Vaush Fan CONFRONTS Destiny, Then Offers His HELP...

[@destiny]

A friendly Vaush fan jumps into call with Destiny regarding his latest tweet and offers him advice. Curious about his perspective, Destiny asks him questions and tries to understand his POV. Social worker talks to Destiny to set the record straight ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIWXXoR5f7RlhrM

[@angrytoilet24real98]

Hi senpai

[@toomuchcheese8099]

Meow

[@trashtie4854]

unironically august you should go on strike.

[@semiton]

Random shot in the dark but I'm a medically retired vet who has had a lot of experiences with the mental health systems/being committed in the US. I'd be willing to talk about my experiences with it (on or off stream), if it was something that interested you.

[@olderbadboy]

Females get 100x more attention just from the opposite sex because our biology makes us by pumping chemicals in our brains . If i had a choice i would pick a man to share space with because we got more things in common but sadly i am not gay ... All the lonely professions and hobbies are filled by 90% males . I have been a "gamer" since i was 10 ( 30 atm ) and only when it become cool and money started to be a thing i saw some increase in females .The same goes for engineering,IT, and any job that requires you to work alone or with inanimate objects . There is no doubt about the huge discrepancy in who of the genders are doing better in that category.Also beside the top 2% males the rest of us compete on resources and who is selling sexual behavior for easy money and who is buying should tell ya more about how the world works.

[@thebritanic2092]

August, just find everything incriminating Destiny says in league and then cut it together in one video. Threaten him with that whenever you want

[@jdcarrier953]

Your’re saying threaten him with a good time?

[@ataridc]

It will almost certainly involve Yordle which I didn't know was a thing until this arc

[@sharpnail8806]

I would watch a 10 hour version of this video idea.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Lol August could hold the whole channel hostage

[@alrasin579]

#1 certified get a raise strat

[@yawgg]

It's so incredibly dishonest for this guy to say that most people are chill with being committed to an instituition by force.

[@yawgg]

@@MaDHaTT3R85 being committed was one of the most destructive things to happen to me in terms of my mental health. How can I possibly be comfortable admitting to someone that I'm unhappy, if doing so results in me being locked up? The other toxic side of it is that once you're in, the only goal is to lie and say how happy you are in hopes of getting out as soon as possible.

[@Unnamed12347]

I laughed out loud. Delusional

[@artickk4146]

Got commmited. Not Fun. I repeat, much much not fun. Worst and most destructive experience of my life. Still got traumas from the hospitalization. You pretty much have to strategize yourself a way out before they up your benzo's dosage so hard that you can barely know where you are anymore.

[@WanderTheNomad]

Maybe he's just had different anecdotal experiences

[@xokirei]

@@yawgg agreed

[@Visitant69]

"It over uses resources to send cops" How many resources do you lose if a social worker dies?

[@asger3310]

5

[@oxxy6678]

1- social credit

[@fdsahjklqwerty2470]

@@CrasterFamily ?

[@jeffwells641]

@@fdsahjklqwerty2470 It's a mean joke. Funny tho.

[@arthurcallahan4735]

Social workers are ultra trash to send into any violent situations 🙃 If you need psychological warfare or convincing you send a Negotiator.

[@speedgoblin9985]

If this league arc continues I’m gonna turn into an august fan

[@NotMorning]

cutting out the middleman, so to speak

[@chanr9531]

Already was

[@speedgoblin9985]

@@chanr9531 true but now exclusively

[@MrTuas]

Im gonna tristana w into a fed bruiser in real life if he continues, in game.

[@redshift912]

I hope he keeps playing . Everyone on here crying about not getting free content . Unreal

[@Counterpoints]

You don’t know what a call is until you get there. Dispatch often gets shitty and incomplete information.

[@AnAngryMarauder]

Hi conner!

[@Counterpoints]

@@AnAngryMarauder hi!

[@AnAngryMarauder]

@@Counterpoints you should talk to destiny more. Watching you rage at him is very entertaining.

[@oenonezer0421]

Isn't that kind of the Vaush fan's point though? Or am I missing something? The argument is that we shouldn't automatically assume cops are needed for every mental health call, just like we shouldn't assume cops are needed for every medical emergency.

[@Humuncules]

​@@oenonezer0421 That take is basically fuck social workers. Most medical emergency calls aren't social in nature, but mental health is by it's very nature, as mental health issues are defined by the minds divergence from the norm.

[@dubsteak]

I love the moment where destiny asks if his take is insane and the guy thinks for 30 seconds to think of an objection at all costs when they obviously agree...

[@ddonnelly3904]

That guy should have been soundly destroyed as he is working off feels arguments and seems to agree with Vaush without fully understanding why. The fact Destiny couldn’t seem to finish a sentence without being distracted by the game let him off the hook and change the topic several times. This guy should be thanking the gamer gods that he falls into forgettable content rather than becoming another Destiny debate scalp.

[@MeMe-nm7jr]

The "cops" or "mental health professionals" debate is just so insanely naive. We are talking about emergencies that dispatch needs to send units to immediately (police, fire, and/or ems). Dispatch can't sit there delineating what type of mental health case requires a cop or mental health proffesional. It also makes them more liable if they didn't send a cop in the couple minutes where they needed to. Some ppl will just hate cops. There are separate systemic policing issues but sending police to emergencies less often isn't the answer and just complicates things more.

[@Lord_Freezey]

Not to mention police often have to use executive powers to; restrain a violent person, detain them to an ambulance in order for them to be transferred to hospital, assess and make a decision on the nature of the incident (I.E has this person been assaulted / abused by their family, etc). An EMS or paramedic responder are not afforded these powers; without police there a lot of these incidents would play out very differently. The guy looping back to a 'resources' argument show how detached he is from the actual issue.

[@MeMe-nm7jr]

@@Lord_Freezey agree 100%.

[@oxxy6678]

My main problem with this whole thing is I totally agree that cops are a good idea to bring to these situations, but we have multiple examples of cops not being trained to deal with mental health crises and as a result responding very badly to them, sometimes killing the person. The last thing a person having an anxiety attack will do is respond well to being put in an arm bar on the floor with a big cop making it hard to breathe. This seems like very basic stuff to me. Cops should be extensively trained on how to conduct this shit.

[@asw654]

That's because these people refuse to admit that 1. some people really are just dangerous and irreconcilable. 2. the rest of us don't care if it's a mental illness or just plain evil, we want to someone (police) to deal with them quickly as possible for the rest of us. Yes, I have sympathy (not empathy) for the people who DO have mental illness, but what about everyone else who doesn't have a mental illness? Just because some lefties out there think we have too much privilege doesn't mean we don't deserve rights to safety. The avg non-mentally ill person doesn't have that many options for safety/defense other than hoping the police keep the streets safe.

[@MeMe-nm7jr]

@@oxxy6678 agreed kinda but that's a large grey area. I agree that some cops can be trained better in responding to mental health cases but there will always be a limit to their understanding because they are cops responding to emergencies or other policing shit. They aren't true mental health professionals and never will be fully. There is no simple broad solution aside from more training but cops should be getting trained in how to be good cops for all of the things they can respond to, not just this. There will _always_ be fucked up edge cases that training or professionals couldn't have changed. Society should try to limit those cases but that's all we can expect.

[@nocuh]

My fav ctrl-v irony is calling dest “spite-driven” as an excuse for refusal to debate him, out of spite

[@isaacstetson5720]

Dest? Lol y’all bros now?

[@Immor7alBG]

@@isaacstetson5720 Yo dest, scuffed tonight? I'm down bad.

[@TheSmotherface]

@@Immor7alBG i'ma keep it a buck fifty with you. Let me borrow 10k.

[@DDogg43777]

Have you watched any of their… “recent”… conversations? It is just a spite-filled, shit-throwing contest. I think it’s pretty reasonable that Vaush doesn’t want to debate like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Jo-bs2uu]

the worst Vaush has looked is in Destiny Debates, mystery solved

[@HeldVenom]

Vaush Fan: Initally, I argeed with you that men are far more lonely and isolated. But then I realized that men and women don't experience the feeling of loniness in fundamentally different ways. Great - under 2 minutes in and the Vaush fan is showing Vaush levels of incompetence. "I agreed with you but then I thought of something that has nothing to do with the fundamental statement I think you made. Checkmate, Destiny!"

[@robinheinemann1740]

They are a Vaush fan for a reason!

[@mrman-yj3bn]

If sombody calls you it either has to be them or a freind. Something tells me that this guy doesn't know that the majority of people who get killed in these situations are told: "he isn't a bad guy, he won't hurt you, he is just scared"

[@HT-jj5sx]

Wow.... "being taken into custody for a few days would be... "Annoying"". Holy cow.... wtf?

[@zachtalkssmack4470]

I was a EMT for 5 years. The thing that was drilled into my brain till it hurt was to “check and see if the scene is safe”. That includes people with the possibility for violence or suicidal tendencies. If someone is willing to off themselves they most likely don’t care about your life as well. Most psychiatric emergency should have a cop ready to lend a hand.

[@ericbishop6861]

Came here looking for this. First thing they teach on day one and everyday after is 'safety of the emt' and 'don't add more victims/injured'.

[@zachtalkssmack4470]

@@ericbishop6861 exactly!!!

[@ashleigh9659]

Besides driving a car or standing next to a pulled over car...entering a private home is one of the more dangerous things a police officer can do...why would you send someone unarmed

[@NikoWrex]

Because they wouldn’t be the one to do it. It’s easy to say stupid shit when you’re not involved or have very little understanding of the situation.

[@LuciusSicarius]

The discussion around emergency response and whether a cop should be there or not was incredibly frustrating. Seemed like the guy knew Destiny was right, but refused to agree simply because he was too stubborn or scared to admit it. He kept throwing out examples of "little old has fallen and can't get up" and didn't seem willing to engage with Destiny's realistic examples where there is obviously potential for danger or need of someone to bust down a door to get to the person that needs help.

[@really9962]

My dad tried to commit suicide after my parents split he called her and told her he was going to do it she called the cops and one cop came broke down the door and drove my dad to the ER he would have bleed out otherwise

[@hellopellos]

hope your dad is doing better now

[@really9962]

@@hellopellos he is thank you

[@katelyn3431]

Thank you Destiny for talking about disabled parents! It’s so true that we live in fear of social workers taking our kids from us for basically no reason just because of our disabilities. Disabled people almost never get their children back when that happens because the judicial system is so prejudiced against us. Thank you for educating on this!

[@skepticinall]

So as a parent CPS asking me questions scares me far more than any cop. Before kids that wasn't the case. So my opinion unless you HAVE mental illness, don't speculate they aren't terrified of a social worker. I'm with destiny on this one. I have mental ill friends who are terrified of anyone who can committ them involuntarily.

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

Are you in America? I've heard these fears from Americans a lot, but never from anywhere else. I'm not sure if it's selection bias or America is worse.

[@xokirei]

@@amandaspear6148 not to mention that you can do more damage falsifying a cps report than a police call, sometimes the cops will reprimand the false reporter but there are many instances they wont (especially when it comes to domestic disputes), but at the end of the day whoever got called on can walk away from that unscathed. if you get cps called on you they WILL enter your home and sometimes look for the smallest shit to reprimand you for, like somehow expecting a home with toddlers to be completely tidy and then putting that on a record that's extremely arduous to have dismissed, assuming you're in a state where that's even possible. there are so many stories of ppl having beef with each other that don't involve the children whatsoever that one party calls cps on the other party for, and getting your children taken away even for just an afternoon because someone hates you and wanted to be vindictive is far more scary than having to deal with the police imo. do not underestimate a social worker's ability to ruin your life

[@chronographer]

41:19 "uh social workers being, like, brutalized and attacked with no backup doesn't seem to be an issue that's ..." Meanwhile in Australia the government is literally running adverts on TV and on busses saying "please don't assault our ambos" after a run of publicity surrounding attacks on paramedics.

[@TheEccentricPoet]

As an ex-counselor I heard and still hear stories of how terrified people can be of mental health workers in these situations. They are harrowing, the accounts. I even have my own personal thing in which even I'm afraid of cps or social workers who work with them, even though I know it's lasting trauma from the one incident years ago, and does not encapsulate all of the profession. When one of my now teenagers was a preemie in the NiCU, the hospital mandatory reported the couple with the baby in the cubicle next to us (shared room) for something, but accidentally listed our part of the cubicle, which was the room number followed by "A," instead of the room number followed by "B," which was the one with the problem. Even though the hospital cleared it up immediately, and apologized, Texas CPS (this was during the time when TX CPS was so corrupt and abusive judges ended up handing down slam after slam accompanied by long furious lectures, since they were trying to find reasons to take kids away in order to collect the state money they'd get per kid, so that's why I mention it was in TX) decided to "monitor" us for a bit, because of the fact that my husband (a former university professor and still to this day private music teacher, no less, ffs) is disabled, just like Stephen said. Our families, the hospital, our then teenager, our friends, his former and then piano students, our cop friends, and even many individual honest CPS workers within the organization itself who'd read our file, since we kept filing multiple complaints, said, "they've done nothing wrong, wtf?” - everyone we knew - all came out and said, "they're model parents, this is bullshit." But, the organization itself still made CPS workers who didn't want to make waves by saying anything against them do home checks and interviews. Finally, we had to hire a lawyer, and the court ordered them to drop it and issue an apology letter to us after a scathing reprimand. So, while I have not been arrested ever, and get how that would foster a more fearful view of the cops, especially if I were a minority, I'm saying we can't discount the fear people have of social workers or CPS. I'm terrified of them to this day when they're practicing in that particular capacity, and institutiinalized folks would have an even bigger terror than mine, which is why I included my personal story (in the vein of, imagine if this is that scary for me still, how terrifying must it be for them) so I don't see how this guy can play that down. Sure, there's the frequent fliers who are less upset, but to play down the fears of the other group by dismissive tone and/or attitude is to miss a major part of the puzzle, imo.

[@buddysyst3m]

Love how this guy still ends the conversation, after ALL THAT, with "yeah anyway here's how you be better at debates and content, see ya!"

[@saviourly3186]

Forget about all the arguments, this man just said, "I don't know why the life-alert button is so easy to press?"

[@DetectDEV_]

The fact that someone has to think this long to answer a simple question, just to not agree, shows how much they want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

[@oxxy6678]

My main problem with this whole thing is I totally agree that cops are a good idea to bring to these situations, but we have multiple examples of cops not being trained to deal with mental health crises and as a result responding very badly to them, sometimes killing the person. The last thing a person having an anxiety attack will do is respond well to being put in an arm bar on the floor with a big cop making it hard to breathe. I have panic attacks and im a pretty big dude, so I might be seen as a threat. Im also harmless but if im having an episode and the cop is very aggressive, ill go fight or flight. I might end up injured or dead in this situation, which would have been completely avoidable if cops were trained to put themselves in the shoes of the person experiencing the episode. Talk slow. Be comforting. This seems like very basic stuff to me. Cops should be extensively trained on how to conduct this shit.

[@Anonymous-ks8el]

He really didn't want to answer why Vaush refuses to directly engage with Destiny

[@benny399]

He probably thought it wasn't that relevant

[@Anonymous-ks8el]

@@benny399 He coulda just said that rather then try slither out of the question

[@Twistedhippy]

He kinda did tho " Steven is a big meanie and hurts Vawsh's feelings"

[@skulley6361]

Because you stop wasting ur time on a 33 yo edglelord that mostly doesn't care about shit other than himself and suffers from napoleon syndrome

[@ianyoung4460]

"and he dies" "yes but..." this is where I pause the video and go watch good content

[@xenos_n.]

Destiny dying on the "cops are less scary than social workers" hill is so bizarre. As somebody who's had experience with all of these things, I think he is very wrong.

[@xDDufiosy]

You can't just have a Serfs braindead take at the end without a warning, its giving me PTSD

[@fantasyskeep]

It's the Baker Act here in Florida. 72 hours minimum, watch in a locked room, often restrained in some form, usually all clothing is taken and replaced with gowns and you cant leave until the state doctor says you can.

[@enlightenedchipmunk2001]

How men and women experience lonliness is literally the entire point of Destiny's tweet. A woman losing a subscriber (or something to that effect) might experience the same emotions as a man who loses a friend, but the two scenarios are not equivalent, and that same woman might crumble under the dissappointment men face daily.

[@flexseal111]

I’m not even an EMT I’m a volunteer firefighter who responds to medical calls and this is making me wince. All 911 calls tied to violence, drugs, psychiatric problems etc. ought to have a police unit respond to clear the scene for medical care. You don’t need a cop for things like back pain, sick complaints, or breathing difficulties and the like but you definitely need one on all the calls tied to violence and dispatch already categorizes them all and sends police as needed where I live

[@LeonBelmont1000]

Buddy doesn't even want to defend his position because he cant but thinks himself a debate connoisseur by giving advice on how to help Destiny "improve"...? His patience has come a long way to sit through that bs.

[@Shinjiku]

This guy felt like he went out of his way to disagree with each point just not to be in odds with Vaush. Like you can have your own opinions instead of trying to please your master.

[@edmaldonado8207]

I got the same impression. Several times while listening to this I was like, "Dude just bite the bullet." and he never does.

[@mtg4205]

1 like = 1 prayer for August in keeping his sanity intact for digging contents to post.

[@BoredErica]

Something that annoys me is when some guys seem to think the type of attention attractive women with good Twitter following getting compliments is at all what the average woman gets.

[@jonathantfreeman]

You really can't get this dude off ur mind

[@blackheartwornonmysleeve8045]

'I feel like I've outpaced him, intellectually'

[@pigwag]

'He's giving 100%!'

[@chocolatMouse]

6:30 I'm only familiar with onlyfans with as far that I know what it's basically interactive porn: but are there people really that delusional that they think they have a (para) social relationship with a girl who only talks to you if you give her money?

[@charlieme2295]

There’s some lonely people out there my guy.

[@francothesucc9701]

I dont think people are that delusional. Its more about the fact that you kinda know the person from a non-sexual context, so the reveal on onlyfans is more intimate than watching some random pornstar on pornhub.

[@ExeErdna]

@@francothesucc9701 That makes it even creepier since you know them from a non-sexual context doesn't mean a damn thing. That parasocial addiction is very dangerous when not controlled. Especially when these people think they control the person because they happen to toss money away.

[@francothesucc9701]

@@ExeErdna Youre talking about two different things. Sure, i agree its bad when people think they own onlyfans girls simply bc they donate. I was just explaining why someone would find it necessary to even pay for onlyfans when other porn is free. Its like if someone you went to high school with made an onlyfans. I dont think any of them genuinely think they’re talking to the person directly or are good friends with them. Like Destiny said, most top onlyfans creators use bot replies for their dms.

[@jelledesmet7086]

That's pretty much what that entire industry is build on yeah

[@4Y0P]

30% is huge man. 3-4 interventions and you're harmed lol. (edit: referring to 31:15)

[@Godsabum]

"I don't know why they make those medic alert buttons so easy to push" an EMT probably should know something so basic.

[@liam6157]

Paramedic here, the second thing we learn after “bsi on” is “scene safe” it gets annoying after a while. You look after number 1, and that’s you. If police aren’t on scene to ensure safety, you do NOT go in. If I get injured, now we have another patient and one less care provider. I don’t know what this guy is talking about. I’m not a big fan of cops, but I 100% need a meat head who isn’t afraid to throw someone around when I show up to a call. I’m a skinny twink who’s really good at my job, but I would loose every fight I get into. I need Meathead McGee just in case.

[@Paragonofcynicism]

I think the dumbest thing the guy said was he doesn't understand why the life alert button is so easy to press as a guy claiming to be an EMT. If you're elderly or mobility compromised and you're also having a heart attack or some other medical emergency you likely aren't going to have the mobility or dexterity to push a complicated button and a few false reports vs a few people dying because the button was too hard to press is an easy problem for most people to come to the right conclusion on

[@BOrrellgod]

Being committed is pretty awkward

[@joeybanksgaming641]

As a Firefighter….there’s no way this guy was an EMT. Wtf am I listening to. The first priority is your safety as a first responder. Get a cop there first if a call goes out like that. He’s comparing 90 yrd old lift assist calls to a suicidal call? Big oof.

[@sirfortesque8757]

I give Destiny a lot of credit for constantly re-evaluating his beliefs to be sure he's not being hypocritical and 99% of the times people think hes lost his mind is bc hes so well grounded in consistency when other are fluttering in the wind with popular opinions. Whether its his free speech beliefs(Hitler should be allowed to speak like everyone else) or Rittenhouse or female privilege on social media or even calling out a black female lefty when they are wrong/grifters. I think police should be escorting social workers on calls to homes but not "ordinary beat cops". If we want to have these cops who will escort become specially trained for these situations then thats cool but i dont want just random cops showing up to these situations bc i have huge doubts in present day police having great de-escalation skills. Having been a Social Worker for 10 years and now a Registered Nurse for 20 years i dont see the situation Destiny describes very often if at all. During home visits i have never experienced a person in crisis actually getting worse bc i showed up. But i have had many. and i mean many patients quickly become even more decompensated when they saw the police with me. I usually have the police out of sight in a different room so they are present if needed but not in plain sight of the patient bc it can become intimidating at times bc "regular police" are trained to demand order and have people follow their commands quickly and thoroughly and a person in crisis is almost always having difficulty processing information/commands. The police are 100% necessary for both the social workers and patient and other family members safety but they should be as unassuming and non-confrontational as possible and leave as much as the SW and patient interactions just to those 2. My experience with patients who have been committed has been more often than not that there is a part of the patient that knows they need help and desire to have the structure of therapy/meds. I just did a quick Google search and in 2021 only 0.9% of the mentally ill were committed involuntarily. Now...more often than not a Psych consult team made up of Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Therapists and nurses etc will inform the patient that in their opinion they are going to commit the patient involuntarily. At that point 90% of patients will voluntarily admit themselves bc if you voluntarily commit yourself you have the option of submitting a 3 day letter to be released and it is usually honored within reason. But if you are committed involuntarily its up to the team to release you and you have no say in the decision. So...I dont think Vaush is scared or intimidated. I like vaush and find him very funny and often enjoy his debates. But i do not think Vaush is as steadfast in his moral belief system as destiny and i dont think Vaush is as willing as Destiny to take unpopular opinions. I dont see vaush having on his show 543 Psychologists and other professionals to debate Physics, Philosophy, and topics such as i"s there such a thing as absolute right/wrong "or "good and evil" or other topics that require 3 shows and 54 hrs of debate/discussion. But, he is entertaining and does think fast on his feet. Thats why the tagteam debates they had against the "alt right" are so devastating bc they each bring different styles/techniques to the table. Vaush and destiny, on the same side of a debate against any opponents is gonna be extremely hard to win and if its anyone beneath a Ben Shapiro caliber of debate like Crowder or Big Papa Fascist or JLP etc....its gonna be a blood bath and i dont see them "losing' to any other team. These 2 doods have a complex relationship. Vaush thinks Destiny is growing Conservative bc of maybe 2-3 takes r/t Rittenhouse, Poverty/housing, and obviously Socialism vs a mixed system of democratic Socialism. While Destiny got sick of the left starting with Hassan and it spread to vaush and i believe Desrtiny thinks Vaush is a "secret grifter" to an extent, whos opinions can be changed by popularity as opposed to self reflection. Also Vaush's roomate getting Destiny banned didnt help when vaush 100% denied anything to do with it. Vaush would have been better off admitting it and telling Destiny to F off then the completely deny he had anything to do with it. I think to this day destiny still despises that cop out. That being said no one can deny that Vaush can be so so funny and can "destroy" an opponent while he is at the same time playing with his cats just as Destiny can do 9 things at once while debating any mid-level conservative.

[@emperortgp2424]

tldr

[@sirfortesque8757]

@@emperortgp2424 ok… destiny is both right n wrong here. That’s better?

[@emperortgp2424]

@@sirfortesque8757 yes

[@mdh_masalewale8681]

this is probably the best Vaushtiny piece of analysis on the internet, spot on. Please learn to format though my eyes are still bleeding

[@AppleBaron]

Damn, another schizoposter.

[@Avery_____]

I'm a social worker and I tend to agree with Destiny on this topic. However I think anyone who experienced a traumatic forced hospitalization are most likely going to have an equal mistrust and fear of authority in general (parents, teachers, social workers and police officers, etc.).

[@caseypdx503]

Sure, which is why you need both an officer and social worker on these calls, to respond to a possible violent confrontation regardless of the fear of authority. And it’s even more true when they are afraid of both officers and social workers.

[@holyflygon]

I don't believe that guy was an EMT there is just so much bullshit that came out of his mouth.

[@ohn9431]

Literally speechless when he said people who call the cops are afraid of them. 🤯

[@elton1211]

19:30 I dunno if Destiny needs it actually spelt out for him or just wants people to bite this bullet for some odd reason but yeah, it's because it's personal between you two and not Tucker Carlson.

[@Hi_Im_Pangas]

A story my paramedic wife was told back when she was in training was of her teacher arriving on scene to assess a stomach injury. They get to the place and are told the patient is in the back room. They get there, and the girl was shot in the stomach. Two seconds later, the mom comes in with a shotgun and tries to shoot the medic. He was able to escape back out the front door, and a cop had heard the call, thought it sounded weird, arrived, and ended the situation quickly. Medics are trained to be wary of calls with no cops because of instances where they could be killed by the people who call them. It happens more than the media reports (basically never). This guy is an EMT, so he's basically a glorified taxi driver. He can do stuff, depending on the state, and may have more responsibilities, but overall they don't do or see as much.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

If I had the choice between going to jail for Disorderly Conduct or getting Committed for a Mental Disorder I will go to jail every time.

[@papahippie2847]

As some who took emt trying, they tell you to call the cops in heart beat if you think the situation is gonna be something wild. Doesn't matter how server it sounds. Call the cops could save your life and thier life. Everything to do with being an EMT is time and if you have to wait on a cop because you made a miss call and the situation is worse then you thought. That's your life and theirs.

[@Nihm420]

Say for instance, a BJJ practitioner who has a rival, and they confidentially assert that they are a better BJJ practitioner, they have “outpaced them.... wrestlingly” and are just a class above... and that person they are talking about challenges them to a BJJ match... and all of a sudden they are full of excuses to why they won’t have a match with them..... it doesn’t matter what their rationale is, they are afraid. Vaush is afraid of debating Destiny.

[@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739]

unstable families hate social workers, I wouldnt expect vaush to know that though given his upbringing

[@Tauramehtar]

"Chatting up 5 to 10 different guys." My dude here hitting the low balls 😅

[@fungdark8270]

2:20 there was a study on kids during Covid, far more girls felt more isolated and alone. The increase in boys was lower because they’d already felt isolated and alone to larger degree.

[@TheDolphinTuna]

I don’t like social workers because of an experience some relatives had when I was little. Even if I know in my head that they’re usually not malicious, my gut tells me that they’re scummy busybodies who go around trying to break up normal families.

[@OldSkoolWax]

I live in Ireland. The fact police come out on EVERY mental health call in America is fucking insane to me. Police are last resort here. Only called if needed.

[@pete6300]

Its pretty obvious this dude doesn't have much experience with how much the state ruins people's lives. In every place I lived social workers were some of the worst ones. They can have you committed, they can have your kids taken, they can force their way in and inspect your house.

[@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739]

If you went to a public school you probably know at least 5 kids rhat despised their social worker lol

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

50:00 DOG! If somebody is a "frequent flyer" and this is "just some shit they do" then that is a *crazy person.*

[@paulblart2179]

This might be the most he's ever interrupted someone. Please just don't speak to people when you're playing league - it rarely leads to anything productive.

[@crushinnihilism]

Vaush literally just threatened a bread tuber to force him to remove a video, and said people need to be MADE right, but Destiny is somehow problematic...

[@jetjet6560]

WE NEED DESTINY TO REVIEW THE DR. K RESPONSE! This gon be gud, also get NotSoErudite (Psychometrician) on as well!

[@sulilin2187]

we just need him to get off league

[@Sonyboj]

The namebadge shit at the end.... these people have not worked a real job.... Badges are not just your name, it is an access card that could be used to get access to buildings/offices and in some cases it is also a smart card used to login to PCs

[@droptableaccount1820]

"Using social media as a woman is a form of work." Lmao.

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

I'm willing to believe it is, but I won't buy that it's hard work, I reckon most of the people who pay for OF work harder than the women managing them.

[@A7XUnleashedx]

This guy argued in bad faith especially in sending cops with social workers

[@chargingbadger7904]

What about kids who have been taken from their parents? Base on my experience they don’t even know how bad their home life is and they love their parents! So when social workers come take them and put them in a home or unfortunately sometimes multiple homes they probably develop a fear of them, probably more so then cops.

[@Mysticvanee]

In florida its called the Baker Act not the brady act LOL close enough!

[@matthewjohnson6280]

Only about halfway through the video, but this is just a brutal mogging. This Vaush fan is out of his depth.

[@blankiepoo]

I have always been more worried about some wack job putting me in a mental institution and not letting me out than cops. It's like saying that stockholm syndrome is ok because people are just use to it. Just because someone can get "use" to it doesn't mean it isn't a traumatic experience.

[@asw654]

One of the biggest complaints lefties have is how people who get out of jails have hard time getting reintegrated into society. E.g. employers won't have them. If he thinks for one second society won't adjust after his proposed changes, he's nuts. Employers will just be worried about people who get treated for "mental illness". Even I will. This would just make us less capable of distinguishing between nonviolent mentally ill people who sought treatment proactively, vs violent criminals with mental illnesses.

[@Liberal_pan]

Of course the makeup of twitch is mostly males. Its a video game streaming website and males play video games a lot more than women.

[@delicrux]

I find it hilarious that peiple dont understand that channel overlap is a good thing, it means you are less likely to have a echo chamber.

[@Holystryker]

Another interesting league video, thanks august

[@Marcel-eg9bz]

If there's a call that comes in about an agitated person (suicidal maybe) and it's been identified that weapons are present (like firearms) then 100% no social worker / ems is walking into that property without police present. 1000%. It's called liability and risk assessment. The safety of the responder comes first. Are we okay with putting the lives of social workers and EMS workers at risk because it's not optically popular to even hint at the fact that police is sometimes good?

[@Marcel-eg9bz]

Also I've had to call the police to back me up as part of my work, and I did not feel anything other than complete relief when they arrived and through the encounter. I'm not risking my life doing an inspection - but I still have to do my job - that's when police come in.

[@TheIcedPeanut]

48:30 yeah Baker Act is what it is in Florida

[@Dovahkiif]

I don’t think this guy fully understands what being committed to a mental institution means, if you’re someone having a mental breakdown being committed to a mental institution could feel like your life is over and idk why this guy would think a social worker should go in alone and confront this type of person. If you’re already having a mental breakdown and then on top of that you believe that your life as you know it is now over and you have access to a weapon or vehicle anything could happen. Not to mention he said this is only like 30% of the calls social workers get, he really said if he was a social worker and 30% of the calls he gets could lead to his death or someone else’s if he doesn’t bring a cop he’d take that risk… wtf…

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

At least when you go to jail you have a pretty good idea how long you'll be there.

[@AimingAtYou]

D-dog is mostly right, but there are definetily people who would even be relieved when they get commited to a home. Its not the norm, but it can for sure happen. Gut reaction can be that "maybe my suicidal thought are worse than I think". Again, not the norm, but CAN be the case. Have a relative thas was commited to the psych ward. Oooh, working as a techer and YES, parents are sooo quick to react scaredly when we mention social workers and they can help. A lot of their work is to helping parents, but since we never see that in tv-shows generaly people dont know that.

[@0hate9]

I love how destiny says "a lotta these girls have girlfriends", because he *knows* the majority of sex workers are gay

[@zyto7904]

pretty sure he just mispoke omegalul

[@AmplifyAmbition]

Why is the chat blown up again. If the background game isnt worth displaying just black it out besides chat and his cam. So annoying really.

[@nickynault812]

i would say this guy should ve brought up how the contradiction of cops to getting committed is a fear of loss of life vs an anger towards a relenquishment of their rights for a temporary period of time that USUAULLY results in positive outcomes regardless of poor social coverage, and billing issues. like they both can provide some ass situations. for sure. but overall the fear of police especially for people who are in a mental crisis or minorities is definitely realistic and worth considering de[ending on the call.

[@bradders9743]

"I agree actually" "I agree actually" "I agree actually"

[@connortillman7129]

From my understanding, if the person has locked themselves in their room, with potential overdoes on drugs, the firefighters would be called for breaking through the door and retrieving the person, not the police, no?

[@accountnotfound4209]

Is this recent or from 50 years ago?

[@RichardGAG]

15 feb, says right in the description.

[@TophinatorStreams]

Why is this an issue? Men and women can both have fans or be lonely for different reasons. All Destiny did was making his observations. Women that start OnlyFans or Twitch with the intention to make money by flaunting their looks, usually know most of their fan-base will see them as F-bags. They know it’s disingenuous to lie, but that’s the price of success. If they can get away without lying, all the better. I’m sure good looking men do well, too. It’s not a difficult concept. Not everything is SEXIST or insidious. This troll needs more to do in life.

[@ExeErdna]

"Fake it until you make it" Even Hasan admitted people only watch his dumbass take because they see him as good looking and because he looks good he's "trustworthy"

[@TheGreatJ]

Holy shit its hard to not generalize chats like this. But if this is the average vaush viewer it's embarrassing. This dudes critical thinking skills are at damn near 0. I truly wonder what the average dgg viewers mind is like in comparison Then at the end he says that a lot of people would only be "annoyed" by having a social worker forcibly commit them... Holy shit. The average vgg'er

[@K1ngsd1]

We need more good faith people like this so we can bridge the gap between these communities

[@nuckinfutzsf822]

I thought this guest was pretty naive but I liked his analogy about handing a friend a gun.

[@Gopherzooka]

I have had 3 seperate social workers ruin my life at three different parts of my childhood.

[@Gopherzooka]

I have had annoying interactions with police but they havent ruined my life as of yet.

[@AdamIsaacs1]

AUGUST STOP ZOOMING THE CHAT FOR THE 50th TIME. destiny chose the size if its fine for live, its fine for youtube AND ITS CUTTING OFF THE SHIT HE PULLS UP (and the high tier gameplay)

[@bestdjaf7499]

To be committed is so much fun. A day with cops, or a week with Social Workers. Let me think.

[@fredthenomad4078]

this has a kind of charisma in a weird way. Wouldn't mind hearing another conversation in the future.

[@azn2xcbbjai]

"Most of the time you don't need the cop there" And most of the time you don't need a lifeguards to know all the first aid/CPR/EMS stabilizing head techniques, but when shit goes down you'll be happy the lifeguard was trained for that. Just like if shit goes down with this mental health crisis situation you'll be glad that cop is there even if he doesn't need to be there 99% of the time.

[@tsitzel4949]

Destiny: If police aren’t with you initially, and you need their help to save someone there is a higher chance of them dying. Vaush fan: That is a sacrifice that I’m willing to make. If it doesn’t work out blame the dispatcher. Their jobs are super easy, and never difficult. Destiny: People who call the cops get scared when they arrive? Vaush Fan: Chad YES Person who called the cops in vaush fan fantasy: Oh no the police are here now i have to hide from them, and my psycho ex wielding a machete. Person who actually called the police: HEEELLLP HEEELLP shot that crazy fucker.

[@Blizz3112]

I feel people forget that it was Vaush's side that dirtied the water... not Destiny's...

[@konzui]

rough times

[@isomz638]

A cop should go on EVERY call to assess the safety. That cop might leave after 5 minutes or might stay for the entire scenario.

[@sman1278]

Commenting just to help out August a bit in these dark times.

[@shadow12912]

Spineless Lance at the end lol

[@pigwag]

My brain hurts trying to understand this guy's logic.