VanishRush

[@RathFGC]

Timestamps for each topic: -0:26 dragonrush tick throws ---2:10 it's reflect proof? ---3:20 which 5Ls work best with the new dragonrush? -5:08 air actions AFTER teching dragonrush -7:32 Vanish has new unique combo possibilities ---9:26 combo examples using special cancels -10:32 How to practice teching dragonrush (and how to use training mode)

[@kahlenbranning]

Teching with dragon rush gives you a 24f window. Teching with only 1 button gives you an 8f window

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

Fascinating. Less reward for mashing, but not exactly punishment for it either. I like it.

[@Yellow__13]

Hmm frame window? Explain? You mean like teaching dragon rush with dragon rush itself gives you 24 frames to react and 1 button gives you 8 frames to react?

[@amircat1009]

NeoNero990 probably you get more negative if you tech with dragon rush and get more frame advantage with 1 button.

[@perfectcell2061]

@@Yellow__13 yes. Teching with dr is much more lenient. Teching with a button is pretty strict timing. If you're playing online, it's pretty hard to tech consistently with a button

[@timeeo]

@@amircat1009 It means if you use the dragon rush button to tech you have the whole dragon rush animation window (ie 24f) but if you use a button it's only rewarding at the moment the dragon rush is going to touch you (ie 8f)

[@facundoperez2766]

Dude you are great and I dont understand how you dont have way more subscribers. Your explanations are very accurate and you always put examples with real game scenarios. My only complain is that I would like you to upload more often. Keep up the good work!

[@pumpingpriest5893]

most people only care about combos but yeah, I agree with you

[@moostacho4300]

Pbbbt

[@uncouthLIyouth]

Most practical tips and info by far

[@raullopez4223]

Honestly out of all the DBFZ you tubers he’s been the most helpful and I’ve only been subbed for a week 😂

[@PunkPantha]

He’ll get there with time. As long as he keeps uploading, I’m sure he’ll catch on. He’s got the quality, now he’s just gotta keep up the quantity.

[@95metalstorm]

Dude the recording thing at the end was a huge gamechanger. I was so sad that I couldn't block even at an average level. Great video!

[@fujitora1513]

Because of you I’m not trash tier anymore I’m low casual tier. Cheers for the beautiful vids ❤️❤️❤️

[@diobrando4725]

Absolute 10/10 video, most helpful guide to tech dragon rushes and practice on defense

[@shizukodream]

Thank you for taking the time to show me this I'm going to need it. I'm going to do evo tournament this year

[@kevincalderon86]

This didn't age well

[@niggaassproductions9073]

Rip

[@chrisdivodi9291]

You have a very pleasant combination of voice + the way you shine light on these mechanics. You earned a sub. Very insightful

[@theclown4729]

I would love to see a mix up video from u sometime

[@alijack4998]

Honestly the only dbfz channel I think is worth watching

[@revotor8142]

Hit does benefit from the Vanish - Superdash Change. Its an okay way to extend off of his projectile while standing on the ground. It's really nice Edit: And if you combo into his projectile from a 2H, then vanish superdash into basic combo gives a hard knockdown and sideswitch. Pretty good.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

You mean Hit's only good at Vanish Superdash follow ups, when using Assists to combo off, right? (shrugs)

[@revotor8142]

@@MGSBigBoss77 Who said anything about assists?

[@MGSBigBoss77]

@@revotor8142 He has no air super?, so a TOD combo isn't going to be coming from him now is it?!

[@revotor8142]

@@MGSBigBoss77 Who the fuck said anthing about TOD's? I said that the superdash changes benefit hit's projectile, and they do. It now can consistantly be full comboed from, whereas before at most it led into a DR. And, Hit does have an aerial super, one that's really easy to DHC into, that is now super easy to convert from his projectile.

[@mozthegoat9237]

Your like my Master Roshi! Thank you for all that you bring to this community Rath 💯

[@ricardosoares8838]

Thanks so much for the video dude, did not know about the jump action after D/R tech!

[@itxChapo]

This was really helpful. Don’t know what I’d do without you😅

[@XthecrOssGameR]

I think that reacting with your own DR is way better since if you miss time any other button you will lose. However If you respond with DR instead of a random button you will tech it no matter the frame of the attacking DR

[@gravijah]

Even if I didn't really learn specific things (at least this time), earring them again help remind them, gives ideas, etc. I took notes watching the vid, it's a good clue of its interest. You're clearly one of the most pedagogic content creator on DBFZ, it's why I never miss your vidéos. Thx.

[@kalameet4316]

First time here and I love it. Thanks a lot, dude. You gain a new subscriber. ♥

[@SnakeWay94]

Big fan of your content man, really helping me level up !

[@bozzyham]

This man...doing Kamis work. Bless you sir.

[@Kingdes121]

Bro I always say this but I really love your content. Keep up the good work!

[@markusm2176]

Why are the underrated channels the best channels? 😌

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

Because life is unfair 😂

[@awesomereviews1561]

I think it was confirmed before that teching a DR with a DR command gives you a bigger window to do it than with just a L or M press.

[@facundoperez2766]

I just was going to say that xD. I am surpripsed he didnt know that with all things I learned from him.

[@egebamyasi2929]

To be more specific, teching with a button has a window of 7 frames while teching with a DR is 21 frames

[@athlonzero]

it's more better to tech with DR than using single button tech ?

[@Lapis_James]

@@athlonzero is better to tech with a DR of your own.

[@jordanewell4166]

Dude you are a God send. Keep up the good work

[@toadd]

Dude your videos are great. Thanks a lot!

[@alexisrafaelquinonez6902]

Nice vid! Very helpful and informative as always, keep it up! The vanish cancel would be useful to my boi Vegeta blue now.

[@leonelgarza2475]

Do start up frames for an attack affect the effectiveness of its tech-ing ability of dragon rushes?

[@EvaristoMoreira86]

Mr, this video explains so well the Dynamics of the vanish and dragon rush! I really suggest you rename the video to something a little bit more attractive to the player seeking information

[@notgoin2244]

Amazing video. Subscribed

[@sublime1558]

you can still tick throw after a crouching light as long as you standing light afterwards

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Excellent video, thumbs up!

[@slyspencex9236]

If there is one thing I could add about dragon rush changes is that you can actually dragon rush after 2L 5L

[@summoner0005]

Rejumps with the vanish changes are pretty cool now. Do a 5H rejump, since you land you refreshed your superdash, then once you vanish you can go into superdash to extend your combo further

[@luhloieed6466]

Albert VanBennekom you could always superdash after vanish, it’s just that it was slower

[@faizoking4030]

Your videos are great bro.

[@dcfighter14]

The one thing I haven’t seen anyone talk about is how quick you snap to the ground after you do a snapback in the air to your opponent. You definitely fall faster to the ground after you snapback your opponent

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

Players can control the speed the character enters after being snapped by holding back

[@dcfighter14]

Neutral Neutrality i know that I mean when you snap in the opponents character, you the person that snapped them in falls way faster than in season 2

[@upplsuckimcool16]

Wouldn't you think have the huge 5L like vegito would be a disadvtange for the dragon rush? It makes it far easier to react to the DR now. A single hit into DR is tough. But that long ass kick sequence basically sets you up to tech it. It gives the opponents mind to recognize the 5L and know that the option could be DR which would make it 10x easier to tech now.

[@OmegaXF]

This channel is 🔥

[@discoverarcane]

If Adult Gohan gets his full potential unlocked you could do like heavy -> 2M > 5M > 2L > 5L > dragon rush

[@PunkPantha]

What do you think about using super dash to tech? Being ready to tech with super dash can either get you a confirm or even a break, but it’s also good for being ready to super dash out of grabs too. Is it still better to tech with the dragon rush button over any button? In the chance you misread and your opponent gets a button off, assuming the super dash starts up, it can be really difficult for them to confirm off a low airborne opponent. I guess the simpler question is, are there more pros than cons to teching with super dash? Or is it about the same as regularly teching? Thanks in advance.

[@semja]

2:10 is a great point...

[@semja]

and 10:07 is exactly what i was thinking of

[@tkm1875]

Base Goku has an elbow thrust, not a shoulder tackle. People also think adult Gohan does an elbow in the air when it's actually a backhand, lol.

[@duggythompson9323]

What about set up style moves like zamasu can set up his flight and have time to keep combing with ki blast after vanish and move toward you and then you can use heavy version of slash attack and that will give you ground bounce when done from flight and you can actually keep comboing from there if low enough to the ground. Honestly I think theres gonna be a lot of vanish special cancels that are useful in all kinds of cool ways l

[@Awas96]

Hey Rath, how many of your videos do you think s3 made obsolete? would a person new to the game benefit from them for the most part?

[@RathFGC]

I think they're all helpful still, but I think the character guides will have sections that can be skipped over (like piccolo snap mixup being gone now). But even then, their general tools, mixups, and defensive options are all still there to learn about. It'll be a bit of a project but I'll probably go back and pin comments to most older videos with which sections can be skipped in season 3...

[@joshedwards6545]

I'm pretty sure if you tech a DR with a DR the timing is a bit more generous by a few frames as opposed to using buttons.

[@sleepy9102]

I think adding more than 2 frames of delay help for the online environment.

[@Karma-Larma]

Ay 10k

[@victorb5608]

I’m easily able to react to just about anything on local but once that frame delay hits online i lose my split second timing. That 2-4 frame delay makes a difference. Is there a way to practice with frame delay or do i just need to get faster?

[@RathFGC]

You can add frame delay as a setting in training mode! But I think the best solution is to be more picky about which matches I accept online. If it isn't at least a 3 bar, I won't accept...

[@hyunnimitsu]

thank youu

[@prdserein]

Hey can you make a Vegito 101 video? Im a Vegito main but im still not that good at him, still learning some combos and I can't figure out how to combo with the banshee blast like Clayton Champman does, so a Vegito 101 would be great for me

[@bobrianfo104]

I still have to see anyone react to assist cross up tick throw, it's such a nasty mix up.

[@brancolt_]

You either study your opponent before the match or you take it once or twice and learn to recognize it. Either way you need to look for it, reacting to that in the moment is insane

[@uncleelroy2483]

This would be a great guide for starters but we doesn't speak English because idk wtf a 5L is

[@Skilladen]

More stuff we have to worry about when the higher players touch you once a take half your life

[@SignHavoc]

Try using a17 special on vanish. Get crazy mix ups and even dbl sideswitch

[@__inf1nite__295]

Hit does have an airborne special tho

[@ivn_fgc8005]

You can't escape tick throw by vanishing btw

[@DrWiley-fm3ik]

I played this game on launch and stopped pretty quickly because I felt like the game was so shallow. I'm a marvel vs Capcom 3 player so I was pretty disappointed at how limited the gameplay felt. It felt like the combos had no flexibility and like the defensive game was way too linear. Also basically all of the assists sucked ass save for the beams which was super lame. Have my complaints been addressed or is it still basically the same?

[@polar8915]

Girthquake well there are now 3 assists and limit break which is basically weaker X factor that happens when your on your last character and now there are finally better assists than beams

[@andrewgrime8389]

You should throw after every light. 5L, 5LL, 5LLL, 2L, 4LL and j.L. And mediums should be jc on block without Spark. Also vanish and guard cancel should cost 0.5 too. Also there should be chip damage in the game(only supers and m/l version of special moves, chip wouldn't kill). Add those mechanics and you have a much better game.

[@vegaspony]

lol no

[@elijaah81]

Imagine 5f of lag online and mofos mashing safe auto combos and cancelling them into grabs for mixups. No Thanks. I think its pretty good the way it is, and with such long block strings and some characters having good staggers I dont mind no chip, it let's you play patiently.

[@andrewgrime8389]

@@vegasponylol yes

[@noahcordero5428]

Can u vanished after tech dragon rush

[@magnusguzman907]

why does reflect sometimes send them far

[@gojirasaiyan3256]

Yes , I would love to know as well. Because it seems like my punishes by using reflect are inconsistent due to this mechanic.

[@theclown4729]

It depends when they hit the person's reflect and with what button. If i press 2M on the last frame of reflect and don't press anything I'll be shot half the screen away.

[@davidburke4101]

Depends on the character and their next action. If their attack has no forward momentum, they get sent the full distance. If it does, depending on the amount it can cancel most or even all of the pushback (such as Hit). Generally speaking, if the characters attack reaches halfscreen it will also get around reflect. You can just cancel into another reflect however.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Its a rushdown game that loves "spacing" i guess, its one of the advantages of using the right "Game Mechanic" at the right moment so you've earned some 'breathing room' i take it?

[@davidzrescalante503]

Mr. 10K. For the achievement you have to tod with every character on dbfz. Cause that's 10k damage. Naaaah mean? Or nay your top ten 10ks?

[@evilartnboy]

I did this by accident once!

[@bigblockabadmon7820]

how do you do a vanish without doing a heavy

[@Eggnoug]

you have to hold the vanish button while in sparking, doing that will make you vanish behind your opponent without an attack

[@ManOnTheMoon420]

Aren't you the dude that claimed Clayton faked having cancer?

[@RathFGC]

No? I've never interacted with that person

[@ManOnTheMoon420]

@@RathFGC and here come the lies

[@woodybrando9665]

lol it says the game is street fighter v

[@TitanGenericGod]

Xbox gang

[@bulldogmicro4279]

Title is called "VanishRush", but I didn't see anything about the two together. Only skimmed the video but damn.

[@TheGameneo]

Then watch the video dumbass

[@Fattyb00batty]

Title is "vanishrush" spends whole video talking about the basic dragon rush. Down vote