Grandmaster Zerg Gets Salty Against Mass Ghosts - Ghosts to GM

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[@nullpointer57]

No idea when or why I started watching SC2 content. Never played. But the funny optimistic commentary is pure gold.

[@executor31]

Havent played SC 2 for 10 years , was very big into korean tournaments watch on gomtv etc. I started rewatching cause uthermal is entertaining

[@skullaveraz]

Same here lol. I have to google terms he uses now and then

[@yoma2977]

lol i think its crazy that theres loads of people who dont even play SC2 watching this channel. I just found him but I haven't really played any SC2 since like 10 years ago lol

[@atamisk21]

Same here, I think I just enjoy when people get salty! Haha

[@mrmoon5682]

same haha, i only played campain before

[@lefm_]

I would love to see a battlecruiser challenge. I find so hard to use it effectively beyond TvT or early game TvZ.

[@ilp110381]

YES, ME TOO!!!

[@maxchristopherson9909]

Pure BC marauder would be a great one I think

[@guangdali6460]

@@maxchristopherson9909 how you gonna get le gas tho. BCs are omega gas heavy.

[@maxchristopherson9909]

@@guangdali6460 marauders are really gas light, so they can defend early while he mass expands and gets the gas he needs. If he can pull it off with ghosts, I'm sure he could pull it off with BC

[@edgardo400zx]

woudnt it get boring though? I mean it takes so long to get a single bc out and from there its pretty much attack teleport back home when almost dead and repeat which is not anything new

[@ikesau]

this series is single-handedly getting me watching SC content again. I'd love to see some Protoss challenges!

[@zes7215]

wrrr

[@evan-uk6iv]

I watch your episodes every day before work. Your wholesome and intellectual content has replaced like more than half of all the other shows I used to watch. Keep being awesome. Your positivity honestly is becoming a nice influence on my life.

[@sebytro]

Same here! I've been watching his vids for his witty and detailed commentary while playing really pro games. Really makes my day!

[@朕是神]

35:25 imagine if you got off a EMP while the nuke is in midair. Half the stalkers would've died.

[@codyheiner3636]

That's a great tip! Could also do it on pylons/batteries for a better chance of one-shotting them.

[@lildiscostu]

Dumb question: in broodwar u would first emp a nexus with a science vessel then nuke it for oneshotting. Why is that not done in sc2, where both spells are on the same unit?

[@derflopdrachi8454]

@@lildiscostu A Nexus has 1000HP and 1000Shield. 1 EMP deals 100 damage to shields and costs 75 Energy, 1 Nuke does 500 damage against buildings. So you would need 10 EMPs and 2 Nukes. 1 Ghost can have a 200 energy so 2 EMPs per Ghost which means that you need 5 Ghosts and 2 Nukes which is pretty expansive(resources and energy).

[@lildiscostu]

@@derflopdrachi8454 thx, i dont play sc2 and didnt know that

[@ClearAlera]

In Broodwar, EMP takes all shields down to 0. In SC2, EMP only removes 100 shields. Also a nuke in SC2 isn't enough to take down a nexus even without its shields

[@Scawtsauce]

I like they literally only build the worst unit arguably against ghosts like hydras and then say "what can I do"

[@aneubeck4053]

26:25 to see how absolutely shocked he was at the resources lost haha.

[@TheIgrac]

I would like to see something involving mines. Ghost + mines + nukes for example. That would be the most salty challenge ever. So the point is for challenge to be entertaining, it doesn't have to be difficult. But anyway, keep up the good work!

[@mrlolzalot4146]

26:30 That reaction tho hahaha When you're so good, you surprise yourself xD

[@kerwinbren]

i play sc2 for the story... i dont have the skills to play multiplayer... i just found out your vids this week only.. so enjoyable to watch... and you explaining as you play is so enjoyable.. keep it up good sir

[@JFox4587]

Is anyone else shocked that you can get a ghost academy with just a barracks?! That tech tree is nuts dude

[@luckylarry71]

MadFrog is an odlschool WC3 ex UD pro, back from the early 2000's. He switched to SC2 for a time, along with OGs like ToD, Happy, Grubby, etc. If that really was him (unlikely), then you've just set a new efficiency record and wiped the floor with an absolute legend, at the same time 👏👏👏

[@daviderwin1204]

The ultimate protos challenge is pure sentry. There's nothing like force-fielding in an army and tickling it down....

[@kjmiklautsch]

fwiw, what I like most out of your challenge content is watching how your strategy evolves; how you refine timing and orders, and how you learn how many you need of each unit to accomplish any given in-game objective. You say that your commentary would not be as strong playing your weakest role of Zerg, but watching seeing your skills evolve with a new race through the filter of a challenge would be really entertaining. Regardless, perhaps try a strategy that is not so focused around a strict unit composition, but instead try a challenge around a proxy cheese of some kind? One more flexible in its build order but restrictive in your early game objectives. keep up the great content, cheers

[@blargminton]

the reason ghost to grandmaster has been such a success is because of how unique ghosts are. they can hit ground, they can hit air, and they have alot of abilities for utility. the only other comparable units that come to mind are a few starcraft 1 units and, well, ravens which you already have a series for so even if you branch out to other races you need to recognize that they are unlikely to be as successful to avoid getting disheartened. that said interesting ideas i have for series is any skytoss spam, mutilisk spam, dark templar rush, or 'gold rush' where you play otherwise normally but you always expand into a gold mineral base first if the map has one

[@davidpage7900]

Good points. Personally, despite seeing about 10 ghosts episodes, I cannnot get enough! So if an excuse to continue the ghosts series comes along, I'm all in!

[@gerkahn8179]

It is a legit strat against zerg. They Are too strong, too fast and too cheap. Banes are Not a Counter to them - you need 7 to kill one.

[@Tomoyo0827]

Ghost needs a nerf fast. but i guess no one at Blizzard care about SC2 anymore let alone the balance of the game.

[@blargminton]

@@Tomoyo0827 outside of late game tvz and the occasional single ghost utility option in tvp ghost go pretty much unused in conventional StarCraft 2 games, so I'm not sure a nerf is needed

[@gerkahn8179]

@@blargminton so, it is ok to let terran have a major advantage in lategame?

[@mastaflex30]

Last nuke is the reason we all follow this serie with passion.

[@almightyderpy]

dude is macroing like a god and commentating casualy like what is this skil lol

[@LitheInLitotes]

He's smurfing

[@Malakai2004]

Big balls to GM: tempest, archon, disruptor, Oracle, sentry

[@heyrea]

I can feel the carpal tunnel kicking in already, just thinking about it Xp

[@RD-rm6qm]

Do air Terran to GM next please :)

[@mattf2436]

Hey uThermal. Absolutely LOVING the shows you've been running lately. Super entertaining. I don't know if you'd be keen on collab stuff, but it would be great to see a two vs two show with you and my other favorite content creator Harstem. Would be a lot of fun to see you guys terrorize the 2v2 ladder with dumb builds and fun commentary. Please let us know if it could happen.

[@Hylebos75]

I immediately thought of Harstem too upon discovering uThermals' content

[@colemortensen3384]

Let's keep Ghost to GM going! It's so satisfying watching these fat nukes hit. Thanks for the awesome content!

[@brotoss9687]

imagine insulting a person with 'get a life' cliche without knowing that he is doing that for a living lmfao.

[@brotoss9687]

i mean im 3.5k mmr diamond2 toss who extemely ez to smurf, even 4.5k players smurf me time to time, even i dont understand whats the big deal?? mfer just hit the play button again and move on.. its not like you are the ceo of coca cola you got plenty of time its just 1 of 187 game you play in one day. little men with big egos rofl.

[@fpSmoker]

Everything is so much better when you sprinkle a little salt on top

[@krunkcleanup2949]

The best thing about that last nuke was that it killed the observer :D

[@tamanousJP]

Ghost penguin vs Protoss would be a nice adaptation

[@IronPickle420]

I prefer you having a super high skill ceiling on Terran, it enables you to pull off these wild builds. I'd love to see cyclone mine or something silly like only spellcasters.

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

@Thegame .Dev So is snipe. All caster challenge confirmed

[@boopbooperson1654]

"What am I supposed to do" the zerg asks. Hive tech Is unlocked by infestation pit

[@burtreynoldz6308]

This is the first uthermal video I have seen where he doesn't win or lose the match in 6 minutes.

[@thedankonionmaster7873]

Haven't played SC2 since before the Zerg expansion came out, but for some reason I keep watching

[@xjezzakai324]

Hi! New Member here, I think it would be fun to see a Drop to GM challenge, cannot attack directly, only drops and defense.

[@aierce]

Not a challenge though, just a legitimate build

[@rainermusikgenuss]

ahoi, love your playstyle n games , very funny - your skill still amaze me - like first game here , very impressive - blowup so many banes to PFs n then mass ghost comes in play - also what u make happen with raven / hellion is incredible =)

[@Laborejo]

Protoss Challenge: Hallucinations to GM :)

[@Laborejo]

for april fools day

[@danielbrannon8371]

If you're going to do protoss, you have to do a dark templar challenge. Whether it be rushing DTs into Archon drop is unknown but you have to do DTs.

[@ferallhamster970]

It’s not a challenge if the unit is broken lol

[@infantiltinferno]

@@ferallhamster970 It's kinda beautiful that, 25 years down the line, people are still pissed at DTs for being imba.

[@Clusimon10121]

Oh my I cant wait for the MineCyclone challenge. Gonna be so much fun sheeshh

[@nickcole6682]

Hey! I am Zerg player and really like your content. I noticed players seem to get upset in general playing against Ghosts, and that this is not specific to you. What do you think Zerg should do against Ghost based late game? Is there an efficient answer? Would love to hear an expert Terran like yourself comment on that.

[@ChrisTaylor73]

I don't mind episodes where you lose, for me it's all about the small victories where you're stoked on a really good trade even if you lose the overall match.

[@lilkoolaidbro]

Love your videos uThermal! This isn't much, but wanted to thank you for all the great content!

[@uThermal]

That's a lot mate! Thank you so much :D

[@saeidyazdani]

What a champ

[@contemplate1789]

A bit sad and surprised that so high MMR players make such ridiculous comments. Playing ghost only and being successful requires much more skills than regular builds!

[@stc2828]

The funny thing is angry message like this literary feels like praise

[@spacefarers6960]

"Wow so much skill" Exactly

[@gerkahn8179]

Ghosts Are super ez to use. Especially against zerg

[@AntonioLopez-kw3ev]

@@gerkahn8179not anymore they’re not nerfed cuz of cry baby Protoss and Zerg players

[@TheEvergreeni]

Talking about highlights, you should make a highlight video of all the best moments over all the challenges at the end of the year. You know to celebrate them and how your channel has grown in 2022.

[@Telorchid]

The ‘boring style’ criticism is always interesting to me. ‘Unless you make it interesting to me, I don’t want to play.’ Does that go both ways? Must each player be fully entertained at every point in the game? 🤡

[@kimgliese2266]

Great fun content 🤗 Could you perhaps include the scoring screen after each battle to see the mmr point?

[@uThermal]

I include the MMR won/lost at the end ^^

[@f0cus2021SOT]

I don't play this game, and I understand like 70% max of whats going on but this guy is a great entertainer. Subscribed.

[@nousername2932]

Love that you leave the chatlogs... it's so much more hilarious!!

[@tallformyage]

Don’t stop the ghost challenge it is so fun! You should update the challenge: ghost/tank to rank 1! Let’s go!

[@michaelswain868]

If you are doing a Protoss challenge you should do... GATEWAY UNITS TO GM... so you can mix and match like glaived adepts, mass blink stalkers and maybe also allow yourself access to high templars and archons as to do GATEWAY ONLY UNITS you will have to build a templars archive ... Obviously, this has a lot of permutations from the macro style, 2-3 base all ins or those kinds of maxpax builds and other proxys... You could handicap yourself by limiting stargate...perhaps only use small supply to get 1-2 oracles, or a phoenix or something just for vision and scouting... allowing yourself some support units from robos like sentries, warp prison and observers can give you more build variety and also allow you some kind of a mid-late game army. I also think the warp prison will give you maybe some ideas to play protoss in that terran bio drop force kind of way. Whatever you do please don't do carriers only to GM or canon rush to GM... I'll cry myself to sleep.

[@drackuscolchicous598]

What about a once a week challenge for your off races? I would love to see you do some weird zerg comps.

[@Necroneer]

That first game was amazing, totally thought you were gonna die when there were lings everywhere on your bases. 35:29 NO FUCKING WAY

[@BaufenBeast]

Honestly a premature gg, the Protoss player was only slightly behind.

[@thenonsequitur]

@@BaufenBeast Perhaps only slightly behind on paper, but mentally broken after that nuke.

[@m.lebedev1493]

I love that you play the most micro intensive unit in the game (at least for T) and he still questions your skill XD Like what are you supposed to do to prove your mettle ? Juggle 6 medivacs in 5 different bases plus 1 for the main fight, all while nuking his army from 2 angles and microing reapers grenades in the late game ?

[@LeDlejt]

I feel like drops with emp on the probe line would be really effective. Wouldn't they one-shot a probe after the emp? If not going for a quick plus one on weapons would ensure it. In that style you could maybe really starve out the protoss. Keep him active defending the drops while you drop a nuke on the front wall or something in that vein.

[@edouglasroche]

Yeah that is something I have been thinking about for Protoss as well. Have to be careful because that is an expensive drop but could clear a mineral line really fast that way.

[@hm09235nd]

He did that

[@ramil8029]

To be honest, I wouldn't want any Protoss challenges on this channel. I love your Terran play, but for Protoss, we already have Harstem pushing out lots of content. So, I would much rather prefer just watching top notch Terran play here than a second tier Protoss. Hope this makes sense.

[@朕是神]

Totally different when someone goof around for a couple games and someone playing a whole series and learning the build through 50 games. Remember the first few games on ghost to GM? It was mostly just the novelty that made it fun, but uThermal's pulling off miracles every other game now. Same with the ravens, first few game was just "yolo turrets" and hoping for the best, now it's "turrets lol" and knowing exactly how strong they are.

[@LOTSL]

know anyone that does zerg challenges?

[@adamhrin9866]

@@LOTSL would like to know as well ^^

[@topplopp9751]

Would love seeing thermy play protoss. I like his style of commentary while playing.

[@zachjones7745]

For personal growth I would insist on playing other races in addition to the terran... Harstem doesn't compare... his speed is slower.....

[@火花-i9n]

I honestly think I would like a protoss or zerg challenge. It doesnt matter that much to me if thermy isnt as good as he would be compared to top protosses. I still like his playstyle and commentary either way.

[@faithful451]

I'd much rather have zerg than protoss challenges :) I find protoss kinda boring to watch tbh. I feel the flexibility for fun builds is much higher with the other races

[@RoyalFusilier]

I still absolutely adore Ghosts to Grandmaster, and you're right that TvZ is when the challenge really shines. These were some top-class thrilling games, the few covert elites bringing in heavy firepower and surgical strikes to stop the unending tide of the swarm and all that. Perhaps at some point if you wanted to rotate or change things up, the way to do it would be to have a different challenge versus each race? Ghosts for Zerg, and... I don't know what the others would be, I just watch good players on KZbin. Something to consider though.

[@wavemancer]

Keep the ghost challenge alive! grind it out! you can do it!

[@Jhorsma]

If possible, air terran sounds fun challenge but I have one question if you have time uThermal, do you ever get planetary fortress upgrade in this challenges?

[@augustuswilhelm907]

I think it has to be something with outplay possibility. Abilitys are fun aswell. It has to be a combination that can hit ground and air. and is has to be available early on. And it should a kinda stupid unit combination: Adept+HT or Phoenix+oracle

[@AndrewGunner]

FIRSTTTT

[@austecon6818]

As an ex masters level zerg this caused me emotional damage... seeing all of those banelings die and the PFs all still staying up

[@FlawlesSanshiro]

Everytime now I watch these ghost challenges i am trying to think of a way to chain nukes.. Marc, watching all these pfs popping up.. Would a mass static terran be any fun? Pfs bunkers towers and lots and lots of scvs 🤪

[@Panqueque-Tiramisu]

Protoss and zerg challenge would be amazing, but I'm still waiting for ciclone + mine. Or something about that lines. Also!! I love your content, I watch it along my meals, u make such a good company :D

[@ilp110381]

jajajaja, this last toss was so salty, I also hate smurfs but you are not, amaizing games and how you have adapted the challenge weakness, gg wo Thermy

[@zeljko7386]

In all your ghost fights till now i rarely see you target overseers or you just leave them last.. situations differ ofcourse but when zerg army hits and ghosts are cloaked, wouldn't the opponent be blind if you targeted overseers 1st and didn't have to run from bains? Just a "shower" thought. I wish this game never dies..

[@gamble9437]

Would like to see splash disruptor phoenix to GM. Lots of micro and some Big Bang moments as well. Would be fun. Templar to GM would be fun as well, dts, HT, archons maybe some tempest if you need them.

[@talscorner3696]

I always find funny how the operative wearing a skin-tight suit but using a massive rifle takes twice the space in a medivac than the soldier piloting the combat exoskeleton xD

[@geessaess1707]

For toss, how about the old school 4 gate from wings of liberty? Maybe with the additional workers at the beginning you can support 5 or 6 gates from 1 base.

[@emmanuelhoule8070]

MadFrog was a warcraft 3 undead pro, well known for going mass gargoyle everytime. Your'e welcome!

[@AngryAngelGames]

Love that the series is saved.. it's my favorite by far.

[@howzany6832]

This zerg said it... "Wtf am I supposed to do" and it is exactly how I feel as a zerg player when playing against ghosts...

[@balazsfenyes3880]

IMO disruptor hits are the protoss equivalent of ghost snipe sounds. I would love to see u playing mass disruptors. they are super micro heavy as well if you like the challenge.

[@adamrasta]

Deff would love to see your protoss if you can think of a good one ! Like mass hallucinations to GM. 😂

[@SOSolacex]

How about reaper, medivac with max 3-5 ravens only to GM? (Non-cheese) Curious to see how far you can get with some reaper focused builds whilst at the same time using the anti armour missile, which considering the reaper attacks twice should stack up extra damage.

[@Hakasnakeman212]

Please continue with the ghost series. It is too exciting to not continue

[@josefanon8504]

mines battlecruisers is what i'm very excited for. absolutely hope its gonna happen

[@Alekouzos]

ghost is the most imba unit right now.

[@topher8642]

level 0) "Archon + Templar + Prism" to GM level 1) Can build 3 gate units for cheese level 2) can build observers level 3) "+ Dark Templars" Cannons + Batteries allowed

[@destonwong2577]

No chance a zerg can beat other races without spell casters at late game

[@IvanDjuric300]

The sound of snipes is soo good

[@loudaccord]

Zerg series please... Infester to GM!

[@Dragelol]

My Life For Aiur; Only zealots / minerals until you have 3+ bases and 7+ gates before you start adding gas but you stay zealots with legs and upgrades!

[@protossimba5017]

I’d like to see a series involving speed banshees in some way or another

[@ajohnson9630]

I've watched a few of these, but I'm not sure what to do with it. Grinding MMR with seemingly no progression doesn't seem like fun to me. I like the idea of different and weird builds, but there really isn't any content involved. The only progression seems to be an arbitrary title and the reward is to still play exactly the same game. The narrative just isn't there for me.

[@ajohnson9630]

@Michael Lochlann I never said it wasn't. I said there's no narrative. The content he puts on here is more suitable for Twitch. The style is not great for KZbin. A simple solution is to just do an intro like Kripp does on his Hearthstone content to give the video a narrative. Otherwise, it's only going to appeal so a small set of people still fapping over relatively non-creative content (aren't there enough x to grandmaster series?) for an increasingly niche game.

[@itsokthen]

Phoenix seem to have a good potential for a series. Pairing it with zlots might be too strong since that's already mostly a real build lol. But being forced to stay on them could make interesting games. Other idea is phoenix immortals or phoenix oracle but those are gas intensive.

[@drxenon3864]

I’d watch pretty much anything you upload. Not a big fan of Zerg but definitely any protos or Terran play is much more fun to watch

[@cheesypuffs1342]

i can't believe you were initially a protoss player 🤣 I enjoy watching Maru, Cure, Gumiho & many KR terrans, but you inspire me to actually go play the game

[@Siege181]

uThermal, Lowko and Harstem are all such fantastic guys to listen to! Think it’s something to do with how relaxing the Dutch accent is Would love to sit in a coffee shop and just listen to all 3 of them cast on a tournament one day!

[@marlonsolis2272]

Dutch Coffe Cup 🥤 the winner gets a literal cup 😂

[@ltg8382]

Don't forget Rotti .. The SC OG. I'm not a fan of lowko myself cause of his fabricated accent, i can't listen to it 😶

[@ltg8382]

Dutch Coffee shops sells something different than Coffee btw 😛🤣

[@Siege181]

@@ltg8382 that’s the exact reason I said a coffee shop in Holland not in the UK! 🤣🤣😁😁

[@phillgizmo8934]

26:25 That's the best moment of the series, noticing the record high efficiency. Bravo maestro!

[@kindlin]

I saw the look on his face long before I realized what he was looking at. I rewound that moment at least 5 times.

[@Sam_Hyde_Apologist]

yeah so impressive the terran player did 3 actions and the game did the rest for him truly the "highest skill race"

[@kindlin]

@@Sam_Hyde_Apologist What does that even mean? I see some more salt has been mined this day.

[@Sam_Hyde_Apologist]

@@kindlin son I stopped playing this shit game years ago. And my comment means exactly what it said, Terran is EZ mode. they're suppose to be the "micro race" but every Terran I saw just went macro (did it very poorly too) and spammed the T key with MMM or spammed mech and BC and got free wins. incredibly safe race to play since it almost impossible to punish them. plus they are suppose to be the aggressors in the match ups so if they fail its ok but if they do too much damage they win, ball is always in their court. I know this because as soon as I played terran i won so many games with half the effort, I could play like dogshit but terrans bullshit units, defense and eco would carry me through superior opponents.

[@kindlin]

@@Sam_Hyde_Apologist So much hot salt, if I added some thorium we'd get a nuclear reactor out of it, fast.

[@s4if]

Long Live Ghost2GM!

[@Yorgh_Drakeblood]

My favorite thing when playing Brood War as a kid was using Protoss to mind control a Terran and Zerg worker unit in order to build anything. Is that possible in SC2? That would be an awesome bot challenge ❤

[@megapyro88]

I know this is late but yes it is. But actually zerg has the mind control unit in sc2. Harstem actually did an episode of him trying to beat somebody after mind controlling a worker but i think he lost every game.

[@Yorgh_Drakeblood]

@@megapyro88 awesome! I’m glad it’s still possible. For casual play it’s hilarious, probably not so effective against good players

[@phillgizmo8934]

Oh that salt, it comes from a self pity and a self pity decides that you are gonna cry instead of think/solve the problem. You can never be sure you know everything and can react to anything from the first time you encounter it. We tend to get too comfortable cruising instead of to get hungry at new challenges. You learn much more from loosing than winning.

[@idothings6685]

I don't understand this game at all but I still like watching...

[@fongelias]

ghost first in tvz seems like a legit build- as long as you make other units with them over time

[@johnathanbalthasar3862]

Protoss and Terran 2v2 crabs! 🦀. Widow mines, stalkers, colossus

[@filosofiadetalhista]

The second game was a master piece. The PF, the turrets, the splits, the Medivac micro!

[@theunboxinggod5680]

seeing that "fuk off " msg was so satisfying LOL

[@youtousim]

Love the challenge. Would like to see a few supporting units allowed, though. Like a raven or two, with the bulk still being some jank unit.

[@stixinst5791]

Scv only?

[@lional4898]

I feel like gosts to gm is OP against zerg, but against others it's time to use at least phase 2

[@momchilandonov]

[red]Nada was the highest paid video game player in the world with an annual salary of $500k btw.

[@Arctyr]

Love episodes with salt. Great episode