Reasons why I ordered my dump trailer like this. Questions answered.

[@MFW1996]

In my opinion the hydraulic jacks are a no brainer on the dump trailers, being that the hydraulics are already there to tie into. Same thing with a hydraulic dovetail. If the hydraulics are already there might as well make life easier.

[@matta3888]

I would like the jack against front of trailer. I want clearance on jack height.

[@mattfarmer7010]

Best thing I ever did for my dump trailer was get rid of the trailer battery and run a wire from the trailer to the truck battery. I used welding lead twist connectors to disconnect when not using the dump trailer. Never have to worry about if the dump trailer battery is charged

[@mattywho8485]

Best thing I ever did for my dump trailer is put hydraulic remotes to the rear of the trucks to run the dump trailer, No more battery, no more slow hydraulic performance, dump the trailer from the cab and no one can borrow the trailer !

[@whskythrttl]

I thought the telescoping cylinder was the way to go until I saw the video where the third stage couldn't dump what looked like five ton of dirt. My scissor would of dumped what he had in it no problem, same size trailer too...nice set up!

[@andrewslagle1974]

I think the way you spected it was fine .Good luck with the new trailer it is a beauty!

[@troytreeguy]

When powering down gravity is with you and though the pump is spinning it’s not drawing the amps to lift a load like when it’s dumping. Sweet trailer 👍👍

[@keithhansen3963]

Gooseneck is a no brainer. Scissor tried and proven, plus hidden for damage. Gravity down is a big plus(you can prob add that yourself). I do like the deckover as the bed is huge and the sides fold down for loading. Hyd jacks are incredible. Great decisions, congrats

[@PrinceofPain1776]

Telescopic is far superior in capacity and it is not close. In exchange for superior mechanics and ~30% increased lift capacity, you probably lose 3-5% lift time. I take that trade all day, telescopic over scissor.

[@diamond_industries]

Dually swap is awesome!!!!!!!!!! You saved the day, been waiting for something cool to get posted.

[@johnmattu7262]

And the GN is way easier on your tow rig. I approve of this dump, not that it means a dump to you, LOL but I would prefer the tele over the scissor because of capacity and scissors are hard on themselves, lots of stress there. I do understand what you mean about interference though, Diamond C needs to go to a full fledged dump truck jack with 4-5 scopes and a dog box set up.

[@TheMinecraftguy65]

I ordered mine in March, didn't get it until September! So you aren't kidding about the time it takes to get these things.

[@delprice3007]

Got a 14' deckover dump trailer which works for hauling hay, would be great also to have the lower deck height though like yours, if there was a feature to be able to haul 8' wide cargo...

[@krislilly8916]

Good looking trailer when I go to order one I'll probably get one just like it and wow what a difference going to gooseneck

[@stevengullison5123]

Good evening, I would say, you are very talented and a worker for the equipment i see around. Thank you for taking the time to video from Steve st.Stephen N.B Canada

[@flyerfan5350]

No need to explain to the haters, guys can like their toys however they want.

[@TheMr9fingers]

You obviously have done your home work and if it works for you great thats what matters as for the batteries one could always set up a portable solar trickle charger for them around your yard. I have 2 questions are the rims steel or aluminum ? The other is is there stake pocket holes on the top of the sides if one wanted to put extensions on for hauling light material

[@VBELTandSON]

Steal rims and yup steak pockets

[@matta3888]

I like your new trailer. I wish our lawn mower trailer was 18ft long. It is 16ft long. I would like a tilt trailer; but they are a pretty penny.

[@jerrywilder9403]

Love those hyd. Jacks on heavier trailers and on loaded trailers 👍

[@tractorboy31]

My friend got a 14k dump trl. She doesnt like to pull it though. She said if i need something hauled i got you and my brother. Ive had estimated 13k gross trl and i know my 9t wieghs 13k hauling my tractor and her trl single vs my duals felt very light but i know 1 spindle has had a bearing failure and has been welded plus trl had axles hooked to when trk was stuck because spring hangers are messes up slightly so im sure it tracks slightly off. I like my duals for tire service as they are e load rated vs needing a commercial type tire to go with singles. My trl has only seen maybe 3000 miles max in 10yrs as its for personal use. Like to get new 10k axles to replace the old 9k axles. Gravity down is big since ive seen people jump their dump trls since i wouldnt want to dump an unhooked trl so at least you can get it down. However if i had a dump trl i would wire battery cables to bed and wire trl so it can run off trk vs solely on battery as im sure i would battle dead battery a lot

[@brianherron5400]

Nice trailer, it's yours and not there's so don't worry about what they think. Dually swap looks good 👍.

[@TheMr9fingers]

Oh and bumper pulls are okay for light use but for what you do and the fact that most if not all your trucks are goose neck ready i would have gone the same way way better load transfer any day of the week with a gooseneck

[@SS-hz3rz]

I love all your content always on point ur a smart man! There’s a lot of us that wish we had what u got at ur age, it don’t matter if ur dad helped you, you your self put all your knowledge into the business and your doing great 👍🏼 it’s awesome to see you daily doing videos keep it up ur awesome!

[@knowltek]

Cam trailer the company has. Twin telescopic cycliners..all under.. lot stronger n lighter then a sizzers…there re charge at 40; amps or plug m in too..

[@gerardkeohane740]

Brilliant looking trailer.

[@plantednanolife7051]

Beautiful trailer. Looking at a 16’ galv gooseneck w/ a 16k payload.

[@geraldcardwell9972]

Diamond C Dealer in Pasco Washington has a good selection of trailers in stocks

[@20MATTLEES20]

Have you thought about wiring the trailer batteries up to your truck truck batteries. Then you could leave the truck running when dumping and have no battery issues

[@ellerybice3787]

Gooseneck trailers also are less likely to be temperamental on slick roads, rather empty or loaded.

[@THETATERGUNSHOOTER]

I run 16ft telescopic diamond c. Overloaded 7 ton in a 14k, on record it lifted all three stages just fine.

[@VBELTandSON]

Send me a video next time

[@THETATERGUNSHOOTER]

@@VBELTandSON not to mislead it was 7 ton in 14k not over by 7 ton. Don’t plan to overload anytime soon! good content btw 👌

[@lnc23]

@@THETATERGUNSHOOTER around how much did that come out costing? Would like to get a ball figure. That way I can get an Idea. I have a 6x12 and 7x14 both dual pumps. But want a setup like yours.

[@THETATERGUNSHOOTER]

@@lnc23 got it at a great deal. Original buyer at dealer backed out and sold it at cost. Ran $13k 16ft hydraulic jack 2ft sides board brackets hd ramps rear stabilizers fork holder 14 ply tires 7k drop axles demco coupler 10 gauge steel 12” on center cross members. Best trailers on the market

[@lnc23]

@@THETATERGUNSHOOTER dang thats a good deal right there. Sounds to good to back out of that price in todays prices. With all those upgrades. Awesome thanks for replying! 👍🏼👊🏼

[@gtr1952]

I don't think you mentioned getting in/out of those tight little roads w/equipment/logs and the ability to jack knife the 5th wheel to do it. IMHO even on soft ground, the 5th wheel will pull better/harder than dead weight hanging off the bumper. Besides, by now, you know what's going to work best for you anyway!! You don't have to listen to ID10T's. JMHO, 8) --gary 🚉

[@richardharvey8939]

Great trailer with multiple uses. Much better for your uses. Falls in between others and may make difference in getting in and out some jobs.,👍👍

[@denistaramasso9724]

It money. Gooseneck trailer is the best. You can get in and out of more places because of your turning radius. Bumper pull can't turn as sharp when backing . Good luck 👍 on your new venture.

[@thomasyerbey337]

Like the new equipment Sam 🇺🇲

[@dominick253]

I hear ya. I know a guy (C1 specialized) 98,000lbs... Empty. Cargo capacity, 160,000. Still adds up.

[@loud_24v]

I would not do a dual wheel for a dump trailer just depending because you could get the same gvwr because some Duallys have a 20k and you can get that in super singles and it’s less tires. But with super singles you can get a low-pro which if you add sides you can load higher. With Duallys you can only get a deck over

[@rockingkvideos3160]

Another informative product review. Your videos are the best on you tube, keep up the great work 100K is on the way💪🏻, Thanks for sharing Sam 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

[@jayg479]

All the OGes of the channel are shaking their heads but understanding why. . .

[@madtater5948]

that's a badass trailer you got there and as long as you like it that's all it counts

[@CMLandClearing]

Telescopic lifts are not available for dump trailers longer than 16ft last I checked, FYI

[@chrislawley1334]

Need to re check they have then on 24ft trailers now

[@CMLandClearing]

The LPD that is in this video is not available with the telescopic hoist.

[@jakobwalter8783]

When’s that video on the dually swap coming ? Looked great from what I can see

[@VBELTandSON]

Saturday 🤟🏻🤟🏻

[@erichuntII]

Hey Sam quick thought do your trucks charge your trailers batteries the the 7 pin

[@mikestrucks]

Last one ! That’s a really nice trailer Sam 👍🏻💪🏻

[@damianpascual97]

That’s a nice trailer I just wish it wasn’t so damn expensive I have been looking for a 7x14 pull behind with the telescopic lift but can’t find it anywhere

[@lukeshurtleff9770]

People are sold on telescopic for the wrong reasons. IMHO the only trailer that really should have one is a 20' deck over dump. It has the suspension to haul the load and enough deck space in front of the axles to need the leverage the telescopic provides. People want to dump a load they should never be towing on the road. I run scissor hoist on both my DC dumps hauling at there capacity and they have always dumped no problem. What is for sure is the telescopic is considerably slower. If your running several loads a day this can affect production.

[@nickthrane4940]

Telescopic are the most efficient but if it works it works.

[@shaneolsen9394]

If you could only have 1 trailer to do it all, how would you build it out?

[@nickthrane4940]

Definitely gotta be mindful of trailer empty weight. Would be nice if those were spread axles. Seems like manufacturers get little squirrelly on the axles to hydraulic point but usually they still can dump almost anything unless you blow your tires out 🤣✌ nice unit nonetheless 👍

[@billbill7873]

Are you still thinking about buying the other truck that you Went to look at the one with the low mileage That will be a good back up truck🛻

[@kenmcclure5623]

Sam, great video and thank you for doing this review

[@georgeenriquez612]

That’s such a sick dump trailer.

[@jdljdl16]

How much for that setup? How do you like the B&w puck ball? I’m thinking of getting that for my truck.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Great video

[@3535gt]

Can you give me the info on the rear axle shims. Maybe that’s what I’m missing with mine. Have aluminum one piece on my dually swap. Same year. Didn’t do the shims due to not knowing about them.

[@VBELTandSON]

There will be a full video with details

[@charlieronk7909]

Sure like to know why dump trailers just can’t seem to work like a dump truck as for lifting loads? Telescopic or scissor lift the both seem to have limited. And I mean this as a question to Diamond C as I look to order a new trailer, not as a negative remark.

[@mattschulz558]

Simple. Cylinder size. I have a tandem axel dump truck and the box isn't that much bigger than the one on this dump trailer. It's rated to dump 25 000 lbs and the cylinder diameter is double or triple as big.

[@jamesmatthewbryan1902]

Why don’t you put the winch plugs on your truck and trailer. Texas pride does it and Iv never ran out of power and never have plugged it up to a outlet.

[@VBELTandSON]

I definitely need to

[@jimt125]

Great setup sam , are we gonna see more on 04 dually swap? Like your other channel👍🇺🇸

[@bryansteen2219]

I like dual rams better than scissor

[@sprucegoose1016]

Rly happy for you bud 😎

[@christopherlively6241]

I got a Big-Tex 25DU-20. Best purchase I have made for my business so far. Hey Sam, maybe you could elaborate on the pro rating thing on the trailer. My trailer has a sticker on it for GVWR of 25,900. But could I go to 30K? You are absolutely right about that deck level in the duelly wheels, it’s tall. Really nice trailer man.

[@mungfam]

I’m curious too on the 25% over the axles 20k rate to 25,000 lbs.?

[@j.walterstrucking3893]

I’m a little curious on that as well. I can elaborate on what I think he is saying based on my knowledge. Most trailers, specifically the smaller ones (10k, 14k) are given a GVWR equal to the GAWR, so if you have two 7k axles the trailer is given a gross axle weight rating of 14k and is also given a GVWR of 14k. Some trailers, usually the bigger ones, are sometimes given a higher Gvwr than the axle weight ratings, typically 10-15% which is the weight transferred to the tow vehicle via tongue weight. This does NOT increase your axle weight rating, you can still only have the GAWR on the axles, the other weight is there, but not on the axles but rather transfered to the tow vehicle. I think this is more geared as a way to show the less knowledgeable about how much weight you COULD put on the trailer IF loaded correctly and also a max weight you could use as tongue weight. As an example: say you have a trailer rated for 14k. Empty weight of the trailer is 5k (so in theory, you would assume you could put 9k of weight on the trailer) when you go across a scale your axle weight empty is 4K (1k is tounge weight on the truck) so now in theory you could put 10k on the trailer as you really only have 4K weight on the axles which are rated for 14k. You can actually load more than that. Let’s say you load a piece of equipment on the trailer that weighs 12k pounds, if you place it directly over the axles your axle weight will probably be around 16k putting you over weight, but if you load it correctly you could have 14k on the axles and the rest tounge weight on the truck. So overall you have a 14k rated trailer that weighs 5k empty and you put a 12k machine on it so now you have a total weight of 17k between the trailer weight and machine weight. Properly loaded you could have 14k on trailer axles and the other 3k on the tongue which adds to the trucks weight. This is perfectly legal and safe to do under the correct circumstances, the trailer needs to be built strong enough to handle that kind of tongue weight, and you truck needs to be able to handle the weight (and stay within the trucks axle and gross weight ratings) as well as all the equipment in between ( gooseneck hitch capacity, ball capacity, etc) When buying a trailer NEW most trailer manufactures will de-rate them for a small fee and send you a new vin plate. I’m not sure why you rate the gvwr on a trailer higher than the GAWR, as you could not exceed the axle weight ratings period, perhaps the trailer manufactures are placing a gvwr to limit liability on guys trying to put WAY too much tounge weight on a trailer not meant to handle it - like trying to put 4K tongue weight on a 14k bumper pull that only has 6” c-channel tounge (I’ve seen that happen...it bends the tounge lol)

[@TeamRosserDad]

Nice set up!

[@lyndonhamby7432]

First. Sup Sam. Love that dump ☝️👍👍👊

[@snyderkurtis]

Wheres the dually swap video

[@winrowfarms5494]

Hey Sam love the content keep up the good videos

[@johnsipes4422]

What does pro rated mean? Is it like the absolute limit of it? I don’t know much about this stuff I’m just curious

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Gooseneck all the way brother 💪🏻

[@matt72991]

do you ever have an issue with your trucks bucking with a gooseneck dump trailer?? im having this issue with my 97 dodge and a 7x14 gooseneck dump trailer.

[@williamuskoski1385]

Where is your hitch located in relation to your rear axle

[@matt72991]

@@williamuskoski1385 couple inches forward of the rear axle. I have the 2 rail setup with a Reese gooseneck plate. I'd say it's 2 to 4 inches forward

[@michaelgould6392]

Check to make sure all your frame brackets have 2 bolts. I've seen them pivot and cause the rails to slide back and forth if there's only one bolt per bracket

[@matt72991]

@@michaelgould6392 I will check that. But I'm pretty sure they are all there

[@oldreliable303]

Why not 3 7k axles instead of 2 10k axles, becuse tires, and parts are much easyer to find, in my airy most hardware stores, or farm supply stores carry wheels, tires, hubs, and axles up to 7k. If you lost a tire or hub, and chained it up to keep going, you would now have 5 left instead of 3. And the same tickit for limping that down the road. Ive had both setups, the cost to buy it, and mantain it is about the same.

[@VBELTandSON]

Triples are hard on everything. And extra weight

[@oldreliable303]

@@VBELTandSON you make a good point, i just expeat my 65 f600 to ride like crap, and even with my trailer being a bumper pull. The truck rides the same with or with out it.

[@DaybreakAngus]

Tires peel off on loaded turns.

[@oldreliable303]

@@DaybreakAngus ive never had that happen.

[@jaredking882]

I want to know how you got it trailer ordered. Diamond c website won't let me order one like you have and my local dealer also says it's not a possibility. I would like to find one exactly like you've ordered.

[@VBELTandSON]

Call David at the trailer store in winnummucca Nevada. He can get you what I have Thanks

[@jaredking882]

@@VBELTandSON thank you. I'll give him a call

[@randycook4364]

My truck charges the trailer battery when driving, no problem.

[@trentmunn9486]

Two 12’s or two 6’s in series and you will not have a battery problem.

[@zzzeus2]

Were did Sam go? How is the new guy?

[@rolandotorres2997]

Can you tell me what dealership you use to order your equipment wasn't sure if one time you say Utah or it working

[@VBELTandSON]

My tractors come from global machinery Sacramento My trucks come from Peterson ram in nampa Idaho My trailers come from The trailer store winnumucca nv

[@rolandotorres2997]

Thank you for responding and sharing the information I need a diamond c dump I will tell the dealership that you recommended me

[@VBELTandSON]

@@rolandotorres2997 appreciate it

[@clintonboyer1217]

Does the O80 fit in the bed?

[@VBELTandSON]

Nope. It’s to wide and probably to long

[@matthewmattix]

Nice dump trailer

[@tiptoplandsolutions1421]

NICE....

[@t12kacpergamer96]

Is your 04 2wd or 4x4?

[@VBELTandSON]

All of my trucks are 4x4.

[@shanes_bs2659]

Sam, did you only shave one side of your mustache?

[@tutekohe1361]

Tandem wheels have a much lower rolling resistance than dual wheels, especially on soft ground. Don’t believe me? Try towing tandem singles on the beach compared to duals.

[@SteveSRT]

I’ll never own another trailer without hydraulic jacks. Anything can fail, i’d rather have the super fast ease of use until it does.

[@VBELTandSON]

I like your thinking

[@Smiling_mike]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@stephenbrown571]

Bigger trailer you might as well buy a dump truck.

[@VBELTandSON]

That’s true

[@AaronCPalmer]

Now that you got it, you'll suddenly need it less ! :D

[@mowerjeff8990]

I tell the people that want to tell me what I should buy. I payed for it,it’s the way I wanted it. So go buy your own shit the way you wanted me to get.

[@JosieLeigh]

Full shave lol

[@robertjhilliard2403]

Im not convinced that a pickup truck can handle 30k gvw....ill bet your load pushes you around some...

[@VBELTandSON]

Nope handles it good

[@niio111]

My F350 has gcwr 30,500lb and it handles fine, with a gooseneck.