WOW .. How can a rocker arm do this? Can we repair this S4 B9 engine after such a huge damage ?

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Don't forget to leave me a comment why we start the engine up etc. etc. But ! This car was delivered with tapping noise and heavy smoke coming from the exhaust . We start the engine only to listen to it and try to identify what can be wrong . Once the oil filter was out we spotted some metal debris on it but the engine oil had almost no contamination . After we started taking it apart we were actually shocked how this engine killed itself ... Question is after all this , is ti possible to build it up again?
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[@mazdaman1286]

As a recently retired mechanic I am bewildered as to how we have come to having very expensive cars whose engines have components made of crap. I have worked on old Aston Martins ,Jaguars XK120,140,150's old BMW , Mercedes ,VW Audi everything, through to modern cars. I rarely remember rockers breaking , on a PSA hdi engine when the cambelt broke , the rockers, snapped along a weak point saving the engine. A series mini's hitting fantastic revs after a missed gear change...and ...nothing happened. I remember a VW employee telling me that the design life of their products was five years...Then you trade it in for a new one. It was amazing that timing chains became a service item, then the sprockets , now made of sintered material that hook and wear . Then finally roller rockers.... I have seen duplex chains on BMW and Merc engines with virtually no stretch after mega miles with just ordinary service intervals and old mineral oils . I enjoy your channel , but despair of the engineering and build quality of modern German cars.

[@tonyc2837]

I worked at a main Datsun dealership late 70’s early 80’s for 7 years. The bodywork was awful but I never knew of a single duplex timing chain fail in all that time.

[@lavina58]

🙌🙌🙌👍😊

[@darkside8072]

Totally agree,being from similar era,modern vehicles are a 100k miles and they‘throwaway items’,can’t get my head round them Ford “wet “ timing belts 😱😂😂 Duplex timing chains rule ✌️

[@jezrougan]

Its why I often say I'll keep my 1994 ABY S2 over any new Audi

[@khalidacosta7133]

Yeah but duplex chains create too much friction, which decreases power and increases fuel consumption. Then you have longer oil changes (fuel dilution). The sprockets also have fewer teeth than the older engines (increased torque transfer on the chain + added chordal action). All this makes the chain fail far quicker. I don't buy German as they put all the money into the interiors (which are fantastic) but then skimp on absolutely everything else... and never anything with a timing chain. PSA HDi engines are quite possibly the most reliable engines we have in the UK.. even if there is a timing chain inside of it!

[@tidysampler585]

The work Vag Technic do is truly showing how maintenance should be carried out. Professionally. So now, I would never trust a dealership with such important work! Keep up the great content 👍

If someone told me some years ago that a workshop youtube channel would be entertaining, I would doubt it very much….. but you have proven that it can be very entertaining indeed!! Also being engineer I also learn stuff…. Also I think the trick is the humour!! Keep it up! 👍

[@davidstocking1622]

Just £1 Million later it will be all good.great indepth detail. Loving your work VAG Technic❤

[@jamest5149]

Hopefully someone will make some uprated billet rockers for these engines. I still believe the oil is a key contributor in most modern engine failures… oil change regime is far to long and needs to be reduce by at lease 50%. These long service intervals are there for the lease companies and the ecco demands imposed by governments. Do yourselves a favor and do a first service at 500-1000 miles and then oil changes every 6000 miles max there after… the chains, guides, cams and bearings will love you.

[@VMac3]

Great as usual! These rocker arm issues are still making me question wether or not a B9 is even worth the purchase anymore, crazy job

[@stephenrichardson6105]

Me to, always fancied one Been looking at BMW’s after my son got a M140i and from what I’ve been reading them engines are bullet proof compared to these

[@samsonparreira2535]

Depends on the production date. I have a b9 S4 dated 3/19 and have the updated ones that are not prone to failure. Although a lot of people say 7/19 is the cutoff date. There are some other cases of S4's produced before 7/19 with the more durable bearings. You can easily check with a borescope to make sure. Of course then you still have PCV and water pump failure looming in the future 😂

[@VMac3]

@@samsonparreira2535 Hahha oh jesus so I guess you have to brace yourself either way 😆

[@macdaddy1234ism]

@@samsonparreira2535what are my chances with 10/2018 door sticker bro ?!?!?!?

[@1210mk5g]

@@stephenrichardson6105 I was cross shopping a m140i and B9 S4 back in 2019, glad i ended up ordering a 140i. I still love Audi cars but they definitely have some serious design issues.

[@1981zayn]

Thank you for update, had a new 2018 S4 and was told it was the last of the V6 available in the UK, the best experience for a few years without any faults. a shame that Audi won't sell the S4 V6 in the UK but will everywhere else.

[@MrTopdeadcentre]

Loved the start of the video that’s not the drone pilots first rodeo 😎

[@AUDIDOIT]

Honestly I think Audi are building their engines with “stock” tolerances in mind more than ever, to save money. The moment you map a car you are messing with so many variables, heat, pressure and force. Reason after many years of tuning my cars, my A8’s engine will not be mapped, just serviced properly with the best of everything, and I drive her properly and hard when up to temperature. If ever I want a faster Audi than I have I will buy one, which incidentally I do not. I am also aware rocker arms can fail on non tuned cars too. Brilliant video thank you guys..🙌

[@24bellers20]

I’ll wait until 2020 ones come down to a better price. Good video again.

[@ericlee3421]

Seems there are so many parts of an Audi engine that needs special attention!

[@mertazaanwari1010]

please show us how you re-time the engine and how you remove and install the new rocker arms please :)

[@davidvonslingshot]

gorgeous red doberman!

[@cwmbc]

When we had engine or gearbox issues with Subaru. We used to check the engine ecu for the parameters before it failed... certanly showed up a few standing start burn ups to us.

[@wookiewookster1214]

Love the stripping down and the detailed examination, great channel, thanks 🙏

[@gingerdude94]

Sweet drone footage

[@JBurford]

Love your videos, love you editing mate. Never stop being you. Mhmm Mhmmm Mhmmm *helicopter noises*

[@Slapbladder]

lol loved the start "mmmm, mmmm, mmmm" so we have gone from the indestructable 16V VAG engines.....VR6 etc to these....i am crapping myself as i own a 2016 Audi A4 Avant B9 3.0Tdi 272hp CRTC model.....owned the car since last Sep 23 and just did my first service after 8000 miles.....the oil was ok, nothing in the oil filer but the services in the book were all Audi and the Air Filter and cabin filter look like they have been in there for years! I will be booking in with Vag Technic for the oil pressure map soon!

[@Salmon_Rush_Die]

"None of the owners are brave enough to full-send." lmao

[@billybunter2710]

You're videos are great, thank you

[@Peter.A-A]

Loool. all the ohhhhh, hmmmmm, aha......love it. Like al other things with your videos. I am 110% Audi man, 60yo. Have had 7 Audi´s mostly A4 TDI, because I work as a sale rep. I change to company car and now have a Q4, with almost everything that one could get as extra. Done 38K happy km in it. My wife have a 2019 Audi A3 Cabriolet 35 TFSI.done 65K. She loves it. As I understand, we should be aware of cam-chain, and I will have it changed before 85K km. Since I start to look at your videos about 1½ year ago. I will never, like NEVER get a 6-cylindre Audi. Of all the videos I have seen, past many year, I have never seen or heard anyone say this 6cyl, Audi engine is ROCK-Solidt. Keep them coming, and I will stay away from anything other than 4cyl Audi´s, or keep my Audi EV forever.

[@enesfazlic6017]

"Mmmmmmmmm" Got me every time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leehartley1667]

Good video mate 👍

[@jezrougan]

😅😂 maybe we'll try an straighten the loosie goosie bendy conrod 😅😂

[@lavina58]

Awesome video and job 🙌🙌🙌😊👌👍🍀

[@E8146419]

After watching these amazing videos from VAG it puts me off from ever owning an AUDI or am I wrong ? Did the owners mistreat their cars ?

[@denisavalon3.5]

Hello, can you tell me the numbers of the rocker and rocker arms, which ones you install with reinforced bearings S4 B9? Thank you

[@garysimpson3900]

The motto "Vorsprung Durch Technik" appears to be a thing of the past. Driving a modern Audi the Reinhardt's may not even make it to Spain let alone the sunbeds before the Schmidt's & the Muller's.

[@Johnny16781]

Great work once again, l know you can fix it 😁

[@tahirotahir]

I always watch your videos specially the engine drop / engine strip down videos. One question I always wonder that when you drop the engine as you did for this S4, do you always have to "extract/empty out" the refrigant/cooling or disconnect the A/C system and then refill it when putting back the engine or there is a work around in these Audi? But I see AC compressor is hanging soooooooo, does it means A/C system still intact and loop remains closed?

[@VAGTechnic]

Some Yes some no

[@NewEnglandImports]

sweet opening shot, what's your drone setup?

[@VAGTechnic]

Avata 2

[@sebastianlorenzo4935]

Love the 🚁 that was brutal 😂

[@juanherrera2672]

Mr Vag Tech . What are your thoughts on oil in booster pipes ? Catch can ok ?

[@tam1381]

Audi make the "K" Series Rover engine look not so bad after all.

[@montage12333]

The rover k series engine is not a bad engine it’s actually really top level engineering for its time , it’s bmw using cheap elastomer head gaskets instead of MLS saic actually got recardo to re engineer the rover k series and continued its use until 2016

[@martincurobert109]

2018 A7 with 3.0 ea839 engine, I”m in danger :))

[@markhancox5475]

Audi engines-there’s a glass and a half in every one 😂

[@Martin.ac.85]

On 1.8t 20v platform wosner pistons used to crack. Just a heads up, I’m sure you’ve done your research

[@Evo836]

Ha! 'the pistons have a hobby to crack from time to time. That's fair and the rocker arms also have this hobby.

[@jabberwockytdi8901]

People who carry on driving car that makes a tapping noise and don't get it checked have their heads in the sand and pay the price. That must have been making a pretty horrendous noise for a while.

[@brianmorrison3937]

I have a 2018 Audi A4 diesel 1968cc . 12,000 miles do I need to get the rocker arms replaced and could you supply a rough cost to do a preventative change . Love your videos they are very informative

[@truckermal]

These are S4's you thick plank.....

[@nicholaslewis7148]

I notice most of the videos are on the v6’s. Do you feel like the 4 cyl Audi engines suffer from the same amount of engine problems?

[@MM-tt7hy]

Depends what year you’re looking for. There was a time where 4 cilinders suffered from oil control ring and timing chain issues. But the current models are okay I think.

[@raycollington4310]

That’s a lot of secondary damage for a rocker failure. What would you say is the engine mileage where the risk starts to warrant the rocker replacement job? Thank you.

[@Peter-o]

Clients allways drive their car in normal manner, nothing crazy, slightly pressing the accelerator and engine just exploded. In my opinion, I am audi owner they were balling in the speed lane in kick down, on the tuned car with the stock components, and there you have it

[@draganeldic5067]

have a s5 b9 end of 2018 and I don't have any problems with the car. I change the oil and filter every 8000 km and without stupid tuning I guarantee that will last.

[@lifeslooker]

@@draganeldic5067nothing wrong with tuning it, just how it’s one and really owners need to recognise and listen to their car ( the engine ) more. Don’t just run it ragged and eff it up. Tuning saves money when done right, eg fuel efficiency and more mpg, but if you’re gonna tune it stupid then you’ll pay stupid money to repair it.

[@Mac_F87]

Good imagination there but the rocker arms are well known to fail at stock power levels on the B9 S4. So there is a very good chance he was just taking it easy.

[@draganeldic5067]

As they said in the video that the car was not serviced regularly because I believe that everything would not have fallen apart just like that.​@@Mac_F87

[@Mac_F87]

@@draganeldic5067 ok, go back and watch all the other videos on the channel about rocker arm bearings failures…then come back and tell us what was said.

[@liaanjoone930]

Awesome content,how good is the ea888 and the 1.4 tsi.

[@Lexusman65]

Heard/read a lot about chains on the 1.2 and 1.4.Mainly poor servicing.

[@liaanjoone930]

@@Lexusman65 Thank you,i will be cautious before buying.The 1.4 tsi is surprisingly quick

[@Lexusman65]

@@liaanjoone930 Yeah i had a Skoda Rapid (lol) with a 1.2tsi and that was quick.

[@liaanjoone930]

@@Lexusman65 yes i like the acceleration,it feels like a bigger engine

[@jeanfrancoismenard705]

Question for VAG or anyone know. On a Porsche Macan S 2020 with the 2.9L turbo if im good it's the same engine of the Audi S4. Correct me if im wrong. So Porsche Macan having the same rocker arm issues ? And should be replaced as soon as we can to not waking up with a blown up engine. Im from Canada. Tks guys.

[@VAGTechnic]

Not after 2019 no

[@michaskrodzki1060]

Niezłego bałaganu potrafi narobić taka dźwigienka. Kupiłem s5 2018 z przebiegiem 100 tyś km i jestem na etapie wymiany dźwigienek zaworowych zanim będzie za późno. Jaką lepkością oleju najbezpieczniej zalać ten silnik ?

[@paulm3538]

Can’t be England - the sun is out…

[@psilocybe4623]

if u decide to go for a vacation, ur welcome in my home in green hills croatia....lol

[@wolfgangw.8243]

Small part, big damage! Are the rocker arm failures only happening in the S4 or also in the RS4?

[@VAGTechnic]

Yezzzz

[@MecaniculAndrei]

Hello Sir , TOP !! where do you buy the blue shelf? for storing car components?

[@VAGTechnic]

Warehouse tools

[@MecaniculAndrei]

@@VAGTechnic thanks , a link please

[@khalidacosta7133]

10:44 - Did you say the rocker arms are from Aldi or Audi? Makes a lot of sense if from Aldi to be fair... 🤣🤣

[@Wayne.R]

Right, so the car is a premium grade audi - S4. not created to be driven like a motorway salesman in a modern diesel. They're built to be hussled. I cannot believe that a modern day performance Audi, has to suffer these issues. Makes it embarrassing to own, not to mention the cost of repair. Unreal. It seems that if you own any post 2015 Audi, standby for eye watering break downs. Why would anyone want one? A friend has just traded his Jag 4x4 SUV, for an S5......Why?!? I am an A7 owner, of several years, but can't wait to get rid of it, and go back to BMW. Great content as always Tomas, and equally amazed that the Audi dealer couldn't identify it's issue. Putting it all down to the map...Give me a break!

[@-DC-]

Remap is always an easy out for any Manufacturer

[@BenDeSwert666]

mhm mhm... hmmmmm... hilarious 😂😂

[@Interdimensional27]

I loved that part!

[@marvins6580]

Is there some safe manufacturing date after which those reconstructed rocker arms have been built in ?

[@Thatblue.s4]

I think cars manufactured after june/July 2018 have the updated rocker arms

[@Johan_Degen]

Are you going to have that crankshaft balanced if you decide to re-use it?

[@VAGTechnic]

Yes currently in the machine shop

[@mephisto212]

Do you ever see damage like this in engines that have clearly had the oil changed regularly?

[@mephisto212]

The reason I ask is because when I look at carfax reports on used audis, the dealers always just put 'scheduled maintenance' until about 50-60k miles when they finally add in 'oil change'. Seeing these kinds of failures on even stock audis makes me think very likely audi dealers are massively defrauding people by not changing their oil even at their extended intervals.

[@macdaddy1234ism]

What’s the build date sticker or production from year ??

[@matthewfoster9755]

What type of oil should be used in these engines ? I heard the standard oil is not good enough . Too thin ?

[@VAGTechnic]

5w40

[@begoneblue6295]

Hey VAG did you say 2019 RS5 are safe from the rocker arm issue?

[@VAGTechnic]

Yes positive

[@begoneblue6295]

@@VAGTechnic many thanks for the reply! 🙏

[@rodrigodiaz2195]

How much do you typically charge for a rocker arm replacement on an s4/rs4? Sorry if you get this question alot

[@VAGTechnic]

3950£

[@cabottaxi]

Shocking condition for such a car which is not really that old.

[@donalheaiy2087]

These cars are driven like race cars

[@Nyx_88888]

no they just have parts issues

[@macdaddy1234ism]

What !! Was the build date sticker on the door ?!?!?!?!????

[@stevemorris289]

I have a 2012 B8.5 Supercharged. Do these engines suffer the rocker arm problem?

[@VAGTechnic]

No

[@yrichard6404]

Does 18/19 rs4 avant have the same rocker arm issue?

[@worthysvodafone4345]

Get to about 15.00 in the video - yes.

[@michaelanderson2689]

Can that engine block with the hole in be welded? To save the owner money!

[@t.grizzly112]

Another timebomb exploded

[@erissitone]

Those rocker arms look so fragile!

[@danielzaccardelli5976]

Do the early B9 2.0 (A4) have this issue too?

[@VAGTechnic]

No

[@fw1421]

You couldn’t give me an Audi. Long going reputation for mechanical problems.

[@Peter-o]

Is there any ballance shafts in these v6 tfsi engines?

[@Peter-o]

​@@StefanFinster why do I have one in diesel v6 2006 year of production, a4 3.0 tdi ASB engine

[@dineshd1793]

Still no 4.0TT (C7 gen) videos 😢

[@VAGTechnic]

Soooooon

[@mbrylewski]

Is this the car you collected from Audi?

[@Winser_S]

This will be the reason why Ill be selling my 18 advant S4 before the ticking bomb goes boom boom. . .

[@decky9995]

Why there is no a class action against Audi. Even if this is happening beyond warranty, this level of faulty design would fail to meet any definition of "reasonable reliability" based on consumer laws in the UK

[@leetori1]

Can you weld the hole?

[@chrispy104k]

Starting to look like tuning an Audi is not such a great idea unless you do it right by building an engine to handle the increase in power, ie, good rods and forged pistons. Cars are built to a budget and that means that the engine needs to be built to its share of the overall budget. So most of them have chocolate pistons.

[@118CustomDiecastModelCars]

You should use license plate covers, less work at video edit. Cuz we still saw the license plates even with blurrings. Make 4-5 units with a nice VAG Technic logo and design 😉

[@VAGTechnic]

😀 done my best , premier never cover it good

[@6CylAddict]

I’m looking at a car with a 09.17 date am I in the clear?

[@plugman1963]

Love your videos, hate your choice of music!

[@Interdimensional27]

I liked the music in this one. Banging drum n bass!

[@koucz87]

Which year was this s4?

[@dave6445]

I love watching these strip downs and seeing the catastrophic damage caused by faulty parts. It reminds me why I drive a Ford and NOT an Audi! 😀

[@Rol1Co]

Lucky that ecoboost has no problems 😂

[@dave6445]

@@Rol1Co I don’t have ecoboost engine 2.0 Diesel mine is!

[@Rol1Co]

@@dave6445 have one here with a cracked piston, 2011 , drove a 1.9Tdi for 14 years without any engine issue. With other words, every brand has its own problems, maintenance is key, if you won't do that you have to pull the money tree.

[@dave6445]

@@Rol1Co Mine is a 2015, 2.0 Tdi, serviced on the dot every time, doesn’t miss a beat, auto too! Pre wet belt engine

[@myz06rocks]

I'll take an M30B34 with a 5 speed and exit the chat :)

[@nicksrt4478]

Why can’t the head be tig welded repaired?

[@Mr_Sh1tcoin]

LOL at the chopper. That engine is fooked; dont remap your cars kids!

[@acoracing3421]

Hello guys. I have a problem on my audi a6. Mostly it gives me an error for Audi adaptive light, and an error for high beams. The lights work, when the vehicle is started they go up. But when I turn, the lens does not turn, but the auxiliary lights in the headlights come on. very weird. Plus no longer automatically raises and lowers the high beam and dipped beam. VCDS SHOWS ERROR 0061 - Funktionseinschrankung wegen unplausibler Botschaft U1112 00 (137)

[@Peter-o]

What is the milage of this car?

[@kalebshafer2709]

Is there a reason you're switching to different rods than the ones you sold me?

[@VAGTechnic]

Easier to get them

[@94mikyyy]

Hii, can you please advise me on brake discs for 2017 audi a5 2.0tdi 190hp. I changed at audi garage and they are just not even close to the quality of the stock that came with the car. Braking from 250-150 always becomes so loud and they get hotspot marks which go away after a few days. Someone have anything better aftermarket?

[@Interdimensional27]

Sounds like they fitted cheaper aftermarket parts

[@94mikyyy]

@@Interdimensional27 Oem audi

[@almighty383]

2020 - 24 still have noise. From the bottom end almost guaranteed every single one you can hear it at idle.

[@Interdimensional27]

🥺

[@montage12333]

I personally think that cylinder head is salvageable, you have the metal plug I would get it aluminium welded by a very competent welder

[@pauli150]

How many km was on the car?

[@VAGTechnic]

Around 40k

[@Ghostronix]

What year was this S4?

[@VAGTechnic]

67 plate

[@mickthurston9883]

Obvious lack of regular services. Similar rocker arm failure to the GMC rocker arms on Weller farms. Mick London

[@jonbell2305]

Perfect advertisement why you need to service your car Crazy really. I see it all the time. I done a jaguar F Pace this week 115k miles never had a oil change and customer said its been sounding rough and smoking. rattle from timing chain so he put more oil in. Half way up the dip stick. Couldn't understand why oil was dripping from the turbo pipes. 😂 And expected a cheap fix. Yeah sell it buy a electric scooter

[@nikkooE4628]

Can you do mine I’m from U.S.

[@VAGTechnic]

We can

[@442olds7]

Remind me never to buy a S4 B9 lol...whatever that is.

[@Interdimensional27]

Don't buy an S4 B9

[@lemmykilmister450]

Everything is cheap on these cars, apart from the purchase price 😮😅

[@manxman8008]

hum hum means FFS!

[@fulvioplatania3091]

4 rings are expensive manholes with 4 wheels…