Valeton GP 200 JR/LT vs NUX MG 400 vs Flamma FX 150 vs Matribox 2 : which one to buy?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

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[@mCKENIC]

Thank you for all the hard work Leo. This is an excellent comparison and a really great demo tune!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much , I'm happy that you like the video...and when you like my music I'm SUPER happy!!!

[@pmclaro]

Thanks, Leo! Whenever I want to understand and make my judgement on gear, your channel is always a safe place to check: you give your personal opinion but also justify it and characterize the material your review very well, in a way that makes it easy for me to understand what to expect and too look at the aspects that are important for me personally. That said, I see no reason to replace my (large version) Valeton GP-200. :) Thanks again!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you so much for such amazing compliments!!! Thank you for taking the time to live e feedback: it means a lot to me!!

[@Xtianisms]

Finally. the multieffect shootout ive been waiting for. Great job always, however i think you forgot to highlight that the Matribox II is the only unit with midi in/out. Thanks

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video! I mentioned the midi options i the comparison chart at 7:05....but you are right...I didn't mentioned it in the summary....thanks!

[@Diijkstra]

you read my brain. earlier I was thinking on what to buy then out of nowhere you uploaded this video. the timing!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I'm really happy to be of some help!!! Thank you for letting me know!!!

[@lee8org]

Another great review, thanks Leo. I own Matribox II and completely agree with your summary.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, thank you for sharing and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!

[@iqbalirmawan9941]

keep up the good works, Leo! thanks for the good video comparison and the deep unit reviews.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you so much for your nice feedback!!!

[@jcoulter43]

Great comparison and I loved your demo song. I own the Matribox2 and really like it. I've compared it head to head to a ToneX One and my friend's Quad Cortex. It seems to hold it's own, but does not have the richness and complexity that the other modelers provide. BUT, and this is a big but, for the sub $200US that I paid on Amazon Prime day I could not be happier with my purchase. The 3rd Party IR's can really make the unit sound fantastic. It also compares very favorably with my POD Go that I use to play out with in my Praise and Worship band at church. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much!!!!! Your experience is very valuable for all the friends of our community: thank you for sharing!!!!

[@myTubesTube]

Grazie Leo, a really comprehensive comparison!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!

[@pepper...]

Caro Leo, nelle tue mani tutto suona che è una meraviglia! 👍👍👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Grazie mille!! Troppo buono!!!

[@IchBinEinBerliner_ButNotOnly]

Thank you for your efforts and the time spent!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you so much for your feedback!!!

[@regianalfarizi]

In my opinion, it depends on what we need the most. If you want it specifically for recording, Nux is the best to choose due to its 32bit/48khz record capability. But for live gig use, Valeton / Matribox will be the best choice because of the balanced /xlr output and also for its capability to customize each built in footswitch. You can assign the footswitch to turn on/off certain effect, assign different function when you double press the button, and also another different function to choose when you do short pressing or long pressing the button. Hotone / valeton / sonicake are basicaly the same company so the tone are more or less the same in quality and if you notice the user interface between those device are also almost looks identical. Hotone for the flagship, valeton for the mid tier, and sonicake for the budget tier. Thats why you have more feature in the hotone, then reduce some feature/amp/effect choice in the valeton, and then the sonicake with least feature/amp/effect choice. Zoom will wins if you need a multi effect for completing your pedalboard set in very minimum budget as it has capability to load same fx block within a preset. For example, you can have two delays in one preset. You can have slap back delay for giving your tone some depth and add another delay for soloing (as long the dsp of the unit is not overload). The unit really works well when paired with stompbox pedal. And I do prefer zoom g2four tone since I’ve already been comparing it over the valeton and the nux when it comes to the stock cab available in the unit. Nevertheless, the screen in the unit and having no capability’s to load 3rd party IR is really a joke in 2024. Additionally, it has no send & return and their editing apps software is a paid apps. Not much heard about flamma, so i don’t have any comment about its features. But soundwise, it sounds more or less the same as nux, valeton, and sonicake. Here in my country the price of these device are such an anomaly. Sonicake Matribox II about 177 USD, nux mg400 about 193 USD, zoom G2Xfour 206 USD and valeton gp200jr about 270 USD. Here in my country nux mg30 & hotone ampero mini has the same price as the valeton gp200jr. All in all, its all depends on what is your usage scenario for the pedal since the tone from the pedal are almost identical

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for sharing your considerations and suggestions!!!

[@jeanguion3223]

I bought a Valeton GP200, I have certainly found the input gain in the global section for the main input makes a huge huge tonal and Drive characteristic difference it has to be set carefully. All my guitars have medium/medium high output pick ups and I run mine at -8 dB.. I came to this conclusion by testing the dynamic response of amp sims at different input volumes ,and also by comparing drive characteristics of Real amplifiers on KZbin with the same settings... I am an extremely picky guitar player and I am very happy with my GP 200....

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!!!

[@CL_Audio_Tuning]

Leo! This is really an eye opener To my ears the Valeton DEFINITELY sounds much better than the other 3! And not just because i own one, but the basic tone is a lot closer. I would probably add the ampero MP80 to this test!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing and I'm happy that the video has been of some help!!!

[@plumbummusic2051]

Hey Leo, thanks for another great comparison! I was wondering, can any of these units send parallel signals for different outputs? For example: a signal path coming out from the XLR with an IR and the same signal without IR to run into an actual amp

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video! I have not assessed this aspect...and I'm not sure....if someone knows, please drop here a message

[@Dla_TlauAldrin]

Great info videos again, thanks Leo 🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you so much!!!!

[@thymick5581]

Can't wait for the Nux MG40

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

It would be a cool unit for sure....

[@freefromleftwing]

In order to have an opinion regarding the sound differences of those 4 units, it's only possible due your amazing work and knowledge. Besides some tech differences, ones offering this and that and others not, sound wise, my ears were saying that the Valeton and the Matribox are closer to the real thing. Again, this is my 2 cents opinion and you can disagree, which is absolutely fine :)

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀 Thank you so much, I'm really happy to have been of some help!!!

[@cortesdospodcastsYT]

Good job! I have a question, if I put a little more bass in the Flamma, would it sound similar to the Matribox? I'm between these two... I found the Matribox to have the "better" sound, but the Flamma has a touch screen! Hugs from Brazil!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much!!! Yes, of course, tweaking you can get closer.

[@cortesdospodcastsYT]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Nice! Thank you so much!!

[@tdrduarte]

Good price point to be in. The only deal breaker for the Zoom is the fact that it can't load external IRs. Maybe if you use it on a DAW, you add it using NAM, Libra or NadIR on the track... But still they all have something good to consider.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing! Actually, you can not disable the cab or IR section of the zoom...therefore you can not add it later....otherwise you are gonna have two IR/cab in the same chain. Thank you!

[@borisv8766]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Upon startup, Zoom brings up a menu to pick between two output modes: Line or Amp. I suspect picking the Amp would disable the cabsim section, BUT - I'm not sure whether it disables the whole preamp section along with it or not. Zoom as usual is very non-descriptive about what exactly is happening if you pick the Amp option.

[@jefffffffx]

Thanks for your comparison, you've done a great job! I think it's worth noting that the Flamma doesn't have mic simulation but it has tubes simulation that would have improved the sound in this comparison...

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for sharing! May I ask you why it would have improved the sound? if it is activated and the same of the real amp...

[@jefffffffx]

@@LeoGibsonGtr the tube simulation is a value under the cab section that affects how the selected IR is processed. The flamma didn't sound that good in the video and that might be the reason. I think that selecting a tube that takes better the loaded IR would've improved the sound without fiddling with other parameters..

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Ah ok...but we can say the same thing related to other modellers tweaking, I mean I can tweak the eq or other parameters of the other units to get a better tone....maybe. Thank you!

[@jefffffffx]

@@LeoGibsonGtr yeah I get the idea of no tweaking to make a fair comparison but it's impossible that every modeler process an IR the same way others do, making IRs more suitable to some brands than others, despite the "universal" idea behind IRs. I think flamma implemented the tube setting in cabs to, somehow, get the loaded IR to sound as close as it was supposed to sound. Thanks for your videos Leo, they are really inspiring.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!!

[@kuntoaji4674]

Based on my hearing opinion For Deluxe Reverb: Valeton GP200JR/LT For JCM800: Matribox 2 and Valeton GP200JR/LT For Tube Screamer + JCM800: Matribox 2 and Valeton GP200JR/LT

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing!

[@kuntoaji4674]

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[@PhantomAce-rb4cu]

Thanks for another nice video, Leo! Greetings from Uzbekistan. I have a request, I'm sure others would support - can you make a video comparing Hotone Ampero Stage 2 vs Headrush core? Thank you in advance

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!! Thank you also for your suggestion...unfortunately I don't have the Core...maybe in the future...

[@devilslide01]

I may have misunderstood- you said only matribox has midi, but I believe the gp200 lt does as well

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, the regular GP 200 has midi, but the JR does NOT have midi connectivity. The LT on the other hand, has midi. Thank you!

[@freefromleftwing]

The 3 Leo's flying trip :)

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀😀😀

[@ForelsVR]

Not gonna lie, I always wanted a Flamma FX (the 200 tho not the 150) but -BUT the Matribox 2 sounds way more near to the real things compared to the other ones. Might really consider.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing your findings!

[@rubenmedina5050]

Great review

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!!!!

[@dr.franciscotorresmarquezc7352]

The matribox has detune or which ones? Like to play in Eb not using the expresion pedal? Tnx like always from Chile Leo. Best regards to you n your family.

[@lee8org]

Yes it does in MOD section.

[@ViviendoFutbol365]

19:16 jcm 800 overdrive 20:45 valeton

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thanks!

[@abehaddad]

And out comes the matribox II pro and blows every unit here out of the water 😅

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing!

[@jubrankalblushi]

i need your help purchasing on of the 3 in terms of best sound quality valeton GP 200 moore ge 1000 ampero 2 stage which one you recommend me to get? i play at home not live and with friends and need a big library to download IR's and more cab if possible

[@ViviendoFutbol365]

18:06 Jcm 800 19:02 valeton

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thanks!

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Nice

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!

[@noneyafkn]

Please GP200 vs headrush MX5

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for your suggestion!

[@rridwan2464]

Yes pls..

[@ViviendoFutbol365]

16:38 17:49

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thanks!

[@ajackfees319]

How about include mooer ge 200 ?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for your suggestion! These are all pretty new unit vs the GE 200, which is pretty old...and now there is the GE 200 PRO...that unfortunately I don't have. Thanks!

[@DarkEtherealRhythm]

Daamn, that Zoom one is a joke. 😅

[@rockboy4470]

Zoom may have archaic interface. But I love the sound and playability of their new IR tech.