v5.3 FTL Multiverse : The Aphorism | Unique Crew & Crewser Tier list

[@ddshocktrooper5604]

The criticism of Irwin I find pretty amusing, because I've only ever really experienced him as a package with GAS queen, and thinking about it, that's like the one situation where he shines. You just don't have the queen in the room when you fire the tranq, so when the queen comes in she 2 taps everyone because they only have 100hp and no defence. Making lanius obelisks and ghosts asphyxiate on their own ships is pretty funny too. I always thought he was a pretty useful support tool, but thinking about it I can see how terrible he'd be if you were actually trying to use him for boarding/fighting directly, particularly in the midgame. Also doesn't help that normally when I get Irwin it's so late I have so much scrap I can just buy expensive things like L4 teleporter to actually make him useful for anything but defending the ship from elite boarders. But yeah, Irwin really is just a win more tool for already complete boarding setups.

[@ceddavis7441]

would like to comment on one thing, spider queen allows you direct control over spiders. if she dies you do lose control. Even if she's about to be cloned which is unusual, but she alone does make spider boarding viable, however much you want that. also dunno if this is new with 5.4, but once you do the ellie quests, ellie is the best boarder in the game. Able to bash down doors instantly and, and with an insane melee attack speed and damage obliterating anything in seconds, not to mention she is FAST, only issue is that she goes insane and becomes uncontrollable and unteleportable, clonebay is a must with her, but she cleans out ships like no ones business.

[@benjiiano4077]

Congratulations on graduating!!🎉

[@tropical1675]

Thanks, although winning an FTL run means more to me than whatever the purpose of high school was supposed to be.

[@seeker767]

@@tropical1675 relatable lol. but congratulation too 🎉

[@carrotizgud9222]

@@tropical1675 lol🤣

[@infinityc2859]

I mean wither's cruiser does have anointed on it so it could be placed in the anointed tier Also mind control can also be used on the pilot to reduce the enemy's evasion (with hacking this can allow hacking to be used elsewhere if you were going to use it on engines or piloting). By the way before 5.0 knighted cruiser A functioned a lot more like nights crewser (just a small fact).

[@tropical1675]

Wither's Crewser doesn't send the same message that playing the Anointed's Crewser does; it's all about the journey. I do remember Knight A's gimmick being different, but to be honest I only mentioned the regular ship counterparts for a select few Crewsers like Freddy's or Turzil's just to explain why they're slightly stronger or weaker. Mind Control will remain redundant and hilariously unapplicable over Hacking and Cloaking as tools to help your actual boarding team. Unless you start with the absolute bare minimum like Symbiote's Crewser, it's outclassed too hard to be a proper system that compares to the others. The only true advantage is the internal system upgrades which could play a role in a few fights yes, but that also requires the system to be installed, over something else like I mentioned.

[@ddshocktrooper5604]

Jerry is probably the only case I'd consider the mind control, purely so you can counter enemy mind control so you don't lose control of Jerry (Someone may have already died by the time you disable MC in any other way). But even then I'd rather just buy a slug and get the lab upgrade to provide AoE immunity so the mind control hits literally any other crew member before moving Jerry to the warp pipe.

[@andalus8449]

i would like to mention a bug involving Ellies crewser that makes it... interesting. if you get another crew memeber, i.e at start or anytime during run, and you do ellies questline, they will actually convert into Ellie and level with the quest. they can't hit the final level and get that insane passive ability dps, but it makes the two crew boarding on that ship way more interesting assuming there's no mind control

[@TtronX]

I feel that night ranking is low. If your on a run where you don’t need nights or not boarding then you will rather take the KoN slugs or the free weapon from Slocknog

[@carrotizgud9222]

maybe unrelated but I see you are very well unreceived in the FTL Multiverse discord server , why is that? Interested to hear from your side

[@tropical1675]

There's probably a couple reasons besides the main one, the said main one though is because of my reputation a bit over a year ago. If I made some efforts I could probably earn a voice, but I'm too tired for it. It's kind of like, not meant to be, if you get what I mean.

[@carrotizgud9222]

@@tropical1675 I suppose. I looked back at it and it's mostly because of your remarks and questionable (?) tier lists. Even now today they bashed your crew tier list for ghosts being so low, lol. not the first time i've been banned from a server either, too much trolling edit: I'm not gonna lie, I laughed at some of the shit you posted lmao, they really did hate you for nothing huh

[@tropical1675]

@@carrotizgud9222 Ghosts are low on my tier list because I completed my entire save profile of 200+ ships on Hard Extreme and only used Ghost boarding about, hm, maybe 4 or so times? The tier lists are complete reflects on my vast gameplay experience I've had throughout not only this channel's existence (closing in on 2 years soon) but the time I spent gaming beforehand as well (vanilla experience, because I can tell you right now side by side between the two games, the difference is really only in the approach you use to win a run in either games. Fundamentally it is still FTL, so yeah). I can understand a grudge maybe on the trolling, but anything beyond that is just confusing. Tropical is the bad guy because the mod I DEVELOPED has imperfections and obvious power gaps between various equipment and crew and he decides to point them out logically and with evidence of him being a staple player. It's all good though, I'm not gonna lose any sleep from it either way. Seems like they hold their ground without me just fine as well, so I think we're all winning here. Can't complain about that.

[@carrotizgud9222]

@@tropical1675 true. they say ghost boarding is insane cause of non-corp, but I think augmented are better simply for the fact you can actually man shit with them - ghosts with passive effects are uncontrollable. To make the argument that you need to upgrade it to make it good applies to every class tho - upgraded augmented with 33%hp, human teamwork perk, etc. Just too unreliable to have a proper strategy with. I mean main dev or used to be (Kix) left now so its up to the others. Tho the question arises - why are ghosts bad for you necessarily?

[@tropical1675]

@@carrotizgud9222 You have to go out of your way to secure a fair ghost boarding team, and this is assuming your run isn't struggling in some way and can afford it. Augmented are broken out of the box, like the actual definition of broken because of how well they counter the most powerful of enemies. I have never had a run where I was able to use Ghosts better off than Augmented for a victory. That's probably another thing people are hung up on, like sure specifically for the highest end enemies like Sylvans and Prime that Gouls and Ghosts could perform slightly better: but Nexus runs are not even remotely the only questlines you can take on, because if it means something to rank Ghosts based off how well they do against "end bosses", why would it not be the same idea for how well Augmented stream roll the absolute rest of the game? It's virtually child's play in any run where you don't deal with an enemy that has 6x Vindicators and at least a dozen 250 HP crew that are inflicting the damage of a Mantis with 90% hazard resistance. That's all I got though, if some people have good runs with ghosts in their experience, I mean sure who am I to say their own runs make no sense? I'm saying they do make sense, but in my personal exploration of the game, I'm not sugar coating things just because I don't play on easier difficulties or participate in group day dream with other people who started playing less than a year ago.