V4 Upgrade | Tesla To TRANSFORM The EV Charging Market!

[@petere8129]

Dave, I do appreciate what you’re doing here on this channel but you’re better than this. When you first started this channel you gave us very informative information. Recently you’ve been very repetitive and also very Tesla focused I appreciate that’s the make of EV that you’ve got but a lot of us have got other manufacturers EV‘s and sometimes it feels like you’re belittling the rest of us. Carry on with what you’re doing, but there’s no need for a 30 minute monologue or a daily KZbin video. I like many don’t want you to stop or take this personally just have a reflect on what you were doing originally to what you’re doing now.

[@stevenjones916]

He makes his point @18:20

[@Yorkshire-z5v]

Thank you. 🙏

[@bashukirtaniya581]

I love how you broke down the XAI33x project in your video! Can’t wait to see it soar!

[@brijeshsaroj3487]

The potential of XAI33x is unreal! Excited to see where this goes after watching your video!

[@davidilm3752]

Dave. I am a long time viewer but please can you get to the point much more quickly. You are starting to repeat points many times and taking far too long to get to the main point of the video. Otherwise keep up the good work

[@capnkirk5528]

@@wotireckon I actually DID know (relatively) a fair amount about charging and I still found this useful. Yeah, a timestamp might benefit the 1% of people who are using this channel to get the same update that is available elsewhere if you know where to look but for which you have to monitor feeds.

[@DJBaldPaul]

KZbin algorithms prioritise longer videos because they can stuff more ads in them, it also means Dave earns more money.

[@commuterbranchline8132]

Why use one word when you can twenty seven instead?

[@davec1768]

@@davidilm3752 Dave's an ex-salesman so there's no chance of him speeding up until his sales pitch is finished. 🤣😂 And like all good salesmen he's kissed the Blarney Stone on a number of occasions.🤣

[@DrDave_63395]

I’ve taken to watching at 2x to get through to the key point(s) Dave it making

[@CR_PRATHAM_GAMING]

Bought XAI33x after watching your video, super excited!

[@Tiwari000-b4v]

Bought XAI33x after watching your video, super excited! 💰

[@robertarmstrong3478]

Since you (probably) have viewers outside the UK (and the other countries that drive on the correct side of the road) the charge port is on the rear left quarter, not the 'passenger side'. Keep up the good work!

[@mikebreen2890]

The left side is the correct side.

[@jameschapman4824]

As I always say to my American friends. You drive on the right side of the road but we drive on the correct side. LOL

[@oliver90owner]

Give Dave a break. This is a UK youtube channel. If you live in some other part of the world, your conditions may be different. ‘When in Rome, do as the Romans do’ comes to mind.

[@jolive3743]

it derived from being attacked on a carriage. If someone tries to remove you from your vehicle today to take it, you will be leading with your left hand....good luck with that

[@chrisp7839]

@@robertarmstrong3478 Front centre is the correct place. It’s irrelevant what side of the road you drive.

[@steve270659]

Very informative, thank you.

[@andrewharland7727]

Cut to the chase. Getting bored before you reach the point.

[@radioone3447]

Not boring for those of us who enjoy the story 😊

[@Cubacharlie14]

Right on the spot mate. Don't understand why Dave keeps repeating the same which makes the video painful to watch. 🤭🫣🤔

[@sentyuk5322]

Gave up after 3 mins… bored. Same Tesla love fest that the last one was. EV’s do this, EV’s have that… erm, nope… your Tesla does. Please stop cooing about them as if they are the only ones and if you’re going to compare ICE vs EV, please do so as it’s very different to ICE vs Tesla.

[@stevenjones916]

The point of the video arrives @18:20

[@mjcamp01]

​@@stevenjones916hero!!!

[@timoliver8940]

I’m in the UK and I don’t own a Tesla but my EV just plugs in and charges - it’s called Plug and Charge. You really need to get out of that Tesla and try some other equally good EVs Dave

[@oliver90owner]

Why? Nothing better for him than the Tesla supercharger network! That was the topic of discussion in this video, not what car YOU might be driving.

[@therealgraeme]

Fully agree. He should really rename his channel to "Tesla fanboy". 🙄

[@fox3shooter]

Good, let’s hope you lose all access to the V2 sites. Bored of fools in stupid cars with ports in dumb locations and having max 100kwh charging blocking 2 bays. If Tesla shut the OTA V2’s I will wet myself laughing.

[@therealgraeme]

@@fox3shooter Tesla supercharger pricing is nice, but they are [most often] located in very stupid locations - often without shops or toilets nearby. eg: car dealerships, hotel parking lots etc. No thanks - I'd rather stop elsewhere, where it is more convenient. Granted I only top up while I run to the toilet and grab a coffee. Tesla charging curves are also rediculous. They peak instantly, then drop off equally fast. My EV has a much more level charging curve - giving me max charge for longer. I can't post a URL otherwise YT blocks the post, but feel free to Google it if you want to see yourself. By 40% SOC, they are down to 140kW (from 250kW "max") and dropping.

[@ouchnotagain1971]

What sxactly is a dumb location for the chargkng port @dave,? The most sensible location is rear right, as i sit on the right in the car. So upyou could say even tesla has a dumb location

[@andrewsarchus4238]

Important news, thanks Dave. Personally, as a Tesla model Y driver I don’t really want faster charging. Why not? When I hook up to charge, the charger doubles as a place to park in a good location. Then I go into the services for a pee, a coffee and cake, a bit of shopping maybe. Or just sit and rest. 20-30 minutes later the car is charged so I drive away, after a refreshing break. What if charging is 5 minutes only? Then I can’t leave the car. Once charged I have to drive away and vacate the spot for someone else. Then I need to find a place to park - not always ideal. After parking, then I can go into the services for refreshments etc. So in the end, faster charging would make the overall services break take longer, not shorter. I have to charge then park, not just charge.

[@TheSmallRabbit]

I guess like you say if it charged in 10 mins you could end up with an overstay fine before you finished a short comfort break.

[@therealgraeme]

Fully agree, and that's exactly how I use any ultra rapid chargers too, with my car that charges at 150kW. It's far fast enough.

[@trickshotish]

Mines a MG so you order a coffee and cake and I will have time to eat it for ya 😂

[@markbennett6658]

If it’s that quick you’re back to the old ICE model where you park up in the main car park, have your pee and over priced shitty service station lunch, then go to fuel up quickly before leaving. It will be necessary with much higher EV adoption rate in the coming years to get a quicker throughput . A very quick in/out recharge as a solution will silence the naysayers some and convince those of a stronger bladder, in a hurry to get to their next business meeting that they can get there in a timely manner. Not that it is necessarily true with a bit of advance planning you should need to be in a tear arsed hurry all the time!

[@andrewsarchus4238]

@ I guess you’re right

[@lharris828]

That charger cable bending sequence has been shown ~ 1000000 times!

[@favesongslist]

Great news TY. The USA has already get a few V4 installations working a few months ago. There also 1MW chargers mainly along the Semi routes.

[@kevinoconnor2051]

This is all very well but of FAR GREATER IMPORTANCE - when are you going to sort out that background, I keep getting distracted by all the gaps between the hexagons. It's just like a Tesla's bodywork 🙂

[@mjcamp01]

😂

[@stephenclay6852]

Great news Dave as I have the Kia ev6

[@sargfowler9603]

Nice upgrade to the network!

[@andrewsarchus4238]

Subscribed - love Tesla and all EVs, great channel Dave!

[@andyhamilton]

What you will find is that the artic lorry’s which are increasingly becoming electric will start using them and taking up at least 2 bays. In Europe ionity are struggling with this. In Tebay, the northbound chargers have a large area which broken down EVs can charge on the back of a low loader. Bowburn (County Durham) has a new Tesla installation being built with the cabinets wrapped up ready to install. I’ll count how many cabinets are there as it’s still at groundwork’s level.

[@richardwalsh879]

The law will only apply to new units fitted after the implementation date: "The regulations require that all new public charge points 8kW and above deployed after 24 November 2024 and all public charge points of 50kW and above must offer contactless payment either per public charge point or per charging site, if more than one public charge point."

[@stephenbagwell8275]

@@richardwalsh879 yes there’s been no notification on the Tesla app about it changing. I’m hoping to use it on 24th November

[@edwyncorteen1527]

BUT is the second point a catch all? All Tesla superchargers are over 50kW! no mention of newly installed, whoever wrote this wants a good telling off

[@oliver90owner]

@@edwyncorteen1527 I’m guessing, here, the numpty should have inserted AC and DC (at the appropriate points) to make it clear and perfectly understandable. Likely a numpty, who knows little of the finer points of EV charging, wrote it?

[@johnbaker5533]

The law has been any new public 50kW+ chargers from 24 Nov 2023 have to have contactless and tesla (and all other CPOs) have done this. That quote is about new slower chargers 8kW or above needing contactless being installed from 24 November 2024. From 24 November 2024 all 50kW+ need to have contactless. There is some slight ambiguity about existing chargers open to all inside that period (tesla opened an additional 27 sites up about Feb 2024) as there is the one year grace. It is unclear if the Nov 2024 date overrides that year long grace period or not. Likely it does but the wording of the regs is unclear.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

​@@oliver90owner - most electrical regulations are like this, they differentiate on the basis power rather than manner of electric delivery (AC or DC). CCS2 allows for up to 94.5kW AC, although 43kW is the more common max for cars, meaning any AC charger higher than 49kWh would also be required to be upgraded for contactless. @ - Tesla have the choice to take their network private again to avoid the regulations, I wonder if they will consider this as the regulation has two other points that may cause concern - open data via a open standard API, and payment roaming (allowing charge cards or the like's of Electroverse to be used as alternative payment methods at Tesla chargers).

[@Cubacharlie14]

18 minutes of the video repeating the same fcking old story and only 8 minutes of the main topic of a 26 minute video. Dave, you're better off uploading a Short. It would be better for you and importantly for your subscribers. Just think about it.

[@UKDagnar]

Fine by me, as a Tesla owner the only time I've ever had to wait at a Supercharger station was because it was open to all EV's and the non Tesla cars were using the Superchargers in preference to the non Tesla chargers next to them. In fact the non Tesla chargers weren't being used by anyone. Speaks volumes.

[@williamlawrenson8345]

Returning home from Wales, stopped at a charging station with loads of Tesla chargers but not accessible to non Tesla, loads of space. Then at Gloucester services, only about 8 Tesla chargers, constantly in use. As Spock would say, illogical. More needed at Gloucester and open up the station with loads of under used chargers.

[@oliver90owner]

Likely due to local or site contracts. Don’t blame Tesla.

[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

I tried to use a V4 at trentham and as the post is on the wrong side it wouldn't reach. I saw another cable showing damage by being strained across the car

[@Gazer75]

A problem with the card payment is more expensive charging. In some instances remote low use sites might simply shut down. This happened here in Norway. Card terminals add cost and I believe a fee to keep them in service + a transaction fee. From what I can read between the lines in articles the CPOs seem to indicate that more remote sites could shut down because the operating expenses are to high. I guess time will tell...

[@TheSmallRabbit]

Nice haircut Dave. Looking sharp :-) Model2 and these new cabinets will be a game changer for the industry.

[@blobstrom]

I think Ioniq 5 can charge at 100-120Kw on a supercharger currently. No sure if the refresh can go a little quicker, but generally it's half of 250kW which is a V3

[@johndoyle4723]

Good for my EV6

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Hopefully so, the current Tesla chargers don't support Kia/Hyundais 800/400v architecture, seems only to charge at 100kw max. Perhaps a native 800V+ V4 will rectify this, allowing the car to charge at full rate.

[@johndoyle4723]

@@GruffSillyGoat Yes, they max out at 100Kw which is very slow. One of the excellent features of my EV6 is the charging rate, and I regularly get over 200Kw on Fastned units.

[@Jaw0lf]

I would expect that previous chargers would stay as they were and new ones must now comply. Personally having Tesla Chargers that are V2 or V3 back as Tesla only would keep all the Tesla drivers happy. I am also interested in the prospect that our existing Teslas may see a boost to charging. Having said that my Tesla M3 has told me we can continue the trip in little over 10 minutes for most of my trips requiring a charge away from home. I feel you also gave a lot of information that wasn't truly needed and the video could have been half the length and given pretty much the major information.

[@ShivGupta-ym3hd]

The hype around XAI33x is real! Thanks for the informative video!

[@richardblakey3345]

Hi Dave. I watched the whole of this video thinking you were going to say Tesla had come up with a solution to the UK change in law re chargers on 24th that would give Tesla a waiver and allow non-Tesla owners to continue to charge at the superchargers. Very important for me on my journeys from Sussex to Cornwall. Although this is interesting, it is far less astonishing news than I thought it was going to be, especially as you mention the law early in the video. This could have been a 6 minute video which I believe is the average time someone will spend watching a KZbin video. Now slightly nervous about opening the trade war video in case it also rambles on for too long. Please review your video plans as I would prefer to watch you than The Electric Viking as he is starting to irritate me for different reasons.

[@paulkearsley9509]

Whenever model 2 is launched, which will be in 10 years, by then, the chargers will have V4

[@Gazer75]

Good luck charging at full speed for long with V4 dispensers. The cable is not liquid cooled AFAIK? They already see downrating in the warmer states in the US during the summer.

[@Robotadept]

I’ve read a lot about issues with Honda E-ny1 using Tesla’s superchargers 1 saying that Honda say that only K rated chargers are compatible & Tesla’s are L rated but I can’t find any reference to this online nor in the owners manual so what is the difference between K & L rated chargers?

[@garybarham3992]

I thought from now on it was going to be “America first”😉

[@vinceohare]

😂

[@johnharcombe9412]

Tesla Model 2 should have wireless charging as well

Hi Dave, have to agree with a number of comments that this video should have been edited to be no more than 10 minutes. That said, I am not sure you have thought through your assertion that the UK will be amongst the first to get these 1,000volt upgrades; why? Well how many 800v capable Tesla’s are there in the UK (or EU, for that matter)? But there have been about 30,000 (Cybertrucks) sold in the US. Ergo, where do you think he will concentrate his 1,000 volt Supercharger deployment? I don’t think he will be doing this for the benefit of us Hyundai / Kia / Genesis / Porsche Taycan owners in the UK and EU.

[@davetakesiton]

Agree, common sense says you are right. However once Tesla launch a new product in this case the V4 cabinet they discontinue the old models. They run out the old stock then start supplying new stock. So when our UK stock is used up the next delivery should be V4. US might have much greater stocks of the old V3s to install before they run out. All down to timing

[@charlesflouvat1829]

Cash slot?

[@ziggarillo]

Never

[@scottwills4698]

I bet the next model 3 and y will have split battery packs to work at 400 and 800v (like the Cybertruck).

[@flaw3dgenius222]

I cannot see the Government stopping Tesla from letting non tesla's from using them that would be seriously anti consumer! Guess we find out on the 24th.

[@gazguzzler8294]

I'm dropping off here....

[@oliver90owner]

To fill up with more polluting fossil fuel?🙂

[@stephengreen8986]

Ev charging is still like early computers. The enthusiasts adopted it and the general public were excluded by knowledge. The screen was blank until you pressed certain keys before you could even see a screen. I home charge and there are only a few occasions when I have to use a public charger. Many supermarkets charge at 7kw like a home charger so unsurprisingly availability is virtually guaranteed. I used a pod point at Tesco, so I had to install an App, then prepay, used my own lead and then go through multiple steps to make it work. The last step confounded me so I had to ring podpoint. I had a few hours to spare so I wasn't bothered. Another EV turned up. It was a company van and the lady had no idea. I tried to help and explained that it was a slow charger. With all the barriers she had to overcome, she gave up and drove home. New adopters will want a much easier process. They don't expect to have to learn so many processes, rules and electrical facts

[@DJBaldPaul]

Agree, I made a video about this myself after coming across a couple who had been charging at a Geniepoint charger for over 4 hours!

[@TheSmallRabbit]

What we all want is a service like AppleGreen where once you have charged at a location or service your car is recognised just by plugging it in. No payment needed as long as you have registered a payment method. This is the future for me and better than contactless. Plug charge go on any car.

[@chrisp7839]

@@stephengreen8986 Plug and charge as implemented by the Fastned network is surely the answer. I fail to see why the Tesla network can’t implement it for non Teslas too.

[@prjackson7802]

Great video

[@AmritKandulna-pm5ge]

Thanks for the advice! Got XAI33x, feeling bullish! 🚀

[@stephenbagwell8275]

My EV will only charge at 50kW max but I’ll use Tesla Superchargers because of the cheap price especially with membership through the app

[@stuartgoddard4805]

Hi dave so if you have an non tesla but you have membership with telsa you will be able to use the tesla network?

[@davetakesiton]

Some of it, not all I’m afraid. But that’s still almost 1,000 chargers at present and they’re cheap

[@stuartgoddard4805]

Got a test drive tomorrow at tesla hopefully going to get some prices on supercharger as can't do it at home

[@MrJohn5791]

Did anyone notice the smoke coming from the front wheels of the model 3's & Y's during the time-lapse? What's that all about?

[@PaulCopp]

Battery charge temperature management

[@anobium2000]

Well, that was hard going! Your verbose style is getting a bit hard to put up with. As a long time viewer, I’ve lost count of the number of times you’ve explained how Tesla charging works for Tesla cars- just put a link in the comments to one of your previous explanations. If your sneering comments about other manufacturers charge port locations was supposed to be funny, it didn’t come over as that and is just condescending to the broader viewership. You have produced many interesting videos, but I find I am skipping more and more as time goes on, as there is less of interest to the non Tesla driver. If you want to become more of a Tesla channel- that’s fine. You will have a large appreciative audience, but I think you can be better than that if you broaden your outlook. Sorry for being negative, but I am trying to be constructive. At the end of the day it’s your channel and your choice in what direction you take it in.

[@ralpharmsby8040]

So as a non Tesla driver with no v4 chargers anywhere near where I live or on our holiday routes we won't be using Tesla chargers. IT IS NOT ALL GOOD NEWS!

[@ralpharmsby8040]

The Tesla app doesn't say what charger is at each station so do we have to drive to one and risk disappointment in our non Tesla?

[@foglamp1964]

so why are they still installing V3 chargers at new sites?

[@davetakesiton]

They are not, these sites installed the V3 chargers months or over a year ago and it took that long to get the power connected

[@StephenButlerOne]

I have to think the cars that are compatible with the Tesla plug and charge will be fine. As they are just the same in the way they interact with the car and the super charger, as a Tesla car and the super charger But hopefully for all, the government let the old chargers slide, as long a Tesla has pledged that all future chargers are compatible with the new law.

[@oliver90owner]

Tesla has no choice with all new installs open to all. That has been in force for some time.

[@pauls4708]

Off Topic Dave.What were your reasons for choosing the S?. I am looking at a 3 long range,but the Local Tesla centre has a slightly older demo S for sale as well.Always been interested in the S.They are no longer available as you know RHD not made anymore.

[@davetakesiton]

Air suspension, more internal space, longer range, much quieter, more powerful, much bigger boot and in my case I got the 7 seater version.

[@djtaylorutube]

*sets playback speed to X2*

[@darville7521]

Dave, you got my attention ( again ! ). I have a KIA EV 9, which is not quite 800 V, though early publicity made that claim. Upgrading the V4 chargers is great news, because of the poor charging speeds you refer to with the current Tesla chargers and cars with higher than 400 V architecture. It potentially vastly increases potential charging locations for me. It will be interesting to see how these V4 chargers are denoted on the app for route planning and what the pricing will be, as Tesla have been very competitive.

[@DJBaldPaul]

It feels like it's all going to get very confusing for non-Tesla owners running at 800V as you'll have no idea what kind of charge speed you'll get as there are too many variables at play. It will require meticulous planning to ensure you charge at an upgraded supercharger if you want to avoid a slow charge. That means trying to figure out from Tesla which chargers have been upgraded, which ones haven't, and also when a charger on your route is due to be upgraded so you can plan to use it or not. It sounds like a nightmare to me, ideally you just want to plug in and charge and not have to worry about all this. The Tesla in car navigation system should provide all this info in real-time, but not sure how non-Teslas will access this info.

[@marktyers69]

You are completely wrong about the Taycan. I have one (base model 2023) and when I plug it into any Tesla Supercharger I get at least 100KW. According to physics (I have a degree in Electrical Engineering),If you double the voltage and halve the current IVY WATTS tells you you get exactly the same power!

[@johnbaker5533]

It is unlikely they will be upgrading the cabinets any time soon. The V4 have much increased power 1.2MW is implied for the 8 stalls. Compared to the V3 cab 360-380mW for 4 stalls.

[@davestarkie2794]

I like your channel Dave but the little digs at anyone who owns a different EV to Tesla is a tad disappointing. I thought you were pro EV? Anyway on a different note seen SSE are mid installing new chargers next to Greggs off Turton Street in Bolton. Never seen their chargers before.

[@davetakesiton]

Sorry Dave if it comes across that way with digs, it’s not meant. I’ll keep an eye on that, also thanks for heads up on SSE there’s more happening than most people are aware

[@GruffSillyGoat]

The rollout of these newer chargers at 500-625kWh will be highly site specific, depending whether the site has the grid capacity available or the sufficient land to fit grid buffer batteries for an average day's worth of cars charging. A 'ultra high power' configuration of the new chargers, charging a car at over 350kWh, would more likely appear on major road arteries, at services and the like, to compete with the 350kW transit chargers rather than at local sites. It will be interesting if Tesla price differentiate the higher power chargers when charging above 350kWh. Although, the most likely 'high power' configuration will be dual bay, with each charger servicing two connection devices (dispensers) at 250kWh each. Given Dave's observation on the annoyance of slower charging Mini's taking up more powerful 400v V3/V4 bays, will there be similar points of view with slower 400v cars (including Tesla's) occupying 800v bays.

[@davec1768]

If chargers are not available to the public then they shouldn't have obtained any grants from the UK government.

[@antwnpowell]

or any grants from the EU.

[@oliver90owner]

I don’t expect they did? Do you? More chargers is what everyone (with any common sense) wants. That will include all new Tesla chargers as well as those on other networks, that cost much more per kWh delivered.

[@davec1768]

@oliver90owner I believe they did and in my opinion if their chargers are only available for Tesla cars, they shouldn't have got anything. Grants should only be given to facilities which serve all electric cars with a UK/EU standard plug. If you want manufacturer only facilities then the manufacturer or vehicle owners should pay for them.

[@johnbaker5533]

@@davec1768 All Tesla charger have the UK/EU standard plug. The CCS2. Why do you think they do not? They never got any money for these old sites that they opened to all, on pleading of the government. They do pay for all their own equipment anyway. AFAIK no new ones ever got any government money in the UK. There are some EU funded ones in the EU but they are open to all just like all other charging networks.

[@davec1768]

@johnbaker5533 The V3 and V4 chargers have CCS2 plugs. However, the earlier charging stations only had the Tesla plugs, re one of Dave's earlier videos. Only the V4 is truly available to all and I have seen posts that Tesla did receive grants for charging stations. More charging stations are a good thing only if they are available to everyone. If you want private stations open to only Tesla, then you should pay for them and shouldn't expect everyone else to pay for them. We shouldn't have "two-tier" charging stations.

[@rayjones9231]

Hope that open to all V2 & V3 chargers will be Tesla only.

[@williamlawrenson8345]

Why?

[@oliver90owner]

Nooo! Let’s have more and more Tesla superchargers. They are the best, out there. The other alternative will only encourage the other charging networks to charge more - which nobody in their right mind would want.

[@rayjones9231]

@@williamlawrenson8345 because having bought a Tesla I have helped finance the Supercharger network & I don’t want to have to queue because a non Tesla is blocking two charging bays. Simple!

[@gunnarparment5050]

Thanks for your god work. You just made a minor slip of your tongue. You once said that every Tesla has the charge port on the passenger side, but later, you said, correctly, that the charge port is on the left side. This is excusable since you are British. 🙂 Have a nice day.

[@DanielJones-c1i]

So as a non Tesla driver who has a Tesla membership and who charges from v2 v3 v3 sites, it will be illegal for me to do so at a v2 v3 site soon? What the fooooook.

[@ziggarillo]

No

[@PeterEvans-k7v]

Still wont be any use in N I as Tesla only supply Belfast

[@gadget231]

Why don't you just change the name of your channel to "Dave Tesla's On" and have done with it? Petty little digs at other EV manufacturers for having their charge ports in "ridiculous" places are just unnecessary. Did all ICE cars have to have their filling ports in the same place to use the pumps? Why should EV's need to have the power in a specific place just to suit one manufacturer and one charging network? Unsubscribing until the channel becomes a bit less Tesla biased and a bit more tolerant of other EV manufacturers... Aren't we all striving towards the same end goal of transitioning towards ALL EV's are accepted. Seems stupid to put all your eggs in one basket.

[@lewismacdonald1047]

Charge port at the front isn't ridiculous if you are towing. At least you can go front in to the charger and reverse out. Unless it's a 'drive-through' location, if you have the charge port at the back you have to un-hitch the trailer (and hope the trailer can be left somewhere safe/secure), charge and then re-hitch the trailer, if it is still where you left it.

[@timoliver8940]

I bet he’s cheesed off that somebody else has the “Just get a Tesla” channel…………… which even as a nonTesla EV owner is much more interesting than Tesla Dave Waffles On

[@oliver90owner]

Driving in forwards, to charge was/is a silly, even dangerous compromise. Reverse in and make your first move, after charging, a safe one. Reversing into traffic is either a danger or a nuisance to other drivers.

[@lewismacdonald1047]

@@oliver90owner If you reverse in with a trailer though you'll need one heck of a long lead. :) Anyway, everyone knows Teslas can't crash whether going forwards, reverse, skidding sideways, etc ;)

[@oliver90owner]

@@lewismacdonald1047 Maybe not, but it often takes two to make a collision. Just heard, this afternoon, of a car being impounded for over a month after a crash. Car was overtaking another, that pulled into same lane from the left (most certainly without looking!), causing the collision between the two cars. Other car apparently changed lanes and caused the collision while ‘attempting’ to avoid pedestrians. One, or more,of those pedestrians was/were then hit by that car. No fault of the over-taking driver (no idea about the other driver or pedestrians) but both cars impounded. My point is that a driver should be looking in the direction of travel BEFORE making a move. The safer way, to exit a parking space, is by driving forwards. Every time. There are signs, at a local factory, that explicitly advise this. Other places around the area will not allow pedestrians access from their carparks unless the vehicle is reversed into the parking space. I know of at least four, locally.

[@StaggerLee1468]

The Tesla app refuses to recognise my postcode, so it won't allow me to register my payment method. Yay tech companies😑

[@David_Parr]

16x V4 Tesla Superchargers have been just been installed ( not Open yet ) at Designer Outlet York , St Nicholas Ave, York , YO19 4TA I wonder if these might be the new Higher speed V4. Plugshare have a few photo's of them that i took last week

[@davetakesiton]

To my knowledge none yet have approval so unlikely

[@David_Parr]

This Supercharger site has only been in construction for 8 weeks so you never know these might be the first and may open in 2025 or just before🤞

[@philipjones3599]

Crazy 500kw wasn't long ago 50kw was considered rapid charging.

[@oliver90owner]

Still is rapid (because it is DC). But really only Chademo these days. I wonder what these newest high kW chargers will be called. Super Ultra Rapid?

[@TheSmallRabbit]

@@oliver90owner I am sure they will charge more for these at non Tesla's chargers.

[@TheSmallRabbit]

My smaller i3 battery 38Kwh charges fast on 50Kw. Shows design an efficient car benefits all round. BMW got something right 10 years ago then abandoned it :-( What fools.

[@paulscott1759]

Cut the dialogue to 15 mins max dave please i tend to drift off easily

[@snodgee]

For every 12 cars charging there cars at 250Kw you will need one wind turbine

[@paddylogan13]

I'm paying £10 per month towards your network.

[@jameschapman4824]

And your point is. I think you are paying to use a network that is Tesla, BP et al. as all memberships do.

[@DJBaldPaul]

Nobody forced you.

[@paddylogan13]

@@jameschapman4824 My point is that Dave suggested that as Tesla drivers had paid for the Tesla charging network, they should have it to themselves. My point is that non-Tesla drivers either pay a premium or a membership fee, so they have also helped to fund the network.

[@steveharvey2001]

Have the voltage, current and power explanations from 16 mins been fact checked yet by an electrical Engineer?

[@malcolmsutton6740]

Suggest you write a script for your videos, get someone else to read it and cut out the dross, then do the video.

[@glideman]

Too much waffle

[@Chris-mh3vf]

Dave waffles on

[@tc_raistar_yt]

Just watched your video on XAI33x and I’m all in! This is going to be a wild ride!

[@DavidPlayfair]

"The Law is a ass", as Mr Bumble said. Although it would be good if the Law stipulated that ALL charging hubs had to have some Chademo connectors.

[@davidilm3752]

We need to phase out Chademo. Isnit possible to use an adapter to allow chademo users to use CCS2?

[@misstakenot9582]

@@davidilm3752 Adaptors exist, but they cost about a grand. This is because they contain a processor to do do the communication protocol conversion.

[@DavidPlayfair]

Yes, Chademo cars are being phased out but there are still plenty of Nissan Leafs driving around - and they are still being sold! There are 38,164 NISSAN LEAF left in the UK with an MOT" The owners of those cars shouldn't be restricted to local use only, surely? The adapters you talk of are available, but they are not made, nor endorsed, by Nissan, and cost more than many Leaf owners can afford.

[@videocanonuser]

@@misstakenot9582 I have an A2Z adapter which I occasionally use on longer journeys. It was almost £1,000 but it works every time - so far.

[@zoomcctv]

Hopefully Tesla will modify the charging curve on their BMS also otherwise none of this makes a difference. My model y hardly charges over 200kw unless it’s dead and that’s only to 15%. Model 2 if it even comes to market and Cybertruck are split 800/400V architecture so voltage doubling doesn’t apply

[@narrarohith5262]

I love the vision behind XAI33x! Your video really captured its potential!

[@sushanthkodali]

XAI33x is definitely on my radar now! Appreciate the insights from your video!

[@mjcamp01]

Dramatic? 😯 Tell me more

[@rijwanali1160]

I can’t stop thinking about XAI33x after your video! This is going to be huge!

[@PallabDalapati]

There is no project like XAI33x...it is literally owned by Elon Musk

[@mjcamp01]

18 minutes of waffle to start telling us the point, we like you Dave but please cut the waffle down

[@Banyan314]

Thank god I could scroll through this diatribe to the actual point of the video at 18 mins onwards. Fewer Tesla chargers for non Tesla’s ! Most powerful chargers for Teslas ! Woopy do ! Just open all Tesla Super Chargers to all EVs, but no , Tesla takes two steps forward and three steps back for non Tesla owners.

[@jameschapman4824]

You should have seen a lot more of the video and you would then know WHY the V1,V2,V3 chargers are reverting back to Tesla owners only.

[@oliver90owner]

My question is: Are they?

[@PaulCopp]

@@oliver90owner I hope so. By allowing non Tesla, much of the advantage is lost. System doesn't know what non Teslas are navigating to a station, 2 bays blocked by 'wrong side' port cars, chargers hogged by slow charging cars etc. If people wanted access to a fully integrated fast charging network, 'should have bought a Tesla'

[@Banyan314]

@@jameschapman4824 I watched from beginning to the end the first time, but was so unclear of the point of it that I thought I must have missed something. Scrolling forward to where the relevance to me as a viewer became clear. It did make me sad as as I have signed up to Tesla for our ‘oh so slow charging ‘ E Niro because it was a good price, so Elon gets our cash, and we have never blocked a charging bay to create a queue for Tesla, its just etiquette. The over stay charge might also have something to do with the rapid turn over of cars at these chargers ( a fact I didn’t recall being mentioned). I really enjoy most of your videos it just this one.

[@briankavanagh7191]

@@PaulCopp Musk is a business man and if he can make more money out of non tesla cars he will, I admit tesla cars have the best software and charger network, but they are boring to look at, they are not a look back car when you park up IMO, hence why people buy other makes.

[@mldas1127]

I’m excited to see how XAI33x performs! Your video made me a believer!

[@keithdenton8386]

Big deal. My car can charge at 240 watts, but I never have had that. Mostly I gat a peak of 200 for about 3 minutes then drops quickly. After about 10 minutes it's down about 100. Then drops off. I have seen Taycans down to 50 watts with only 30% charge. While my Tesla is getting 120 with 50%

[@therealgraeme]

Bloody hell. 18 minutes, before he start talking about what the subject line says. 🙄

[@TheSmallRabbit]

Plus the information provided may be inaccurate regards Telsa having to close chargers V2 for non Tesla which is not correct I am sure.

[@shaikmohdirfan]

Can't believe I almost missed out on XAI33x! Thanks for the heads-up in your video!

[@Cubacharlie14]

Hi Dave, don't keep yourself repeating the same which makes your video painful to watch. Try to go straight to the point and create new content.

[@trevsmith2268]

I hope Tesla sub users don’t get banned or I want a refund

[@jameschapman4824]

Why would you want a refund? If you can't use them then you won't be charged!

[@oliver90owner]

@@jameschapman4824 Perhaps he has an annual subscription?

[@trevsmith2268]

That’s exactly right annual subscription

[@manjinder1933]

Your video on XAI33x was super helpful! I’m ready to invest and ride the wave!

[@MikeF1sher]

Dave - normally love your stuff, but this one was more than bit repetitious and full of waffle. A very frustrating watch waiting for you to get to the point - only to find it was things I already know. Clickbait thumbnails and titles, followed by over 18 minutes of rambling and little digs at non-Tesla EV manufacturers - is beneath you.

[@TGR_AJAY.10]

Just bought my first XAI33x tokens! Your video made it clear this is a must-have!

[@paulweston1106]

Maybe Tesla will just pay the £10k fine per charger that isn't compliant.

[@ouchnotagain1971]

Omg @dave , waffle preach waffle preach. We all knnow how tesla charging works. And for new wv owners, you could have recapped for them in abojt 2 minutes. The one thing you dont say is WHY Tesla chose to open their network....GREED

[@Woodmaster1956]

So sick of the Teslarati trying to appear superior like they invented EVs. And I agree that your videos are becoming skewed toward Tesla. I left Tesla for one of the better equipped, quieter, and less rattly alternatives and don’t regret it one bit.

[@Naveengaming00095]

I genuinely think XAI33x will be the breakthrough for this run

[@St.AustellBlue]

Dave's TESLA Propaganda vlog. Do you get paid for the amount of times you mention TESLA?

[@russcraig1216]

Of all the things that aren't going to happen this isn't going to happen the most. This channel is getting delusional. All new chargers will need to comply and new Tesla chargers do comply. There is no story to waffle on about.

[@Itachivideo19]

I honestly think Elon Musk's XAI33x is the safest bet for long term hold, and will survive out of every other altcoins. It will get adopted in US, Ecuador, Asia, starting from Japan, and slowly spread out and gain. This is a winning coin, apart from all the technical greatness.

[@GurshanSingh-tz2io]

I solely believe XAI33x will do 20x after its launch price, the hype is high and its community are not relenting.

[@chrisp7839]

More sensationalist headlines from Mr D. The legislation says one year from the date the charger went public, not all open to all superchargers opened on the same day. So all they have to do is ask you to pay the membership to use them, until they retro fit. This channel is getting closer to The Macmaster in its sensationalist thumbnails. Very quiet now about the Road Tax changes, after a number of inaccuracies were pointed out over that video too. The presentation style is not particularly engaging, but the channel’s appeal is in the usefulness of the information given. If it continues with this sensationalism and reduced accuracy of the information, I for one will be unsubscribing.

[@davetakesiton]

Read the law again, please. Here is what it says: "The regulations require that all new public charge points 8kW and above deployed after 24 November 2024 and all public charge points of 50kW and above must offer contactless payment either per public charge point or per charging site, if more than one public charge point. Contactless payment must be available at the above charge points by 24 November 2024." Hardly sensational to quote direct from GOV.UK website. No inaccuracies here. Or do you think it means something totally different?

[@chrisp7839]

@@davetakesiton All I can say is your track record on accuracy is not great. You are always right in your eyes. Remember you road tax videos. You told us all that we couldn’t renew our road tax early to gain an extra year, even though we told that we had done just that. Was there a correction issued - no . Sometimes you come over as the definition of arrogance, and people are beginning to tire of it. Still enjoying your videos, but just not as much recently.