xKingKB7x]

@@Realest1ne it’s a pattern

[@jc_._5144]

I'm 20, so definitely on the younger end of basketball fans, but I like to think im pretty unbiased and knowledgeable about the game, and this video is great, so happy someone did this, the hypocrisy in basketball discourse among younger fans is ridiculous and i really love that someone is finally pointing it out, especially you because this has been one of my favorite channels and you always discuss basketball topics the right way, thanks

[@hellraiser420]

Same, im 22 and I hate all the disrespecting people do to any era before the year 2000. People our age don't understand anything about the legends of the 60s 70s 80s and 90s, let alone the non superstar players who were still all stars in their own right, they wouldn't even know the names of people like Kevin Johnson, Gail Goodrich, Terry Porter, etc. yet if they see them in a 5 second cherry picked clip they'll label them as bums, and they'll praise similar caliber players in the modern era

[@Cannon4545]

You probably are fairly unbiased and knowledgeable. We know it's not really all of Gen-Z.

[@thomash8501]

I'm 50 and am very happy to read this. Great to see that you respect the NBA of the past and are knowledgeable.

[@thomash8501]

@@hellraiser420 I'm 50 and am just so glad to read your comment and see that some of you younger guys really have a great perspective and respect for the history of the game.

[@ivrsxx]

i be 18 nd i acc respect the older era of ball , tho got friends know nun abt the old gen nd clownin it 😂😂

[@andreaivanov3752]

One of the things I hate most about today’s era is how everyone glorifies players for their dribbling skills where 90% of their dribbles would have been carries in the 90s…

[@jordansoviet23]

Also today's players don't know what pivot foot they gonna use when they stop dribbling the ball.

[@jarekkowalewski]

and 10seconds of that dribbling is going nowhere, eventually the defender just gets bored.... so ye on average all these guys can shoot better and dribble better....but everybody doing it all the time and it gets repetitive and boring.......and on average they are worse at D

[@markogjorgiev4912]

@@jordansoviet23 as someone who used to be a referee and had a job to enforce these rules its painful to watch. You can't say you are better than someone if you get pass for every illegal move you make. Carries, travelling and offensive fouls are so obvious and often that they became part of the game. And if you need to add a thing like a "gather step" its just tells you that they are adding an additional step. The gather step is a thing but you need to coordinate yourself to not make a full step. Lets say you are going for a right hand layup, you need to coordinate your legs so your left foot is already down when you gather the ball and you are going to the 2 steps and not gather and make 2 additional ones. How is the defense supposed to defend someone that can break the rules but you can't even touch them?

[@Ben-zr4ho]

Or when they say Bob Cousy couldn't dribble? Like motherfer... You think he's dribbling top down like that because he WANTED to? Like he just wasn't good enough or smart enough to dribble in a style 6 year olds today have mastered? They HAD to dribble like that dmmy.

[@MrGyonex]

And totally unnecessary in terms of efficiently

[@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie]

As a Zoomer I love when people say guys back in the day weren’t athletic and then you show them clips of Bill Russell as a high jumper

[@DoggG-z7x]

Bill was an athletic freak and that's a fact!

[@legendarywiimaster]

Didn’t he have like a 48 inch vertical?

[@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie]

@ something crazy like that yeah

[@Cannon4545]

@@legendarywiimaster Don't think it was quite that high.. only MJ has a 48 on record AFAIK. But he was a freak. Might have hit 48 with modern training and shoes. I also defy any modern athlete to go toe to toe with Wilt and survive.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@ I don’t think MJ was at 48, I don’t know where the numbers came from but I’m sure it was in the 40s

[@colewrld901]

It's so funny how modern fans gas up this current era while shitting on past eras, only for the viewership to be down, because they don't even watch the games lol

[@Intr0vertical]

We don't watch cus of the amount of insane ads

[@colewrld901]

@@Intr0vertical nah yall don't watch because u don't actually enjoy the live product lol u won't sit down and watch. Yall have to catch the condensed highlights lol

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

20 years ago viewership was awful when mid-2000s NBA was unwatchable, yet people pine for those days because they think defense without offense is 'real basketball'

[@Fernando-vg4ym]

@@chrisuncleahmad666 Really? Have you seen the ratings for the Finals in those years as opposed to the last ten years? You obviously don't know WTF you're talking about. So typical of todays "so called" fans.

[@golddragon937431]

​@@chrisuncleahmad666 lmfao yet the numbers are still lower today. The nba numbers this year are ASTRONOMICALLY low because the product is just slop with 0 defense. Fouls are flopping are 60% of the sport now. I mean seriously Shai and embiid their entire careers are based off of flopping. The viewership is lower then it has been since the 80's. The league is dying and it's because the product itself is worse

[@RevisedGames]

I'm Gen Z and have absolute respect for the old school players from ANY era. No one should ever discredit the athletes that paved the way for this new younger generation playing basketball. Legends like Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Kobe Bryant raised basketball to new heights and the NBA wouldn't be as popular as it is today without those guys! Also, I hope my Grizzlies can finally win a championship this year or in the near future! Excellent video! :D

[@PeterAtkinson]

Brilliant video Jonny! The younger generation need a taste of their own medicine. I love talking about all eras of basketball and any team or player. Unfortunately, most fans just want to argue and put down your guy to make their guy look better. 👍

[@cenanation123456]

I'm Gen Z and started watching basketball in 2008, the game was most different before, I like the time period from 2008-2014 before everyone jacked 3s up Viewership is down b/c people watch youtube highlights or look at stats

[@rogelioatempa1115]

Viewership is down mostly because of illegal streaming my guy. Especially if you take international numbers into play more people are watching today than ever before. There's a reason why the NBA still signs massive TV deals, and that's because they know that people are still watching.

[@propthetopofacop]

@@rogelioatempa1115 this exactly. people just look at the numbers without any context, and they think the viewership is down. this isnt the case, most people just dont want to pay a butt load of money when they could watch it for free lol

[@jacobboruszkowski]

​@@rogelioatempa1115the numbers on people watching the nba live vs on videos isn't close. Not that many people watch live relative to keeping up on KZbin and such

[@PiGuy007]

“Mindless sheep.” That’s a pretty accurate description. The thing is, you can’t argue with stupid so I don’t even bother.

[@ianmason2003]

Couldn’t love this enough. 51 years old. And the 90s bulls are my team and bird is my guy.

[@jordanjenkins1671]

I'm 31 and didn't start following the NBA until 2010. Honestly I believe if you call yourself a fan of the game and its history, you'd come to appreciate the past greats and eras. I agree the standard of greatness has been lowered by and for these current stars.

[@DARTH-KTULU]

I’m 48, and have been watching since the early 80’s. I always loved the game, played through high school, but when I only grew to 5’5 my athletic goals shifted to weightlifting. I’ve still watched every nba finals since 1987 and as many playoff games as I can. I can see both sides of the arguments and while I see the flaws in the old and new eras both, I still love this game. Thank you Johnny for your content. You and Jimmy Highroller should collaborate.

[@Ben-zr4ho]

Muggsy did it. What's your excuse? Oh wait are you white?

[@JJPHILLYLG]

This seems to be done by many generations on many topics…music, sports, movies etc. The most current generation generally thinks they’re better than the pasts.

[@legendarywiimaster]

And the other way around. How often do you see an older player yapping about “oh the NBA is soft” or Jordan would average 50?

[@JJPHILLYLG]

@@legendarywiimaster Yes I should have put each generation generally thinks their gen is the best.

[@dejahvou]

I knew this was about to be a good one when he compared this era to a McDonald's ice cream machine.

[@Maximillian200HP]

Damn, you didn't hold back, you're normally so reserved and cordial, even when you're being critical of players. That being said, DAAAAAAAMNNNNN!!!! ( #Friday #Smokey #Craig) Jonny rolled up his sleeves (assuming he wasn't wearing a basketball jersey) for this one! P.S. - I liked the video! P.P.S. - Keep up the steady output of content, it's like other NBA KZbinrs aren't trying, freaking slackers! (Maybe they're taking time off due to "Load Management")

[@courtneybenton9381]

McDonald’s ice cream machine is always down good point

[@ShniitSchneyder]

hoopnerds unite, no matter your generation!

[@MatthewWilliams-tv6cy]

I love the modern era, I love the 2000s, the 90s, 80s all of it. I love NBA basketball period

[@acdcdave1387]

Easily one of the better videos you've done, good sir

[@brhyno926]

I LOVE THIS VIDEO and agree with your take 100%. Some people's take on various generations of basketball tend to lack nuisance.

[@tifrfr4934]

ESPN

[@leseanwalston7916]

LMAO@ Luka on the cones is definitely great meme/gif material🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jonnyarnett]

I know I'm roasting him in the video, but it honestly makes me respect him even more. The fact that he averaged 34 while being THAT slow, is inspirational 😂

[@Cannon4545]

I still can't get over or understand how slow he is. And somehow Jokic is even _slower._ I was literally faster as a five-year-old. I don't get it.

[@jasonvargas4798]

@@jonnyarnett He is one of my favorite in the modern era, he is one of the few that is still fueled by a competitive drive.

[@Mattulaak]

I was going to watch something educational for dinner like I normally do, but I needed to see my favorite basketball youtuber slap the faces of ignorant fans and trolls.

[@elreiec1]

Jonny, seeing those AI images of Steph in a Lakers jersey had me dry heaving like no other. Great video as usual. All these points needed to be said.

[@Cannon4545]

did you notice the 80s hair too? perfect ha.

[@RyeAkai]

Really enjoyed the video, both because I had a good laugh with the critiques to the current era (and I'm a big fan of both Jokic and Luka) and most of all, because of the overall point of the video. We have some tremendous players today, but we most definitely had them before to, and we will have them in the future. I'm fine if some people say they prefer today's basketball to yersteryear's basketball, but I'm not fine when people denigrate the talent of an era to make their favorite player look better. My favorite era is the 00s, and it's true I love the talent of the era, but it's not my favorite era because players were just better than before or after, it's because I felt the game was in a good spot were players were shooting 3s much more than in the 90s and before, but definitely less than today, I felt there was a good balance between outside, mid, and inside game, while defense was rightfully praised. I know for a fact that Jokic, Luka, Hakeem, MJ, Magic, Larry, West, Kareem, Wilt and Bill would've all thrived in the 00s too. Sure they'd have to adapt a bit, but thet would still be All-Time Greats, there's no doubt in my mind. Of course, this goes both ways. Stephen Curry is NOT just a Shareef Abdur-Rauf and Patrick Ewing was not just a Rudy Gobert or something like that.

[@stavrospavlides2093]

Preach! The current brand of fandom brings out the worst in everyone. It's unbearable

[@jeremycrumpton7881]

My boy Johnny crashin tf out, and I’m here for all of it!😂

[@fortnitejake850]

Wow. I thought i wasn’t going to like this video but that wholesome ending put it all in perspective. Its all about the ACTUAL BASKETBALL 💯

[@harrisonkorkos]

This the energy we need more of. Some kids can’t say shit because they don’t study the games 2000s and before.

[@ZuluZuluEcho]

I’m gen z I started watching in 2014 my favorite player is James harden bc of his generational scoring and the way he did it, but I love the older generations so much even the 60s. Not the 50s though we don’t speak on them.

[@Jamal-sy3pg]

I love this video cuz it gives me Skap Attack vibes 😂😂😂😂

[@jonnyarnett]

I thought about using the music he uses in his videos, but I figured that would be TOO on the nose 😂

[@legendarywiimaster]

⁠@@jonnyarnettSkap Attack is literslly nothing but an oldhead who glazes Kobe and hates on LeBron for the stupidest reasons. Half of Skap’s videos are LeBron related, this dude has LeBron at the edge of the top 10 for the love of God. DON’T model your videos around him, trust me, I’ve watched some of his videos and they are incredibly biased and NEVER objective. This dude believes that LeBron headed to Miami is the same as when KD went to Golden State. He’s also one of those dudes who cares so much about “bags”, which doesn’t surprise me because Kobe is his favorite player. He’s also of the belief that the NBA teamed up to rob Kobe and he also has tried to tear down LeBron’s legacy multiple times and use arguments out of context. I bet he only hates on LeBron because he’s being compared to his favorite player, Kobe, who I know happens to be your favorite player. That aside, can you make a video about some of the oldheads as well, all they do is whine about today’s game. I’ve watched 90s games and don’t get me wrong they’re very entertaining, great teams, great players, etc. But the 90s is not perfect, no era is.

[@Cannon4545]

@@legendarywiimaster Pretty sure he just does it because it gets him clicks. I can't stand Lebron, and would honestly rather watch a Lebron vid than a Skap Attack vid. It's aimed at people who want to hear what they want to hear.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@ Skap sounds so damn serious but at the same time sounds like a troll

[@mahihoque4598]

Bro went off. Good job you know both era to talk the talks

[@tangerinedream106]

I can't wait until 2050 when the 2010s/20s NBA fans start crying because the 2050s kids are calling LeBron, Curry, KD, and other players from that era trash. "2020s players were just as skilled as modern players!" Recency bias is one hell of a drug! The modern day NBA fans will realize it when they get told that their favorite players "can't hang".

[@Realest1ne]

@@tangerinedream106 Same thing I said when the “we done with the 90’s” trend started. And I’m just gonna sit back and laugh.

[@tangerinedream106]

@@Realest1ne Man those kids in 2050 are gonna have a FIELD DAY when they find out about Shaqtin' A Fool LOL.

[@AWF1000]

I miss those days when the score was so low because defense was so strong.. now i feel like im watching nba 2k 3 point shooting spam. FIBA is probably the closest in seeing old school nba basketball due to how physical it gets.

[@joshuafish98]

This is a great piece of work Jonny. Excellent points throughout in establishing that the game is bigger than the individuals and the eras.

[@omez23]

It's about time we started playing offense instead of defense. Great job on this one Jonny!

[@Schoflixx]

You’re a blessing to the NBA community 🙌🏽

[@uberneanderthal]

this why they hate Jokic. he single-handedly disproves all their stereotypes about modern vs old players he looks and plays like someone from the 50s, but is abusing current players without even trying

[@narrow3601]

Because generational talent seeps through any era or circumstance you can possibly pit them against. It's the truth not many seem to be able to comprehend. That's why they're called generational in the first place.

[@Sebatana-vk1op]

Jonny. This has BY FAR been you're best video that you have made in a while You have one of the most brilliant minds in the basketball sphere.This is the most GENIUS IDEA AND EXECUTION I think I've seen on KZbin period.YES JONNY more videos like this please!!!!! This was one was FANTASTIC

[@DavidThomas-dy3kq]

Preach Jonny Arnett a lot of these kids were born in the late 90s early 2000 never saw the 90s these kids don't even watch full NBA games now they will wait and watch highlights on KZbin

[@pasandesilva2295]

My boy Jonny went HARD in this one! 😂❤ Love the sassy side of you, mate!

[@quyenevans6948]

I agree with Jonny however both generations of fans make it bad for each other; the modern fans say the 80s and 90s were plumbers yet put bird, magic, jordan and sometimes hakeem in their top tens alltime and fail to acknowledge some forgotten greats of the past eg drexler, dumars, moncrief just because they are arguably slightly less skilled than modern players. And the older fans call this era soft discrediting the skill of players today because THE LEAGUE made it easier. Are players soft for skipping games or taking plays off? Yes. Does the league absurdly bend the rules? Yes. But need i reminder you the league removed handchecking in 2003, a form of physical defence, and the 2000s to early 2010s WAS STILL the most deadball era in history and Silver only relaxed rules in the last few years to bolster offense, reduce flopping and bring back some level of physicality(which i think this season we are seeing with lower scores and less whistles by refs). If this supposed physical defence was brought back from the 80s and 90s dont you think they would be more injuries due to less flagrant fouls and obvious blatant attempts to hurt opposing players, lead to more load management and less coverage of stars across the league; everything has a butterfly effect. If anything its just ignorant fans from both generations tryna rage bait instead of acknowledging the pros and cons of the modern and post merger era and leaving it at that. Im 18 btw.

[@Yinon776]

Johnny Arnett might be the most balanced, rational, unbiased and realistic content creator on the entire internet.

[@bigsteppergid]

yeah right fan boy

[@august6281]

agree. 1 evidence was how he's a big Kobe Fan but still admit the flaws of Kobe during the 04 Finals and that Suns gm7. 2 events that fanatics will sugarcoat

[@bigsteppergid]

@@august6281 stop lying. he has clear bias for the 90’s and MJ. And there’s nothing wrong with being honest

[@Cannon4545]

@@bigsteppergid He has a preference for the 90s. Not sure I see the bias, honestly.

[@rogelioatempa1115]

​@@Cannon4545it's definitely bias. I mean he legitimately called today's NBA players offensive abilities incompetent when that couldn't be further from the truth.

[@dreaman.3]

This has become my favorite KZbin video.

[@clevisbernier8973]

Atta Boy Johnny! I appreciate you putting them in their place.

[@thomash8501]

Amen Jonny! Thank you!! Outstanding video!!! People, the progression of time DOES NOT equal superiority. Linear time DOES NOT absolutely equate to elite status and pure progress. The 1980's and 1990's were the golden age of NBA basketball and it has been declining ever since the 2010's. Do this: Go watch a complete regular season game from today and one from the 1980's or 1990's. Do the same with playoff games. Players back in the day were just as athletic and skilled as today's players. Except back then, you didn't have nearly as much whining, flopping, players sitting out for load management and with fake injuries, 3-point shooters were specialists, basically basketball snipers, unlike today where everyone shoots 3's because spacing is so wide and defense overall is crap. The game is garbage today compared to the real basketball that men played back in the day. Check out "15 NBA Legends Share Their Problems With Today's NBA" by YounGala for more truth on this topic.

[@JD-xs2si]

Hey man, I love this video! I am 100% with you. But here is the thing with my generation: apparently beliefs weigh more than facts/reason. Sadly, no matter how many facts we can provide even if they are scientifically proven, they won't believe it because feelings and beliefs go first and weigh more for them. Still, please keep making these videos. You speak 100% facts

[@AJ_Osser]

Really really REALLY love to see you on ofense🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@hellionus]

Jokic could be great in the 80s and 90s too, because he is basically Arvydas Sabonis before injuries, and people know how great that version of Sabonis is.

[@Cannon4545]

Sabonis was pretty athletic though pre-injury. But yeah Jokic would fit in very well in the 80s and 90s.

[@patanouketgersiflet9486]

@@Cannon4545 Skill and high basketball IQ are good criteria to fit in any era.

[@Cannon4545]

@@patanouketgersiflet9486 Yeah, although there are sometimes exceptions, esp. for specialists.

[@jaridatkinson4907]

Ya i think sabonis was better he was basically jokic w athleticism

[@celtics17banners84]

Oh this should be good

[@omegacroc2928]

Really well made.

[@ZeeZeeFaa]

Veritcals Spud 47 inch vs Morant 44 inch MJ 48 inch vs Antman 41.5 inch Dominique 46 inch vs balco 44 inch Kemp 41 inch vs Zion 45 inch Shaq 32 inch vs Jokic 17 inch

[@VonKappallot]

while i stand that old heads fabricate a lot of things to downplay our era and boost theirs, and i believe its harder to play defense due to how much ground you have to cover. But ill never disrespect them. i just want the older generations to actually take time and study our era and what makes it so great instead of just being so quick to dismiss it and not even give it a chance. It doesnt whose era is better, or who era had what rules, its all subjective and we can only judge players/teams based off they did they in the time they played in with the rules they were given

[@sergioa.9695]

You're spot on. Unfortunately i almost gave up on conments because too many young fans don't understand past eras but also because older people like me just refuse to try to understand this era and how the game has evolved. A perfect era doesn't exist and I follow basketball since the 80's. Obviously i'm more attached to the eras on which i grew up but i still enjoy the game to this day. I actually think that with some adjustaments today's nba could be amazing, the officiating is really what disturb me the most rather than the amount of 3 pointers taken and the heavy perimeter oriented game which i totally understand. Jokic is one of my favorite players ever and he's a product of this era.

[@propthetopofacop]

this is true. to say that the old era is bad is wrong, but that doesnt make ours bad either. also, i dont understand people who say defense is bad today 😭. the pace is fast, and the offense is amazing, and that doesnt make the defense bad

[@egrassa1480]

​@@propthetopofacopwith how strong foulbaiting is, how lax refs are on carries and travels defense is indeed weak. Players are not trash defenders, but its only so much you can do with these kind of rules and officiating

[@ZincAddict]

today Johnny woke up and chose violence

[@Das-Biggs]

Appreciate this video. Thanks for your work

[@DonSMDT]

HOT TAKE: MJ could play in the NBA today I don't even mean like prime Jordan, I mean 61 year old, 2024 MJ

[@Aquadolphin314]

I know you weren't being entirely serious, but still you managed to convince me that this current era is absolute trash 😅

[@jonnyarnett]

Lol, to be fair, my point was that IF you focus on only the negatives, you could probably make ANY era seem like trash 😂

[@jaketerpening3284]

@@jonnyarnett Sure, but I feel like it seems the criticisms of the 90s are frequently completely unfounded (like the MJ having no left hand one). The lack of defensive expectations for stars in the modern era seems just undeniably damning. Like, it would be one thing if they were consistently good defenders but not making all defense teams, but so many of the top guys are straight up bad defenders.

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

​@@jonnyarnettWith the exception being of the eighties and nineties NBA.

[@DIXIE-DEAN]

KZbin Badges going to prove I was a supporter before you get massive 💪

[@StevenCarr-l4n]

Every new era will badmouth the old era.

[@skolcole]

Nah, intelligent young people trash their own current era and realize it's a joke compared to what it was even 15 years ago.

[@jenaestewart5299]

As g z I approve this message

[@farazchaudhry7086]

This might be your best video yet.

[@gugga2745]

this is a good watch

[@dryames4319]

You tell em Jonny, been waiting on this one for a while💪🏾

[@leclark5067]

Oooh Get 'em Jonny!

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

Preach,Jonny, preach !

[@michaeljamesmccabe]

Thanks for this Jonny!

[@awesomereviews1561]

For the modern NBA skills: Their skills aren’t necessarily better. It’s mostly the rules that allowed them to do things that the generation prior couldn’t do ( no hand check, freedom of movement rule, carry the ball, travel). Proof is in the international competitions. US can’t do any of this there and look a lot different. Just look at last summer. The US sent one of their best team ever, and they barely won against much “weaker” opposition.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

The reason I damn near stopped watching basketball was a lack of skill. Every damn rule in place unbalanced the game towards the defense yet the 04 Pistons are revered despite their defensive stats being artificially inflated. After the 2005 Finals, I didn't watch a single NBA game until 2011 when Dirk did the impossible

[@Randomytname1]

@@chrisuncleahmad666out of your mind

[@Epupify]

@@Randomytname1 I'd say his point is pretty valid. None of the 2000's stars were regarded as good as players like Jordan, many other of the 90's stars, and superstars from the 80's. Even when the period coincided with the rise of players with finessed dribbling skills and increased dunking abilities. Only in hindsight players like Kobe, KG, Nowitzki, T-Mac, or Nash did start to be regarded as great talents from the era, and among the greatest of all time. The rule changes did favor a super defensive, slow, and low scoring game compared with even the 90's game. And finally, the retirement of Jordan made a big bunch of basketball fans feel like the game wasn't as fun anymore. So it's true the popularity of the game dropped in that era, and yes, it made a comeback at the end of the decade, that reached it's zenit with the first few years of the Warriors dinasty.

[@legendarywiimaster]

By your logic the defensive studs of the 90s weren’t any better

[@rogelioatempa1115]

@awesomereviews1561 how can you say that the skill isn't getting any better when the average free throw percentage today is higher than it ever has been, in the high 70's. From the 60's-90's it was regularly in the low to mid 70's. What rule change did the NBA implement to make free throws easier?

[@nathanlawson313]

To add to your points about eras crossing over, a coach went back and watched every Pistol Pete college game. He determined he was shooting an avg of 6-13 from 3pt range. Not only a crazy amount of 3s for the time but means his 44 would be 50pt avg today.

[@nicolasm.3708]

Thank you!

[@mouhamedmambagueye4633]

thank you Jonny

[@marektelicka6082]

Loving this! Thank you so much! Maybe you are not aware of it but the ideas of your channel transfer to everyday life as well. Thank you for the voice of reason in basketball community. 😊👍

[@Realest1ne]

As a “millennial”, I hate to admit that many of my generation also do this stupid shit. It’s not just the kids and younger adults.

[@CousinRickie]

TALK TO EM!!!!!!!

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

I don't think these modern fans are right about past eras, but neither are those old school fans who are hating soo much on this era altough they never saw players like Luka Doncic, Joel Embiid eho before his injury shot 59% from mid-range last season and that stat was after 30 games of playing. Neither Kevin Durant or Michael Jordan averaged nearly as great FG% from mid-range like Embiid last season before his injury. And of course, nobody has seen player like Nikola Jokic. Player who plays center and who is shooting 56% from deep on 4 attempts per game this season which is 13% higher 3 point % right now than the greatest shooter of all time (I'm not comparing Jokic to Curry, just saying how unbelievable and ridiculous he is playing right now and he is center btw), he is shooting 84% from the free throw line, he is passing the ball like Magic Johnson, he is rebounding like prime Tim Duncan and all of that while averaging 30 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists, 1,7 steals and 1 block. Nobody has seen playing like him before. Soo maybe you should also make a video to critisize all old school fans or maybe you are also one of them eho is constantly hating on this era right now despite looking the fact that there are many incredible talents and players in this league right now 🤔

[@JohnWickson-iw5ne]

Facts they complain about younger fans but hate on the modern era

[@cjtheautisticbarber5542]

The guy on X that says the shit about Brent Barry trying to block MJ, doesn’t even know what Autism is.

[@bully.of.broad.st.3626]

The social aspects of the game and team dynamic sure...maybe some balance and coordination issues steming from sensory sensitivities, but otherwise that's it.

[@MrReese]

3:03 Naming Karl Malone when the picture shows Shaq was quite goofy 😅.

[@jonnyarnett]

Not sure why my editor chose that photo tbh. Maybe because Hakeem looked muscular on it? 🤔 lol

[@Honeybun_thrower]

Steph has a 36.5 inch vert, and calling any PROFESSIONAL athlete in any area unathletic is causal 1.1

[@lejournaldepercival]

What a beautiful free throw line dunk! Good video, recent bias s*cks. I understood recently that it is a different game now so I don't want to spit on it anymore, but it'a worst than I thought. Fortunately still got thing that I like and still love this game.

[@KamrenMCOC]

I'm only 19 but I know my knowledge is higher than the majority. I like to think I'm unbiased. But Wilt disrespect needs to stop. I'll stick up for past eras forever because that's acrual basketball. Not tween tween chuck a goofy ass step back 3

[@ManishKumar64892]

There are a lot of stupid people watching and critiquing the game.

[@kintemark1342]

Omg i been using this same exact argument when some one brings up this era vs the old school era for a few years now 😂

[@mc80466]

I appreciate that ending. These are the best basketball players in the world - they're amazing at basketball. Same for the best basketball players in the world 10, 20, 30, etc. years go. Yes the rules and strategies have changed, but the ball, hoop, court, number of players, and basic gameplay (dribbling, passing, shooting, etc.) haven't.

[@Abdul95Rachman]

Many young people said Jokic is the GOAT center because he can destroy Gobert. 🙄 Don't get me wrong, I like Jokic. But making Gobert as GOAT standard is absurd. They also claim Draymond is the GOAT defender. How can he guard a guy like Shaq ? he doesn't even look strong enough to guard a young D-Rose. 🙄

[@sergioa.9695]

Jokic would be great in any era, obviously there is basically no true great center today so he's dominating to insane levels. I'm not a fan of Draymond at all but he's a great defender and he's pretty strong, he's perfect for this era but of course he couldn't guard Shaq or any true great big.

[@Abdul95Rachman]

@@sergioa.9695 there was an era when the center had to be a rim protector, or he would be trash.

[@dwightburns6699]

Great job 👏

[@dalton7726]

Wilt chamberlain was playing 49 mpg for 82 games averaging 50 touching the top of the backboard and never injured, wearing chuck taylors. lol

[@elpedromoin]

I like the idea of the video pretty much, just to clear, Blocking has more to do with timing on the defensive player than the lack of skill of the ofensive player, and probably curry would be benched to oblivion if he chugged more than 3 threes in a row, in the 80/90s there where some lethal snipers but they got a limited amounts of shots per game

[@aaronmbaye6498]

Now imagine if Michael Jordan with all the technology and health care results we have today, MJ would have had a 50+ inch vertical leap, here me out 😤👌🏾!

[@anthonystevens5294]

It's not just gen z older people be saying that goofy stuff too

[@TT-rt5by]

Great video

[@Honeybun_thrower]

Jimmy, your a great KZbinr with excellent takes, but trying to make fun of another era because your fantasy of the 90s was hurt is sad

[@Livinlegend26]

That's wild because he did a video rating the decades of basketball and the 90's wasn't his number 1. It was the 2000s

[@KingKlose82]

Highest IQ Basketball content on youtube ✊🏽

[@skolcole]

I wanna see a game between the dream team of the 60's and the dream team of the 2020's using refs and rules from 1990. I wonder how many blatant travels would be called and how flopping wouldn't work 95% of the time.

[@luckystarsan8798]

There have been 2 plumber/firemen in NBA history (to my knowledge): A plumber, Normie Glick (1949-1950) And a fireman, Tim James (1999-2002) So according to this, LeBron James (1 year off from Tim James) was closer to playing against plumbers and firemen than Wilt Chamberlain (9 years off from Normie Glick)

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

Look, I never agreed with that talking shit about 90s and prior to that, because I'm one of rare fans who actually like every era of basketball and for me there isn't perfect era in basketball, every era has it's weaknesses. Of course people who diss this era are toxic, but honestly I think that you're focusing only on them and not critisizing nearly enough people who say that this league is joke and that Michael Jordan would average 40-45 points per game in this era because altough he is my favourite NBA player, I don't agree with that. If that was the case, I'm curious to know why Kobe since 2010 never had a season with 30+ points, in 2013 when he played onw of the best seasons of his career he averaged only 27 points per game. In 2000s he averaged 35,4 points in one of the lowest scoring seasons ever and 31,6 points next season. If you are trying to tell me that Kobe wasn't in his prime after 2010 ok, fine. How about Lebron?? Lebron James who averaged 31,4 points in his 3rd season in the league and guess which season it was?? It was 2006 season. Than in 2008 he even won scoring title while averaging 30 points per game. And in 2010s when he was at peak of his career, he never averaged even 28 points per game soo nobody is scoring 40 points in todays NBA. That's just disrespect for players like KD who is by many people the most gifted scorer of all time, that's disrespect to Lebron, Luka, Embiid, Jokic, KYRIE... That's disrespect to all of these players.

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

Correction: Michael Jordan is nit my favourite player, I just think he is the GOAT for now*

[@ThaGoatCSG]

Steph’s brother in law Damian Lee isnt nepo he played a few years in the g league b4 getting signed and he still has a roster spot post golden state

[@Cannon4545]

Upvoted before even watching. Hilarious. Wish you'd talked about PED use though.

[@TheeKing7]

I'm more of a modern day fan but I can definitely admit people be dragging it. Saying that MJ shot would easily be blocked is insane. MJ pulled it back in mid-air thanks to those big ass hands to literally dodge the block then shot it. That's superhuman to do in real time. Slow motion makes it look easier to block than it is. People need to think critically or at all LoL

[@fel4822]

Get em Jonny 💪🏿 the best players are not of one era...they usually are the players of the past then better players get in as time goes You do have to admit that some regular players could be great in past... situations Enjoyed this alot

[@trevorhoyt2524]

I'm 26, and it bothers me so much to hear people my age or younger crap on the older eras. It honestly shows a lack of knowledge of the game. People dont understand pace is up significantly from the 90-00s, which inflates nearly every stat in comparison. Kids nowadays just look at the box score and compare thinking it's a 1 to 1 comparison, and it's infuriating. Not to mention how tf they put LeBron at #7 and AD at #13 when LeBron doesn't play defense and AD is arguably the best defender in the league. It's all about box score stats in this new league with not a care about defense.