Vaxee Outset AX Wireless Review - A Tailored Experience

[@FreshReviewsYT]

My bad when I said Model O 4K/8K - That is IN FACT A MODEL D. And yea, I definitely broke my Zaopin when I yeeted it. Unfortunate.

[@theunreliableweathermanhaa3843]

What would you say is the best or top 3 fast movement mousepads??

[@Xerpocalypse_]

Vaxee makes fantastic mice. I've never had an issue with their hardware, and I really admire how they approach the engineering of their products. (See also: frimware upgrades for the XE Wireless and NP-01S.) Their commitment to quality for the price stands in such stark contrast to companies who seem to lack that level of focus and ethos. *cough Glorious cough* I recently picked up a Lamzu Thorn, but my Outset AX is one of the few wired mice I still own. It's also the only glossy mouse I own.

[@sEaNoYeAh]

I echo your thoughts on the AX, the shape is stunning, and Vaxee imo have best in class design and engineering. I was an RJN acolyte, but it was listening to the Vaxee designers and then actually trying their products that elevated my understanding of mice and shape. I think they're totally right about pretty much everything. The subtle right side curve is essential to ideal control, there's no point in symmetrical curves at central waist of a mouse. And I do now think grooved triggers makes clicking inconsistent and is just worse; they're completely right that very defined steps in a scroll wheel improves it as an input for playing videogames. And I was fascinated to learn that the EC shape was not designed remotely as a palm grip mouse, and it's shape was actually intended to facilitate a tilted wrist angle to improve useable range of motion, wrist health, and comfort. This used to be mentioned on the Zowie EC product page until the community obsession with grip style took over and they removed it in favour of big icons saying suitable for claw and palm. For years I had wondered why moving to symmetrical mice made my aim feel restrictive even when precise, but I never held any EC derived mouse in a palm grip (also big hands makes this largely impractical anyway), always a relaxed claw, and that yielded the best results. The AX feels like the culmination in everything they've learned so far and is my favourite mouse. I'm currently trying the Lamzu Thorn for an extended period, but I suspect I'll be back to the AX after this is over.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Exactly, i noticed the same. When i tilt my grip thats when i get that range of motion and pocket in my hand. Everytime i would using a ambi mouse and go back to ergo, i would suck badly, because my hand needed to relearn how to tilt properly. The thing with ergos is how versatile they are, you can semi fingertip tilt grip them to get that range of motion while keeping the supreme consistently and stability ergos provide, you can push your hand more forward to get more stability, etc. Even though my model D was 128MM it still has MORE range of motion then nearly 50% of the ambis i tried. Small ambis too in the range of 116-120mm. Its crazy how advanced these shapes are. I’m planning on getting the vaxee soon. Hope its good

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Also what did you like better, thorn or outset? I have the thorn currently and its ok, but it doesnt have much range of motion.

[@Ricey20]

Agreed with you. Out of all the mice I've tried, I still kept my Outset AX wired handy when I wanted the best ergo mouse. There's just something about the shape that makes everything feel so easy, natural, and consistent. I'm very curious how well their 2k/4k implementation will be but knowing Vaxee it will be solid.

[@VoltaReviews]

Great point about the weight! 🔥 I don’t mind heavier mice depending on the skates and pad combo I’m using. The only time I do mind is if I’m using a fingertip grip. Nice work 🫡

[@fwabble]

Weight is a factor but I have said before once you get down to a reasonable weight and depending on YOUR size and natural size/strength - it will not hamper performance - for me, that's around 65 and under. For big lad like you probably

[@wr_vid5281]

I have tried AX (wired) for the first time just last week and had exactly same feelings. I just took a mouse and it instantly fell into a right place. I have tested numerous ergo shapes and that has never happened to me - I have, almost exclusively, used ambi mice in the long run (Vaxee XE being my favorite for months btw). Shape is king

[@Edwardx703]

It seems to me that Vaxee wins the award for Mouse of the Year with their releases this year. I am excited to see what else they will release in the coming years.

[@paul2609]

If only they sell their mice outside of North America and Europe...

[@user-fc1kv7oy1c]

@@paul2609 same bro been trying to get my hand on a np01s and at max only manage to find 99% new resell xe wired

[@carajean206]

He needs a room tour. It looks like it would be interesting. That dac/amp looks nice also looks out of my budget.

[@xerosphoenix]

I can't choose between the AX and the Thorn. I like both. I will get a AX once the 4K dongle is released though. Still have my glossy AX wired and I refuse to sell it. Vaxee make great stuff

[@UltimateEnd0]

Frankly its minimalist design is beautifully executed.

[@defu8592]

I had no idea this released already! Just bought the pink version, sucks I have to wait till nov 15th for shipping

[@MrThaigamer]

I was looking forward on Lamzu Thorn, but I think I have to reconsider to AX as well. Shame that Asia-Pacific region isn't avaliable yet.

[@windfail]

fr i had to order NP-01S wireless from a relative that is visiting South Korea huhu

[@MrThaigamer]

@@windfail for me I have to wait for our main retailer or someone put it on a second hand sell here. Life is hard on Asia for real lmao

[@giow.9517]

Lamzu, vaxee, pulsar really is god tier company at this point

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

I've been using the pulsar xlite v2 since launch, it fits my hand perfectly. I wonder if I would like this mouse.

[@vermillionranger8558]

I thought the Lamzu Thorn was comfy , until I got the Vaxee Outset , I had the same experience , felt like it was made for me , although mine didn't have the M1 side travel. I have small hands, I think 116 mm.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I might need to try a new copy

[@dazquez]

Take a listen to the Truthear Nova with foam tips. Great imaging and I think it could go on your wall hack iems

[@sisar7]

Was waiting for a review of this mouse everywhere. Another banger of a video. I really would like to get this mouse especially the pink one

[@riker8214]

Omg I’m so happy they did this mouse in wireless!!!

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

I agree, the shape of this mouse is the best I've ever used. I use the wired version. This is a 10/10 mouse.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Outset lovers unite 💪🏽

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

@@FreshReviewsYT Absolutely. I love it so much that I got one for work as well. All that remains to be seen is how durable it is in time. My old HyperX Pulsefire Surge lasted for 5 years. It still works, but buttons 4 and 5 have developed double-clicking issues.

[@kennethng9653]

​@@Ausf.D.A.K.How's mouse 5 on the wired version?

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

@@kennethng9653 both of my units are great, no complains at all.

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

@@kennethng9653Everything is rock solid with both of my mice after 3 months.

[@crazyeyecarl]

I have an EC2-Cw, and I'm thinkin about pickin up the blue AX wireless. I'm worried about the length.

[@bung0o]

I can confirm, my experience with the outset AX is exactly the same

[@sosaS2]

Realistically there is no actual difference besides it being wireless compared to the wired version yes? besides the lighter clicks, overall mouse still quite heavy and the only downside to it for me is the price, love the wired version and will probably keep mine as i do not mind the wire.

[@AINGIRY]

Whats the sensor placement like on this Fresh I can't seem to tell! I sadly cramped hard with the XE but their 1k is absolutely insane and really didn't want to send it back! I had no idea this was around the corner.

[@calpispop]

Thanks for the review and do hope when I'm able to pick one up that they tighten up that QA. BTW, what's your preferred Vaxee color? I really like the yellow on my XE wireless but I'm torn on what color to go with next.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Yellow was great. I actually really like this blue. I also like the orange but the orange can get old fast. I feel blue is safe. I did order one in orange tonight though lol

[@auzimatic]

Given how much I watch your videos I should know this already probably but what size is your hand?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

A smidge over 21.5

[@PokeKaza]

Vaxee not selling to Australia has saved me alot of money 😅

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Damn

[@HaloDaycare]

An actual good mouse, unlike that glorious garbage. This is the content we need.

[@yeghigmikaelian]

lets see if my copy has the same issue, 1st copy of xe had that issue for me, 2nd copy was ok, can we move on to the dx9 now? :P when are you allowed to talk about it? the black one looks hot!!!

[@Doggie64]

Woof, Mr. Large-hand. Another fine mouse review Freshy. To bad I'm still stuck on my G502''s. Yeah yeah, i know I have lighter mice on display 4' away from my desk. I'm just to stubborn to open such fine looking products. I still haven''t even opened the custom glass pad I bought to see if it got damaged in shipping....Doh. Luv supporting your content. 🤡

[@zxmii-5874]

Which do you think I should I get ? Thorn or this? ( I currently own Razer orochi v2. My hand size is small- medium)

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I can really only speak to my preferences and the outset is the winner

[@zxmii-5874]

@@FreshReviewsYTthank you so much for the quick response!

[@ssuperfly]

I have the XE wired, but will definetly check out the AX. Also, is that the Topping DX9 on the left?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

It is!

[@LegendLuna]

Dammit....I'm having to choose this or the Maya coming out tomorrow 😅 lol either way, great info Fresh, I will definitely have to give this a try soon.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I have a feeling either one will be an enjoyable buy!

[@maxbrown08]

Will you try the INZONE earphone?

[@CeceliPS3]

Even though this is the mouse for your hand, could you still recommend Thorn for other reasons? Or is this much better all around? Edit: oof... Nevermind. The build quality ain't looking too good. I'm going with Thorn.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

All depends on your personal preference and grip! Thorn could work well for many

[@samk1301]

When does that mousepad release! Whats the name of it? Will they be releasing the black/white as well as the colored pad in your previous video?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

They’re releasing the black and white first. It’s a rizz pad. Collab by nachocustomz and the whale

[@anglchnn]

shoutout to dr.stone wallpaper

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Aaayyyy!!!!

[@Fifty_Two_Hz]

If you had to choose between the XE and the AX as your daily driver?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Ax for sure. It just fits me like a glove 🥊

[@Fifty_Two_Hz]

@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks, keep up the great work!😁

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@Fifty_Two_Hz ty!

[@mikerzisu9508]

Are you going to review the lamzu Maya?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Yea

[@mikerzisu9508]

@@FreshReviewsYT what do you think of it based on the info released so far? I know there isn't a whole lot to go off of so far

[@jjnk.]

Any Mousepads you would recommend for this mouse?

[@zohebamin331]

I've been looking between this and the xe wireless . I use like a claw/palm hybrid would you still recommend it?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Ya

[@paul2609]

I stopped caring about weight when I realised that I still aim the best on my old 85g G305 from 5 years ago despite being heavier and equipped with an outdated sensor than all the other mice I own (Pulsar X2V2, X2H, Viper Mini SE, Viper Pro V2, DAV3, MZ1, Orochi, EC3-CW, GPX, etc), shape matters the most.

[@FeintMotion]

Since 3310 sensors have been indistinguishable from each other when it's a human doing the measuring.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@FeintMotionnot true, you can even tell the difference between a 3370 and a 3395, its not huge but its very obviously there.

[@SuperCrazysol]

@@WorldKeepsSpinninyou cant. It is placebo. The only difference come from motion sync which only come in handy in higher refresh rate

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@SuperCrazysol nope

[@NexusArtz]

Sorry if you mentioned it, but what is your hand size? And another question, did you have an embargo when you could publish this review?

[@aGremolin]

a bit over 21.5 he said on someone else's comment, also he said it many times on the channel

[@NexusArtz]

@@aGremolin kk thanks, that was the first video I saw from him

[@z90zx_]

How’s the sora 4k with you? I’m thinking about getting one coming from a GPX2 nothing wrong with it i just want to try a claw shaped mice, My current top 3 would be (GPX2, DAV3 Pro, RVMSE) 18.5x10cm aggressive claw grip

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I enjoy the sora 4k

[@xotjic]

looks like an ec2-a, my favorite mouse and the one ive felt the best on, now i have a superlight because my ec2-a broke, but it doesnt feel the same. Have you tried the ec2-a? if so how would you compare the 2? my hands are 19.5x9.5

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Similar size but quite different shape. If you like the ec2, chances are you’ll like the outset

[@impyr3x293]

where did u get this mousepad from? and whats that wooting case?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Keyboard is a polar 65. Pad is a rizz

[@kil1337]

wired version also the only wired mouse on my desk. because of reasons.

[@Jigsawh_Reviews]

letsss goooo hopefully QC gets fixed

[@daniellozobia5386]

The issue you describe regarding clicking from the corners of the triggers, do you notice that on the wired version as well?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

It was not as significant on the wired

[@marckoch6452]

Hey fresh im waiting on your All in one amp dac Video. When is it coming out

[@FreshReviewsYT]

This week!

[@marckoch6452]

@@FreshReviewsYT great news for me bad news for my wallet

[@AzNWontonz]

Is there click feel differences if you click really close to the scroll wheel (very right of left click and very left of right click)?

[@mustafakaanyolcu3286]

What is your top 5 mice ? (symmetrical)

[@炙尊]

If I buy MDR-Z1R for fps & music , did you recommend?

[@reconax]

I can't find any information regarding the switches / encoder. Tried my best but cant find anything, does anyone know which switches etc. did they use?

[@princekittipon6510]

Is ax vaxee and Xe still your top 3? Whats ur top 3 now

[@FreshReviewsYT]

X2h eS, beast x, and beast x max, gpx 2, and ulx small

[@princekittipon6510]

@@FreshReviewsYT THANK YOU fresh. what sens and dpi do u play apex

[@princekittipon6510]

why vaxee ax and xe fell off tho fresh super curious ?

[@DEM0NJEDI]

Bummer about the mouse 1 issue, but sounds like a great ergo👍🏻

[@paulkwok9523]

can you review in detail on he1000se?

[@kissobajslovski]

I have a lamzu - thorn, i kind of like it but i kind of miss some support on the palm betwen my thumb and index finger and feel the need to tense my hand to get a good grip wich is causing pain in my wrist and arm after a short period of fps (cs2) gaming. I'm a guy who grew up with the mx518 and liked the grip of G703 and Steelseries 310 rival but i think those are too big for me now. How is this compared to the Lamzu - Thorn?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I think it will feel better in the region you’re looking for. You may want to check out the dav3 or xlite size 3 though. Both great options

[@kissobajslovski]

@@FreshReviewsYT thanks for response! i did try the dav3 but it was too bulky for me. I'm really finding it hard to find a mouse that is good fit for me :( I'm performing great with the lamzu thorn but fingers go numb because I press my hand into it to control it. Mouses are catch 22 for me. All small ergo mices are too small and the big are to bulky. :/

[@lnbabz]

You gonna get the NachoCustomz treatment for this?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Thinking about it 😂

[@lnbabz]

@@FreshReviewsYT A bit concerning with the LMB. Hope you'll get a replacement sent by Vaxee. I've never had ANY BQ issues on any of my Vaxee mice (2 wired / 2 wireless)

[@c0ffeefather]

I will take a perfected 70g mouse over anything else

[@basvhout]

You said you can palm it, but what is your handsize? :)

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Length smidge over 21.5

[@basvhout]

Oh haha lol. You fingers aren't hanging of the edge?@@FreshReviewsYT

[@wr_vid5281]

You mention that translucent side buttons are same as XE. XE has opaque buttons, you meant NP01-s wireless I belive :)

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Sorry. Yes. I did.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Good catch. I misspoke

[@Юрий-м7т1к]

can you tell me if the size of my palm 19/9 is suitable for my palm grip?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Hard to say, but the dimensions could work

[@phanminhchau2002]

what skates would you recommend with this?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I like obsidians or corepads

[@yuiyue807]

Can I get the link for the senku wallpaper, Fresh?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

On steam wallpaper engine 💪🏽

[@yuiyue807]

@@FreshReviewsYT 🗿Ah.....Got it! Thanks brah~

[@opinn90]

Random question but which momiter arm do u use?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I’m swapping to Ergotron shortly

[@nhoffman0677]

So I have the same size hands as you. How does this feel in hand compared to like Xlite V2 Mini? I have that and like it, but it's sort of fatiguing to me after a little bit since it's smaller. Looks like the Vaxee is slightly taller and wider in the back, but is shorter in length.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Yes the mini becomes fatiguing for me as well

[@nhoffman0677]

​@@FreshReviewsYT So you're not experiencing that with the Vaxee?

[@notitle5846]

Is this mouse good for fingertip?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Depends entirely on your hand size. I can fingertip it

[@VeeHausen]

Legit can't get a damn Vaxee down here in Australia....such a shame!

[@TrolleLOL]

Its somewhat odd the amount of people saying the Thorn and Outset are similar shapes while you almost disliked one and goats the other 😅

[@FreshReviewsYT]

They’re similar in size. They’re nothing like one another in shape.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Other than the fact they’re both ergo of course. So anyone who claims the thorn is a clone or mirror of the outset is entirely wrong

[@Mal0717]

@@FreshReviewsYT I have 17 by 10 hands and claw with ring and pinky extended would you recommend the thorn or AX

[@hyclea9530]

What's ur hand measurement?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

A smidge over 21.5 in length

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

Torn between this or lamzu 😅

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Great mice !

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

any recommendations? my hands are 17.8 L 10 W@@FreshReviewsYT

[@8020Alive]

This or THORN? 🤔

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Both great. For me the shape just smacks too hard on the outset.

[@asspanhandlers]

talk about your own hand and dont even mention size

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I mention it in almost every video

[@asspanhandlers]

@@FreshReviewsYT I will just go and watch all your other videos then

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@asspanhandlers that’s not what I was saying. I was just saying it gets a bit redundant.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@asspanhandlers length is a smidge over 21.5

[@basvhout]

Maybe something about it in the description is a good way to solve the issue? :)@@FreshReviewsYT