Dark Souls 3 Lore ► The Angels of Lothric

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VaatiVidya

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►Sister Video: The Hollows of Londor • Dark Souls 3 Lore ► Th...
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►Raven_Biter_114's link between Gwynevere & the DLC track bit.ly/2aObs0s
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►Raven_Biter_114 thinks the Darklurker could be an angel bit.ly/2aPd9uS
►lupinemaverick's locating of Gertrude bit.ly/2aRcLJd
I wanted to amend a lot of things in this script and make it more succinct, but I got sick for a second week in a row and lost my voice this time. RIP
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@aaronconlin
@aaronconlin 6 жыл бұрын
The primordial serpents look goofy as hell
@quentincasort9640
@quentincasort9640 5 жыл бұрын
DONT INSULT FRAMPT
@RoachDoggJR.-
@RoachDoggJR.- 5 жыл бұрын
They look like goofy if he had his lips removed
@28fabianz1
@28fabianz1 5 жыл бұрын
@@quentincasort9640 He was clearly talking about Kaathe
@quentincasort9640
@quentincasort9640 5 жыл бұрын
@@28fabianz1 GOOD
@Mare_Man
@Mare_Man 5 жыл бұрын
*chewing noises intensify*
@molt2482
@molt2482 7 жыл бұрын
"Gwynevere will be in the dlc" I can't wait for all the *_GREAT CHEST AHEAD_* messages again
@mohammad009009
@mohammad009009 7 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@zackarypettit9250
@zackarypettit9250 7 жыл бұрын
I know right? It'll be amazing
@die3zocker526
@die3zocker526 7 жыл бұрын
Mimic ahead
@contaminationofthepatient5459
@contaminationofthepatient5459 7 жыл бұрын
"Try horse in hole"
@pocketlint60
@pocketlint60 7 жыл бұрын
Critical foe ahead all the more ahh, chest...
@wayoftheblue1528
@wayoftheblue1528 7 жыл бұрын
Corpse in the cage? Some guy who fell into the cage, read her story, and died becas we wa so sad. Why does Rosaria tell people to kill others? She doesn't. She's mute and those assholes assume she wants tongues of the innocent. She actually doesn't, they kind of pile up in the closet, so she gives you random gifts so you stop bringing them.
@music79075
@music79075 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@kubilay6294
@kubilay6294 4 жыл бұрын
omg period
@Junglehunter677
@Junglehunter677 4 жыл бұрын
They cut out her tounge, so we act as her fingers, taking the tounges of those who did not stop them from silencing our mother of rebirth
@cristofercalleros1906
@cristofercalleros1906 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the dumbest theory I’ve ever heard lmao
@futurem6367
@futurem6367 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best theory i've ver read
@ForeverDansky
@ForeverDansky 7 жыл бұрын
You're a great storyteller - can't stop listening, fascinating lore! :)
@jabroni8567
@jabroni8567 6 жыл бұрын
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@alex_7582
@alex_7582 5 жыл бұрын
He is from Carim
@capcom23
@capcom23 5 жыл бұрын
where? :P
@AttiMatter
@AttiMatter 5 жыл бұрын
@@alex_7582 lol
@alex_7582
@alex_7582 5 жыл бұрын
@@AttiMatter Yup, storytellers from Carim are great
@tobinioz
@tobinioz 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think Hidetaka Miyasaki just have placed random shit all over the place with no thougth behind it so the players can puzzle it all together and so he can get entertained by the conspiracies. But Vaati's conspiracies makes too much sense! ;^/
@JordanSmith-yi3ji
@JordanSmith-yi3ji 7 жыл бұрын
Well, this IS Miyazaki we are talking about. The pendant is important he said, nah it was a joke he later said.
@InsaneReaper961
@InsaneReaper961 7 жыл бұрын
Well, as they say, in game design, almost nothing is random. Every part of the environment was deliberately designed and approved by someone out there. I would totally laugh if Miyazaki was just throwing stuff in on a whim to fuck with us though.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 7 жыл бұрын
Then you don't know anything about Japanese design.. they are maniacs what have book of lore even for Mario franchise, what they typically never publish just because. But the lore in games is typically coherent as hell.. and if somethings are contradictory it typically is red hearing some of kind. There are leaks from people who work on official Souls guide that many stuff with several ways to be interpret were deliberately designed that way (they did see whole lists of ways in which people could interpret some facts). So no.. nothing here is random.
@All4Randomness1
@All4Randomness1 7 жыл бұрын
Whoever did the lore for Bloodborne definitely did that with the timeline.
@self2self9
@self2self9 7 жыл бұрын
I'm about to join you on this drinking game
@puppiesgoesrawr
@puppiesgoesrawr 7 жыл бұрын
From an imagery standpoint, it makes sense that Getrude/rosaria turns her followers into grubs. Those grubs reminds me of caterpillars. After wrapping themselves in cocoon, caterpillars are 'rebirth' as butterfly. Being the mother of rebirth, rosaria may have facilitated the transformation from man, to grub, and eventually to a winged creature like the angel.
@puppiesgoesrawr
@puppiesgoesrawr 7 жыл бұрын
Patreon
@gabrielgrenier2427
@gabrielgrenier2427 7 жыл бұрын
ooooo cool theory
@javkiller
@javkiller 7 жыл бұрын
The iconography checks out. The way Rosaria is presented in the game is not far from a classical "pietá".
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
... HUH. Also, Pilgrim Butterflies have that twisted pseudo angelic appearance, AND THAT HAS A WEIRD CONNECTION WITH THE DARKLURKER sorry, had a sudden epiphany regarding a theory of the Darklurker being a false angel or something.
@walthawk1492
@walthawk1492 7 жыл бұрын
+PolarPhantom I know right? It really intrigued me earlier in this games cycle, but couldn't find anything to support it. But relating it to this video, it makes no sense.......... GODDAMN I HATE DS2 LORE. IT FUCKED IT ALL UP
@iondavid8706
@iondavid8706 7 жыл бұрын
spoiler alert the entire series of dark souls is a match of chess between Frampt and Kaathe :D :D
@christiancristof491
@christiancristof491 6 жыл бұрын
That would imply they are against each other. They are not. They cooperate.
@biofilms22
@biofilms22 6 жыл бұрын
ion david More like Gwyndolin and Kaathe in DS1, Emerald Herald and Aldia in DS2 and Gwynevere and Lothric (or the first scholar) in DS3.
@Jfullmetal21
@Jfullmetal21 4 жыл бұрын
@@christiancristof491 ever hear what they say about enemies and friends? I doubt those two are friends... they're serpents, and primordial... we unkindled could never truly know. (yes, we're unkindled and not the hollows because we in the real world have never tasted death)
@jayteegamble
@jayteegamble 4 жыл бұрын
@@biofilms22 When my roommate beat DS1 he was like "I'm on fire, what the heck? Worst ending ever?" And i said "Gwyndolin played you." "Who?" "Exactly. Pwnt."
@geralt9036
@geralt9036 4 жыл бұрын
Frampt: White , Kaathe: Black
@jugotruehero3828
@jugotruehero3828 7 жыл бұрын
its awkward watching these when the first dlc is already out
@BoarhideGaming
@BoarhideGaming 7 жыл бұрын
JugoTrueHero Ask me how I feel another six months later, after playing through both. Not a single question was answered
@TheFrostsabre
@TheFrostsabre 5 жыл бұрын
BoarhideGaming ok, how do you feel?
@frippyyy1021
@frippyyy1021 5 жыл бұрын
its been a year how do you feel?
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 5 жыл бұрын
+Frippyyy I just want answers!
@jujorbob0363
@jujorbob0363 5 жыл бұрын
HOW DO YOU FEEL
@fsmjolnir
@fsmjolnir 7 жыл бұрын
its worth noting that the cage at the top of the archives with divine pillars of light, and a gate in rosaria's room, has the same pattern/design.
@fsmjolnir
@fsmjolnir 7 жыл бұрын
THIS IS IMPORTANT IMO DWEJKFPIF
@IjiModo
@IjiModo 7 жыл бұрын
That's really is super important. Nice observation!
@jynxed66six54
@jynxed66six54 7 жыл бұрын
well with this whole 'rosaria is getrude' thing, it might well be. i dont see that being true though. it just doesnt fit together right. i mean, if she was in the cage the whole time or serving lothric, the knowledge of the angles couldnt have been given as rosaria is a mute. that couldnt have happened after she left, because there would be more traces of that event. maybe they are linked, but i just dont see this theory being true. also, whats with all the cradles in her room? she had more than one child, but that couldnt have happened in that room. maybe there for the grumbs
@undeadvii25
@undeadvii25 7 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Payne Caligraphy, perhaps?
@Dantick09
@Dantick09 7 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Payne people see her to be re-born so maybe they are literally reborn? I think the mangrub was sent by Rosaria along with the Angels to free Gertrude by entering through the roof but he was too late so he opened the door but couldn't get down any further. Gertrude and Rosaria seem to be related to Gwynevere somehow
@Aurongel
@Aurongel 7 жыл бұрын
9:10 The Deacons of the Deep are not impressed with your dance moves.
@puffinmaster8
@puffinmaster8 7 жыл бұрын
LOL, nice!
@slyose6154
@slyose6154 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, good spot!
@UnfaithfulServant97
@UnfaithfulServant97 7 жыл бұрын
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!
@tinhornname4117
@tinhornname4117 7 жыл бұрын
Jolly cooperation?
@officialgoosestudios7151
@officialgoosestudios7151 7 жыл бұрын
SHOW ME UR MOVES!
@rasendori20
@rasendori20 6 жыл бұрын
"DLC will uncover the truth" Christ, how naïve we where a year ago
@fakegmale4648
@fakegmale4648 4 жыл бұрын
Rasend0ri tbf the painted world was about a member of the sable church and the ringed city was about gods and men with londor pilgrims sprinkled in. so vaati was half right
@buckleygeneration
@buckleygeneration 3 жыл бұрын
NKane When? Gwynevere isn’t in the DLC.
@JigglyBooties
@JigglyBooties 3 жыл бұрын
Kobbe yeah id like to know too. Cuz she definitely was not in the dlc
@dexterityisbetterthanstren8961
@dexterityisbetterthanstren8961 3 жыл бұрын
NKane you mean fillianore
@DocJamesH
@DocJamesH 3 жыл бұрын
Naïve we were* Shakespeare.
@jadon1810
@jadon1810 7 жыл бұрын
20:48 i love how he just gets dunked while trying to make an edgy cut scene lol
@VaatiVidya
@VaatiVidya 7 жыл бұрын
you guys leave nice comments i think you're p cool
@ehoffart529
@ehoffart529 7 жыл бұрын
When does the Edwad lore video come out?
@dexterbarry9829
@dexterbarry9829 7 жыл бұрын
you're one of my favourite KZbinrs because your vids are so well put together and interesting. Thank you ^_^
@CameronAB122
@CameronAB122 7 жыл бұрын
Thx ur cool 2
@justinbackert5363
@justinbackert5363 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, you're not too bad yourself
@danielclark653
@danielclark653 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video I love your stuff
@YeahTheDuckweed
@YeahTheDuckweed 5 жыл бұрын
*Kinda sad neither of the DLC's were either Londor nor Angels now.* Wait...Angels...What was Ringed City about again?
@XDthedevilsrejectsXD
@XDthedevilsrejectsXD 5 жыл бұрын
Disco lazer dragoon and the boi that suckled on the necks of pigmys
@feelingokonasunday7678
@feelingokonasunday7678 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Lapp dancers
@Pedro_Colicigno
@Pedro_Colicigno 4 жыл бұрын
All I remember were a bunch of bugs that killed me when I wasn't looking.
@ImtihanAhmed
@ImtihanAhmed 4 жыл бұрын
it was about a feast
@Auroche
@Auroche 4 жыл бұрын
Ringed City was technically both Londor and Angels in one DLC. It was great.
@MB-px7iu
@MB-px7iu 8 ай бұрын
Dark souls is either so incredibly well thought and hidden subtly that it's a beautiful puzzle or so lazily thrown together that players think it's deep lore. Either way, I love it
@el_gatoNegro
@el_gatoNegro 7 ай бұрын
It's the former.
@raphaelkox
@raphaelkox 7 жыл бұрын
20:48 - So now, i stand here, looking dramatically at the background, looking cool and- - random enemy: NOT. ON. MY. WATCH .
@exaliber5321
@exaliber5321 7 жыл бұрын
Angels? More like... BEYBLADES
@VenaliNaera
@VenaliNaera 7 жыл бұрын
ffs really
@exaliber5321
@exaliber5321 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry xD
@hdnightowl4664
@hdnightowl4664 7 жыл бұрын
Beyblangels
@zegreatpumpkinani9161
@zegreatpumpkinani9161 7 жыл бұрын
spin to win
@somgaionyoutube6408
@somgaionyoutube6408 7 жыл бұрын
*BAEBLADES
@Themonoshadow
@Themonoshadow 7 жыл бұрын
20:46 He's standing looking all cool and all of a sudden, shit got real. ha!
@daith_izumi
@daith_izumi 4 жыл бұрын
“Lothric Knights and Winged Knights never fight together” But they share a common enemy.......YOU. We’re going to send you to fight them both.
@matthewhall1467
@matthewhall1467 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt like the Lothric Prince’s story was faaaar more significant than it was initially presented as. They’re just like the player character if we had chosen to break the cycle that Gwyn started.
@08Darkra80
@08Darkra80 7 жыл бұрын
Wheres our Edwad Emberpants lore?
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 7 жыл бұрын
Soon.
@thatusernameguy
@thatusernameguy 7 жыл бұрын
+Dai see Priscilla video for answer
@dignifieddingus9821
@dignifieddingus9821 7 жыл бұрын
+Dai He said he would make an Edwad lore video
@kethe
@kethe 7 жыл бұрын
Chapter 1: There's no lore. The End.
@greelmindraker1023
@greelmindraker1023 7 жыл бұрын
I firmly believe that Rosaria is not Gertrude but Gwynevere. This allows explanation of the holes you pointed out in the Gertrude theory. Gwnyevere was the queen but all of her children seemed to be used by others. Prince Lothric was used by the scholars, Gertrude by the angels, and The Dancer by Pontiff Sulyvahn. Gwynevere became Rosaria and fled to the Cathedral of the Deep after her first born daughter was manipulated by Pontiff Sulyvahn and cut out Gwynevere's tongue. Betrayed by her own daughter caused the once Beautiful and radiant Queen fall into despair and is the reason she looks the way she does when we find her. The fact that Rosaria is Gwynevere also explains why we get a stronger version of Bountiful Light from her soul. Even after her daughter's betrayal Gwynevere still cared for her children, the evidence is shown by the Man Grub next to Gertrude's cell. Also Gwynevere is always heralded as a caring motherly figure, and the fact that Rosaria is called The Mother of Rebirth. As for her follows invading, well she has never told them to invade, it is similar to The Fair Lady and Kirk in Dark Souls, they simply wish to ease her pain. I dont think it is the tongue's that she cares about but the aspect that she sees The Fingers as her children and their offering of tongue's to her shows their love, that is what she cares about. The fact that only after losing everything did she truly gain children that cared for her.
@LilcNewman
@LilcNewman 7 жыл бұрын
I never thought about Aldrich going after Rosaria and that being the reason the bars are bent outward with sludge every where. Makes so much sense, especially since he was all about nom noming on some lords. As for the man grub outside the cage, do you think it's possible Rosaria sent the man grub to free her sister from Lothric and that it opened the cage for her? A bit of a stretch, but it is a souls game after all lol. One issue with this is items and spells are usually found on the bodies of their owners/founders, so the body in the cage could very well be Gertrude (or how ever you spell her name).
@theLoPlo
@theLoPlo Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, how about Rosaria's minion was sent there to free her sister but when he arrived and opened the doors of her cage, she was already dead
@BlusherShy
@BlusherShy 2 жыл бұрын
8:25 - The serious tone + the moving statue was hilarious 🤣 In all seriousness though, your videos on Dark Souls and other lore are epic, very informative and amazingly put together. 👏👏👏
@monkeyfloatsupreme5586
@monkeyfloatsupreme5586 7 жыл бұрын
I really want a souls game that d isn't the apocalypse already when you arrive so you can see it fall apart
@Samsaraslug
@Samsaraslug 7 жыл бұрын
The majical rubix cube that would kinda defwat the point, also they'd have to make it an open workd rpg with quests instead of a Castlevania dungeon crawler.
@TheEnigmaticKasai
@TheEnigmaticKasai 7 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how you'd work it into a game/the series, but I would love to see what the world of Dark Souls is like at the height of an age of fire.
@zaroko8105
@zaroko8105 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to go fight the chaos demons or the dragons with Gwyn
@capcom23
@capcom23 5 жыл бұрын
Or they could start the game in full light and then darkness is coming and then you become hollow because you got sucked up. It would work great!
@TheBeastr
@TheBeastr 5 жыл бұрын
It could work if you fought alongside Gwyn through thick and thin only to turn hollow because your a mere human. Becoming one of the first undead, showing how one truly becomes branded & how one becomes hollow at first, not like those descendants of the pygmy that were born with the curse. It'd be cool if in this game you were persecuted to the point using the dark against those who all betrayed or abandoned you when you needed the gods the most. Though I feel as if Dark Souls 3 DLC of The Ringed City ends the series really well, as we are just part of a Cycle between Fire and Dark
@TerraMantis
@TerraMantis 7 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 800k (for the second time). Rosaria also has white strands in her hair, as if she had her head dunked in white wax. Also, her hair is about 30 feet long, a potential sign of someone who's been imprisoned for a very long time. Obviously these hints both suggest an additional connection to Gertrude's cage in the Archives. She's also blind and mute just like Gerturde, and even though she has the power to transform the player-character and, in turn transform herself, which would repair these abnormalities just as Leonard's Mask states, she chooses not to. To me that says there's a deep vendetta rooted there, she chooses to be blind and mute as a reminder of how she was treated and her familial betrayal. Regardless, I'm not saying Rosaria is Gertrude, but there's a ton of evidence to support the idea. DLCs will more than likely uncover the full story... or at least as full as Dark Souls' ambiguous style will allow.
@chriszyboisz740
@chriszyboisz740 7 жыл бұрын
what's up m8! btw you're most likely right.
@yrazu05
@yrazu05 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of her taking revenge on those that would be linking the fire by allowing invasions and stealing the flame from the player (as when you're killed the invader receives an ember and the host will be not be embered).
@bilguunnyamaa7767
@bilguunnyamaa7767 7 жыл бұрын
Sup dude. Number 1 soulsborne KZbinr
@TheAnomaly00
@TheAnomaly00 7 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps it is not necessarily out of anger, perhaps it is out of sorrow. Think about it, her own younger brother declared her a heretic and locked her in a cage, inciting a brutal, bloody civil war. When she fled to the Cathedral she thought she was safe at last, then Aldrich woke up and proceeded to flood the place with filth, corrupting the followers of the way of white and finding herself trapped, Aldrich lusting for her angelic flesh. And so, hundreds of her children sacrifice themselves daily just to keep her safe, and all she can do is watch. It would be enough to break anyone.
@Satsaru
@Satsaru 7 жыл бұрын
There isn't anything suggesting she's blind in game though, is there?
@Sunwakka
@Sunwakka 7 жыл бұрын
Where does Leonhard bring Risaria's soul? He brings it to Gwynovere's chamber. What do you get from her soul? One of gwynovere's miracles.
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 7 жыл бұрын
But what if Gwynnevere is not kill . . . .*Illuminati confirmed*
@andrascsanadschmidt5109
@andrascsanadschmidt5109 7 жыл бұрын
M4tty B3e we dont kill her in DS1 , we kill her illusion
@Draclord35
@Draclord35 7 жыл бұрын
Sunwakka exactly why I think Rosaria is a twisted version of Gwynevere. Corrupted like all the rest in this (un)dying world. also, the shape of her soul is swirling like the one from other Lords (Nameless King for example).
@MekahMenke
@MekahMenke 7 жыл бұрын
Mad Jotun that's.... amazing, I like that!
@rance8838
@rance8838 7 жыл бұрын
It's more plausible to believe she is one of her daughters.
@Theunrealfight
@Theunrealfight 6 жыл бұрын
11:04 The boy in the back seems to have a bad framerate.
@kartoffelwillipeter3067
@kartoffelwillipeter3067 3 жыл бұрын
That's just what Dark Souls looks like on console
@dowfreak7
@dowfreak7 3 жыл бұрын
"These are noble depictions of self-sacrifice in order to elongate an age of prosperity" Kinda lost some of its epicness with knighty boy going "beep-boop, I'm a robot" in the background.
@carbonsword5924
@carbonsword5924 3 жыл бұрын
@@kartoffelwillipeter3067 sure, I get 60 FPS on ps5
@thenthapple
@thenthapple 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoyed it :)
@gamjam1581
@gamjam1581 7 жыл бұрын
a
@InfamousTaters
@InfamousTaters 7 жыл бұрын
oh, you're here? dope.
@gamjam1581
@gamjam1581 7 жыл бұрын
a
@yangiti8672
@yangiti8672 7 жыл бұрын
YOOOO I NEVER EXPECTED MY FALLOUT LORE GUY TO WATCH MY DARK SOULS LORE GUY
@plxxrotmg6837
@plxxrotmg6837 7 жыл бұрын
+yangiti Lore people gotta be friends
@LenkyLad
@LenkyLad 7 жыл бұрын
But this doesn't explain how Edwad the Chosen and his warriors of sunlight fit in with everything.
@thomasdanforth766
@thomasdanforth766 7 жыл бұрын
and don't forget Moose
@imploreyoutoreconsider5092
@imploreyoutoreconsider5092 7 жыл бұрын
I can't imaging da sunlaight warriers without meatball
@kewlkatzklub982
@kewlkatzklub982 7 жыл бұрын
Their the warriors of sunlight, and moose *Their the warriors of sunlight and moooose!*
@Grxnts
@Grxnts 6 жыл бұрын
Teh BrownieMixx Edwad accidentally went into NG+ and reset everything....
@mandalore9720
@mandalore9720 6 жыл бұрын
what are you people talking about, its always been up to edwad by himself since the very beginning
@noardon1
@noardon1 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that Gertrude's cage is shaped like a Pontiff Knight crown?
@Ali-ul5ws
@Ali-ul5ws 6 жыл бұрын
idk if anyone has said this yet but if rosaria is dead before you reach Gertrude's cell the man grub isn't there. it's probably not that important but still...
@rbda8921
@rbda8921 2 жыл бұрын
sheeeeeesh
@rambo-cambo3581
@rambo-cambo3581 2 жыл бұрын
There's another random mangrub under the bridge that leads to irithyll - I wonder
@gbishop1774
@gbishop1774 7 жыл бұрын
I do love how the Souls series is always dropping just anything that'll tell you "hey remember this place? well it's back, a bit run down and will still try to kill you but it's back"
@NatrajChaturvedi
@NatrajChaturvedi 7 жыл бұрын
man your dark souls 3 videos are amazing. I wish there was one more dark souls at least with equally rich lore
@rahulverma8774
@rahulverma8774 3 жыл бұрын
I think we will only get dark souls 4 if FromSoft fails to make their other franchises as profitable as dark souls ......... dark souls is like FromSoft's lifeline which will only be used if FromSoft suffers losses
@Menkhor
@Menkhor 5 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel because I'm finally getting around to beating the Ringed City and am once again fascinated by the Dark Souls lore. And I am very glad that I did. You do a fantastic job of clarifying things. Amazing videos man! Thanks a ton for these, even years later they are greatly appreciated!
@mrjrb561
@mrjrb561 7 жыл бұрын
So after reconsidering this Way of White to Cathedral of the Deep, I have now wondered if Aldrich was reborn into the dark monster we see consuming Gwyndolin- What I mean is maybe he was reborn as the sludge monster because he moves and resembles a huge version of the Mangrubs, even more so the spellcasting ones. Now that being said, it makes me wonder if the Rosaria came to the Cathedral and THEN started the corrupting influence. Could she have been the one to start the turning away from the white? It's been kind of nagging at the back of my mind that this might well be the case. Symbolically speaking, she appears to have possibly been a light colored being with the white streaks (hinting to her being the reborn Gwynevere- same miracle from Gwynevere and Rosaria = tied to the same soul), so perhaps that could be a clue to her turning not evil per se, but a near corrupt version of her previous self, and subsequently perverting the Way of White around her. I don't know it sounds dumb, but like I said, it's been chewing away at the back of my mind.
@Anon-qp3kt
@Anon-qp3kt 2 жыл бұрын
Aldrich wasn't reborn into the monster consuming Gwyndolin. He is the monster that consumed Gwyndolin. He was reanimated as a sludge.
@mrjrb561
@mrjrb561 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anon-qp3kt You are reading what I suggested wrong. Aldrich was a cleric BEFORE becoming sludge- what if during his eating years ago he was "reborn" as the sludge- as we see the sludge infesting the Cathedral of the Deep COMING OUT OF/BREAKING OUT OF Rosaria's chamber. There's nothing to say his transformation into the sludge was not a rebirth. Even as you say, if he was "reanimated as a sludge," then it also means he was "reborn as a sludge."
@noraomne8739
@noraomne8739 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Aldritch ate Gwyndolin, at least not on a soul level. I think Aldritch was Gwyndolin, who discarded and ate his previous body after/at being reborn via Rosaria. As well, I think Rosaria has rebirth magic because she is a feminine/motherly soul, just as Gwynevere is, but I think that’s the only relation Rosaria has to Gwynevere, and I do not think they are the same person/soul.
@mrjrb561
@mrjrb561 2 жыл бұрын
@@noraomne8739 aldritch is 100% in process of devouring gwyndolin- eating from legs up, and dreaming of the girl in the painting due to the process. He's literally called the god devourer!
@noraomne8739
@noraomne8739 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjrb561 What if its Gwyndolin eating the gods tho
@theultimateonejpsx749
@theultimateonejpsx749 7 жыл бұрын
I got the chills while listening to that DLC boss theme. Now I think you're right Vaati.
@draw2death421
@draw2death421 6 жыл бұрын
theultimateonejpsx he was wrong saddly
@noahsturgis3633
@noahsturgis3633 7 жыл бұрын
I personally think that Gertrude was visited by the Darklurker from Dark Souls 2.
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
The TV Tropes Fridge page pushes that theory pretty hard.
@Zac99
@Zac99 7 жыл бұрын
While it looks like he may be a candidate for the angel that visited Gertrude, it looks more like he has tendrils on his wings and considering his connection to the dark, something tells me he wouldn't be so keen on pushing for the linking of the fire the way it's implied.
@KuroNoTenno
@KuroNoTenno 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see how Gertrude would've made a LIGHT miracle based on DARK based creature.
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
Darklurker is one of the few creatures in Dark Souls prior to 3 that resembles an angel. Furthermore, it has a mild glow around it. Really, people just want more DSII references when DSII is more of a gaiden game to be frank.
@KuroNoTenno
@KuroNoTenno 7 жыл бұрын
PolarPhantom Darklurker is angelic only in appearance. All of his attacks deal dark damage, plus it was implyed that he is another shard of Manus' soul.
@xxEpicxGunnerxx
@xxEpicxGunnerxx 7 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd make a dlc or a whole separate game about sieg ward and the onion knights.
@Soft_Ghost
@Soft_Ghost 7 жыл бұрын
It would be a puzzle game then. And instead of fighting, you got to use your head and think.
@takezokimura2571
@takezokimura2571 7 жыл бұрын
Estus soup as healing items and each time you are hit tears start to cover the screen, because onion knights.
@almightywee_man6569
@almightywee_man6569 7 жыл бұрын
LamePunPond the puzzles would be waiting
@BonerSexGaming
@BonerSexGaming 6 жыл бұрын
LamePunPond hmmm.... hmmm... mhmmm...
@TheBeastr
@TheBeastr 5 жыл бұрын
What if you are the pluckiest of the Onion knights as the youngest and the 'bravest'
@rangedweevil6150
@rangedweevil6150 2 жыл бұрын
In the item description for the Sun Princess Ring it says Gwynevere left Anor Londo and became a mother of several heavenly children. I'm not sure if the original japanese is the same as Gertrude's description of being the heavenly daughter, but maybe that does allude to Gwynevere being the queen of Lothric and mother of Gertrude?
@slyose6154
@slyose6154 7 жыл бұрын
Last time I came this early, I was alive
@Freakincident
@Freakincident 7 жыл бұрын
And the supposed God of war
@slyose6154
@slyose6154 7 жыл бұрын
***** Off chasing a deer.
@zegreatpumpkinani9161
@zegreatpumpkinani9161 7 жыл бұрын
oh deer, not again
@tyrantnolife2777
@tyrantnolife2777 7 жыл бұрын
you'll always live in our hearts Solaire
@thesyndrome43
@thesyndrome43 7 жыл бұрын
the last time I came this early, she never called back
@walterruiz-almendarez3688
@walterruiz-almendarez3688 7 жыл бұрын
Now going back. I think that the Frozen Eleum Loyce may be related to the Profaned Capital. The Ivory King went down to put the choas fire to rest but came back corrupted. I think that the profaned flame may be the choas fire which explains why the demons are dying. It was harvested dry. And anyone in contact with both the choas fire and the profaned flame go mad. It may not be related to the video but I just thought of this. Great video by the way.
@walterruiz-almendarez3688
@walterruiz-almendarez3688 7 жыл бұрын
In a DLC, we may return to an old one last time.
@walterruiz-almendarez3688
@walterruiz-almendarez3688 7 жыл бұрын
+Walter Ruiz old place
@SpectacleofErosXXXIV
@SpectacleofErosXXXIV 7 жыл бұрын
Yhorm came back with red eyes and any being in DS with glowing red eyes have most likely been twisted by the abyss. Not to mention the place is filled with Nashandra-kin: daughters of the Abyss. The Profane Flame may actually be the Dark Soul. It's reasonable because it explains why the children of the dark are all over the jail and in the capital. We even find a weapon in the capital mentioning them.
@walterruiz-almendarez3688
@walterruiz-almendarez3688 7 жыл бұрын
That too. But jailers are different to each other. The ones mostly in the dungeon take your life away as the ones closer to Yorm don't. There was also a child of dark looking over the Frozen Eleum Loyce. Alsanna was a sister of Nasandra. The Frozen Eleum Loyce is frozen like Irithyll. Maybe Irithyll was built on the ruins of the Frozen Eleum Loyce. We may visit the ruins of Frozen Eleum Loyce There is much that the Frozen Eleum Loyce and Irithyll relate. But I also have doubt on it.
@garrettpercell7010
@garrettpercell7010 7 жыл бұрын
+The Love Artist can't be . the dark soul is shattered and scattered amongst humanity. that's why every human is born and becomes a holloew when the fire fades. so it cant ve the dark soul because the dark soul is apart of all himanity
@RelksTheDisturbed
@RelksTheDisturbed 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back around years later to listen to Vaati's vids, enjoying his calm voice and interesting takes on the lore
@theolrazzledazzle5649
@theolrazzledazzle5649 6 жыл бұрын
1 whole year ago yet I am so fascinated by the lore of the dark souls universe. You present it in such an intriguing and emotional manner. Good on ya mate
@TeamOneDay
@TeamOneDay 7 жыл бұрын
All these people talking about "great chest ahead" and touching said chest yet all I want is to shoot a dragonslayer arrow at it to see if it deflates...
@TeamOneDay
@TeamOneDay 7 жыл бұрын
Again...
@werewolf4358
@werewolf4358 7 жыл бұрын
Suggest: Praise fluffy tail ahead!
@TeamOneDay
@TeamOneDay 7 жыл бұрын
Fluffy tail ahead, so try fallacio.
@boneneedle3360
@boneneedle3360 7 жыл бұрын
Team PSB So she would be double fake?
@MekahMenke
@MekahMenke 7 жыл бұрын
Clark Henderson yeah... sneeze and she dies
@noruv3816
@noruv3816 7 жыл бұрын
>talks about berserk >shows 2016 berserk >TRIGGERED
@TheDinofou
@TheDinofou 2 жыл бұрын
>talks about berzerk in 2021 >big sad :(
@BlitzKriegBeta
@BlitzKriegBeta 7 жыл бұрын
I've been finding your videos incredibly educational. Being new to the Souls series as a player, it's nice to be able to go someone with explanations. Or at least the best the fan base can piece together. I could always go to the wiki or whatever, but it's helpful when channels pop up that grab all the scattered pieces for something and put them in one place, as well as explain it properly. I've gone through most of your DS videos in the past couple days and felt it was worth thanking you for all the hard work you put into this.
@therealrandymarsh5840
@therealrandymarsh5840 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised when I fought the soul of cinder and gwens theme started playing absolutely epic
@campernocamping1
@campernocamping1 7 жыл бұрын
Question is, what the hell happened to Flame God Flan?
@XYZsolution
@XYZsolution 7 жыл бұрын
We might find out in the dlc.
@tonyinfinite5174
@tonyinfinite5174 7 жыл бұрын
He was a sham Seriously we don't find church's or cathedrals and even followers dedicated to him in either games
@Dantick09
@Dantick09 7 жыл бұрын
He was a player, left Gwynevere with Oceiros and took off xD
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
He got eaten because he's a flan.
@android19willpwn
@android19willpwn 7 жыл бұрын
there are so many things that COULD reasonably have happened to him, I would be a bit disappointed if we aren't at least given a hint. He could have died, he could have linked the fire, he could have refused to link the fire so Gwynevere left his bum ass, so many possibilities.
@chronocrusade2464
@chronocrusade2464 7 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is this. Gertrude and Rosaria are sisters, which creates a mirror effect. The two brothers who hate the fire and the two sisters who love it. The Mangrub is there because Rosaria wanted someone to come and protect her sister, which makes it tragic for the corpse to be there because the rescue came too late. That is also why the angels are still there. Were the angelic knights successful in rescuing Getrude, they would have already gone. They are guarding her grave, and paying the last respect they can to their beloved princess.
@madbrosheo1514
@madbrosheo1514 7 жыл бұрын
5:20 (Facepalm) I check almost every suspicious wall, and this one of all things eludes me.
@dantex9083
@dantex9083 4 жыл бұрын
These videos really changed my perception of Darksouls. I am thankful for the research and synthesis that you have done to this effect. I actually enjoy watching the videos more than playing now XD.
@talkingbtr-82a76
@talkingbtr-82a76 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a DLC based on the deep rather then the angels. Mostly because I find the deep much more interesting.
@talkingbtr-82a76
@talkingbtr-82a76 7 жыл бұрын
+What Did I Do? One of the DLCs are going to be based on Londer most likely. So there can be only another DLC based on either the angels, the deep or something else.
@baines803
@baines803 7 жыл бұрын
+What Did I Do? an angel covenant would be cool
@Allbendias
@Allbendias 7 жыл бұрын
Remember ashen lake in dark souls 1?
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 7 жыл бұрын
+kira_bane2 Agreed, I don't agree with Vatti that the Gods or the angels are evil.
@Pepitobenito
@Pepitobenito 7 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of things, the DLCs will be quite extensive, so with all the subjects and places we want to see (Londor, the Deep, the angels, and more on Ocelotte), there's a chance they could all be touched on.
@l.k.2355
@l.k.2355 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it was mentioned, what about the Rusted coin and Rusted gold coin? They both depict angels on them. Maybe that has to do with the change in the angels, the turning of luck, the loss of wealth and riches, which is equal to a loss in status? Item descriptions read: Rusted Coin: An old rusted copper coin. Crushing the coin boosts item discovery. Those who have lost their fortunes rely upon this superstitious practice, hoping to retrieve what was once theirs, and more. Rusted Gold Coin: A rusty old gold coin that surely has no currency. Crushing the coin gives a large, if temporary, boost to item discovery. A rich man lost his fortune, but it returned to him twofold. He was swift to squander his retrieved fortune, smugly confident that it was bound to double once again.
@puffinmaster8
@puffinmaster8 7 жыл бұрын
Thats a very good find. I wonder if it has no value as currency due to it being from the time of the way of white/Before Lothric didn't link the fire. That would be interesting.
@l.k.2355
@l.k.2355 7 жыл бұрын
Right! Valueless because of the change of status, the bringing down of the angels, etc.
@Kirokill1
@Kirokill1 7 жыл бұрын
Aren't those about LLoyd?
@l.k.2355
@l.k.2355 7 жыл бұрын
+Kirokill I think in DS 1 for sure the design in DS -III is a little different. But I bunk the Lloyd explanation makes the most logical sense
@Kirokill1
@Kirokill1 7 жыл бұрын
Luan K. They do seem to be relative in description with each other.
@darkmoonblade9072
@darkmoonblade9072 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching lore videos since your dark souls 1 vids you got me hooked to souls Bourne ty !
@madalice5134
@madalice5134 5 жыл бұрын
I'm binging on your videos after someone recc'd then for anyone thinking of playing the Souls games and I'm hooked on the lore now! I got to play a little of Dark Souls 3 after borrowing it, but I had to give it back before I could get too far and picking up my own copy kind of fell to the wayside, but now you've got me dying to play these games! These videos are really awesome. The lore is fascinating and you are a really good narrator.
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
I've thought for a while that the Deacons opposed Rosaria's fingers. When you mentioned the sludge outside her room I thought it likely Aldrich wanted to make her his first meal on his quest to devour the gods. The Fingers succeeded at repelling him, forcing him to return home and ally with Sully, who prepared Gwyndolin and Yorshka for him.
@Mordalon
@Mordalon 7 жыл бұрын
Klimt probably left to join Rosaria before they were corrupted by Aldritch, when they were still followers of the Way of White.
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
GRIFFIIIIIIIIIITH!
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 7 жыл бұрын
I can't help imagine some sort of epic stand-off of Archdeacon Klimt, Leonard, Heysel, Kirk, Creighton, and a shitload of mangrubs vs Aldrich, Sully, Mcdonnell and their Deacon army.
@jynxed66six54
@jynxed66six54 7 жыл бұрын
i cant help but imagine that fight not going well for rosaria. those deacons are a very difficult boss to bea- nah nevermind
@PolarPhantom
@PolarPhantom 7 жыл бұрын
What Did I Do? GRIFFIIIIIITH!
@Richie_Godsil
@Richie_Godsil 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, definitely needed my Vaati fix!
@Kag3yami
@Kag3yami 7 жыл бұрын
Dafuq, how is this comment from 12 hours ago?!
@brokentaaha623
@brokentaaha623 7 жыл бұрын
+Silver Wizard Patreon!
@WhosSenGaming
@WhosSenGaming 7 жыл бұрын
+Silver Wizard patrons get it a few hours early
@Kag3yami
@Kag3yami 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, I get it now, I was confused as hell
@George_Rakkas
@George_Rakkas 7 жыл бұрын
I think patrion users get access to the video 8 hours early silver wizard.
@danielbeezy1988
@danielbeezy1988 7 жыл бұрын
You're videos are therapeutic, keep up the good work!
@CarlstenProductions
@CarlstenProductions 7 жыл бұрын
You are the best! Your theories are SO awesome to sit here and listen too! You sound really inspiring!
@Aerowarrier
@Aerowarrier 7 жыл бұрын
I had an idea watching this vid. I've always believed that the Queen is a daughter of Qwynnevere, not the goddess herself. But something that started to bug me was the possibility of Rosaria being Qwynnevere. They are both goddesses of birth, albeit a different kind. They both are found in what appears to be a bed chamber. They both have many children. But now for the real evidence. As Vaati said, Aldritch may have been trying to break in to her Rosaria's room. His goal in his new life is to devour gods, and what better God to devour than the sister of the very one we find him eating. That could also be why she is trapped in the room, the deacons could have trapped her there but then lost control of that area of the Cathedral. Also, when Leonhardt kills Rosaria, he takes her soul to the place we find the goddess in DS1. He obviously cares for her, and that's an odd place to hide at, so I believe he took her back to her old home, knowing it would bring comfort to Qwynnevere.
@Aerowarrier
@Aerowarrier 7 жыл бұрын
Speaking of her soul, we get Bountiful Sunlight from it. The other Sunlight miracle related to Qwynevere is Soothing Sunlight, said to be granted to her maidens, and is from the Dancer's soul, a person speculated to be a Daughter of the Qwynevere. She would know that miracle. However, Bountiful Sunlight is said to be granted directly from Qwynevere, meaning only her and a select number of people would know it. This could also mean Rosaria is a Daughter, seeing as I imagine Qwynevere would teach her children, but combined with everything else I believe it is evidence she is the Goddess, not just a Daughter of Her.
@comradepoolio7414
@comradepoolio7414 7 жыл бұрын
+Riley H. It's Gwynevere
@Aerowarrier
@Aerowarrier 7 жыл бұрын
+Rykaric yeah I realized that writing the second part in the reply. Too late to change the comment itself cuz I use my phone.
@rangkart
@rangkart 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@Aerowarrier
@Aerowarrier 7 жыл бұрын
One more thing to add. Qwynevere could be tongueless because Gertrude cut her tongue out of her. This would explain why a Man-Grub is near her cage, it could have been sent to kill her, or simply take her tongue out of revenge.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 7 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely astouding. I cannot think clearly about what to comment because I'm do dwelved into your video... I don't know why, but I think this one is my favourite out of your Dark Souls III videos. The news of TWO DLCs, the mention to Berserk, the theory about Gwynevere, the mystery of Gertrude and the angels... this video is so good, so... I don't know! That I can't bring up a praise worthy of it! Just know that this has become part of my Favourites list. Instead, I think I should focus on what I think. This is merely speculation, but what if Rosaria and Gertrude were sisters and shared the same ideology about the linking of the fire? What if that one in the cage really is Gertrude and Rosaria sent one of her Man-grubs as a final guardian to her sister's remains? What if Rosaria commands her followers to invade and pillage as a form of misguided retaliation and revenge for Gertrude's death? I am merely speculating, of course. I do hope the DLCs will bring some small, if only slight clarification to this specific part of the story. The angels must be explained! The lore, revealed! And I know you will be there. I know I can count on you. :) Gwynever as a boss? I'm all in for that! I was so pissed to find out I had been used through all of Dark Souls I, at least let me have *some* sort of payback.
@puffinmaster8
@puffinmaster8 7 жыл бұрын
That is a really good one: Two sisters that share the same ideology, both go about it in different way one went the way of light and the other, the way of dark. They both get hunted and while they both end up getting trapped, they use the man grubs and the angels as messengers back and forth. This could explain why the man grub is at the corpse of Gertrude.the Man grub is there because it has delivered the message but cant leave until he gets a reply.
@SonySteals
@SonySteals 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, you helped me love this game series. All best!
@mompy777CR
@mompy777CR 7 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite videos so far
@MaverickHunterXZA
@MaverickHunterXZA 7 жыл бұрын
You have this "switch" of Light / Dark - Good / Evil in quite a few japanese games. From the Shin Megami Tensei series, where the "Good / Light" ending which is often siding with the christian or jewish incarnation of God often ends in massive calamities and genocides, while siding with the "Bad / Dark" side of Satan often brings Equality between Humans and Demons with it. Or look at Bayonetta, where the Angels are also portrayed as maniacal.
@VaatiVidya
@VaatiVidya 7 жыл бұрын
Hm, I didn't know this was such an established trope. Thanks for elaborating on it
@ocelot-sensei4384
@ocelot-sensei4384 7 жыл бұрын
But they're not so simple as "light/dark". There's Law and Chaos and both of them have good and bad traits in them, although I would rather be part of Chaos alignment but it's not so perfect either, that's why there's Neutral also. But at least they're not as horrible as the White/Nihilist aligment in SMTIV.
@MaverickHunterXZA
@MaverickHunterXZA 7 жыл бұрын
OcelotSensei Yeah, SMT IV was a little...hamfisted with its factions. The light faction came off as some Angel Nazis.
@user-jp3ni6yn7m
@user-jp3ni6yn7m 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like SMT IV hit heavenly beings on the head by Old Testament standards
@Kageryushin
@Kageryushin 7 жыл бұрын
+OcelotSensei The White aren't horrible. They're a reasonable, if a tad melodramatic, reaction to Law (totalitarian extremists) and Chaos (Darwinian assholes) both being absolutely insufferable in SMT4's setting and Neutral inevitably leading to a repeat of the widespread pain and absurdity so prevalent throughout the game. The White simply asserts that humanity doesn't deserve to deal with this shit, though they bring it on themselves through their own weakness. No amount of transient happiness justifies the pervasive suffering throughout the setting - it's _not_ better than nothing. It's preferable to have nothing at all than to be constantly subjected to the dickery of Law or Chaos. So the White choose to go out giving everyone in existence the peace of a serene, dreamless sleep while throwing the ultimate middle finger YHVH's way. The White are no worse than any other alternative, they're just the easy way out. In a lot of ways, they're an extremely novel edition and one of the most profound aspects of SMT4 (which is otherwise a bit lacking in depth, generally). They simply appeal to less players because most of them, experiencing the setting vicariously as they are, have not succumbed to total existential hopelessness in the face of the constant atrocities wrought by Demons and YHVH alike. If you were in SMT4's setting and dealing with it directly, you might feel otherwise. As Albert Camus said, "There is only one really serious philosophical problem and that is suicide. Deciding whether or not life is worth living is to answer the fundamental question in philosophy. All other questions follow from that."
@ryuken3112
@ryuken3112 6 жыл бұрын
I DEMAND A CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND MORGAN FREEMAN. YOU CAN JUST READ SHAMPOO LABELS TO EACH OTHER FOR ALL I CARE!!!!! MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!
@capcom23
@capcom23 5 жыл бұрын
no. it would be yes. no, yes no, you're wrong bla bla
@marleym1126
@marleym1126 5 жыл бұрын
Morgan freeman reading dark souls lore would be awesome
@cheesepuffsthings
@cheesepuffsthings 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, your voice is so mellow and soothing I fell asleep two-thirds of the way through the video.
@Ericthefilo
@Ericthefilo 7 жыл бұрын
Your channel is an essential part of the dark souls experience!
@CzarVentus
@CzarVentus 7 жыл бұрын
to the beserk remark Griffith literally is jesus. Just in a really fucked up way.
@CzarVentus
@CzarVentus 7 жыл бұрын
"Just in a really fucked up way"
@mohawkbrando
@mohawkbrando 7 жыл бұрын
*BERSERK SPOILERS!!!* In a way, Griffith's plan to highjack the world tree to absorb souls kind of reminds me of what some the Old Gods did in Dark Souls. I mean, t kind of looks like his power won't be complete until he kills Casca and Guts so his finding other methods to acquire it. The fact that it makes him look like a saint is the really sick part.
@mohawkbrando
@mohawkbrando 7 жыл бұрын
What Did I Do? In the same way, that the Gods who brought about the Age of Fire are santified.
@Gensolink
@Gensolink 7 жыл бұрын
Guts was considered by farneze as the dark hawk too. but we all now that guts isn't a megalomaniacc who act like a saint when he has a fucking armies of apostles demon even though some of them seems cool though. But yeah I never really paid attention to the duality of guts and griffith i noticed but now that vaati explained i'm like "lol i'm dumb"
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 7 жыл бұрын
First of all Jesus is specific person so we cant call anyone "Jesus" for being servant of god (who Jesus isn't and not every god is God) or because constant resurrections like in case of Optimus Prime. Personally it surprise my how dumb people are with drawing parallels between something and Christianity just because of light association, that is easiest way to become Satan bitch! Asia have own system called Taoism where this association work commonly different (and in fact not that different if someone know anything about real theology.. humanity is fallen and most angels resemble more Cthulhu then hippies). Base of Christianity is that something is good or bad.. that is what matter, not how something look especially because people commonly forget that God give us free will and as result he is as much lord of darkness then light. Just he by himself is good (and no neither light or darkness in Taoism is good.. only harmony).
@nysmoochiepoo
@nysmoochiepoo 4 жыл бұрын
I really like these videos. I wish this man would read me bedtime stories.
@macenblu6
@macenblu6 7 жыл бұрын
man, your lore videos are terrific!
@yergshmerg
@yergshmerg 7 жыл бұрын
Your camerawork is on point man, seriously loving these vids!
@dvdmenyu
@dvdmenyu 7 жыл бұрын
Epilogue: "Also they're flying shrubs that shoot gatling lasers." There, all up to date.
@rogofos
@rogofos 7 ай бұрын
the light and dark themes in souls are a lot closer to daoist yin and yang than Christian good and evil by trying to prolong the age of fire beyond what it was naturally supposed to last, the gods are upsetting the harmony of the universe just because you enjoy the day more than the night doesn't mean an everlasting day would be good but neither day nor night are inherently good or evil, they just are and one is meaningless without the other
@nicolaslosada5108
@nicolaslosada5108 2 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos but this one is one of your best. Great!
@muslimcrusader5987
@muslimcrusader5987 Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting how the Angels use light, whereas Gwyn uses lightning, which is a form of electricity. The Angels are also believes to be evolved forms of the Pilgrims of Londor. So, is light in the DSverse just electricity, or do the Angels have actual, pure light powers, while Gwyn claimed to be the Lord of Light, when in reality he’s based on Thor or Zeus, the god of thunder.
@christopherellis5213
@christopherellis5213 7 жыл бұрын
I love you're videos bro. Can't wait to hear you're speculation on the new dlc. Great job bro.
@georgespurlock5547
@georgespurlock5547 2 жыл бұрын
Something went into Rosaria’s chamber the same way we enter there, pushing open the door. Something happened in there. And whatever was transformed, left. But they were not meant too.. The barred gate was either closed (or constructed!!) while whatever being was in that chamber, gestating. Growing strong. And when it chose to leave, it would not be denied. Whatever left, had hands to open doors inward; but the power to decimate steel bars. What would a Goddess of Rebirth mean to a devilish Man Eater (Aldrich). An infinite food source. An infinite source of power. It is why the bassinets of defenseless children are hung from the rafters. To protect them from slithering things. Slithering things that do not hang from ceilings the way grubs do.. They are being protected from bloated man eaters. Giants were enslaved to operate incredibly huge machinery. Not guard small hallways.. The giants found here also made pacts to assist unkindleds, as the marksman Giant had. Maneaters have no taste for giant, perhaps? But these giants failed, and observed their charges devoured first hand. But They remain. Posture broken and inconsolable. So so many empty, preserved crates with naught but dust in them, once packed with every type of produce regionally imaginable, useless as even a barricade to, or for, those whom have lost the taste for them. They are packed within inconsequential corners. This place is where Aldrich became his most powerful form and the man grubs resemble this. Visit more than 5 times and you risk becoming one. He was close. He was at risk. But he was also greedy…
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 2 жыл бұрын
Rosaria represents something very useful for the godeater, and I'm talking beyond her powers. We know that Rosaria was a goddess, and it makes you wonder why she was spared by Aldrich, as his goal required to consume the old rulers, but one must wonder, what advantage has a goddess over a god? Something that her name gives out, she is the "mother of rebirt" after all, who Leonard describes as "defiled". Rosaria is, to Aldrich, the perfect meat factory.
@zenz0ha472
@zenz0ha472 Жыл бұрын
I think Gertrude was murdered by a Black Hand in her cage, hence the open doors. And as she died, she gave her final prayers, which is why her hands are clasped and her corpse in the kneeling position. Her feathers are scattered across the cage floor, and the Black Hand that killed her hurried his way out, leaving the doors to her cell wide open and forgotten.
@AbdallaYoussefdarksideXD
@AbdallaYoussefdarksideXD 6 жыл бұрын
VaatiVidya thanks man for your awesome videos you made me understand a lot about dark souls and bloodborne keep the awesome videos
@idraigirtm
@idraigirtm 3 жыл бұрын
Still can't believe Vaati predicted both DLCs! "Ashes of Londor" and "The Winged City"
@danny5357
@danny5357 3 жыл бұрын
All right so the take that I get from this and the ringed City DLC is that Prince lothric sent his brother Lorian to poke around the kiln of the first flame and see if he could find anything useful or definitive about the linking of the fire. If Prince lothric was as informed as I want to believe he was, he may have known something about the Dark Soul imprisoned in the ringed City. Lorian's armor and weapon confirm that he did battle against the demon Prince, and assuming that you fight the demon prince in the same location, this places lorian in the dreg heap, where Angels reside. It's not impossible that his sister Gertrude came with him for the purpose of gathering information and perhaps for diplomacy. If she was wounded by Angel feathers, I imagine she would get a very close-up glimpse of that light. Her being wounded would explain why lorien would give up the charge into the ringed City so that when the player makes that charge, the flag they need is still there. Also consider that if she was so taken with angelic light that she wrote it down despite being blind and deaf, if lorian had the first hand account and knew that what she was attacked by was no true angel but rather a false monster, he would tell that Prince lothric about that and of course they would put down any notion of angels being true aspects of the Divine. Lastly, consider how well Dark Souls merges faith and madness. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, she believes.
@IliyaMoroumetz
@IliyaMoroumetz 7 жыл бұрын
Just leaving a comment here to say that I love the Lore vids from the channel and I just got DS3, so, I'm gonna come back when I get through the game and thank you very much!
@jerrtron3911
@jerrtron3911 7 жыл бұрын
dude ur videos are kick ass man, really appreciate these :)
@bronystrongwing
@bronystrongwing 7 жыл бұрын
I only recently realized that Rosaria's room isn't full of coffins, but cradles. Makes sense, considering she represents rebirth.
@TheAshenHollow
@TheAshenHollow 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the first to peg Rosaria as Gertrude? =/
@helloagain2101
@helloagain2101 6 жыл бұрын
Really sick videos! Been listening to your stuff before going to bed, its almost like when my parents used to read me good night stories when I was younger xD Just way cooler topics. Keep up the good work!!!
@OoOoORickardOoOoO
@OoOoORickardOoOoO 7 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you did a walktrough of the game while explaning the characters you meet and the places you see. It would give a full experience of the game. Keep it up! LOve the stuff you put out.
@angelwolfspiret
@angelwolfspiret 6 жыл бұрын
what if the corpse in the cage was in fact the assassins corpse staged to look like GERTRUDE'S???
@khajiitimanus7432
@khajiitimanus7432 3 жыл бұрын
So... Gertrude just adhered to "the sun is a deadly laser" theology, since her plausible mother is Gwynevere, the Princess of Sunlight?
@blackmantis1511
@blackmantis1511 7 жыл бұрын
Just have one thing I want to say about Berserk, "evil" and "good" in that series are kind of subjective, for example the angels you showed, they were actually providing people with shelter, and yes they were punishing people who stepped out of line, but because we see the story is from Guts' perspective they are cast in a evil light, just like Griffith is a hero to the people and set up a literal utopia, but to us he's an evil villain because the story is from Guts' perspective, so good and evil are not just played with, but also unclear and not objective
@danieln6613
@danieln6613 7 жыл бұрын
It would be more appropriate to show the God Hand for this comparison, after all they're often referred to as angels in the series
@blackmantis1511
@blackmantis1511 7 жыл бұрын
+Daniel N Yeah, unless I'm mistaken they're potrayed as archangels right? Especially considering Slan basically embodies lust, which is one of Christianity's seven deadly sins
@arnebobflutschkopf3439
@arnebobflutschkopf3439 2 жыл бұрын
i love your dlc predictions xD
@rjwalker1337
@rjwalker1337 2 жыл бұрын
Epic. I love your storytelling
@cuckmcgee4575
@cuckmcgee4575 7 жыл бұрын
Killed a giant in the Cathedral of the Deep and he exploded into what looked to me, like angel feathers. Explain?
@cammo353
@cammo353 7 жыл бұрын
Vatii if you're Australian as I've been led to believe, why are you doing this to me? It's quarter past midnight mate, I need to get up for work in 5 hours!
@VaatiVidya
@VaatiVidya 7 жыл бұрын
gotta get them sweet american views y'know I have betrayed my people
@CriticalHitRabbit
@CriticalHitRabbit 7 жыл бұрын
well that should be expected from descendant of thieves and convicts, because Australia was a prison island.
@EmperorGladiatuss
@EmperorGladiatuss 7 жыл бұрын
Well, it's 11 am here in Brazil. We thank you for our morning lore video! haha
@bloodfiredrake7259
@bloodfiredrake7259 7 жыл бұрын
it's 5:45 in the evening here
@a10bam420
@a10bam420 7 жыл бұрын
+VaatiVidya We love your sweet betrayal!
@MCdeltaT-
@MCdeltaT- 2 жыл бұрын
Its interesting to come back and notice all the little inaccuracies
@creeben737
@creeben737 2 жыл бұрын
Vatti you are such an amazing content creator
@gard540
@gard540 7 жыл бұрын
Hey vaati, ive been wondering, if this is the last dark souls game, what are you planning on doing when you run out of lore to explore?
@puffinmaster8
@puffinmaster8 7 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine "Prepare to cry" for a while, it may be the last souls game, but its not the last game that From software is making.
@Mangifesta1
@Mangifesta1 7 жыл бұрын
The souls borne esque series will continue in some sense. I think the story of souls 3 is leading to a game perhaps that's exists in an age of dark. It won't be dark souls but it may still be souls.
@elitegaurd52
@elitegaurd52 7 жыл бұрын
Miyazaki already said it's not the last, just for a while he wants to make more mech games
@elitegaurd52
@elitegaurd52 7 жыл бұрын
roll away from even bigger mechs lmao
@elitegaurd52
@elitegaurd52 7 жыл бұрын
thats awesome
@BansheeSVD
@BansheeSVD 7 жыл бұрын
I NEED EDWAD LORE, THE TRUE KING
@therandompizaguy
@therandompizaguy 7 жыл бұрын
The Chosen One*
@larawhitehead4688
@larawhitehead4688 7 жыл бұрын
+Soul Of Cinder "you think this is the chosen one?"
@JamietheEmperor
@JamietheEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you myasaki, for gifting humanity with this gift that keeps on giving
@Stoppskylten
@Stoppskylten 6 жыл бұрын
I like how cealing-Frampts whiskers looked like the shape of wings om the statue later. 🐍
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