Dark Souls PTDE - Low Level, One Shot Boss Challenge - part 3

[@xChefGutz]

Just when I thought I was getting good at Dark Souls, I find a video like this

[@Rockyrules1995]

That Queelaq shot was ridiculous

[@scoofedaraara819]

that great chaos fireball against iron golem as very smart, well played sit

[@RoadRageBill666]

10:30 "You are already dead"

[@koibito334]

I have never, ever, ever seen a lizard drop a slab 😱😱

[@MentalNewb]

I love these videos man. Not only does it show the depth of the game but also the skill level you can have in it.

[@RebelWithoutACause_]

1st off a very Merry Christmas to you Vageta311 - you've inspired me to get both Demon's & Dark Souls, 2ndly wow man, just wow - this challenge run which your showcasing is just on another level man, props to you yeah for engineering this and having the time to share with us. Lastly a massive thanks for all the time and effort you have put into this year by bringing to us these videos - you are definitely a pioneer gamer.. Hope to see many more for 2013. Peace & love & rock on baby, yeeaahh..

[@vageta311]

I may not be able to respond to everyone separately today, so Merry Xmas everyone. Hope everyone gets what they wanted for Xmas, most likely video game related.

[@WhiteLama]

After being pushed down by that Iron Golem a few times, and some issues from Quelog, your kills on them gave me my Dark Soul some rest. Thank you

[@BelovedMonstrosity]

8:08 At least you know she's not bullshitting about "having a headache" now

[@quetzaIcoatI1]

The kellogs kill was amazing, I didn't even know it was possible to one-shot her. You're awesome! Merry Christmas. :)

[@CrestfallenYT]

Queelag do a facepalm while dying lol

[@Marsman6908]

Merry Xmas, love these! You got me in the Dark Souls mood all over again!

[@andreasln2714]

I really enjoy watching this challenge, and looking forward to the next video. Merry Christmas!

[@xslayer88]

Man that quelaag kill was so badass. You should have saved it for the finale, but even so it still made me feel all giddy when you did it.

[@vageta311]

I've noticed on some of the large weapons that the F+R2, R2 and plunging R2 do the exact same damage as one another. Note plunging without having the special animation doesn't do extra damage, it is essentially a fancier version of the F+R2. I used to always try to do the F+R2 with the great club until I realized the standing R2 is identical damage wise. I didn't try jumping due to being difficult to time. Hitting her on the decline with a standing R2 was more consistent.

[@vageta311]

My points listed on the top right are cumulative since the first video. It's essentially my score. To know how many I've used just subtract 1 from my level. ie; I'm level 20 so I've used 19 points as I started at level 1. Anytime I level I'll show it on video so you guys are aware. I'm not entirely sure if the roar works on literally all attacks, but since I don't have the dusk crown it was worth a shot when fighting stray demon. Humanity went into getting Chaos Covenant +2 for chaos storm.

[@TheBrowney95]

That's some determination! Keep these videos coming, i'm going to have to attempt this myself! And Merry Christmas :D

[@MrAidenMurphy]

Merry Christmas! Love your videos man, keep up the good work :)

[@Clovericious]

That Iron Golem kill was really nice! Good going, can't wait to see you go up against Gwyn!

[@vageta311]

Sure, but I'm guessing the invasions will be very slow, not to mention at low levels you may not win enough to be faster than farming them normally. With my method you can kill 150-180 drakes an hour and even if the drop rate is something like 1 in 10(or even 1 in 5) it'd be faster than invasions.

[@vageta311]

You noticed the pink hair eh? He was originally going to be called Natsu but I changed my mind when I was at character creation.

[@EarthboundX]

Good tip on that Drake farming. Or not, tried it 5 times now, and 5 times I've died from the falling damage.

[@BluePieNinjaTV]

I think that is why he chugged an estus before plunging backwards off the tower

[@danielrentube]

Merry Christmas, this is just so epic

[@JadKni]

I slow-clapped in real life when you killed Quelaag.

[@dragunz8]

Hi Vageta, as always a master class to watch, seeing that flying hydra too ! sick ! this challenge manage to get me back in DkS, I cannot record but I started to gather the gear for hyper mode. I used your shortcut to get to lower burg and open the shortcut, I will try to rely on resin since I am no way near your skill to take on the catacombs. maybe not enough damage but will see. Merry X-mas !

[@vageta311]

I used the great club in my test character but it wasn't doing as much damage. Sometimes the AR doesn't match up to the actual damage you get due to the moveset. My original plan was to simply use the greatclub as soon as I got enough points, 7 is all I'd have needed, then switch up to something better but in the end it wasn't worth the effort for the short time. The reason the hammer was able to one shot Quelaag is due to the reach. That R2 attack has similar vertical reach to a halberd.

[@vageta311]

It wouldn't have quite been enough, but even if it was it would have locked up a ring slot which I needed. Chaos spells take 2 slots and I still needed PW so using the darkmoon seance ring was the only way to do it without wasting levels.

[@L0lboi]

Sen's Fortress, the tar pits in the bottom. You can get there jumping off from the first walkway you encounter with the large swinging axes.

[@vageta311]

I've seen that one, I thought that you were talking about a true one shot kill. There still is not one for manus or artorias that I'm aware of, though I think getting them in two is quite doable.

[@HazeAnderson]

I tried the backward jump falling attack and it worked the first time!! (Beginner's luck!) Second time left behind one live drake that chomped the remaining health out of me ... third time left me in the middle of three live drakes, that chomped the remaining health out of me ... this is fun stuff man! Thanks!! :)

[@mattzgillz]

I can't say this with complete certainty, but I think vageta dropped us all a hint when replayed his hit on quelaag in slow motion. If you hit her body directly (the naked woman's body, not the spider) you get bonus damage. I'm guessing he used the arc of the greathammer's attack to hit her body directly.

[@jacobjeremy7208]

He said in part one; you're allowed the point if your hit causes them to fall off the edge, kicking or running around to make them fall doesn't count however.

[@Somethodox]

Seems like Artorias is the key to doing this challenge most efficiently. Looking forward to seeing how you plan on taking him down. Hope you've been enjoying the holidays!

[@vageta311]

Please link the 4 Kings, Manus and Artorias one shot kills for my viewers to enjoy.

[@rotoninja]

This Scale farming bit is awesome, and it's so true how when you do farm you refine the method each time.

[@vageta311]

I already have a full time job and work damn near 12 hour days when I include commuting so I'm not in it for the money honestly. However if I ever lost my job I'd consider something like that.

[@Adgenar]

Apparently that was a bug that they patched in the PTD content. I haven't specifically tested it but it doesn't seem to drain as fast.

[@Lifeless9619]

Theres an animation of his you have to trigger where he tosses his head back, before he will fall. If he never triggers that animation he never falls. Im pretty sure the animation gets triggered at 70% of health. So as long as you can pound him hard with your one hit you should be able to drop him like that. He never falls if you dont take enough health off though (tested w/ 32 dex +15 iaito 2 hits, no test for high damage.)

[@vageta311]

Theoretically yes, though I don't think my viewers would be happy with me copping out considering the whole point is it's a challenge. Meaning I personally will find a way to defeat him within the spirit of the challenge.

[@spookythebro]

For the next video, try doing this challenge with the HUD off. It would be fun to see.

[@nahxela]

Oh, yeah, I meant just for speeding up Drake farming by a bit. Gotta save all those frames. You could break it once you finished farming them, but since it wouldn't help, oh well.

[@B1ackSunEmpire]

if you check the rules of the challenge it saids that " Boss fights with multiple opponents allow for 1 hit on each to count for a "one shot". However you aren't allowed 2 hits on each boss for a "two shot" kill. In that situation you must still one shot at least one of them to get the point " he even explain you the rule to the challange in his first 2 video's .

[@SgtIronbeak]

Can't kill them with a fall using -only- the fall. The Iron Golem needs to be attacked for him to stumble off the arena. Like, he also said that you could parry/riposte to cause them to fall down and it'd count apparently. The fireball he'd used is the reason the golem fell.

[@dragunz8]

Hi Vageta, I finally farmed the scales and tried the queelag fight. I used different weapons to no avail then I decide to use the same hammer you used with everything activated, power within, redstone, dragon roar , I am barely doing 2k damage in melee. I guess I'll take the single point and move on. anyway that was a mighty blow.

[@Salgandarin]

I love how this game has kept me interested since release date

[@Euphoniumplayer29]

The orange shirt part is just Vageta's skin. If you look closely, he has only 1 potora earring on. So it's actually Vageta about to fuse into Vagito.

[@TOCaneoja]

6:50 is one of the best things I've ever witnessed in Dark Souls. Thank you Vegeta, Prince of all Saiyans.

[@vageta311]

It does in my book. It's only useful a few times in the challenge, but yes it's allowed. I did it on Capra and Taurus in the first video.

[@TachibanaRealEstate]

Yes you can. You don't always have the damage boost, it only occurs for about 5 seconds after you do the dragon roar. The dragon head/body goes away after you die.

[@Erekaith]

You can also farm the silver nights in anor londo whitch they are located in the castle on the bonfire area

[@vageta311]

Yep 1 level per point, I just don't spend them right away since I'm careful to use them only when needed.

[@mitharlic]

He differentiated between different types of falls. Kicking and enemy off a cliff or tricking them to jump off themselves does not count because you didn't technically make an attack because you dealt no damage. However, he said backstabbing an enemy off of a cliff (think Darkroot Dark Knight) it's fair game since your single attack caused them to die. So the Golem kill was just fine according to those rules.

[@Raymhein]

Would you consider showing your total points racked up and how many you've used to date? Does the Dragon Roar only increases physical attack damage and not Pyromancy damage? And, lastly, was your hit on Quelaag a "critical" hit (since you hit her in the head, which I presume is a "weak spot")? Where'd your 17 Humanity go? Lol. LOL, nice kill on the Golem! That was epic! Part 4, Part 4! This series is one of my favourites out of all of the ones you've done so far!

[@Bosco2196]

Can't wait to see how far you're able to get.

[@IronMooRe]

The Iron Golem moment was awesome. DID NOT see that coming.

[@Lifeless9619]

Wouldnt jump attacking have been just as efficient though? Also, i believe the Dark Souls wiki shows by how many points a weapon scales, not just its letter grade.

[@anoynymous100]

he said you weren't allowed to kick them to fall to their death, but you were allowed to throw them off with an attack

[@IanSKS]

Two questions; 1. Does using the bellowing dragoncrest ring boost the power of pyromancies? 2. Does a fire tempest with only 3 casts left do less damage than a fire tempest with 20 casts?

[@Destinite462]

If fire tempest/fire storm counts as one shot then it's definitely possible to "one-shot" those bosses(there are already links for artorias I believe)

[@vageta311]

Of course. It took me many tries to get Quelaag perfect like that. If you don't kill in one shot then just homeward bone or die and try again.

[@nahxela]

If you put on the ring of FaP, would you have enough equip burden to walk at a faster speed? I imagine not, since the Demon Greataxe is pretty heavy, but just worth considering.

[@Destroy2777]

Speaking of the door to New Londo (glitch alert): Once, I had a drake fly into the door and get completely stuck inside it. It could not move; it could not attack; I could attack it. Just worth mentioning.

[@Halsyan]

8:45 still a legend for this

[@vageta311]

I think if you just sit there while he's hanging on, he'll eventually fall off on his own since he can't simply jump back from where he started. I believe that's what he was getting at.

[@TheDa21Man]

That Iron Golem kill was just simply gorgeous

[@MikeHesk742]

That Quaelag kill was so sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!! You used the asylum demon hammer thing right? Think i recognise it, but it was my first ever character so it's hard to remember

[@Dexpyro]

Loved that little vegeta speech after quelaag lol Also I remember you saying you did that 4 kings speedrun challenge waaaay back a few months ago, do you happen to have any vids of that? I still cant imagine beating that 19 or so minute time you said you did :D

[@tigerboar10]

He meant that he can not just kick an enemy off a ledge to get the kill. He would have to do damage to move them towards the edge and hope they fall off with that one / two attack(s).

[@Ratt611]

ya slabs drops for me all the time from crystal lizards. Said no one ever.

[@TheTrueGOATS]

I've been thinking, wouldn't the Great Club +15 be better to use than the Demon Axe +15? It weighs less, has 337 base damage with A scaling strength, and only requires 19 strength to two hand. I was wondering because I don't know if the S scaling makes the axe stronger than the club.

[@jackofdarkblades6640]

i wonder how many people followed what you do until you place the lordvessel and then got dark magic and used that such as dark bead and dark flame or even just crystal soul arrow

[@vageta311]

Took me a few tries to say the least. The pillars had to be in just the right places for them to hit that many times.

[@vageta311]

Item discovery doesn't work on lizards the same way as other creatures. They already have guaranteed item drops and to my knowledge item discovery only works on "chance to drop" not "chance to drop something good". Merry Xmas to you as well.

[@TheTrueGOATS]

He explained this, he doesn't care about what qualifies as a miniboss or not, he only included them in the challenge because he wanted to make leveling up easier with his "right to level up" rule. He said there are enough minibosses on the list at the wiki to count for points, so he won't add anything else to the list.

[@techdeth]

Vegeta, please upload videos every day, i love you man.

[@PentaKilla]

Only the ash lake one, the one in darkroot can't fly as it has nowhere to jump to, however, if you use the right gameshark you can actually get it to jump to the river in darkroot garden (The one that is there when you climb up the ladder) looks really stupid.

[@BestAtNothing]

So much win in one video.

[@TheSilverPalm]

First of all, Merry Christmas! I love your videos man, taught me everything i needed to know about dark souls. I have a proposition for you, can u do a Lord Blade Ciaran run? It would be fantastic to see how u cope with only real dual wield set and that fantastic armor of hers. Gear should be obvious, but just in case: Lord Blade armor set, hornet ring, dark wood grain ring, right hand: Dark Silver Tracer, left hand : Gold Tracer. Hope i'll see this one, and once again merry xmas!!!

[@DMWScorpian]

could you invade people using the dragon covenant to get the scales instead of farming

[@KingCheesyPants]

Hey, once you're done with this character, you should do some invasions with him to see if you can get any good kills.

[@vageta311]

No there are some bosses that cannot be 1 shotted even with max stats using the best equipment and tactics. They simply have too many hit points and defense to break through. Quelaag would be easy enough to one shot given no other limitations, she was just a major roadblock in this specific challenge. That said I'm sure I'm going to have to settle for some 2 shot kills in the near future, but who knows I might be able to at least complete the game.

[@vageta311]

This was on PC so there was no previous patch, however I could have just used cheat engine to give myself 99 scales in 30 seconds. The point was to do it legit and offer tips for others that wish to do the same.

[@scjackson36]

happy holidays just thought of another enemy that doesn't respawn but you probably already mentioned it - the toxic dart guys in blighttown

[@Balt0kx]

Didnt he say that he couldnt do things such as kicking and what not to push them off of cliffs however he could repost etc that would lead to them falling off, I imagine its the same principle however thats just my opinion.

[@ingleberthumperdink3824]

I smiled as soon as you 1-shot Quelaag ... was like 'NO WAAYYY' ... Well Done you truly got this nailed bud & believe me I'm hard to impress ... PraiseTheSun \0/

[@ar3s35]

I am confused. I thought that the upgraded flame drained the health more while adding on bonus?

[@asdknight]

Hey Vegeta! I started recording my own attempt at this challenge when you posted your first video about it and it has been pretty smooth sailing until I ran into miss Quelaag. Not really asking for advice, but do you think she can be killed in one shot without the Dragon Torso Stone buff? I'm lazy so I really wouldn't want to do the Drake Valley farmfest.

[@Narelon_]

Basically, if you hit an enemy and cause them to stagger themselves off a cliff/drop it's allowed, but if you continually kick them to knock them off or run around trying to make the AI run off the edge it's not allowed :)

[@threelettersyndrom]

What happened to the other golems in Sne's Fortress? That could've been another three points, and they're not that hard to kill.

[@Jwyck101]

Love watching the golem fall of the edge so good.

[@BlackEyedJester]

Okay, so I have a slight problem. I am doing this challenge and I decided to do most of the fights with melee, And I have this question. While fighting Pinwheel, I accidentally lost track of him and hit one of the clones first, Then One shotted Pinwheel himself, Would I earn one or two points for that?

[@BigAlsRSShack]

You killed the Iron Golem almost as fast as Iron Tarkus, might have to summon you next time.

[@ArcBelgaias]

so i started my one shot challenge. and its going great so far. im almost to quelaag. and im using you as a reference. but im trying to figure out a strategy for my set up. i got the titanite pole. and want to one hit with that. but i cant find the right combo. with my boosters. including power within. i can take her to less than a millimeter of health. any ideas?

[@Raymhein]

The reason jumping off the tower forwards to kill the 3 drakes at once doesn't work is because your weapon won't hit the one closest to the tower twice. If you notice how they're clumped, you'll only hit that close drake as you're falling and not when the weapon actually hits the ground. The Hydra flies? Lol. Wow. Why'd you switch to the Demon Great Hammer? Better than the Demon Great Axe?

[@28Pluto]

It's a soundbite from "Dragon Ball Z." The character Vegeta says it when he becomes a super Saiyan for the first time. This character is where also he gets his KZbin name and thumbnail from ;)

[@budafuka]

That is the greatest Iron Golem kill I've ever seen.

[@budafuka]

The first time I saw the Hydra fly in Ash Lake scared the shit out of me.

[@hondragrid]

Is this still possible after they tweaked Power Within's self damage with any type pyromancy hand/glove?

[@Lifeless9619]

like i said, he falls when his head tossing animation is finished, so you could have got the last handful of hits in while the animation was going if you werent specifically looking for it. It invalidates the test unfortunately.