VAN BUILD | FRAMING a RAM PROMASTER

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Framing out your van is arguably one of the most important steps in building a camper van. You must know what layout you are going with and what areas of the van are going to need the most support. For this van I needed to maximize the space for my RV Queen mattress so not wasting any space there was super important. I also needed to add addition support for future overhead cabinets. Also making sure the walls and ceiling have a seamless transition from front to back.
I hope this information was valuable to you and assists you guys on your build! If you have any questions about how I did something leave me a comment!! I respond to each and everyone!
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[@drewcampbell7980]

This is THE most helpful video I've found. Thank you. One request.....add simple added helpful guides like: "I ended up needing ___ linear inches of 2X6 for the upper, angled panels" Thank you

[@lessthanzero2843]

Just bought a used ram promaster and im using your videos as a guide to get my build going. Your the best i have found for people learning to do this for themselves. You are totally awesome! Keep it coming.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

NICE!!! Good luck!!

[@theroaminggnomad]

These are great tips I need to know because I want so bad to be able to do this on my van by myself & I have zero carpentry skills but all the desire to learn & get to work. Being almost completely paralyzed from the waist below I am going to have to get creative myself.

[@Trang-xq9fn]

This video has excellent instructions for framing. I have watched hundreds on this topic. Your method with the 2x6 at the ceiling is the best for using wood.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lynneftw]

Here because I saw your channel sticker on the back window of a van downtown an hour ago in the 208.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

That’s awesome 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 hahaha

[@jamesshade6280]

Enjoyed watching your video, I am a contractor with a Promaster and I like your ideas and craftmanship!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks James!

[@KB95675]

So good! Watching you makes it look doable. Thank you for all the tips. Looking forward to watching more of your informative videos.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks Kerry!

[@ectorgaona2286]

Thank you 😊 now I can't start the framing. Hello from oregon state

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You’re welcome!! Good luck on framing! Hello from Idaho 👌🏻

[@erinankeney567]

Nice work Colton! The van is going to be set!!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks!! I’m excited. This frame work should work out great 👍🏻

[@taeum3062]

Think this is one of the most helpful videos!! Really appreciate it and keep up the good work!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I’m so glad you enjoyed it!!! Thank you 🤘🏻

[@smores5679]

the word you were looking for is quintuple!

[@cynthiasloan5069]

Another great video. You made the framing look so great. I have the ceiling and horizontal boards done! Uprights go in tomorrow. I wish I was young, strong, and tall...

[@zalinaaldridge8406]

Great video. I’m wondering if I use 1x3s which are 3/4” thick if that would throw off ceiling using the 2x6s? I don’t have a way to rip plywood.

[@dougbailey7730]

The best video I've seen on the subject, very well done. Could you post a link to the exact wood to metal screws you used please? Key info. I've looked all through the HD screws and still not sure. Was that Liquid Nails? I've used self tapping exterior 1" galv wood screws extensively in a marine environment and they've been perfect after 10 years. Thank you, I've just subscribed.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you!! I appreciate it. For the wood I used: Ceiling: 1/2” plywood ripped at 2.5” wide Angled ceiling piece and bed frame: 2X6 lumber All of the wall studs: 3/4” plywood ripped at 2.5” The screws are 1-7/16” wood to metal self tapping screws (the brand is Teks) The construction adhesive was from the Gorilla brand!

[@anner6342]

As an infant in the learning curve of van building and an almost-senior lady doing something so far out of my comfort/knowledge zone, your video (which I've watched 3 times so far) has been so helpful! I'd appreciate a parts list so that I'm sure I'm purchasing what you're suggesting. I've never heard anything but the plus nut/riv nut route with is more complicated and more expensive, so your approach is something much more easily achieved by me. Your tips are worth their weight in gold! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in detail! Tremendous video!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you! Happy to hear that my videos have been helpful! That’s why I started this channel in the first place!!! I agree with you about the plus nuts, those are probably a stronger option but more complicated and expensive. Self tapping screws with construction adhesive is plenty strong and in my opinion easier to install! Good luck on your build! And congrats on stepping out of your comfort zone and learning something new!!! Cheers 🤘🏻

[@suzettecsutton]

I keep going back and forth with nut/riv too. Is there any other benefit to riv, like rust prevention and removal? I am doing your video this weekend 😬😁

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@suzettecsutton The biggest benefits to riv nuts is it’s strength and remove-ability. It’s cons are that it’s more expensive and more difficult to install!

[@juliesmith1387]

I have watched 100’s of framing vids over the past 6 months... this is by far the best video I have watched!! Very detailed! 👍 I now feel confident that I can do this!! Thank you very much for posting this video!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you Julie! I’m happy to hear that! Good luck on framing out your van!!

[@susantosi695]

Yes...I watched it 2 times

[@Chuckrunseveryday]

I'll echo the comment below about how well made your framing video is. I was thinking about ripping plywood for framing and you've convinced me. Very well done sir and I'll continue following your progress.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you so much! Means a lot! Good luck on your build

[@josephjuno9555]

Alot of people block off area above rear door like that? You NEED THOSE HOLES! That is how u access those ligbt bulbs! When they burn out u might say Doh!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Notification bell gang!!! Thanks for watching. Links to everything in this van is in the description. If you found this helpful, LIKE THIS VIDEO AND LEAVE A COMMENT! That is the best way to help my channel out!

[@joeblow1942]

I’m trying to figure out if the Promaster is tall enough for me. How tall are you?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@joeblow1942 6’2”

[@joeblow1942]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Cool. I’m only 5-11 so I’ll be good. Thanks.

[@sheri4673]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds I just came inside after staring at the walls of y 2019 promaster trying to figure out how to frame out everything in prep for walls floor and ceiling. Yours is the first detailed video I'm watching, it' very good! Can you tell me, what year is this Promaster? Did you have to do any shimming anywhere or is all your framing really flush up against the van walls/framing? Do you have any gaps at the location of the screws, between the wood and the van walls/frame or is all the framing in contact with the metal of the van (with the exception of the very end where you pointed out a gap at the gate end of the van)? Thank you for anything further you can share. I'm feeling a bit intimidatedat this point, I can't find any corners, angles or anything that seem to be the same inside this van- it's mind boggling!!

[@sheri4673]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds I saw you invite people to ask questions, I'm following your video to do my framing right now, and hoping you can tell me, did you use actual Kreg self tapping screws along with your Kreg jig, and what length were they? And by any chance can you estimate how many screws in total it took to frame out and install the interior wall and ceiling covering? I'm trying to count up how many screws to buy in various sizes and it's looking to me like I'm going to need at least 500 screws just to get the walls, celing, and floor in- that's before any cabinets or constructing the bed frame- does that sound right? I'd be very grateful for your reply, and thanks for the excellent video! Happy New Year to you!

[@oscarcastillo6779]

U rock brother

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks dude!

[@vandweleer8004]

Good build info here! thanks if you dont have a table saw like yours, can you ask HD to cut that sheet wood into 2in studs ? thanks

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You can always ask! Or you can get a skill saw and a straight edge!

[@RamblinRoverMatt]

Ive watched so many framing videos and I think I like the way you did yours the best! Are you still happy with it? Also, Are your vertical supports 3/4 in ply strips? And what size screws did you end up using for securing the 2x6s? Thanks so much! Because of this video I may be able to do this myself without paying for assistance! I don't have any wood working experience lol Thanks again! -RR Edit - Reading through the comments and I see 2 1/2 or 3in screws will work for the 2x6s. And that the wood sizes are: The ceiling pieces are 1/2" ply. The walls are 3/4" and the transition from ceiling to wall pieces are 2X6s. the bed frame is also a 2X6 So now the only question remaining is are you still happy with how it came out or would you do anything differnt? Thanks again for all the great info!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks for the comment :) I would not change anything. This (in my biased opinion) is the absolute best way to frame this van out!

[@libertybell144]

Hi Colton. This is such a great video. I watched it a year ago, and have watched several other framing videos since, but this is the one I keep coming back to. I have already cut my furring strips and 2x6 pieces and got the 1st furring strip on the ceiling today. In a couple of other videos, people complained about needing different thicknesses of furring strips for the Promaster to get a straight edge across the ceiling, but it looks like you are using 1/2-inch strips for all the support beams. Is that the case?

[@gatilleropr1]

I just had to pause the video to say god daaamnn i like how u explained everything!!!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hahahah hell ya! Glad it helped!

[@kellyhaas1194]

I have never worked in construction or built a campervan so excuse my very basic question - what kind of plywood do you use for the frame and in the video about making the bed? I made a very rookie mistake following another site's instructions on installing my floor and I first laid down regular plywood and treated it for mold - it promptly warped and I learned there are different types of plywood and I didn't need to treat the wood if I had the right plywood. By the way - your video on installing the floor also helped me solve the issues I was having. Love your videos!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I just used the standard plywood. Typically made of Pine. It’s important when sealing wood to seal it on both sides. All wood is going to expand and contract in some way! I used birch plywood for all my cabinets. But regular for the framing and bed frame. Glad my Flooring video was helpful :)

[@kellyhaas1194]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Thank you for your quick reply!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@kellyhaas1194 always :) feel free to ask as much as you want

[@justjudy7320]

People pay attention to what that man just did at the back of the van by covering up the back eaves that contain the wiring. Anywhere there's wiring you're better off can put magnets in the back of the wood panel so that it can be removed when you have a light bulb go out😂

[@donaldnelson8057]

Is it common for there to be no framing on the bottom half of a van build? Thanks for the video it is great!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Only in places where I’m going to have cabinets :)

[@MacLindsayJr]

Great video! Thanks so much... Questions please: 1) For the cross members, you added 1/4 on driver side so it was 3/4 total and was then 'level'. What about all other cross members? 3/4 or 1/2? From looking it appears to be 3/4... 2) For attaching studs using the pocket holes what screw length/size did you use? I'm not wanting to split those cross members. Thanks again!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

All the ceilings were 1/2 and the walls are 3/4 And for pocket holes I use 1-1/4”!!!

[@huntercoddington120]

great video. your vertical bed frame is used with 2x4 brackets that are vertical across and then those are drilled into 2x6" for the frame correct?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

That is correct!

[@huntercoddington120]

Awesome bro, thank you! Me and my girl just started our van build & got some good inspiration off you page so we appreciate it 👌🏻 subscribe to our channel it’s “Coddventure” 🤘

[@rawdawgco.]

Made the same move with the bit in the impact driver. Getting around the cargo space is a pain.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

That’s the joys of working on a van!

[@sandymckenna2493]

Thanks for the great framong video. I'm going to be starting my framing soon and want to get the tools for it. Can you tell me what pocket hole jig you reccomend? And if you add a link, I'd love to support you that way. I also was curious how you did any framing at the floor if you have any pictures. I've been staring at the wheel wells and bumpy things along the van side near the floor trying to figure it out.😢😂 Thanks in advance.

[@seantraynor6493]

Great video. Question though. For the short vertical supports that will end up behind your cabinets, what thickness are those boards? 1/2" or 3/4"? I like the idea of the pocket screws, but it seems like 1/2" would be to thin for those pockets.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You’re exactly right. The vertical walls were all 3/4”. The angled corner pieces are 2x6s. And the ceiling is 1/2” Thanks for watching :)

[@user-yp7im1su9s]

Well, I hope you show the close up in the future what you have in you hand screw wise and how and where you are placing it that is what I want to see to make sure I know where to drill. Yes beginner people need the detail where the screw is going into the metal. Fear of screwing up pun lol good video your the only one I have found showing details in framing. Thank you

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I did show the products I used in the beginning of the video! I used 1-7/16” wood to metal self tapping screws and construction adhesive. As far as the placement of the screws, it is fairly straight forward! There’s about a 10% chance your miss since there’s random gaps and holes in the structure, and if you do find one of those it’s simple enough to back the screw out and find a different spot! Hope that helps!

[@Deanussy]

i don't get how u screw down the ply wood pieces into the metal ribs.. like do u drill new holes or use the ones that are already there

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

The self tapping screws drill into the metal. they're specifically designed the attach wood to metal!

[@JerseyStyle7]

Love it😎👍 Subscribed, i just sold my unused Sunray 109 today, because I decided to buy a promaster van, cant wait to have you build it out for me, whens a good time 🤔🤔🤔

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks for subscribing! I’m actually not accepting any more custom builds at this time, sorry!

[@johnhaug8317]

Did you install any insulation behind (inside) all of the ribs you used to install your studwork? Are you concerned with thermal bridging?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I stuffed insulation in there as best I could. I have a full insulation video :). I used 3m thinsulate and it works great!

[@johnhaug8317]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Thanks for the prompt reply! Very helpful video BTW! I am at beginning of my Promaster build and soaking up knowledge wherever I can find it. Have you considered using rivnuts vs self tapping screws for strength and to avoid drilling more holes in the van? I like the simplicity of self tapping screws and wonder how difficult it would be to use the riv nuts (alignment etc) and pondering the pros/cons. Thanks.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@johnhaug8317 I have nothing against riv nuts! It’s a great option. There are many different ways to build out vans! This is just the method I prefer

[@downswingdegen]

Just about to dive in to my framing process. Perfect! Thanks for the tips and doing the thinking for us.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You’re so welcome. I’m hear for you 😂

[@obey_giant]

What kind of pocket jig do you use?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Kregg pocket jig!

[@blainedubosejr]

This guy has the best van building videos I’ve seen. It’s surprising all of his videos don’t have this many views. Thank you Ankeney!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hahah thanks Blaine!! I wish they did 😂

[@RamblinRoverMatt]

I got the teks you recommended but with the 1/2 in ply on the ceiling framing it looks damn close to hitting the roof when screwing in, did you use tek 1 1/4 in for the ceiling framing? Thats what I am going to get tommorow, and use those 1 7/16 for the 3/4 in ply struts. Just curious what you used for that. Thanks again sir! much appreciated

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I used the 1-7/16ths for all of them!

[@the_weird_scientist]

Finally! A fellow Carpenter that speaks Promaster, lol! Been going crazy for a month trying to teach myself electrical/solar systems so I could have my order list & price together and then I went looking for framing/insulation videos... uugghh. Everything was either sprinters and transits, even bought one of the so-called DIY guides; CRAP (IMO). Was about to just freestyle it when the time came but I lucked up across this video and the wood/screws heavens opened up to me, lol. Appreciation from a career carpenter (almost 20 yrs and I'm 38). This really helped me wrap my mind around what specifically needed to be done as a frame and finish carpenter. Much love and keep these videos coming! My new go to van-build channel! Definitely do an exclusive on the shower because I designed for a 32x24 right behind the driver seat as well... #weirdscience

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Comments like these make my day! The main reason I started this channel is because in a lot of videos I noticed people would skip over the difficult or awkward parts of the van and I would be left figuring it out myself. Also people try make their van build videos a cinematic film and don’t really teach you anything lol. I’m so glad you enjoyed my video! I hope the rest of my videos have been helpful too. Good luck on your build!!!

[@1lifewanderlust]

I agree. I like all your build videos. They are solid educational and informative explaining the details. Leave the cinematography for the finished tour IMO. I’m going to to be using all your videos for my Prom Master build too. Keep up the great work!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@1lifewanderlust thank you! Glad you enjoy my videos! You’re Exactly right. Cinematic shots are for the tour only! Cheers

[@k.pacificnw02134]

If you're a career carpenter, why *didn't* you just "freestyle it", as you say?

[@DavidWolfFF]

We’ve got two young kids, so looking to put a couple twin beds in along with a fixed queen. Do you think your technique for the queen bed would work if you did it lower than that structural member? Planning to do a fixed queen across the van (like yours), but lower. From sketches I’m planning on the bottom of the bed being 18” off the floor (still waiting on the van, so that’s approximate). That will allow me to run a “twin” bunk along the length of the van above the foot of the queen. Planning for the twin to be hinged so it can swing up parallel to the wall when not in use.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Yes that could work. The only difference you would need to do is add some legs to the 2x6 to help support some of the weight! I love the idea of the twin bed!

[@DavidWolfFF]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Thanks again for the quick replies. Nice to bounce some ideas around. Excited to get our kids (currently 4 & 6) out on the road.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@DavidWolfFF they’re going to make some amazing memories! That’s awesome!

[@taxslave5766]

Hi, Just to have an idea of floor to ceiling dimensions, how tall are you? Out of all the van framing videos I have watched, your framing method seem to be the best I've seen. Thanks for posting.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hi! I am 6’2”. So with the 1/2” framing and the 3/4” ceiling boards I still have about an inch of clearance! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Hope it helps you with yours

[@jennypatacsil9821]

I just started my framing and one of the issues I'm having is some of the 2x6 not screwing tightly on the metal framing... what would be your advice for this scenario?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hm, maybe try using a smaller drill bit. Also what king of screw are you using on the 2x6? If it’s just a wood screw it won’t hold as well as a self tapper or a wood to metal screw. Hope this helps!

[@aidanfagan1593]

Love this framing idea, I’m going to try to replicate. Just curious, did you use the same 1 7/16 self tappers on the 2 by 6s up top too?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

No those were 2-1/2" screws!! good question!

[@jennypatacsil9821]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds To clarify, you mentioned 3" screws on the video when screwing the bed studs. Will 3" work for the cabinet studs as well?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@jennypatacsil9821 yes! 3” will work for those too!

[@dronesofyork8055]

Is the 1-7/16 screws needed since the strips are only a 1/2 inch. Seems like a 1 inch would do just fine. I’m not looking at an actual van, so maybe I’m missing something. Thanks

[@susanshaver912]

You are a good teacher! I really like your attention to detail, and how you show booboos and how you correct them!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you Susan!

[@Johnpinkertin621]

What sized nails did you use on the 2x6s? Vids are super helpful!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Its a 3" Spax wood to metal construction screw!

[@joeymyopic]

great video!! anything to be gained comfort and noise wise by filling by the ribs with foam or stuffing insulation in them ? i assume you are using flat board style insul behind the open parts of the walls? thnx,

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Becarful filling the rips and stuff with spray foam ir that "great stuff" insulation. if you spray too much it'll start to expand, since the outside of the van is just thin sheet metal, it can warp the outside!! don't want that to happen!! I have a video where I show my insulation techniques!!

[@joeymyopic]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds have heard to be careful w the foam, , also that winnebago and all the highend conversions use it thnx for the help.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@joeymyopic you’re welcome! Hope I helped! Good luck!

[@joeymyopic]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds was quoted C$1200 , US$ 950 to foam a promaster 136" high roof walls, roof, and backdoors , does that sound reasonable to you? appreciate your help, i'm in the logo'd apparel business, can supply anything u need at dealer cost.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@joeymyopic I spent close to $700 on doing the insulation myself with the 3M thinsulate! And that’s awesome. Send me an email @ [e-mail] with some info about the logos!

[@kennyh1287]

Thank you so much for your videos. They have been the best tools in my chest. I'm converting a 2021 Promaster 159 and you have so many great ideas. A real craftsman. Just getting to the ship lap is a real chore but you have made my project more enjoyable, since I've seen it done before. I had a neighbor think that all this was in my head and I'm freestyling. I gave you a big plug. You deserve it. Thank you Thank You THANK YOU!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Wow, comments like these is what it’s all about! Thank YOU so much!! And I feel you on the shiplap part, there’s so much prep work that goes into just getting walls and ceilings in haha. But makes it that much more rewarding!! My whole family thought I was in over my head when I started my first van. I had NO experience, but I learned so much and really really enjoyed it. SO REWARDING! Haha good luck on your build!!!

[@AndrewLaBreck]

Hey dude so did you use 3/4 in ply for that driver side middle horizontal column and then 1/2 inch for the passenger side?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

3/4 for all the walls!

[@AndrewLaBreck]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Thanks dude!

[@danzbeard]

Which screws did you use after making the holes with the Kreg jig? Cheers

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

1-1/4” kreg pocket screws!

[@danzbeard]

Holy geez!!! Thanks for the immediate reply!!!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@danzbeard I do my best!

[@mariovenegas8468]

Does it really matter on the ceiling boards if I’m using 3/4 pine I know u mentioned 1/2 not sure ? if I have to trim them down I’m using fascia 2/6s it’s actually 1-3/8 thick does it matter upper top so where they meet I’m actually building it right now after watching your videos which is very inspiring well explain your doing a awesome job thanks for your time that u invest

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I used 1/2” to save some space for head room. Nothing wrong with using 3/4”

[@HayleyandJake]

Hey nice work! We tried to maximize the space by the bed too. We got a short queen mattress and it fits perfectly👍

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thanks!! Yeah the short queen mattress is clutch!!

[@edmeredith]

Excellent framing video. One of the best DIY show and tell demos I've seen. Thanks.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Wow thank you for the feed back! Glad I could help!

[@iflanzy]

I'm only commenting because I'm contractually obligated to

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Glad to see your upholding your part of the contract 😂

[@vandweleer8004]

you mentioned your walls (in prev vanbuild) were loose bc you didnt have enough studs, how'd you fix this in prev van ? thanks

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

My previous van had 1/4” wall panels so I had to frame it out similar to how I did in this video. So there was more support. For the tounge and grove!

[@joshuamarshall1382]

Hey, love this build, it’s been super helpful framing out my Promaster. I’m curious why you frame the ceiling along the beams instead of just screwing straights into the beams and adding framing at the front and the back? That’s what I am planning on and curious if there is any reason I would need the extra frames along the existing beams.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Great question. Since this was going to be a tongue and groove ceiling the framining needed to be perpendicular to have enough places to attach the ceiling. But the vans that I’ve used wall panels for I run the framing boards front to back!

[@1lifewanderlust]

You’ve just got another subscriber. I’m now binge watching all your videos!!! I hope they are in order of building out the Van. As I’m not experienced but my Dad has building experience finishing 3 basement builds from scratch. So he and I hope to tackle a Van build project. Not sure where or how to start. Framing, electrical, plumbing ... as this is definitely different from a house.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you!!’ Glad you like them! I filmed and published these videos in order of how I’ve tackled the van build! Good luck on you build 🤘🏻

[@SoCalKevin]

Thanks for the great framing guide! If you had to do it over again, would you still go with the plywood instead of solid furring strips?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Ply wood works great!

[@dronesofyork8055]

I am also leaning towards the furring strips. What did you decide on SoCal? Thanks

[@SoCalKevin]

@@dronesofyork8055I’d go with plywood if I could afford to do my whole van in Baltic birch or marine plywood. But since my budget is closer to folded newspaper framing than good plywood framing, I’ll have to settle for the furring strips.

[@dronesofyork8055]

@@SoCalKevin I don’t know which is stronger, but ripping plywood is not as easy for me. I have a circular saw and a guide, so it can be done. Furring strips are ready to go but apparently they don’t have enough flexibility for the van installation. Thanks

[@SKATEJUICE]

At 6:08 what did you end up placing on top of that piece of framing in the back?

[@ericalanbrody]

What about putting ezcool or lowe under the board? Been trying that but I don't think I would have enough with the 1 7/16 screws I got

[@OfficialAudeka]

Incredible video. Man, this is so clear and a very good strategy. Got a couple quesions: Is this the Promaster 136WB High Roof? How long are those two sets of vertical studs with the pocket holes? Did you stick with 55 inches for the horizontal frames as well? Tough to find decent diagrams online and I have no stores to check the Promaster dimensions in my area. Living in Germany right now and about to move back to the USA in March, but I am trying to get a plan ready.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video! Hope it helps. This is the 159” high roof! I don’t remember exactly how long they were. But the upper cabinets I put in were 12”! The horizontal frames I just measures and cut. Don’t remember the exact size! Sorry

[@kelseydempsey7256]

Suuuh dude sick vid

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Ahhh suhhhhh dude

[@AlternativeEnergyNC]

You should cut the wood and sell kits or get it perfect and sell plans.

[@So-cj4oj]

Thank you for your detailed video. I just got into a Promaster 2500 136 WB recently… I’ve been kicking around a lot of ideas on how to install the support system / structure. This is a huge help.

[@bradenankeney3422]

Getting those extra couple inches for the bed is gonna be CLUTCH!!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Right!! Took me a little bit to figure out how to maximize that space as much as possible. This is going to work out great!!

[@dominic81634]

Is this baltic birch plywood? Sorry if I missed it. Great informative video :)

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Great question!! No the framework is not birch! All of the cabinets that I build are tho!

[@shanerahrle8718]

I've always heard other vanbuilds rave about Baltic Birch Plywood. I notice you mention Home Depot, which doesn't carry Baltic Birch. What are you using for plywood? Any thoughts on the baltic birch thing?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I used standard plywood for the framing and Baltic birch for all the cabinets!

[@Pcas3]

Hey Colton! Quick question. Did you pre drill any of the holes before sending on the screws? I got the exact screws you used. Also did you construction adhesive the 2x6s as well?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

If you have a good impact drill you won’t have to. But doesn’t hurt to predrill. And yes on the construction adhesive!

[@Pcas3]

Awesome thanks! And when you were putting the 3/4 horizontally along the supports I noticed you kinda followed the crease in the support. So when your 3/4 is glued/screwed horizontally not all of it makes contact with metal is that correct? If that wording doesn’t make sense let me know I can elaborate lol

[@kaiyadee9888]

This is the most informative easy to understand video .. maybe it's the way he talks lol

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you Kaiya! Glad it helped !

[@suzettecsutton]

Love this. Do you have a parts list? Newbies need everything. Is it birch plywood?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you!! No I didn’t use birch for the framing. I did for all the cabinets though!!

[@OmegaBELGIUUUM]

Hey Colton, really enjoying your van build series! I am currently converting a Peugeot Boxer (same as your van) here in Europe, so it's very helpful. Just a question about the wood you have used as the structure of the van: do you protect them with any type of oil/varnish/paint so it doesn't get any mold or things like that? Or do you feel like it does not really matter? I see that you have used primer/paint on the wheel boxes and other furniture you have built, that's why I am wondering. Thanks for your help! You're killing it

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hey Logan! Congrats on buying a van and building it out! I didn’t put any oil or finish on the structure frame pieces. I figured since you don’t put any finish on framing pieces of a house. It’s the same concept in a van. I painted the wheel boxes because you’ll be able to see those on the finished build!

[@johnadmire2942]

What kind of screws are you using and where did u buy them

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

1-7/16th self tapping wood to metal screws from Home Depot!

[@TheZharris]

the most instructive and practical van build series yet. thank you!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Glad you liked it!

[@zentegro]

Awesome job brotha! You gave me some great tips in this video. Thanks!!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you!!! Good luck on your build!

[@PhamVans]

Must be nice to not have to worry about insulation!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Yeah it must be, but I did insulate the van! I live in Idaho. Without insulation it would be like living in a freezer lol

[@conundrumschronicles]

After watching this several times I have to say that this is the best framing method for the Promaster I have seen! I do have one question. Do you perhaps know how much room length wise along the driver side wall there is behind that pillar that caused you to use 3/4” instead of 1/2” strips on the wall? I ask because I am going to frame out slightly different on that wall because I am going to install a Murphy bed and I thing that pillar is the best looking framing point. For the bed box frame.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you so much!! Murphy bed will be a great idea! I don’t remember off the top of my head unfortunately.... sorry

[@journeyofjohnathan]

I'm starting to build out my ProMaster 2500 and this tutorial was excellent. Thanks so much!

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You’re so welcome! Good luck on everything

[@peripateticfeat3805]

Thank you for your van build series. It's thorough and easy to understand. Have you tried building a shower/bathroom in a van?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

You’re welcome!!! Glad I could help! I have not built a full stand in shower in a van before. I’m more of an outdoor shower kinda guy 😏

[@jonathanmiller8977]

At the bottom near the floor you don’t put in nailer boards to run shiplap to the floor?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I believe I did later on while I was putting up the shiplap. Because the ship lap did go to the floor

[@adobedirtblues1321]

I just watched it for the third time, it’s amazingly complete. But it is a fairly daunting process for a beginner. How about this idea, since it’s a gift from the gods of automotive heaven that all these pro master 159 wheebase vans are quite similar, how about you design a series of laser or CNC cut side and roof ribs that can be installed to the walls as a base for cedar siding. I bet you could figure out a way to do it with your very clever indentation in the sides where the bed is to make the bed longer. In my crazy mind, anyway they would be like the ribs on a kayak, maybe only five sets per wall/roof allowing for all the ins and outs and difficulties. You might lose a tiny bit of size in the van but it would be worth it for us newbies. The beginner builder could attach them at prearranged points on the van wall/roof. Then simply stuff in the insulation and just start nailing up the siding ignoring all that blocking and challenging transition from roof to walls. I would buy something like this in a HEARTBEAT for a high price. Particularly considering how much money anyone will save on hiring an expert. You could ship them all flat in cardboard boxes w accompanying videos. Anyway just off gassing over here looking for the easy way. Keep up the good work man, you are a wonderful craftsman and a fabulous teacher. B

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Wow that’s something I have never thought of! Interesting concept!!! Thanks that you for the ideas and compliments

[@codyforrest6981]

Hey man, I am currently following your framing vid and had a question about that front stud above the cab. Do you think you’d ever need to access those wire up there? Once you frame and put the ceiling up it would be forever inaccessible...

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

That’s how most of them are. To get to those wires you have to pull the ceiling boards down.

[@jeffreywalker-f1o]

Good system of framing. You can also "gang cut" multiple strips of ply. Saves a lot of time. The Kreg pocket screws is a great idea.

[@johnmeeker6538]

Hope u don’t mind me asking another question. Do u worry about metal shavings? When drilling are you just doing the wood or both wood and metal? Just wondering since they are self tapping screws.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Feel free to ask as many questions as you want! I’ve noticed when drilling into the van through the wood that the wood catches all the shavings. And I make a point of thoroughly sweeping out the floors every day when framing. I did the same on my first van over two years ago and have had zero issues! Hope this helped! Cheers

[@johnmeeker6538]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds u are the best. Framing starts this week

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@johnmeeker6538 hell ya! Kill it!

[@libertybell144]

What length screws did you use for the 2x6's? And did you use self-drilling wood-to-metal screws? After 2 trips to the blue store and 4 different employees giving advice, I am more unsure than ever!

[@tylerjames7200]

What thickness of wood did you use for the beams going horizontally to secure frame?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

The ceiling pieces are 1/2" ply. The walls are 3/4" and the transition from ceiling to wall pieces are 2X6s. the bed frame is also a 2X6

[@ericalanbrody]

Great video! I'm trying to do this now and couldn't with regular 1/2 inch boards as they didn't bend. Your boards look floppy and bendable. So if I got the 1/2 inch sheet and cut them 2 1/2 inch wide, they should be floppy and bendable like yours?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

That is correct

[@gabeschiff-verre4260]

Love your videos! Will you be doing any how-to’s on electrical?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I have a video about the Goal zero and solar set up! Also in my ceiling and 12V light video I talk about my electrical set up!

[@angeleishulman7635]

Hi! Just started framing and was wondering if you used regular 2 1/2 inch screws on the 2x6’s or self tapping wood to metal 2 1/2 screws? We’re having trouble with the self tapping omes

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I used 3" Spax construction screws that are used for wood and metal!. what issue are you running into with the self tappers?

[@angeleishulman7635]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds awesome thanks! The self tappers worked on the roof and on the 3/4 inch wall panels but they didn’t seem to have anything to hold on to once they made it through the 2x6’s. One more question if you don’t mind! What width did you cut your 3/4 panels for all of the vertical supports?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@angeleishulman7635 hmm maybe your missing the metal and hitting one of the holes in the frame.... I ripped it to 2-1/2 wide!

[@angeleishulman7635]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds that sounds about right! Thank you so much!

[@badboyclub59901]

Did you use the 1 7/16 screws on the front ceiling piece also? I looked under the headliner and it looks like maybe they will be too long.

[@danglassphoto]

Nice video with plenty of helpful tips. I do find it interesting how one builder will only use plus nuts and paint all firing strips with Killz while others choose to just use raw wood and drill straight into the van. I guess it really comes down to personal choice. Thanks for sharing.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Thank you! You’re Exactly right though. One of the most common questions I get is why I don’t use the plus nuts. I used self tapping screws and construction adhesive for my first van two years ago and it’s still working out great! I also find it more more efficient and less time consuming! Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@danglassphoto]

@Cascade Yoga Co. Depends on how meticulous you want to be. I chose to use rivnuts, painted all drilled out holes with auto primer/paint, and used mildew resistant Kilz on both sides of all lumber. Seemed to make the most sense to me.

[@zarguy]

I'm a newbie, so forgive my ignorance - Why attach wood strips to the sheet metal & then your walls, etc to the strips? Why not just skip the strips and attach walls directly to the sheet metal?

[@chartmann43]

Lol! I am going to have to use my little ole jigsaw for this project. Unless lowes would let me use their saw! Haha

[@Dan-nf3ii]

Great videos & info I am building out a Promaster & pretty much copying your design . How did you frame around the two lights at base of ceiling of the Promaster . One light is located at center directly above rear doors . The other is located on passenger side above and in back of sliding the sliding door . Thanks much ! D

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I believe I just popped them out

[@arielroman4680]

I did my bed framing just like yours- metal screws straight through 2x6 to the van . But I'm seeing alot of van builders use riv nuts. I'm nervous this won't hold up. How is your van doing? Any loosening feelings? etc? Thanks much. I'm solidifying my incoming bed frame now. I'll go check out more details on your bed video too. But this is the area I'm mostly concerned about since it's the most founding.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

It’s been 3 years and everything is as secure as when I installed it

[@joycedigiovanni9719]

What about the insulation???????.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

It’s in my next video :)

[@aidanfagan9102]

What is the jig tool called that you use to put the screws in at an angle?

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

It’s called a kreg micro jig. They make what’s called “pocket holes”. It’s a super handy jig and I use them for just about every thing!

[@balaftuna]

Hi. Just got my van and took all of the wooden paneling off. I noticed that there was rust around each one of the self-tapping screws but I see that all of the pros are using them. Aren't you bothered by rust? Thanks.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

Hi! How old was your van? What was it previously used for? My first van that I still have is 2 years old now and I’ve encountered zero issues!

[@balaftuna]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Hi. The van is a 2017 Ford Transit. I think that the previous owner was a mechanic. You can see the rust here: photos.app.goo.gl/SLXsrjSoUwDvPkFP7 Thanks!

[@balaftuna]

sorry, wrong image. this one was from the roof. same thing though (but smaller) around self-tapping

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

@@balaftuna interesting. I know my screws are coated with a rust resistant type of coating so maybe that helped? Thanks for sharing the photos

[@balaftuna]

@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Thanks! I'll make sure mine are coated.

[@2003wzup]

Only curiosity is why you wouldn’t insulate the channels along the top before putting the 2x6 framing up. I’m gonna be transitioning to a pro master later this year hopefully for a pilot/escort video. So I’m studying different methods as I work towards that end.

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

I could have/ should have. So you should!

[@alicialatour]

Hey ! What kind of screws did you use in the headliner piece ? Thanks

[@AnkeneyVanBuilds]

3” Spax construction screws!!